10.26.2021 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Morning Session)

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i wonder andy i don't want to see that one good morning i would like to call to order the pasco county border county commission 10 o'clock am meeting of october 26 2021 at this time please silence all electronic devices and mutual microphones please rise for the invocation and pledge oh merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts the amen of the united states of america and to the republic for which it is district two commissioner moore here district three commissioner starkey here district four commissioner fitzpatrick here district five commissioner mariano here district one chairman oakley here now is the time for public comment citizens are given opportunity to comment on any item coming before the board and items to be placed on future board agenda or other business under their preview today's public comment will be handled as follows first we will take public comment from those that are here in person then we will take public comment from those who have pre-registered on webex link and are currently on queue this format does not waive the request for when you address the board comments are not directed toward any commissioner or team member but are directed toward the issues this provides mutual respect between the board and members and the public for webex and in-person participants after you state your name and address for the clerk the timer will start and after two minutes of date will sound letting you know that you have one minute remaining after your time is up two beeps will sound indicating that your three minutes are up and we it is time for you to end your comments webex participants will be disconnected automatically when their time is up the following people have signed up to speak in person clerk mr chair i have six individuals that are signed up in person and i will call the first three so that you know i'll be the order drew is it pastor troy peterson and pastor danny fields [Music] good morning thank you i'm here again in place of you i'm asking again to please addre i'm

sorry andrew buchetti 6820 nara street newporichi flora 34653 i'm asking again to please address the septic problem the florida department of health has come out again blaming the landlord which may very well affect rent for not only myself but this may affect others in the future we the people are already dealing with enough stress as it is i recommend try helping the people it was also mentioned that the street drainage county problem is already not working correctly it had already been redone once not only the drainage was just recently put in but the street had been repaved recently so money not spent qa was not done i guess that tax spending tax dollars is foolishly wise i still have not received any kind of communication of any kind of septic policy to be put in place at all um and you're welcome for serving my country and god bless the usa i use my time thank you good morning pastor troy peterson i pastor at 8114 leo kid in port richey once again i'm here addressing uh praying in jesus name for the invocation i've been praying about this for quite some time two weeks ago in dade city i felt the lord was telling me just to be still and to pray but today i have a couple other pastors with me and i just want to share a couple of scriptures first one in john 16 jesus christ declared moses surely i say to you whatever you ask in my father father in my name the name of jesus christ he will give you until now you have asked nothing in my name that is a bold statement from jesus christ and what i'm seeing from right now this point forward i don't see any prayer or invocation with jesus name in it that's why i'm here and so what i'm asking is that the board would approve me and a group of pastors that i would choose if i could not make it i would appoint somebody to come in that i know is gonna pray according to the word of god and then jesus says ask and you will receive that your joy may be full in first timothy chapter 2 we see the apostle paul writing to his student timothy he says therefore i exhort i exhort first of all that supplications what's a supplication a supplication is a specific heartfelt petition or needs we have a lot of them here in pasco county amen prayers and intercessions giving thanks be made for all men for kings and all who are in authority that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth jesus is the way truth and life the only way to the father is through the son jesus

christ and so that's that truth that i'm here to share with you today but in verse 5 it says for there is one god and one mediator between god and men the man jesus christ who gave himself as a ransom for all and then in matthew 6 and when you pray do not use vain repetitions as the healing heathen do for they think that they be heard by their many words when you look at them vain repetitions is exactly what your invocation at the beginning of the commissioner's meeting is doing thank you for your time thank you mr chairman uh yes sir can i address the speaker you may um so in september of 2003 the former county attorney was asked the question about invocations that's what led to what the clerk reads every every morning the federal law with regard to praying in county commission meetings has not changed and in fact one of your fellow counties on the east coast has taken the case up in 2019 the 11th circuit affirmed all the case law that basically says you can't have secular prayer they the brevard county commission was doing very something very similar to what the pastor suggests where they had had pastors preachers rabbis on call to come in and pray before the county commission it was found to violate federal law so my my advice to the board would be to continue the practice that that we've adopted okay why we're in this correct situation you can't talk from the audience thank you sir yes sir am i ready okay my name is danny fields i live here in pasco county my address is 7430 gimbal lane newport richie florida zip fair is 34653 i'm here about the same thing pastor troy is because i'm pastor and i'm also with somebody cares pasco county now troy he read a bunch of scriptures here so i'm going to focus on what was said when we opened up here we talked about the creator well that creator and then we go into the pledge of allegiance which in god we trust well that that god is jesus christ and so i'm here to just thank you i know these are a lot of decisions i would like to see the faith-based church and government work together in this community and i know that is your heart to establish all the programs and things that we need to do together in unity we might not agree on everything but we could come together and figure out by the word of god and by the council of god how to do this so i will quote a scripture and it says in john 14 6 and troy closed it out with this saying

jesus is the way the truth and the life now let me establish government from god's point like you hear some of the people back here saying it says in the book of acts starting in the 46th there but if you back up it talked about moses was given a law and and our laws was founded as a christian nation on the government of god as christian nation okay then it talked about joshua there how joshua then was to go and govern the nations that was doing things that wasn't by god's government laws and so the main scripture there for me it says that what house will you build for me saith the lord and in that house is the individual that's a as a home as a husband and wife that is children and that is our government so i'm not here to beat up on you i love you i respect you i don't agree with all your policies all the time but i'm here to work with you and i'd like to see the name of jesus be lifted up like it was founded on and thank you for your service and your time bless you everyone in jesus name thank you for your kindness the next three that are signed up um is um i'm probably not going to pronounce this correctly dale via giola sorry probably did not do a good job on that thank you and then natalie cronin followed by gail schwedberg so could i give one of these papers to i don't have enough but i would like you to follow along to you so that you can see what i'm talking about move to receive and file thank you got emotional receiving file all those in favor say aye aye aye you can hand them to ma'am right over here thank you ma'am and could you state your name and address for the record first and then just pull in pull the mic down there you go i live at 92 30 start trail into port richie and i'm here very nervously because i saw on my computer yesterday something about a new portrait woman killed crossing little road i have a quadriplegic daughter she happens to live on embassy boulevard she's on the other side of back with barrington away from winn-dixie when she comes out her driveway and out of the road with her wheelchair she has to go across little road or no sorry embassy boulevard to get down to little road or anything along the way she has to cross in front of barrington she has to go in front of the park richie boulevard whatever both going in and going out the bus stop is there as well and also there's a

entrance exit over there by winn-dixie and another one by the bank she cannot go along [Music] the embassy boulevard on her side of the road because there is a huge tree right on this sidewalk and it's kind of lifted in like this and if she tries to get over it she's going to land in the street so i have pursued because she was hit by a car already on that same area i have pursued the traffic people to help me fix some of those sidewalks and i was told that from little road to moorhead is only the sidewalks that the county is responsible for everybody that owns land along the way is responsible to fix the sidewalk there's no way they're going to do it for one person so she's got to go out as a matter of fact she doesn't have to go out she only goes out when she's with somebody because she's scared to death of being hit again the guy had a blown out tire she was thrown from her chair and i whatever so anyway i'm he excuse me i'm here to ask that you help me get the sidewalks fixed so she can at least get from her home to be independent which we've worked for for so many years i thank you very much all right thank you for your comments yes ma'am are you gonna someone gonna talk to her where where is the site where was this location of the like right right between the christine and my district yeah so you guys got to look into it colleen would you reach over okay good mike's getting her information now thank you name and address for the clerk hello yes my name is natalie cronin i live in 511 amulet drive in newport richie so hello everybody um i'm here today about well there was an incident that came to my attention it's called this company it's called paul corporation and they have decided that they want to mandate this vaccine well i know that i'm writing the governor i know that i am writing our representatives i know that they're calling a special session on just that issue however i also know that people that are in this company they are also doing these things but are they if company if people that are working a company that is doing this some of them will be coming to you and contacting you about these issues what i would ask is that on top of us also writing the governor writing our representatives calling them etc i would also ask that you all as elected officials also do that it might have some extra weight and if you came out you know being seen to fight for our

jobs we're more inclined to fight for yours thank you thank you for your comments good morning my name is gayle swedberg 4917 largo terrace new port richie um i'm not going to bring up any of the issues with green key per se because we've all been over that several times here a couple things that i do want to mention are at this point now about eight months ago and as recently as a week ago we have had water water breaks in the pipes public works has come out and repaired them put new valves in not valves put new covers on them the one i'm speaking of on largo terrace and the other one just within the week over on edgewater so what's happening now are the pipes are and we know this the pipes are all starting to deteriorate and we're going to start and get more and more of those breakage um another thing i wanted to mention and i usually talk when i i'm based on facts so it's something that i see or i learn about okay so this is coming from a second party a reliable party but there was mention of the reclaimed water from the water plant on sea forest and main street dumping reclaimed water into the i guess it would be the bayou i heard this about a week ago as we were passing out flyers about the upcoming november 2nd meeting it was from somebody very reliable but again it wasn't told to me so i think that's something of concern you know if you're dumping all that reclaimed water first of all why would you be doing that is is that something that they do and if not it should be looked into so those are the only two topics i wanted to bring up i know that public works has been out and you know taking pictures and checking the areas and everything so we're hopeful that we're going to be getting on the same page as far as drainage repairs and everything that we need done in the green key area okay thank you all right thank you very much my assistant colleen let her get her information and i'll set up a meeting with you i'll kind of give you a little more information what's going on uh she's coming up right there okay thank you okay mr chair that's all i have that's signed up is there anyone else that would like to speak at public comment this morning that has not signed up i thought i saw a lady before there you go name and address for the clerk julia bartonic 2645 meadowwood drive new purity florida three four six five five and i would just like to um speak to i'm continuing to keep the morning prayer as stands um due to the fact that there are

six thousand people a month moving to pasco county and our diversity is growing in all respects including with many religions that already exist in this county that are going to continue to grow within the christian communities the jewish communities the buddhist communities muslim communities there are many diverse branches and sects and denominations within those communities of faith and temple so i think we need to keep it simple and keep it as stands to avoid litigiousness thank you okay name and address brian paris 7401 allison street poor richie florida 34668 actually disagree with that just because people move here we shouldn't bend our values to anybody else if people want to come here we should be able to speak the way we want and how we want you're coming to our town we're not going to bend our knees to anybody this is this town is you want to come here it's just like our country you come to our values our judeo-christian values our constitutional republic and our family american values we've already had our family house has been destroyed by allowing different ideologies to come in here we cannot allow it if we we should put jesus christ in it you know i mean i'm not perfect by any means and i'm not here to judge by any means but you know we are just a good american values if people want to come here you know come our way it's just like the american language english you know we that's just the way it is you go to other countries you have to to go to their values you know i'm not going to go to mexico and live and say hey you guys got to speak english now because of me no we're in america we have english our judeo-christian values you know god is the creator however people want to pray they can use it and that's all thanks all right thank you for your comments anyone else that have not signed up wish to speak at this time anyone on webex we do have one individual on webex two had registered but only one has connected we have nancy gray is in the queue okay miss grave you would like to state your name and address for the record and then you may proceed yes my name is nancy gray and i live in 8502. newport richie three four six five four i'll come before you again regarding dearly i've emailed your offices and spoken to you at previous meetings regarding this wells fargo at little ridge is permitted to drain their roof and driveway into the lake as their grandfather in the water washes down the hill eroding it and flushing dirt near storm water into the lake lake overflows onto our properties on adonis and grave the water came up over 140 feet into our yards in august and it's still up it's gonna take

six to nine months for it to go down on its own just in time for the vicious cycle to start all over again as i emailed you yesterday tax records show the lake belongs to pasco county i've been told by an assistant that pasco will never maintain this lake pasco requested and received an emergency permit from swift mud to completely grains roost in august and pumped for the month keeping the water off their properties it never came out of the lakes but pascal won't pump its own lake and remove the water off the resident's properties engrave an adonis the florida administrative code prohibits water runoff from being directed onto another's property why is this water on our property swift mud contacted public works by email saying that i requested in the lake and attached the 2019 emergency permit why won't the county your lake we've lost thousands of dollars in plants trees and crops since august and none of the residents have had use of their backyards but we're paying property taxes on this land why are we being penalized who is running the storm water and public works departments is it public infrastructure our county administrator or the county commissioners it appears as though they're accountable no one please hold these departments accountable and get this questing a county pump down the lake and off of our properties clean out the lake and come up with a permanent solution to the problem add the curbs at wells fargo as miss fitzpatrick suggested come up with another idea swift mud has already determined that the county can get a permit to run the runoff into the drains at rich and little and over the county retention plan it'll prevent the runoff from being dumped into deer lake and deer lake flooding its residents please give us our properties back we're looking forward to resolution i thank you for your time and i invite any questions i'd love to answer them but no one will contact me you have any questions don't is that all your comments or she's been cut off yes she has not been cut off oh no okay all right thank you yes sir okay i do have one person that car broke down that will speak but i'm gonna allow her to speak uh at 1 30 when we come back after lunch all right so this time we close the public comment at this time and we move on to our resolution madam clerk is anyone here for friends of library reek please stand and come to the podium mr chair you want me to go ahead and proceed yes okay resolution number 22-005 a resolution by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida proclaiming the week of october 17th through october 23rd 2021 as

national friends of the library week in pasco county whereas the friends of the pasco county library system inc is a not-for-profit organization of citizens who share a passionate commitment to a strong public library system the branch specific friends group along with the county-wide friends strive to build a strong relationship between the pasco county library system and the community through volunteering fundraising and advocacy and whereas the continued support of the friends emphasizes the fact that our library system remains a cornerstone for the community it serves while providing opportunities for all all to engage in the joy of lifelong learning and to connect with the thoughts and ideas of others from ages past to present and razz the friends understand the critical importance of well-funded libraries and advocate to ensure that our library system gets the resources it needs to provide a wide variety of services to all ages including story time summer reading arts culture and technology programs and raz roz fenton president of the friends of the pasco county library inc along with all the friends work persistently to show their support for the library system and are vital members of our community the friends gift of their time and commitment to the library system sets an example for all in how volunteerism leads to positive civic engagement and betterment of our community and whereas the friends of the pasco county library system are always welcoming new members those wishing to become a friend of the library may contact their local library branch to learn more now therefore be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida that said board hereby proclaims october 17th through october 23 2021 as national friends of the library week in pasco county done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 26th day of october 2021. second got a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye aye motion pass five 5-0 welcome thank you thank you for all that you do we we appreciate all the work you do and it it does mean something so thank you for your support of our library i think it's one of those miss benson could you come to the mic thank you thank you for your thank you for your support of our library system uh it means a great deal to us especially with the expansions that we're experiencing and i want to thank the friends because they are an invaluable asset to the county they provide so many wonderful programs and supplies and experiences to our citizens it's just beyond belief we couldn't function without them they are marvelous thank you to the friends yeah the border county commission certainly uh appreciates all that you do thank you and uh i've given you each a brochure that kind of gives you an oversight of all the things we do

and in that is a bumper sticker that says i love my pasco library so please put it on your bumper i have one on my card on my car and people actually stop me and ask me about the library so i encourage you to do that thank you so much for your support thank you mr moore yeah so before we go down and we have a big group here today so i'm thinking we might need to do the the tears today yeah right um but we do appreciate everything the friends of the library do and um i've got to know so many of you throughout the years and it's great to see you out in the community and great to see your support and libraries like you said just aren't for books anymore if you look at all we have within our libraries the maker spaces the robotics the sewing woodworking and just the ability to go in there as a entrepreneur and learn and work on the computers and start a business i mean that's what it's all about i spent so much time in the libraries when i was a child myself riding my bike to the libraries that's where we went and that's where we gathered and um the new spaces that you know your team and kathy and her team have put together or something that's going to be you know obviously um valuable for years and years to come so we're very appreciative of each every one of you so thank you so much thank you commissioner if we could come oh i'm sorry commissioner i just wanted to say my my staff got me a library card for my birthday [Laughter] i i wanted to add we have a recording studio oh you have one those now too really professional with an engineer so if anybody is interested in promoting a program well i think commissioner oakley in his new country album he can there we go that would be wonderful it's called studio h and it's fabulous yeah that's his new country music production company mr mariano thank you and i just want to thank the friends as well um you know way back when we had all the cuts that were going on and it was at centennial library was at stake and what was going to happen compared to that moment to where we are now is a testament to your dedication and uh definitely made this county a better place for it so thank you all yeah good thank you what do you want to guys want to come down and or i don't know what to do one other thing we got to thank the citizens of pasco county absolutely because the bond issue that we got that does a lot of the renovation of the buildings and the new buildings we got coming for the library system yes they voted that in yes i mean so they're willing also supporters of the library so it's very good that we have those you know you need to visit the new starkey uh branch the cultural very nice beautiful it's beautiful here if we do it this way we can probably put

everybody in maybe maybe not everybody we can all load everybody up here too don't be afraid come on don't be afraid to be toward the center you're okay this is why andy warns you about the wide angle yeah can you hold this with me there you go one two three everybody is in that's amazing perfect thank you now look at andy and david we're all three feet wide from the white legs [Laughter] anybody else out there thank you so much thank you great to see you all thank you guys thank you they were just going with this this is me trying to do here it doesn't turn out [Music] she's going to fix it okay thank you mr chairman all right uh now is the time for the consent agenda and i have a pull sheet with item c2 withdrawal c4 pull and revise c30 withdrawal and c32 withdrawal so i entertain a motion for the rest of the items second i got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye all right all opposed right sign motion pass five zero on all the consent items now we go back to the pull sheet and c4 c4 is a county attorney item um it's a approve additional purchase authority for barnett and chistoli pllc the previous memorandums of funding authorization by the board were not added uploaded into civic clerk um there were three of them and they've been distributed to you this morning roof approval [Applause] okay got a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass 5-0 that ends the consent items agenda we now move on to regular items [Applause] and i think we um i think we move on to item 54 i believe or 54. yep roger green 7853 gun highway tampa florida 33626 yes sir welcome good morning good morning good morning good morning mr chairman and commissioners i just want to say that i am so happy to be here this morning uh it is so good to see see you all i have an item here that i'd like to present to the commissioners move to receive and file second i got a motion in a second receive and file all those in paper say aye aye aye aye sign motion pass 5-0 oh god that's a scary thing okay okay this is terrifying

and then you open up there's a skull in there well i guess it's good for halloween [Music] all right well good morning to everyone uh it is certainly a pleasure to be here again my name is roderick green and i am the director of first many of you know what first is some of you that do not it's the forensic institute for research security and tactics and we are part of the sheriff's association of the sheriff's office and uh this morning what i like to do is just give a brief of what some of the wonderful um operations that are are taking place right here in our own backyard and just some of the wonderful endeavors that we are privileged to be a part of just to give an update so we have a few slides that we're going to show we're not going to go into all the details of it but i'm going to try to give you just a little bit uh diagnostic understanding of what it is that we're doing and some of the wonderful things that are taking place here so what what are we doing our mission our mission statement is creating safer communities by transforming public safety and this is being done through research uh through education and innovation uh there's a number of different things that there's a lot within that mission statement many of you that do not know and on our last slide we talk a little a little bit about this this project started off with the forensics body farm as many of you know we call it our forensics field we are privileged to have one of only eight forensics body farms in the entire nation that's active and it's right here in the county a part of that whole initiative we have some other disciplines that are tied to that we had a greater vision that was spearheaded obviously by our sheriff and our leadership and under that leadership there were some other disciplines that came out of that cyber security um intelligence um k-9 human uh which uh in under the intelligence umbrella um human trafficking and some other other areas uh leadership uh tactics uh and um you know then uh also our urban search and urban search and rescue rebel pile and we're gonna talk a little bit about that what does this mean and what has transpired to date uh we've had it's a collaboration just so you all understand it's a collaboration between academic practitioners and the private sector to develop a state-of-the-art research and development center so i'm here to give an account of those some of those endeavors some of those practitioner-based relationships and some of those programs that are already moving forward even without our buildings being completed at this time but we are pleased to to be able to have some of those programs taking place and moving forward um strong and

really leading the charge in some of these different areas so we're excited about that this um the map that you're looking at uh is the is the layout uh that uh we currently have for the for rent for up for first um as you see on the uh the furthest west side of that uh of that map you see where it says first that is our second body farm um that is uh just uh just under uh 10 acres there that we have and we have a partnership that we've created with florida gulf coast university florida international university the university of florida so we are privileged to have you know three three of the the top forensic anthropologists within the state that are assisting us with that program we have a donation program that that encompasses that a number of different research endeavors which is given us the opportunity to bring economic development to the area through partnerships of different companies so that is a strong push and we're excited about some of those some of those opportunities that are taking place and some of the things to come just in those different lanes and we'll talk a little bit more about that later just adjacent to that you'll see the usf body farm as you all know that um that relationship will be with usf um occupying that space will be ended at the end of 2022 at that time we would then take take over that that that plot of land and continue the expansion of the body farm which you see just adjacent to that our current buildings that we have we have two buildings that are just about completed and we're looking for those buildings to be completed by the end of this year our training building also our canine center of excellence so as you see just off the main road there um central avenue as soon as you come in we have what we call our canine center of excellence where we have a 25 a new 25 25 dog kennel we have a veterinary science building some wonderful wonderful partnerships that we've created through that with some of our top veterinary veterinary medicine scientists across the country and we've also have been working heavily with all of our military working dogs um and uh having some of those trainings to help us to determine and to figure out ways um what does it take to you know to to extend the longevity of the use of of canine working dogs and and some of the challenges that we have here with heat uh doing the research uh that supports uh those endeavors and then gives given us an opportunity uh to be able to create new and innovative opportunities

uh as it relates to technologies uh so that means the use of drones the the use of thermal uh imagery the use of uh heat sentry um different biometrics that allow for us to place those on the on the animals for those animals to do to be better taken care of so those are some of the things that are taking place right here in our own backyard and i say this um you know and i think sometimes we don't i want everybody to understand what we have here we are privileged to have there's there's only three fema level one urban search and urban search and rescue rubble piles here in in the state we have one of those on location i'm looking for my photo when i climbed all over that yeah pile of room yes and we have the body farm at the same location in addition to that we have a canine center of excellence in addition to that we also have the training building which will accommodate all of these disciplines uh with the partnerships that have been created um you know since our uh since um our infantry um in addition to that our intelligence building which gives us the opportunity to do different studies and to understand what is what's happening as it relates to human trafficking so we've spearheaded an initiative on on first we have with one of our partners st leo university um kathy pearson is here she's actually sits on the on the board uh with our mel green uh foundation uh in that great initiative and we're we're pleased to be uh driving that in in getting the information out education information and then the services that support survivors as well as making sure that people understand what is what actually is taking place in the human trafficking space first was responsible for leading the charge in creating the training for the state for all of law enforcement that was something that was directed we were chosen by our attorney general's office and we were pleased to have delivered that timely and was able to spearhead that training for all of law enforcement which is a mandatory training that all law enforcement has to take at least once a year it has now expanded in its second phase for for healthcare as well as to hotels and and different transit authorities so your uber drivers your truck drivers all of those now have access free of charge to be able to go on and look and take this training that basically gives them the information of what to do when you see these different items and it's happening right here uh in our backyard so we're pleased to be able to be a part of that that initiative so all some of that is

is is taking place right there uh we'll be driven out of that new building which is scheduled to be completed um the summer of 2020-22 which is our ilp building um in addition to that uh and i know that uh we talked about the urban search and rescue uh rubble pile the urban serpent uh search and rescue robo pile has been completed now for about uh almost almost a year now and some of the the the great uh the things that we've benefited from we've been able to train the canines that uh are part of our task force our fema task force uh that were instrumental in being a part of the surf side collapse as well as other other different um you know catastrophes that have taken place across this nation louisiana through georgia and north northern florida so all of those fema dogs uh at some point uh over the course of the last year have been right here in in the county training at our facility so uh we now have our own uh canine that is a part of the task force uh they were they were successful in completing and establishing themselves along with the handler as as a certified fema um task force member now so we're they're now participating in that and we're leading the charge in that direction with uh with our canine facilities all of this that we're talking about i'm going to go to the next slide all of this that we're talking about the goal is for us to look at gaps what are the gaps that exist within these different disciplines within these different areas of law enforcement and first responders so when we talk about industry changes things that are happening in terms of innovation um some of the you know for example we we are scheduled to have our first unmanned public safety unmanned systems symposium which is scheduled for the spring of 2022. what that entails is hundreds hundreds of uh of different um companies drones and unmanned systems that will come right here to this area uh show show all of the different innovative techniques and some of the different innovations that are happening and the industries that they're impacting so many of you know that uh there's there's an expansion that's exploding uh in real estate uh with the use of drones there's an uh further expansion that's taking place in other industries uh that those trainings that are necessary and even putting together the ces that support a more productive uh and accountable model is is is happening right here so we're pleased to be able to spearhead some of that with our facilities again we only have two buildings that are scheduled to be completed by the end of this year again that's our training building and then our canine center of excellence and the other buildings are

scheduled to start start the full build uh which will take place after january uh which is encompasses our forensic science building uh where with what will we will be working in partnership with florida gulf coast university of florida international university the university of florida and then other university partners that are interested in research so we're excited about that again here are the core disciplines that we're focusing on uh forensic science tactics and human performance uh we also did want to mention the human performance lane uh we have been uh working uh closely with our sports coast uh team here um adam and gabby and consuelo and their team here have been instrumental in supporting all of the efforts working with the hotels bringing bringing you know attendees in preparation for these events so we're excited about um our next event which is uh in december where we're gonna have a uh is called a human performance um training which is focused on first responders and nutrition dietary training understanding the you know all the kinesthetics that uh that support um eliminating um all of the the potential for for uh injury and teaching them all of those different things all within a model that could be duplicated and to be to have that just to be supported throughout the year with those support contacts so that is taking place and we have that upcoming indie simper so we're excited about that as well again intelligence studies another one of our core disciplines working dogs canines in public safety unmanned systems cyber security and leadership so there's a there's we have a lot going on i don't want to throw it all out to you but uh i don't know if there's any specific questions but i would love to host any questions yes sir i appreciate the report it's good to hear isn't this one facility we're the only one maybe in florida with all that provide all this kind of training and all in and also only one of six yes in the united states i believe we are the only facility of this kind that in the in the entire united states that has everything in one location there are other facilities that have a focal point of just one of these items like tactics uh or emergency management you'll hear of places like the guardian center um which is a little bit further north and some other facilities that have these types of these types of endeavors but no one facility that encompasses all of these items so um we are we are driving uh driving in a lane that's niche uh and and what it brings to to the area just in terms of um you know we've had a great deal of interest from companies that are looking

uh and interested in having a secondary site so we've been working with uh with the edc in preparation for that and understanding some of the different um opportunities in terms of incentives that are available to them and those are the things that we're currently working on as well yeah very good um what was the fasano where it said fasano on the map yes that is uh that is with our safety town uh our safety town um initiative that is focused on our leadership our our leadership lane uh and that's um you know a building that was that was created out there for that okay okay any other questions okay thank you thank you so much thank you yeah all right well thank you all so much and uh we look forward to sharing any any other future information and please don't hesitate to reach out uh we'll be more than happy to provide that for you okay great thank you thank you yes sir thank you good to see you as well all right our next item is uh usf r55 but it's not 11 o'clock i don't see mr president here yet do we no i do not okay we'll uh skip over r55 and go to r56 county attorney if you get a chance that that rubble pile is very interesting mr chairman i have uh patrick moore senior assistant county attorney uh who is here based on your last meeting um to give you an update on enforcement options for roadway solicitation okay thank you good morning patrick moore county attorney's office um so i was asked to come in here today to address through the options related to our roadway solicitation ordinance it's we often refer to as the panhandling ordinance essentially i'm going to go through the options with you and ultimately i'm going to ask the board to authorize the county attorney's office to amend our current ordinance and adopt some changes that are proposed and direct board records to advertise it for public hearing when it's uh prepared when it's ready um so first i want to kind of by wave a background go through our ordinance with your current ordinance so the county's current ordinance was created uh for the purpose of protecting vehicular and pedestrian safety in the free flow of traffic this purpose hasn't changed however a current ordinance it makes it unlawful to solicit or attempt to solicit with the intent to receive a charitable donation which is why it's often referred to as the panhandling ordinance as far as enforcement goes historically direct citations haven't always been effective which

allow or cause the sheriff's office in an attempt to enforce the ordinance to utilize the county's public roadway public right-of-way trespassing ordinance in other words sheriff's office they see a violation of our current ordinance the solicitation ordinance and then it would allow them to trespass a person or per sins from that location or an intersection however due to recent case law the sheriff's office has decided not to enforce or utilize the ordinance and in order to trespass someone uh moving forward um in fact that's that's kind of across the board in the state of florida law enforcement agencies across the state are deciding not to enforce many uh panhandling ordinances in different counties as well so this discussion is something that many other jurisdictions are also struggling with and and the reason why this new case has caused this result is because it points out the infringement on first amendment rights um specifically related to free speech as to uh requesting charitable donations and so on in public roadways so with that being said i've looked at lee county's recent ordinance that they adopted i've attached that as exhibit i believe it's exhibit b to my memo and um essentially it's it eliminates the solicitation aspect of it it's been titled as dangerous use of public right-of-ways um and it and it has the same exact purpose as our current ordinance uh essentially the safety of traffic free flow of traffic to pedestrian and and vehicular safety um what is different about this from our ordinance is it eliminates the concerns over the first amendment and specifically it eliminates any mention of solicitation or panhandling as a basis of a violation and and what this serves to do is is eliminate traffic concerns beyond just simply panhandling but incorporate violations that or excuse me actions such as you know physical interactions between vehicles not limited to just the pedestrians but but also the vehicle uh drivers or occupants themselves and it also creates a violation for remaining in in medians or other areas of the roadway what that means is is standing in a median and i believe lee county specifies of a certain size whether it's paved or unpaved it's if

it's at least if it's less than six feet wide uh it would be a violation um of the ordinance and it does not make mention of association itself and mr chairman can and yes patrick let me jump in real quick here let's go back in history a little bit because i know there's people watching from home today um obviously the panhandling was very concerning to us as it was probably a lot of the citizens that are in the audience today um it was happening across the county continues to happen in some areas and i'm sure commissioner starkey especially wants to talk about it um so but you know when i first came on the commission of 14 it was it was discussed about on you know numerous occasions so the board enacted the new ordinance and i will tell you i mean for a while though it looked pretty good it was still happening in some of the areas we know that but it was looking pretty darn good um not to knock newspapers but at the same time you know that we had we had we had newspapers standing on every corner trying to sling their their newspapers everywhere there was and the medians and things but it was a safety issue too so there's the annoyance factor there's the safety and the but there's also the safety the safety factor people are literally getting hit by cars on 19. they i mean it's not funny but they were literally getting hit by cars on 19. but at the same time we have so many people that were harassing our drivers on county roads i got a email i don't get a lot in wesley chapel in my district i was being honest with you i mean after you know over time it did get cleaned up pretty good we get the people that move up and down 75 i call them your regulars they're younger people and you'll see them moving up and down they'll stay by 75 and 56 in that area but they'll disappear for a few weeks and then they'll reappear again um but i did get a call this weekend i got a call an email this weekend and i respond to the person this morning and told them what was going on but they were singing around certain areas of wesley chapel becoming more prominent again i guess the word is on the street that it's not able to be enforced like it was where it spreads people come back out again um i know i'm being long-winded on this but i want to make sure that people at home know that you know this is why we why we enacted this before this is why it passed before i think commissioner oakley i think were you here when we might have been right before you got here well it happened in 15 what happened when did it happen well it was a progression yeah it was but i don't know jeff when it or finally aggression to finally saying i'm not sure what it was yeah we finally just shut it out said no more you know no leniency no more um so we understand what unfortunately what

happens and you know a federal court judge once again thinks they know what's better for us than we know what's better for our community and they step in and ruin it for for everybody right and let's just be honest i mean it's a fact that's that's what happened yet again um they're trying to set president for local governments you know closest to the people um so now we pay the price for it so we're talking about options right all right but we i think we patrick to help us out on this can we put the options up on on the screen is that a possibility um because your reading options but we really need to be able to refer to all the options and um i i don't have anything to put up on the screen i do i i did with the uh memo attach our current ordinance um lee county's ordinance as by way of example to that as exhibits i don't know if you have that packet in front of you i do and um it's a big one yes and i know some of us when we when we've been at our fac conferences and we've been talking about this there are a number of counties who have enacted this this kind of safety ordinance and i think i think we should do the same i'm i on a drive around holiday which i do regularly they're at every intersection and it's dangerous they're they're walking down between the cars and it's very you know who wants to hit hit someone driving walking down the street and it's just unsafe for our citizens and what i can do is ex say to you is is what the example that i provided the exhibit league county's ordinance says is it says that it is the first um unlawful to remain in a refuse which is essentially the median area whether it's paved or not paved okay if it's less than six feet and unless you're actively unless you're actively crossing in a crosswalk and abiding by um the existing state laws related to what we would call jaywalking statute i've actually made reference to it in the memorandum it's florida statute 316.130. now it also creates a second section that says it's unlawful in lee county to have a physical exchange or physical interaction amongst the pedestrian and a vehicle and and specifically notes a vehicle that's not lawfully parked so in other words in the roadway at an intersection stopped at a red light stopped at a stop sign and there's a physical interaction it makes it a violation so it almost simplifies what exactly a violation is it removes any

[Music] contemplation of of on the enforcement side whether it's the sheriff's office or code enforcement uh of trying to determine what the intent of the message is that the person's uh uh trying to to relay and it just says simply this is a violation there's no physical interaction between a pedestrian and a vehicle mr chairman let me ask another question let's think about local roads a little bit too so we think you know our major quarter is 1954 and such but we have quite a few local roads and neighborhood roads that aren't within a cdd or h away um talk a little gets more about what their protections are as well because it's not a major intersection there's a lot of a lot of times they're not stop signs there's no traffic signals in those areas i mean i don't what i want to make sure we're not doing is driving some of these people into like literally residential neighborhoods right well well this would protect any public road from for purposes of whether it's a major intersection or a smaller two-lane road if someone's stopping in the middle of the road for example and interacting with someone that's on the side of the road there it's the same the same effect it doesn't limit it um necessarily to a major intersection like 54 and and uh little well we were just talking about stop signs and and signal stuff what if i what if a person is walking down a sidewalk in a residential neighborhood and has a you know a sign that says you know i need money whatever it may say um and walking up in front of a neighborhood in front of people's houses and things like that well that i mean that well that wouldn't apply i mean if they're on the sidewalk that wouldn't apply in this situation so holding up a sign standing on the sideline sidewalk is is essentially what this case that i'm addressing this federal case and vaguely shore states that you know that's a protected uh right uh you know holding up signs uh petitioning uh protesting or what well we know that but i'm talking about obviously literally panhandling for money aspect of it right and and and that's they essentially this chord uh uh clarifies that uh and basically states that panhandling begging it would be included in those in uh the tax director's office here can we make them have a um what do we call it a um a um business tax rate a business tax receipt it's one way to get around it mr mariano thank you this has been a very sore subject in hudson area probably probably the number one complaint i get is all the panhandling

commissioner stark i'm sure you get just as many up and down uh they'll go on beacon woods drive which is right next to us 19 they'll stay right there and on and on they go they go down to 52 matter of fact alex while you're here as well there's a gentleman that's out there he actually brings two children out there with him at 19 and 52. if that's going on that needs to stop someone needs to go call dca and have that change right away i just heard about that last night as we were talking about this um so i'm very patrick i want to thank you jeff christie as well for bringing this forward i was very quick to bring it back to what lee county had done and very simply it does the two things you need to do it addresses stopping standing or otherwise occupying a median that is not sufficient pedestrian refuge perfect all the way through that the second part is what we talked about as far as try to get the people to understand they are going to be in violation of the law if they give and that's in the second phase of engaging in any physical interaction between a pedestrian and an occupant of a motor vehicle those two things will help us tremendously and i will tell everyone here dan especially to sally code enforcement i can't think of a more important thing for coding enforcement officers do at least in the hudson area to go attack this issue let the people know as they're giving and do it right in front of the people that are holding up these signs that you're not allowed to go do it it may deter this behavior from going on and i want to say with so many jobs that are available we have people that can't hire people because they don't want to work and i'm going to tell you some of these guys are dressed pretty well and and have the opportunity to go to work if they want to do a matter of fact the people that were down at the 52 and 19 with the kids i had a person who owned a restaurant drove back to them he goes do you need food he goes no i really don't need food i just need money all right that that's the type of thing that's going on so i think i want to thank you guys tremendously i encourage us to be put forward brought before the board i think it's it hits it perfectly but simply and i think it can change quality of life for our citizens um so i i do want to bring something forward but there's a couple challenges still and that is enforcement um i don't know if alex left but he's right there oh okay so you know right now so what is what does enforcement look like if you hand a homeless person a a piece of paper that they have to pay money or something they're just gonna they just crumble it up and put it on the ground so i feel we're gonna have to

get um a little tough for a little bit and get that message out there that this is not allowed in our county and we're gonna have to enforce it um and i understand that could be a revolving door but it's not a nice revolving door and i just feel we have to enforce it if we if we have something and it's not enforced then what good is it um that's a good can i just yeah jump on that mr chairman and that's a good point about obviously getting the word out and commissioner mariana and sergey both mentioned that you know i think with working with our pios let's let's get the message out we have opportunities you know on the billboards we have space on the billboards that the electronic billboards we can have let's tell people that this is essentially illegal you cannot do this you will be cited as a driver if you're giving money out to these people in the corners right so working with our teams to get the message out that's what we're going to do because how if not unless you're sitting in here watching this watching this from home you're not going to know about it so we got to just we got to spread the word and get it out there and do a public service program to get the message out so i um was um solicited uh in front of my publix and on southgate the other day by a gentleman who um he didn't get so far to ask me anything but i went to my car and i thought i told my husband i have to go back and talk to him and um he didn't look homeless or anything but i i went back and i said are you were you gonna ask me something and uh he said no i just want you to have a blessed day or something yeah i said are you in need of a job and he said yes i would love to have a job and i gave him my phone number and i didn't ask my staff i i said please call my office monday morning we have resources and we can help you get a job and so you know my office i just handed this to you um and and during commissioner's items i'm going to show you a video of some things in holiday but we we made this brochure that we could hand out to people um and i and uh i think the administrator's office decided that it should be for the whole county i personally think people on the west side aren't going to care what's going on on the east side so i think y'all should make your own and uh at first it said west pasco homeless resources and i said you know what that's i didn't want to say that so we said let's say west pasco life resources and i think i'm going to tweak it again to make sure

that there is a big thing on here that says that we can help you get a job because i want to help anyone who wants to work i want to help them work that's that helps end this problem then of course there's the mental health issues um but so we're going to be handing this out to people i see on the street and i i'm giving this to all the hoas and civic leaders that come to my harbor south leadership council meeting to go back to their communities and print them out and give them to their people and when you see someone we're not done with this yet that might need some help give it to them and let's hope that they take some action for themselves so but i am very much in favor of this ordinance issues are also for the entire county i agree yeah yeah but i i don't think there's anything wrong with having two because um main thing is get the word out yeah yeah okay so this is an action so oh move to a move to enact a new an ordinance similar to league counties i got a motion a second all those in favor chairman just excuse me that didn't work and well and direct board records to advertise the amendment for public hearing when it's ready and do that advertise we'll have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye aye aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass five zero thank you mr marshall thank you thank you thank you good job patrick okay we got a uh time certain and uh our tax collector is here with us so he will come forward adam 55. good morning mr chairman thank you so very much and members i won't be but a couple of minutes uh you know i'd like to come by here and just give you a quick rundown uh we have a check for you today um our staff is as always does an excellent job uh we have very very little wait times we have people that come from all over the state that visit our five offices to get services and and as i tell my staff uh don't say it out loud but you see a customer come in uh and in your mind i want you to say cha-ching because that uh that brings money to pasco county but with that said uh our hope was to give you about 1.9 million dollars this year as you know we also renovated our date city office uh just a beautiful office spent just about a million dollars there and the county uh the county staff was just excellent working with us and getting it done uh we reopened that up we expanded it and uh with the growth that's going on out there i know commissioner moore and and and commissioner oakley you can appreciate that with our growth we wanted to make certain it was big enough to handle that growth and and it's going

to take care of it um a couple of other things uh uh the tourist development tax um i'm happy to report even with covid uh we collected 3.5 million dollars for you uh which was uh the largest amount uh your maximum was usually about 3 million we did 3.5 for you turn that over to you as well and um i have a check for you even though we had hope to give you 1.9 we're going to give you 2.881 today 2 million 881 000. sorry that's a little abated it couldn't be more than that i mean yeah i have it spent so don't even think about it [Laughter] well it's it's um it's very much needed in the county as those funds yes sir we appreciate all you're doing we appreciate you and uh you're not only uh the five of you your county attorney your your county administrator dan biles just fabulous and working with him his staff and uh as as we do things or whenever we need something or help with something they're there almost immediately so uh and that's why we always say pasco proud we all work very closely together and that's why you're very successful in our county is successful so who would like to check i'll give this to your clerk yeah with them so you better give it to the clerk the rest of us got sneaky hands [Laughter] thank you thank you very much thank you very much okay we'll move on to need to get more business tax receipts too 57 or excuse me r57 you're right i think i'm right yeah darcy i know that good morning commissioners marcy esper director of community development pasco county i feel like we've got a few minutes of feel good so this is a feel-good presentation following um the money so you get money you spend money that's the law of life right so i'm here today to talk about um a new housing project that's coming up and it is uh with the pasco county housing authority called magnolia oaks in newport richie so as we go into the next slide you'll see that this project will consist of 77 units new construction rental units and therefore very low and low income persons primarily homeless veterans and families and non um non-elderly disabled veteran non elderly disabled and families so when we break down the project you see that we're going to have 40 units that are dedicated to our homeless veterans uh 37 units for the non-uh elderly disabled who are either transitioning out of institutional or segregated settings at serious risk of institutionalization they might be currently experiencing homelessness they might have previously experienced homelessness or they're at risk of experiencing homelessness so

this is very much a project that's going to serve some of the vulnerable people in our community what does the project look like it's a town home design with 34 one bedroom units 33 two bedroom units and ten three bedroom units and a lot of times people ask well why is the makeup like this and you'll see um and i've said this several times is that really the need very much a need in our community is for uh single adults one one bedrooms and so it's good that we're having you know a good portion of those like that they'll also be a community building and a swimming pool and uh because we're working with very vulnerable people uh we've we've all known and we learned that you can't just put somebody in housing and expect them to succeed but you have to surround them with wraparound or supportive services and this project will incorporate that so where is the project located it is on the next level the schematic plan uh looks like this on and then if you go down to the next slide it is located on just under a 10 acre site newport richie on massachusetts avenue so it is right around the corner and then we're going to talk a little bit about the funding so that's really why we're here today uh two years ago you approved one million dollars in our regular 2019 action plan so at that time uh that was the request and and that's what they thought the project needed so we uh we dedicated one million dollars of our home funding to this project and as they've gotten numbers and as they've talked to hud they realized that there was a gap between the money we were giving them and the gap to what hud is willing to finance and so they came back to ask for more money to close that gap and that really is the purpose of our home funds is to be that kind of gap financing so we do have the funds available under our home investment partnership program and so we are proposing that we give them additional funds to support the construction of these 77 units so if you look at the project costs it's going to run a little higher than 16 million dollars we are proposing we give them 2.1 million for the construction of the units and then they'll be funding or financing the rest through hud funding and they've already gotten approval for that uh on the timeline you could see on the next slide that the all the sources funding sources have been committed and or will be finally committed in december gosh it feels like it's december already but it's only october um and um and they uh and then with your approval today that that funding source of hud will be uh approved hoping to start construction february 2022 with the completion in june of 2023 so uh we're coming to you today uh the final slide is the recommendation to approve the appropriation of the 2.1 million dollars to the pasco county housing authority for the construction

of 77 units of affordable housing and we have with us today also david lambert who's the chairman of the pasco county housing authority and terry stobbs the executive director if you have specific questions about the project or if you would like to hear from david lambert he is also available thank you mr starkey um thank you marcy and we've been waiting for this for a while i know they had uh i don't i don't remember what the issues were they just told me but i forgot um that but i'm so excited about this coming forward and it's actually gonna be across the street from the park the magnolia park um are these one story are they all one story or is there any two-story um that's my one question then how quickly can we start doing another one that's my second question because this is what we need this is this we need this badly all over the county we needed more of this this is uh this is a great thing more is better yeah and and we and we have you know i hate to say we have the money but we have the money to do these things yeah let's go you know we i appreciate really you know and david will come up and answer your project specific questions but uh the pasco county housing authority is a great partner uh you know it's it's you know you have money to spend my office does not go out and build so we need partners like them to do that and also our non-profit partners so mr lambert uh good morning mr chairman david lambert with lecouche electric um chairman of the pasco county housing authority first i want to say thank you to our county administrator our assistant county administrator and marcy and the entire community development department they have been just wonderful to work with on not only this project but a lot of projects that we've worked together on and this is the first of many that we have done and the pasco county housing authority is the community's housing authority and i want to say 11 years ago when mr brown asked me to work with the pasco county housing authority we were almost in receivership we with from hud and now we are a top performing housing authority in the country so that's something that all of you all should be proud of and in doing so hud put the resources behind this community project as community housing development they will be one-story units it will have wrap-around services from the va we will have a va caseworker on-site on the in the community center uh congressman bilarakis which premier doesn't know this yet has reached out to me and asked if we would consider putting a commit a federally qualified health center premier and expansion in there we are looking at that um this is a a big boom for our community and will really go a long way to help with combating homelessness uh as well

especially uh this is a veteran family housing community which is one that we desperately need within this county and will help with some of the homelessness along the 19 corridor so can you explain the vash vouchers that are going into this hud has allowed us to place vash vouchers through uh behind this so it will be a subsidized voucher to help get those families back on their feet with that uh you know every voucher every person who lives at the pasco county housing authority in our communities or has a section 8 voucher is required to put 30 percent of their income with it so everybody has skin in the game but it goes a long way uh with it so the vash vouchers are what's backing this and and section 811 vouchers that are backing this uh project so it will cash flow this community so it will cash flow and uh be a viable project within our community the feds will have a lot of money in this project long term for for over 30 years so it's a significant uh um boone to our community we do have another one that we are working on not with the housing authority but with the one with the non-profit we created called vinson academy of venture coast that will be 30 units or 38 units of mental health housing behind vincent house pasco which will go a long way and we have others that we are have in the pipeline so we recognize the need the housing authority is 99 occupied at all times uh now um so we recognize the need and and we are trying to do some other things to build affordable housing within our community on single family lots and we've like i said we have worked wonderfully with kathy and and marcy and the entire community development staff so it's going to be a big big deal for our community ms fitzpatrick thank you chairman um i would just like to say thank you for taking the time to work heavily with the neighbors to with any of their concerns so you have gone above and beyond to help with any drainage and flooding issues over there i would like to know if there would be possibly a substation there for the sheriff's or an extra room maybe to help to keep with safety the sheriff hasn't requested that i'm sure we could probably accommodate that we welcome the sheriff at any of our communities you know public safety is a big issue having a sheriff's president's presence at our communities is is fantastic one of the things that we do do is every single resident who comes in and leases from the pasco county housing authority goes through a nationwide background check and we if you do living in in our communities is a privilege

and we want you to be there and we want to make your family successful that's why we have a very successful family self-sufficiency program however if you don't want to live in our communities and abide by the rules we certainly don't want you there to cause problems but yes the sheriff if he would love to have a substation there i'm sure our board would be more than willing within the footprint because we're not allowed to change the community building uh to do that so so kind of what let me just explain that a little if i understand it if you commit a crime and you live in a in one of these places you're out if it's a if it's a felony especially with uh any type of abuse uh violence towards women drugs anything like that you're you're out and you can't come back for five years well i'm asking because you would mention 37 non-elder disabled or transitional housing so you will help give second chances but if with with vash bash is uh it has a different set of rules some veterans have issues with the law or things like that as long as it's not a violent crime or drug offenses we are allowed to bring you in and to help you and that is the goal you know we realize that everybody has issues in life and a lot of our folks that come in have mental health issues so that's the whole continuum of care that we're trying to put in place not only within the county but at the housing authority to to really get these folks moving in the right direction and our family self-sufficiency program it has a 90 success rate uh roughly for where people don't come back into public housing and that is the goal and what that does with the family self-sufficiency program we take a portion of their rent after they go through all the financial classes and everything else and and are working and it allows them to do two things one put a down payment on a new home for their family we we escrow that money a portion of their rent or pay for them an advanced education whether that be a technical school or college or something like that to really kind of build the family unit that will be in place too intensive case management there with the va and our staff works in conjunction to try to get these folks because it builds better families and one last question i appreciate both of you working very diligently for our to help with affordable housing and our veterans i have heard on multiple occasions with osanum two and three and the rosalie rendu i was asking questions about what is the capacity or do you have additional units available and i had heard that it took a two to three month delay

to [Music] offer the housing can you elaborate on that so those aren't your projects but that's not our communities uh commissioner so catholic charities yeah we are 99 occupied at all times and our our team turns a unit it's usually within seven days the housing authority operates off of this extremely thin margin if a unit is not filled we get no management fee on it so if it's not filled um it costs this the agency money and we cannot operate but it also we want to get that person in and get the wraparound services and make them productive so we don't have the issues that we're having within our community but those are not our units that that we have any type of control over okay because i also heard them their state qualifications and i know i brought this up with sally as well i had heard that it took additional two to three months because the state requires additional qualifications so instead of them people being able to go into these housings right away from two to three months they had to wait two to three months because they had to raise the counter tops two inches or we had to rate widen the doorways so i just want to try to make sure how can we streamline to make sure this doesn't happen again and if it's a state project make sure that it's we're still meeting the guidelines how can we work together so we are the state guidelines are totally different than the federal guidelines we don't have to hud inspects every one of our units a couple of times a year as a matter of fact cut auditors and usda auditors come into the housing authority we don't follow those guidelines they do what are called react inspections and that's basically readiness for our housing to make sure it is not substandard within our communities so we have a certain number of disabled housing units that uh are already in the pipeline but and um so it it isn't an issue with us i'm not aware of these state issues but on the federal side it it doesn't impact the pasco county housing authority thank you i will follow up with you commissioner i'll get some information i'll follow up with you mr mariano thank you mr chairman this is a phenomenal project um i want to say pasco county is like the luckiest kind of with lacutie electric to work with as a partner what you guys do for economic development affordable housing the vincent house et cetera it's tremendous we're blessed to have you we appreciate you every step of the way mercy for you to bring this project forward as well to help work with them kathy this is phenomenal stuff

one of the things i've talked with before is about some of your members if you guys ever need help on some of your existing places with landscaping you know we've got a landscaping fund if you want to dress some of those up um happy to work with i just want to say the public i've talked to the board members but just so you know if we can help you in any way to improve what you're doing i think you're doing a phenomenal job very excited to see the project we're happy to keep on working with you commissioner second got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass 5-0 thank you thank you wonderful we love what you do r58 and he runs career source too he said you're busy chief welcome good morning mr chairman members of the board scott caston fire chief pasco fire rescue i am here this morning for an introduction to a proposed ordinance amending chapter 38 emergency services of the pasco county code to modify when an application for certificate of public convenience and necessity copcn can be filed and adding an administrative procedure for renewal of copcn's no funding all right so i guess i have to flip the button here i'm going to refer to the common acronym copcn several times throughout my short presentation so just as a reminder it is a certificate of public convenience and necessity but today we're here to bring forward a request to modify our current ems ordinance specifically pasco county code of ordinances chapter 38 which i said a minute ago is emergency services which promulgates the provisions for the county's ability to obtain emergency medical transportation services for its citizens through the use and issuance of copcns so under that particular section it does designate that copcns are applied for annually currently this process of course is very very time consuming it takes about five months from start to finish and it is a lot of work for specifically our fire rescue ems division as well as assembling the entire ems advisory board as well as it's very time consuming for the applicant themselves once they do [Music] once they do receive a copcn license it is good for a period of two years so what ends up happening is that by issuing these copcn certificates every year we end up with a whole all of them out of sequence with each other so what we are proposing today to solve this is allowing a amendment to the application period to be every other year for every two years and that will subsequently be on the odd number of years and this will allow all the copcn certificates to be issued

at the same time and be on the same cycle which is also going to match up with the state licensing for copcns additionally as a part of this we are also asking to allow the provision that will essentially grant the county administrator the approval to approve renewals instead of the renewals the applicants having to go through that entire process just for a renewal this will allow us administratively to go through the renewal packet as long as they meet all the criteria that's set forth in the current ordinance the county administrator will have the authority to approve that without having to assemble the ems advisory board or bring the item forward to you so by doing all this of course that's going to streamline the entire process and make it a lot simpler for a lot of people now you should have received this morning an updated agenda memo there was a modification that was made at the last minutes hopefully you have that today but that's that's uh allowing now the accounting attorney's office to advertise uh for the public hearing rather than board records just because of the very very tight time frame from which we have to work so what we are asking for specifically today is to approve the amendments to chapter 38 of the pasco county court of ordinances and allow advertisement of the ordinance amendments for public hearing on november 9 2021 at 1 30 p.m at historic pasco county courthouse city and then me too please this yeah this is just it's a no-brainer thanks for following direction the board i think commissioner i'll wait for them i'll make a motion but i'll allow her to obviously do her thing yeah because thank you and i i think this is really good that we're doing this way but there's still i think some board direction missing and that was that um um showing need so the ordinance falls short and failing to correct that consistency between section 38-43 c that contains the required elements each application must include and section 38-45 that details the review criteria the ems advisory board and the bocc must use to consider whether to issue the copn it doesn't mention that the applicant need has to show needs so then you can get unsolicited applications all the time and i think we gave more direction that we wanted that they should have to show a need so there's um maybe two ways we can go um implement two-year cycles proposed and add that an applicant will include in their application signed statements or testimonies from leaders in the healthcare industry and medical facilities that the applicant proposes to serve a testing to the need and necessity of another ambulance service and how the public interest will be served by the granting of a cop copcn

um or um discontinue and there's some other notes here but just continue the process of accepting unsolicited applications for new c copcns and charged the county administrator's office with determining when a potential need may be present in the county and one when one exists publicly invite ambulance providers to submit applications for copcn uh so um you know i think we need to still have that in there mr chairman yes sir i think commissioner stark is right on point um this could save you just you talk about all the time it takes to go through this when there's really not a need anyway we can streamline this whole process and still serve the citizens best so i appreciate them suggestions that's what we you and i talked about exactly yeah so there's a second part to this it's not part of today's modification request and introduction but subsequent to the hopefully the approval of this amendment uh modification that we will assemble a small team of people that are that are going to look specifically at the ordinance because the the existing ordinance is very antiquated and there's a lot of outdated material in that i think it was originally crafted in 1984. so we've uh behind the scenes the county attorney's office has already done a lot of legwork looking at other counties and other systems that are in place that are you know far better than what we do here so we needed to do this today to buy us some time because now this will give us a whole year now to work on that and bring back something that will that will accommodate it will take a whole year well we have that time we have the time because the next application period won't be until a year from january okay not until january 23. um if this is approved so we will use that time between now and then to come up with a hopefully a better uh solution that will address all of your requests excellent we i guess you kind of have board direction we want something like that in in your whatever you come up with yes so i have a motion and a second a second all of us in favor say aye aye aye aye all right all opposed black side motion pass five zero all right thank you and thank you to the county attorney's office just one time coordinator for making all this happen in such a short period of time chief i can tell you uh in my district i've already heard about the inspections going on and that people never have had because you didn't have the system out there for fire marshal to be doing some of those inspections and that team's out there working because i'm hearing from

a lot of my people that have businesses that probably never been injected yeah it should have been done a long time ago so good hopefully it was positive feedback i know i've asked the same thing and you know i haven't had an inspection in 10 years or eight years and now they're seeing them so hopefully over the course of the next several years we'll be able to get into all those commercial occupancies on a very regular basis and make us safer i think it's good and i i see good feedback coming back from it things that people overlook of how they stack their supplies and things in the office and it's usually very simple things yeah simple things but uh it's it's doing very good so very good thank you mr chairman thank you all appreciate it chief i just want to say and i appreciate you working very closely with sally sherman the inspections team you guys are doing a great job working together to get stuff done to take care of the citizens too that are trying to build and expand their businesses so thank you okay appreciate it thank you okay thank you we move on to r59 mr petos good morning mr chairman good morning victorios pitos with the planning and development department i'm happy to be here today before the board of county commissioners to give you all an update on the work we've been doing with the comprehensive plan itself so before i get into this update for the folks at home just to give them a heads up on what the comprehensive plan is it's the long-range plan to manage growth improve quality of life and ensure long-term sustainability for the county both economically fiscally etc etc and it's a state mandated plan florida state statutes requires in chapter 163 that we have a comprehensive plan that considers all of the elements that you see on the overhead future land use transportation housing conservation coastal management recreation and open space public facilities capital improvements intergovernmental coordination and economic development and these are what's required there can be others and so you get the idea that the comprehensive plan being comprehensive encompasses quite a bit of information that will help guide the future growth of the county so we've been working on the comprehensive plan update this past year for a number of reasons the current comprehensive plan became effective in 1991 and it was last updated in 2006 with an established horizon year of 2025. and in december of 2019 we entered into an agreement with hdr engineering who are consultants to

help us do this project on december 8th of 2020 the board of county commissioners approved the first task order to proceed with the comprehensive plan update that established it for as a five-year project and so today actually uh task order for year two was on the agenda on the consent agenda and that was that was approved so why are we doing an update of the comprehensive plan um we want to understand the current conditions and address the changing needs and reassess the vision that the current comprehensive plan has it's been 16 years since the last update 31 years since the establishment of the plan and a lot has changed since 1991 and 2006 and a lot is changing right now and because the 1991 plan took us to 2025 we're looking at the next plan to take us to 2050 hence the new name of the future comprehensive plan being the pasco 2050 plan and you can see the logo of that up in the in the corner of the slide and we'll have more on that in just a second so the purpose of the pascal 2050 plan is to guide future growth in pascua county which is a similar purpose to the current 1991 plan um to do that we've done a number of uh projects this year particularly one known as the outreach and engagement plan which was provided in your packet and that one was to support the creation of the new strategic and thoughtful plan that were that we're going to be proposing in a few years that'll be inclusive of our county's collective vision public involvement is critical at every stage of the planning process which is why we put together the outreach and engagement plan and so we want to be able to solicit the feedback involvement and the public input that will serve as the foundation for the content that's going to be created for the pasco 2050 plan the outreach and engagement plan is a first of its kind for this sort of effort here in pasco county and this will be something we carry on to carry out throughout the entire comprehensive plan updating process over the coming years and so we're going to work to ensure tomorrow's pasco represents the communities or the public's vision and we're committed to working with our community members to plan for our future as we work to become florida's premier county so we're bringing a lot of what the strategic plan is calling for to make pasco florida's premier county we want to bring that into the update of the comprehensive plan as well and so we're going to be revisioning the county's long-term plan and we're going to be looking at a number of data asking lots of questions and studying the county where we've been and where we're going

that is going to require a particular multi-year process that i've outlined on the overhead above and it starts with year one which we just completed and we're going to present some of those updates to you today year one was all about diagnostics planning for the plan itself understanding the opportunities that are ahead of us here and we'll present in just a few minutes the outreach and engagement plan itself we completed a diagnostic report for the comprehensive plan we've done market anal analysis as well as establish a best practices report and we'll go into all of those in just a minute in gears two and three which begins today after um the board approved the the task order for year two we're gonna be doing visioning and framing for the comprehensive plan so this is where we're going to develop the visions and values for the different areas of focus and actually plan the framework of the pasco 2050 plan so here too the task order that was approved this morning includes deliverables that we can present in the future regarding issues and a issues and ideas report a planning and growth challenges report as well as a preliminary plan framework map and report so these will be foundational documents taking us into year three and years three and four we'll be actually doing the plan drafting itself so we're still not at that phase where we're going to be [Music] creating new goals objectives and policies in the comprehensive plan we're still learning and and updating and getting information so that we can make those updates years three and four we'll have the future land use map updated uh we will draft plan elements and themes a couple of ideas we've been bouncing around include either keeping to the way the current comprehensive plan is organized in terms of elements like those i showed previous on the previous slide or grouping those elements together thematically so that there's a comprehensive picture on each portion of the each topic of the comprehensive plan and then in year five which we anticipate to be about 2025 2026 it will be the plan finalization where we will be looking at the plan seeing what we've come up with is it feasible asking those types of questions refining the plan and then bringing it forward in 2025 2026 for final review and adoption and so i'll stop here and hand the mic over to valerie brookins who's a planner too at the planning and development department she's been working on this project and helping us move it forward and

she'll give you an overview of the year one activities thank you mr chairman jerry before you leave i remember when we first brought this up was it 14 or 15. we met on this i wasn't here yeah you weren't here i don't know if your commissioners remember and i thought initially we were going to get that thing rolling within about two so we could be done by 23 or so now we're gonna roll into 20 what 2025 2026 because there's a lot of things we asked for a lot of changes we requested this is before your time a lot of things we requested so now we're going to wait until 2025 for a lot of these things not putting the heat on you because i don't even know if you were here i wasn't there you go um so it's unfortunate that a lot of things that i know at that time there was three of us here um asked for to get done and now we're gonna wait until all 2025. listen i know it's a big project i mean if you see the land development code it's pretty thick books but this is a long time to wait it is but i think it's important to be able to go through the public outreach and development process with the community oh i don't disagree but we're going on this takes a long time we're going on you know four four years or so from when it was first brought up and first asked to initiate changes yeah so when that in reality you know you're looking at about nine years time frame from when it was when we were first uh so to your point and it takes a long time like you say i started working on just getting a road paved when i first got elected in 16. it's paved man that's been six well five years let me talk to you about a bathroom in starkey wilderness park but um i we brought this up before and if you if you remember i i think i said it here at the meeting i wondered if there were ways to speed up the process by hiring more people hi do we have an outside firm helping us um what what is there a way to put more resources towards towards this so that can be sped up because i can tell you um as you're seeing i'm i'm putting some stuff in at develop at a when we have approvals here for i think it's david goldstein has to help me here but there's certain kind of

um approvals that we give where i'm putting in you got to have a tree in front of your house and now i'm going to talk to y'all about having architectural elements on your buildings and having to do it um from here because it's not in the ldc right yes but that's land development code that's not what terry's presenting to you today which is comprehensive plan okay well yeah but it is our you've got you've got a workload on both halves you've got land but this is the comprehensive plan which is a much broader tool yeah i know this is huge what yeah and we definitely need i mean most people don't amend their comprehensive plan every board meeting like we do that that i'm aware of it's it's a couple times a year or once a year it's a very special event um i was on the ear i was part of the ear when we redid that part of the comprehensive plan environmental what was that what's the ear evaluation and appraisal report yeah evaluation yeah i i don't that took forever we had so many community meetings and that was just one little piece i think do you have any is there any way we can speed it up so we said when we did this was land development code and comp plan that's we were talking about both of those i thought we weren't i mean we all said that because they both need to be fixed yeah all that works out we were gathering around the table remember that it was up in well it was in dade city or something i think when we had that discussion like date city yeah st leo thank you yeah but every one of the steps that he's saying here is very important of course and we want you to go through all of them we're just is there any way to speed it up i know you all are very busy right yeah he's looking at me for money [Laughter] today we approved a task we proved the task for this morning on consent right to add another year we have fun you funded it last year for phase one right this year or year two and then you know it'll be in the budget for the next two or three years until we get this done but it's not a short-term process right so commissioner starkey's point sorry i'm jumping in again is if i'm not correct that task order was for 2 50 2 28 2 28 this morning okay so how many how many um consultants did we get for 228 so we because i'm sure they're not only working on our project yeah so we have hdr engineering on tap for this project they have uh at least three or four other sub consultants under them helping them with the project hdr is a very large uh reputable firm that has done a lot of florida comprehensive plans sure by way of comparison the long-range transportation plan that's conducted every five years by the mpo is typically

about a million to a million two hundred thousand dollars and we've estimated that updating the pasco county comprehensive plan itself is going to be something on that magnitude on that order of magnitude a million to a million 200 000. now we've also gotten a 750 000 grant from the florida department of economic opportunity to do resiliency planning and so there's a lot of money coming in from the state to help us upgrade our resiliency plan which is going to feed right into the comprehensive plan we also got another eighty thousand dollars from the state as well to do parallel flooding mapping and planning that will also be built into the comprehensive plan we're doing the housing market study on on the other the multi-family issue but we're going to be leveraging those resources that we're spending in that direction to inform the comprehensive plan as it relates to the housing situation here in the county um so we're looking at multiple areas wherever we're doing work and seeing where we can leverage that information and bring it into the comprehensive plan but some of those things by the time we get done in five years and we do portions of this and map for in year four and five it's going to change again the housing market is going to be different four or five years from now a few years ago he agrees with me but i'm right i i no i i agree a thousand percent this i don't agree it takes a long time but should it take that much time is there a way to speed it up i mean with the research we've done between uli looking at all the market areas all the market things we had i mean i remember meeting down at homewood suites talking about the west market area here's what we want is we want to see get done take that information and go speed this process up as far as like doing all these meetings we've had these meetings go take the information from those meetings and start structuring stuff one of the things i brought up many many times is the way we're dealing with growth on our coast i mean i've got a guy who wants to put a seawall up three feet and i get engineers saying no you can only go foot in half and logically no simple reason for that fema would want you to go higher so let's go look at what we've got out there we right now have a coastal high high hazard area done in our comprehensive plan that hasn't been updated to match the definition that the state's got we're we're putting more restrictions on ourselves instead of working what's already with the state we shouldn't be more restrictive than what the state is and it should be simple and matter of fact i'll share that with you later on

when we get done to go push it forward so i think we should really take what information do you have that you can look at that we've already done these outreach meetings up and down the coast across the whole county let's go use that data to bring something forward rather than going through this longer step and then we get to the end of it we can go through the public hearing process to get more information from it but we're going to study in five more years now that information is going to be antiquated we can't use that now we're going to get new stuff again we get enough stuff on the shelf i think to work at right now with what we've got you're hearing about this but sharon sorry about uh we've got to continue this meeting so we can finish well i know i do too but we also did say it i mentioned at that time is that no consultants let's have enough fte so they're here full time to do the job but we didn't do that either that we're dedicated to these projects development code and comprehensive plan where are we on this five-year journey well we're beginning year two today so we're in in the visioning and framing um portion of the of the sequence that's on the overhead so is it possible to do visioning in uh six months instead of a year so the the year two is going to include uh visioning and we anticipate the issues and ideas report to come out sooner than next september the end of the fiscal year um valerie could probably speak to some of the task scheduling associated with the task order 2 that was approved today but we anticipate that these products are going to be coming out throughout the year and we'll be able to provide updates as they're being established what um so when when do you meet with us to will you be meeting with us at the beginning individually for our yeah that's part of the the project management aspect of the project to sit down and you know once we've got these reports available we'll be reaching out to the commissioners and providing updates along the way you know if we can cut each year and half that could be a good thing there's a prize at the end [Laughter] i've got an idea of how we can go quicker than that if you just turn it over to me and i'll make the decision but it's all a process and i understand i think we all do it just takes time and and we need to hear from the public as we're moving forward and and you know guys um because when you change the

comprehensive plan you change people's land use underneath it and there has to be a dialogue right you can't just involvement but you gotta know yeah so you know yeah and there's a lot of errors and emissions yeah in the la if you if you did not notice those there's things that this board had done and no here's the missions in the what we've seen so far 10 or 12 years ago and in some areas that that they didn't think it would look like it does today and some of those things don't have to change so it looks different after you go through a 10-year period so what you're planning for the future mr chairman okay nikki and i have to go we have a 12 o'clock meeting we have to go with other constitutionals but again there needs to be corrections and i know andy sent you those guys because those corrections that i mean they had they had the population of of the county i think at like 530. or was it right let me let me see the number i mean it wasn't even correct 528. so it so and there were in there in the back up item it says the county's 2020 estimated population was 528 000. well it's not even it's not it's not even right it's not even close to being right now we're using a census of 553 which we don't i don't think that's correct i think you gotta add another hundred thousand i i'm with you so we've already started off with this comprehensive plan of literally having erics mr chairman just mr chair i i would suggest we table this for now we'll go back and we'll come back and brief each individually with where we are where we're going and what the plan is get feedback from you directly and then bring you back something at a later date to kind of wrap up all those discussions mr chairman one quick comment i think that got fit but i've got a list of things that aren't right yeah mr chairman just one mr chairman just one quick comment something that terry and i talked about yesterday when you look at the map on page 44 of the regional congestion the intersection of 52 and 41. now if you go to the east in the morning it's backed up from suncoast parkway all the way to 41. if you come from the east coming over especially in the afternoon i don't know about the morning it's jam-packed for three or four sets of lights not as bad it's right and then and on this map though it's not even listed as a congested area so if that is not in is not good we got an issue which one's that 52 and 41. that's where they're doing

that function right now we'll fix it no six lanes in four lanes 52 and 41. but but on the map it says no problem because it's the assumption was the tracks that are underway right now that have been executed fix that because they bring four lanes on 41 to 52 and six lanes on 52 to 41 and so that will resolve that interchange and then we have the one gap left to fix so that's probably why that's not there okay that's right because that's planned in the very near future to be complete so that'll straighten all that up good i also think when the suncoast and ridge opens up that's going to help all those intersections what's your uh you want to go continue with we've been hearing this afternoon if you want commissioner i would just say let's take this back and we'll come back and brief each one of you individually gather the information from you the feedback from you revise that and move forward with your tube but that may include some schedule adjustments to accelerate right okay we don't need to come back this afternoon excellent all right we'll do that all right thank you terry yes sir all right we'll um adjourn for lunch and be back at 1 30. [Music] you