4.23.24 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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oh [Music] good afternoon I'd like to call back to order the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners meeting of April 23rd 2024 please silence all electronic devices and mute your microphones I will receive a public hearing with ordinances Adam p41 all right p41 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March 6 2024 good afternoon Commissioners Denise Hernandez uh planning and economic growth Department item p41 today this is the adoption on this item so I will read the title um I did provide a full presentation at the 410 2024 um first reading for this item and um after I read the title if you would please take public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote so this is Peg 24283 an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development code section 304.8 types of public notice table 304-1414 2.1 point B zoning amendments ukan submittal requirements section 44.3 Point D mining operating permits application requirements section 44.4 pointd construction and demolition debris disposal facilities operating permits application requirements section 4046 Point C yard trash processing facilities application requirements section 46.1 point6 per permanent signs exempt from obtaining sign permits and temporary signs section 46.5 Point d right ofo use permit application requirements section 46.8 pointd Garden plant permits application requirements section 51.6 RMH mobile home District yard regulations Section 51.8 RMH mobile home District streets and Roads section 83.2 listed species impacts to listed and protected species section 91.3 Point e access management access access management analysis traffic impact study 91.3 access management sample problem number one appendix a definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer for providing for severability inclusion into Land Development code and an effective date again if you would please accept public comment and adopt the ordinance amendment by roll call vote okay do we have anyone here signed up for public comment there is no one signed up no one signed up no one on WebEx correct um is there anyone in audience wish to speak to this item public comment seeing no one um Mr chairman um I I had my conversations with Denise and I'm all set so I no one has any questions I'll move for approval I got a motion in a second by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District 5 commissioner Mariano I District 1 chairman Oakley I motion passes 40 thank you move on to p42 p42 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times April 10th 2024 morning Commissioners Adam Thomas uh Pesco County tourism director uh before you today is a public hearing for an

ordinance update um and we request that you take public comment and a recommendation to approve the ordinance update um but before you today is a small presentation on the history of Tourism uh for Pasco County but I will read the item the item is an an ordinance by the border County Commissioners amending ordinance 910 9010 as amended and codified in chapter 102 of the Pasco County code of ordinances by amending Section 102 to 190 to amend and update the tourist development plan for Pascal County providing for an inclusion in the Pascal County code code of ordinances cability conflicts and an effective date uh just a little background on where we are come from or where we came from for the tourist development uh plan in 1990 uh the bard of County Commissioners adopted the first uh tourist development plan according with the state statutes that that have established the tourism Development Council and adopted the first de tourist development plan uh by ordinance 9010 um and since that adoption of 1990 the first plan has been amended on several occasions uh on November 15 2023 the tourist Development Council um has recommended that the Border County Commissioners approve the first five 5year plan usually this was a three-year plan but we have done robust projects initiatives programs so we're looking at a 5year strategic plan moving into 2024 to 2025 of the tourist development plan so the ordinance Amendment today is to update uh chapter 102 of the Pasco County code of ordinances by amending Section 102 to 190 to amend and update the tourist development plan for Pasco County for providing for applicability repealer cability inclusion into code and effective date so this is again the Strategic plan for the next five years and within that plan are four core goals that we are going to focus on for the next five years the first goal in which we've done a really good job over the past three to five three to five years is destination Marketing sales and programs and services the second goal is the destination development really enhancing the impact of what our product is uh I will note that there is a date that needs to be updated that Destin destination development strategy is a 10-year strategy and actually the Strategic plan reflects a five-year so it's actually a 10-year strategy not a five-year the third goal is actually to influence DMO advocacy and stakeholder Rel relations and uh the last one is to attain optimal demo resources and Performance Management results excuse me so the the the tdt revenues that will be generated from the tour development tax um will support and Implement four strategic goals by funding the 15 priority based programs and issues identified within the plan the second one is to operate the tourism Bureau or tourist information centers the destination management organization which which will include indirect administrative costs for services performed by the county on behalf of the

will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff rep Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning May at this time request that the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are Quasi judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's Land Development code for rezoning Madame clerk would you like to swear the public in yes if you're planning on speaking on any of these items please stand raise your right hand so you can be sworn oh boy a lot okay everybody standing all right do you swear affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God thank you all right um first items p43 p43 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times February 7th 2024 and was um continued from the March 26th meeting to today good afternoon Denise Hernandez planing on economic growth item p43 is Peg 247740 it's a zon Amendment the residences at Rolling Hills mpud master plan unit development Dan NCO Properties LLC the request is to the request is to continue the item to a date uncertain move to continue time uncertain second a motion second all those in favor say I I I motion pass 4 zero move on to p44 p44 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times February 21st 2024 and was continued from the April 10th meeting to today item p44 is Peg 24777 5 says zoning Amendment Thomas Lee and Kimberly and sck the requests is uh it's a different date is to continue the item to the July 9th 20124 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in dve City move to continue time certain second got a motion and a second all those in favor say I I I I motion pass 4 Z move on to p45 p45 was advertis in the Tampa Bay Times February 21st 2024 and by appid of certified mailings and site postings and was continued from the April 10th meeting to today p45 is peg2 24772 Eno River Resort MPD master plan unit development the request is to continue the item to the May 7th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in D City move to continue time certain second I'm under discussion Mr chairman I will not be here at the May 7th meeting okay Mr chairman yes on this continuance I mean shouldn't we hear this on this anyway though maybe we should make it the 25th meeting or if it's that's the right date well if they speak today they can't speak then no no make the continuing date instead of May

7th where commissioner starky won't be here anyway just move it to the next one in Newport Richie is May 7th dat City it is U yeah on this side May 7th will be dat City but I don't know that there's any controversy on this I think the reason it's it was actually here is there's no controversy is okay if youse I'll stick with my motion okay all right so I've got uh Motion in a second all those in favor say I I pass for zebra move on to p46 p46 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times February 21st 2024 and was continued from the April 10th meeting to today okay this item a consent item go ahead it is p46 peg2 24 7718 a zoning Amendment Circle K and sr52 and Prospect mpud stream fruit LLC is for a resoning from an AR agricultural residential district to an mpud master plan unit development to allow for 11,330 Ft of non-residential entitlements on approximately 3.63 Acres Cons with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet from the Pasad Hills planning and policy committee um and the planning and economic growth Department there is a specific condition of approval uh which is number 44 that addresses the live local act okay uh this is a public hearing is there anyone here to speak against this item and there's no one signed up and no one on no one signed up corre okay so this item remains on consent we move on to p47 p47 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times mark 6 2024 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings item p47 is Peg 24776 three it's a zoning Amendment Sandra Marie Brown Stephanie F and Derek L pontet for a change in zoning from an AC agricultural District to an R4 high density residential district for a total of 47 single family detached units there are um exp party Comm Communications with commission Commissioners starky Mariano Oakley and waitman I believe that the ones for starky Mariano and Oakley have already been um submitted to the clerk's office the one from commissioner waitman will be submitted to the clerk's office after this meeting or during the time we're at this meeting comes here with a recommendation of approval from the planning and economic growth department and the Planning Commission okay this is a public item is anyone here to speak against this item there is no one signed up and no one on WebEx no one signed up okay let it remain on consent move on to p48 p48 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March 6 2024 and by affid of certified mailings and site post item p48 is peg2 24777 1 is for zoning Amendment the names of Douglas and Kelly midling it's for a change in zoning from an AC agricultural District to an AR agricultural residential district the applicant proposes a total four potentially a for total four dwelling units comes here with a recommendation of approval from the planning and economic growth department and the

planning commission okay and this public item is there anyone here to speak against this item and there is no one signed up no one on no one signed up Let it remain on consent move on to p49 p49 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March 6 2024 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings item p49 is p24 cu13 conditional use requests for the word of Life Fellowship Word of Life Group living arrangement it's for a group living arrangement in an AC agricultural district there is a um experte communication on this item with commissioner waitman that will be um uh sent to the clerk's office uh shortly after this meeting or during the time we're at this meeting comes here with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the planning and economic growth and the Planning Commission okay this is public comment anyone sign up for no sir okay no one signed up for it is there anyone here to speak against this item seeing no one remains on consent we move on to p50 p50 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2023 and by affida of certified mailings and site postings it was continued from the January 9th meeting to February 6th to March 12th to March 26th to today item p50 is Peg 2424 uh today is the transmittal hearing for this item so we're asking that you please take public comment on the item and you authorize transmitt of the proposed amendment to the Department of Commerce and other reviewing agencies it is a comprehensive plan Amendment CPA 2301 Fletcher it's for transmitt of a comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map map 2-15 and Sheet 12 from res 3 residential three dwelling units per gross acre and AG agricultural to PD plan development on approximately 100.8 Acres of property located at the southeast intersection of us41 Lind Avenue um and 1.1 miles north of State Road 52 and a text Amendment creating sub area policy flu 7.1.7 two Fletcher and a map Amendment to the Future land use map 2-9 adding sub area map 2- 972 Fletcher and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for a repealer severability and an effective date this um in the future this will come to you with a an MPD resoning uh which is slated to go to the Planning Commission on May 16th and to the board on June 18th um do you want a presentation on this item does board wish for a presentation okay um this is Fletcher yes where did we end up with those um is this is this this is not the site plan this is just this is not the mpud the mpud will be coming to the board of County Commissioners on May 18th okay I'm okay okay Mr chairman yes so I did talk to Spencer brass from Pilot country to he's comfortable with everything as well one there I talked to Spencer brass from Pilot country he's comfortable with

everything as well oh okay all right yeah same here chairman he called for is we don't have to do X part with it so it's a public item it's own consent is anyone here to speak speak against this item seeing no one may remain on consent and this time I uh entertain a motion for the consent items move approval second you got a motion and second all those in favor say I I I motion pass 40 we move on to P51 is a regular item and a public item here today P51 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March 6 2024 and by a day of certified mailings and site postings good afternoon this is Orlando vas can you hear me is it better yes perfect this is Orlando vas with planning Services um before we start uh this presentation I if I may um add into the record an exper with commissioner Mariano okay I need receiving file moov receiving file second got a second all those in favor say I I motion this is going sorry this is going to be P 2477 um 33 blackw mpud this is a proposal from AR and AC to an mpud to allow 321 single family detach units approximately on 107 U 107 Acres and it's located north of Hudson Avenue and east of cway and hael Avenue as you can see this is going to be the location of the property which is going to be on the north side of the county this is going to be the location map and this is the context map and this is my opinion very important to discuss essentially because the applicant will be extending I mean will be constructing the sidewalk on H on Hazel Avenue all the way to COBRA way which is going to be connecting all the way to the school to the schools that are going to be right over here as you can see uh this is going to be Hudson Avenue sub right over here the subject property over here and then again the sidewalk construction from hael Avenue all the way to COBRA way the fusion land use of the property is going to be rest three and the current zoning districts as I mentioned before are AR and AC so during the Planning Commission um the applicant was proposing and I'm going to go right ahead to the master plan um an emergency access over here to Edwards Road since the Planning Commission staff has found that the applicant can have that emergency access so since they are not proposing anymore the emergency access there is no variation requested however if the recommendation is for approv uh an emergency access to hael Avenue let me go back to the master plan real quick right over here then that would need to be having a A variation from the Land Development code same if we approve uh an emergency access to Hudson Avenue that being said this is going to be the concept plan and it's going with recommendation back to that concept plan absolutely okay the recommendation comes with approval with condition from um planning and economic uh Department however uh that's taken in consideration either the

full vehicular access or the emergency access uh on hael Avenue if you have any questions more than happy to answer them now where's where's the entrance at the main entrance show me the main entrance and then show me the main the uh emergency exit so right over here on Hudson Avenue it's going to be the main entrance and then the second access either full access or just emergency access is going to be right over here on hael Avenue okay but that's emergency exit only right sorry or access that's up to you it's we have to have one planning staff is recommending a full access on ha you have they're also saying that at a minimum you're going to need an emergency access on Hazel if you don't per if you don't do the full access oh gotcha okay all right okay any other questions um is the applicant going to make a presentation yeah okay good afternoon Commissioners Cammy corporate with the law firm of Hill Ward and Henderson 101 East Kennedy Boulevard Suite 2700 Tampa Florida and I have been sworn I do have a brief presentation for you uh the applicant is Meritage Homes many of you are familiar with them they are a national home builder they primarily focus on our first-time home buyers first-time move up a very important Market segment in this community they've won several Awards and U many of you are familiar with their project s again this is the aerial uh this subject property is located in an area that's kind of a hole in the donut in between two developing areas of the county which are already develop either planned for Suburban development or already approved for Suburban development and you can see the surrounding PDS and we're sort of in the middle of that area project details as Orlando said 321 homes we're doing 55 ft Lots around the perimeter uh we are asking for 45t Lots but no more than uh 50% and then we are asking for up to the ability to do up to 100 Villas but that's included in the 45 so again it can't be any more than uh 50% of the project being 55 uh 55t Lots this was our first site plan uh we went with code minimum buffers uh since we're AB budding residential all around which was basically zero where we're abing residential property and 10 where we're buffering where we're budding AEG we had no fence or minimum screening cuz it was not required by the code and then we had three access points at that point and then we had two parks two in the Northwest and no Park in the Northeast we did have a neighborhood meeting it was a very well attended neighborhood meeting we received a lot of feedback and we've had subsequent meetings lots of detailed one-on-one meetings with the affected property owners and we have agreed to enhance buffers in the entire PD and specifically in some areas where we've had specific discussions with the neighbors uh so our buffers now range from 30 ft to 80 ft uh particularly in

the Northwest areas where we're having the 80 ft uh we're agreeing to shade trees every 60 linear feet we've got a 50ft undisturbed buffer up there um and we're providing a 6 to 8ot visual screening fence um we relocated the parks you can see now we have one over in Northeast and we made the one in the Northwest a little bit larger and then we did modify this uh access points to reflect what staff's recommendation was which did include that full access onto Hazel this is just an up close uh picture of that Northwest boundary with the 50ft undisturbed buffer and the additional 30 ft and then the screening and then along the southeast we have specific conditions regarding the types of trees that will be planted in the buffer that we negotiated with that property owner as well uh we are following PM 26 your most recent standards for single family um same thing with the paired Villas and so we are fully compliant with that that memo in your most recent memo we are going to have an amenity in open space that is uh themed similarly architecturally to provide a nice feel for the community and providing three and 3.2 Acres of total parks and overall we've been found consistent with the comprehensive plan in the Land Development code and what is remaining is some of the discussions you've already started asking questions about so the first thing we are doing as Orlando mentioned we're providing a an sidewalk along Hazel Avenue to the Hudson School ways we are that is something we agreeing to build concurrent with our development and we think that will provide good pedest safe pedestrian access uh to and from this community to those schools one thing we've talked about a lot is whether or not we could extend the a sidewalk along Hudson Avenue not just along our project boundary which is required by the code but also further uh to the west to extend to COBRA way of to ex to connect to the existing sidewalk Network and what you're looking at is on the western side the county undertook a project and did actually install uh sidewalks but you had to acquire quite a bit of RightWay to do that because of the swes and this is the existing condition on the other side and so that sort of made that project somewhat infeasible for us but we what we are willing to do is make a contri an additional contribution monetary contribution in the amount of $250,000 to contribute towards that sidewalk Improvement should the county uh undertake that Improvement in the future and then we're also going to be contributing about $3.8 million in Mobility fees in association with this project and if you so wish we certainly wouldn't object if you utilize those Mobility fees to make any intersection improvements that might might be necessary at Hudson and Cobra way and we're here to answer any questions should you have them we have our whole team here environmental traffic's uh

civil planner any questions Mr chairman yes sir I like to say I when I met with the applicant we we talked about a lot of different things one one being access and uh I'm glad you did the neighborhood meeting to find out how the people felt about it much as we do like to connect I think it was good to to hear with the resents had to say how it was going to affect their quality of life um we also looked at trying to make that sidewalk happen all the way along Hudson Avenue and not so much for this development but the developments coming behind it that are coming coming along the way and I would just want to make sure that the students from other areas would be able to walk along and have a place to go because there connectivity to it the connectivity right because their connection so so small on on Hudson Avenue they're not required to build a lot but that $250,000 is going to go a long way to work with our engineering department because they're going to need rideway swales and things to be put in and all that can get worked out and they're willing to even make that contribution once they take uh ownership of the property okay um the $3.8 million in Mobility fees you're going to hear from the residents if if the same ones speak at the Planning Commission about how the the right inss the right outs maybe left turns need to be done that could make it safer we've made some major improvements from the Hicks Road and Hudson Avenue intersection where we improved all that we put the sidewalk all the way down Hicks Road a few years back made sure it went up to Veterans Park but I think you'll hear from the residents about some of the improvements they want to see as well but I I want to say I want to appreciate that you're willing to make that extra contribution which we could make you do you're just doing that to help uh with the project and just want to share that thank you any other question from the board well um I listened to um I listen to the Planning Commission and I listen to the residents who live on on um Hazel um that they didn't want anyone driving on their road but I went and drove that road yesterday and I drove the drove the neighborhood and um I am in agreement with staff that we need a full access on Hazel i' like to you to see the pictures that I just sent to Sonia um I 300 how many homes 321 yeah I mean our rule is after 100 you have to have two so with that number I just feel very strongly that um they need another road and this is actually a very wide Road and and I I did I took a video but I I couldn't send it and so I just want to show you the the progression now those trees need to be trimmed back there but it's pretty clear that Hazel was meant to continue on um because it's not a culde-sac at the end when if I have another picture uh there are there are those signs that you see when when you have a stubbed Road and you know with the red that hey this is going to be a road one day um so I just put all just to have all

these subdivision neighborhoods just open on to Hudson is just going to make Hudson a real problem and so so I think that we should go with what the staff said um these are really Big Lots here on Hazel um and the road is in good shape and and um and then I then if you see if you go across I didn't see where on your map there you can see this is a this is a road that was meant to continue um um on the other side I want to be sure that that um we're continuing the the road on the other side and I don't know where that stub out was um is it on Pinkus where's it going to be but people are going to be very unhappy on Hudson if we just load everybody up on there so the the more the more connections we have this is just basic good planning the more connections we have the less traffic problems we have so so the So the plan is to have two entrances exits to so from our perspective as the developer Meritage we're sort of Switzerland on the Hazel Avenue access point our main access is off of Hudson we originally did not uh provide a Hazel access because in talking with some of the neighbors we knew that there was a concern there but when staff asked us to put a full access on the plan we went ahead and complied with that so there is the plan that shows that and there was further discussion at the Planning Commission about that uh Planning Commission decided to recommend no access at all including emergency access we would probably argue that an emergency access makes a whole lot of sense at a minimum if you're not going to do full access that a minimum you should have emergency access there it's good for everybody's safety it allow it goes both ways it really is allowing it's not it's not day-to-day traffic it's emergency vehicle traffic and it protects those on Hazel as well as those who live within anywhere in the vicinity because if there's ever an accident that blocks Hudson and Cobra way you'd at least want the fire vehicles to come in through our neighborhood can can we clarify something that that the Planning Commission said emergency there and they thought that you could connect to Edwards the at the time we were unclear as to whether we could connect to Edwards and we were not willing to say we absolutely could not there's a debate fire has told us we could use Edwards as an emergency AIS but the reality is we don't have a right to construct anything on anyone's property there so it's it's problematic and the Hazel Avenue fire access because of the reasons you just stated commissioner starky about the roadway being a a roadway in great condition a wide uh condition and something that's easy for emergency vehicles to travel it is really the more logical place for the emergency access point well I I think it should be a full access um I don't think you'll see a lot of traffic on there except for those maybe who are going to school um taking

kids to school or coming back but I I think it'll be a safe route for kids older kids to be riding their bikes to school and um and so I don't think that's going to be a big inconvenience on Hazel personally which one are you're talking about now that the staff is recommending a full access to Hazel okay um I don't know if you want to put your map back up that one or the other one showing Haz um n that one's not so good to to see Hazel can't see it close up we did this showing Hazel just where we were going to put the sidewalk well I do think you need the sidewalk yeah no that's not definitely need the sidewalk then kids can easily get to school by by bicycle um so best to see it from the but I'm sure we're going to hear from residents yeah we are sure would you go back two slides back that way uh one more that way U maybe right there okay so I the way this is laid out for down the road Comm starky is is I think going to the north this one this one's the revised one sorry okay so on the far right side the one one road connecting to the north what what road is is that connected to anything at all or just it's stubbed out it's stubbed out okay so I mean later on a North South Road is what's really important if some new development comes in we can make that connection going up there which may may eventually get the kitten Trail which would be a good North South Cross access to it which is more important right now everybody's going to go if they're going to go they're going on COBRA way the the biggest heartbreak is really if anybody's going to be coming in there they're going to come out from this development they're going to take a right turn and another they going to have to take another right you're going to load up Hudson and Cobra and one of the things one of the things they say right now is the intersection at Cobra way and Hudson Avenue should have been already a right turn lane should have been put in there I I would think that a right turn out should have been in there or maybe even a left turn in which is part of what if we're going to go further with this down the road is that using those Mobility fees to improve that whole intersection is is much more critical I I I am just a proponent of the more connections the better I we're going to have traffic jams on our collector arterials if we don't have a grid so that's where I am with it I I think it's I say it all the time so all right so gu let's um let's have public comment people have signed up for public comment today let's hear from them and then we'll come back okay so um there are 1 two three four six signed up so I'm going to ask the first two to come up just um Sally Harkness is first followed by Sarah brendam um um when you come to the podium please give your name and address and state whether or not you've been sworn hi I'm Sally herkus I have been sworn in and your address ma'am

13350 Meadow Golf Avenue Hudson Meadow Oak subdivision thank you so my motivation of coming today was because I'm concerned about all the development in Pasco and I saw the zoning sign at Fair Winds and Colony months ago and they just went in and just leveled every tree there and it just looks like a Barren land and then another area in Fair Winds just happened again and then I saw that the some members of my community were concerned about the development now at the end of Hazel and I went out and looked at it it's pretty because it's there's cows out there grazing but then there's also trees and I'm concerned about how we're just clear-cutting all of our trees and the air quality Hillsboro County last week had two days where the ozone was high and it was people with respiratory ailments were required to St they suggested they stay indoors but when we have the trees that helps give us better air quality it absorbs CO2 it provides habitat for birds and other animals that eat insects so I just wanted to let you know that me and a lot of my neighbors are concerned that we are changing agricultural zoning very easily in Pasco for Family Housing Development and I feel like we're losing some quality of life in our community for those choices and ask that you reconsider them more seriously when the agricultural areas in the trees and I heard that there are some penalties for taking down trees but I don't think it's significant because they just take every one down so if they have to plant a new tree but what about the tree that was 25 years old with a a nice diameter that had a lot of foliage and housing for the birds and the animals so it's going to take a long time to have another tree grow to that size so I'd rather see them have a stiffer penalty on taking down trees so they could keep some may may I answer her Mr chairman yes I'm in 100% agreement with you and we are you're using up her time so oh I think she was done so we we are um we do have a somewhat of a tree protection ordinance um we did it 25 30 years ago and we are updating it and we're GNA make it a little harder to take down some of those trees when you know they don't need to take down everything and and if they will if they do then the the fee will be higher um but but know that a lot of times sometimes it's pasture land and then the houses come in and we're we're making everyone put at least one tree in the front yard and then Street trees now and so I I I'm with you we want to put our tree canopy backs very important and um I tell I tell my fellow board members for every an oak tree will support 500 species and a palm tree will support just let her finish her she's done I'm done you're done three or four okay and uh in Treasure Island and I lived there 15 years but I came up here and I love the quality better because trees I'm with you and we're we're we're working on it thank you thank

you Sarah brandom hello I'm Sarah brand um address that's okay address for the record and then State whether you've been sworn I live at 10832 Hazel okay um and yes I've been sworn okay thank you very emotional um my house is two Parcels away from this neighborhood and you saw the little red Treehouse when you went there so it's it's quiet it's peaceful it's Serene it's the reason we bought this house to raise our family thinking about thousands of cars going in front of my house every single day when there's maybe to a month right now is terrifying um I will say that sidewalks yes we need it we need it on Hazel my child walked to school for her freshman and her sophomore year I refused to let her walk in the morning because it's 6:40 a.m. that she would have to leave to get to school by 7:00 it's dark there are run down trailers there are Woods there are animals and they are registered sexual offenders on Hazel so I did not let her walk in the morning um on her way home she was run off the road by kids in cars leaving the school she was pushed into the ditch she would had things thrown at her and she had to call me as she' passed certain Woods because she was afraid um so we do need some help on that road a sidewalk street lights cuz the only street lights are on my property um and I pay for them monthly in my electric bill because I want my family safe the the traffic four times a day I have school traffic to come in and out of my house because I need to leave through Cobra um Cobra and Hudson it needs help it needs something I'm I'm not a traffic person I don't know maybe some right turn Lanes from Hazel onto Cobra from Co I'm sorry from Hudson onto Cobra from Cobra onto Hudson would allev some of that traffic but alls I can see is everyone skipping that line because they want to race past my house to race through that new neighborhood to make the left turn onto Hudson to skip that traffic I see them do it to go to kitten and again that's not safe for children walking home the school traffic is at the same time um we're also concerned about the construction and I have so much more of a list but I know that I'm out of time no you're not out of time I can go okay sorry um you know we're concerned that the construction for the new development will come in front of my house uh very early in the morning very late in the evening um destroying my road I'm not sure how that's going to work I don't know I'm just it's just a concern of mine um also the school zone I talk to I see numerous businesses that are have their logos right in their car that speed through that school zone anyone I've had a discussion with has told me it's because the school's nowhere near the school zone so they don't have to do 15 and a lot of the reason the traffic backs up from the school is because people cannot turn

left I understand we want to make hazel that cut through but they're going to race down to beat that traffic um I don't know if a traffic light is the right thing I don't know if a school crossing guard is the right thing um I'm not sure but also when my daughter walked to school she had to cross Cobra twice just to get to the school um because the sidewalks on the West Side okay thank you your time up now thank you very much I appreciate you guys listening to us good job okay okay next is Amber Tucker good afternoon my name is Amber Tucker I live at 10502 Hazel Avenue and I have been sworn in you I was born and raised in Pasco County and I have lived on Hazel Avenue since 2005 I'm here today because I feel that this county is not appropriately prepared or proactive in planning for the growth that we have been been seeing and as commissioner Mariano pointed out at Hudson Avenue and Cobra way we have needed turn Lanes at that intersection for decades I'm a graduate of Hudson High I've seen that traffic for many years aside from living on Hazel Avenue I also oppose the Blackwell mpug resoning on Hudson Avenue Hudson Avenue and Hayes Road are not up to the demand as it is let alone adding all of these houses onto Hudson venue in 2023 the US Census Bureau listed Pasco as the number three fastest growing County in the country what changes if any has Pasco made to respond to this growth if this resoning and development is allowed to proceed we do not want this development to have access to the roads in my neighborhood Hazel Patrick and mayor these roads would still be Lime Rock if not for the home owners who paid out of pocket to have these roads paved through peas in the late '90s and early 2000 our neighborhood roads are busy enough with drivers speeding down them to cut through between Hudson Avenue and kitten Trail and a constant stream of school buses accessing the Pasco school's Northwest Bus Garage on Patrick Avenue we do not need any additional traffic cutting through our neighborhood from the board of County Commissioners website one of your values is service Excellence we serve to make the community better our neighborhood is still zoned as agriculture residential how does a owing traffic from a subdivision of 321 homes into our neighborhood make our community better during the March 21st Planning Commission meeting the fact was touched on by the Planning Commission that perhaps the growth factor calculation that is due used for traffic might be inadequate if the county is in fact using outdated formulas that do not properly calculate growth how does that make our community better from the Pasco County Office of economic growth website Target IND indries do not have to pay Mobility fees to the county when they locate or expand their business in Pasco during the March 21st Planning Commission meeting residents were told that we're in a chicken and egg scenario where the county can't build infrastructure before it is needed

giving incentives to businesses while telling residents we can't get improved infrastructure unless there are heads and beds another quote from the Planning Commission how does that make our community better the only reason we have seen any improvements in our neighborhood is because residents are paying more in sales tax through the penny for Pasco that's why we have that nice sidewalk from Hudson Avenue to the Hudson schools complex because taxpayers are paying extra the penny for Pasco the penny for Pasco generally brings in more Revenue than projected can Penny funds be used to make any improvements on the roads and intersections in our areas we aren't asking for extravagant we are asking for adequate to bring our roads and intersections up to current demand thank you all right thank you all right the next individual signed up is Kath Catherine broa hello I'm Katherine broa um have been sworn uh live at U 10837 Patrick Avenue okay hson and uh like this young lady had more information than I had but um to open up um hazel to um complete access um and 321 houses everybody's got basically two two cars so 600 and some extra cars on our roads our our roads out there are not like Highway 19 they will deteriorate with that much extra traffic um the side rock is nice along Hazel um emergency vehicle with a gate you know whatever that would be great but all the extra traffic and like somebody said earlier oh it's just going to be school traffic no you get all those people they're working people they're going to be traveling down there racing out to a kid Trail we can't at school time we can't even get out on the Cobra and sometimes we can't even get out on the kid Trail and we don't have all the extra traffic right now so that is one of our main concerns that and the noise the light and the water pollution that we're going to get from this cuz we're downhill from the downhill from that subdivision so we're going to get all this extra stuff so but it's mainly the traffic our roads will not hold up to it and then when the roads go bad what I understand is we're going to get we're going to get charged for under leans on our property so it's not fair for us to have to pay for extra traffic to destroy our roads so that's one of my main concerns thank you thank you what was your I'm sorry what was your address 10837 Patrick okay she's got it thank you okay um and then the last who signed up are Alicia wanis and Jason wanis I hope I Cor pronounce that correctly joannas I [Laughter] guess before I begin um I was told by Joanna Chesire that if I had um documentation that I could submit it here for the record you can move to receive and file second you just give it to but can you give your address and state whether or not you've been sworn um Alicia joanis

10816 Patrick Avenue Hudson Florida 3 3 4669 and yes I've been sworn and this is just what I'm subm have I have a motion a second oh I'm sorry all those say I I I um all I'm submitting is I um requested additional time I was granted additional time at the Planning Commission meeting I did not realize that the rules were different um so it was denied but um I'm just submitting my statements from that meeting yeah thank you okay sorry Mr chairman and the end of the mic B bends down if that makes it thank the end very end appreciate that okay M Mr chairman P um just like to make a request she did get 9 minutes at the Planning Commission we spoke very eloquently I understand that but that's I didn't take that long either I uh I was able to bring that down to about six okay good afternoon Commissioners since we were first informed of the proposed development I have tried to gather information to Aid me in trying to stop or slow the intensity of this development I do not wish to have a community especially won this Den to be built behind my home unfortunately we have no rural protections because someone drew an arbitrary line on a map one mile north of my home any Community being built should more accurately reflect the surrounding area I have filed several public information requests and this is what I have found in the Last 5 Years 289 mpud applications have been filed and approved not a single project was Mark as denied there are 10 subdivisions being built or approved to be built near my home these along with this project is just shy of 5,000 new home sites within a f mile radius of my home we were elated at the conclusion of the Planning Commission meeting last month when a motion was approved 4 to2 to deny full vehicular access to Hazel Avenue however in reading the agenda memorandum for this meeting I can see that it was determined that there is not an easement over Edwards Road and it cannot be utilized for emergency access therefore it is being recommended to again Grant full access to Hazel Avenue so I would like to repeat to you my objections the connection to Hazel road is not something that should be allowed not all code can work in practical application and this is one of those instances from what I understood from the Planning Commission meeting there are two codes used to address Road Connections this one was for only the purpose of interconnection and not because the proposed Community would surpass the number of units needed to require the connection the addition of 600 plus cars down Hazel Avenue will make it impossible for current residents to make their way out to Hudson Avenue it is already extremely difficult to do so several times a day especially when the school zones are active our roads are already used as a cut through from Hudson Avenue to kitten Trail and we have the additional traffic from the school buses going to and from the bus depot several times a day if you connect we will no longer be

able to get to either major roadway in a timely manner and may God help us if we have an emergency because no emergency vehicles could get to us if we needed them the proposed community's roads will be private and maintained by an HOA or a CDD all of our roads are public and when the additional traffic inevitably damaged our roads the county will want to put 10year leans on all of the properties to repair them it should also be noted that a good number of current residents already paid 10year leans to have all of those roads paved in the late 90s just as we wish to maintain safe and clear roads in the event of an emergency we would never wish to deny anyone the same consideration so if no other emergency access could be made I would support Hazel being made into an emergency access only only and only if this access was gated at all times unless being used by eer emergency Personnel excuse me I still strongly oppose full vehicular access to Hazel Avenue we hope that you will take our opposition um seriously and that you would take the recommendation made by the Planning Commission not to allow full access to Hazel Avenue thank you thank you last person Jason joannas is next you have this map hi will you look address yeah Jason joanis 10816 Patrick Avenue I have been sworn in I don't have too much to say I thought I could donate my time to my wife but I was denied that so um just okay going off of what let her come back well now I listen to something said she for an hour on this um okay I mean I agree already with what most of everything with the residents have said here I disagree with some of the statements that were made um by others um as we saw from the applicant this is an area that is away from but between highly um densed areas um so this is kind of the last area that isn't um filled with homes which is why we all move to this area if I wanted to live in a neighborhood I would live in a neighborhood uh like they're planning on building here um this is an area where every home is it's a home per two or three acres and we're looking to develop um three homes per single acre that is a drastic change there's a lot in between you can do one home per acre you can do two homes um per two acres um spacing it out a little bit of a transitional area um between highly dense the traffic is already a problem um obviously with people already mentioning Money's been donated money's being needed to fix the roads for just what's currently there not to mention an additional 300 and Plus Homes um 500 homes just a mile down the street talking about extending the sidewalk to another neighborhood that's still being built it's just going to magnify what's already a problem the best way to stop the traffic problem is not to build so many houses that require the traffic so just keeping this area the way it's supposed to be um Open Spaces vibrant places you're taking all of that away um you got tree problems there's thousands of trees there leave

them and then you don't have to worry about knocking down the trees for the other neighborhoods I'll stop there I don't have that much more to say so yeah you did a good job no I didn't okay thank you there's no one's signed up is anyone uh in the audience wish to speak that has not signed up if you have come and line up behind a Podium and then I think you're getting the drill but when you come to the podium name address and state whether or not you've been sworn thank you okay hi I'm Kathy rer just pull that down to you yeah 10908 Patrick Avenue okay um and you been swor yes I have been um I've lived there since the early 1980s and I'm absolutely opposed to rezoning thank you rezoning the property that runs completely along the back of my property we've have several Parcels there um or are opening Hazel Avenue for through traffic if we have to do this for emergency I I understand that in the safety of the children but it certainly I don't care what they put there is not going to make it any safer for these kids going to school there's a bus depot that they come in and out back there in a maintenance building they fly back in there they cut through there go down mayor Avenue connect and go out to kitten Trail it's an issue a terrible safety issue no matter what they're going to put there at Hazel and Cobra um you know we all bought in this Pro the property in this area so that we wanted to get away from exactly what is proposed here today we didn't want to live in communities like this houses on top of houses I I respect that the Builder has tried to make the buffer a little bit bigger and we appreciate that but we really don't want this in our backyard um we're the only ones losing the people who have lived here all our lives and raised families here and have grandkids here and the young ones coming up too and we're the ones who are going to suffer for it now it's going to be taken away you're going to open this road up and we're going to have a whole new community for us um I know that a lot of our neighbors couldn't be here today and I was looking online for the packet today and I could not find their opposition letters and I couldn't find mine on there maybe I was looking in the wrong place but there were a lot of opposition letters sent in um we're telling you our Representatives we don't want this we don't we live there thank you very much can excuse me did you say your address was 10908 yes weird it might come up 10936 there's a couple Parcels there okay and 109 there was nothing on 10908 10936 yeah okay thank you the properties have been combined so there might just there's a bunch of that out there yes I drove all around yes thank you thank you good afternoon Clinton win 1279 win Lane I apologize I was late so I want to pay

my respects to Mr Bradford and the family I didn't get the sign in um guys this is you sworn yes I was sworn okay thank you thank you this is another one of my areas of passion that I was working on with the West Market okay um my property is now the only green space on Hudson Avenue between Meadow Oaks and palm wind so and we have since 1953 I'm not here trying to stop development or cease it or pick it what I'm saying is let's do smart development with infrastructure I've been asking for infrastructure from day one Hudson Avenue is a nightmare my friend was killed in his go-kart yeah he was at night and he shouldn't have been riding like that I've asked for the vision Road at Colony Road to be to come to fruition crickets the development at Fair Winds and Colony Road there is now flooding on Fair Winds and you're now flooding the backs of the houses on Barney Road these people on Hazel they're going to get a bunch of water cuz there was 5T of dirt put on at Fairwinds and Colony that was not originally planned so please go by there on a 1hour rainstorm and Fair Winds got flooded something I came to you guys again and let you know ahead of time because I've been on the road my whole life now is this development going to be gated cuz that can help eliminate people from cutting through Hazel from Hudson Avenue and then causing a nightmare at Cobra way and please go to COBRA way on school exit time in Hudson Avenue you can't get out you can't get out so this is our neighborhood and you guys are elected and you have your neighborhoods we're here communicating and sharing with you yeah the connection roads are great krisher starky but now we're cutting Hudson Avenue to 52 through Meadow Oaks people are going to be riding their golf carts trying to avoid cars cutting through which isn't fair to the to the residents of met Oaks nor Fair Winds either and colony where the Dunkin Donuts is going um is Palm wood going to have to um the sidewalks commissioner Mar great idea we need to have sidewalks on Hudson Avenue from Palm WID all the way to COBRA way almost done I'd like to thank Joe and Betsy with the development for sending me the paperwork for this right away but again please go to these traffic areas during the day school enter and exit time go to Fairwinds and and see what 5T of fill will do to the neighboring houses and they got flooded thank you thank you no clapping anyone else that would like to speak that didn't sign up come forward state your name and address for the record and if you're been sworn good afternoon my name is William Cromer I live at 10908 Patrick Avenue that's in Florida okay any you been sworn have you been sworn I've lived there since I'm sorry have you been sworn I have been sworn all right thank you okay I have lived there since the early 80s I put up with the potholes on

COBRA way being patched for 30 years thanks um why don't you look into uh putting an exit from Hudson High School parking lot out to the rec center on Hicks Road it's a major road it's only going to get larger instead of running any traffic through our neighborhood the gated community that was a good idea because now nobody's going to cut through there unless you live in there as far as an emergency you could go there four times a day with a fire truck and you're not getting through there you're just not going to get through there I've tried it with all kinds of equipment for a lot of years and you avoid it four times a day so there's other options let's direct the traffic out of there another way we don't need a thorough Fair going down Hazel from the high school and that's what it's going to be I know you enjoyed our road Miss starky because we paid for it and we we maintain the road we cut the grass on the side your county mowers come down there they don't even come down our road we take care of that we maintain that we hang flags on our polls we live in the United States and we want to be able to have a say in what goes on and all of you people that are part of Pasco County we're not here to give you a hard time we can't stop the development you know that but this road is a nightmare you're asking for trouble if you open it up for through traffic you want to open up for emergency God bless is not a fire or an accident there at school time you're not getting in but you could open up for emergency only and walk in and a bicycle riding I I'll go along with that if not bring it out in the Hudson half we pay enough money bring in another access into this development you want to put 321 houses on we bought property for there for a reason so we don't have 321 houses behind us develop it why you going to cut all the trees down as an ex arborist I'm going to go in there and measure all the trees I don't want three trees on the lawn I want inch for inch from beneficial trees you want to go that way we could play that game I'll go measure every tree on my own and I'll give you a per inch of tree that you can replant you go in you bulldoze everything down and you put up buildings comeing here today I'm some I don't even know where I am anymore it's terrible we don't want the traffic we don't deserve it we didn't ask for it there's aot lot of other things I could bring up in Pascal County that goes on like the baseball field up in Hudson it took seven years to get a light for the batting cages and the pitching mound wonder whose fault that was I don't want to point no fingers at anybody but we were there with cranes and diggers and and poles to put in the ground all right thanks and the commissioner wouldn't answer it wouldn't answer his

phone your time's up and then then they wouldn't give us a permit so we had to cover the holes back up that we did for free we donated thank you thank you is that uh is that the last person I wish to speak to that hadn't signed up um Mr chairman I don't feel that the planning staff adequately adequately conveyed why they think that it should be a full service so I'd like to hear from planning why they recommended full service okay good afternoon Mr chairman notario pitos planning and economic growth Department um full access full access not full service yeah full access on Hazel Avenue is recommended um commissioner starki made a few of the points earlier that with the more connection points that you have in residential developments traff to each other and to the surrounding Road network uh the more opportunities there are for traffic to disperse and reduce congestion within the area absent the connections full access connections to neighboring streets roads developments um what you're asking for is all the various homes within a particular development to come out out onto one collector or artial roadway that does contribute to the congestion that uh is experienced Additionally the Land Development code requires uh two connection points um which in our original recommendation would be Hudson Avenue and Hazel Avenue we would get additional connection points uh to the north of in this development along the northern boundary uh when future properties is further north North uh come in for any sort of Redevelopment or re excuse me any sort of De development um and this is basically following the board policy the comprehensive plan policies as well as the Land Development code uh to interconnect neighborhoods to provide again more opportunity for residents to move between developments from one point to another the board has mentioned at previous meetings also that they would like us to be making those types of connections when developments are proposed so for those reasons we recommend that hael Avenue be uh a full connection connection um the applicant did not do a traffic study of how many trips would be generated on Hazel if it was a full service or full what do you call it full access full access oh there he is right there y about the applicant because we heard 600 cars um and then I do want to talk talk about who's going to be responsible for maintaining that road because that's going to change for you all sure Steve Henry links Associates 5023 West Laural Tampa 33607 and I have been sworn uh so the the analysis that we did so one is in the code because we're less than 600 residential units we only required one functional access and one emergency access so our analysis was based on that criteria which is one act full access to Hudson so that that's what the analysis was based on so we did not evaluate

the impact to Hazel uh from from a standpoint of traffic on Hazel the reality is for the most part as far as from our development it would simply probably be the people students that are going to the one of the schools there which would be you know somewhere in the neighborhood we I think we estimated about a 100 students a little over 100 students between the elementary middle and high school so from that standpoint because the reality is Cobra you know just goes out to Hudson so from that standpoint we wouldn't expect it to be a s significant amount of traffic that from our development that may go that way because we'd have direct access to Hudson but that's why our analysis did not look at it because it's not required per the code to have two functional accesses well I I think personally think when staff was recommending the access you should have you should have done the study you should have should have looked at it but I think you can just extrapolate like you did from the numbers it's not 600 cars a day corre um also there will be uh one day may be a benefit to Hazel PE folks on Hazel to go other ways if there's an accident out there on COBRA and to avoid the to avoid the pile up at Cobra and Hudson during the day um they can go out they would be able to go out another way and get on Hudson rather than get stuck in the mess of that intersection during school hour so it's beneficial to both however I I know high school students students um I've had four of them and I'm not saying mine ever did this but I could see where some kids may inappropri drive too fast on Hazel um and I wonder if a speed bump put in by the county would help slow down um slow down traffic on Hazel so we don't have high school kids speeding until some of these other maybe some of these other accesses are um put in but um that's a thought because I don't want to see anyone speeding down Hazel and it's a straight road and it's very wide and so um people could speak when I drove on it I drove on it twice I was the only car I I think there was a truck leaving the first time I was on it but I drove all around the neighborhoods say a little County maintained Road oh it is a County Road um [Music] yeah it's a local Road it's not an arterial collector so they um and it it is in beautiful shape and it's a beautiful neighborhood with lots of beautiful trees um we are changing the way that's all and I don't know our staff thank you unless you have a question no but I I would like to have the applicants rebuttal before you get you're absolutely right commissional com okay AFC come back forward for then you can have all the discussion you want yeah cor again I just want to talk about the prass Cammy Corbett again for the record I just wanted to the last several speakers actually live along the Northwest uh area of the subdivision and so I want to pull this slide back up and just to show you what we've done uh this is actually

the hanes's house um we're at 95 total distance 95 ft total distance from their home we've got the natural buffer we've got enhanced plantings we're actually putting the fence you can see that where that fence is located at the 80ft buffer so the fence is on the outside so they're going to have Landscaping uh between the fence and so we've tried our best to preserve their rural look and feel and worked really hard to do that and again the code would require almost no buffering and screening in that area and so we have tried to be respectful of that um and again just wanted to remind everybody of the commitments that we are making with respect to transportation we are essentially um required to U make about 7 $150,000 worth of improvements and we've agreed to between Hazel Avenue and Hudson Avenue contribution are agreeing somewhere in the area of another million dollars and then the $4.2 million for uh the the impact fees or Mobility fees that can be directed towards this project and this area is planned residential 3 and I think you all have the opportunity to not make the same mistakes Hillsboro County has made which is not allow the allowable density within your comp plan which then pressures because of concerns about development in the surrounding community and then that forces your rural areas that you have designated as a ro to have development pressure in the future you really it is a good idea to follow your future land use plan and allow for plan densities um that are consistent with that comprehensive plan and your staff has found that this proposed development is consistent with that and with that we' respectfully request your approval and again we are here to answer any question have you considered uh in the buffering areas have you considered leaving the the main trees in those areas rather than push them out cuz I've suggest that to other builders and other areas and it's hard to like gentleman said it's hard to replace a 25y old tree or even a 50 year old tree yes but uh if that was all possible where you stay back and and leave that buffer with the natural landscape of of trees and all that you have it's a much better product so and that is in the condition that requires that is one condition we can't leave it 100% undisturbed because we may disturb it but if we do disturb it we have to plant it back but that is in the conditions already Yes okay all right thank you um me ask a question on that okay because um I I think the language should be maintain a buff a a a um buffer with trees in case trees come down if the trees come down in the storm or whatever and then they have no more trees that there needs to be a requirement that it be replaced replaced yes so and I I don't know if we've done that in the past but but we want to make sure that that buffer stays natural weather and natural happenings happen so planted yeah Mr chairman yes sir question for the applicant um so we just heard Steve Henry say we didn't you guys didn't need

to put in a you need all you need is a one entryway in and the one emergency access correct and you try to design your project that way correct when you submitted that did staff have any objection to it yes not I mean the comments process is iterative so as we were reviewing it we didn't initially receive comments of that but later on in the process we did much prior to the Planning Commission okay but after but it wasn't like initial thing there was an objection to it because you were you were following the code thereby you were okay in the initial methodology for the traffic study yes that's the case that was the set of assumptions we are operating okay thank you any other questions well I was going to go over the P um what the the road maintenance changes that are coming but that's for not for her um did you say that this is res 3 and what you're proposing Is Res 3 you're not asking for any increased density no okay okay the future land use Is Res three and their proposal is within that classification requesting additional density just to what is zone for not right yes no additional density other than what it's own for now but not additional density other than what's in the comprehensive plan right okay okay Mr chairman yes I'm anyone I'm I'm good with the applicant if everyone else was good yeah I just want to ask I just want to inform about the road maintenance no I want to talk other things Mr chairman okay Mr chairman yes so you know Hudson is a very difficult District in the sense of you've got a lot of rural there's a lot of growth pressures I've had a a vision road on the map from Hicks Road connecting from New York to Denton Avenue you've heard us talk about with other development up there spent on that road for 15 years never been put as a Noth salt road which would connect actually an arterial from 52 to Denton all the way through never been put in um you know Clinton wi who just spoke a little bit bit ago used to serve with us I believe um talk about smart development putting the infrastructure in place and we struggle with that in Hudson because there's so much pressure down to the southern part of the county these districts as they go down the Hudson doesn't get as much growth as down south thereby infrastructure improvements happen more to the South than they do up here right and what it's led to is a vastly uh under infrastructured area that that that that we have right now I I I came to you guys two years ago when we had the project up in Denton Avenue I showed you on kitten Trail the issues we had on that roadway I showed you on Hudson AV the same way you got business people that are right on that major roadway that can't get out to the east because all the traffic it's there it it it happens for at least a half an hour 45 minutes every single morning and it happens to the north as well we've got an opportunity here it's going to be

it's going to take a strong effort to go make it where we can go fix the intersection at Cobra way in Hudson Avenue it's dramatic it needs to be done and someone made mention of a all the way down to Hudson Avenue at Hayes Road where we have the waste utility you've got Southwind you've got jobs coming out with gar Plastics down the road that intersection needs to be fixed I mean it's not safe the way it is you can actually drive through if you aren really paying attention when the changes were made to to how it goes there's no right turn lane left turn Lanes or anything else there we need to make those improvements to take this development which doesn't need to have any more than one access point but you create a safe way for people to go across the students to go across on Hazel I think is very appropriate and it doesn't disturb the ruralness that's already around us we're putting all these buffers in place right that emergency access is there if needed but it doesn't have to flow with traffic and all the traffic that cuts in and around you don't need that there what we should be focused on as well is for the same people that all these children that be going through there is right now they've got a cross over you heard two times to get to the what two times to get to school to get in there we need to go make sure we could put a sidewalk in on the east side so when these kids get in now they can walk into school one way to get in and not worry about the traffic that circles around that whole place to get in and out it'll make it much safer that's what we should be looking at doing for infrastructure uh Hudson Cobra we Hudson and Cobra way we need to go put a right turn in right turnout right now I think staff has mentioned that it's it warrants it right now and I guarantee you if you do more study on just that intersection you'll find even more need for left turn in left turn out that would free up a lot of the traffic there um to take um if the if there's ever a way and and I know the kids used to cut through Hudson High School going across to get Veterans Park we need to go look and find if there's a way to go do that now some of these things that are Transportation oriented we can pay for that with the impact fees we've got um between the impact fees going to be needed to do put the sidewalk in Hazel I don't know you're going have enough money for that but I want to say that with 250,000 put forward to do sidewalk improvements we can do some of those improvements that have immediate effect in safety and let's face it we're all about safety right we want our kids to be safe it's tough to go through regular financing mechanism to get them done but we got an opportunity here to try to make something better and I'm going to implore the the the land use we're inside the land use category for what looking for density but I says but I think that we really need to make sure that we protect that nabhood from everybody from Patrick and Hazel that may be working tday that couldn't come

here that would be speaking the same way we don't have to destroy their quality of life and putting everything through and commissioner starky there's other aises that can happen later on that we can connect that these guys were setting up that can make those connections when it's more appropriate later on when another devel development comes in to the North or to the uh east side then let those connections happen there and let the traffic flow better but not just you to just generate traffic all the way through that neighborhood that doesn't need to happen taking a right turn in and a right turn up is just as well and most of the kids there I think they going to want want to travel in a nice safe sidewalk so commissioner would that's my thoughts would the uh folks that want to leave Hazel in the morning going to work and not want to deal with all the cars on COBRA not better benefit from coming out on whatever Road this is going to be in this community they say cuz we saw this you know and I've heard this a lot um but when the when it's really built it ends up benefiting everybody and we we fought this when we built long leaf and we have one two three four five maybe five entrances through the community of long leaf that that connect to the neighborhoods around it and they they all fought it they were sure that everyone was going to die um but in effect it helped the people who live in the neighborhoods on the outside of long leaf to be able to get to starky Boulevard without going out to 54 making a U-turn come around sit in the light and go north on starky so I look here and most of the neighborhood is I mean there are grids here I mean the people from Hazel if they're going north they're driving up mayor so they're going in front of all those houses I mean um and then you're going on Patrick so if you live on Hazel you're driving through mayor you're driving through Patrick to get to kitten so you're going in front of all those other houses so I I I don't understand the hesitance reluctance to um to put to continue working on a grid um I think the whole thing should be connected Ed and then again you won't have these backups at these intersections that's just better better planning better design so is there um can I say one more I'm sorry can I finish on the road M so we are changing the way that we maintain the local roads so your private road the road that say Hazel um in the past as you said you guys did a pvas um that will change and we are going to go to a system where everyone pays a fee per year and the county is going to maintain all roads and all sidewalks and to a road fund that into a road fund and um your road will be maintained in a in a better condition um for forever you won't have to go through that again yeah so all right Mr Whitman thank you chairman yeah listening so I have I I have concerns Hazel was paved in the

90s and with the volume of traffic coming in and out of the community whether it be school traffic or residential traffic adding that much more traffic the road's nice today but I'm I'm concerned about you know what's the quality of that road how long will it last how many trips until that road starts to fall apart and then it goes from a nice road today and then two years from now it's on a list and we've got to figure out how to pave it unintended consequences if you will so I've concerns with that I appreciate Mr W coming and sharing the the flooding issues I want to make sure on our staff level that flooding with this project is not going to impact neighbors and it's concerning to hear that project around the corner if that's happening I'd really like staff to take a look at it and make sure something didn't go wrong somewhere there um based on you know if this neighborhood comes to frish and just as the folks on Hazel don't want neighborhood and school traffic going down their Road the folks moving into this neighborhood probably have the same concern so I'm tending to align with at least start off with a gated access for emergency access on Hazel with pedestrian with a gate so school kids and parents can walk their kids to and from school I think that's a happy medium and we figure out the sidewalks once we know the condition of the road and as you know progress happens in this area a gate can be tempor and then if it's appropriate to remove the gate uh for full access with both communities agreeing to that then I think that might be a good fix there for at least you know short short term um going back to your point and some some one of the residents brought it up there absolutely should be no construction traffic on Hazel um and I'm and I'm sorry did you say that would be a turn lanane into into this neighborhood is there a name for the neighborhood did you say you were making turn Lanes yeah so that's that's where the construction traffic should be construction traffic doesn't need to be we don't know the condition of this this rout to even handle yeah I would say it's I'm pretty concerned about that too you know let's let's have the applicant come back up and tell us what the Restriction is on construction you got out of your seat too early yes yeah so when we are building left and right turn Lanes on Hudson into the project driveway that is that in in the traffic analysis and we meet the warrant the main entrance you got right and left turns correct yes okay thank you another question so is uh is there a um to answer the second construction is are specific that it'll travel you'll answer the question there is not a current condition in the mpud that restricts construction traffic on Hazel but we would accept a condition that read that let's do that yeah okay well while you're up can we go back to the map that just shows all the

interconnection for the future I think that one shows it the best so earlier when we first met were were there more connections that were potential that were just not connected but going have to ask Joe Simo to answer the question about iterations of plans and where we showed accesses and why because right right now I see I see the one on the right side a little bit I thought we had one even going the far right I say we do have one down low here another one down low but were there any other connections that were proposed for later on in case of development did come in afternoon everyone uh Joe s with W engineering 12363 Hampton Park Boulevard Tampa 33624 and I have been sworn um there was never uh that culdesac you see on the east side that never poked through I think initially we only had one access to the north but because of the width east to west of the project we added the other one that's um that that upper lobe on the right hand side so I think we've actually added stubs sorry we've added cross connects as the plan is iterated um this illustrates the before there were three access points and then this shows the four the traffic will go so and the reason I just bring out those points is for later on as you mentioned commissioner wait as we do build out around and things do come in if you disperse it with three or four different connects instead of just one which is going to go all to the same place then it can make sense but right now I think the emergency access being closed makes the most sense right now for everything and let's focus on improving what what is already crowded out front with traffic let's go fix that stuff with the infrastructure and let's use the impact fee money we've got coming in from the project that do that stuff and let's go improve what's there before we open up a can of worms we don't have to open up um Sonia can you put my picture up with the end of that road please I just want to remind you that the way this road was built is it's part part of a system okay no that's a perfect now go back go back the other way um see I don't know if that is that fence still there yeah um that is that is a road that was meant to continue that is not a culde-sac or a three-point turnaround that is a road that's going into the property to the next of it to the next one so um again I think it benefits the people on Hazel to be able to get out to Hudson without going on COBRA so that's you know I'm not going to keep going there yeah thank you yeah commission St I'm not disagreeing that this road isn't is isn't meant to not be used for a larger purpose I don't think it's ready to be used for that greater volume of traffic today agree that's what the gate so if we have access so if folks have access that live in this community to Hudson hav and they have access to come and go to take their kids from school be by foot or car just for them it's VIP gated

access if you will then over time and we see the wear and tear on the you saying gated not emergency V for emergency but people on Hazel don't go in and out of there potentially but the folks that live in this community to get their kids to and from school I didn't hear objection you're saying putting a gate there talking about pedestrian traffic yes to get to and from to get to and from school in emergency access for they're not I I don't think these people are going to walk their kids to school you don't know we don't know golf we don't know how they're going to get their kids to school it's the parents' Choice how their kids get to school it's our job to okay provide the means for that so I think a gated at least for the this point in time is appropriate okay Mr chairman I'm trying to understand Mr Mariana I'm ready to make a motion you want I'm ready okay all right I'm going to move approval with an emergency access only at Hazel that's not what you say I'm going to look for staff to use the $250,000 contrib contribution for sidewalks uh to be looked at where the best place to put them and that could be on the east side heading up to the school uh to wh they where they look I want to have staff take a look and maybe bring it back to us at a better time we can actually study it to go look at those improvements on Hudson and Cobra way the right turn right out left turn Lanes um and possibly the Hayes Hudson Road okay chairman yes sir Comm Mar would you consider amending your motion at ability for The Pedestrian folk gate or however we want to design it so folks can get use Hazel to walk or bike to school with yes I think that was I thought that was in the development but if not we'll it I want that confirm okay yeah that is okay I'll second commission Mar motion Mr chairman that what you what neither motion or seconder has done in my Tally is um restrict construction traffic on Hazel Avenue I will add that to my motion to restrict the construction traffic on Hazel AV second and then I think the end of of what you said about the the intersection is probably not a development condition but is direction to staff direction for staff yeah okay all right clarifications I'm fine thank have a motion second um all those in favor say I I I all opposed like sign nay okay we got it pass 31 um I I did want to say to the residents if you want to petition there is a way to get street lights on your light poles I don't know how that happens but there's a way you can get that done all right that ends the public hearing and we move on to back to uh regular agenda item which is P40 I believe R40 R R40 oh R40 excuse me R40 close the right number the right number right wrong letter indan e who's on first this right

hello everyone before I get started I'm Spencer con the assistant director with Pasco County Animal Services and I feel very blessed to be here today although I've been with the county for over six years uh this the first time I've ever presented in front of the board so I feel blessed to be here take it easy on me but today we're talking about the propos fee schedule update for the animal services department adopting a new fee schedule um the fee schedule SCH sets reasonable fees for services provided to pet owning public uh the fee schedule was last updated in June of 2022 during that time it was some minor adjustments just to cover the cost of medical increases for services that we provide uh the fee schedule update reflects the increased costs associated with the care treatment sterilization of animals as part of our save90 program uh the fees that we're looking at increasing are pet licensing for dogs and cats owner surrender fees boarding fees quarantine boarding fees annual registration cost for those large kennels breeders and pet dealers and a new convenience fee for medications for pets returning to their homes basically in the past we had done allak cart costs for medical things we're looking at one convenient cost for pet owners to get them out the door a lot quicker so as you can see this is current pet licensing cost as of this year as compared to some of our our surrounding counties and our surrounding friends uh these fees have not been increased in over 10 years although cat licensing was introduced in 2017 uh these fees have not been increased in over 10 years and so our proposal is looking at our fiscal year 23 costs and the new cost in fiscal year 24 those would be incremental increases based on the type of animal whether it be a cat or a dog and whether that animal is altered or unaltered whether they're fixed or not fixed this uh graph shows uh based on 2023 sales what the increased Revenue to our organization would be it would be approximately if we were to change this tomorrow approximately an additional 420 $2,000 annually uh for the Department although we are very excited to share the vast majority of that with our friends in the general fund we are more excited uh to have it help our programs as well we're looking at uh various programs like deeper investigations for bites if you guys haven't seen um bites in Pasco County have been on the rise lately and we're looking at um better investigating those helping stray dogs get back to their owners because of more people or animals uh there's a lot of different reasons it's both yeah it's that's a lot of different reasons it's actually both uh as recently as September of 2022 uh there was 130 to 140 bytes in our County every month last month there were 320 bytes in Pasco County so it's almost doubled in the matter of two years um and last but not least as you all know the 100% of cat licensing goes to fixing cats in our community through our snit program so any increase that you all see for that um that cat

licensing it's going to go directly back into those calls that you receive about cats in people's yards which we're excited to take care of as well some other fees that we're looking at increasing are the boarding fees and the quarantine fees these are simply because it is getting more expensive to care for the animals while they're in our shelter these are the fees that are charged to pet owners for picking up their stray animals looking at doubling that uh fee for the application for breeders pet dealers and large kennels as well as their renewal fees every year those costs have gone up and then we are looking at deinen diviz people surrendering their pets to our shelter and so owner surrender fees uh by own by people who are looking to surrender them to our shelter would go up as well and then as you can see next to medication fee for return owner pets there is no fee for that now because once again we were doing allaha cart basically charging people for individual medical costs getting very very complicated when you're figuring out how much you have to charge per pill and so we're looking at a blanket $20 we will help your pet out and give you the medication to go home if it's on any medication while it's in our shelter so our recommendation is approved proposed update to the animal services department fee schedule for services by authorizing the chairman execute the original resolution provided and direct board records to distribute and set forth under the distribution section and I'm happy to answer any any questions from the board Pleasers of the board move to approve I'll second further discussion though okay I got I got a motion second and discussion yeah I don't I don't mind the fees but I don't want to see the money just go to the general fund if you guys are doing projects that you're trying to do so be it build that new building but I'm not um but but I think the money is kind of like an Enterprise should be like an Enterprise fund where you're going to you collect what you need to go yeah if there's a way that we if you find your overal collecting then we come back we take a look at it to go in their new building that they need whatever it may whatever it may be as long as it stays within I don't want to see it just like be abor so typically funds thank you sir so typically funds like animal services are funded out of the municipal Services fund which is backstopped by the general fund so typically we look to like I tell my my children here reduceed the subsidy of mom and dad uh to to run to run your business and so we'll we look at that through the budget process on on what makes sense and and look at the overall health of the general fund and the subsidy that comes into the 104 fund so these fees needed to be raised so presumably that will offset some of the subsidy that the department currently has but we'll we'll certainly look at programs and look at what these fees are intended to unless you know during the budget process the board wants to give some additional guidance on that but I

would suest we take that up at the budget process if that's okay okay good we good any other discussion seeing none I have a motion and a second all those in favor say I I I all oppos like sign motion pass 4 Z thank you at this time we will move to um our miscellaneous business um Mr Whitman thanks thank you Mr chair um so I'd like this I don't know if Branford or whoever is in charge so we had a busted a waterline at 41 uh W call street from l l high school and uh it CED significant damage and we accidents happen uh but it's all in how you respond to those accidents David Allen's here and um it was pretty pretty significant and I just want to commend the contractor and and County staff for working as timely and as quickly as dig dig long day diligently as they can emergency director Andrew fossil was there on board I mean it was all all hands on deck and it was quite impressive by the time we got there uh to visit the site the following day after our meeting at uh starky library for the budget Workshop back filling was taken place hole was about halfway done the red light was stabilized just quite impressive and wanted to say good work and recognize everybody for all of their their efforts there and um so floor is yours oh thank you commissioner waitman and fellow Commissioners um yeah so thank you for that that you know it's it just really demonstrates um our preparedness in terms of responding to those kind of situations I think the one that that happened about a week and a half ago was was significantly larger than we what we typically experience and as such it takes a little bit longer to get things quite back to normal so our goal has always been to really restore the water first and foremost to the customers we were able to minimize that and then just to restore conditions just because of the nature of the damage that we've um had with this particular Break um we're coordinating with fot on the repairs and I think uh you know we're slowly and incrementally getting things back to normal I think the um overall plan will probably take about another two to three weeks to fully get that entire intersection back to where it was before the break but again we thank you for your acknowledgement as staff and and I really appreciate your support absolutely thank you Mike carala any other try picture up right now on it I I appreciate that yeah the um yeah the staff worked tirelessly for those of you that aren't aware that that intersection is actually very critical it's near our interconnect with Tampa Bay water if so if I'm not mistaken there's there's probably an 8 inch a 16 inch and a 30in line under there we're glad he didn't hit the 30in line that would have would have been a very very bad bad bad day I think Sonia here's got a got a couple pictures here that are going to come up on it that just show uh the piece of equipment that actually got taken down

so that guy earned his submarine badge um but we're we're thankful for the utilities team being able to get out there shut the water off and and David I believe we only had uh it was just that shopping plaza in terms of customers that were affected correct yes thank you Mr car carbal yeah we we only had about 20 customers that were out of service um because we were able to isolate the area um and and it was primarily the shopping center where the Dunkin Donuts is and there's kind of a strip mall um on that Southeast corner there and um you know we had to shut off water for the afternoon when this damage happened and you could see the piece of equipment that actually hit our line uh pretty extensive there and it kind of got sucked into the ground there oh wow um and we were able to get temporary service restored to those customers by the next day um and then um we had precautionary boil water notice that then which was subsequently cleared um within a few days after that had occurred and as Mr clarb said this is a very critical intersection because on the other side is the entrance to the Pasco uh County School District and and Pasco County high school as well thank you and I also believe that uh Engineering Services and traffic Ops are working with do too to make sure that the signals and everything there are still safe so we good they didn't hit the 30in line right amen yeah I was just saying that when you were you had stepped away yes sir and and I'd be just lastly I'd be remiss not to mention Public Works in the other County support staff that that helped with us so thank you very much so F fantastic fantastic response to a to somebody's uh bad day and um yeah so next piece I have I'll pass this down and so we talk about you know the amenities and and neat things that happened in the Pasco and so our family we have a camper and I'll pass it down and we go and spend time at Margaritaville over in Auburn Dale and I'm not sure how we go about this but as we look at Sunwest mine in the park and opportunities around for tourist development and then exciting things to do in Pasco um to to see something like a a Margaritaville type RV resort to come in in Northwest Pasco or down in Southwest Pasco it'd be pretty pretty dog on neat we got one coming they' got continued today but it's right but it's there's there's opportunities out in the world and if if P County can make it happen why can't we we're a coastal County and we have pretty blue water and so I figur I'd just share the brochure if you want to take a look at it and see kind of what their model is as we're going through our Economic Development tours and meeting with folks and just bring everybody's attention and get some general General thoughts on maybe we should um Pitch margarita to come to up to the sun west area let's send them a letter matter of fact um at the at the scallop Fest coming up uh one of the people we have up there is like a Jimmy Buffett tribute band oh F so maybe we'll

invite him up for that yeah I've heard nothing but great things about margaretville it's it's fun and uh they do it on a couple of ski Lakes but I think Pasco if we were able to attract you know the Margaritaville Jimmy Buffett brand to Pasco County on our Coast uh we actually have a coast uh I think be just a fantastic draw let's start a petition you know I'll tell you what know they do that for a the the Trader Joe's yeah that's a good idea let's and let's let's let's maybe have the administration drop a letter that we can each each of us sign to say we're in support of you guys coming we welcome you welcome you to come it's it's worth a day trip it's not but from here an hour drive if they'll allow tours to take a look take a look at it but it's I think it was an old blueberry farm that's grown into this and it's it's pretty neat you know I I think we should set that up let's go set up a Day Tour yeah yeah perfect yeah and then lastly I think chair chairman I want you to know I'm running the show fine I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way got that hammer in her hand folks I appreciate my fingers uh and then lastly I believe Cher Oakley probably has pictures but uh to the library team I don't know if anybody's here Sean m Harvey Kathy stepped out but everybody who went to the groundbreaking for the Wesley Chapel Library uh everybody's just so incredibly excited and um great that everybody came and and showed up and chair chair did did a great job kicking us off and I'll leave it to him um well he's gone he's gone oh he left left yeah oh well I'm very upset because I had a lot of stuff that I'm going over but uh hopefully we get this get this thing kicked off and excited to see it come to fruition and uh um you know good work on my predecessor commissioner Moore we got a commissioner wnab be right there and Andy Taylor for working working his way through the budget uh from what I understand and um folks are just so excited so excited to cut the ribbon hopefully everybody can come in what 2025 is when we're thinking 2025 so good work on the library team for a successful kickoff looks like a beautiful day it was a chamber of commerce day for sure that's it okay well I was going next but now that I'm chair I'm last I guess so um commissioner Mariano oh good I see an opening I have to really be on my toes remember everything I want to thank the board today we had uh uh put a sidewalk project together on Ranch Road which I think was critical so I appreciate everyone's support for just letting that fly right through uh Gul Highlands is a upand cominging area as far as between there and Palm Terrace that storm water project is moving along I hear we're getting to Paving coming up starting tomorrow which is going to really help the neighborhood up the PIP pipes are already in uh so it's going to be a great thing and I know I want to thank Mike and Jason and all the storm water team because we had a meeting uh and David Allen as well we we shut down the

pawns for for for the treatment of water at Palm Terrace so they've been dry but we're still in the decommissioning process and we won't be done that till July so it's kind of there's a delay there to we can actually use for storm water but they are looking taking everything along the edge for the spray field that runs along uh near arberdale runs all the way around the whole spray field there there's a lot of land that can be taken where they're going to try to look at minimizing and taking down some of the dirt where water can go in there percolate and actually drain out they're also checking out the other drains so I'm very uh pleased that we have that cooperation and that quickness to to move quickly before storm water season um I'd also like to say that you know I I want I know we I mentioned this last meeting so let me go a little further with it I really want to see us get some signs together for people that are out there panhandling um the ones that come to me and I think if we all if you have them as well Katherine I know you do uh let's let's get these signs made up let's let's take a look at it and bring it back beon woods at Walmart and us19 there's always someone there uh State Road 52 any quadrant there they're out there and recently I just saw one this past week over at Regency in Ridge uh that they hide by the sign so we're hard to see but they're out there and if there's any other any others you guys 19 always 54 Bruce me downs okay so let's get some signers out there so people know as they're coming up they cannot transact business in our RightWay ordinance and there's a fine not only for the person who's accepting but also giving and I think that awareness might help a little bit to dissuade uh the behavior and that's all I have all right who's next I don't have a script Mike Mike I'm good now thank you oh uh je um I would ask um public infrastructure and the county attorney's office have been working on with uh outside Council Bond outside Council and the financial advisor on a liore settlement some of the old Investments of the county um there's a class action um we found that we had some of the qualifying Investments um and I would would like the board to delegate authority to the County Administrator to sign the claim form approval what's the number how much is the claim that I don't know at this point it it's it's a formula of what your what your investment was and whatever minuscule percentage you end up with it maybe a just one square saw second so you need a motion got a motion okay sorry I'm sending pictures of Sonia um okay all in favor I opposed all right thank you that's it okay yes um so I know the board is very passionate about veterans so I thought it'd be a good opportunity to report out on operation standown that was held this last Friday um was this last Friday it was yeah it was this last Friday so it's um you know veterans court and it's a

collected e Collective effort between the courts the state attorney the public defender our office the tax collector's office um and it's organized by one Community now um and we were able to help 26 veterans um and um dealing with 42 separate charges um that um would have potentially had their license suspended um so we with the tax collector coming right out there they were able to reinstate their licenses and help rehabilitate them and um to get them on their way to Rehabilitation um and get them set back up um and and so it was a great event and just thought I'd report out on it thank you all right um I don't know where to go photos first well um Sonia before we can you go to Google Maps and go to the intersection of Mayor and Hazel please so um as I mentioned I did go out to this area I'm not in this area very often but I was pretty surprised at the code violations that I was witnessing so that's perfect um see that house right there um well go go up uh go up mayor please and this is residential I want you to know keep going that's that's a residential lot there on the right and commissioner yeah oh look what's going in as we're sitting there and and okay that's good um it's blocking the sign that says RV and Boat Storage but they're actually storing um all kinds of stuff uh can you can you go back out for a second so I mean Jack is just a humongous Cod violation right there um you can see it right there see it to the right all the stuff they're stor on their residential property um and then go north on mayor and there's another one residential zoning so I hope that maybe uh we can get code up in this area to do sweep but um I think I sent you some pictures Sonia there there's a literally a boat so that's me driving by I meant to get the sign but I didn't um oh there's a boat on the rideway at Hudson and Cobra right near there um and an old decrepit boat no motor just it's on on COBRA it that's on Hudson but do you see the crosswalk there to get to COBRA I know that is yeah I mean it's just sitting there on the right public RightWay South no one's stolen it it's nasty looking but um maybe they're trying to give it away I don't know this is Hudson um they have a continuous junkyard sale apparently but they weren't open today darn um the day I went by but that's not legal either so I would really hope that we can get someone up there to pay attention because that's not fair to the neighbors in the neighborhood um okay um we had a lectures on the lawn at starky TLC and um we had the Tampa zoo up it was wonderful and the the um your kids would have loved it the discussion was um about the manatee rescue but we learned all kinds of stuff about the zoo I I wasn't very good at taking pictures but these are the two girls who go out with fish and wildlife and FWC and get the manatees that are

having issues out on the water so I mean and this is the truck that they transport them in and um it was just a really nice event I think we had 40 50 people there pretty good um so it was very nice instead of calling it lectures on the lawn We Now call it lectures at the ranch which is fun so we'll we'll have more but um maybe one day some of you guys can can attend it but it it's lifelong learning happening at starky TLC all right what what do else do I have up there um oh that's part of the lecture yeah okay and I'm going to go by your photos my order all right so I had my um uh meeting on the anoat River Park we pretty much had standing room only um and we you know we had a group of people who wanted to run the meeting but we wouldn't let them run the meeting and we we had a great meeting I thought Kathy thank you so much for coming and Keith presented and um there were a lot of Voters there and that were happy to hear what we were doing because there there are issues there on a Saturday morning and they they all attested to that of course we had some people who who didn't want anything to happen um but I think the meeting went really well and we got a lot of complimentary emails afterwards so I just want to thank staff for putting this on we were we were a little nervous you can see we had a lot of news news uh channels there um Bay news9 was there and I don't remember who the other one was and then yeah and then one of the other ones came and interviewed us the next day um I don't think we have the letter yet from Mr Overton saying he is we had we had word from his attorney that he was going to get out of the contract but um or whatever the right word is County attorney but terminate yes yeah but um but I don't think we have that yet so I don't know where that's going all right then um then I had my TR Trinity Odessa leadership council meeting back at the starky TLC so I had 16 um folks there from different HOAs and cdds in the Trinity Odessa area um and we had we had just a great meeting um this is David David did a masterful presentation on economic development in the county and um um I got a compliment compliments on that yesterday I can't remember who that was from um oh I know the person from Arista was telling everyone at the aresa picnic how wonderful that was and Michael Cox told me commer Cox called me to tell me that he had heard it was wonderful so we had code you see you see um Chase up there speaking we and then we had um Tina Russo going over Trail the trail that's coming in in the neighborhood and David speaking do was supposed to speak I'm glad they didn't make it because we wouldn't have been able to fit them in but because of the incident that occurred at their offices they were in lockdown and and they weren't able to do anything so all right um Okay I uh last week I toured the new

uh Construction Services building with JP JP if you haven't toured that yet yeah it's wonderful and um they're really doing a great job over there and yesterday we toured the sheriff's two floors um I don't know I thought they was working okay the in the lawyers the lawyers rooms which are on the west southwest corner they were freezing in there but maybe they like it like that I but I am hopeful that you really want lawyers comfortable keeping them awake with that that that big temperature um I do hope that we can work out the access for the uh people who have um ad issues uh and we met with JP and he seems to think that you should be able to get a um mag lock mag lock entrance very easily on the front right door because he thinks the lock is already there up top because we were quoted that it would be $350,000 to to add a an access to the front with a card but I hope someone can get together with JP and maybe find that solution we're working on a solution to that yeah but it looks good over there um there okay there are a couple things that I wanted to let me see if I got all this oh Mr Stein Snider yes ma'am five years to do the RightWay on Mitchell on Wesley Chaple Bard for me that's too long and that wasn't accurate okay um right away it may have been it may have been accurate but it wasn't complete um it was two and a half years for the county attorney's office acquisition and that was after um the plans were modified and we got all the legals and sketches which two years is about right for that that size project for for acquis for taking all that property well two years I'd be okay with but 5 years I'm I'm I'm a little uncomfortable with cuz then the price is going to go up so I don't know if we need to get more attorneys when that's going on or it's or whatever we can't do anything until the permits are final and the and the uh sketches and legals are prepared I can't I can't take somebody's property without knowing what it is well I'd like to see that timeline again okay um okay um yesterday I listened to the Supreme Court uh with which was grants pass the Johnson on homeless camps y'all should listen to it it's first time I've ever listened to the Supreme Court argument I don't know I I'm hoping they give us some tools to help with our issues but I'm not too hopeful after what I heard yesterday so you can uh access that by just going to I went to the US Supreme Court I went to the date and then you can listen to the audio so you know I think it's about an hour or maybe a little longer um um and at amskills um we just we finished a boot camp a couple weeks ago and I just want to thank our utilities department because we had three people out of the 27 that did did not get signed up for interviews two of them were pretty autistic and they they are much harder but one gentleman was a gentleman of of color who had been in prison for 30

years and no one was willing to take a chance on him um but during the closing ceremony and I don't know if any of youve been to one yet we we offer people who want to come up and say something about the program or to anybody or their fellow boot camp teammates if they want to say anything and so this gentleman got up and gave the most wonderful heartfelt speech about his life and how you know he paid his debt and he was so happy to have this opportunity and that if he didn't get a job he just still was so grateful to learn something to meet all the people and feel part of a team and he felt very positive about his life it chokes me up that our utilities department went back and interviewed in and hired him nice so I mean it's beautiful um lastly oh oh I didn't get that picture to you I'm going to talk about this at the next meeting I have a house and I've showed picture you pictures of this house on Flamingo before the one that has all the junk on the trucks they Metal scrappers and they just always have their yard full of junk and this the guy who lost his wife or no that's my hoarder um these are they're from another country and they don't speak English and they they I don't understand what's going on in that house but there's every inch of the front yard is is parked with trucks and I just want to I'm going to take a few pH photos of houses in my district and how many H how many trucks or cars should be allowed to parkk in the front yard of a house I I feel that maybe we need to think about some kind of Regulation um you're not going to believe this when I show you what they do in their in their house it's not it's not fair to their neighborhood and um lastly at some point we're going to have to discuss our food truck ordinance because I don't think I think we have an ordinance that we're not following and if we don't want to follow it um then we need to change our ordinance but we need to have some kind of plan because I'm seeing them pop up everywhere and there's there are a lot of them that are popping up where there's no W way to wash your hand or a restroom they're staying there um on people's property 247 they're starting to set up they're growing they're setting up tents and chairs and they don't come down and so we we've we're letting it get away from us and we we need to have discussion on what's going on okay I think that's it for me okay yes one more thing uh I don't know if they were recognized this morning but uh just want to commend the work that Todd and Paula have done for commissioner Bradford and and and their family uh and and managing his office and in the district uh and the folks at District 4 and um know just commend them for their dedication of uh service to Pasco County to their commissioner and um you know anything that we can do to to help them as we go to next steps that my office and I think all of us are are here for them so best best to both of them yeah um I'm talking about next steps in case people are wondering what the process is I don't know if we've

heard yet if the governor's made a decision but my understanding is be and Jeff maybe you can chime in if I get this wrong my understanding is because um Commission Bradford Ser served less than two years the governor cannot appoint it has to be a a special election or he just lets it go to a regular election I'm sorry can appoint but the term would only be until the next general election yeah okay are you sure because I heard that that only mattered if it was after two years but no he can up the statute says the stat the statute David is right this is what Senator Hooper and Sean told me well I've spoke to the appointment's office yesterday and they said that he can appoint oh he can appoint in fact they gave me the website to file applications for the replacement very interesting okay okay so and Ralph is that what you know as well so we can appoint W the term but the term would be limited to the next general election in November right since so whoever the point person could run the pointed person could run right so I think the misinformation or or the or the Mis the confusion is that what you are saying is true if you're a state official ah the statute on County Commissioners is very clear okay so then but to be clear none of that happens until the governor issues an executive order declaring the seat to be vacant which he has not done that will probably happen sometime in the next week at that point he could start taking applications for the replacement position okay interesting and then but there would still be an an open election for that seat they would have to qualify in June right get through a primary if they have a primary opponent it would three and five yeah yeah okay all right with that we are jined [Music]

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