4.10.24 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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repeater cability and an effective date this comes to you with a recommendation to approve the proposed comprehens of plan Amendment adopt the ordinance by roll call vote we can do a presentation if the board would like okay would the board like to hear a presentation I'm okay I'm good good um so this public hearing is any more we have someone speak to this is that I ask for the public yeah well this this this would be an applicant presentation so or there there should be an applicant for this one it's not County initiated so you call the applicant first and then members okay all right if action would like to come forward name and address for the record uh good afternoon Ann Pollock uh 433 Central Avenue in St Pete representing the applicant uh we're here today uh requesting this comprehensive plan Amendment uh the owner um owns a small HVAC business here in the county and would like to open up a small uh retail Center to sell uh uh parts and and do repairs um he'd like to use the remainder to lease out uh the um the the spaces to other small businesses um small trades neighborhood commercial office and and that sort um we feel that the the application is uh consistent with the comprehensive plan uh the intent of the comp designation is to encourage job creating uses uh m Mr Finley expects he has about four employees now he expects to have to have at least another six to run this business and uh with the addition of the other uh spaces we expect more jobs to come in to this area uh the area is surrounded by uh pastures and residential as well as significant uh commercial uh to the north is 98 which has shops and um other businesses including um uh used car and uh open storage and and other small businesses this will allow for an improved uh development in the area while more fully satisfying the commercial and business needs of the surrounding residents um the applicant is uh working to um work with the neighbor to modify the access uh to the north so that we're not intruding with the the neighbor's access to get out onto 301 and the owner plans to build fencing and buffering um on the rear uh including uh storm water and and that sort in order to provide a good bumper uh the issue that I wanted to raise today is that as part of this uh application uh Planning Commission staff uh I'm sorry longrange planning staff uh requested that we voluntarily agree to a deed restriction limiting uses and providing uh some other um development restrictions as well as the live local act uh deed restriction uh the applicant volunteered to comply uh those uses are not uh planned to be used here um but you know certainly um agreed in order to gain the staff support and uh the county Support of this uh this was presented at the Planning Commission um on this matter we are also going through a contemporaneous

uh resoning request to see2 and we had our Planning Commission meeting last week and at the Planning Commission the plan commission unanimously voted to recommend approval of the rezoning but without the deed restrictions other than live local they they kept that um feeling that it was inappropriate and unnecessary to include the deed restrictions for this owner um in order to comply with the requirements of code and the appropriateness of the um uh the commercial use going forward I don't think that longrange planning staff thinks that um I do think commercial is uh longrange planning staff thinks uh commercial is an appropriate use for this property uh but I did want to raise the issue with regard to the deed restrictions and um we we're of course at the board's pleasure regarding that but I wanted to make you aware of of what sort of the chronology of what had happened with those deed restrictions and with that I'm deed restrictions on this property I'm sorry there deed restrictions on this property there would be as part of these approvals ones that agreed with with staff I'm going I have some questions for staff when about the de restrictions okay staff the staff come back up I don't see comp that's up luch all right Terry question my questions were um wait a minute if I can ask Terry which is the companion resoning on this on this not on this agenda so this wouldn't even be an appropriate the board can have the discussion but it wouldn't it would this is a zoning issue not a comp plan issue that's correct okay oh okay well what's that you can you can you can ask your question I but the but the issue of the deed restrictions and what planning commissioner recommendation is would be an issue that you would take up next the the applicant implied that it they had a companion rezoning which usually means it's on the same agenda it's not um so that'll be back before you at some this the comp plan not this is the comp plan okay I think you had that said that all right well then I have plenty of time to ask you about the restrictions so I I won't bother to okay thank any other questions all right is anyone in the audience here this is public heing anyone in the audience here just speak for this item I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for this item all right CL the board move approval move approve second got a motion in second all those in favor say I this year do need a roll call vote because it's an ordinance oh I need a roll call vote thank you District Two commissioner waitman District three commissioner starky um do you mind ask a question real quick um and I I didn't hear it is there a a multi-use path going up this side of this road little piece of property did they talk about that does that and and maybe this isn't the place to ask that question this Road's being uh redone 8 there's existing pedestrian

infrastructure along the front edge there's a sidewalk my understanding but as you can see from the uh map on the overhead there are a number of trails that are crisscrossing the area that are not yet fully reached into the southern parts of the Ruchi so um but we would talk about that at the rezoning not at this well making sure there's a reservation the resoning would be a ukian resoning so the C2 zoning so uh we would we would not be able to condition them on that resoning but there would there would be discussions about that when they submit for site plans and kind of uh connectivity but they're only a small portion of the 301 Frontage so it's not it's not a it's a 3 Acre Site so it's not a major project I just want to make sure that they know there's probably a multi-use path come on one side of the that road will need to be accommodated that conversation will come up later he said that that we couldn't bring it up later it won't be in your rezoning but they will have that discussion in the site plan stage okay yeah all right okay so I got a motion in a second by roll call vote I'm going to redo it District Two commissioner waitman District three commissioner starky I District Four commissioner Bradford District 5 commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oley I motion pass 4 Z move on to p41 item p41 was published in the Tampa Times on March 6 2024 good afternoon Commissioners Denise Hernandez planning and economic economic growth Department today we're going to go over item p41 which is amendment 68 to the Land Development code today is the first reading on the item the it is scheduled for adoption on April 23rd 2024 at 1:30 in Newport Richie so I'm going to read the title and I'm going to do a presentation on the item this is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development code section 304.8 types of public notice table 3041 required public public notice for development approval applications section 42.1 B zoning amendments ukan submittal requirements section 44.3 D mining operating operating permits application requirements section 44.4 D construction demolition debris disposal facility operating permits application requirements section 44.6 c yard trash processing facilities application requirements section 46.1 point6 permanent signs exempt from obtaining sign permits and temporary signs section 406 5.d RightWay use permit application requirements section 46.8 pointd Garden plan permits application requirements section 51.6 r Mobile Home District yard regulations Section 518 51.8 r Mobile Home District stre streets and Roads section 83.2 listed species impacts to listed and protected species section 91.3 Point e access management access management analysis traffic impact study section 91.3 access management sample management sample problem number one appendix a definitions and other sections as necessary for internal

consistency providing for applicability repealer providing for severability inclusion into Land Development code and effective dat so stated this is Land Development code Amendment 68 these amendments were previewed by the horizonal round table interest interested parties um on February 21st 2024 at that time they were placed also on the Pasco County website so they could take a look at them they were presented to the hor horizontal round table and interested parties meeting on March 20th 2024 and this went to the local planning Agency on March 21st 2024 who found it cons who found it consistent with a comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board so we're going to start by chapter 300 procedures section 304.8 types of public notice again I should mention that these are what we consider minor amendments um uh they're basically uh basically to handle some Legacy issues so in this case uh in the in that section we're moving developments of regional impact as there will never be a new application for development of regional impact we're also removing drri substantial substantial Amendment and OPC removing Dr non-substantial Amendment nopc and NPC from the development order Amendment also it adds a line for County initiated comp plan amendments to con conservation to be published only and County initiated complant amendments other than con to be published and posted only the next section is section 42.1 zoning amendments ukan it removes a requirement to submit a wetland delineation that is way too early in the process to be submitting a wetland delineation uh we still do a um a a distribution to Natural Resources who provides comments but the W Wetland delineation would be submitted at time of site plan next section is 44.3 mining operating permits um application requirements you're going to see this quite a bit throughout we remove traffic traffic impact study as there's no requirement for traffic impact study in our code that was removed many many years ago and we're replacing with tying in phasing analysis pursuant to section 90 1.12 Mr chairman yes sir Denise explain the difference between the two um so perhaps my colleague David Goldstein might be able to um talk about this in a better way than I would because uh we eliminated this is part of eliminating concurrency years ago so there is traffic impact studies doesn't exist the section that traffic impact study was under which is 905 was actually remov from it's actually a rever reserved section so it's no longer in the Land Development code so timing and phasing analysis took took over what a traffic impact study would have done and we may also have uh um subject matter expert colleagues on on the uh on the uh WebEx to answer the question as well okay um Mr chairman as well on section 51.8 height regulations I haven't gotten to that yet I that yeah just give me a few minutes so I'm going to move on and

and whoever on that's on because this is going to come up a few times so whoever is on here who can explain the difference between traffic impact study and timing and phasing analysis if you please chime in I would really appreciate that thank you so again this is again in uh 44.4 construction demolition to Red disposal facilities again strikes traffic impact study doesn't exist replaces it with with time and phasing same in 44.6 yard trash processing facility um replaces traffic impact study with timing and phasing this next section this is a a a mistake that we made when we and I take responsibility for it when we did the sign section that we should have not put window signs and sandwich signs together with signs that have limitations because obviously window signs are there as there is a promotion and that could be more than 15 days more than that and the sandwich style signs that people put outside of their business that's also something that people move in and out throughout the throughout the day or after the store is closed um this is again uh 46.5 ride of way use permits removes traffic impact study and replaces it with timing and phasing same in 46.8 Garden plan permits this is uh getting to this next section that commissioner Mariana was asking about right can we just go back to the previous slide go back a slide just one slide yeah so on the temporary signs um I had a request from a realtor and I know we allowed signs and yards for Real Estate signs to go on but I had a recent request from this person who's sometimes try trying to sell a home they want to put it on a busier road to direct them into to see a home a lot of times you're doing it anyway different real weekends like open house exactly so do we want to allow that as long as they pick up the sign cuz most of them pick up the sign anyway cuz they're not going to waste the money on the sign to just direct them do we want to allow that so that they don't feel that they're breaking the law is that is that written in that's considered an offsite sign and also it's a sign in the right of way and those two things are prohibited in our code the only offsite signs that are prohibited in our code are billboard signs and those you know that you you'll never see a new billboard sign thank you okay no I mean you'll see conversions but you won't see anyone so again knowing it's a violation yeah I don't not sure you want to open that door but I I don't know that any realtor open house sign on the weekend's ever been take look up yeah okay okay uh going to 511 RMH mobile home District um coverage regulations and height regulations so this section of the code was actually silent on the maximum Building height and also silent on lot coverage so we did uh to make it similar to our most dense zoning District we added that lot coverage is a maximum of 65% and we also added similarly to the change that we made a few years ago for residential districts so if you're doing a detached modular

Factory built modular or site built on RMH the maximum height is 45 ft it's consistent with all the other maximum Heights and then for um mobiles and manufactured homes we made that 15 ft I did consult with my colleagues in BCS they had suggested 10 feet but I just um made it a little bit more um open to 15 ft for and that's only for mobiles and manufactured homes all the others uh dwellings would be 45 ft okay so this uh this is this next section 83.2 A impacts to listed species uh removes The Mention Of developments of regional impacts we won't have any new developments of regional impacts and also clarifies that zoning amendments to mpud are the ones that require preliminary habitat assessment this next section again uh removes traffic impact study and uh removes the mention of traffic impact study in the reference in the sample problem number one in that section 91.3 e and then in appendix a definitions we modify the definitions of window signs and temporary signs and um this is just showing the strike through sections in case you wanted to look at any of them specifically and again this is if you would just please take take public comment and there's no action by the board required today this is scheduled for adoption on April 24th 2024 at 130 in Newport Richie and I'm here for any questions that you may have Mr chairman yes um son you can you put up the pictures of the water tower over in Beacon Woods a while ago there was a water tower that was a real isur when uh Kmart went out of business years ago it deteriorated over time um um when U-Haul came in they inquired about being able to put a sign up they were going to try to work with Florida Sports Coast maybe Pasco County do something nice in addition to the sign do you have the the pre- signs where where showed to this lousy condition has it been recently painted or yeah it's been recently painted now but I I think we had some pictures sent over that showed graffiti on it down below it showed even stuff above people were climbing up that thing um that water for the community here no it just it just is just a Remnant piece it's just it's a Remnant piece I don't think it's has any value or any any use oh as far as working so they were contemplating tearing it down or not they thought they could do something good if they painted it so they I think spent probably over $300,000 to go paint it then they go through the process not understanding what might happen uh they go through the process and because our code doesn't allow for this and because of the height of it um they don't allow it to happen um and I'm just wondering if we can take a look at maybe somehow allowing them to do something it's some type of approval process through us because again they spent a lot of money on the sign I mean on on the water tower to make it look really good for the community thinking they could put a sign up there that would be a little bit of U-Haul but something else for the county as well and I'm just

wonder if we want to take a look at we look at that and add that into this to allow something to happen there bring it back to the board so how much did it cost to paint it about $320,000 how much one of the prices was $320,000 to paint it remember you had you had to treat it clean it they get the heights involved yeah so and it looked it looked absolutely terrible I had many many emails and phone calls from my residents coming out asking to do something would ever get painted everybody was happy and then these guys have to spend all the money we like who spent the money for 320,000 for the the the U-Haul place I mean they they rent they put Landscaping in they dressed the whole place up well that what's the problem is right now they have a water tower that was there there W to use it was in terrible shape had a lot of complaints on it they looked at what to do they thought they'd be able to work with us to go do something to make it look better on for advertising for them as well as for us and after they painted it they were then told by staff no you can't do anything yeah that's a that's a billboard water tower billboard it's on site so it's it's not it's not consider but it is but it exceed you are correct exceeds where's the Landscaping yeah but I mean it's not it's not noton wasn't this place Reed to put in landage oh Goa this is an they have this it's been landscap this is an old this is just an old simulated picture what they C since then they put P also it's a nice it looks a lot better now um but again as it detated the reason they said they couldn't do anything was the tower exceeds the height and size of the County's uh Land Development code sign regulations so now's the time before we're going to have take a look at changing it I I bring it the change I I think we should yeah no drive up drive up into Georgia and take a look at what they did to their Sky they got all the scrap up there you can see it for miles it's I I'm not okay with doing that I mean this so this it's okay to paint it I mean I think they should be required to maintain it not let it um be in disrepair is that is that used that Tower it's there it's not it's why don't we require them to take it down probably should be taken down it should be taken down that could be a dangerous should be taken dangerous thing for the neighborhood if the metal is not being painted and maintained have they checked it out to see if it's a safe structure I'm sure they found it to be safe I mean water towers are all over this state and a lot of them have nice things on and say like welcome to so and so say bra and they say all sorts of nice things that could be on that thing they could paint flowers on there or trees but I don't know not advertising in the skylet but I I personally worry that is that what it looks like now no that's what it looked like before they painted

it now okay it now looks shiny saying now it's I just think it's been painting I think it's come down personally so is that part of the we don't allow that to have signs on it so I mean it's been painted do we have something in our code that requires it since it's not in use that it should be taken down we do for our I am not sure it's not being used for a for a water tower so I just don't understand what the you know the use of it is so I think we discussed this a couple of years ago that should be demolished they could sell up the metal for scrap make some money yeah I don't know the answer to that CH go ahead thank oh I just have a Joe DIY song just play and I'll rewind through my head they talking about this water tower a what Joe DIY song I don't know John Deere Green was worth to listen to after this conversation I'm not uh I'm not looking for for making a code that's going to require this company to spend you know to force the company to spend money to take a tower down that they don't have to or really they bought a side it's on there but I'm not looking to make a make the code to where they have to have an unnecessary expense I don't know what that answer is but being forced to tear it down if they're not ready to or the funds aren't there for whatever period of time you know I'm not opposed to them cleaning it up we don't have an awful lot of water towers running around Pasco County like this I'm not necessarily opposed to what commissioner Marian is saying but I just don't want to create the code that creates an additional expense on this business they bought property they've done a great job cleaning it up they took a bled building right and they turned it into something so there's significant investment made there yeah just a business friendly decision is all I'm getting at I mean it it should come down if it's in disrepair though if if it's not then it's fine if it's a hazard take a look at it but if it's not a hazard it's okay then I think it's just recently been painted right it was paint was probably about a year ago a year ago okay but I I wouldn't uh change our sign rules to make that a sign well think of you you might have a thing on there could you say welcome to Florida Sports Co welcome to Pasco County uh on the top part of it to incorporate what they want to try to to get a little bit of well then I I would think we would need to um have someone in our then it becomes a billboard yeah then it becomes a billboard but fact of it is we don't it's not in our code now we don't need to make one where we're going to end up more of these around the county that oh I don't think I was going to build one of anywhere we got we got a lot we got to keep okay we got it okay and this is the first reading we

p443 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on February 21st 2024 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings item p43 is Peg 2476 683 zoning Amendment Crossways mpud Crossways 301 LLC the request is to continue the item to a date uncertain move to continue to a date uncertain second got a motion and second all those in favor say I I motion pass 40 move on to p44 item p44 was published in the Tampa Times on February 21st 2024 p44 is PG 2476 70 7702 sorry zoning Amendment an cloat River Resort mpud master plan unit development the request is to continue the item to the April 23rd 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Newport Richie um I have a question on this why why is this why is this even here this is a Westside issue I believe it had been continued uh to this date um so that I believe that's the answer to that that it had to continue to the state so we're now continue it to the 23rd quick question Mr chairman yes so this is still continuing forward this is the this is the camp this is the fish yes it's incorporating some acreage into that that area into the mpud move to continue time certain second second got a motion and second all those in favor say I I I I uh motion pass 4 Z move on to p45 item p45 was published in the Tampa Times on March 6 2024 p45 is Peg 24771 two zoning Amendment KD 52 mpud master plan unit development landco liquidating company LLC and others the request is to continue the item to the May 7th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in dat cting move to continue time certain second got a motion and second all those in favor say I I I I motion pass 4 Z move on to p46 item p46 was published in the Tampa Times on March 20th 2024 p46 is Peg 24772 6 zoning Amendment the name of Cherry Hills West MV Master planning of development Veterans of Foreign Wars of us major Francis e Dade post 4283 and others the request is to continue the item to the May 7th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in D City move to continue time sh second got a motion in a second all those in favor say I I I motion pass 40 move on to p47 item p47 was published in stampa times on November 22nd 2023 the item was continued from the January 9th 2024 BCC meeting to the February 20th 2024 BCC meeting where it was continued to today item p47 is Peg 2477 37 it's a zoning amendment in the name of orange State mpud master plan unit development orange State Enterprises Inc the request is to continue the item to the May 7th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in dat City mve to continue time Shon second got a motion and second to be continued um all those in favor say I I I motion pass 40 move on to p48 item p48 was published in the Tempe times on February 21st 2024 item p48 is pg2 24777 5 it's a zoning Amendment the names of Thomas Lee and Kimberly and samon the request is to

continue the item to the April 23rd 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Newport riching move to continue time certain second motion second all those in favor say I I I Mr move on to p56 please uh okay p56 item p56 was published in the Tampa Times on February 21st 2024 excuse me item p56 is peg2 24771 18 it's a zoning amendment in the name of Circle K at New State rout 52 in proect MP steam fruit LLC steam fruit LLC it's for resoning from an AR agricultural residential district to an mpud to allow for 11,330 Ft of non-residential entitlements on approximately 3.63 Acres the request is to continue the item to the April 23rd 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Newport Richie um if you would please call for public comment because it was not advertised as a continuance on this item there there have been expart communication with commissioner Mariano and commissioner waitman and those have been uh submitted to the clerk's office but to the extent that they have not they will be after today's meeting yes sir Denise I know David will take one last look the watching Planning Commission uh and after public comment I think it's time to bring this Elevate this decision up to our level and bring this thing in for a landing what is this David Engel planning and economic growth director uh thank you commissioner waitman we we asked the applicant to come in and do some refinement and tweaking regarding their landscaping and and some of the pump orientation and we feel confident we'll have a resolution and be back on the 23rd with a consent agenda item than you appreciate the third thank um I did want to say I had a meeting with them so I should be on the expert there should be an exp parte with me too okay thank you commissioner starky we'll get that from your legislative aid but thank you um that it's on the record thank you and for the record I've met with him twice I don't remember how many times yeah once I think once or twice yeah we've all met with them so okay thank you so we we'll look for yours commissioner Oakley as well thank you so much for letting us go Okay so I need a motion no Mr chairman if if you would call for public comment for anyone who cannot be at the April 23rd uh bard of County Commissioners hearing at 1:30 in Newport Richie is there anyone here wish to speak to this item that cannot be at the continued meeting time Mr chair I have no one signed up signed up and no one on WebEx for this item Mo to continue time certain second so I got a motion in a second all those in favor say I I I I motion pass 40 uh we go to next 57 is that P57 okay item P57 was published in the Tampa Times on March March 20th 2024 and August 23rd 2023 and by affidavits of

certified mailings and site postings this item was continued from the October 10th 2023 BCC meeting to the November 14th 2023 BCC meeting it was then continued to the January 9th 24 BCC meeting where it was continued to today thank you um item P57 is peg2 24 cuu 02 there have been um 15 expar Communications with all Commissioners uh since um April 8th so they did not make the agenda packet those have been provided to the clerk's office additionally there's exp partes with commissioner starky commissioner Mariano commissioner Oakley and commissioner waitman and those have also been um um submitted to the clerk's office as well and that item is pg24 cu2 pasal Land and Cattle Company LLC Skyway to Towers Verizon Wireless for a 155 ft above ground level monopine wireless communication facility in an ar1 agricultural residential district um the request is to continue the item to the June 4th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Dade City and if you would please take public comment on the continuous request Mr chairman yes sir um I'm not sure that there's need to take public comment on this one because it was supposed to have been a closed public hearing um however um this is the one I discussed in public comment this morning I would strongly advise that this be read vertis and that you have a full public hearing on it based on the um exp parte based on the EXP parte Communications that occurred after the public hearing was closed um so I think just a motion to continue would be fine for this one move to continue time I the attorney answered my question pretty much so oh okay all I got a motion a second to continue uh and that's being continued till June 4th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in dat City okay thank you all right thank you all those in favor say I I motion pass 40 okay now we go where 58 we're doing 58 yes are we going to continue this we are we are going to continue it item p58 was published in the Tamp Bay Times on March 133 2024 the item was continued for March 26 2024 BCC meeting to today so item p58 is CAO 24 um 3501 sorry it says resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida pursuant to section 1961 9783 or 0 Florida Statutes electing not to exempt property under Section 1961 1978 3D 1 Point a Florida Statutes commonly known as a live local act property tax exemption the request is to continue the item to the May 7 2024 board County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in D City and the reason for that is because as I understand that the governor has not signed the bill into law yet move to contined time certain got a motion so move move to uh I got a motion second a second sorry okay a motion second all those in favor say I I I motion pass 4 Z now going to go back to p49 go back to p49 yes okay so item p49 was published in Tampa Times on November

1st 2023 that was continued from the January 9th 2024 BCC meeting to Fe 6 2024 BCC meeting it was then continued to March 12th 2024 BCC meeting where it was continued to today all right item p49 um that one we have EX pares for commissioner with commissioner Oakley and commissioner waitman and to the extent that they have not made it to the clerk's office we will get those over to the clerk's office so that is item peg2 24 7708 it's zoning Amendment St Leo Commons B MP Rd pd5 LLC a resoning request for from AC agricultural District to an MPD master plan unit development to allow for 796 dwelling units and 75,000 ft of non-residential uses on approximately 101 Acres um comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet from both the Pasadena Hills planning and policy committee and um the planning and economic growth Department uh there is is a specific condition related to the Liv local act um and that is condition number 80 in your conditions of approval okay um I'm pretty sure I met with them as well so there should be an experte for me I'm checking with my staff why these aren't going in I would think you have been talk to about it so Commissioners I know you're in the middle of a public hearing but if if it's okay with you would you please ask for your legislative um staff to or team to please send all the EXP partes over my way because then I will forward them to the appropriate team members yeah thank the reason you're talking about that today is because you're not getting them well there have been two so far that it appears that I have not received I know I met yeah that's that's kind of strange CU I've been there eight years we've been sending those out thank you I've met with them as well yeah so it's strange but we'll check with our assistant to make sure that's done okay um this is a public hearing this is not the consent item um I do not have anyone signed up for this item and no one is on WebEx for this item oh okay so is anyone here to speak against this item well I I'd like a presentation do what now she wants it pulled off the consent agenda and wants a presentation okay pull p49 off we'll come back to it go to p50 going on with these little things up here she's a court reporter she was recording that was recording rep recording that one and she's just taking her stuff she was here for another item it was on P57 I think I thought she came and got she got part of it she got her part so item p50 was published in Tampa Times on February 21st 2024 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings item p50 is Peg 24 7743 it's a zoning Amendment Serene preserve mpud master plan unit development EC Willow Bend LLC spr resoning from an ER estate residential district to an mpud master plan unit development District to allow the development of 37 single family detached homes on approximately 26.6

Acres comes here with a recommend recommendation of approval with conditions as including included in your agenda packet from the planning and economic growth department and from the Planning Commission okay is there anyone from the public wish to speak to against this item I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx okay let it remain on consent move to P51 item P51 was published Tampa Times on February 21st 2024 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings item P51 is Peg 24776 zoning Amendment new Clinton LLC for change zoning from an AC agricultural district and R2 low density residential district to an mf1 multiple family medium density district with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction to limit the use to a total of 105 town homes and also um the the use the similar it it's actually Incorporated in the items that may be incorporated into a ukan zoning in a deed restriction for PM 26 those are have that have all been incorporated into the voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction on this item there are expart Communications with commissioner Mariano commissioner starky and commissioner waitman this comes to with a recommendation of approval from the Passad Hill planning and policy committee and from the planning and economic growth Department okay is uh is there anyone this public hearing is anyone here to speak against this item I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for this item and I see no one coming forward so leave it on consent I have a qu I'm sorry I I have a quick question for this applicant and actually for the one before p50 so can't keep on consent sorry well but they won't be long question you are I understand but the fact of it is these are all on consent because there's no opposition to them right and that's why they're on consent I right but I have a very quick question but it seems like the last couple meetings you've been asking for them to be pulled off yes so you can talk about them but yes I would ask you that before look at her consent item so you go over them before we get here it's it just helps and moving the time okay okay so we'll uh since you have question um with 50 51 have well you already we've already put it on consent on 50 I know now you have so F put 51 over to the side then let's move forward to the next consent item of 52 chair we pull 50 and 51 yes it's a very quick question she's got a question so we've already moved for but okay pull both of them move on to p52 item p52 was published in the Tampa Times on January 24th 2024 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings the item was continued from the March 12th 2024 BCC meeting to today item p52 is Peg 24776 5 it's a zoning Amendment Dempsey and daughters Inc Dempsey and daughters for a change in zoning from an R2 low density residential district and a C2 General commercial District to a C2 General

commercial district with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction related to the live local act comes you with a recommendation of approval from the planning and and economic growth department and the Planning Commission okay this is a public hearing is anyone here in the audience wish to speak against this item I have no one signed up for this item and no one on WebEx okay yes I I'm okay with leaving this on consent for commercial zoning I just want to go on record that I I really hope this doesn't become a car wash I'm just going to say that leaving it on consent I'm leaving on okay no one speak against it and leave it on consent move on to p53 item p53 was published in the Tay times on February 21st 2024 on p53 this is um the adoption for your I'm sorry this is your Omnibus Amendment um this is we are asking on this item that you transmit it to Florida commerce and other reviewing agencies I'll read the title it's peg2 24001 1 it's comprehensive plan Amendment CPA 2212 it's an Omnibus text Amendment providing for transmitt of the comprehensive plan text amendments to the Future land use element pertaining to Industrial compatibility adjacent to Wetlands commercial infield development and Commercial location limitations providing for text amendments to Future land use element appendix sections flu A4 calculations of residential densities and flu A6 the official land use map providing for text amendments the conservation element pertaining to Industrial compatibility adjacent to Wetlands we ask that you uh trans take public comment and authorize the transmitt of the amendment to the Department of Commerce and other reviewing agencies okay this is a a public meeting on this item um is anyone here to speak against this item Mr chair I have no one signed up and no one on web ads okay seeing no one coming forward leav it on consent move on to p54 p54 is being pull there's someone here to speak on that item so if we can move on to p55 I also have someone signed up but I don't know if they're in opposition I believe they may have left but um we can we can double check okay um item p55 was published in Tampa Times on March 20th 2024 item p55 is Peg 24289 it's a drri development of regional impact recision is to uh it's River Ridge drri Development of regional impact NG Development Corporation it's a request to resend the resend the River Ridge drri number 074 located generally north of to cubis and east of little road um we're asking that you approve the recision okay did we do 54 um we asked for it to be pulled because there's someone here in oh it's pulled okay I didn't even I didn't hear that part sorry about that okay all right so we're on 55 is anyone here to speak against this item I have three people signed up um Mr chair I don't know if they're here to speak against are you here to speak against it or if you're here to speak

against it come forward if not it'll stay on consent seeing no one come forward um that concludes your consent agenda that concludes the consent agenda and move approval the consent agenda okay got a motion second to approve consent agenda all those favor say I I I pass 4 Z now let's go back we pulled um 49 P 49 so we want to take each one of them as we we got p49 p50 P-51 M 54 and that's it okay good afternoon Gavin Kobi playing in economic growth um I know we asked for a presentation speak in the mic I can't hear you I'm so sorry can you hear me a little bit better now yes sorry do we want a full presentation or is there some questions I can answer for you just that um I think I've worked on this one a bit with the applicant is she here yes they're here so um uh we did a layout right um I want that layout to be binding and if it's not it's not in here anywhere nowhere does it talk about that that I can see I I was trying to see the updated um plan and I all I see is um colors but no no layout site plan whatever whatever Mr chairman commissioner starky Clark hobby hobby and hobby PA 109 North bre Street Tampa Florida have been sworn uh commissioner starky we don't have enough on this particular project to make the site plan binding but what we did do and what you saw uh the reason why that's relevant in this one is we've basically created about five pages of conditions to force the form of development to meet that style I'll give you just a few examples and I can go through a bunch of these if we need to but we have to meet the mutum block okay cuz I don't have any of that in here it it's in our conditions of approval there which I didn't get oh you didn't get our conditions well christe's telling me condition 58 just just so you know we have a mutum requirement for Block sizing and no gating that's one of the ones that we have so you don't have the conditions at all no I don't that's why I wanted to presentation conditions of approval are exhibits a b and c in your agenda okay maybe my sta print it out but I I I I would assure you it's 23 Pages yeah we've spent four months creating the conditions to get what you want out of it and and I'll just give you just a few of them I won't bore the commission but you must have vertically mix use buildings we created we used the most Urban crosssection and vop for the entry Road off of curly we then required certain buildings up off of that road and just to give you a sense of what we're dealing with the sidewalks are 17 ft wide on this crosssection with on street parking so we've created about a page and a half of regulations if there is any gas station or if there is any uh uh Car Wash we're following the standards that staff is proposing on that and the ordinance that's going to be coming before you so we've worked a lot with Gavin Terry and

David on this to implement that can I ask you on when you say the sidewalk is 17 feet wide you mean there is enough space so that they can have outdoor seating and all that yes yeah it's called a sidewalk area and the typical I believe is 56 AA or something like that and it basically what it does is it puts the buildings up on the edge of the curve then you have 17 ft of patio and sidewalk area and then it goes directly to on street parking I wanted the other Commission to kind of hear what you've done to make this a great corner for for that area so um and I think that from what you first showed us to where you ended up is so much better and that's why I wanted the public to see it I I I know this going to seem self- serving but I'll give our client credit on this one christe and I told our client that in our opinion this is the most important corner for everything going into vop and it has to be done right and so staff worked us over to be sure we spent many hours you know discussing these conditions but our client ultimately agreed to all these design standards so we're making sure it's being done the right way yeah so we understand and we appr I went I went over this project I think yesterday yes sir I think and a very good project it looks very nice it's so much better than SE talking about it's a good project yeah it's the corner of uh M curly curlyy and McKay northeast corner so it's got a little kind of town center in a way got a urban edge with like a town center and and and non-gated grid style uh mixed juice uh multif family area behind it yeah right cuz they you know they're not you can't expect us to read 26 pages of of conditions for us to really understand what we're voting on so for send it a picture sends a th000 words and if we just had the picture is the picture in here uh it's in one of the exhibits in the presentation but it's not in the MPD conditions itself no okay well that they've actually got on this corner they've got an actual road going in between the retail commercial and it really fits in and it's very walkable for the people that are be living there also it's a great Improvement oh were you was someone getting ready to show something let's show it oh no I want picture we don't need to go to the condition I think we're okay we don't need to 23 pages I hope you're not putting a gas station on that corner I don't know that we're going to but if we do be right up against the urban Edge and walkable on the side yeah he's got the gas station that's all you need okay all right anyway we're good I think I need a I need a motion on this item did you take public comment oh there we go is there any public comment U on this item I have no one signed up for p49 and no one on WebEx okay none pleasure of the board Mo approval second got a motion second all those in favor say I I I motion pass 4 Z move on to p50 all right I have a quick qu question I don't need a whole presentation

um um I listened to the Planning Commission meeting I just have a question of the applicant and and and I guess I have a question of Staff uh on Willow B Parkway I just pulled it up on my map is that um right now it's a two-lane non- mountable curb road but it looks like we have land is that is that road going to be a four lane road eventually I can answer that question okay Barbara will height 6327 Grand Boulevard Newport Richie 34652 when I was Chief assistant County attorney here you did a permit with Swift Mud for four lane road it was contested my only DOA hearing I ever have done in my life into what I was doing I had to wr's testimony I had to write Greg Risky's testimony but you've been sworn at J barar I've been sworn at okay thanks that road pered as a four-lane road we did all the permit you guys did all your impacts for four lanes you mitigated your Wetlands for four lanes I know that's like a long answer to a short question but I thought it was interesting history about that road so so it will be forlane one day whenever you all ready to do it but you have the permit because I went and fought for the permit I hope there'll be a multi-use or a wider sidewalk whatever we have we are giving 10 additional feed even though I think we could have made the case that the all the RightWay is there but we're giving 10 additional feed um so I listened to the Planning Commission meeting but I couldn't give it my full attention because I was doing other things at the time and um I heard that you're going to be putting up a fence we were we were asked to do a wall because when you go down Willow Bend Parkway all the Willow Bend is Walled so the thought was to have this consistent instead of doing a PVC fence we committed to do the wall is it a brick wall or a it is a masonary wall I'm not it's a pre it can be preast but it's still ornamental but it's okay so my question is and I've had this discussion with br and I don't know when it applies if it doesn't apply but simple question are you going to be putting Landscaping in front of that wall yes okay that's my question move to approve second did you take do you have to take public com uh has anyone wish to speak to this item Mr chair I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for this item and I see no one coming forward so we have a motion Mo to approve second chair okay motion and second all those in favor to say I hi motion pass 40 Mo on to P51 and I have a very quick question on this one too and I don't remember if I asked it when I had my meeting with this app and um you don't have to do the whole presentation I just wanted to ask the applicant I don't think they're doing are they doing rear loaded it is not in the deed restriction this is a ukan rezoning uh so we don't get too in depth with that at at this time so if the backyards are facing saying Clinton are we putting a fence or a wall cuz I don't think we want the back yards exposed to Clinton it's my

guess thank you Shelley Johnson 6400 Madison Street and I have been sworn um we the conditions will require what we do whatever the Landscaping code requires along that RightWay but if there's a request that we put up a wall or a fence I don't think that the applicant has an issue with that at all well commissioner this is your District you know it better than me but don't do you think there should be a masonary wall if it's rear if it's not so front Lo I'm looking at a different picture they had the old picture up now where is this located on Clinton Clinton Avenue oh it's uh across from the Waller property yeah the Waller proper yep exactly it's right across there and so the back side of that is against homes on the back side there's a buffer back there yeah how much buffer um I don't know what the natural buffer is but it'll be if it's residential back there it'll be what 10t or do you have to do buffer to residential residential I guess you don't even have to buffer residential to residential but um they'll be doing whatever the landscape code requires whether something that's to be along Clinton do these houses back up to Clinton they'll the frontage is on Clinton that's the insurance is off of Clinton yeah they'll be pulling that's where the front of the property will be fronting Clinton well okay I think that we could say maybe if if their if the houses are rear loaded and the fronts are on Clinton there does not need to be a fence if that the houses are front loaded and the rears are on Clinton I feel like there should be a masonary wall not a PVC fence a decorative masonary wall of some sort with the Landscaping I I agree with commissioner cor on that ch okay let's hear what yeah he was saying that all of the ones on Clinton will be facing the road so they're rear loaded yes okay well then that's fine it's great be right on the trail the kids can have lemonade stands make L money the the houses will be but there will be no the entry for these houses be in the rear right yes that the front the on Clinton Avenue those will be all rear loads because the front the front of the houses will be the front of the Town Homes will be facing Clinton all right and that that'll look very nice okay yeah I just didn't ask that question when I was with you guys public hearing public hearing so is anyone wish to speak against this or for this not necessary for against it I have no one signed up for P51 and no one on WebEx okay move approval got a motion and second all those in favor say I I I motion pass 4 Z move on to p54 item p54 was published in the Tampa Times on February 21st 2024 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings good afternoon Amy tol with planning and economic growth the item before you is uh peg2 24-12 it is a comprehensive plan amendment in the name of CPA 2311 sander

Ben so the item before you is a comprehensive plan Amendment it is a large scale Amendment um currently the future land use is AG agricultural the applicant is proposing a future land use amendment to AGR agricultural rule to develop 18 single family residential homes uh which equate to approximately five acre lots on around uh 92.6 Acres subject sites located northwest corner of Johnston Road and Bellamy brothers Boulevard there is an accompanying uh rezoning petition that will follow the plan Amendment here is a vis visual representation of where it's located in the North Market area uh here is our transportation map as denoted it is located on Bellamy brothers Road um with the 52 uh State Road 52 to the South approximately 5.75 miles the context map here is to highlight the proximity to the rural areas um so as you can see it is located in rural area 2 which is your rural transition area um so on the west side of Bellamy brothers rural area 2 on the east side of Bellamy brothers is going to be your rural area one the Northeast rural area what this visual is showing is um the different green shades are your agricultural zoning districts um currently it is AG so the light colored is your AG agricultural zoning District or I'm sorry future land use um the darker green is going to be your AGR so it does highlight within proximity that the area does take into consideration both Ag and AGR land use classifications in the area it is important to note too that this is the rural area 2 rural area 2 is your rural transition area which is intended to be a transition from your rural area one Northeast rule um the context of that meaning the Northeast rule area allows for density between AG AGR and a res one um rural transition area is intended to transition from that therefore the AG and the AGR in the rural transition area is an appropriate transition from rural area 1 into rural area 2 so your existing future land use being AG your proposed future land men us being AGR your existing zoning district is AC and these are the following policies that the proposed amendment is consistent with and with that we recommend uh authorization of the transmittal of this project or this package to the Department of Commerce and other reviewing agencies um I can answer any questions if necessary I also have the project planner here to answer those questions as well and I I can add on this um this particular property has got a hard Road right down the middle of it um very wide very good hard road and these lot these 5 acre lots have come off that hard road so on the property yeah thank you uh this is a public hearing so uh oh applicant come forward um I hope there's a next parte because I did meet with the appli she didn't say so Cindy ter pany representing the the applicant I don't I defer to your attorney but I believe a

exp parte disclosure wouldn't be required this is a legislative matter not a quas Judicial that's correct okay thank but we require we we asked them to do it for everything so it's Neer yes but you're right it doesn't thank you I just want to double check I wasn't losing my mind and having forgotten something basic to uh my understanding of planning U my name is Cindy terany address is 128 East Tarpon Avenue and Tarpon Springs with terany planning strategies I represent the property owner who is also the applicant for this plan Amendment and ma'am you've been sworn yes ma'am I have been sworn legislative oh thank you uh as the staff stated this is a plan amendment is a request from one agricultural plan category to another agricultural plan category the the intent of those two categories the existing category and the proposed are very similar they both suggest a u the intent to maintain the agricultural character of the area and to minimize infrastructure public infrastructure the primary difference and that's why we're here today is the size of the lot in the current plan category it's a lot size of 10 acres the proposed is a minimum lot size of five acres so on this 92 Acre Site it's a difference between nine lots that we could do today and 18 lots that we could do if you so approve the plan Amendment there are two homes existing on the property today um one was the original Homestead um and that's been renovated by U my client the property owner the second home is a newer home and it's in pretty good shape both homes are planed to remain on the site um the lot layout as uh chairman Oakley alluded to um we've done a conceptual lot layout that does not obviously accompany the plan Amendment but just to uh show to you and to the staff um it can accommodate 18 Lots the two homes um can be accommodated on their lot meeting the lot size and the setbacks and with the new lots that would be added to it um the proposed change was so di Minimus with regard to traffic that your staff did not even require traffic study obviously we're only adding nine single family um homes to the property the site is in the rural transition area and I think that's an important thing to do this is what we are proposing that transition so that the the urban scale development that you have all along has been approved all along that 52 Corridor with 8,000 residential units and and hundreds of thousands of commercial and office development um will uh is is to our South along that Corridor extends pretty far north of 52 as you're well aware um to the east is the Northeast rural area so at 5 acre lots we are that transition between the urban scale you have along 52 and the Northeast Pasco area to the East and in fact one of the residents of the Northeast Pasco rural area stated at the Planning Commission public arean that this is exactly what they were looking for in the rural transition area and was in support of our application we are going to preserve the agricultural rural land with no

extensions of sewer and water no impacts on public services little impacts no impacts on on natural resources I just one correction to the agenda memo the amount of wetlands on the site is point about a third of an acre um slightly less than this is listed in the report um and it meets the other criteria of the plan amendments we do know that we have right away to be reserved along belly Brothers Boulevard and that'll be accomplished during the site plan process your staff has recommended approval and the Planning Commission also recommended approval at their hearing in March um i' respectfully request your approval and i' be happy to answer your questions okay any questions for the applicant I'm other this public hearing is uh is there anyone here to uh speak against this item Mr chair I have one individual signed up Daniel riderman are you here to speak against it or for it you're in a full you pulled it off consent it's either way oh so you P okay come forward we'll let you speak anyway thank you Daniel rman 27131 Johnston Road Dade City um after speaking with members been SW doesn't need he doesn't need to be oh he doesn't need to be okay that's it all right thank you um after speaking with a couple of members of the County Planning Department um we do have many concerns about this um but as I understand it this is not the right venue to express those concerns um and for that reason for the most part I'm going to table my concerns until the June 4th meeting um the the representative recently made a comment though about the environmental impact I would like it noted that um on the area that I own that property is right across from the proposed property and uh it is a dedicated Wetland area it's a low-line wetland area there are some grade considerations for this property that the applicant um is requesting this change for um and when we consider capping off some of these Sandy absorbent pasture lands with hard surfaces uh that will certainly impact that Wetland area directly across from Bellamy brothers um the other issue is I just like it um on record that just to add emphasis to the comments that I made at last month's meeting uh my neighbors and I including the fal are um you know very much opposed to this on the grounds that it the the density that's being requested is very out of character um with the surrounding area and I understand this is what's described as a transition zone in the master plan don't fully uh understand that or um you know probably appreciate that as just a normal property owner because if you live there you spend any time there there's nothing transitory about this area uh for as far south on Bellamy brothers until you hit 52 it's either um horse farms or pasture land you can go as far north on Bellamy to Powell it's horse farms and pasturel land you can go east on Johnston until you get to the mobile home park it's horse farms and pasture

land so um I just wanted that on record and um I'll be back at the next meeting thank you very much all right thank you okay uh just s War's aware that a 5 acre uh one house for 5 acres is a transition over rule acreage so I live on that other people live on the same thing in in this area so there are large ranchers out in the same area so just so you know so all right pleasure of the board approve did you close public comment call for public comment again okay is anyone else here wish to speak to the side I have no one else signed up and no one on WebEx okay seeing no one coming forward who appr second got a motion in a second yeah I I I think 5 acres is a good transition from one to the other okay so I got a motion in a second all those in favor say I I I motion passed 40 that ends the public hearing part of our meeting today and we'll move back to uh regular item uh P38 all right you're right move R38 R3 R38 okay this is when you're ready okay good afternoon Commissioners Christina cordone assistant director parks recreation and natural resources I'm I'm going to pinch hit here for Mr Keith Wy who couldn't be here today so um I'm here um to present a uh Capital maintenance mstu for the parks department so during the fiscal year 25 budget Workshop uh our department received um recommendation to present a capital maintenance mstu for Parks so this is what I'm here um to do today a little bit a little bit of History um and 2016 the board approved our Parks master plan and that Master Plan identified $14.1 million in deferred maintenance $22 million in improvements that needed to occur in existing um Park facilities and $185 million uh to New Capital maintenance projects or capital projects um in 2018 we went out for the go Bond referendum the uh General obligation Bond so the public approved 22 million um for Parks deferred maintenance that was a ballot initiative and it passed by 73% margin that funding source uh is not a recurring funding source it was for one-time Capital maintenance projects um last year the board approved the increase to the park impact fee so that increase went from approximately $900 per single family dwelling and um 627 for multif family to$ 3,450 um per dwelling unit cost that fee increase was approved under a plan-based approach so there's approximately 19 projects that are going to be occurring countywide um for a total of a for a total of about 267 million and that's anticipated to be completed um by 2045 um these projects are essential to maintaining our level of service standards um that is outlined by the comprehensive master plan as the population of the county continues to grow um the parks master plan that was adopted in 2016 um did not contemplate a long-term um operation it didn't contemplate the long-term operation maintenance uh needs for our existing and our proposed

facilities so um on this slide you'll see this is currently what our department manages so 23 active Parks 14 par uh passive Parks W complexes Community Center swimming pools athletic fields boat Rams multi-use Trails conservation land park land we have approximately 200 employees um 180 seasonal positions that are coming here soon um to help us with summer camp and and all of our summer activities uh weekly monthly annual programming we also do community events and special events and so to kind of manage and oversee all that this is currently our operating and maintenance budget um I think I went one over maybe um so during the um fy22 uh we received $1 million for non- Capital Improvement projects so that amount was added to our operating um our operating budget um B based on that information um our department compared to the size of other jurisdictions across the nation compared to the National Recreation the National Parks and Recreation Association um we've been able to establish a benchmark of about $58 per capita um currently with our $22 million budget we have about $31 per capita for operating and maintenance um the go bond that was approved in 2018 um that funding is either going to be expens Ed or encumbered by the end of this fiscal year so starting in uh fiscal year 25 the parks department does not have any funding for Capital maintenance um so um our department has created a um a standard asset replacement schedule so we have 20e plans for all of our facilities um when you add all of our amenities that we have that and and when we need to replace them that's on average about $8.2 million um that we need a funding every year to upkeep with the replacement of our um capital projects so some of the capital maintenance examples that we need are replacing playgrounds rep replacing fencing repairing irrigation doing Park Renovations things uh of that nature um so we are here um basically to recommend um that we have a dedicated Capital maintenance mstu for Park um if we are to do the $8.2 million that equates to about. 1768 millage so about $27 um for an average taxable househ home value of1 150,000 um as I mentioned with our 20-year plans what we've done is we've taken the asset value of all of our amenities and Parks so we estimate approximately 500 to 700 um million doll in asset value so um if this dedicated capital mstu for maintenance is um established what we're asking for results approximately 1.64% um the of the replacement value the standard business practice is about 2 to 5% for the replacement value of all the assets that you have so um for a quick reference for our execution um the 2018 uh General obligation Bond we've done an annual um execution of expenditures of about $3.6 million um so these are some examples of projects that could be completed with a capital maintenance mstu these are projects that we were able to complete

with a general obligation Bond so this is the lake Lisa playground this is what it looked like before um it got replaced um this is what it currently looks like now little bit different that's awesome that's good yeah um this is Strickland Boardwalk on the North End um on the left side you'll see what it used to look like what it currently looks like today mhm very nice uh the cruise Lake Tower uh this is what it currently looks like today and with the cruise Lake Tower we did add a sidewalk leading to it so that way it' be accessible by all nice good it's a beautiful view up there yes um this is the Land of Lakes fishing dock that's in the back part of the of uh the park this is what it currently looks like today um and this is the sari Wilderness Park the resurfacing of the multi-use trail we don't have a before picture but this is what the uh Trail looks like after it was resurfaced and I've written it as it's fabulous with obligation bonds I've rollerbladed it a lot um so this is an example of what the potential millage rate could be for a dedicated Capital maintenance mstu for Parks um based on the total budget amount um what each um taxable household value would be um um so um one of the benefits for the parks department to have a dedicated mstu is that it will allow us to address the future maintenance needs of um as the basically the county population and the tax space grows um it will also reduce the future needs for the park maintenance to be coming out of the general fund um and in addition it'll remove competition with the public services Branch for new funding through the bpis for the general fund So currently for the FY 25 budget we have approximately $2 million in bpis that we are requesting that could come out uh out of that list and go into a Parks um Capital maintenance mstu so the next step potentially could be for the parks department to prepare an mstu ordinance for BCC consideration then set an mstu assessment and then the mstu would be included within the standard fiscal year 25 County budget approval timeline um so in conclusion um we're basically here to receive guidance from you guys on how we address the capital maintenance needs for the parks department Mr chairman okay yes I have been waiting for this day for a couple years um I've been asking and asking for this this um you know I can show you pictures of starky uh starky Regional Park or whatever we call that um where the grass now in the fields is gone because such overuse because we don't have enough and um Christina ppatrick sent me the photos because her kids were out there playing soccer and she said it was almost at dangerous levels that the kids are going to twist their ankles because they've overused overloved the soccer field so um I know that we have a little league um Charter in starky ranch that I know Keith asked them not to Charter it because we don't have fields for them they're going to be in your District No in Bradford's

District um in Bexley but we don't have the money to build it yet um so the last time we added a little leagues complex holiday wreck mhm yes ma'am in the 80s yeah so we are way behind um on on getting these projects out of the ground and and the mainten and then we need to maintain it I can tell you that the trail going up starky Boulevard which is part of the Coast to Coast Trail it needs to be repaved but when I came when I came on board as County Commissioner in 16 we were 20 years behind on maintenance for all parks I don't think and that was a reason for the bond that came about Comm and you got to be very very thankful it wasn't this group or the group prior Commissioners that were here before we would have done it and approved it but the fact of it is our citizens approved that bond issue that brought us out of that of course covid came along and and actually helped us finish a lot of that work quicker than we could have otherwise so commissioner Oakley um commissioner wman wasn't here but I remember when um your constituents came here I don't know the name of the ball field up here par uh the little Le bur the yeah the little leag parents came to us from that field and said they were turning the lights on and off with the 8ft 2x4 so they didn't get electric some prir County we are I'll never forget that we moved past that so oh my gosh so I hope that was the first thing we got fixed but I am 100% now they're remote controlled I think you know our parks are integral to providing a quality of life and um and grateful that I know it took a lot of work to get here and I'm sorry Keith couldn't be here I know he wanted to be here to present this but um I'm all for moving forward we're not to can we go back to the slide where it showed the rates I guess it is so at one day in a future we'll be asked to approve some rate on here you'll be asked to approve an ordinance first ordinance first correct yeah the order of operations is you'll you'll you'll what we're asking for direction today is is to go ahead and prepare the ordinance and hold the public hearings um if all that goes in advance of the budgeting process then we would we would budget appropriately and then bring a the MST will be established and then in July when you set the trim you can decide at what rate if any the board would like to like to select on that for the upcoming for the upcoming tax year Well we all I don't want to speak for and everyone but I I can say the majority of us feel that we definitely need this for our our citizens in Pasco CU they're growing and growing and and more being born in our our County and more hitting the fields so it's it's well needed and we've got a great parks department and I commend all of yall for the work you do and to bring about all the successes we have through our Sports area in our Parks so yeah any other questions or yes thank CH yeah when we hear our

office here's it daily just about we need more fields we need space we need land we need this batting Cas we you name it uh and I think I like to see this mstu go further I like I think we need to we can look a little bit longer longer term and evolve this mstu to where the Parks really has its its own funding source and its own uh funding mechanism through the mstu and not rely on the general fund should times get tough and eventually I'd like to see the vast majority of the park budget tied into an mstu and pulled off the general fund that way essentially the Park's budget they don't have to worry about I mean there'll be a public hearing process so there'll be processes if they miss you or reduced or increased or what have you they don't have to worry about our citizens and our the folks who use these fields so often have to worry about general fund budget Wars right so just something to think about as we go further maybe expand the mstu the role of this mstu and while while while funding that mstu to the right number could pull the burden of parks off the general fund and then Parks have its own longterm stand Lo budget source that way our Parks team can really think longterm and really think 20 years ahead maybe 30 years ahead um cuz you heard her say 2045 well further than that and I mean well that's what I mean that some of the money from the bond they're not going to expend it the bond the bond is done I don't want to have to it with parts dead before we see those like what's our average 46 is our average age now in Pas so I'm getting Young we see so we see we see our demographic changing and the need changing so um just something to think about as we move forward on the mstu process here and fully supportive of mstu for our Parks our residents are clearly demanding it and wanting it and U happy to happy to work through this process and and find a healthy number Mr chair so that's the the the 2045 date is build out of the facilities plan oh and that's that's tied that's tied to impact fees your bonds have to be done in 3 years three years okay um another advantage to doing this this way I believe is that this can be bonded where impact fees can't really no well and MSU can be bonded right you would have to have a referendum you to bond any taxes you'd have to go after ref up to any amount or after a certain amount the the general law is that if you are going to pledge adum taxes of any of any kind you have to have a referendum that's why Bonds were done okay by referendum okay what what would it be required of this MSU to take over all the needs of of parks so if so the parks's budget I I don't know it's probably roughly 20 to 30 million 22 million 22 million annually so you if you were to back that math out I'm going to speak rough water magnitude probably half a mil um under operating

revenue is what that what that's currently what that is what that currently looks like thank you yeah 0 4625 not not too bad here so that that is what the current share if you will of the parks budget is of the general operating millage so there's not necessarily a one for one correlation in terms of millage just because you're cutting cities out and and there's there's definite ways to look at that but right now in that millage there is no allocation for what we're talking about here today right we talked about the impact fees if I use the house analogy the impact fee builds the house the general operating millage here sort of funds the operations of the house right pays the light bill buys the food um this here is for replacing the air conditioning the hot water heater the roof when when those times come so that's the piece that's currently missing and Christina hit on that you know we've we've we've been managing to take about a million dollars of General Revenue we've been able to put it towards that but that that can't be guaranteed so as commissioner waitman puts out you know wanting to try to guarantee a dedicated funding source for Parks is something but what this mstu currently today stands before you is to do the do the maintenance Capital repair so we're not looking necessarily at doing reping any the entire operation of the park budget unless the board you know wants to direct us to to move in that direction but that could also be a longer term Vision as well or a subject of of budget workshops or however the board wants to proceed I think this phase we're in right now was going to move in the right direction because we haven't been able to have monies like this to to do that maintenance keep up with it Mr Mariano thank you Mr chairman and I was in the boards that were struck by the recession way back when 0607 and we had to cut our BD budget from Parks and libraries and they even put fees in parks so uh it's a long battle back from that right um I am very optimistic from what I'm hearing from the board um and I think Parks is doing a phenomenal job with everything they're doing um the inflation caught us from some of the project we want to get done but wa it is I would caution the board though from getting too heavy to putting all the parks budget to the MSU and too much into that you've got two cities on the west side that are blighted to like 90% one's 99 one's probably 90% those people aren't paying into that and I don't think this Ms to you is going to be paid by the CI too are they no so you going to throw all the burden on just the county when everybody uses this thing so I think we need these conversation about what's really blighted what's not let's go relook at that again yeah because it's not right for the county to have to pay for all of it when the city cities are using it as well so I think you got to kind of look closely where you're going if you want to get caught up that's one thing but again you're throwing that burden on all the County residents not the cities as well who do

benefit from it so as we take the next steps I think you need to to really look at that I think we need to I agree with you and need to be careful how we move toward something like that but at the same time you got to remember um I had a call from a couple of my citizens here around East side of Pasco and and actually they were concerned about the uh impact fee that was coming out on the parks he said oh I don't know if I can afford to pay that well he's already living here a couple of three years and fact of it is he was kind of elated when I told him I said well that's not going to be charged to you you've already built your house you've already paid your impact fees this is for future homes that are coming in that are going to have to pay this fee so he was glad to hear that because he was assuming that we were putting a big burden of tax on our citizens are already here and we're not doing that at all so uh all we're doing is adding something that will help maintain our fields for the future so yeah any any other questions or I'm good direct any more Direction I think this is the right way to go I uh I'm not quite sure of the number right now so well I think if the board would just like to formally vote direct us to bring back an ordinance for public hearing we certainly can do that move to bring the ordinance back to the county okay I got a motion I'll make that motion I got a motion I got a motion I need a second second second got a motion second I can hear that uh all those in favor does this have to be roll call or not no all those in favor say I I I motion pass 40 okay um thank you for your presentation so I took it very good now we'll go to Old business believe that's where we're at you are correct so with old business um Mr wait thank you I have uh couple items to bring up today I'm not sure what order they're on the screen okay so we have a bit of an interactive map here and what is that there's a whole lot going a whole lot going on so my team we have mapped outes and storage facilities Nas thank you Brian Holmes for being patient with me as we work through this for the vast majority of the major corridors throughout our County and I'd love to share the working document with your offices and if you see them in in your neck of the woods add them to it because this goes to my point of the densities of the store the car washes in blue and the storage facilities in yellow and to really have a visual they're so on top of each other I know staff is working on this but it's just pretty eager to have some sort of idea of what we're doing here I wanted to show everybody what were oh you're missing a bunch in my ear right well we went we figured we cut off at 41 the the Veterans Expressway but as we're working our way through the county you'll see

how dense they are and uh Brian remind me of the qualific what the the qualifications to have a car wash is uh specific language Bri I'll tell you there's no there was no separation distance for some and this was pretty General um for some of the franch standards for some of the franchises there were no separation distances it was more all about outp positioning their their competitors yeah so there's no with a car wash franchise distance to another car wash doesn't matter it's all about pure traffic count and you know really comp out competing your competitor in the market so they don't care if you're 10 ft apart so when you draw you know radius around areas they're so close to one another but I just wanted to show the board a visual because we hear it all the time from from our you know folks in the community we probably all get emails we see it online here's a real life map that we have and we're still adding adding to it as weeks weeks go by um just told everybody might find this interesting but yeah but what can we do I mean that's zoning y uh D I mean it's like uh you could say how many fast foods do you want on a road how you how you going to keep uh places for storage when you got many many homes coming yet and seems like everybody needs one a storage building besides their own well there's very few attics and no basements around uh David Engel director of planning and economic growth we are working on a number of initiatives uh the first one that'll be here in front of the board in the next month or so is going to be the car wash ordinance we're addressing the freequency and distribution of car washes we realize that the board is very concerned about consuming these commercial Carters which is these low paying low job creating uses uh we didn't want to be arbitrary about the spacing so we have a we have a plan and we're we're relying on data and information to make it and we'll have a recommendation to you shortly uh we do have uh some regulatory refinements that we presented and the board's approved on third party storage and if you need further work there we'll certainly look into that I know it's it's it's good to have the evolution of some of the storage FS coming in really doing a mix space office office on the bottom floor of their storage facility and maybe even evolve it to some instances you have you know a residential component to the the storage facility there's just there's so many more options but taking Prime commercial real estate and if we can challenge them to think bigger and and add more job creating spaces within their within their product that be that'd be fantastic so anyway if anybody like to have a copy of this and add to it I'm happy happy to share it's been kind of eye opening project Denise you like it we'll get all to to send it over send it over to every Everybody Mr Ang you can

see where everybody lives um the next article we sent out an article uh the times actually M and I were talking about this I think the day before carbal article popped up about um our seniors going back to work in the workplace but they're for f mainly for financial reasons to keep up with their cost of living um in this inflationary Market and sitting on the Aging board and talking with amarie and listening to the services they provide but 65 and older persons are working longer and longer or they're having to go back into the workforce if you haven't had a chance to read the Times article it's it's it's really eye openening and uh next week at the Area Agency on Aging meeting coming up and I'm going to get a meeting with Kathy here I'd like to find a way if seniors or folks are having to come out of retirement to help them not be as intimidated to come back into the workforce we have am skills that provides training to a younger Workforce career sources out there um and other technical institutes but find a way to capture those folks who may need to come back into the workforce and help them feel comfortable coming back into the workforce and to give them upskilling or modernization of their skills uh to be able to to get to get back to work um I think they're they'd be a great asset back to our employers because everybody's looking for a good employee and a lot of these folks have a lifetime of skills and have acquired tremendous knowledge and I think still have great value in our in our workplace then the piece to add to this too and we approved today several different funding sources for the area agency or accepting some funds is maybe add a piece of I guess a form of financial literacy if you will on how to navigate the money struggles of this really expensive world that we're in as folks are having to step out of retirement come back to work to make enough to pay off of my daal mentioned some windows appliances that sort of thing so as we look through and we promote our our our job skills training programs I'd like to capture you know our older older Americans who may need to come back to work and help them feel comfortable coming back into into the work place so just something to think about through out there I don't know if am skills commissioner starky does something for older folks but if they oh yeah love we just put a lady in her 60s into a career in Mar in manufacturing yeah to Market to them somehow Mr Ang thank you again David Engel planning director economic growth director uh I just wanted to applo the board because back in 2018 the board ini iated a pilot program called the Pasco re-entry program we are funding Career Source directly to and provide a source of non-who related funding that actually upskills and gets people back into the workforce it's been highly successful not only are we focused on people that

are older and want to get back in the workforce we work on um veterans homeless and they've had over 180 placements of homeless people off the street into jobs and we are working with Career Source on a multi-year uh continuation because it's been so successful it's for Pasco residents only yeah so I think as we we go through this expense of time that we have a renewed interest and effort and take a look at it and maybe Mark a little bit broader to to that group of folks and then the last item I have is um i' like to appoint uh Matthew muns to the Planning Commission uh for Pete Hansel retired recently Matt is make Bill Ms County engineer for a long time Matt's an engineer uh for a private firm and he's currently on the day City Planning Commission um and he has an interest in serving in a higher level and um Chris P uh serves on the Planning Commission he's east of 41 Matt would be east of 41 and between those two and other three on the west side of 41 have a real good grasp and understanding of Pasco count from Hernando County Line to the Hillsboro County Line and so I'd be grateful for the board support to appoint Matt Matt would start on the Planning Commission uh in May on the what commission Planning commiss Commission second place who uh Pete Hansel who retired oh he's still not he hadn't been replaced Pete dropped off so this is your person okay I made a sec I'll second a motion all right got a motion in a second all those in favor say I I I thank you board members and that's all I have it passed 40 so that'd be good we move on to miss starky um I sent Sonia some pictures um I uh attended the Uli conference and so did our County Administrator in Tampa I really wish some of you all would have gone to the summit I think it's was invaluable um you have known a lot of people there um I think I think you enjoyed it right I don't you speak about it in your notes yeah um I took some slides here uh some photos of some slides from John Burns um this is who's moving here um folks from New York Miami Fort Lauderdale Chicago Long Island um I can tell you when when I run into these people they just say how can you run your go government the tax is so low here I I hear that all the time from people moving down here from up north um next one um this is the number of retirees are going to grow over the next 5 years um The Dark One is the Tampa MSA and the the light one is the Sarasota MSA um but you can see it's uh between the biggest numbers are between let's see how would I rank that 63 to 22 so we're getting younger and younger and younger but a lot but we're going to have a lot of folks retiring with with income here I didn't put the income slide here but that was amazing okay um the 25 to 44 year olds comprise the largest age cohort of the single family renters so they they were talking about how the rental market has just blown up and a lot of it is because of these guys and a lot of these this age group they

work they can work anywhere in the country they're working from home I my daughter's friend he's a geologist works for a company out of Texas he was living in Denver and and now he's living in St Pete but you know he doesn't go into the office um girlfriend of mine works for an ad agency in Tampa she lives in Scotland they can live anywhere they want which is why we see these apartment complexes with these amenities going up everywhere okay next one um um and here's about here's affordability so again it it's harder and harder for the young ones to buy anything the younger ones and um here's the remote and hybrid work uh this is why the suburbs are growing in why Pasco one of the reasons Pasco is growing so fast and uh I don't know if I put the slide here so hang on for a second on that one one of the things they said with the build to rents is one of the reasons they think they're so popular is because some of these folks who've retired and I see it at starky Ranch I there's people in Longleaf that have done this um they they're buying something a little smaller or they're renting just to be near their grandkids they don't want to leave where they are full-time but they they're renting something closer they so they could be closer to their to their grandkids in the area so um and this this kind of shows you about the um about the US work from home home uh share that next one is something that really caught my eye and I actually saw this project when I went to Lakewood Ranch and it's something we might look at and you think about um I I saw this when I was on a bike ride in in Lake Travers Michigan and think about the sidewalk in downtown Tampa and think about the park in downtown St Pete the P the edge of the amenity of the lake is reserved for the public so the apartment complex is set a little bit back from the edge of the lake and that makes that an amenity for everybody not just the people in the apartment every Lake in Michigan has access to public yeah yeah exactly I've rode my bike all along Lake Michigan so um I think this is something we should be thinking about when the development comes in and how can we just improve quality of life and reserving that little Edge might be something we want to be talking about yeah isn't the uh Black Lake projects similarly laid out like this we have a bike trail uh the orange belt trail goes along the back side of it along the park because it's the old railroad right away oh no Black Lake I'm sorry that's so Black Lake Black Lake does across from the R so so we we asked them to make sure they had a public space in their layout where because there's a couple of restaurants where it could be a shared outdoor space between the restaurants that are going in there right with a little walkway to a dock on a lake just to use the use

your Lake or Pond or whatever as an amenity and and and increase the ability to have more opportunities to sit outside or whatever you know you could be having dinner if your kids are done they can run down and be on the dock looking at at the lake or whatever something like that but um lastly I'm not saying I oh I attended the uh firefighters the the fire department's party at um Safety Town that was the cake wow that's impressive isn't that amazing um but they had a they had a great event down there U Mission Barbecue uh served up some great barbecue very impressive um and uh I I think that's a a nice event and maybe I'll can make it out there uh next time but great event um so I think I'll say I'll save these for next time this is on homeless but I'll save it for next time that's it for me okay Mr marianao yes I got a couple of pictures matter of fact some of them from the fire event as well which I thought was fantastic it was a great great family event that everybody got there and uh it was a great chance for them out to all get together and and hang out which was was really cool EV event Heth what a great group they are to step up in from them great sponsor for us there your firefighters that cake commission starky you also even donated a basket for that's so cute was that fire engine cake also they were taking this picture when I arrived I love that picture wow big time it was it was the weather was just perfect right yeah big dog on the left and then look at our sidewalk oh is that is that your sidewalk from before Jack that's C okay and do you have pictures for LMA Avenue there's a neighborhood where they've got a I think it's a 1.2 acre piece of property and they got all sorts of code violations actually just were killing snakes out the other the day so it's gotten kind of dangerous but it looks like they're just bringing yard waste in and I don't see any stockpiling of the facility actually do any compost or anything else but uh oh that's horrible where's that this is up in Hudson God so we have a Land Development code that says if you're going to do this type of work you have to go through a process they're trying to hang this on as far as the Right to Farm Act and if this person if this person gets away with it's going to keep on going so no that's horrible um you know Mike I think you need to work with staff and we need to work with the attorney's office Etc because they're even throwing the hands up on it but there's just no way you can allow this to happen this this will continue you on and on and on oh that's hor and again if you're going to go do this wouldn't you have to go through

site development on I think the citizen complained about a vector nuisance with snakes and things like that as well the snakes just showed up fire too yeah so again I I need Jeff your office and Mike's office to get together and find out what we can do about this because there's just no way this is like designed for this and they haven't gone through any of the processes if they wanted to do something for farming they haven't done any of that either all right um on another note I just got an email from someone that told me that uh EPA has now got standards for p yes I saw that this morning so I think we need to get a report on that for the next board meeting to bring it forward to see what we can go do and uh start working on that especially with our fgs uh because I know we have a few levels down there and I think in Tamp Bay Water commissioner Oley that we need to make sure we're looking at the two that we have trouble to if we have standards we got to figure out how going handle that uh lastly I am still facing all sorts of um handh handling going on and even the gentleman who we just arrested one in court with the one that says I why Li I need a beer out there again the other day I mean it's just absurd I I I have said you know when we look at Code Enforcement Officers you want to like deal with your issues that you may have Etc uh I'm going to tell you we've got to do a better job and more intense job when we said we're going to bring code people on we're going to keep them on Till Dusk to go through to go look at these panhas and I'm going to tell you if our code people are out there people aren't going to donate to these people it's going to chase them away we got to go back at this issue again we got a great ordinance in place copied from Lee County they're doing great with it but we got to have our people out there wasn't it you that showed the sign I mean we don't have any signs that say it's illegal someone showed a a county sign it said panhandling and whatever you know Street shouldn't say well whatever the word is you cannot transact business in the safety whatever we should have be putting a sign on those on those Corners so let's go put some signs out we got all the trouble areas we know where they are let's go put signs up but I still want bodies in the sheriff's office they'll say they're too busy doing other things I get that I'm okay with that this is not a big high crime thing we need to go but someone needs to go out the Cod for them do out there and I'm not going to say anything more than just being out there as a ter deterrent to get them away and when you don't do that what happens is they keep coming and coming and coming it's it's not Premier and we got stuff in place but I need the resources in my district I don't care if they look at anything else right now let me get my people out there and code just to do

that it's the most important I of my district and that'll that'll probably slow on the camps that you have because they know they can go by the way there's another issue that just came up there was a church on Old Dixie Highway and again I just got to called this afternoon so the break so haven't even talked to anybody from staff about this whatsoever but there's an old church that that was at Old Dixie Highway in Hudson Avenue uh we've got now we we allowed this for when the church was there to have our showers go out there for the people to go out and take a shower the church has now left and gone to 5A road so there's no church there they're still giving away food there and conducting business there I don't think they're permitted to go do all that so if we could i' like to get code out there to go take a look at that right away and that's all I have that's all you have okay Mr cabala Mr chair actually just just really one one good news item you know is we try to get more grants into the county to leverage tax money that our citizens have already paid into we had a wonderful event and I'd like just to have uh Dr B us come up and speak for maybe 30 seconds to a minute about it about the federal agency funding Workshop we held a few weeks back thank you good afternoon Commissioners have you ever heard me say anything in 30 seconds never no okay just a hair more uh so so yeah this uh we uh you established this uh about a month and a half ago so some very big uh bodies of work are going on I just want to share with you real quickly here uh one is that our vulnerability assessment that has been going on for about a year now is wrapping up which is going to cover the entire County I think I mentioned that to you before it's it's going to point out areas that we may already uh think or know are vulnerable but it's going to point out some blind spots too uh and concurrently with that and we're going to share the results with each of you concurrently we are working in our new team to network and create relationships with local state and federal agencies and funders and we've had great meetings already with folks like the Arman Corb Engineers uh Noah uh we actually had uh the um uh the a group from the Feds that we talked to the other day which was kind of a surprise for us but we're trying to build a good Network good relationships uh part of that was on the 22nd we did hold an event in uh in cooperation with the Tampa Bay Regional planning Council and uh we had expected to have a couple of funders come in a few people attend and see we go from there Well turns out it was a pretty good event we had 109 people show up we had 16 state and federal funders there all of them sharing their inside secrets on what they were funding and what they needed from us we uh literally put Pasco on the map during that same time we able to we able to hand them 23 project sheets of

things that were already going on in the county because although we're new to this a lot of folks in the county have been working on this stuff for a long time really without a lot of support they now have the ear of these funders and we're following all of that up so real good start for us it's just a beginning these two P big pieces are going to come together very soon so all the information we know about what's happening in the county the information from the vulnerability assessment and all the relationships we now have with the funders to build an adaptation plan which will prioritize all of the actions and activities we start moving forward to uh guarantee the future of Pasco County so that's uh that's our update support Mark go ahead I want to tell you at Regional planning Council they were raving about how great the meeting was awesome uh up and down um so definitely had an effect uh at the restore Council we had a great meeting uh Mr Thomas is doing a phenomenal job for us yes very excited that he's going to try to do all the leveraging you can as well and uh one more thing as far as legancy goes you're talking about it uh May 910 I believe is the uh Summit for regional planning Council for the resiliency um I will tell you I looked at the agenda there's a few really good things on there there a few things that kind of I'm not crazy about and we'll deal with those things down the road but it is the summit that's coming up there for resiliency if you can make it uh it would be real good and one thing with the regional planning Council too we had our audit done you know the executive director resigned a little bit ago um nothing was found out of the ordinary it just kind of uh he did need to go from his own family reason Etc so there was nothing found the A's done everything's clean everything's in good shape down there great partnership with cool thank for your support thank you uh the only other item sir I would like to add is a shout out to Kathy Pearson uh Senior Services Group they were recognized uh by Congressman Gus Bill AR acis's office with the 2024 Heroes Among Us award uh for for taking over a number of programs that affected up to 400 of our vulnerable seniors so just a shout out to them for the great body of work that they do for our seniors day in and day out that's all I have very good yes sir all right Mr Steiner oh wait you've got something I have something um though you don't necessarily have to act on it today um on this morning's consent agenda you approved revised procedural rules which added the second Vice chair to your rules that second Vice chair can be appointed or uh can be voted on at any any given board meeting okay any interest sure sure what's the tie between both of you interest all right y'all rock paper scissors you want now I'll nominate nominate commissioner star I'll second commissioner Mar commission starky for second thank you very much so I got a motion in a second for commissioner starky to be second vice

president or vice chair second vice president yeah whatever that is uh okay all those in favor say I I I motion pass 4 Z welcome thank you welcome just just remember for the May meeting no one can guess it um why is that to Recons you can't you now can't be out Mr seider if so I'm I'm going to the na Board of director meeting yes um if you need me to zoom in what are the rules on that or do we need to take care of that now if if we needed me just so we don't have what Happ um the rules are that you have to be unavailable and that's the legislative decision of the board um if you needed if I I think it's fair if if you could if you well the problem is when you get to the point where you don't have a quorum physically present you can't have video you can't have a remote a remote person so at the point where at the point where that would be a problem we couldn't could solve we could solve it that way anyway yeah we couldn't have a meeting at that point right yeah sorry that's problem that's the that there has to be a physical Quorum present to do the remote uh attendance is this someone's Eclipse photo uh I'm bringing that up but I was waiting to see that's thank you thank you Mr chair yes I have good news um you know every year um we go through a comprehensive Financial audit um we have a firm CRI um that goes through it and audits all of our financials and I wanted to let you know that well every year we create a comprehensive or annual comprehensive financial report and we submit it to the government officers Finance Association gfoa and we have won the Excellence in financial reporting for fiscal year ended in 2022 and that is the 40th consecutive year of excellence and financial reporting so um congratulation goes out to um your team all of your departments work with my financial department as well so big congratulations to my financial department as well and I wanted to give a shout out to Jess Jessica blesser on your team she really did a lot of heavy lifting and she's pretty pretty amazing so thank you to Jessica and and Matt Bazar from my team um and Richard vansteen from my team as well they worked really well together um we had great collaboration and yesterday we just submitted to gfoa the fiscal year ended 23 uh financial report so we hope to make it 41 consecutive years in the near future yep sounds great congratul I have Clark hoby and the hind folks waiting on me so I'll listen to you as I'm walking back there hey so don't think I'm walking out on but I'm walking out on yeah I know you we still got a quum we'll take care of some things in your District while you're in your District while you're gone we'll take care of I'm just walking over there I'm not sure where they are we're good um that was you'll see the uh solar eclipse for those of you that didn't drive to

Missouri and couldn't see that my assistant did and her husband did drive to Missouri and they came back and arrived back home on Tuesday morning around 7:30 in the morning to get back here to work so but that's she actually her and her husband went out there they they thought they'd rather see that one they couldn't believe they'd wait 200 more years and wouldn't be able to see so yeah there you go put her INR but I have a couple of things um uh one of one of them concerns being it it's I guess it's to me it's in Ralph's Ralph's area is the fact that when we have local independent businesses reaching out through Consultants that work with us and other people and they're doing that in Pasco County we get credited for money that they get that we really don't get and it's knocks out because they've given us that for an independent developer has gotten this money and they count that as going to passco so when we're asking for things we really want to ask for we're not asking for that item sometimes we get knocked out of our items based on the fact that an independent business is asking for for the same kind of money as for the state which I don't think that's right they should get that money anyway that's my opinion but um I I didn't know if y'all realize that or not but we're getting accredited for those asks even though they weren't asked by our board so we need to somehow we need to work with that cuz when it when it goes to Tallahasse they think it's f Pasco County asking for and it's not Pasco County asking at all now the money's come back and go into Pasco yeah but they go into a private developer firm yeah Mar m maybe we need to put in we do put our s in that we put in these are the things we're asking for we're not asking for anything else that's not on this list just to be clear yes sir yeah I think that's probably something we can address through our next legislative Workshop as we come into that yes whether we can bring folks to the table earlier because some of these items that come forward uh you know they they could have a public benefit that maybe we want to explore may not be the board's priorities but could be a priority for for the citizens so I think we we should discuss that and and how we want to approach that so I think that's fair and legislators they don't realize it they they just think that's a Pasco County ask they don't know the difference so you know not being told that so something I think need look out for and and just watch and I've made Ralph aware of it too so and then another thing I've had was the fact that in some issues that's happening with our Planning Commission I've noticed that sometimes they they're making statements toward policy which this board has already set aside our policies that we want to move forward that we want to happen for our

citizens but the it seems like some members of the Planning Commission are acting like they're policy makers and they're not so maybe in satisfying some of that is and David Engle maybe step up to the podium um maybe and I don't know whose responsibility that is of the Planning Commission but maybe they need to be retrained to what their duties really are cuz it seems like they're step I heard one time and this is several months back that one Planning Commission decided he he wasn't sure he wanted to um vote on this particular development because he wasn't sure we had he had heard zeph Hills didn't have water and he figured we didn't have water anymore and he couldn't put that many homes on a piece of land not knowing if we had water or not well we have water that's not our issue so we have plenty of water so what do you think well Mr chairman we we have had a workshop in the pass to uh to educate the Planning Commission with their role and Robert's Rules and their duties um I also feel that there's a desire amongst the Planning Commission to consult the board regarding planning items and I've approached the chair about establishing quarterly workshops so they could have discussions and make recommendations to the Commissioners I think that would be good because I me they're just some are just kind of get out of place when they're not doing what we're asking them to do for us and I appreciate all they do cuz they don't get paid for that job and they're tied up in meetings kind of like we are at times but they don't get paid for it so there's a lot of knowledge time is very important too yeah I mean it's my my my take is we got some Engineers on there some pretty skilled people on there that I think all I all I've and I've listen to several Planning Commission meetings with different things but if they're fir enough with the ordinances in place Etc that's good if they're fighting what maybe staff's policy changes are to be and they're implementing those and they're pushing back on that I don't mind they having a debate on it you if they're saying like you know like today we approved one for 1.9 had a lot of walkability we kind of R through it that's why i' Let It Go CU I don't like those either I want to see at least two or better but I want to give them the freedom to go look at the code and we got a county attorney sits in that office that in that room when it's going on if they're out of line he can call them out but I haven't seen any issues like that that would wouldn't qually meetings and I I think we all have enough meetings to go to don't get me wrong we we have some smart individuals on on we're very lucky to have those individuals there I appreciate that but the fact of it is when when they kind of leave what their role is to possibly trying to make policy then I think they're going too far and I think that's the attorney's office office at that meeting to call it out for specifics unless you get some specifics you want to bring out I think I I I mean David's

the sharpest can be if he sees something I've seen him do it he's jumped over the top of them plan commission I'm well aware of that right Dave so I mean I I don't I don't see any need to if asked that's right if he gets asked then he steps in yeah so but I've just noticed some lately that kind of concerns me a little bit anything to say Mr th well it's a fine line for us um we're not we're not really there to chastise the Planning Commission I know David has in the fact reminded them that there has been board Direction on something that they were going in a different direction on um and to a certain extent their role is clearly not policy in developments um their role is recommend is to make you a recommendation on policy for when the code and the comp plan right um so that without knowing the specifics I don't I can't say they've stepped over they haven't stepped over but but that you know between the county attorney's office and the planning director we should be able to to get the Planning Commission to stay in their Lane and and I think with the chairman and and you yourself Mr County attorney should should have a disc discussion and kind of delve into it further if they need Bring It Back bring it back yeah and I mean it's it hadn't come to the point they've changed policy but their staff knows our policy so if I guess if it's riding on the edge to to moving away from what our policy is and it needs to be spoke to so and we don't do that we're not there to do that so and and other other than that that Planning Commission is we're adding new member too which be very good for that that group to uh move forward they do a good job yeah I agree yeah all right with that um other than my dog turning two yesterday I think that's all I've got so we will be [Music] adjourned [Music]