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Board of County Commissioners · Afternoon Session

3.26.24 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

Tue, Mar 26, 2024

The board approved a rezone of 42.8 acres on US 19 for Meritage Homes' Jar Palms project, reducing density from 499 RV spaces to 250 townhomes with conditions including shade trees every 30 linear feet and opaque fencing maintained by HOA or CDD. Commissioners also approved a comp plan change converting 318 acres north of SR 52 to Conservation Lands for the Wildlife Corridor and a 4-acre commercial reclassification at Shady Hills Road and Helen K Drive. The county administrator won board authorization to award a new jail food vendor contract at under $2 million annually, and three land-use items were continued to the April 23 meeting.

Agenda17 items

  1. 0:01
    Call to order and appointment of acting chairadministrative
    3-0approvedread ↓
  2. 1:10
    P39Small-scale comp plan amendment Diagonal Road and New York Avenue continuedpublic hearing
    tabledread ↓
  3. 2:02
    P40Small-scale comp plan amendment New York Avenue industrial light continuedpublic hearing
    tabledread ↓
  4. 2:54
    P41Small-scale comp plan amendment Shady Hills Road and Helen K Drive approvedpublic hearing
    3-0 roll call: Wman-I, Starky-I, Mariano-Iapprovedread ↓
  5. 7:27
    P42Comp plan amendment Coastal High Hazard areas and adaptation action areas continuedpublic hearing
    tabledread ↓
  6. 9:21
    P43Comp plan amendment 318 acres to Conservation Lands north of SR 52 approvedordinance
    3-0 roll call: Wman-I, Starky-I, Mariano-Iapprovedread ↓
  7. 11:10
    P44Residences at Rolling Hills MPUD rezoning continued to April 23public hearing
    tabledread ↓
  8. 13:46
    P45Word of Life Fellowship conditional use continued to April 23public hearing
    tabledread ↓
  9. 14:23
    P46Fletcher comprehensive plan amendment CPA 2301 continued to April 23public hearing
    tabledread ↓
  10. 15:06
    P47Consent agenda development agreement and zoning amendment approvedconsent
    approvedread ↓
  11. 16:50
    P49Jar Palms MPUD rezoning for 250 townhomes on US 19 approved with conditionspublic hearing
    3-0approvedread ↓
  12. 48:01
    P50Beacon Woods East MPUD amendment for passive golf course area uses approvedpublic hearing
    3-0approvedread ↓
  13. 1:08:33
    P51Senate bill related item continued pending governor signaturepublic hearing
    tabledread ↓
  14. 1:10:25
    Commissioner committee reports: landscaping, trails, and legislative updatesdiscussion
    discussedread ↓
  15. 1:31:18
    County Administrator report: jail food vendor contract and upcoming meetingsadministrative
    approvedread ↓
  16. 1:38:04
    Commissioner Mariano committee report: derelict boats, Chasco Parade barricadesdiscussion
    discussedread ↓
  17. 1:40:46
    Meeting adjournedadministrative

Transcript30 paragraphs(2,321 cues)

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I'm going to bring the board of County Commissioners back to order uh before we get started uh with the chairman if you want me to to Mr County attorney so we've taken the pos position for this meeting up till now um that this that the senior member of the board would act as chair yeah um but as the clerk points out to me that's not really in your rules and and there are documents that commissioner Mariano will need to sign so I'll need a motion to appoint him acting chair for today's meeting um I will move to have our senior member be chair today should I make an 80s comment after after you second I'm older than him he's just been here longer all all in favor say I I I and it's not as to age it's senior years on the board ten ten okay I'm the Elder and the first order of business of P39 do we have proof P39 we have proof of publication in the February 7th edition of the Tampa Bay Times along with affidavit is C certified mailings and site postings thank you Mr chairman item P39 is an ordinance amending the Pesco county comprehens of a plan providing for a small scale compan a plan Amendment to the Future Landing map map 2-15 and Sheet 03 from Ro retail office residential to Il industrial Light on approximately 16.84 Acres of real property located at the southeast corner of the intersection of Diagonal Road and New York Avenue and providing for an additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repeal stability and effective date uh this item is recommended for a continuance to a date uncertain move to continue second all in favor say I I P40 do we have proof we have proof of publication in the November 22nd edition of the Tampa Bay Times this item was continued from the December 5th uh 2023 Board of County Commissioners meeting to time certain this day item P40 is in ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future Landing M map 2-15 sheet 03 from RR office residential to I industrial Light on approximately 10 acres of real property located on New York Avenue and providing for additional Tex amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repeat cability and an effective date this item also comes with a recommendation of their continuance to a date uncertain move to continue second all in favor say I I I any opposed p41 b41 uh was published in the January 3rd edition of the Tampa Bay Times supplemented by Affidavit of certified mailings and site posting item p41 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use M map 2-15 sheet 05 from res one residential one dwelling unit per gross acre to Comm commercial on approximately 4.00 Acres of real property located at the intersection of

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Shady Hills Road and Helen K drive and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repealer cability and an effective date and this is a this comes with a recommendation to approve the proposed comprehensive plan and adopt the ordinance will call this a small scale comp okay commission wait thank you chair uh Cherry I know it's only four acres so it doesn't fit really in the live local bubble but it's not contiguous to another commercial piece that doesn't have any deed restriction on it is there uh I believe will be a deed restriction placed on the property that doesn't happen at the comprehensive plan stage so make sure that in the bigger picture of this that it wasn't tied into a neighboring parcel where we could find ourselves in a vulnerable situation yes we it's been the common practice now to deed restrict okay proper at the zoning St zoning phase right want hear any more from staff uh this is a public hearing is anyone here from the public like to speak to this item we have no one signed up in advance okay anyone on WebEx no sir we do not okay so is any anyone in the audience want to speak to the this well I did have a question for staff okay I'm looking forward to let me just finish public comment at this point so I'm going to close public comment seeing no one come forward commission starky um I know we talk about winding Shady Hills Road in the future is there someone from um Terry or someone um my question is are we reserving property to put a multi-use path in front of this do we know which if we're widening this road do we know which side of the road will have a wider pedestrian opportunity and are we reserving that I'm looking to see we've asked for those kind of things to be in here so I'm looking to see if it's in here because I didn't have access to this yesterday so good afternoon commissioner nicken County engineer uh comp plan does call for a four-lane facility and the typical section we would assume to build on this Corridor would include a 12T multi-use path presumably on the east side of the corridor and that would be because of the location of three schools on the east side and the typical sections say put it on the East Side unless there's reason to locate it on the west well there is a park is the park on the west side is Veterans on here or is that on Cru cruise leges on the right hand side and nothing else east side is Veterans on Hayes which which road is Veterans on this on Hicks Road hick okay well I just want to make sure we are taking care of future Mobility so Nick if I could so to to follow so if it's on one side of the road it's a 12ft path the other one would at least have like at least five fo okay yep by typical section one of those two the next stage will address that on the west four vehicle travel Lanes 12 foot on the East

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but um multimodal connectivity throughout the whole Corridor okay and any RightWay conveyance conditions we impose on development along the corridor is consistent with the desired um RightWay identified in our comp plan the 124 ft but do we show that anywhere in here well this is at the comprehensive true so you see it in the zoning resoning okay but I want to make sure the applicant is aware that it's coming very good Mr chairman if I may answer uh Mr Whitman's uh question more directly the petitioner has indeed recorded a voluntary deed restriction on the LI local so it's already been done thank go all right public comments closed any other questions for staff if not we need a motion approve second all in favor say I I I item p42 proove and publication Tampa B times January 3rdd 2024 Edition item p42 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for text amendments to chapter 2 future land use sement repealing future land sement map series map 2-2 Coastal High Hazard areas and evacuation routes and replacing with map 2-2 Coast Coastal High Hazard areas and adaptation action areas text amendments to chapter 4 Coastal management element repealing Coastal management element 4-1 Coastal area Coastal High Hazard area and providing for additional txt amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repealer cability and an effective date um with this item the planning and economic growth department is going to actually request a continuous with data uncertain to address certain stakeholder interests wait did you say you want to continu it yes oh are good with that I'm very move uh to continue to is it a Time certain a date uncertain date uncertain second all in favor say I I I Mr chairman I believe we neglected to do a roll call vote on that previous ordinance uh you you need to dooll on ordinances so going back to then p41 p41 roll call Vote Yes thank you District Two commissioner Wan I District three commissioner Starker I District Five acting chair Mariano I staff caught it thank you staff very good okay1 passes roll call vote now where were we on the vote for this one roll call for 42 is it roll call not for continu we're all set with 42 moved to 43 did we vote we did vote he called the vote okay sorry 43 uh the December 20th 2023 edition of the Tamp Bay times and then by supplemented by Affidavit of certified mailings and site posting there are no one signed up okay item p43 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map map 2-15 and Sheet 05 from resan uh residential one dwelling unit progress acre and AGR agricultural rural to con conservation lands on

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approximately 318 Acres of real property located north of State Road 52 between Sun Coast Parkway and US Highway 41 and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repal cability and an effective date this comes here with recommendation to approve the proposed comprehensive plan Amendment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote there's a presentation if so desired okay then we care for a presentation okay all right let me call for public comment anybody here to speak to item p43 no one signed up no one signed up no one on WebEx no one online so we'll close public comment for p43 to the board move to approve p43 motion a second roll call vote District Two commissioner wman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Five commissioner Mariana M Mr chairman just for uh people that are here and listening we just added 318 Acres of property into the um Wildlife Corridor and uh is preserved so that's a good thing thank you very much okay now go to the public hearings Mr County attorney Mr chairman there are two resoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning May at this time request that the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are Quasi judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's Land Development code for resoning Mr clerk would you like to swear the public in so those of you who are wishing to present testimony in any of the upcoming cases we'd ask that you please rise and raise your right hand do each of you swear or affirm that the testimony you will give in that matter uh is the truth so help you God all right please be seated and again when you come forward to the podium just

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reconfirm that you were sworn okay Denise item p44 we have proof of publication in the February 7th 2024 edition of the Tampa Bay times thank you good afternoon Commissioners Denise Hernandez planning and economic growth Department item p44 is peg2 247740 it's a zoning Amendment the names of the residences at Rolling Hills mpud master plan unit development Dan Niko property LLC the request is to continue the item to the April 23rd 2024 Board of count County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Newport Richie have a motion to continue second all in favor say I I I p45 do have proof I approv publication again in the February 7th 2024 edition of the Tampa Bay Times p45 is pg24 cu13 conditional use in the name of Word of Life Fellowship Word of Life GLA the request is to continue the item to the to the April 23rd 2024 board County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Newport Richie have a motion move approval second move the continuance please move to continue move to continue sorry okay move to continue with a seconder and I will second it all in favor say I else I I I item p46 on item p46 this item was continued from the January 9th 2024 BCC meeting to February 6th at which time it was continued to March the 12th where it was continued to today okay so p46 is P2 24002 for it's comprehensive plan Amendment CPA 2301 Fletcher and the actual continuance date is the April 23rd 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Newport Richie would continue second all in favor say I I I any oppos motion passes and now we go with the consent agenda item p47 start we approv publication of this matter in the February 7th uh 2024 Edition T Times supplemented by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings p47 is Peg 24171 it's a development agreement for CA States LLC it's a development agreement for the construction of the multi-use path and for the award of Mobility fee credits for the the design permitting and construction of the offsite improvements of the multi-use path and for the difference between the cost of the required 5- foot sidewalk on site and the constructed multi-use path comes here with a recommendation of approval uh from the planning and economic growth department and the local planning agency who found it consistent with the comprehensive plan okay is there anyone in the audience online to speak in opposition to item p47 seeing no one leing on consent item p48 pref of publication again in the February 7th uh Tampa Bay Times and supplemented by certified mailings and site postings p48 is Peg 24777 zoning Amendment Bina M Hicks it's for a change in zoning from an RMH mobile home District to a P1 professional office District comes you with a recommendation of approval from the planning and develop planning and economic growth Department sorry and the the Planning Commission okay is anyone

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here to speak in opposition of item p48 leave it on consent and that concludes your consent agenda okay we have a motion move to approve the consent agenda second all in favor say I I I any opposed motion passes item p49 do we have proof we have proof publication again in the February 7th 2024 Edition Tay Times supplemented by Affidavit of certified mailings and sight postings good afternoon William Vermillion planning and economic growth this is item p49 p24 7734 the jar Palms MD here's its location map in the Northwestern portion of the county along us19 just south of County Line Road this rezoning is from UT to mut the previous mut is expired it was to allow 499 RV spaces at the time this new MPD will be allowing for 250 platted town homes on approximately 42.8 acres and we'll have two access points on uh us19 and an emergency access there on Cher Lane to the north here's that location map the existing zoning reflecting Mudd the existing future land use of residential 24 here is a contextual map to show some other projects in the vicinity you'll see the Heritage Pines Mudd and drri uh there to the north as well as U us19 and County Line Road um Aira Heights MD as well and the sun West Harbor Town Mudd and to to give you uh commissioner some contexts on the development within those muds the Heritage Pine drri was approved for uh 969 dwelling units and 45,000 ft of non-residential the arpa uh height MPD was approved for 235 single family detached and the SunWest Harbor toown drri was approved for 350 single family detached 2150 multif family dwelling units 200 50,000 ft of Comm 50,000 ft of office 250 hotel rooms 18-hole golf course and 50 slips uh on a marina here's this Project's master plan uh as you can see here those two accesses on us19 as well as the emergency access there to the north on Cher uh the applicant is also going to be connecting their internal sidewalks to those commercial out Parcels that you see there with the numbers 2122 2 and 23 on them as well as sidewalk connections to the existing sidewalk on us19 that takes you North to County Line Road and to the 12ft multiuse path that runs along County Line Road here is the uh non-binding conceptual plan and the applicant informed me that after meetings with conditioner Commissioners they made changes to this um to allow for more parking within within this Mudd for the town homes and this is reflected here on this plan the applicant is requesting one variation from 901 1611 that is to not provide interconnects to the East and East and the South and that is due to the existing uh platted residential homes there was uh one additional change that happened to Planning Commission from the original proposal we changed the language uh on the buffering for

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this mut to reflect an opaque fence to uh to ensure the residents that this uh this fence would not be able to see through the applicant is also giving an increased buffer uh above and beyond the LDC requirements to mitigate some of those concerns on the south and east from those residential ODS and with that that comes to you guys with the recommendation of approval with conditions from planning and economic growth as well as the Planning Commission I'm available for any questions okay any questions for staff I just have um one one comment I think um it used to be that everyone did brick or masonary walls and now I know we're getting to these vinyl walls um my only issue with those is is that if you don't clean it or keep it maintain they stop falling apart and so I would want a condition in there that that it has to be kept clean and um I don't know what the right word is but doesn't do any any good when a wall is Fallen apart and has mold all over it cuz I I see those around the county okay cuz otherwise I'm going to start going back to requiring Mason are or brick walls I don't know if you put that in the code or not in the condition we can put these in the conditions of approval that's absolutely and uh the applicant is here and can speak to the their consent on adding that condition okay any other questions uh no that's it okay all right the applicant good afternoon Cammy Corbett with the law firm of Hill Warden Henderson 101 East Kennedy Boulevard Suite 3700 Tampa Florida and I have been sworn we do have a very brief presentation William did a great job so I don't want to be repetitive to his slides the applicant is Meritage Homes they're one of the fifth largest home builders in the United States their target market is really that first time time home buyer and firsttime move up so they're important in the market for our Working Families and they are industry leader in Energy Efficiency they also have reviewed many awards for customer service um and they are rank highly against especially the Tampa division against National home builders in the area again this is the subject property you can see the future land uses in the surrounding area this property is unusual it is has a future land use of res 24 and it is surrounding by res 6 res 6 res 12 and res 9 and again the project details are it's 42.8 acres and we're asking for 250 likely Town Homes but we are asking for an option for Villas as well and on the left is the existing site plan for the 499 RV units that were approved for this location and on the right is our proposed plan which takes the density down to about half of that and we are offering uh fee simple uh single family ownership opportunities um this was our original plan that we filed and that we shared at our community meeting we only showed a 20 foot offset buffer uh and no fencing whatsoever there um we had our dog park

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located towards the north of the site and then we had our neighborhood park in the Central and then at that time we only had uh 81 visitor parking uh spaces and a total of 105 after input both from the residents and commissioner meeting meting we have made changes we have increased that buffer to a 35t buffer um and agreed to shade trees every 60 linear feet with shrubs in an outside fence uh and the fence is a six- foot fence visual screen we would be amable to conditions that require us to keep them clean I think we already have a condition that the HOA has to maintain that but if there's additional language that the commission would like to add um we certainly would be willing to entertain that and then again we've upped those parking visitor parking spaces to 25 um and we're offering a total of 149 parking spaces now these are elevations of the Town Homes uh we do have all of the conditions from your PM 26 memorandum even though we were under review uh prior to the adoption of that we did agree to all of those conditions that Implement PM 26 we do want to uh understand your vision and have heard your concerns loudly and clearly about things looking like barracks and not wanting that to condition to exist in your community and again comparing the prior approved to the proposed we're going down from 500 499 RV spaces and we're doing 250 single family attached units uh and again going from 24 units the acre to just under six units the acre and then we're increasing the buffering and uh fencing requirement um and so overall uh the feedback that we received at the community meeting we did have people that were concerned but we did receive a lot of feedback from people who are happy that we were not no longer having the RV spaces that we were providing a more permanent living opportunity here um on this site uh the neighborhood commercial to directing a buding US was very happy about the opportunity to have a thriving Community located right behind them to help uh their businesses survive and in the end uh we've been found consistent and compatible by uh your staff uh we we believe that we enhance the area and complement the existing residential development pattern in the surrounding area full compliance with pm 26 and then we're providing those two access points onto US 19 and we have no Wetlands on site um and then we have the conditions that we have reviewed in our agreement with and we are here to answer any questions you might have we have our civil engineer our enir environmental scientist and our planner and our traffic engineer so do you have any questions okay I want to say I do appreciate the meetings we had you helped move that parking number up because as we've talked before about so many times you get these town home projects that just don't have enough and try to squeeze everybody in so I appreciate that and um any any questions from well I just just going to say as everyone knows I wish they were rear

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loaded because I just don't think Town Homes work well front loaded um um can you go back to those pictures the elevations so what are we doing as far as trees and when I look I I see there's a magnolia there are we what kind of trees are we putting in in the front of the Town Homes I'm going to ask Betsy Jolly who's the planner okay for May hi I'm Bessie Jolly certified planner uh Ford planning manager from merage homes the applicant um we're adopting all the standards of PM 26 including the tree requirements for Town Homes I think it's a shade tree in the front Okay and the shade tree is not a crep Myrtle no I think we took out the substitution language that was previously available um then we're meeting the current uh staff approved and a a palm tree isn't a shade tree either so what what are I'm just curious what we're putting in because I've been driving by and granted I may not have seen come to any of the new ones with the new restrictions yet I'd like to see some some someone will tell me where some of the new ones are I'll show you picture one I went through at Oakley Groves the other day but um it's under construction that's that site looks pretty heavily wooded and so um I'm sure if you're taking out more trees than you're putting back in you're paying into the tree mitigation trust fund which is kind of our typical deal sorry not the landscape architect but the engineer I will do my best yes we'll be playing we'll be paying the $500 a unit for the tree mitigation fee on this one for sure yeah but um I really hope that in the spaces where you have um say in between the buildings or in any open spaces and I'm guessing now that we're adding more parking spaces in that's taking out some places where you could have put some trees back but I for one it's it's hard to watch all the trees go down so I'm just going to start asking for putting in you know nice trees wherever you can back onto the property not crpe myrtles not palm trees some some of our oak trees or Magnolias or something that makes a tree canopy um would be great fair enough that makes sense and also just just to point out we do have a lot of extra parking spaces on the site typically we count the parking spaces in our Park credits or in our Park required Park acreage in this case because that gets a little messy during the review we actually took all the parking spaces out of the Park acreage which means we've preserved open green actual park space and we're not trying to double dip and get sidewalk and parking space credit for it so we actually have a little bit more green space than you normally have for this many units which would be places to plant trees and are you doing um single car driveways for single car garages we'll be back to you in just a second okay we are yes CU I just have a

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thing against double car driveways for single car garage okay great excuse me sir could you go ahead and just put your name on the record yes uh Joe Simo W engineering 12363 Hampton Park Drive or sorry Hampton Park Boulevard Tampa Florida 33624 thank you and and it's good to see that these are not stucco top and bottom they've got some exterior um additions enhancements whatever commissioner snarky if I could condition 14 deals with the shade trees it doesn't specify which type of trees but if you would like to exclude certain types of trees as additional language in this condition we'd be happy doing yeah I I think we just really need to clarify that a crepe martle is not a shade tree okay okay well I I see them all over so um yeah okay all we're here to answer any other questions thanks any other questions okay this is a public hearing anyone else was anyone from the public he to speak to item p49 Dr Mar yot is the first one signed up he sent us something good afternoon my name is Dr marot I am the retired director of the Pasco County Health Department and have always appreciated the County's support of Public Health in Pasco County but I'm here on a different matter uh I I would like to say that uh we also spoke and I represent the committee uh for the highlands so maybe I get my full five minutes but uh I I would say that uh we all several of us spoke at the zoning meeting and uh you should also have on file our letter of objection and also uh a uh concise copy of what I'm going to talk about at the moment which shouldn't take too long uh we we basically feel uh and we do appreciate that jar the owner by the way is Miller not jar yet I guess that's all in negotiation but we we do appreciate the fact that the uh that jar has tried to accommodate some of these issues that we raised uh and we appreciated the zoning committee for taking our a letter and uh applying some of those conditions that we requested uh but you got to look at the big p uh picture here this is uh 250 units multistory uh tearing down an entire Forest uh where that will be gone when this uh uh project if it is approved we we still feel very strongly about denying this project uh because the big picture is what it does to the character of our community it just doesn't fit there okay uh so we still feel the zoning should be denied however we do appreciate uh that conditions the number of conditions we recommended were addressed so we pleased with that and we fully support those conditions if it is in fact approved uh uh we're suggesting uh that if it is approved you might consider uh continuing it to be sure that the conditions that are

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requested and including some that all add or if you agree with those additional conditions are fully met uh so you may want to consider continuing uh this request uh for the permit uh we appreciate the the the buffer zone that was very important and frankly the original designs had this community uh fence right up against the back of our property so we really appreciate this zoning committee making that recommendation uh we we really feel uh that with this buffer uh there will be uh significant reduced impact on our community but we are looking at shade trees at every 60 feet seems to be a little sparse uh we would like to see it more heavily uh more heavily uh planted uh behind that fence uh and we're looking at at least every 20 fet and and get some decent shade and hide that uh fence but that's something you'll have to think about the fence in our opinion and and I appreciate what commissioner starky said plastic fences don't hold up and require a lot of Maintenance they also don't do anything for noise abatement we recommended to the zoning board and we recommend again that that perimeter fence except for the exits be constructed in cinder block with Stucker o overlay and should be 8 ft High to me that would again uh work to minimizing the impact of this community uh on the highlands and on the Highland properties abing it all right so P PVC I give that a lot of thought that really is not going to be a very adequate fencing now Cher road which is their emergency exit need to we need to wrap it up I'm sorry I think we're past the three minutes I don't say the timer on I'm almost finished I I thought I had five minutes because uh I'm representing the committee but whatever uh it it won't take long honestly Cher Road should be paved that is unpaved and uh commissioner Mariano knows what condition that road can get into so if they're going to use that as an emergency exit uh I I think fire and and rescue should take a hard look at that road to make sure it's in a condition that they can get in and out uh we recommend traffic studies during Peak traffic hours uh because when mding is the pretty much the sole entrance and exit to our community and when we want to go south on 19 we have to go north on 19 first go over three lanes make a U-turn to go south on 19 and anybody that's familiar with that Community understands that now uh that traffic can be very nasty and that crossover can be ardous you're adding a th000 family uh you're adding 250 families with a potential of a thousand residents that are again going to be accessing 19 and adding to that traffic uh on 19 and we know what 19 is uh wellat wellwater serves Highland residents it is important to fully understand the impact of this project on the aquafer particularly their irrigation of great concern to community residents is the effect of this project on the rural character of our community that concern cannot be

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emphasized enough and that's really all I have to say is there any questions for my comments are there we don't do question and answer I'm sorry we don't do question and answer on public comment we don't do public uh we don't do question answer on public comment so I'm done you're done thank you thank you Doctor Linda Bell hello my name is Linda Bell I'm a retired Pasco County school teacher um and thank you Miss starky I heard about the fence that was one of my my concerns uh you're you're a dress man Haron your address your your home address oh I'm sorry 18329 Branch Road Hudson and whether or not you've been sworn pardon and whether or not you've been sworn have you do you acknowledge that you were sworn oh yeah yes thank you okay um one of my biggest concerns uh is of course the water we're all on private Wells and I happen to see this article in the um Wall Street Journal about this Lagoon with 37 million gallons of water in Pasco County the largest in the United States and I just have a concern where the water is going to come from the new subdivision in back of us we just had to put put in another well $8,500 um and I also talked to the one gentleman over there and he assured me the last time they were not going to clear-cut the trees well I'd like to see that in writing and Miss starky thank you again for bringing up the tree situation um and as far as defense yes we also are worried about that uh that there will be access to emergency bills and back we've lived in that place our 5 acres for 50 years and we've had people that set fires in the back and we've had to have the fire trucks come back there so we're very concerned that there's going to be access to emergency field uh uh vehicles in the back so that's pretty much my concern of course and uh there's a family of foxes living back there there's all kinds of uh animal life we have a a camera set up in the back a kind of a sporting and we saw see all the animals that night that walk around back there and that's our concern too and uh one gentleman mentioned about property rights when we were here before and I can agree with property rights if you have agricultural land why don't you have the right to keep it agricultural you don't have to constantly make every single agricultural into residential we really need some green on the ground and some blue in the sky oh I have one minute yes okay well that's about all I I don't know that what we can do at this point of course we'd like to keep it whoops we'd like to keep it pristine like it is now but we would appreciate any help you could give us as far as the water situation I did not hear where the water is coming from where are they going to get all that where did 37 million gallons of water come for this uh this Lagoon thing 14 acres so water is my concern sewage is my concern and the animals and the trees are my concern so thank you very much thank you anyone else you had to speak to this

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item chairman uh we just been I believe there was an ex-party communication that needed to be made uh accepted to the record uh from Dr yacht to staff is that correct thank okay anyone else from the public want to speak to this item anyone WebEx uh no sir no no one on we'll close public comment back to the applicant if you could address some of the concerns were brought up yes sir Cammy Corbett again for the record I'd like to have Steve Henry come up and address the condition of Cher Road and its suitability as emergency access in its current condition and and can you answer the water question real fast I think I heard you're hooking up to the county yes yes so so it's not well there won't be Wells all right so to be clear water and ser will be set up with Pasco County Utilities okay good afternoon Steve Henry linkston Associates 5023 West Laurel Tampa 33607 and I have been sworn as far as the emergency access to Chrysler road so that is one is it's an emergency so it'll be gated so other than emergency services but the reality is from a code standpoint we don't need it we have two accesses to US 19 so for this number of units we'd only be required to have one access and one emercy access we actually have two full accesses to directional meeting openings to us19 so the reality is if the board decides that we don't need that access or don't or the because of the residents we're happy taking that off that was really a request from staff to put that access on there as an emergency access but again it would be gated and used solely for emergency services thank you I also heard some concerns about uh species and wildlife of course we already have conditions in our PD um that require us to do the requisite studies prior to any kind of construction development and to follow All State uh Federal and local laws regarding that there's a concern about twostory residences our maximum height here is 35 ft just like the adjacent residential they can build 35 twostory 35 ft on their uh side as well um I did hear the request to move the trees to 20 ft apart instead of the 60 ft apart according to our civil engineer that that is too close but if the board would like to consider having them 30 feet apart instead of 60 feet apart that's something the applicant is willing to agree to that'd be nice I'd like that okay and the um condition 11 is the condition uh open space and buffering condition that talks about having to have the fence maintained by an HOA or a CDD um and if there's anything else you'd like us to address anyone on our team can do so but otherwise we just respectfully uh reiterate that we are a significant reduction in density that's much more compatible with the area than what's already approved and we would respectfully request your approval Mr chairman Mr County attorney um so while that condition 11 references open space it has no reference to the fence itself it can be included so yeah so I was I was going to recommend that

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it be added to maybe we we modify both the linear feed in 10 and add uh developers conditions covenants and restrictions shall provide for maintenance repair and replacement of the opaque fence since the opaque fence is referenced in that condition that would be more than acceptable to us thank you okay to the board um for me I I think the um emergency gate is good um one day the county will come in and fix Crasher um so so that'll that'll take care of that because we're changing the way we M maintain the roads um and it is a significant reduction um I just want to make sure that fence is maintained and that the trees as much as possible are put back in so with that um you know this gentleman this property cannot stay egg uh coming from an egg family um you know we tried it with our blueberry farm but it's not profitable and you can't ask a person to do something that cost him money and and this just is not the right place for egg we do buy land this owning is actually MPD it just doesn't have a site plan approval yeah so I mean there they were asking why can't it be and it's res 24 as your this is a d this is an improvement over what could have been there that mobile home park had been there there would have been no trees um but just making the comment on EG that because we we hear it a lot um and whenever we can in the county we're buying people's land who are willing to put a conservation easement or just sell it to the county and just before this we did buy I think it was 381 Acres 341 Acres so um we do that with our eamp money and thank you very much that's from our penny for Pasco and um we'll buy up all we can um but uh This Land is going to get developed and I think this is a good plan I just wish it was was rear loaded um but for me uh I will vote Yes with the changes and I'm I'm happy to see that they're going to move the trees to 30 feet actually that was a number I wrote down because I thought 20 would be too tight uh I'm happy to see that um this density again res 24 could have been a lot stronger a lot worse it is a big step down instead of 24 units per acre they're at six that's a that's a pretty good stuff and you're right on US1 19 they're right on US 19 so I think between that and the buffer it's it's probably the situation you'd see coming out different for development yeah I agreed yeah so I'll second commissioner starky's motion with since we're hooking the county water and Su sewer moving trees every 30 feet and that the HOA or CDD is going to regularly maintain the fence okay so I have a motion a second all in favor say I I I it's not doesn't not to be roll call no okay I okay all right motion passes three o I do uh have some concerns about the property to the north of crer um I'm always up here looking around on my iPad uh when when I'm looking at rezonings and things and um I'm not sure those businesses up there are legal and if these people are

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on Wells and they're storing all these trucks up there um I just want our staff to take a look and make sure that the properties and the businesses to the north of kryer have the proper zoning and approvals to be there okay don't want anyone with contaminated Wells moving to item p50 do we have proof we have proof of publication in the March 13 2024 I'm sorry correction February 7th uh edition of the Tampa Bay Times okay good afternoon Tammy Snider planning and economic growth Department we have item p50 zoning Amendment for Beacon Woods East n PUD Peg 24 7742 zoning Amendment from mpud to mpud to amend the master plan excuse me and conditions of approval to set forth passive uses that may occur in Golf Course areas um location is West Central Pascal County north of 5A Road and extending west of little road for approximately one and a half miles and there is the location map current zoning districts future land use context map we have several schools Parks hospitals here's a revised master plan um the conditions of approval were revised to include additional specific areas that may be allowed specific uses that may be allowed in the golf course areas um neighborhood par Park the entrance Road utilities flood plane compensation drainage and the most recent change that occurred since the last BCC hearing is controlled plants Gardens trees palms or Sil silviculture and with that we recommend approval with conditions ttim would you explain the conditions as far as um the golf course properties that that's going to be and have the opportunity to be given to the HOAs yes Golf Course um areas will U it the HOAs be able to and be amenable to accepting them they will be gifted to them um for their use as parks and open space and drainage and all that good stuff um and if they do accept the properties they'll be able to then even ask the developer to come forward to take out trees or in the storm water Pond that will be up to the HOAs yes that that that is in the conditions of approval okay very good any questions for staff no I am good with this one I'm sorry they have to wait so long all right so I know we have some speakers here well applicant first oh I'm sorry applic sorry good afternoon Barbara will height 6327 Grand Boulevard Newport Richie I can't imagine what else could be said about this one um Planning Commission went very well everything's been very well received I think we finally got all the solutions here um to work for everybody so I'm kind of proud of it and hopefully public common will go well and you'll support uh staff's recommendation thank you thank you we have some public here Carol we have uh the first one signed up is Karen Crow hello Karen Crow 9148 water hazard Fairway Oaks and I have been

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morning I'm here representing our HOA finally I'd like to thank you for the time and flexibility from commissioner Mariano and the entire board it has taken a very long time for us to be able to get through our paperwork um and thanks to the county attorney Goldstein we are now in the process of getting another opinion to allow our residents to vote on acceptance of this property until this time we have not been able to do that thank you very much thank you uh also signed up would be Jeff bomgardner Jeff bomgardner 7612 silven Drive Huds of Florida uh thank you Commissioners for taking the time you've been sworn Mr Bard you've been sworn yes I've been sworn thank you uh thanks Commissioners for taking the time to look at this one more time uh I just think uh after looking at the last proposal and everybody talking about about the trees and the beauty of a new development where this already has a real nice buffer of pine trees around uh I've been noticing a lot more nature and birds and things like that so I think you should take the uh the the advantage that we have right now of already being put in place and uh thank you for your time uh Jack brt I have been duly sworn in good afternoon Mr chairman and fellow Commissioners and legal council as well and Jack your address my name is Jack brummit I'm sorry and I'm live at 8542 Coral Creek Loop in Hudson Florida I am the President of our local HOA for the States and reserve of Beacon woods and I represent 480 homeowners there's an old Mo motto that states take things as you find them but leave them not so our community has been trying to do this for five years in 2000 uh excuse me in 2019 uh when the golf course closed um we've been trying to get this to today day uh for that for that amount of time on January 21st 2023 our community voted 87% to accept the offer of 25 acres of the O leaks golf course and the responsibility to REM maintain it the set property because of those delays of getting to the day uh in Jan in November 1st last year we signed a short-term lease agreement with Mr lman to lease this property so that we could take care of it uh accordingly we have purchased the necessary liability insurance we've also purchased a commercial lawn mower to take care of this property U I say all this to let you know that we we have skin in this game uh we have had countless hours of volunteer labor from our people the prepare the golf course for mowing and uh every time we have one of these sessions the first thing they asked me at the end of it when can we do this again so our attitude the attitude of our people are I couldn't ask for more from them uh i' would like to take this opportunity public to thank also the lman family for their generosity and allowing this this property to become our property

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we look forward to using this to enhance the value of our properties as well in addition the 25 acres being gifted to us old Fairways 1 2 5 7 8 9 10 and 18 will be taken care of by the new HOA for The Enclave of at Beacon Woods this is a uh green area for for them to take care of and the people that live on those Fairways look forward to that being taken care of equally today's vote will finalize the planning for this project and has been waited for by our residents for many uh mon months now since the closing of the golf course in 2019 this issue has been one that has divided us and today it's one that unites us we are backed by the by the people in our community and they're looking forward to having this property transferred I'm here today to ask you to vote a positive for this amendment planning commandment and uh I hope that that vote will be unanimous among you in closing I would like to say although this process has been frustrating at times because it's taken so long I respect the process I do and uh I know that we eyes have to be dotted tees have to be crossed and I'm I'm good with that and I thank you for the service each of you rendered to the people of Pasco County thank you for your time uh Joe Sears honorable commission Commissioners I have been confirmed happened a long time ago it was also happened today so my name is Joe Sears I'm a property owner and live at 13915 Tage Loop in Hudson this is in the reserve in the Estates it's adjacent to the development proposed by NVR Incorporated Ryan Holmes and referred to as the Enclave of Beacon Woods your approval and I hope his unanimous approval today is key to the success of our community and home values and we thank you for your Collective Vision in doing so I'd like to also to thank Ben Wilson uh of NVR Incorporated for the time he has spent meeting with our community the Pasco County also the Pasco County Planning Commission for their review and approval last month and especially the lman family who incredibly generous land gift to our community will impact our community today and for future families it's been as Jack mentioned a fiveyear journey since our community golf course ceased to operate by golf po golf course standards it was marginal but it was ours and we spent many happy hours teaching children and grandchildren how to play it was a course that supported the Hudson High golf team and while we saw golf support Wayne we hoped it would always be there it was no surprise however when Mr lman offered memberships like many other small courses throughout Florida to keep the course alive and even those who originally purchased homes on the fairways declined his offer indeed five years ago I attended meetings with the then County attorney enforcement supervisor and a member of this board promising Mr lman would be

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offered a choice to keep the property mode or he would face consequences this was a to me a low point in our negotiations we saw the fight between the county and landowner drag on despite this Mr lman agreed to meet with a small group of us at our home for a brunch one option proposed was a conservation easement which uh we followed up on which was considered in 2021 2021 from the information provided through Katherine starky's office and we followed up with Bill Bibby of the Florida land and Recreation Grant section in Tennessee I mention all this because this was not something that was a oneand done for us this has been going on and we have been working hard on this for five years and looking for Solutions we outlined a plan which had required hundreds if not thousands of Sweat Equity person hours to keep originally Fairways 2 three and four cleaned up they were the first the first group that you when you drive down Hudson Avenue you see that and by the way it was the homeowners that did this at this time with Mr Mr Lan's approval that was also at no cost to County taxpayers um unlike other golf courts in the county over 50,000 evergreen trees were planted on the property by the lman family in 2020 this followed up by an additional 500 trees donated from the State imp planted by property residents including yours truly in early 2021 the trees we nurtured like children and we are proud today of what we have which is quieter with owls wild turkeys and singing birds and yes coyotes which has always lived there this results in an Aesthetics and neighborhood morale boost we believe that our home values have improved in part due to the Aesthetics of a well-maintained Pine Forest and serves as a vehicle traffic sound in site barrier or Hudson Avenue when Ben and Matt offered 25 acres to our community our HOA leaders asked homeowners to vote their preference with 87% saying yes in January 2023 in closing I urge you to approve this change it'd be great to see it unanimous because it's been been for me personally a a long a wrong road um the road modification is the best traffic option for safe access into and out of our new homes being built adjacent to our neighborhood and families we welcome them thank you again thank you anyone else to speak uh that was the last person signed up okay I see someone in the audience please come forward like to speak good afternoon my name is Alvarez hyaki Alvarez 9218 water hazard Drive in Hudson yes I was warning thank you and thank you for the time um very quickly I'm a homeowner I'm not representing anybody else except other homeowners so we're a group of owners homeowners that want to see this project

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go forward we look favorably upon it and agree with the presentations made by Jack and his group our neighbors the reason I'm speaking now is because a statement was made about uh pending on voting and and uh and one of the reasons why the voting has not occurred yet is because there was misinformation given to the homeowners and so I'm stating that I'm worried that if we don't approve this or somehow continue to move forward and we wait on voting based on misinformation that that will continue and the rest of the residents will not get the right story so I'm not sure how that comes across to you I'm sorry I don't mean to be negative but uh we've been dealing with this now for years I live in the golf course it's my backyard um and I'd like to see that cleaned out and have nice walking space for our neighbors and so on thank you thank you is there anyone else in the public like to speak to this item is there anyone on the line no no sir okay we're going to close public comment back to the applicant applicant's good all right if I could I'd like to talk about this a little bit and five years ago I was with the people from um the whole development and it was a scary moment as far as what was going to happen a lot of things we talked about we had staff there attorney's office there to go through what could what could be done what could be done um I want to say the leadership of Jack Brett was phenomenal uh brought his people together uh push forward to try to make the best of the situation uh Karen you're doing a great job with Fairway Oaks as well bringing them together and uh I appreciate you're taking the time to listen and and I'm glad you asked for the advice of what our attorney would be able to take a look at it to get that because I think it's going to help you guys take that step forward um when this first started Fairway o was kind of like left out but um they are now back in the mix to have the same options to get the property just like the Estates does they'll have the same options in the storm water ponds to take out the trees if they say choose that the developer will take out as well so as much as this situation has changed dramatically for the folks I think through the long run through the work um our staff I think did a great job working step by step by step uh I asked a lot of tough questions and we did a lot of digging to try to make things happen um I even looked to a point where in case Fairway Oaks had trouble getting the property actually have the county be able to do an mspu to take it over we cannot do that as Guided by the attorney so we've got the best situation we could possibly get to benefit all the people to bring a positive project forward uh nice thing is the open space that's on our map H here uh that's all going to be lots that'll be 70 ft large so they're not small homes either it'll be a good

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quality home like in is in the neighborhood well I I'm for it you don't have to sell me no I'm just I want the I want the people to he um so with with all that said it's been a long haul but I'm glad we're to this point to actually put us behind the sun let life go on so um so we've seen similar things happen around the county like um in my neighborhood of Gulf Harbors where we had a golf course go under um we didn't have an HOA we had a voluntary civic association so we had to to a neighborhood vote and um do an msbu um it was contentious it's you know half the people hate me in there and uh half H some of the people are grateful I think that it took us years to get it but we finally have um our park and um we're just getting ready to cut a ribbon on it and I think it took seven years and eight years and six years of lawsuit or I I don't know long time um I just think you have the best possible resolution out there I think it's wonderful I thank the land owner and um and Barbara and your client for all working together it's a great resolution um and I think you'll all be very happy with it I think this is always a risk when you belong to a golf course Community where it's not an equity Club um someone else owns it someone else you can't force someone to lose money um so this was a great resolution so I don't if you want to say anything or I would make a motion I I make a motion to approve second okay any further discussion okay call the vote all in favor say I I I motion passes unanimously thank you all for the people in the HOAs especially did the uh can I ask the County Administrator a question um I talked to you about P-51 are we going to wait Mr chairman we're going to pass the chairmanship U well I asked him a question so maybe I'm going to bring it up oh you ask it's it's the next item come up on the normal normal routine all right okay all right so P51 we have proof the publication of this matter uh in the March 13th 2024 edition of the Tampa Bay Times Mr chairman this is an item that Mr Goldstein put on the agenda it it follows the the procedures that were outlined in the um Senate bill um however that Senate bill has not gone over to the governor's office yet for Signature and so I would recommend that you take public comment and continue this to your April 10th uh meeting at 1:30 or as soon thereafter as say maybe's heard in Dade City um that would be my recommendation as well is that a motion you I can't make a motion uh but we have to hear public comment first so I'll make it after you do that is there anyone here for public comment we have no one signed up in advance anyone on line anyone on the line no sir I'm Sor I make the motion to continue this item to April 10th second no we we we need to we're

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still good I'm just having fun with [Laughter] you we have to go somewhere I could have been there second all favor say I I you come out of your chair I don't want to mess that up anym that'll close our regular business now we'll go to committee reports commissioner W pass I uh sent Sonia some photos um I don't know which one's going to come up um okay I did my uh CEO tour I guess I'm not getting my picture from my husband I know he sent it to me somewhere so um this is us actually on the roof of the Duke power plant over there on Eno we first went to um amp skills cuz some of these manufacturers had not been there you might recognize Dan Tang from uh yeah yeah and um art Hadi who used to be vice president of Westinghouse Corporation um so former uh manufacturer um and uh we've got metler too we've got a lot of other companies represented the woman in the front is uh us water Salia and um at amskills we're working on tailoring a program for us water and other water utilities so that they can keep their talent pipeline going um that was pretty crazy going up that high and uh so after amskills and after the Duke power plant um which is now a natural gas plant it used to be oil um we went to the ankot uh anode um Lighthouse and okay this just blew my mind that is the bulb that runs the lighthouse the the beam which you can see for 14 miles 16 miles on a clear day is that isn't that insane that's I I I just had to take a picture of that um so um these are some Town Homes after our last meeting uh I was went to shops at Oakley Groves um I just I actually went to look at the apartments that have been added back there and um I saw these Town Hall homes they're not connected in any way to all the retail there which is a very set I think there's a pedestrian gate um but I had to drive all over the place to figure out how to get into these but I wanted you to see what a single car garage with a double car driveway what that kind of community ends up looking like and I want you to notice the trees that are in there those are crepe myrtles and so if if this is you know if this was 60 to 80% Ami Workforce housing I'd say uh but this is market rate and this is not good for us these These are the old rules these are just U wait uh can you go back these are Under development now I think Brad looked it up um um but I think we allow the crate myrtles right now so Brad Tipp play I don't know where I am anymore devel riew Department um yes uh crate myrtles are not allowed in the buffer along the roadways as a shade tree but they are still allowed on Lots where they want to use them as decorative trees or understory trees okay so I don't even call that even shouldn't be a tree so I would like to say now we need to strike that from that

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opportunity because that's what that looks like they only have leaves on it through the summer and the rest of the year they are bare and bald um and that is just I for me that's a that's a okay I'm known for just hitting it with a hammer not the most attractive town home complex um then this is in Westley Chapel there's another picture not the not that one didn't I send another one you like that one uh there so there's another view of it and you can just see what we've done and okay now you can go to their marketing one which is the one with that's what they that's what they show is what they're going to look like that's not what we got um so just to if I can just clarify that I understand you're concern in that but these were literally just constructed and those are under conru brand new plants they take time to mature that's not what it's going to look like forever Brad they only have leaves on them during the summer scpe myrtles drop in set September October and they don't come back till May June I have a I disagree with that because I do have a c myrtle tree in my front yard that is higher than my house and drops things on my cars year round but there are certain species that there are few species I have one in my front a queen and Sally got um cost me you know $400 for that tree that's not what they're putting it in here um it did get hit by the frost but I just our our issue in these types of bases and we we've talked about this pretty repeatedly is we've we've tried to move the the powerful root trees to places they won't destroy the infrastructure um which pretty much leaves you with the understory trees and Pals things like that yes the roots of these are we don't have a way right now to say it has to be a palm or it can't be a CRP Myrtle in in the way our code is written so if that is something that you want to pursue this board wants to pursue we can do that I will say the development Community generally pushed back on us when we kind of talked about that originally because they're they are a very useful tree and they're very colorful tree and and they work as an ornamental tree in lots of locations where other trees just can't work um so uh you know if you want to pursue that we can certainly I do because when it's the only thing it's not enough okay it's just not enough um palm tree will fit just fine right there is that a I mean I can we can talk does anyone else agree well I'll agree with you as far as I think if if it is a understory tree that doesn't carry height it loses its leaves I mean I look at you look you you look at US 19 they at all these trees they're dead in the prime of the winter season right and I I like that we put all the palm trees we did because they look better all year round so I I I do agree with that point I will say this though as Brad you just touch that a little bit when you have limited amounts of concrete around you or limited amount of open space you the palm trees work better and frankly I think that's a

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great look right there yeah makes a huge difference so we're okay with palm trees I don't front yeah that's what I'm saying put make that a p you heard that yeah I was I just want to make sure I got the best the best if we make it as an option you I think I think it's worth of discuss to mandate if you saying mandate uh and or well or if they wanted to offset every other I like this look but I mean both of them work for whatever reason I I think you could I think there are understory trees as well that don't drop their leaves like a lustrum tree um there is a bottle brush tree there's other well I have them yeah I know evasive we don't want them want bottle brush ours okay but lustrum isn't and um I you know but certainly not a crepe myrtle not a tree that drops their not a under story that drops their leaves and um but if you know they can do it with palm trees there's there's little maintenance in this kind of situation I think that's what they should be doing so we can we can start working on that as as far as a a code change um that will take time so the way to address that would be in the muds as they come through yeah um you know adding that language to say that you know in these spaces in front of town homes they should be something else whatever it is that the board wants but Mr chairman if I can add on on to this because there's another issue that that is is been bubbling up which is what your and this is a perfect example what you are shown in pictures at hearings what Brad is shown on Final site plans when it gets over to Nick's section at survey and Engineering well transportation engineering department um they only Bond the Land Development code required Landscaping they don't bond what they are showing on their plans yeah so there's [Music] no if they don't put it in other than a code violation for not filing their site plan there's no there there is no bonding mechanism for those trees to be installed and when the inspectors go out they're inspecting not what's I'm what I'm told is they're inspecting for what is Land Development code required not what they have promised on their MP so what I'm here is we might need a bond for the separate bond for the Landscaping well most of them are posting separate bonds for landscaping but what they're posting is only that which is required I see engineering estimates all the time that it's only that which is required for the land by the Land Development code so how do you recommend we fix this problem I this is a this is a pretty large scale problem because the the bonds would be related to individual properties that are sold with those homes uh those unit well no they're posting they're posting for their subdivisions right but they have to carry that Bond until it's all done right and all done and they may be selling units before their last building

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is done they're not going to do really Bonds on these very individual units like that uh it's a complicated issue we've had some discussions about how to deal with it how to deal with Street trees too uh in front of these locations where you have driveways because they get damaged in the construction of the home if you put them in early if you Bond them you can't get rid of the bond until everything is built at the very end uh so there's some kind of complex issues and we've been working with the the stakeholders on how to figure that out we don't really have a good solution yet but we're still working to try and figure that out you know um I get that it can be very hard for staff to go back out make sure every tree front has a I mean a tree in it it look look what happened in our County administrator's development in Beckley where blocks of trees never made it in right I mean no one caught it so how do we hold someone accountable until everything is done so I'm not sure exactly where you live in Bexley but most of most of Bexley was actually done back when our code still allowed for those lot trees to be anywhere on the L these were Street trees I think and they never put them they went back in after we py came back and put them in but it was years later so can you guys commissioner star is asking a great question how do we make it so that when someone's going to move into one of these homes that the Landscaping at least in front of their house was done is that is that what we' want and have well we'll work with the building construction team I see Ro Roy got some thoughts Mr so so right now supp can you hear me we're checking to see if the recorder is picking you up there I think we need to change those I don't know why you have to press the button well I want that too [Laughter] rolling the bus final inspection before Co our structural inspectors go out and get that plot plan out of the permit and go there's trees on here trees's sidewalk there's your sanary clean Etc but obviously they're not doing that they are doing that oh what is missing and we had this discussion with Builders Association this this past Monday or excuse me Monday was the plot plans don't go in the right of way they go to the back of sidewalk a and so the street trees that are included on the engineering plans aren't captured in that plot plan so we had a discussion with the four or five people from the Builders Association and asked what you know what's the expense for you to extend your survey to take in the whole lot including that 4ot or 6ot collar around the street that's technically in the right of and the answer was it cost is like an extra $8 so we're working with the Builders Association to get the word out to when they make their plot plans it will have

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those Street trees on the plot plan so our final inspection will captur okay that's good now that's just one step I will tell you also a major discussion point we're having right now uh we're having this this process mat through my team is is to how do we create a database everybody can see what mpud conditions are are made how are those then transferred and accessible to the people doing the horizontal construction plan review and then how are those conditions and the approval letter and those be seen by the BCS people who were doing the final uh the final assessment of the mobility fee so we want to have a unified condition of approval database that is accessible for everybody and and right now we we kind of have that but it's not great and so that doesn't answer your entire question but it gets us moving in that direction sounds good I'm happy good good job thank you all of you uh before we go a little further I'm me just item R38 uh Keith I was going to be presenting that today but with commissioner Oakley not here Mr Bradford not as well uh is going to bring that back another time yeah okay um okay and then I have Trails let me think what I was going to say about Trails gosh I can't even remember what I was going to say oh yes so I went and had a lunch with my with Charles Hines from Trust for Public Lands and and Nick joined us and I and how many people does Sarasota County have population yeah 350 are they as big as us no they're not as big as us they they never were as big as us I think there they were 400ish okay so I said you know that was a really pretty bike ped overpass that you showed us how did that get who paid for that and he said that they paid for that one with Obama dollars because they had a shovel ready project and I said is that the only one you have in your county he said no no we have at least four or five with two more getting ready to go and I said said and who paid for those and he said do cuz they don't they they they don't want their people crossing at grade on busy highways and Roads so what is wrong with us what is what is it about us are we not asking right that our citizens have to pay out of our own penny for Pasco to get these Trails over these State Road 52 State Road 54 um it's just I don't get it and I'm really hoping something's going to change here and if we have to go to Tallahasse and speak to the head of do actually I'm having dinner tomorrow with secretary prad who used to be head of do and I just want to understand what why we have three times the population maybe twice the population in 489 is there is their current population they are the 14th largest county in the state I mean there behind us yeah so he's getting me all the information on who paid for those Nick Nick's going to work on that and um also in penel County where they have more of them under

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construction as we speak and I think the state is paying for them um on the uh Coast to Coast Trail and so I just really am going to bang that gong until the cows come home or whatever um so um I did drive State Road 52 with um do last week uh we started in angelene and went all the way almost to 301 looking at the kogan grass and um they're going to come and make a quick presentation to us in Dade City and I already talked to the County Administrator and we'll have some staff there and they're talking about how they deal with it and they had some good ideas for us and um and you'll hear their plans for how to deal with it but the problem is getting worse and worse and worse and we we really have to address it I put holiday oh Holiday Park okay so um we did get our 30% uh drawings now of the anklet River Park as I mentioned before and um Keith and I will be holding a um what's probably going to be a very rockus Town Hall um at the Civic Center on April 15th so and we'll go over the plans and I think everyone will be happy to see 400 parking spaces have come out of there and there's a lot less pavement and a lot of trees going in being saved and um so we'll try and move that ball forward good yeah that all I I think there was something else but I'll reserve the right to come back in a second oh yes Ralph Lair can I can I go on go ah um I heard from Katie who I think left left a little early she went to the Kona meeting and she said there is a bill going through that preempts us from regulating trucks and commercial vehicles in people's front yards and I wondered if you had a chance to do any more research on that one okay that was the HOA Bill I'm not sure if that's it is it is okay because what if you don't have an HOA it only addressed HOAs for the first time ever the legislature actually addressed an ho HOA issues uh and within that they did put um an issue in there regarding Park that HOAs could not um deny uh individuals bringing in their work Vehicles crazy I think it was geared toward law enforcement vehicles but the way they wrote the uh the legislation was up to 26,000 pounds in a certain class category but I think it's you know it's going to be your individuals that may have like a County car or a work car or or police you know like I said a police vehicle uh those were being denied by HOAs in their neighborhoods okay so I thought Katie uh and that Kona they had they were alarmed because it could be the front cab of a uh it could go up to that height because it went up to 26,000 feet in a certain category that they allowed to so if you drive you know what do they call those long haul cab things yeah I don't know what that it had to be uh it had tract tractor trailer no like if you you're you're hauling um merchandise but had be a two AAL vehicle now if it's over two axles it was not you could have the front of it in your driveway now in a neighborhood I think we should oppose this Ralph yes was it a preemption strictly on HOAs so so their Land

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Development code would still control right it all I mentions HOAs you know within it so so we can still say they can't be in a any neighborhood if it only preempted HOAs from regulating it then then Land Development code wouldn't be affected if they if they did both of us then yeah but I'd have to look at it I mean and she said school buses and I mean great these are pretty big things that I mean the Kona was very alarmed so I I I don't want to see that in the neighborhoods all right County Administrator Mr garbella first here is by tax regards to 77 which makes some modernization the 14y old yeah some more consumer protections and he was asking if the board would not mind sending to the governor's office a letter of support in order to sign the bill it hasn't made it way govern desk yet but Bill 770 expands consumer protections for for home owners which include or not limited to additional disclosure requirements and increased contractor s while providing more information to the property owner to ensure they have better access to information about the case program before deciding whether or not that financing option Bas cont himself to provide a lot of additional disclosures but sen 770 actually codifies some of those so he asked would encourage support that I have a support the governor's office that like like chair sign it so we can okay yeah I'm okay with that with that okay I'll sign it the other item I had is just a reminder that uh we'll bringing a resolution forward on April 10th with regards to the next Tri County Workshop from County that is scheduled for April 18th we will be doing it at Ruth Becker Hall the next one I think we'll have it up in Tasco County but it'll be 9:30 to 12 it should be on your calendars right now we'll be talking about the legislative wrapup um which may include some discussion on live local uh opioids uh the NP merger Tampa Bay water as well as just idea exchange so more to come but just wanted to remind you that that is coming uh April 19th when when did you book that oh boy don't start with me sir no no well it's calendar because I look I had my calendar clear I didn't see it now I changed my plans so it's okay now but was almost like planed to go away from like a month ago back me up here it's all right I'm just saying okay anyway it's I'm okay with the date all right thank you sir do I have anything else so uh I do I I do need the board to um authorize us to issue a je if I'm messing anything up here let me know a notice of intent to Ward we uh at the jail we needed to change food vendors and so we have uh we have gone through a another process to hire a new food vendor uh that contract will be coming

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back before the board but if we get the notice of intent to award out now that gives the the vendors some assurances that this will be coming back to the board for for approval of the contract uh but uh it's it's a purchasing formality is my my understanding that I need board authorization for Mr chairman I would also authorize the County County Administrator to sign a contract if one is is available before your next board meeting that would allow us uninterrupted Service uh to to provide food to the inmates okay Mr sty uh just wondered if you wanted to share if there was anything um any updates on wir grass Ranch let's let's deal with this issue we got right now yeah so so they they they need he needs the authorization be to sign a food contract with the vendor oh you need a motion yes uh so moved what's the price the price difference is less than two cents a meal um over the current vendor over the current vendor what is the annual we had an annual cost hold Eric I don't know if you have it it's it's under $2 million I believe I can talk about Wire Grass if you want while we wait for that if that's all right so I'm sorry did you have a specific question ma'am no I just thought you were meeting with them I just wondered if there no uh so so our I know attorney Goldstein and some of our staff met met with with the porters the meeting went very well was very collegial and cordial and uh I think we're all working together uh towards Mutual ual Mutual same Mutual end so um I think we're on the same page um and also I wanted to say had mentioned to the administrator that no is here this summer in July in Tampa and if we have any good projects to put up for Awards in any of the Departments this is the best one to really put something good forward I don't know what that might be but because then you can be here present to to be there to get your Awards so um they always do best practice Awards which I always love going to and listening so um that is in July in Tampa if you can come back to me on the other matters so that would be great we'll just all right and Miss County attorney Jeff um would you want me to bring up the procedural rules uh sure so uh the the acting chair and I were talking at the lunch break um it is probably a good idea to add a second Vice chair to your procedural rules um so that there is somebody to step in should the chair and vice chair not be available in person for a meeting um there are many five member boards that have a have that additional second Vice chair for those contingencies uh we haven't for for whatever reason over the years you don't go beyond that because you wouldn't have a quorum if you had had to have a third vice chair um so we can we can amend your rules and U we can provide a draft amendment to your rules for your April 10th meeting if that's the desire of the

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board I mean I think probably not a bad idea that definitely was needed today yeah so okay let's bring back we'll be do we'll do that for you all right that's all I had thank you that's all okay Mr Clark uh we have nothing at this time okay still digging over there okay so I'll do my committee report um do you have the pictures of the derc boats perfect so we had a great work done with uh Curtis Franklin with the parks and wreck and Fish and Wildlife uh that is the last deric boat uh out of signal Cove done last week March 20 so a big steel hell boat that was sunk uh took it out um I'm going to ask if we can bring up uh maybe in a very short period of time Mr County attorney updating our County deric boat ordinance um we've got St Petersburg that's the City of St Petersburg has done one um I can get that to all of us so we going take a look at it and get the Atty county attorney's office but it may be one we want to adopt or at least consider it maybe at the next meeting we can have a further discussion on it so what your thoughts are all right and you have the pictures of the chesco parade so the Chasco parade that's uh myself there with my dad8 82 years old just having a good time out there I was noticing the barricades I was going to say notice a bar notice a barric it's all about the barricades but I tell you what uh keep on rolling through the pictures Mr mow there uh RC I love it big praise it was great weather I was waiting to catch beads as they're coming but yeah had great weather great turnout and everybody was safe all the way it's a nice parade it is yeah and I want to tell you the holiday rotary all the rotaries all the business people that have to use put so much time and effort into it we're just thrilled that we put those out there and uh our team JJ did a great job with this team getting out there Eric thank you very much uh coordinating all that to happen because once we get the barricades in the bases that they stand on they still had to be put together so it was still a major major effort but I think it was last Thursday driving through the city I'm driving down that very stretch right there looking at all the barricades that were up that uh know it was all going to happen so I just want to thank the board again thank uh Mr carbella Mr Stein Sneider for in purchasing for working with us to go through to take the steps we can move so quick and again holiday rotary took some steps to do the uh initial leg work to to get us to this point but uh great success for the oldest I think event we have in the county so and that's all I have do we have a number yes sir we'll that up to 2.1 million for the 12- month period second all in favor say I I I and commissioner Starker do you have anything else I could find something if you want me to we are jour

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uh thank you sir I

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