2.06.24 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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oh [Music] second [Music] he [Music] oh I'd like to call back to order the Pasco County Board of county commissioner meeting for February 6 2024 please silence all electronic devices and uh mute your microphones uh this is a public hearings starting with order es uh item 37 uh yes sir uh item 37 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times November 22nd 2023 okay thank you Mr chairman nario pitos planning and economic growth that mic to you a little bit Terry because it's hard to hear you for some reason sorry about that uh item p37 is PDD 24001 it's an ordinance amending the Paso County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map map 2-5 and ch23 from res 9 to Comm commercial on approximately 4.84 Acres of real property located west of State Road 39 at the Southwest intersection of chance southwest corner of the intersection of chansy Road and State Road 39 PA as Buckman Highway and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repeatability and effective date this comes to you with recommendation of approval of the comprehensive plan Amendment we can do a a presentation if one is desired okay so is there um is there an applicant for this one there applicant here on this one oh okay would you like to speak yeah s uh good afternoon uh for the record my name is Patricia Ortiz would you like my address yes 2810 nor Central Avenue Tampa 33602 um this petition seeks to uh resolve a conflict zoning the current land use Is Res 9 UM the zoning is commercial one we're seeking a uh small scale comprehensive map Amendment uh to the calm future land use designation uh this subject property is located um as stated at the southwest corner of Chanty Road and State Road 39 it is within the Zephyr Hills industrial uh Corridor um and I can answer any questions that you might have yes you'd like me to I have a question sure all right Mr Whitman thank you chair uh this full acres is it is it t get a larger commercial parcel I'm sorry I'm not sure I understand your question the the partial is 4 yes this par is four acres but is there on the is it tied into an even larger my questions related to local so I want to make sure that this there's a larger footprint than the four the four acres that uh we protect this property for job creating opportunities right it is not tied in with a larger parcel and um during the beginning of this Pro say staff asked us if we would be um in agreement uh

regarding a condition to not take advantage of the live local uh statute and to that we agreed okay okay thank you question so but this is this 4.8 84 acres is by itself is that's the only piece in this corner it appears that they've got residential to the sou there's residential and then and to the and to the west to the west and then johy and uh Buckman or the other side so it's isolated yeah I know the corner but it's it's a standalone commercial piece on that corner yes sir okay so we have anyone signed up for this item we do not no one signed up does anyone in the audience wish to speak to this item seeing no one uh pleasure of the board move approval second got a motion second by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford hi District Five commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z thank you so much move on to uh P38 P38 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times January 21st 2024 good afternoon commissioner Jeffrey mckitrick with Community Development assistant director and I'm back to request approval of an ordinance that revises our affordable housing advisory committee to come in line with current state statute uh at present we are with 11 members on our committee state law has allowed now8 to 11 and so we would like to go to that and you will appoint these members with by res resolution we should be bringing that back in a month and the committee will meet by anually and submit a report to you currently the ordinance is a tri-annual report but state law now requires that a report be submitted every year from uh The Advisory Board and so basically you just look at incentives that could be used for affordable housing it is just an advisory recommendation committee and that is all um we're going to going to request approval and then appoint members and they will begin meeting in late March and hopefully have a report to you by June of this year and we request approval with any other questions any questions nope that's public hearings okay it is a public hearing has anyone signed up for this item no sir no one signed up for the item is anyone in the audience wish to speak to this item see no one I got a motion second and a second uh by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman District three commissioner starky I District Four commissioner Bradford I District Five commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z thankk you move on to U item P39 these are public hearings uh Mr sein will you read procedures be happy to Mr chairman there are two resoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning

Commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given 3 minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the resoning May at this time request that the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not not you've been sworn for the record these are Quasi judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria or resoning found within the board's Land Development code Madam clerk would you like to swear the public in yes sir um if anyone is going to speak to any of the items if you will please stand and raise your right hand do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the TR so help you got okay thank you okay P39 P39 uh P39 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2023 good afternoon Commissioners Denise Hernandez Planning and Development item P39 is PDD 24 7639 it's a zoning amendment in the name of Timber Ridge mpud master plan unit development um this it item the request is to continue the item to the April 10th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in D City your agenda memo has the incorrect continuent State move to continue time certain second all in favor motion seconds all in favor District Two commissioner waitman District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford hi District Five commissioner Mariano hi district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 we move on to P40 P40 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2023 P40 s PDD 24 7718 it's a zoning amendment in the name of Circle K at New State Road 54 and Prospect mpud stream fruit LLC the request is to continue the item to the March 12th 2024 board County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in date City move to continue time Ser second got a motion second all those in favor roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford hi District 5 commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z move on to p41 p41 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2023 p41 is PDD 24776 new

Clinton LLC it's a resoning request the request is to actually continue the item to the March 12th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in D City move to continue time certain second got a motion second by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky I District Four commissioner Bradford I District 5 commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z move on to p42 p42 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times November 1st 2023 p42 is p 2 47708 it's a zoning amendment in the name of St Leo Commons vop mpud r dpd5 or V LLC the request is to continue the item to the March 12th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in D City move to contined time Ser okay got a motion second second by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford hi District 5 commissioner Mariano hi District 1 chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z move on to p43 p43 was advertised in the Tampa pay times November 22nd 2023 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings Mr chair can we please move to p46 yes we'll move to p46 okay p46 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2023 and by affida certified mailings and site postings item p46 is PDD 2424 it's a comprehensive plan Amendment CPA 2301 for Fletcher um this item the item the there is a request to continue the item to the March 12th 2024 border County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in date City move to continue time sir Mr chairman this was advertised for Action so we give the public the opportunity to speak to it however if they to speak to it today they will not be able to speak to it on March 12th is anyone here to speak to this item we have one individual signed up Mr Roberto Garcia uh would you like to speak to this item today or would you want to wait till March 12th he's going to come back he said earlier he's coming back okay okay that's good all right um anyone else I guess okay I have a motion in a second anyone else in the public that wish wishes to speak to this item seeing none okay got a motion in a second second the motion I think I cut the commissioner off after he made the motion so it probably needs a second second okay Miss sty we got a motion second by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman District three Commission starky I District Four commissioner Bradford I District Five commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z do we go back to pick up the rest of the consent agenda 4343 okay I think the advertisement was read on that one it was it's uh p43 is PDD 24 7655 it's a zoning amendment in the name of Clinton Avenue mpud master plan unit development CC Waller revocable trust it's a resoning from an AR agricultural residential R2 low density residential an r1h single family mobile home

District to an mpud master plan unit development District to allow for the maximum development of 399 single family detached units and town homes it comes here with a recommendation of approval with conditions I do want to mention that there were expart Communications uh between the applicants representative and all the Commissioners uh those have been provided to to the clerk's office and to the extent that they may not have been we will be providing those okay is there anyone sign up for this item no sir no one sign up for the item is anyone in the audience wish to speak to this item um I well I have or excuse me speak against this item well I don't all I have is this one page it's a consent now for 43 oh wait a minute wait a minute I'm sorry that's the wrong one wait sorry that's 42 um can so this is if you're not if you're going to speak to it we'll pull it off consent it's on consent is is Clark here I know Clark I see so many of these I just don't remember it can I just get a little presentation I'm sorry so pull it off I would suggest you pull it off consent let me pull it off consent we'll come back on to the next one so pull it off over here we'll move on to uh p44 p44 was advertising the Tampa Bay Times November 22nd 2023 and by affida of certified mailings and site postings p44 is pd24 7751 it's a zoning Amendment under the name of Thomas J Ambrose II and Jennifer Ray mcneel it's to for a change in zoning from an AR agricultural residential R1 rural density residential and R2 low density residential district to an mf1 multiple family medium density District to allow the development of a total of 42 town homes with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction which basically incorporates the requirements of PM uh 26 memo which includes um monotony controls architectural standards tree planting um Etc um this comes here with a recommendation of approval from the planning and development department and the Planning Commission who heard the item on January 4th 2024 okay is anyone here to speak against this item seeing no one let it stay on consent move on to p45 p45 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2023 and by affida certified mailings and site postings item p45 is PDD 24 7761 it's a zoning amendment in the name of ji piranha Lo it's for a change in zoning from a C2 General commercial District to an i1 light Industrial Park District with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction um that uh reserves the uses to those uses in the i1 district um which is also known as the live local deed restriction comes here with a recommendation of approval from the planning and development department and the Planning Commission who heard the item on January

4th 2024 okay is there anyone here to speak against this item b45 there's no one signed up no one signed up no one here to speak against it it remains on consent item and we move on to p47 p47 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2023 and by affida certified mailings and site postings on item piece 47 which is PDD 2465 today we're asking that you approve the transmitt to Florida commerce and other reviewing agencies this is a comprehensive plan Amendment CPA 2310 Grace and Truth El lamp providing for transmitt for the proposed comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map-15 and Sheet five from res one residential one dwelling unit for gross acre and AGI AGR agricultural rule to con conservation lands on approximately 318 Acres of real property located north of State Road 52 and between the Cent Coast Parkway and US Highway 41 again uh please approve transmittal to Department of Commerce and other reviewing agencies okay is there anyone here to speak against p47 there's no one signed up no one signed up no one on web acts correct okay um no one to speak yes I entertain a motion for the consent agenda move approval exactly that's a great project I got a motion in a second uh by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford hi I'm sorry that's okay District 5 commissioner Mariano hi District 1 chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z the consent items we will go back to3 uh p43 uh Miss starky well I I just had some I just want to see that layout again and I realized I had sent something to Clark but it went to his office phone and instead of his cell phone so now I know why you didn't answer me my questions on this so I apologize I don't know how that I don't know how that's happening um all right Mr hobby uh Mr chairman uh Clark hobby hobby and hobby PA 109 North bre Street Tampa Florida have been sworn staff is pulling up our concept plan that I showed to the Commissioners and exp parte meetings but did not leave with them I'll give you a little bit of a rundown on the project cuz it's been a couple of months just to refresh everyone's memory so this site is on the Waller family's property obviously we lost Mr Waller recently and um it's uh actually directly across from where Mr uh commissioner Oakley lived for many years beautiful piece of property on the north side of Clinton Avenue where the four laning is now occurred the whole area is res 6 or res 9 most of the property directly north of the project running all the way to 52's been annexed in today's City and when we filed the project uh 1824 months ago it included a substantial multifam component we completely retooled it with a lot of work from Florida Design Consultants and uh Brian Panico at Dr Horton and the plan you see here today eliminated all of the multifam it's only

tow houses and single family detached uh and the density is approximately 15% less than the future land use would have allowed other amenities that we've talked about that you know the plan shows you is couple of things we're leaving extra property on the Clinton uh extension and an additional rideway for the county to bring its Trail there and as you can see I think it's shown on the plan and it's on the mpud master plan we have a 12 uh foot wide uh path of our own that's coming down their multi-use path that will join in with the County's uh extension that obviously is more Regional in nature and then there's a combination of on-site Trails running around the big lake that you see there in the central feature and lot of on street parking and we have significantly more Parks than the code requires on our plan so I'm really proud of the plan I think it's a great plan um and happy to answer any question questions you may have about it so Clark you have um these blocks are eight town eight town homes in a row um um I think Max Max they're eight and they're all front loaded yes is all the product in here front loaded I believe so correct that's correct we're front loaded we do just for the commission's benefit we didn't have to comply with the newer memo with regard to the new architectural and and green space and stuff because the Project's been in so long but we voluntarily agreed to comply with that so we're meeting all those requirements commissioner that you wanted last last year lot sizes lot sizes we meet everything we the only thing I know townhouse that's right yeah that's right looks like they've got the AR the dark orange is 40 by 110 and the little yellow is 50 by 110 right so we 50s that's right 40s and 50s and towns that's right but we did again we met all of the new memo even though we didn't have to for everything but the sidey yard setbacks so we met everything else voluntarily okay so again I think it's a great project it's we uh commissioner we discussed before beautiful view sheds with the parks we created from the entryway a lot of thought has gone into that with the Horton and Brian panaco and Rob rosard FD to create a very special place and have a so the backyards of the town homes are going to be fronting Clinton Avenue there's a big buffer in between there'll be a wall there see that that's a storm water d Road the backyards of those houses are going to be facing Robert's Road this would be the back yeah on the on the North side yes on the North side that's a that's a dirt road just so you know yeah very rural dirt dirt road I got to figure out a way to get re loaded Town Homes I just this is a great project commissioner I mean we made 18 I am not a fan of front-loaded toomes know I think they are that's that's why not good for the future of our commun but that's why we came up with a memo last year to improve on them so yeah that's why we're

following it okay thank you thanks Clark yep thank you anyone else uh to speak to the project see no one pleasure the board make what x what x no no no move approval no I got a motion there's two other Commissioners that can second I'll second I'll second from the from Mr Whitman second all those in favor by all those in favor by uh call vote District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford commissioner Bradford hi District Five commissioner Mariano hi district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z move on to p48 yes sir p48 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times January 7th 202 24 and January 14th 2024 good afternoon Commissioners uh the real property team has received a petition to vacate platted RightWay in Alleyway filed by Tabitha Wallace and Mark Evans the purpose of this vacation is to create one property for a homestead exemption there were no objections to this petition and the team recommends approval and the petitioner is here if you have any questions I'm kind of a fan of alleys let's go back to the map where it shows right away um maybe the next map okay I I don't know where this is in context to anything else but does that does that readed mean that we've been vacating those that's the yeah that's the portion that's being requested to V well there there's two red lines so what's that mean there's the northern portion is an Alleyway and the bottom portion is platted right away well how is there a house built in the Alle it's yeah it was something that was done way before I'm unsure of how it was there wait there are multiple houses in the alleyway that's correct yes yeah again this is all all paper roads and Alleyways been there for many years like how like how long uh I don't know an exact come for come up okay introduce subdivision it's back in the 19 for the record oh sorry Tabitha Wallace you want my post office or my physical address physical address 39330 Wayne Avenue now it's called dat City but it is Luchi and were you sworn in she doesn't need to be for a vacation but that's okay okay then never mind I will be if you want me to don't worry about Okay so the the property was own has been owned by my grandfather and the family for my mother is 70 will be 707 78 this year and she was about 10 years old when my grandfather was in the service each month my grandmother bought a lot of Miller's Miller subdivision is what this is called and the house built there my grandfather built my mother put in the pool and the other house you see there that's the pool house in between and the big house that I live in and my mother lives in the pool house and then the field and my brother Mark Evans is

my brother and he lives over in the corner here so because of the property my mom put it in our name she split up the field and all to him and put the house and everything in my name and so now I want to file homestead as one and I can't because of the road the street and the alleyway that's never been used it my grandfather remember me home um growing a garden there I always had the the shop that's a big shop you see there is not a house there beside my house in the garage it's never been a road it's never been an Alleyway ever and I am old or two so in my in my lifetime I'm not going to say h so but it's never it's always been our family property and my father my grandfather has always maintained it and we've maintained it there never been maintained by the county right and the we got permits for the pool we got permits for the buildings all that was in the alley and the alley yes and my my stepfather which is not with us anymore he actually came down and did something at the property wherever you paid all that years ago I wasn't involved in it then but so he come in and paid for the to get the permits and did everything this so we thought actually all that was taken care of years ago but now that it's in my name I'm having to pay full tax and not able to file homestead and that's the reason I'm here today is to try to get it all as one and this is in Luchi area right it is in Luchi yes sir so this an area where it is plat book two so it's really old wow it's been like this for a long time and because for 64 years Luchi has been going backwards because of the CER plant leaving correct uh many years ago so uh that's why some of this was planted this way I suppose but never was recognized I guess move forward well I wonder if there's some cleanup we need to do in that area I I mean does the county ever go in and oh yes clean up not make the res hire attorneys or whatever to I don't know what you had to do to get to this point but I've been working for two years no the county the county doesn't go in and vacate vacate vacate Its Right of ways um unless there's a request well yeah I'm thinking that was you know I love alleys but I see what's going on here and we're not getting any taxable income from those alleys no and if they were in the property wouldn't it be better for us yeah the I don't know you've got these all over this would be a full team job yeah yeah it's a big one I mean look at Wayne Road that's not I don't I don't even understand what's going on Whose property is Wayne Road Wayne Avenue that road you see right there is actually my property that's part of my property it goes over if you look at the right how each sub division how the line green lines it's it's crazy the way they did that however many years ago like as you were saying years 100 years ago yes so it's it's very hard maybe that's the reason

development department and from the Planning Commission who heard the item on January 4 4th 2024 okay has anyone signed up to speak against the sign no sir and not on okay no one here to speak anyone in the audience wish to speak to this item seeing no one move approval second got a got a motion a second all those in favor by roll call vote District Two commissioner waitman I was that nay sir I no it was it was I okay thank you thank you for the clarification it's important District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford hi District 5 commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oakley I motion pass 5 Z that's the end of the public he and we will uh chairman yes sir thank you I just want to make comment p49 uh the folks the advocate for p49 I just want to say appreciate them taking the amount of time they did talking talking to me on this St facility I know staff be coming forward with with a plan on how we how we kind of manage storage facilities moving forward um I this is this is appropriate out of all the places fairly appropriate spot to have storage and you know Tu back limited on its height uh in the footprint of it it'll kind of you just sneak right sneak right by it so this is just an example of uh where storage probably should go and um I just wanted to to share that with the with applics thank you they're here so okay thank you all right have we heard anything uh Ral do you want to give us a report of some sort live local live local or or anything with legislature that might bring interest to us Ral Ralph was here just W he walked outside oh he did can you see get a phone call might be on the phone things are fluid he's checking in on some things right now okay any just a second so we hadn't heard of uh David have you heard anything or no I was emailing so I I had some initial exchange with Ralph and based on his early read no change at this point in time but that there could be a late filed Amendment so he may be checking on some things but right that was as of uh 205 when I texted him okay so see if he comes back in here he comes well this way oh he getting notes pay no attention get your paperwork we've been kind of waiting on you kind of we didn't know if you had something to report to us or not well you all been focused on live local first Ralph Lair intergovermental Affairs officer um right now no amendment has been filed but know that late filed amendments could happen so we'll wait and see on the live local there are other bills yes out there but um I'm going to concentrate on our Appropriations so going in to Appropriations House and Senate this week will vote on their Appropriations

bills and as it stands out of our four items three have placeholders we have the Parkway Boulevard uh sidewalk project it's in the house side troby Road got put in on the Senate side the senior center got put it on the Senate side so we're doing good the only one that did not get in SE Pines that can be a water project oh the water came out Water Project only on the city Side not on the house side oh still have hope so that's where we're at I could go through the other one ones that imp packed our County that's up to you all yeah that's your what what we got all right briefly there is one for Pasco fire has a placeholder on the Senate side for radio replacement the sheriff's has a placeholder on both sides they got half of what they're asking for so that's for their mental uh physical and emotional health center uh date city has one project in it's basically in bringing money back for the intersection of Meridian Avenue St Joe Road is that for the roundabout it's not going to be a roundabout now they're going to have a five point intersection I think they're going realign the roads yeah uh new Pari has one project in play for their fire station and for their mobile library branch San Antonio has a placeholder for their elevated water tank which is their Town Center uh or uh St Leo I should say St Leo uh Town Center has a placeholder on the Senate side zeper Hills has a placeholder for their phase three septic to sewer on Southside transmission uh fdaa got a placeholder oh we do yes how on the Senate side on the Senate side yes okay how much uh right now it's 750,000 it's just a placeholder okay so you have to tell me how to help and skills as you know it's in both sides there's a placeholder well I shouldn't say a placeholder there's money in written on the Senate side for a Florida National Guard Armory that just came up so uh that's in zeper Hills OH where that would so basically it's the money coming back it was it was it was taken back because they haven't done anything it's coming back to the uh to the city so it's just still in play yeah uh Habitat for Humanity has a placeholder for their affordable home home ownership for pinelis and Pasco there is a placeholder in place for the us41 widening preliminary engineering that's from 52 to the count l Road is that the West Bay one there's um money in play now for Kirkland Ranch L acquisition oh really for the uh like an e- lamp or a for conservation it's actually the purchase at land so no building would be done on it um there's money in play for the East Pasco Cultural Arts facility in zeper Hills there's money in play for w way extension there's money in play for Sunlake uh

Boulevard there's money in play for the Pasco pedestrian over bouard now is that wasn't there before was it it's been in there but they're not ours these oh but I I didn't think it got any it got a placeholder a place on the senate or the house uh Senate uh for uh two of the projects the P Pasco pedestrians on the house side so they're in play going into conference phsc campus nursing um facility at Porter campus got a placeholder in the house the Academy of spectrum diversity that was one that was a Burgess project has a placeholder in the Senate than impax Pasco Youth and Family Alternatives has a placeholder for their facility in the house and the public historical programs and educational opportunities at Zill Museum of military history has a placeholder on both sides and then finally United Way of Pasco County transitional housing for survivors of human trafficking has a placeholder on both sides so we have a lot of things in play that will impact Pasco County remember last year we got I got a copy of the list of all the different places people could ask for money and we we really want to encourage every nonprofit everybody to go after so we're seeing that we're seeing that with our our municipalities which except for Port rich was the only one that didn't ask yeah um so they're really stepping up to the plate it's not you know I think they all realize it's you know they just need to you know look and see where they can get either the state or federal dollars and not always to the county yeah well this is better than I I thought it was when we were we are sitting pretty going into so now it slow down once they pass these out they'll probably announce conference probably around the time to come back from Easter or not Easter but uh in about a week or two they'll probably announce conference and then go into there and finish up as say end March 8th that's the same way with the tax P package that has been brought up that will be like the Appropriations Bill toward the end and when's the end what's the end March 4th or the March 8th March 8th Friday March 8th so what do we um I think we we've lost our our real push that we had started because we've held up and held up and then we had conversation with fac instead of the Senate president's office so where do we stand should we we went into should we go ahead and send a letter or just still be on hold and not do anything and then get a bill that we're going to have a hard time working with what's the suggestion from I'm I'm I'm seeing an amendment filed I don't know what the there that was filed this morning that was filed this morning is not and it's not by the president's office and and David's already REM made that amend I see thank you so now that it could be filed late I think as far as the letters that's really the pleasure of the board at this point David want come speak to it so I think John's recommendation

would be to be send the letters out tomorrow because then we'll know for sure what the Senate did or didn't do after after the hearing on hear okay and from a legal standpoint whether I send him this afternoon or tomorrow morning there's no difference okay so I don't think there's any harm to wait to see if there's a late filed bill or late filed amendment I mean it is the Senate president's office so if anybody could probably get away with file anything late it's probably the Senate President so I mean Jennifer said she was going to file something so I'm a little shocked that well this this amendment is is timestamped for today at 1:25 the one that I just the one that I just sent to I'm getting reports that there's amendments currently being filed as of like 15 seconds ago so I think the bottom line here is we need to pay attention um I think we stick to the plan the plan is is if we don't see anything that represents what we've discussed here for for Pasco County in this forum especially by Wednesday then we we'll we'll make that decision and if we need to discuss individually do that point the letters are ready to go okay I mean and we've added email addresses and everything so ready to go all right so I think I think you should take the information we got between the chart um this the verbatim you've written up as far as what they can uh put into a bill get that to our state senators and our state legis uh State House house members too and let them know was still concerned very concerned about this I'm saying in case in case something you getting so he give us a moment uh to review the amendment uh it was just filed at 221 by the sponsor of the bill so he's going to break it look at it on my phone so industrial is removed did did did you get that from Sean no it's on it's online right now it just it just popped up there's a lot of language here I apologize I'm doing this last second here um I'm not seeing our language or anything close door like David did you see that industrial was removed are we looking at the same thing so where you which line are you at line 12 o good okay maybe I don't know if we're looking at the same bill my line 12 he's talking about floor area Rao multiple multiple amendments it's this one he's reading that one that's theate file Amendment on the floor I'm sorry he was on the wrong one my mistake okay no the version I'm looking at does not remove industrial M nor does it have any of the language that we talked Jer for about yesterday it seems to just be slight modifications to Prior things dealing with like Flor ratio and height and airport it's this looks to be just sort of the technical changes that Jennifer described this mic I don't see I don't see our language in here

so I'd say we go with the plan after the it's after it's voted on in the Senate chambers tomorrow then if we don't have the language you want we fire fire the pap so since you brought it up it's a normal procedure so tomorrow is the first uh time it'll be heard on the floor uh and then they're scheduled for Senate on Thursday will when they'll take the final vote unless they roll it over immediately which they could do tomorrow and pass it out on the Senate so so just know tomorrow they'll take up the Amendments they'll they'll talk they'll have debate and then the final vote would be on Thursday morning okay when they uh when they meet and then I don't anticipate and so it'll then be sent over to the house they'll get it Friday at this point I don't anticipate the house moving or hearing it in a committee until possibly next week but until they get the bill they're not acting on the bill on their side but I will say according to Sean it's unlikely un the problem since this is the Senate president's bill it's unlikely the house is going to make I mean let's say any any changes were going to be something that that had come from that office pretty much um anything that's going to happen is going to go that way but at least we put it out there in front so at least our members need to know about it they need to make their comments however they think best to do it but we just need them informed so the talking points I put in some PowerPoint slides to mik M for you I was I just forwarded it to you and to commissioner Mariana and I would then send it to I would send it to the entire delegation let them let them all just let them all know okay so we got nothing short answer is from what I'm reading correct so thank you well well part of that problem we should have file those letters sooner but we were talking to what we thought was let me office commissioner Simpson did ask us to quote stand down until this week we you know went to this finished this process with this discussion with the Senate President talk this and even the Senate President said and when this all started said I have a cell phone let's talk about it first if you don't like what I I come up with then go ahead and sue me that was her quote in the paper so now we're not suing the Senate President I want to be clear right she keeps saying that we threaten to see the Senate President but our lawsuit is against the apartment complex is not the Senate President right I understand that but um I think we we had a in my opinion it was it was a good faith effort to go try to get the law changed and I think we made some good suggestions unfortunately Senate President didn't agree with us so we're going to plan B yeah okay we have anything else we need to discuss today good well um let me ask you let me see let me see if I have this

right sorry I was sending off the complain because we're not going to meet again before this session I mean it's going to be well so do we have clear direction to what we want David to do did you just say that I miss I think you does so okay I might have missed yeah so you actually already gave me direction to go ahead and start the demand letter litigation process to wait so but but but we we did wait to see if we get any movement with a legislative change our last hope was honestly commer Simpson discussion with the Senate president's office if that didn't go anywhere which it appears it isn't going anywhere then you've already given me direction to proceed with the demand letters and the litigation you think we should touch base with welon one more time I I'll call him let him know well I was just wondering if David the the direction that I see is basically if the bill moves out of the Senate without any without the amendment language we're looking for we we F we file the demand letters because it can still change on the senate floor right Ralph yes that's because I thought I heard that that's where the action was going to happen was on the sen floor it's a higher standard I believe Ralph would you I'll let Ral speak to that but that may be why Sean asked us to wait until the actual Senate vote right before we send any letters Okay so possibly another amendment could be filed it could be changed on the floor again it's in the Senate the president's in the seat she's it's her bill so if they're going to change it it's going to happen tomorrow could be another late filed or tonight another late file so if you want to wait until after that procedure tomorrow for you know you can do that and then they'll take the final vote more than likely on Thursday or they could roll it over tomorrow but today or tomorrow it's be done it's gonna be in the Senate not on the senate committee and on the floor it's going to the full floor now all 40 all 40 Senators will vote on it I think we owe Wilton uh respect to let them know that nothing we don't see that anything came out in the amendment that was helpful and that this is our plan I think we should we need to touch with him first and then and wait till tomorrow okay yeah we let's wait till tomorrow anyway but I plan to talk to him and the others as well I also um want to get the list of the fhfc applicants maybe we can even go ahead and see if any have applied yet um we may need our as you know representative Jer was a little more successful in getting those lists yeah than than we were so my guess is if a legislator calls up and asks for the lists if we called we probably get an answer that they won't be available till Friday when when when they're done so I was thinking maybe we wait till Friday at 5: when it closes but maybe we just go

ahead and see if they can ask what time is it yeah well I want to be clear if Pasco gets any more applications between now and Friday we'd be sending demand letters to any new applications in Pasco yeah um I can't speak to what other jurisdictions might do I mean our best case scenario 25 of them have applied in leyon County to come off and we get more people's attention at the crazy it's going to I'm sure Leon County would agree with you but but I mean for us yeah that would change a lot of things I I just you know we're we're so standing alone on the island right now but we gave them a fix that could fix that Island well from what I can tell they didn't do anything to help Gainesville either from that from what I'm reading because they were looking for some kind of student student I'm not seeing any language that addresses gainesville's concern in that and it wasn't only Gainesville the senator from Orange County spoke up about the housing around UCF now is it theoretically possible that that could be addressed in the tax bill this you know the future tax package yes there is still that possibility that that they could not fix the land use side but still fix the tax side it seems like a remote chance given that they didn't help us on the Landy side but is it still a possible yes I think by sending the demand letter out providing we're comfortable with that with commissioner Simpson and all I think it might even send a message to the others instead of applying to see what plays out anyway so might might be better for us to do it period yeah and as much as I would like other jurisdictions to help us out you know my goal from the start of this was to protect Pascal County and so that's why we got the demand letters that's why we got the complaints drafted against the two in Pascal County and we're prepared to sue any of the projects that come in in Pasco County maybe we did have a meeting maybe we'll create our own Carbell I did have a meeting yesterday with Mr carala David Goldstein and David Engel with one of the live local applicants on 54 and they are not going to apply for the uh to go from C2 to live local but they they have you know vertical mixed use request coming in so I I would say that that's a positive of all this is that the board's action directing us to sue any L applicants in a vo live local has worked a lot a lot we've got a lot of projects that are just like the one you talked about commissioner stury when they originally going to apply for the local have backtracked and said we'll just go through the county County's normal process and then they then met with us to try to figure out what is it the county wants to get my project approved so I think on the lanu side we've been fairly successful in warding them off tax is a different story because I

don't know yet because we haven't sent our domain letters yet on those two well I guess we I guess we're going to find out y so we're going to wait till tomorrow to send them and the day tomorrow unless commissioner Simpson directs us to take some other act commissioner comes commissioner Simpson without a due respect to commissioner Simpson if he asks us to stand down another day or two I probably should honor that request I agree well the other the other thing is if the bull if the bill gets pulled from the Senate basically they temporarily pass it then we'd wait until they took action yeah if they for some reason I guess that's possible Ral they could table it on the sen Flo stranger things have happen another scenario I feel like we're really shooting for a Hail Mary at this point but but um but yes that's a possibility too this is the first time in my career that I've ever dealt with anything like this but six years of school board and 12 year 18 years yeah I've been in this position it's really strange bills but we see we see bills coming toward us a lot of times um from State legisl that actually affect the way we can govern our own citizens and be able to do things and be able to afford the things we provide our citizens so it they keep nibbling away at our authority to do anything eventually I guess the state will just run everything on their own and there won't be a need for a County Commission or whatever cuz they'll run it from the state so I mean have you seen the ones coming not a very good scenario so the the one coming out on permitting approvals I I don't know how we're going to comply with that one I was going to say I applaud you all for being actively involved this is now you see how the process works know that you know things might not get changed immediately the first year but they continuously tweak and go back so so we we'll probably be addressing this issue next year when we can you know possibly get a sponsor and and get to people that will want to have it change I think by then we'll the other local governments will see this at play and and this year they'll see come people coming out their tax rols or large chunks coming out their tax rolls and they're going to wake up and and they're going to see but there are other bills moving along in the process one I I am going to refer to um you know when you said how do we make this up we're going to you know it's it's forcing local governments to either change their millage or raise our taxes but this year the legislature has also got a bill that addresses how you all can raise your millage rate and taxes uh going forward if this bill passed which it looks like it will you'll have to have a super majority of your voting board um to approve those Mr chairman yes sir I like to say Ralph you uh Sean did a phenomenal job getting with us setting up the meetings that we had going through everything keeping us informed every step of the way you guys

done a phenomenal job Mike you you really made it a big step up this year to you know after you first time through the second time through this went really really well even joining with penelon Hillsboro so I think we're representing ourselves the best weekend um you know Jeff and David you guys have been great uh to work with stay on top of it with great ideas great suggestions even going up there to testify or we say discuss this I should say uh so I I think we've done as best we can and whatever it happens we just got to keep on battling so I also will say that we have a lot of Silent cheerleaders ERS um there's a lot of there's a lot of cities and counties that when you talk to them privately they they support the action we're taking the problem is that very few of them are willing to be the tip of the spear like us right so um this may just be one of those cases where we are the tip of the spear well you can only uh appreciate everything the board members do and and our staff with our helping our leadership to be Forefront of this position and actually it's all of us working toward helping our citizens so we don't want to raise our taxes over next few years to take care of people that get a free ride we want that's people that come in and do things actually do them based on their own Services they require so um none of us want to raise taxes on on our citizens whatsoever so but I look forward to working with each and every one of you in the future to work at things that makes this kind of thing not happen so I mean I think we got a lot going for Pasco County and it seems like it's way ahead of whatever comes in second so uh I appreciate each and everyone and all our staff so okay anything anything else to come before the board um I have one question for Ralph do that um Mobility fee Bill do we need to be paying attention to that or does that not really affect us it's it's still moving uh I'll be I'm going through bills right now to this week was the last week if bills were not moving this week or heard in their first committee good thing is they're not going to go anywhere so this was the week that I was really following it you know I've been caught up with live local but I'm in the back there going through all the bills to see where they're moving so I'll have an update by the end of the week on that one the second let me just finish so I have looked at the most current draft and it's not a model of clarity but I don't think there's anything that's like Earth shattering damaging to our Mobility system in the bill because we don't really have any big cities who are building it's primarily trying to deal with an issue between cities and counties and it it basically requires cities to collect the fees for for the cities and counties to look this this fees for the counties and we're supposed to address

extra jurisdictional impacts in our fees which I think we already do it's probably a bigger issue for our cities than it is for us right this is a fight between St Lucy County and Port St Lucy Palm Beach Gardens and there there's a similar one going on in Palm Beach County as well yeah so our cities may have an issue if the the way they're collecting their fees are not dealing with County impacts but we can our cities cooperate with us fairly well and we're doing amendments during our local agreements with them so I think we have a because we have a good relationship with our cities I think we could work it out with our cities and what about the homestead exemption where it goes up to 100,000 is that dead or is that still M cuz we'd have a double whammy with this adorm thing and then the extended home ciens there's only that one's not any where they there's some Homestead exemptions for additional for um allowing the surviving spouses of of disabled individuals to continue the homestead nothing major there's there's three that are actively moving I've already shared that um um with our our budget office so they're reviewing that now I I will say one bill that that gain traction yesterday because the governor had a press conference on it was a new bill that came to light um when Kathy Pearson was up in Tass she came back and told me about a bill that I started looking at and that was a public camping um uh you know or camping in public areas addressing the homelessness um that'll be interesting to see how that one plays out but I have a feeling that one was given blessing yesterday and that one will pass but it comes with money yes it comes with money and and the good thing is is it doesn't enforce it says if if municipalities and counties would like to uh house their homeless they can do so but with stipulations you have to have a a temporary permit from the state um they would have to have 247 security uh they would have to uh provide mental health care and they'd have to have restrooms on the but isn't this a way to help us get some funding for the project we're trying to do over on the west side I mean sounds like exactly what we're trying to do so I feel like we should be teed up ready to apply with that project possibility we can look and and I think we will look at that I don't know I don't think it's going to be a large amount of money but yeah there's there there will be money going toward it we've got to see how that works out as this bill uh develops is Kathy still here she is do um do you think that our project that um we're I think we're in negotiations I don't know that this Pro this state one would help us with funding for that Kathy Pearson assistant County Administrator public services this this bill came out of nowhere to be honest with you um I just happen to be up in Tallahassee and the lobbyist that represents the homeless coalitions I happen to run into him and that's how we

found out about this so um I didn't even know there was money attached to it so that's a good thing so we'll we'll see where this goes okay um okay I can send that out um someone sent it to me I looked for it online um but but William closure sent it to me about this bill um which reminds me yesterday I was at the uh uh Metropol Ministries had an event yesterday and so they've applied for New Market tax credits um and so it's freeing up quite a few million dollars extra that they didn't think they were going to have so so they're going to be able to redo their commercial kitchen and add like a dining room uh kind of feature and they're putting back in their culinary Training Academy so they're going to be teaching um people how to be um daycare provider licensed daycare providers culinary and then we partner with them at an skill so excit exciting stuff for Holiday okay I'll forward this to you guys all right anything else Mr come on that's it all right we journ good luck luck on your drive [Music] thank [Music] depend on you to keep them healthy excess fertilizer grass clipp flippings trash oils and pet waste wash into gutters and storm drains when it rains storm water carries these pollutants directly into our lakes and rivers creating an unhealthy environment for fish water foul and other Aquatic animals storm drains are meant for clean rainwater most other discharges are illegal if you suspect an illicit discharge please contact Pasco County Department of Public Works at 72783 43611 [Music]

uh we've been out to this address many times uh we've got a building violation a minimum housing case on it we're trying to determine whether to condemn the structure or not and we've brought the sheriff's department with us because they are it's a known drug house and there are squatters so we want to make sure that for our safety that everything's cleared out first before we make that determination heartbreaking I help the gentleman that got that years ago you need to have it cleaned up or removed one of the other I like see it g be better better for neighborhood that one and the house next door to it they are both garbage unbearable so anyway we have made our determination that this is going to be a condemnation case under the slum and blight I'll just check with the sheriff's office before we head out make sure that everything is good on their side and uh go back and start the case Okay so we're working on it for you I appreciate it okay absolutely whoever the whoever the initial investigator was I'm going to have them start the comination and do it start it today okay makes me feel really good because it'll make the whole neighborhood that that much of a better place for everybody that lives here this is exactly why I do what I do mhm absolutely abolutely located on the Gulf of Mexico in the Tampa Bay Area Pasco is part of a ncount region referred to as the Nature Coast of its 742 square miles the county has a total of 230,000 Acres of open space and more than 100 square miles of managed recreational facilities including public parks four artificial reefs more than than 25 golf courses and three state designed canoe Trails the possibilities to enjoy the outdoors and nature are unlimited the Pasco County Library System offers residents a place of Discovery in every Branch fresh approaches unique programs and services are creating new and diverse opportunities for personal and Community betterment Pasco County continues to place among the nation's leaders for growth the county has seen the rise of pln communities in Wesley Chapel and land Lakes our Open Spaces like farms and wetlands are preserved D even as we cultivate our neighborhoods and such Innovative retail destinations as the shops at Wiregrass with its expanding infrastructure and transportation system excellent schools diverse retail and entertainment venues Pasco County is a community of open spaces and vibrant [Music] places hi I'm Pasco Sheriff Chris Nako along with your entire Sheriff's Office We Serve and Protect all the citizens of our community including our youngest and most vulnerable our children there are almost 1,000 kids in the child welfare system Guardian at Lim is a voice to many of these children but we need more voices please go to hero toch child.org or call 727 834 3493 to learn how you can help I'm for the child are [Music]

you okay so the company we have here uh is called infrastructure Management Services IMS uh and what they do is they collect data on roads and other infrastructure in the public right of way uh the reason why they are here is that they are going to help us collect information that means the condition uh and the state of assets within the public rof way the way the van basically works is there's 11 lasers on the front of the van and those 11 points are creating a wireframe model of the road surface as we travel and the lasers are firing fast enough that they can measure the width and depth of all these cracks and we can identify all kinds of different road distresses yeah so th this is um is technology at its its best you know that the information that we need can be collected in a very short period of time probably no more than 3 weeks this is the mod way of collecting data on your assets so it's a first time for Pasco uh and it's going to help us really make sure the taxpayers dollars we are getting we are using wisely and cost [Music] effectively [Music] a [Music] what [Music]

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purely and simply it it's we're overcrowded the facility right we can't just go and put a No Vacancy sign up right we we have to house house these folks the expansion is going to allow us an opportunity to better classifier our inmate population um so with that it's going to improve the safety of our staff one two three time you want to do one more this is a great win for our Corrections Officers as we move into