10.10.2023 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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yeah [Music] he we're going to continue our um County Commission meeting for the afternoon public hearings but before we do I would like it would if you would stand let's Rise um we lost a commissioner Pat M just had passed away and I want to kind of I should have recognized this morning but let's have a moment of sounds for her if we could okay thank you so public hearings first item we have is p74 madam clerk we have proof we do yes sir stand by p74 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times on June 7th 2023 thank you Mr chairman um item p74 is an ordinance amending the test count comprehensive plan uh providing for a text Amendment and table revisions for The Villages of Pasad Hills vop comprehensive plan goal flu 6 allow increase of land area and Village cores of villages B and C increase maximum residential conversions and add conditions to transfer unused densities to Village cores and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repeal cability and effective date and uh this is a request for continuance to the November 14 2023 4 County Commissioners meetting me uh uh here in in D City at 130 may I have a motion to continue p74 so that's the one that that's Villages of Pasad Hill or whatever that's oh the one where I want to talk about it's shown as I know but I wanted to talk about theone which we actually have the site T yes that's later on the okay we'll wait so this on so I do have a motion move second call the rle district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano I item p75 do we have proof yes sir uh publish in the Tampa Bay Times on July 19th 2023 thank you Mr chairman item b75 is PDD 24007 and it is an ordinance amending the pesel county comprehensive plan providing for comprehensive plan amend amending future land use map map 2-15 and Sheet 12 from PD plan development to con conservation lands on approximately 1 15178 n Acres of real property located south of State Road 52 North of State Road 54 East of the Sun Coast Parkway and west of a CSX ra Corridor in land l and a map Amendment to the Future Landing map 2-9 amending sub area map 2- 943 project Arthur and a map Amendment to the conservation map 3-4 amending the north P the north Pasco to crossbar critical ecological Corridor and the north Pasco to Connerton eological Corridor and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repal cability and effective date this comes to you with recommendation for recommendation adoption okay commissioner star um hey

Terry um and I was texting back back and forth with some of the folks from melene and Keith Wy who is out at a Parks conference um but I just want to be sure that anything that we're doing in here doesn't preclude us from putting any trails along the edges or through it um because that's important to connect the parks area the park in Angeline to the area to the South to get some movement East West and we never have done our um our Show and Tell of our trip to um Bentonville but very you know we want to have some trails along the edges of these so I just want to make sure this doesn't conclude it not to my acknowledge that this wouldn't uh precluded this is just a comprehensive plan amendment to establish the Eco corridors my understanding is that there's capability to bring some of that passive Recreation to access portions of those Eco cors support I just don't want to shoot ourselves in the very good any other questions okay that Al Terry we have a presentation if the board wants it okay Bo want a presentation okay yes sure it's planers day we got a present right yes good afternoon Brian Yonker um long range planning the project is uh PDD 24007 CPA 2107 project Arthur Eco Corridor boundary modific ation and future land use change the orderer was into record the subject project is located in the South Market and North Market area The Proposal is a comprehensive plan and the future land change is going to go from plan development to conservation land the purpose is to amend the Fisher land use from from from PD plan development to con conservation land on approximately 1, 51789 acres and a boundary update to implement PRN 20 007 agreement for sale and purchas project Arthur ecological cordor as approved on November 19 2019 the location of the project is south of State roow 52 North State row 54 East east of Sun Coast Parkway and west of a CSX rail Corridor in Lano lakes here is the uh site location and our aial view in here we got a context map basically some of the um stuff that we got around the ecological Corridor here is the ex existing Fisher land use as it is right now is still under plan development here is the proposed Fisher land use proposing it to amend it to con conservation land current zoning is MP the proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies got policy con 1.2.2 H policy con 1.2.1 policy con 1.1.3 and policy con 1.2.5 and the recommendation is find the proposed amendment consistent with a comprehensive plan and adopt by a roll call

vote thank you any more questions for staff looks like great great place to conserve uh anyone from the public like to speak to this item there was no one signed up I do have one person Nancy come on forward name address for the record please Nancy Haywood 3411 place I not been sworn Amendment okay um what a wonderful thing uh I applaud you all for this and the staff for working so hard and of course the Elam um I'd love to see that in district one thank you okay anyone from the public like to speak we close public comment here is anybody on WebEx there is no one okay we have another person come on just your name and address for the record Renee lansen um we just your address uh we don't have where we don't have an address we just have a description okay um it's right by the CX how by changing it to conservation how is it going to affect the private land owners like what will happen to the property that we own now that it's a conservation you shouldn't own this property yeah it's already so I will then not I I'm a little concerned because they sent us a note to show up for this because it contain to the plot of land that we had owned maybe it abuts it what maybe it's next to it maybe could be okay just kind of let you know if we're protecting the land all right thank you okay we have a motion move approval second Roll Call district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District 5 chairman Mariana I motion passes item p76 p76 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on August 27th 2023 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings okay thank you item p76 is PDD 24008 it's an ordinance amending the Peso County comprehensive plan providing for a comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map m 15 and uh sheet 12 from I industrial life to Comm commercial on approximately 3.69 Acres of real property located at the intersection north of Sunlake Boulevard extension and state 52 this comes to you with a recommendation to adopt the small scale comprehensive plan Amendment okay does staff anyone from commission want a presentation okay question couple questions commission wman thank you chair Mr P BR through the background I just want to confirm this is it's a little bit small for Li loc but we we have the de restrictions on there and this property based on the conversation we had earlier today on design prop drop car washes facilities that that the new rules may may comply in this in this case uh in terms of the frontage it would go

to uh we would be adding land to the Comm commercial area um but we would have to develop the Land Development code amendments and the board would have to approve them and pass them by ordinance and then those would be applicable to any future development that would occur uh on this site um I have a question Mr star we just um outlined the types of layout that we'd like to see can that affect this at all that's the question he just answered for commissioner waitman I was reading here um you need to adopt you need to adopt the Land Development code amendments that staff will be proposing if they're adopted before this property comes in for development it would apply to them otherwise it would not so we can't condition this is comprehensive plan this is not resoning you have to educate us second okay that's why we're not land use attorneys and making the big bu any other questions for staff anyone from the public like to speak to item p76 there was no one signed up no one signed up no one on WebEx correct all right back to the board we'll close public comment to the board move to approve second roll call vote District One commissioner Oakley hi District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano I motion passes item p77 p77 is advertised in Tampa Bay Times on March 22nd and June 21st 2023 Jerry item p77 is PDD 2415 it is an ordinance by the pesel County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development code section 604 Northeast Pasco rural protection overlay District figure 604-108 D2 Northeast Pascal rural Scenic roadways figure 64-4 limits to topographic alterations and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repeaters of ability inclusion into Land Development code and in effective date this is the uh second reading of the or the second hearing of the Land Development code Amendment uh and it comes to you with recommendation for adoption Terry the item that's on the screen right now says p76 we can we get that updated there you go there go okay any questions for staff no okay I see the applicant behind you I like to address Mr chairman Commissioners Clark hobby hobby and hobby PA 109 North bre Street Tampa Florida uh I'll keep this very brief remember that last month you all voted to approve the mpud for Hilltop Vistas and you approve the companion comprehensive plan amendment in that plan Amendment you voted to change the same maps that this agenda item is changing so the comp plan has already been amended this is just the second hearing on the Land Development code to change the maps that are in the

Land Development code to make them consistent with it and the only thing we were doing was taking the hilltop vista's property out of it that was thoroughly discussed last meeting so anyway I know we I think about one or two people speaking I'll be happy to reserve the balance of my time can I can I ask a question quickly M thank you what were the changes in the topographic alterate it says you want to get out of the topographic no no it's it's the map there's three or four maps that have to change when you come out of Northeast Pasco that's one of them but remember the mpud we added a condition in it that has the same same language from the comp plan that would have regulated the topograph that we talk thank you yeah okay all right and this is a public hearing item is anyone here to speak to item p77 no one has signed up but like you have some okay Nancy Haywood 34110 and Ice Place do I need to be sworn no no no okay so um I know this ad application was advertised correctly but the name of the development was not on the agenda so because of this there were a few people that did not attend this board meeting I would like to ask that the board make a requirement that the name of the project is included in the agendas that go before the board please um also I know I mentioned topography last time and that's one of the things that's being taken out since I live close to St Jed Road I went by suit view this morning and it appears that they are moving a awful lot of dirt and that it's not much of a hill anymore and there goes another Hill in Dade City and so from what I'm understanding that dirt is actually being moved to marada and I was wondering about Dade City in Pasco County getting dirt but that's that's for another matter where the taxes form there and anything else with the Dade City Pasco County inter connection but I I just want to be very sure that this very unhappy Hill is not going to have the same thing happen thank you thank you anyone else here to speak to item p77 close public comment here anybody on WebEx there's no one on WebEx okay to the board move of approval and and just to address that that's what we just talked about that they don't they they won't be moving Happy Hill to Mor second okay call the r district one commissioner Oakley hi District Two commissioner waitman District three commissioner starky District Four commissioner Bradford District 5 chairman Mariano I motion passes item p78 we approve p78 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times on July 19th 2023 item p78 is PDD 2425 it is an ordinance amending the pasel county comprehensive plan providing for a text Amendment to the Future land use element appendix a map Amendment to the Future land use map 2-9

amending sub area map 2922 Gateway Hub sub area and sub area map 2- 922a Gateway Hub subcategories and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repealer severability and an effective date and this comes to you with a recommendation to adopt the ordinance if there's a presentation we can provide one does Bo wish for a presentation I don't I don't think so I don't need one okay all right let's get the presentation yeah is there an applicate okay all right it's a public hearing is anyone here to speak to item p78 no one has signed up and no one's on WebEx okay we'll close public comment to the board move approval second roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner wait District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano hi motion passes now we go to our public hearings where those who are speaking will be sworn would you like me to read the procedures Mr chairman yes Mr County chair there are two resoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to to any condition of the rezoning May at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are Quasi judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's Land Development code Madam clerk would you like to swear them in uh yes sir so anyone that who uh plans to speak to the remainder of the agenda please rise and raise your right hand do you swear airm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God thank you okay item p7 9 yes sir p79 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times on August 23rd 2023 okay

Denise good afternoon Mr chairman Commissioners Denise Hernandez planning and development p79 is PDD 24769 7 a zoning amendment in the name of Ruben a and Martha J Sanchez that request is to continue the item for the January 9th 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in dat City okay motion to continue move to continue second Roll Call district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano hi motion passes item p80 item p80 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times on August 23rd 2023 p80 is PDD 24 7679 a zoning amendment in the name of shers 52cc Master Plan unit development Mary Burke and Thomas shider uh the request is to continue the item to the October 10th 2020 October 24th 2023 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Newport Richie to no move to continue second district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner Starkey I District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano I motion passes p81 p81 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times on August 9th 2023 p81 is pd24 7668 it's a zoning amendment in the name of Abby Crossings connected City MPD master plan unit development Jeffrey hust and Margaret hust for resoning from AC agricultural District to an mpud master plan unit development District to allow the development of 1,000 multif family units and 800,000 ft of light industrial 400,000 ft of office and 400,000 square feet of commercial retail on approximately 24524 Acres um comes here with a recommendation of approval with conditions as including your agenda packet from the Planning Commission and the Planning and Development Department there are expar Communications on this item uh from commissioner waitman commissioner Oakley and commissioner Mariano and I do want to mention that there is your standard condition regarding the live local act which is your condition number 60 on this mpud okay are there any is anyone in the oppos in opposition to this item leave it on consent commission Wen thank you this but like I like clarification the definition of multif family UNS not comforable with the definition of m years Mr H not be able to come up and clarify what this me would you like a full presentation and we can bring it back all right so let's let's we'll just let's take this off consent we'll bring it back and we'll address it after okay all right so P 81 is off consent it's notal all right p82 uh advertising the Tampa Bay Times on August 2nd

2023 p82 is PDD 24 7723 a zoning Amendment the name of Gary kovak and Janet B kovak for change in zoning from R1 rural density residential district to a agricultural residential district comes here with a recommendation of approval from the Pasadena Hills planning and policy committee and the Planning and Development Department is anyone here to speak in opposition to p82 we'll leave it on consent p83 do you want a roll call Vote or no it's onent perfect p83 advertis and Tampa Bay Times on August 23rd 2023 p83 is PDD 24 7736 zoning amendment in the names name of Martha dster for a change in zoning from an AR agricultural residential district to an r18 single family mobile home district with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restrict deed restriction which Li um regulates the front setback and the the rear the side and rear setbacks uh comes you with a recommendation of approval from the planning and development department and the Planning Commission okay is anyone here in opposition to speak to item p83 anyone in WebEx there's no one signed up all right that'll be we'll leave it on consent agenda that's a consent agenda uh you have a motion to approve the consent agenda move approval of the consent agenda second district one commissioner Oakley hi District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano I so we're going to go back to item p8 one we'll do a presentation from Staff first and we'll in the outc sure that will be presented by Orlando Boris thank you thank you good afternoon this is Orlando waras with we planning I will be showing today I mean presenting B24 7668 Abby Crossing CCM PUD this is a zoning Amendment from C2 ER and AC to an mpud allowing ,00 sorry 1,000 multi family units 800,000 ft of flight industrial 800,000 ft of office and 800,000 Square ft of commercial SL retail and it's located right now south of country 52 on the intersection of McKenry Road as you can see this is going to be the side location for this property this is going to be the location map showing exactly where it's located south of count Road 52 this is going to be the context map as you can see the green zone inds are going to be mpud C2 C3 and also light inducer going to the north and this is going to be the fusion langes as you can see um it's going to be uh EC which stands for employment center uh you also have Ro and you're also going to see um rest threee and mix uses going to the north the applicant is requesting the following variation from the code the first one is going to be from the LC 520 from the LDC section 522.com being requested uh because it's going to be uh above the 85 percen provided by

the it uh which is going to be for transportation engineering and all that type of stuff for 5 22.9 neighborhood parks um the applicant is requesting right now to reduce the um the minimum required for parkings it's going to be now a minimum of 10% for sorry for for parks and Park and Recreation acknowledge the space constraints on this subject property and therefore agrees on providing greater flexibility in the neighborhood park design for multi family apartment this is going to be excluding town homes and also duplexes the applicant will still have to provide at least 10% of the Upland acreage for parks and the last variation from the code is going to be from 80 5.6 restrictions on post development wetlands and Upland buffers within residential lots and non-residential Parcels uh this is going to be basically uh to let the applicant or the owner to keep and maintain the uh the open areas since there's not going to be an H or CDD as you can see this is going to be the master plan and this comes with the recommendation of approval with conditions from PDD and the Planning Commission so to be clear so there's no ho no HOA no CDD um onsite parking what what's the number going to from 2.25 it's going to be now 1.9 this is going to also let the applicant have more space to have open spaces and it's also going to promote um alternative transportation methods which is one of the intent of this overl in Connected city um I have questions M stet um I am very curious about the park space so we are basically giving the flexibility to the applicant to comply and meet the the minimum requirements in Connected City to provide parets um basically they can have more flexibility in terms of the design um between the the uh the buildings are we going to consider an indoor billiard room apart sorry what well I think in some multif family places they we take some of the indoor space and consider it a place where people gather that that could be used towards park space right so if we're done with staff I'll bring the applicant up yeah right yeah I know so any more any staff questions I just want to make sure there know hang oning our I know hang on we'll hear from Clark we're fine all right and commissioner waitman commissioner Bradford you want to hear from staff or are we ready to go for the applicant oh yeah commissioner W ready H okay Mr H thank you Mr chairman I can answer some of these questions uh first of all with regard to the parks we're not seeking that kind of relief uh commissioner starky I know that you and I have talked privately about I think your position is we need to create more active Park areas especially within multif family complexes and that's something right now I don't think the code really allows so that's not relief that we're seeking all we're trying to say and staff and the board have

supported several times on multif family apartment projects that we should be focusing on the acreage of the overall multif family partial instead of the unit count and so that's you all have approved the same alt standard many many times over the last few years I would say also outside of the multi family area that we're talking about here we are planning on having uh I think we discussed with you a a large uh walking trail around the lake amenity that's on the site and you know that would be an addition to this I thought we had a meeting but when they did have me listed as ex parte I thought well maybe I we we sent one sometimes I don't know where it went we will try by we did this is the one that uh Ken Moren was here with Brian Sykes that uh we spoke about and then potentially even doing condominiums on the site but I think commissioner waitman had another issue that I wanted to address for the board's benefit while the staff report references a th000 multif family units that is not what's going to be built on this site and just I think that's important on this site that the board know how this works the existing future land use on this site is employment center and it only allows essentially multif family meaning apartments or Condominiums that's all employment center has ever allowed for the residential Portion by opting into connected City we're following what connected City calls multif family which includes tow houses and duplexes and so what our client we're actually under contract right now not with an apartment Builder but with a townhouse developer so there'll be platted town town houses on there for sure that's what we're under contract to do on the southern end of the site but the I don't want to miss the the force for the trees on this thing because this is a major employment uh development that the county has wanted and staff has been encouraging for you know a couple of years with us now and even though staff really wanted this to happen quickly it's taken us 16 months to get to the board and it's a 800,000 squ ft light Industrial Development on the Frontage all of the multif family is all in the rear uh way off of the road I think it's maybe 3/4 of a mile off the road we're contributing with Pasco Town Center to the construction of the first four lanes of mckendry for about a third of a mile and then we have other obligations to widen it later in the development so there's a lot to like here we're building two other Vision roads and a lot of good things but I think the commissioner waitman comment was he was concerned when you first read the staff report that it says a th000 multif family units and he didn't want us to have a th000 Apartments I can assure you we will not have a th000 Apartments well that's why I want to make sure there was park space for all those Park completely understand it's a nomenclature issue in in Connected City so something I I want to be careful careful of is as we keep restricting everybody from no Workforce housing I think we need to distinguish from certain aspects of the live local

Act or whatever it's called versus um other types of Workforce housing because if we're not careful the um the people who need to have these you know many of the people that will have these jobs won't be able to live there because we keep restricting U uh affordable housing so I think we we need to be careful when we restrict it I'm just wondering if we can restrict that any further we don't if if I might cuz I I think this is a critical distinction on a mixed use project the reason why it's critical that you have it here is we're doing this as a mixed use project as an employment center would have been built uh from the 20067 comprehensive plan meaning that we've got a substantial employment area some retail office that goes along with that and then the high density housing but you need that live local condition because without it some bad actor might come in and try to convert the employment that we want to even more residential and that we don't want well and I didn't mean it on this project I mean General but you don't generally what you generally the that condition is only is only put on commercial or industrial pro project uh resoning so as not to have them convert to multif family so it it doesn't restrict anybody's ability to do affordable housing in this County it just you get what you you get if you bargain with me to have a mixed use project I better deliver a mixed use project just departments anyway I hope that answered commissioner wait's concerns thank you all right there a public hearing is there anyone to speak to this item there's no one signed up anyone we no sir to the board move approval second Roll Call district one commissioner Oakley hi District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District 5 chairman Mariano I item p84 p84 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times on August 23rd 2023 Denise Hernandez Planning and Development item p84 is PDD 24 cu2 um as my team brings up the PowerPoint this is a conditional use request for a 155 foot above ground level monopole wireless communication facility which will consist of a 150 ft Wireless communication facility with a 5ft lightning rod in an AR agricultural residential district the applicant is Pasco Landing Cattle Company LLC Skyway Towers LLC Verizon Wireless as stated is a conditional use for 155t above ground level monopole wireless communication facility in an ar1 district with a future land use classification of res one uh the proposal is 150t wireless communication facility with 5ft lightning rod um which is will be suitable for the collocation of three additional carriers so you'll have four carriers the anchor tenant and three additional carriers um it's proposed to be located along the southwestern area of the property within a 6400t fence compound area which is part of an overall 10,000 ft least area

um the property is located on the north side of Green Willow Run approximately 2,000 ft east of qu Hollow Boulevard it's in central Pasco County the subject zoning is AR the subject property zoning is ar1 agricultural residential district that is surrounded by the North to the north south the East um by ar1 and a portion of the West has a agricultural residential districts surrounding land use Is Res one to the south east and west and con conservation to the north access to the overall site is from Green Willow Run uh access to the wireless communication facility compound area is through a 30ft wide access and utility easement which is located off of green Willow Run This Is providing the context of the area to the north you have Tampa Bay water and Southwest fla Water Management District to own Parcels um just please note that the subject property is approximately 160 Acres so um to the north of the subject property not of the actual site um to the South you have the um agricultural residential rural area areas of Tampa Highlands to the east you have um estate residential Westwood estat subdivision and to the West you have qu Quail Run estates this is the site plan showing um the M proposed monopole um with the the anchor tenant at the top of the monopole showing the lightning rod which is 5 ft and then showing um three additional carriers which are required um actually they're going one additional carrier above what's required under the Land Development code for collocation uh the application comes to you with a recommendation of approval with condition you just you do have some objections um which are included in your in your packet um the first objection the property owner is located approximately 3500 ft Northwest of the location of the wireless communication facility um your objector for um your second objector is located approximately 12 12200 ft southeast of the wireless communication facility location and the third objector is is located over 3500 ft Southwest of the wireless communication facility location I'm here for any questions and the applicant is here as well any questions for the app for Denise no Denise as far as when you just mentioned the locations of it as far as the site location it's a pretty big parcel it's a really large parcel it's located in the southwestern most I kind of have that yellow Little Dot uh where it's kind of located um it's approximately 100 ft from the south um boundary of the parcel that's where the compound area will be located so right here so the the obors where they coming from Northwest and Southwest um so I think some of them are here so one one of the obors is up in this area over here another objector is sorry off of this the two others are off the map they're not even in this context map okay but you do have some folks here who may not have written a letter of

opposition of objection okay that would like to to speak on the matter all right is there an applicant here the applicant is here yes the app like to speak thank you hi good afternoon James Johnston with shuton Bowen 300 South Orange Avenue in Orlando on behalf of the applicant uh we appreciate um and you have been sworn I have been sworn than um we appreciate M Hernandez uh working with her and her thorough staff report um I have with me Bill Compton who's with Verizon RF and also Harold Timmons who's with te who did the site acquisition we're here to answer questions we appreciate staff's support we're agreeable to the conditions of approval um and the I'd like to point out that the code requires an outside inde dependent consultant uh to review this for the county who also found that it was needed and recommended approval as well as the Planning Commission recommended approval so we are here to answer questions but we'd ask for your support on approving this conditional use permit and just ask for some time uh to come back um if there are comments from the public so I'll ask you question but as far as the site location um You' got in the south west part of your property is that the best location for it with what's around it well I mean again when you're you're doing a cell tower site it's you know where um it works from a landowner perspective you got you have to find a willing land owner plus um where they want it on the property this property also has significant wetlands and flood plane issues so it's located in an area that is um on Uplands uh it is in that South West corner but it is in an area of Uplands and there is a significant tree trees around it so it is set back 100 ft and there uh will be uh existing trees that will remain as buffer both on that south and west side as well as on the balance of the property okay any questions okay thank you sir thank you all so this is a public hearing anyone here to speak to this item anybody signed up there is no one signed up no one signed up but if the people want to speak please come forward when you come to the podium remember name and address and let us know if you've been sworn thank you call forani Sweet 102 27251 Wesley Chapel Boulevard 33544 I have been sworn uh I moved from the urban sprawl of Hill billsboro County carolwood to rural Pasco County place that I thought would be ideal for my children and my family so that we could I'm speaking obviously in opposition to this 150 f pole in our community because the applicant it has saddle wood written all over it this is for future homes that have yet to be built and Saddlewood if Saddlewood wants better self phone reception because ours is just fine stick it in the middle of Saddlewood not in the middle of Quail Hollow and by the way I live in qu Hollow Estates I have three lots one of it is contiguous to the 200 acre parcel

that this pole has been Stu on and we cherish what qu Hollow is it's a sanctuary from development from urban sprawl we like the UNS scenery we like looking at the Red shouldered Hawks and the deer my children enjoy riding their horses on the trails of the wealth we bought a home in the middle of a swamp on a dead end Road for a reason so we could escape the Urban Spa so now we have an outer State owner applying to an out ofate Corporation so Verizon get a leg up on AT&T and stick this as a constant reminder to us that the corporations and the outstate owners and the builders and the developers want to Sul what I have been living there for 31 years as a voter and as a taxpayer so I deeply object we don't even have a homeowners association there's nobody there to tell us the size and the color of our mailbox we've already suffered enough because of sidewood suing Tampa Bay Water they shifted the water drainage from away from Saddlewood directly across all three of my properties I don't want to be a victim of overdevelopment anymore we are sick and tired the homeowners of well Hollow we don't want a car wash on every corner we don't want cookie cutter homes on zero lot lines we want to be left alone so I urge you to vote against this proposal thank you good afternoon my name is Stephanie lefu and I am a um homeowner we've bought our land back in 9 six I have not been sworn in okay so behind you have you been sworn in as well if you have not been sworn in please raise your right hand if anybody else is going to speak okay uh do you swear affirm the testimony you're about to give is the TR so help you God yes okay okay so if if you would you name an address and then the one thanks my name is Stephanie lefu and our address is 26929 Coral Vine Lane um where this proposed Tower is supposed to be is my walking path we built in we bought 96 built in ' 08 we've raised our family there continue to enjoy there this would be something that will definitely lower our land values our property values there's health concerns I am a realtor I know that it would it's unsightly um the deer are running out of places to Ram it would definitely be a something to lessen our values um it would make sense to have this more in a commercial area The Grove is not very far from our community it could be better along the interstate area toward the Grove where people are not enjoying life in the quiet where we live now all right so much development of the homes are going on in the area and I to a certain degree welcome it because it's my line of work however this antenna will definitely lower our values and is a health concern and we are not for it um it's not good for wildlife and the

people that live in our community so I vote no I would hope that you will be thinking about what the people hear where we live and what our opinion is we say no thank you what was your address again yeah 26929 Coral Vine Lane thank you I'm one road away from it across the street thank you thank you so much hello my name is Cynthia elier I live at 8810 Quil Run Drive have you been with some of you before have you been swarm man yes I have thank you um I would like to point out that the individuals that own that piece that's outlined in red also own an almost identical piece to the right or west of excuse me east of that so they have a total of over 300 acres for them to decide to put it in in the south west corner where it impacts so many people I don't understand I do ride in that area I know there's a lot of area that is Wetlands but that is not the only spot there that can be built upon um I moved out here well on Quail Hollow in the Quail Hollow area over 30 years ago this would be just such an impact on on our property property it um I I noticed that it was called Saddlewood uh proposal you know if if they want it please put it over closer to Saddlewood there's 300 acres there I know I'm not allowed to bring up health concerns I know I'm not allowed to bring up losing all of my honeybees to this you can bring up anything you want to bring up I'm sorry I can hear you you can bring up anything you want to bring up well it'll be shot down so I'll keep my 3 minutes going um I have Conta conted and I I might be in error but I believe the Verizon gentleman said that he had contacted any sort of historic impact uh from a seminal Indian aspect um I've been in contact with the what is it title tribal historic preservation office with seal Indians there's a lot of artifacts in that area a great many artifacts they are in the process of checking it out or will be checking it out out they have not done so yet I believe at the last meeting we were at I believe the gentleman said that they had already gone through those steps as far as uh Mr Mueller is concerned he has not heard from them so I think that from a historic standpoint and considering Pasco County does have what's it called historic preservation ordinance I think we really should value a little bit of what potentially is on that land like I said I've been out there for over 30 years and I know that there is a great many artifacts I know that someone old tribe is interested in checking on it and I know I really don't want to see that on my Horizon as soon as I get up every morning thank you for your time please vote no on this thank you I have this in okay then name and address oh yes my name is Marl forani um

I'm at 881 Quil room Drive um I had actually written a letter I wasn't listed I guess um to uh commissioner waitman um so I'll just kind of reiterate some of my concerns um the yellow dot is looks quite a bit farther north it's only um the fence is 50t off of pin Willow and the tower itself is 100t there are so many residents around there that don't have a choice if they wanted to sell they're going to lose value on those homes because of people moving in will either ask for a lower price because of this visual eyesore um but they get that choice they get to say well it's worth the money I I'll take that piece of property the people that are there now won't get that choice it's just being we're just being told essentially that it's necessary um and that it's going to go in because the property um has owners that are out of state and it doesn't affect them at all um and then Verizon um there were several people that said that we have coverage need and then they put up in the presentation um really great looking Maps however there are no streets shown on those Maps it's just a nice green you know kind of uh X that shows this increased coverage in that area so when I went and fit the scale to it and everything that was part of what I showed to commissioner waitman um there's barely anything additional to that area that gets additional coverage there's already um a tower that we get coverage from just off of before and then Saddlewood is mostly covered by it's just west of I75 there's a tower there as well the only Tower the only coverage benefit is um not even the majority of let's see it was wood Bea Woodleaf Woodleaf Boulevard it doesn't extend the entirety of wood leaf so if it benefits Westwood I could understand that it doesn't get all of Westwood if it went more Northeast in that property where some of these people wouldn't have to see it every day and lose value on their homes and on their quality of life because we all moved out there because there's this conservation land to the north we were hoping that that would mean it wasn't going to be developed further there's the Cypress Creek preserve extends down to the West as well we were safe on that side there's a lot of wetlands to the east we thought we would be safe on that side we made those choices for how we want to live our lives and then shann andoa which is a majority of Saddlewood isn't covered at all it's covered by the one that's on sedway Boulevard to the west of I75 so I don't think that the benefit outweighs the cost for those of us that are already there that have been there for so long um and I think it's strange that on the the map it didn't show any of the streets that would benefit it when you look at it's like wow it's going to be so much more green that makes sense and then you see the border and it barely covers two streets because those are the only two streets that could stand a benefit I just don't think that this is a good fit and just for a

quantity of towers to go into Florida rather than quality I don't think is Verizon standard either there's 300 acres perhaps you could go more Northeast and that's it I appreciate your time thank you hello my name is Kathy Vance and I live at 26435 Green will1 my property you've been swor correct pardon have been sworn correct you have been sworn yes thank you um my property borders the west side we have 12 1/2 acres there the way the um Tower is going to be it's 50 ft from my property line I also own a acre in front of that which is on green Willow and so it'll be 100 ft from there I'm going to have to look at this thing every day um I know that we can't object on so many things I um I wrote to commissioner waitman uh when we first found out about it and um the letter I received back from his associate um assistant said that well because of FCC rules we couldn't object because of um health reasons or a few other things um and I'm not a objecting to that I know chances are it's going to be improved however he has over 300 acres I have lived there since 1985 and I know a lot of the area there floods in fact where they're talking about putting it is right in front of excuse me a Cypress Head so the other side that isn't shown on the map that he owns would be a much better fit for there is nobody there there there's nobody going to have to be looking at it and so I would hope that you would take everything we've all said into consideration and vote know on this thank you thank you hi I'm Tim dunan I live at 26422 Green Willow Run which is right across the street from The Proposal I don't think you been sworn yes ma'am you've been sworn okay thank you I don't really think any of us are really against the tower going up it's just where it's being placed with 300 acres you think they could move it somewhere that would please everyone everyone would be happy in the neighborhood he lives in St Louis and I think it's all about the money where the proposed s is now it' be easy access for them to get in and out whereas they don't want to build it on a different location where it won't bother anybody cuz it's going to take a lot more money to get a road and get everything going there but I still don't really know who it's going to benefit when I have Frontier 5G works just fine have no problem with cell service internet service so I don't know who they're building it for there's no one there and why would it matter if it's placed on the opposite side of the proposed site away from the neighborhoods away from my friends and neighbors I came here 21 years ago to build equity in my house and I've learned that this takes like 20% Equity away when you go to sell it in my comments if I were going to sell my house I don't think I'd have that as a feature th000 ft across the streets a cell tower I don't think that would help

me but still really don't know uh who this is going to benefit but if I had 300 acres and didn't even live around here I think I'd want everyone to be happy and not have an eyore built in the middle of a a neighborhood it's uh so pristine and nice to have some ice s sticking out there uh just wouldn't be attractive and with that much land you think that uh they could sure re reposition it somewhere else and not to mention all the other different things with the health conditions and just seeing lights and stuff at night and we moved out there to be in a quiet neighborhood and not have lights and towers and stuff going over us and I suppose they have three other positions that three other companies can come in and put add to it while they're just saying the one for Verizon well if other companies come in there and want to build well they're just going to have to add on to the tower right they're going to make it even bigger and more of an iore than it would be initially so I sure hope you guys can understand if you lived in the community you wouldn't want it there either please uh thank you for listening and I hope you can get it moved to somewhere else or say no thank you thank you and know to speak to item p84 any want WebEx no sir we going to close public comment um back to staff first Denise ear we I asked earlier about the location site um and I'm just looking like why would it be OT away from a home when you when you could go to the northern part and the east e part and especially nobody knows acreage beside that any reason we didn't look at that or did we no we did not look at that that was the location that the applicant proposed uh where the compound area is located um the applicant did State and if you do the Wetland layer you will see and we do also have comments from natural resources that the property does have wetlands and when it comes in if it if it moves from this phase when it comes in for the preliminary site plan they're going to want to look at it they want to have a full Wetland delineation as well of the site Mike could someone pull up on U map on pages and we'll kind of look at the toppo and look at the uh Wetlands out there Denise what's a normal setback from a 55t pole um the regular the setback according to Land Development code one2 basically states that the setbacks are based on the zoning District within which they're located so um and you're you're looking at a tier three which is a conditional use um so the setbacks for ar1 district are and they're measured from the the fence compound area 50 from the front uh 25 from each side and 50 from the rear and then of course uh whatever requirements would be from any Wetland line are we prop are we prohibited by federal government regulations on expanding that number we we do not you're you're B we

you can add any condition that you would like to add regarding the setbacks if you want greater setbacks those but I will say that their site plan does show greater setbacks than a 25t side setback so I don't know go by the one lady so she's 50 ft away but I think it's something we need to take take a look at um where did they say they were 50t from a home one of the one of the residents uh I I think I think the the person said 50 ft possibly from their property line I don't think they said from a home okay so the wetlands are pretty much those those three red dots that are there and the and the yellow um those are category one the yellow and then the the uh the red is Category 3 according this is just giving us a guide this does this is not the actual Wetland delineation okay so it could go to that northern part into the East there's no Wetland there okay any of the questions for staff let's bring the applicant up we've heard the concerns everyone says they give reception service so why would you pick that location and could you could you move it would you move it um again you know I represent Verizon and and this is a landowner question where we've been guided to by the land owner to make it work um we did look at other sites around and you typically what happens when you're looking for uh a new tower site which by the way is always the second option you look to collocate if you can but if you um have to do a new tower to to provide the coverage um you get a search ring and then you send out notices to potential properties in the search ring and so we did look at other properties as well this was I think the only um only uh response where we could go there's no Tower closer than 1.25 miles away um and so then within the land owner then you know you also have factors like where the landowner would like to see it on the property as well as factors like the wetlands flood plane trying to locate it where we don't have to have you know a driveway going all the way back to get to it um so this is the the lease area where Verizon has the lease to go and to move it would essentially require excuse me uh starting over excuse me is the land owner with you today I'm sorry is the landowner with you today I do not thinker no okay all right I don't know about the board but I would I would rather have them take a look at a different site on this property um I don't mind continueing with it and bringing it back if they can go do the research do you show your overlay of coverage yes we do have that that was part of our application I do have a Verizon RF uh person here I mean I mean one thing I could throw out uh two because we obviously heard the concerns I mean we could go instead of a monopole a monopine to try to take care of uh some of the visual concerns for the tower as an alternative so i' I've been dropping a pin on the street it looks like it's a heavily wooded lot are

actually get it closer to other residents and so it's kind of one of those things where you know it is going to be 150 ft tall uh but you know when you're down on the ground it's not the same perspective I think as what you think and again I I do think we would be willing to go monopine design you know to fit in with the surrounding you know what's in that surrounding area to try to make it blend in better okay so let's get back to the coverage issue thank and You' see it from far away but not William Compton William Compton from Horizon Wireless address is 7705 East Telecom Parkway Tampa and I have been sworn in thank you thank you that's to so I'm looking before you want change that slide I'm going to answer you the question after the very bottom of that slide that was just up there talked about if this is not not allowed to happen it won't allow us to resolve capacity issues in the area so I'm going to have you address that after we look at the coverage get to the cover the actual covered slide so our our our wonderful Nemesis coid um really expanded upon a problem that Verizon Wireless was having before that which is a lot of our traffic is moving into the more res residential areas a lot of people more people are working from home they're using our service for their internet service um they're taking calls uh work calls from home doing video calls from home that kind of stuff so a lot more of our traffic has moved into the residential areas that's why you're seeing a lot more sites um new towers being proposed in those residential areas um and the reason for that is the capacity like I said before so um a lot of people are saying in the crowd that are saying that there's existing coverage and that is true the problem is um as Mr uh James there has said before there's there's coverage and there's capacity and the reason why we're here today is not for coverage we we know that there's coverage out there we drive our our Network all the time uh but we also have to look into the future and we have to look at what the capacity situation is on the existing sites that cover those areas and the exponential growth that we're seeing in those residential areas is what's driving us to build sites like this um Verizon doesn't just build build sites because they want to um there's a very um elaborate process inside Verizon to to allocate the funds to do sites like this um this is over a half million to 3/4 million dollar investment from Verizon Wireless in infrastructure to build these sites so it's not something we do just because we want to trust me I would love if we could do all the paperwork I have to do to justify these things that's my job as a traffic engineer as well so we're out here to try and get ahead of the the problem I'm I'm glad the customers right now for Verizon are saying they don't have any coverage and and capacity issues that they're see seeing right now we're here

to be ahead of that we don't want them to have those coverage and capacity issues in the future so um speaking to the maps um the map up on the screen right now I believe that's the yeah that's the existing coverage so you can see the green areas or what we're predicting is the signal level is provides what we call um what we call it um reliable coverage sorry have a mental block there um so those are reliable area so the the signal level there would get you in inside a building because we know most most of our coverage most of our capacity comes from in building not many people are working outside they're not sitting at their computer out on out in the yard they're actually inside the house so we're having to overcome the the sheet metal roofs the uh low E glass that they're putting in that new houses that kind of stuff that's makes it much harder for us to penetrate into the buildings with our RF signals so again that this is the existing coverage and then with the new site what that does is it not only provides new coverage but any of the area that it covers that was covered previously by the existing sites it offloads that traffic so the people that are over on I75 that are right underneath that site on SE I75 they're going to get uh improved service there because now that site's not having to cover the customers all the way out into the Quail Hollow and the west side of Saddlewood Community that's the reason why we build these sites there's a there's a lot of usage along that road that's going up yes and there's a lot of information that that goes into those internal to the left to the left of 75 75's to the right on the screen what's this right here 75's to the right of the screen right yeah to the right it's where that right do where where's Old Pasco Road right inside it yeah well have going on on that road no so so what I'm so as I said earlier if you took this pole and moved it to the right it's getting it closer to that whole surface he's trying to fix anyway but also getting closer to existing Verizon facilities which again these are all designed to help offload from each other and so see here it's kind of a balancing act between the different sites and I'll bet you if you put that yellow dot over just the side is probably real close to even with those two blue dots it's not a big difference and it's away from the homes are you putting G over there yet you know those little ones that go every they got on Little Road small cell are you coming in on Old Pasco with small cell not at this point no we're not there's not enough site density enough us user density along that road small cells because of all the trees and the dense trees in the area they don't get very far off the road so we do that more in like the Miami type morphologies downtown Tampa has small cells we have them on Little Road yeah we have we have some out there it just has to be a lot enough density of people please put some in Trinity so as I look at this here

right to the right of that you still get a good amount of red that's open yes and most of that area is the the east side of that large parcel that the the land owner owns that's not even developed so we're not interested in covering that area that's not where our usage is coming from there's there's additional information that that Verizon gets from our our our users that we cannot share in a in a in a public forum as as such um it's it's customer proprietary Network information basically it shows where our users are actually using the the services and we get to look at those maps and see where the actual usage is coming from and this site does meet the requirements to offload enough traffic to get us into the future um for the sites in the surrounding area now do I have a clear picture of the previous slide and can we put them up side by side [Music] skills impressive that one that one I think you have it so that cell tower goes up I don't see a lot of change to the except to the right so moving that pole to the right it's not still not going to hurt the coverage it's going to cover it everything else to the side from over there you're not going to change much anyway I don't I don't see any harm with moving it to the right with less people I I mean again I would say this is an RF issue and design issue your third party independent consultant he reviewed it and said there is a need and there is a need in this location need or not from what you're showing me from where this map clears out the red to the side I don't see any difference to it I mean I I don't think it would hurt you at all by moving it to the side because you're still going to still you might even get better coverage from the people that are over there anyway I I mean I I appreciate your comment but again I I think this is this is an engineered design system that's been proposed by Engineers reviewed by Engineers as being appropriate and has opposition from residents so at this point in time time I'm not going to support it I'd rather have you go back work with the residents work with your engineers and work with the land owners see if you can move it to the side you saying for him to move it to the right side of that property I'm saying to the right there's less people over there there's more room you can go up to the north and I don't think it's going to hurt to the house is looking looking at the at Google Maps there's some let's let's go pull pull let's go pull the property map up again thank you very much you did a great job getting those double screens that was perfect so I don't know if you can see the houses so where you can you lower that so right now it's on the left side over here

actually where's I think it's over there and they also own the parcel oh is that a wetland yeah that category 2 so they can't go up so the so if you put up that top right you're going to be less further away from all these people top right where the property up there and access is what is that a roadway that runs all the way up there dirt [Music] road yeah TR line up there so they even have access up there oh I I'd rather them go back and take a look at this I'll say from an RF standpoint the further you put us away from people the the harder it is for us to cover those people so there there's a reason why we try and be near people is to cover them your Maps don't justify it I don't see I don't I see the Improvement your coverage is all to the right side anyway from what you just showed when we just had the maps up side by side so if I my moving it over there it's probably not going to change much of that it might even get you better coverage from what you're showing right there but I want you to go take a look at it I'd like to continue this un let you go take a look at and bring it back to us all right and and that's fine I mean if that's the the that's that's mine but I'm only one of five votes here commissioner waitman hey thank you thank you presentation I appreciate everybody who reached out reached out to the office uh I'm not I'm not oppos hisor consistently to to sell SS the C cover is the way we communicate in today's world um it's necessary uh there's a lot of room here and uh there's a lot happening up and down OAS Road especially with the roading project coming and everything else go on there I hate I hate to see a cell tower not go in we have communities that that are very nearby that that are really urging to have cell signal put in there that way they can they can hold their signal so if there's a way those y'all can figure out a way to make this work got meet this morning in in the middle uh I I for that don't want to see a project how much is coming this thank you thank you commissioner W and tell you to your point to Old Pascal Road this gets it closer to Old Pasco Road so when that development does come in it actually helps them uh and again I'm not I I know we need sell Towers I just want to make sure we pick the best location and if you're supportive to make the motion to continue I'm sure the vote would support you uh how quickly can we get get back because there there's always you know the growing C hours there's always days she was saying November 14th November 14th November 14th okay

commission waitman they said they can bring it back November 14th to us and I think that would give them time to meet with the residents as well as setting up the new maps and be able to show us what they could do yeah don't I'm not for them giving up I want to no no I don't want to give up either so I'm to continue the item appreciate appreciate you all working working through this a little bit little bit long thank you the commissioner's motion would be to continue to November 14th at 1:30 at or as soon thereafter as say may be heard and I'll second that in discussion okay I I'm going to agree with commissioner waitman and you know we've seen this lots of times times um that people don't want a cell tower they say they're fine but um we heard that from the residents of starky ranch but you you cannot make a phone call from the library uh star TLC you can't um when they get overloaded it happens you can't make you I Dro calls driving down starky bouevard my mother-in-law who's now in Hospice at at Watermark down the street you have to walk outside to talk to call the nurse to come in um it's these are these are very serious issues a lot of people don't even have L land lines anymore so we have to be mindful of um making sure we have our grid and listen I helped write that cell tower ordinance I'm not a you know I cell towers aren't the prettiest thing but but they're necessary I I I do question the 155 ft I mean is that that so if it was lower it would be administrative so what is the height that we go for um administrative approvals so administrative approvals really to a certain extent not only have to do with height but also has to do with the way it's camouflaged and it depends on uh the land use um and also administrative approval so like for example an administrative approval for something like this would probably be a unipole and you've received commentary that those do not work for s tower companies anymore because of over competing because the size of their equipment Etc um I think something in the future that we really need to do is look at um one2 uh Wireless Communications facility that section of the code because a lot of things in there are a little bit outdated outdated yeah all right all right so we have a motion commissioner [Laughter] wman uh but if we look to uh Mr this point we look at the natural you know like what's L project that looks like you know a lot of pines and we find have to buffer significant as this I don't know how we make that rule I go long long way yeah I think and I think we can cover that maybe even committee reports we can talk about a little bit more but uh we have a motion to continue in to November 14th gentlemen I appreciate the willingness to work with it and if he can work on the camouflage too great but uh call the role all right district one commissioner

Oakley I District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District 5 chairman Marano I motion to continue thank you very much appreciate it okay item P85 I know Denise is going to speak to it before she gets to it I I hear we're going to continue this and we did have some residents Monica wise who I saw right before the meeting had talked to her on the phone um she dropped off a folder for all the commission as well as for the administrator to go take a look at what are we continue I need a motion to receive and file so hold on first this was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times August 2nd 2023 now proceed J just read the title that way we know we're receiving and filing for that title excellent thank you is this for 85 this is for P85 P85 PDD 24 7710 it's a zoning Amendment Village Green mpud lbd1 LLC resoning from AR agricultural residential and ar1 agricultural residential to an mpud master plan unit development to allow for maximum 470 dwelling units and 14,000 ft of neighborhood scale commercial and approximately 48 Acres as the commissioner stated the request came in last night to continue the item to the no November 14 2023 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in D City okay I'm move um well I just wanted to share something with you all so I mean I'm okay with continuing it but there's something good good okay so I wanted I have I think I have the developer permission or the planner whatever to show the layout are you okay with that show it on the okay I just want to say um I don't remember how many units are in this Denise how many units are they proposing okay so if that this were an apartment complex that' be a pretty big apartment complex um I just think it's a very very creative layout for multif family that I encourage um for for the type of place making that we want to have so I don't you know I don't know what's going on in my future immediately with the family issues so who knows if I'll be here when it comes back um so I just want to be sure and say that I think this is a very uh good layout you're seeing have you guys met with the the applic so the Village Green they've got like commercial uh along the green um those are Apartments circling it then you have town homes and I I'm yeah it scales down as you get away from the Village Green and it rear loed product It's a Wonderful Plan it's a good plan it's a really good plan it's going to look so nice from the street and it's going to be an asset in my opinion I I there's people here to object but um in my mind it's an asset to the community around it um so I can see art you know all kinds of festivals in that build green and this is kind of what we talked about when we say plac making so kudos to the layout on this plan and they they they

have made some great great strides in in the development I would uh encourage them and I think they're going to from what I hear with staff and everything work together to the other corner cuz we've got a circle that we're trying to work on right uh and I I will tell I drove it I drove the site this morning coming in so I went down curly Road I zipped over back the other way went back up to 52 went down W Road drove all the way down the dirt road to come back connect back over across so I did the whole thing so I recommend maybe on the way home we can go take a drive and take a look at it I'm sure you D going down the road that's behind I think they need to access that and that's part of the great thing about staff and them working with the other developments that's right around it too they're working together can kind of put that together the staff had some good conditions they were trying to work it out too with the people so I think Contin this down we got a chance real that group's working I'm optimistic when makes something good happen y okay needs to be a grid and that's part of the problem with water grass I don't know if you remember but that developer came in in and asked us to not connect the roads and I told you all that was going to be a real problem and now it's a real problem for that Community cuz the roads we didn't make him connect to the communities around him and everyone's going out on that main road so one and we should not let them do get away well we should go ahead and develop that road that goes all the way to 301 and meets up with Casi to the north to the north we would have had to make the connections not us uh if we followed with what we say we want in connectivity but that is a classic example of where we we we let and get away with it so with that so before we go further there's a there's a there's paperwork that we want to get brought to us to receive and file put in by Monica wise so I have a motion to receive and file that you have a motion a second a motion a second okay so I'll call motion under under a motion right now this is a separate this is just but I think we have to act on our motion with the Motions to receive and file right now we didn't call the vot on what what did we rece we work on continuing but we haven't got continue because you haven't taken public comment we got to ask for public com if that if that motion was on the floor it's it's not no we don't have a motion for that yet we can't even get there was this on 85 that you're going on P85 for the hang on uh to receive we're going to make a motion to receive and file in the paperwork it was submitted to us for okay I'll move have a motion for that do I have a second second okay sorry that's for reing that's for receiving and file reing and file the information put in by Monica wse today all right district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky I District Four commissioner

Bradford District Five District 5 chairman marianao I okay now before we could continue because it was an advertis fors we still would have to call for public com right so Mr chairman as in the normal the normal course if you haven't advertised it as a continuance I recommend that you give the public an opportunity to speak if they cannot attend the continuance date which is November 14th November 14 City at 1:30 in in Dade City if they wish to speak now however they wave their speaking at the November meeting so that's up that's up to that's up to the public so that'll be up to the public so if anybody cannot make November 14th and does not want to wait till then you want to come forward to speak we'll take your public comment now but you will be precluded from speaking in the future I recommend from just moner and if you really want to speak I would wait till this goes further yes you can't speak from there you cannot speak from there um you can bring her up to that if she question all right ask question but she's got to do it on the mic yeah this won't be part of public com you going to ask a question name address I'm M name name an address and okay I'm Madonna wise 3297 Leonard Road in San Antonio Florida and you have been sworn and I do excuse me she's asking a question it doesn't matter whether she's been sworn I'm only asking a question I did provide a packet and I would like to reserve my right to speak in at November but I wondered if I might Orient the group the commission to the packet you could have to do one-on one I'm sorry you have to do it one-on-one with us but I could do that could I do that would that be allowed you you can talk to us one-onone like private meetings we have you can do those private meetings right now for public comment if you speak now you won't be able to speak later okay thank you very much I appreciate that Mr yes if I may um Can staff please have one of those packets so that we can include it in the record for the next time it comes up Jessica thank you okay all right so is there anyone to speak to this item anyone weex uh no sir okay and the appli good with the continuance applicant not not in in in support okay um so I have a motion do I have a motion to continue so November 14th well you already have that 85 let me don't ask me I'm getting SE Seth made the motion I thought well I had I had to do it after the so I do it now I make the motion so we have that's was a different one okay so we have a motion second to continue to no November 14th at 1:30 okay roll call district one commissioner Oakley hi District Two commissioner waitman hi District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano hi okay thank you all very much uh item p86 p86 was advertised in Tampa Bay

Times August 23rd 2023 and by affid of certified mailings and site postings item p86 good afternoon Le Divine planning and development PDD 24-17 it is the appeal for planning commission's decision on April 6th 2020 well 2023 um denying variance petition ba 2103 for a reduction in the front yard setback from 25 ft to 20 ft and a reduction in the side set back from 10 ft to 8 1/2 ft in an R2 low density residential district the subject site is located on the south side of Victoria Road approximately 215 ft west of shelfield Road Road Road this is an aerial view of the site the surrounding future land use Is Res six the surrounding zoning is R2 this is a site plan with the variance and this is a site plan without the variance this should look familiar because during the board hearing on September 5th the um the applicant and the neighbor west of the site um came to an agreement um that the applicant shall provide a culvert gutters and downspouts to direct towards the water towards the Culver architectural features and Landscaping during that BCC meeting on September 5th um the BCC continued the item to today's meeting um in Dade City so the applicant and the HOA of the assoc lake pageant Association can meet and come to an agreement and provide input on September 11th that applicant met with the homos Association and came to agreement for the following gutters and downspouts to direct the water to the front Culvert to correct drainage flow and install an underground Advanced Drainage system to install a culvert to plant two additional trees bringing the total number of trees to three no additional Landscaping so not to alter the current appearance um with the homes in the neighborhood um however any new homeowner um can plant um their own landscaping the applicant Soo Builders shall complete an improvement project at the community playground and then the homeos association um did not require any additional architectual features and did not want to the garage to be cut off the 5 ft um again no new testimony may be heard or presented review is limited to the transcript and record from the BC hearing the BCC May reway um evidence previously presented at Planning Commission and may modify adopt or Reserve reverse legal conclusions and conditions of PC and this is coming with a recommendation from staff to Grant the appeal overturning planning commission's denial of the variance as the appellant has complied with the request of the BCC to meet with the HOA and the neighbors addressing their concerns additional conditions may be imposed on the appellant as discussed in our agenda memo okay thank you any questions for Liam no no and commissioner Bradford

commissioner waitman any questions will let me say thank you great job this was a tough one to the residents in the the builder thanks for working it all out thank you I I will say I've had a lot of help with the county attorney's office Elizabeth Blair and Denise erand so I do want to thank them on that that because they helped me present that why I was away last time this wasn't an easy one thank you so we need a a motion Mr chairman before Liam so are there any conditions I I don't see an approval document in the package I may not an approval document because we are waiting on what your vote would be but the conditions would be laid out in your finding a facts um number three a through f okay so the so the conditions that staff is proposing which to the extent we can yes implements the the the private agreement between the association and the Builder are laid out here there may be other conditions in their private agreement but they're not County issues but what staff has done is they have delineated what would what we would be looking for and the and 3 a through F Well 3 a through I would say um C well I think e would be included in that okay well those th those lettered letters under three that are conditions would be part of your approval if you you decide to uh set aside the Planning Commission overturn the planning commission's denial of variance and Grant it the approval document would reflect those conditions correct did I just confuse the board no all okay you have us covered all right any further discussion question yes thank you so if this house were ever sell there won't be any issue selling this house in a second transaction I just want to confirm I forever so they cut a deal I just want to make sure if this thing resells for however long if it does there won't be any issues that have to come back for this board once Rec once the variance is approved and the and the appeal time expires and it's recorded it would travel with the land and future buyers would um would uh have the have the variance uh our code the code is varied as to this particular house as whatever is set out in your variance and there and there was someone sign up for public comment but from what I understand we cannot take public comment because we already closed the public comment portion public comment was closed and this was an appeal to start so the person that did sign up we cannot take any more input we got to work with what we' got all right so is there a motion so I'm make a motion to approve their agreement second okay district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner waitman I District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner

Bradford District Five chairman Mariano hi okay all set well done thank you all and now we go to commissioner items commissioner we go all right well I've had busy month probably a busy last couple of weeks uh I have a few items this time we celebrate the the reopening of Hugh emry library on uh Thursday September 21st uh funded in uh founded in 1904 I believe this to be the oldest library in Pasco County we have uh great Community involvement and thank everyone for their involvement they've had to to help in in this matter when we we got it back together a lot of people missed the library being closed for the renovation uh but they're back in force and they had a great turnout for the ribbon cutting did I have pictures for that or there yeah there you go all right there's a ribbon cutting very good I didn't know I was supposed to speak but I did which when you're P You're always ready I guess so yeah you can say he was a young man when he started human Rel Library it's dark here so we had a great turnout a lot of people there all right now we go to my second item was Tampa Bay Water held our 25th anniversary celebration a few weeks back Friday September 22nd we uh toured the uh seawater desil plant and I there's pict there on the right the plant and I told you about the possibility of U that going to a brackish Wells which would speed up the process and be really really good for getting more water for our customers okay and then we also toured the uh Regional Reservoir and the surface water treatment plant uh the reservoir you see at the top picture and the treatment plants here on the right picture but that Reservoir is huge I can't remember exactly but it's I believe it's 2 mi across and about 3 and 1/2 4 mil long holds 15 billion gallons of water so we have a lot of water there so but then because of that um water we have there and also the desal water and then water from the bypass canal and all that we we blend all the waters together and come out with one very good tasting water so uh our challenges are always coming up with ways to bring in more water for so and that I can tell you that's we're working very hard to do just that so and we'll have someday in the future we'll have a u a little film with uh was some of that film that we had before it's I think it's about an hour and a half or two hours long so we won't be showing that during one of our meetings but there's the pictures of the desile plant right here so there's pictures of the uh Reservoir some of these gentlemen that I actually met there I I didn't know them but they actually are some of the people that started when they did the uh ended

the water wars here in Pasco and P sbur County and uh they they really had a a great vision for what we get out of water when they started Tampa Bay War it's been very good for Pasco County and there's very large fish in that uh Reservoir so and then we went uh last or let's see October 3rd we had a ribbon cutting with uh premier of community healthcare and we were there to speak we had uh commissioner Simpson was there with us and his wife and we had a grand opening now you can imagine all the health uh hospitals that we have and we're gaining cuz we had admin Health we got Bay care came in across the street in Brucey downs we got Orlando Health coming out on 56 we have um another hospital coming on the uh spater wildc cap property or State Property it overpass All Children's Hospitals hoping to come there so uh the benefit of all these hospitals and all the work they did with uh with premar even they had the foresight their directors had the foresight to start this soon enough and in time for the care of our citizens so they really were thinking ahead because they got here but we still have all these other hospitals coming so our community is going to turn into quite the uh Health industry in one day when everybody gets in and gets settled so great ribbon breaking here where we cut it so good uh let me think oh now I'm going to tell you about double Branch but if if you really want to remember what it is for years at least 30 years of my life or more could be 50 years I've heard of this property out here at 52 and and 75 on the south side of 52 as being called Pasco Town Center it's been that for years and years and they've renamed it to a historical name of double branch which is a name that been used way back in time in our history so they name this whole development double branch and uh can't thank them anymore for for what they're doing that's probably one of the largest mixed use developments we got going in Pasco County and happens to be I hate to say it East East Pasco in district one is this your District okay and I would tell you that my district is half of the county but I'm not going to tell you that today I'm going to save that and tell you that some other time but um we got a lot to be thankful for and there a lot more Development coming into Pasco County and a 78 million square ft of office and also 101,000 jobs are coming in the pipeline coming to us so we can work play and and live right here in pasc County without having to live here and then travel somewhere to work so it's coming our way so great thanks and with that that's it okay thank you commission wman I'm going to pass today I appreciate okay Mr stery well I made some notes but I don't so hey before you start can I say one thing I want to

bring up one thing um we all have our own districts and we work in our districts so what I'd like to do is ask everybody if you get a call from my district or anyone else's District I get a call in my office in this District too or or one of the other dist I refer that call over to that District commissioner for where that's at and I would appreciate if everybody does that for me at the same time because there's been some issues that some things were gone without my knowledge actually so okay yeah I think I mean I think we all respect each other's District I I think we do and way back when we did the redistrict and we talked about like like I had the summitry district and we're going to be shifted out of there I said you know everybody respects their own District but sometimes you do get into something as well that's and and if you're going into a district and going to speak about something or or somebody's asked you specifically to come just let the the district uh Commissioner of that District let them know you're coming that would be good or let their staff know y that would be good okay that's it I would I would agree with that because I think with the the um mix up and the the confusions and I'm just looking at some of the letters here with the um the problem with the park you know in my district I think that made it more difficult for everybody um so okay so first I want to say um I'm supposed to be on vacation but here I am because I have an emergency family issue and um and so I don't know what's going on um with the family member but I I may or may not be able to participate in things after today for a while see um also you know I had the vertigo vestibular veritis whatever and I have massive ttis in my in my head and it's very distracting so um it's a like a a horn or a machine is just going off 24/7 so it's hard to so apologize um right now there's nothing they can do about it but they just hope that it'll go away but if you ever had that it's it's kind of funky um so uh first I would start off with talking about the amp skills ceremony that we had last week and I think I have some pictures um two pictures I didn't take a lot of pictures oh someone else did um so there we are cutting the ribbon and and Congressman Bill arus why rushed back from Washington DC after the McCarthy debacle to um to be there to uh help us celebrate uh our grand opening we um we moved all the training equipment out of the middle and put it into our training rooms to see 200 people sold out event um on the on the stage there you see the board members our current chair and vice chair is um Leroy I don't remember Leroy's last year last name he is the vice president of manufacturing for Coca-Cola he's to my to my left as you're looking at us um Senator Hooper representative joerger I think commissioner Whitman's up there commissioner Mariana is up there so um I didn't get my piece of

ribbon they were supposed to cut it little pieces and give it to us and we didn't get it but I had some I thought that the gentleman gave our lead speaker was Mr Paul Perkins in came in from Indiana the CEO of amatrol the probably the world's largest manufacturing training equipment manufacturer and he gave us some interesting slides so um I'm hoping that we get him back to PDC but I just had three that I emailed did those come in did you okay cuz I I saw I was no not that there their slides like I I saw was using maybe your a wrong em there's one okay so if you can make that so this is uh okay you've gone too fast but all right we'll go with that one can you make it bigger are you able to zoom in on the well quit scrolling through them and just pick one and zoom it so I can read it please so can you zoom in on on the uh chart you did wonderful there you go okay reshoring and for foreign direct investment job announcements per year look how many jobs are coming back MH that's not saying that we're filling them but that's how many job opportunities we have this is in in manufacturing specifically and that is insane since Co hit how many people are saying we got stuck and we couldn't have this the the pieces that we need to put what our puzzle together and we got to make bring those back to America and make those here all right uh another job another um this one was amazing this is the trend in Rapid technological change so in 1900s our knowledge D base doubled every Century 1945 every 25 years in 19 I think that's 82 12 to 23 months 12 to 13 months sorry today our knowledge based Devils every 11 to 12 hours that that is insane watch out artificial intelligence right and one more oh I have two more that one is this is what's hurting us in manufacturing and this is in the country not not here but 59% said that the number one one issue is is skilled skilled labor and then um he he mentioned that another another one that the both number one and number two were were had to do with work force so I don't we don't have that slide okay I think there's one more oh that's Career and Technical education a lot more people are um starting to pay attention to Career and Technical education and if you see it's um women are really rising in that a lot less people are heading to fouryear degrees so uh we are we are on top of it here in Paso County so um the other interesting thing if you don't mind me saying this Mr Perkins who's one of the world's experts on manufacturing training said that um when they decided they were going to put in four Regional training centers they went around the United States and looked at all the programs out there to find the four best and we were number one well that's great

and we were the first one that um they went into and that he thought our program was so good that it should be replicated all across the United States and I remember talking to Tom way back when we were up I think in in DC we talked about how they really like what we're doing so much that they might want to train other people I says well that's good but I want to train them somewhere else and train him right here yes so Tom Tom went up to Indiana last year with uh some our staff and we had met we had met the amol folks when we went with uh U Mr wanck the CEO of acid Furniture he flew a whole bunch of us up to uh Indiana because they they have a great manufacturing program and amatrol was there and um and when we asked the manufacturers here what kind of training equipment do you want us to have cuz we are industry-led um they picked amaton and so then we went up there and met with them well Tom did I didn't go in Indiana they learned more about us cuz the CEO of amol hadn't been there when we went to Indiana and um and he's heard nothing but accolades about us and he came and and saw the result I think Jack commissioner star it was a tremendous night You' be really proud of it was it like packed house couldn't get any more people in there in the presentations like this the people that got to speak about how they we helped Chang their lives was amazing too yeah so great work yeah she's if she's are you done sure or close to B cuz you reminded me of one another item that I had that I didn't bring up and the reason you reminded me of it it was about the orange Bel Trail so your name just rings out Trails so I thought about it and we had a meeting last week at San Antonio with the city council and had this meeting and we answered their questions and they were upset people and I thought I was walking into the room that a lot of upset people because of the trail and in actuality they were not upset about the trail at all they actually want the trail they just didn't want it Meandering down through the small streets and small areas they have through the neighborhoods they were felt that was imposing on their homes and things of that nature so they were trying to choose that we take it and go back to County Road 52 alignment to Happy Hill and then across to Blandon Road Ramsey Road and Blandon road that way in the actuality when you do that you bring that trail and it can go all the way to Blandon all the way Trilby and connects to the Hardy Trail and then if you take that point where it hits uh Blandon Road on that first H where you go to Blandon go right there and connect there back to the Hardy Trail you have a huge circle yeah it really it really connects a lot of things so I you know I have friends that live out here and um I won't put them on the spot here now but they all are really excited about the trail and and I know there are some people who think we're going to come in over their house well some of them think we're going to take away their land you know we have tried to reassure them that

that's not the case but I am you know if I was going to be gone till October 23rd but here I am so uh all things things go well u i will be they will be driving me around some of the people here and and I'll be actually driving or or riding my bike on some of the alternative routes so I know the area better because I don't know the area well um but I have a lot of friends who come and cycle out here how far do you ride a bike well I have a pedal assist bike cuz I would not ride out here up the hills I only ride downhills with my pedal assist I can go up the hills my ride wife rides a bike 14 miles yeah I can't do that I do 40 30 40 with the amazing up the hills but um so I do plan to to come and and look at it more closely but we don't need to solidify a route today um the the rout you know it's going to be piece by piece by piece we don't have the money to build it all and um and I would imagine that that piece out here will be one of the last pieces we do so it'll be a number of years and we don't need to have a lot of Hysteria about it yet we'll let it somewhat happen organically and um but I this is this is not uncommon for a trail in any community that happen this happened in Fales County I will say this citizens who lived in the people who live in Cypress Run which is by me they mixed it coming behind their Golf Community on the old orange belt Trail line and they regret it now they thought people were going to jump the fence and Rob them and you know throw TVs over their 10t High masonary wall and on the other side of their golf course I mean I think they realize now it's it it's an asset to an area it raises your proper values a minimum of 15% so Trails can be just a wonderful thing but we're not going to force it on anybody and we'll we'll find our route here oh yeah that will make it'll work out so um so I wish I had my notes in better order I had written some things down here um we talked about the food or ordinance last time the truck ordinance food truck ordinance about taking a tweak at that um I we talked about the Landscaping Grant to tweak that maybe to include affordable housing projects did we talk about that last time did I I don't remember talking about that so I we have $3 million in our uh our trust fund and it grows steadily um we need to get that money back to the communities with trees planted in my opinion um and small businesses too huh and there's money there for small businesses to do land yes we have we have a a grant program for people people who um you know get caught in that 50% rule so now you have to comply with the the county rules so we have the ability to um help them pay for their Landscaping but I think that we should be I don't think we have a well I think we do have an arborous on staff actually I think you have a tree AR you okay yeah so there are many places where we can be going in and planting trees and I personally it it kills me to see a grand oak get knocked down and and there's so much H there's

so much wild life that lives in a in an oak tree I read somewhere it was it supports like 500 species where a palm tree I say just supports cockroaches and rats so um so we need to be putting our our tree canopy back in and if you look at what a lot of cities are doing especially you're doing a lot of the resilience stuff um one of the best ways to cool things down uh is putting your tree canopy back in and shading your parking lots and shading your houses and shading your you know walkways and um when we walked the other day when we we had a lunch in the um the utilities building and we walked back it was you know a very uninspiring walk when it could have been nice and we have the money let's put it to work I know there were other things that I wanted on that subject though yeah so and I was working at an affordable housing project up in Hudson that wanted to get the trees and it was a struggle to do it so we should be able to if we if we could Mike let's get with staff to go bring back some less strict language to go change this because any affordable housing project we got especially it's already built that doesn't have any trees around it we should be putting those trees in yeah any any County Park we have we should go in anybody with the business let's say on 19301 even 41 that needs the help let's go get those trees because you know those those funds are there for like help on landscap and all but a lot of people don't know about it my goodness and so I don't know how we bring it up to their attention but somehow we need to explain I guess in our advertisement when we have on our website or something and the show that and the purpose of the ordinance was to put a tax on trees being taken down so you could replant them so by making it too tough to get the money out it tough now we can't have every resident going to do it but and business that's coming in we should help them with an incentive that's an easy way to do it that doesn't cost any money from the general fund right all right so mik if you can work on that perfect I don't know why um my staff said someone told them that the only place it can go is for redevelopment I said no that it can go in any county-owned property plus re Redevelopment that's just a small portion of what we're using it for but I think we should expand it to Portable housing and more port and and and I think like for Habitat I mean let's give them the tree let's pay for them to put a tree in the yard yeah so um okay so I I just got a call and a text from secretary gwy and it's um this is kind of going out to David um and they're asking if uh we can have the regional noou at the mo meeting on Thursday so apparently you just you guys got Friday it came in after we we assigned r ls's on Friday so it was assigned yesterday afternoon okay assigned to I mean what do you to do well the the problem is it has no legal review and it is not really anou oh well it's been approved by Hillsboro no it will be voted on tomorrow by hillsb and

pelis and and so we'd like to we need it at our it's that one that is it one that we're want to be a part of that research it's a research yeah and it's just a we should be a part of that it's actually required by the legislator so oh yeah we should be a part of that and we I think it's set up we can do that on Thursday we actually tweaked it at the TMA uh to make it even a little better Jack you were on the line Seth was online so um I mean I'm I'm good with it to move forward and yeah of course we it's the problem the problem is if it is a memorandum of understanding then why do do it have venue Prov uh Provisions about who's going to sue who where that you know it it particular pet peeve if it's a memorandum of understanding it's aspirational if it's an agreement and it and you want it to have teeth it should have teeth but then but those are two separate legal reviews I don't recall anything about Su with the stuff we looked at yeah I didn't see that either but but we wouldn't be suing during a a study so it's not the final mou and I think we can work on all that well is it the no no no well then what do you want PR presented that's that that's all right so why don't we do this why don't Jeff if you would send to us or Mike send to us what we're going to be looking at and we can give you our comments because obviously the meeting will be over by then and see what happens Thursday at least we can review it ahead of time sure with all the all the board members I mean I we can strike through Provisions that we don't think should be in it but but now I'm hearing that that pelis pelis and Hillsboro it's in final form for them just as the just as I don't think it's in final form no no well no they're they're voting on it tomorrow they're voting to be in the study of the no's being a regional no to study it to only to stud correct it's not a final doc it's not a final document it's just yes and we should be a part of the study I mean call Secretary Quinn if you whether we're part of the whole F or whoever his point person is but he's the one calling me he's called me twice he he he was just calling me too yeah so all right um where's it been the uh okay so this is the before and after of the Burger King on US 19 and um you can see we did such a good deal with these this guy so he remodeled his building and he came in I wish those P these power poles were down but he came in all upset because he actually had started his remodel before the sign ordinance changed but he got caught in that Improvement that we made in it and um didn't and didn't realize that he was going to have to um change his sign and it was a new sign um a new face that was up up on that tall one oh well you you can't even see the tall one his sign was so high you couldn't see it when you were anywhere near you only can see it way down the road so um I want to thank our staff for working with him and we saved to him so much money cuz we just

let him take his sign faces that he already had done and we just turned him into Monument signs and so the one they are so much more noticeable than the L way up in the air so those are the two signs that he had um and he just took got rid of the poles and put the sign face and it fit just great into Monument signs so um I wanted to show that to you and in his remodel you see brought his building a little closer to the street and um so look at it next time you driving down 19 Jack here you'll remember that this is right there in Holiday mhm it was uh a sign I was very anxious to see change because everyone else that's coming in is you know putting in the 11 foot sign and and this guy was way higher than everybody else so it was a little un unfair uh advantage and as you can see is you can see it great it's very noticeable so he's he's very happy um one so I have one something on golf carts and I don't know if Katie emailed you the map but we this and we're not the only Community that's having this problem but in Gulf Harbors did you get a map from K my my Aid Katie doski on the entrance to Gulf Harbors okay if you could just go to Google Earth and um 19 and flar we have this weird situation where the road is benat he's not here um the flo uh flar is a County Road and then you have that um Construction office on the corner mhm that that little piece of that road I don't even know if it has a name it's in front of it is County and then it comes to the city property and there's Widow Fletchers so the the sheriff is ticketing our golf cart residents because of that little strip between flar and the rest restaurant and it's a side road it's not even a yeah it's a frontage road it's a frontage road and they're all getting ticketed can you please put up Google on floor Mark and and I I just it I just can't believe that that there is better things to do yeah and if need be I would say let's vacate that road give to the county and give it to the city just let vcat make it a golf cart accessible well I don't know why that we've had this discussion for years and we thought it was all taken care of and now now they're in there giving people expensive tickets so he can add that really e he said it's going to take weeks for him to find the answer and I just people are getting ticketed every day okay well I'm not aware of it I'll follow up with vcat for the sake of your you need Google Earth flar and what was the intersection it's flar 19 okay well kind of 19 you need to zoom in on it I what's what's what are we doing here cuz we're way too South there you go okay now go up just there you go now can you go to Google satellite or there we go okay and zoom in and you'll see floor Mar and and then I think you should zoom

in just a little more and then Center this 19 no other way go and zoom in just a little bit more you'll see Flor Mark comes in to 19 oh that call Flor Mar Terrace look at that there you go weird so that Flor Mar Terrace going north south the portion from Flor Mar Terrace to just in front of that round building is the county and then you hit the City of Newport Richie and that's where people getting um that's where people getting ticketed on that road right there to the nice quiet little road yeah and if you turn around the other way to where that car is that's the ticket Zone because it's not in G in the Gulf Harbor's neighborhood and it's not in the city yeah just have kind change that so it should be using so H how do we is that a problem since it's not in the neighborhood it's got to go through the pro the golf cart authorization process there's there's a process for that well golf harbers is a golf cartun we already did that is the rest of this property cities um where the black top starts there where that grass starts that is the city right up here there that on the other side that's the right here is the city that's what I was going okay this end not even that that end so so is the issue because it's in the city in the city is no City's a golf cart City it's the issue is that 100 foot strip that's they're saying is outside of Gulf Harbors who's issuing citations PS Sheriff what's on room so we can vacate that give it to the city we don't have to can add it in V can add it in just like he he's done it elsewhere like he started H he started section then it was another connecting piece put one connecting piece in put another connecting piece in he can add that in he's probably done that part of the study I'll gladly give a road to the city though that's well if it's only 100 foot strip we we probably should yeah no okay make a little adjustment on it real easy Ben can do it all right so bringing that to your attention and uh what district is that yeah that is yours isn't it I guess it's cuz it's the gulf Harbor's uh people they're calling me it's it's close it's I welcome to hand it over to you it's yours now and you guys already heard me talk about what's coming um to the starky TLC um Carlton Ward Jr it's going to be a fantastic event it's going to be outside so you bring your own chairs because we're going to have lots and lots and lots of people all right anything else I think that's it all right commissioner Bradford he probably got offline appreciate him staying along long as he did should to come next time I'm going to go to him first um I've got one item actually I got a couple items

but one of them is go to the administrator oh administr thanks Jeff we were here so for so long um but you're losing a for all right actually well I do need to vote on one thing so we can skip over I is is he gone commissioner waitman yeah commissioner wait still there he come back but he wasn't he wasn't feeling what so he dropped off yeah I probably dropped let's wait until hopefully comes back all right so I I'll go to the county attorney um well I actually need you to vote as well um or at least give me consensus um I need a litigation assessment as as the board is probably aware um you authorized me sometime back uh appr propo of this morning's discussion to engage outside Council um for the keep wanting to say p but it's pasas litigation the the um fire fire foam litigation that is ongoing um there are settlements that have been proposed with by 3:00 a.m. in Dupont outside Council would like to meet with you in litigation assessment meeting um I would propose um based on chair's absence at the next meeting and the if that's still on the cards and the fact that we've got a bond signing over the break to do it on the November 14th meeting during your either immediately after morning business or at launch I'd say let's do lunch well I mean immediately after after if you get done early we'll we'll have we'll be ready to do it or or whenever you break for lunch that'll be the first we'll get get you in and get you out but if that's if that's acceptable to the board um we'll take care of the necessary processes to do the litigation assessment me meaning for that for that meeting so commissioner we're looking to have an meeting for litigation assessment on November 14th soon as we done with the morning part of the meeting or the the lunch break okay all right yeah okay here you go thank you that's all okay Mr M so one good news item but let me start with the the voting item here so item C11 on this morning's consent had a scrier error in it and I I just need uh need to formerly advise the board and just ask you to accept this uh the September 3rd hearing at 9:00 a.m. was incorrectly labeled with the location of Newport Richie but the meeting should be correctly labeled to reflect date City or DC if I could just vote to accept that and change the record that would be great have a motion so move second district one commissioner o there's no there commissioner back on district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner that was an i District three commissioner starky I District Four commissioner Bradford District Five chairman Mariano Hi and then uh I'd also like to uh just publicly recognize Dr

Whitney Elmore Cooperative Extension and Sonia nce uh who will receive the Excellence and Community Development team award and this was for their outstanding work in teaching Mental Health First Aid in Pasco County Mental Health continues to be an issue that affects First Responders employees and just people in in alike and so this this course is an amazing eight hour course that teaches folks how to recognize signs and more importantly what to do to help help folks so uh we just want to congratulate them for their outstanding work in that in that area and in that field so that's all I have M okay all right so I have two items the first one is um a new partnership that the board might be interested in um so many of our customers pay in cash um in fact many of them don't have a bank account um so when they get paid by check they use services like a cash checking service like an amcot and so we partnered with Amscott and when the customers cash out their checks Amscott can look and see if they have a pending traffic infraction case with our office um and Amscott can process payment for that infraction so partnering with them allows us to expand Services uh to customers without increasing cost so it's a new service um just wanted to make the board aware of that um and then the second item is the clerk sent an email to the board yesterday afternoon you have a copy on the day um she sent a letter uh requesting clarification on the budget cuts from the budget public hearings on the 19th um uh a revised table two was submitted to our office after the budget hearing and it's unclear if the expenditure cuts are consistent with the intent of the board's motion at the hearing it appears that 100% of the board's Cuts were taken out of reserves while the constitutionals were taken out of their operating budget and the clerk is asking for clarification who said that we it it appears and it is hard to tell and so we are asking for clarification I thought the cut actually cut came from each department yeah each we cut it evenly so we we cut evenly that is correct um and then as far as each each share um I think the board's direction to me was to use my discretion on that so I did elect to take uh the board's cuts from reserves this year with the intent of replenishing that with the increase in tax bill assess value for the following year so I mean if the board would like the cuts to come operationally we can certainly make make those cuts so that that was the intent uh I just saw the letter this morning so I'm happy to go through it and and look through those things but uh if the board wants to have further discussion on it I'm going to need time to look through that and and go can you can you explain that again you're saying you've taken all of it out of Reserve no I took the board's portion of that and what the other ones want to do they they can they can handle now the other the others don't necessarily have reserves that they can putut into but that's a

tool that I have at my disposal so I used it we not have something on the call for this discussion s right here oh he is I'm here okay what's the question well there's no question really I guess I mean I'm I'm happy to review the letter and go through it with our budget team and and come back so I'm you know we can we can have the discussion at a future board meeting I'm okay with having flexibility okay okay yeah that's that's Mike's job trust commun to figure that out good um well okay so let me bring something up since we're talking about money and budgets um I got a call from Alex De and I know I talked to Eric about this um so two years ago um Mr biles started on a path to help animal services with a capital project that we started down the path apparently they need a facility um Eric probably knows more about than I do and um so I asked Eric to do a little research into it because what Mr de told me was that it one one half of the funding was for the for the design was to be in the 22 budget the other half of that design was to be in the 23 budget working its way to a capital um building that Animal Service apparently has been asking for for a while um so Mr Diva had been asking me if I would help to make sure that that building got built and I suggested there's grant money out there let's be ready to ask for some money to help build that building and he said and I don't want this do not you have to have the design part done before you can ask for some money so um so then I I called Mr I called you but you were busy so Eric and I had a conversation and he did some research can you fill us in on the spot I'll do my best ericx count internal services for the3 budget Design Services expansion building plan at time to have the second half not includ the design CH in preparing the budget what has been accomplished thus far with the design M set aside in3 is conceptual and schematic design so there the design hard to construction documents addition money so what I asked what I understood was it was like 240 280,000 264 I thought it's approximately $240,000 okay and we gave half of it we budgeted half of that design in 22 were you involved in this I had no no no okay I was involved in the conversation with Mr D okay yeah and and so and so we budgeted 12 something, and we got 10% we we gave half we budgeted half the money we got 10% of what we needed I don't understand what happened there so I think what what administrator biles had put forward was just a it was like Eric said it was a conceptual design um you know there's there's efficiencies if you do an entire design all at one time if you kind of peac meal things that cost a little bit more but I think it

was a cash flow issue so I I think we're at a point where you know I think to to Mr Dee's point and his conversations with you individually uh that we we need about a quarter quarter of a million $250,000 to take what's been done turn it into uh buildable plans which then become a shovel ready project if you will um barring permits and other things but um you know the simple fact is is we did have to remove it from the 24 budget um just you know it doesn't mean that you can't it's a one-time Capital expense those are usually the first things that we we cancel um so we would either need to replace something in the existing budget or again you you draw from reserves to pay for it unless sir that's correct for the record the the amount budgeted in 20 FY 23 was $200,000 a task order to uh accomplish con conceptual design schematic drawings and all necessary surveying and geotechnical testing of the soil was issued in fy2 that amounted to about just shy of $85,000 so the balance was carried forward but we still need the 240,000 to complete the amount to finish the design and so when I told you ma'am it was roughly 10% that included all geotechnical work etc yeah and and so so that got that fell out of this year's budget that's correct yeah these are our wonderful budget Del from what I hear from the same conversations um there's there's a will in the legislature to try to get this funded but we can't get it funded unless we do the design maybe we can have you bring an agenda item back to us uh say first part of November or and then let's take a look at it see see what it takes to get us to design when we can have a shovel ready project cuz as as we heard from the legislative delegation they clearly said oh they're looking for projects they can get fund sh already is there something to your report I didn't make it to would would the board be looking for a recommendation of a project to replace or would the board be looking more interested in just doing a budget amendment to take from reserves to pay for the design I'm flexible with whatever you want to bring back to us I can we'll bring back options thank you that question so for clity he going to get back for clarity he's going to we've given him flexibility to do what he wants to do with his budget whether he does reserves or whatever so board out of reserves the Constitution out out of operating budget all right what I I'm Mak to hear your report all right so um legislative delegation I'll touch to that first I it was a good presentation as far as they listened to everything we said a lot of discussions honed into if we're going to fund projects we want to make sure the sh are ready um representative mag actually talked about roads having them ready to go so getting the design is what's key to get these things funded they didn't want to put a project through that takes a long time to get through you know we've had trouble with sometimes Swift Mud

projects getting them done by the time we get it designed because of different reasons they take so long it looks bad on them they don't like it the representatives feel the same way they want to get projects that of shovel ready ready to go and that'll be the easy way to go so everything we look at and this is one of those projects so did they did we in roice here I guess we put forward our three or four or whatever was I think I have it right here yeah we we we gave him the list question come down bottom Lin is they shovel ready so whatever it may be coming forward are they shovel ready did we give them I mean we were told to give them sh ready stuff so hopefully we did wasn't a secret R inter governmental Affairs officer yes the projects you all selected are all shovel ready um and again I'll I'll repeat those cines neighborhood flood of baitman Parkway Boulevard through Lake pageant the sidewalk and the Trilby road reabilitation well we also said you also included uh the sidewalk over on the West Side the sponsors uh that have that road chose not to do that sidewalk oh really so you need to have to do four projects or they're going to just do the one in the we couldn't call one a sidewalk no okay so nothing in okay all right nothing in the center you have one in West you have one in Central and you have one in East distri okay yeah one in was remember me next year I I I did say if they did have a project they they really like they wanted to bring It Forward we can go bring It Forward too so whatever whatever's going to get them fired up to go get us money wherever it may come from We're flexible and then represent mager as I as I told you so he did not name a project by name he just he just said when we go up to Tallahasse he would like to make sure before we start asking for any additional funding we make sure we complete projects previously funded in previous years do we have things that are outstanding we have one and what's that handcart Road and what's going on with you they're getting ready to award the bid to put it out for construction okay that's pretty good that's water water and sewer that's a water and sewer line water and sewer line okay I when you're done that reminded me I'm going to bring back some sorry it's a event it's a it's branford's I okay thank you Ralph thanks all right I I've got something that I hope you guys have been informed with to some degree uh Terry I'm going to probably need you here for this item it was a on Sun Coast Parkway it's a recommended LDC change to allow RV boat storage along the Sun Coast Parkway not building structures just storage right now the way it's set up commissioner starky important for you to hear this uh currently covered and open storage is prohibit on Transit cor is within 300 ft of the corer along the Sun Coast Parkway for the segment of the

transit quarter that is state north of State Road 52 within the urban service area open RV boat storage may be allowed via special OB section within the 300t buffer of that portion of the transic if the parcel or portion of that CH parcel is Zone C3 commercial light manufacturing District i1 light Industrial Park District or I2 heavy Industrial Park District so sry if you kind of elaborate how this would help well can I tell you why this is even in here why we have this rule because the sunos corridor is considered a Scenic Corridor there's all these rules that come from the state for designated Scenic corridors and so that's that is one of the restrictions in preserving the Aesthetics of the so I would be against doing this if you drive up to the north and go into Hernando County they're not they're they're not there no they're not the sen Senate Corridor P county is all right so I'd rather bring jobs I'd rather bring opportunities bring jobs well this let's say land owner just got to do something with his property other way sits he just has to leave a very treade buffer so we don't see all that junk from the we can put money in for the Landscaping owns and go get the trees too that's why there's the buffer I I I just would be opposed to it unless I just want be Clos to it I don't I don't want to have that look um on that beautiful Road I've worked really hard with a lot of people to get that designated as a Senor Corridor it's a beautiful road but from the part we're talking about all the way down is all industrial we're creating jobs in that whole area up and down I mean I'd rather see doesn't have to be smooshed up against the road can't is there can you tell me where the the site is Terry can you just talk about what the prohibition is about just for the benefit of the board what it is and what it isn't and so the particular code section I believe is section 115.5 G3 um which notes that covered and open storage uh is not allowed within 300 ft of Transit corridors Transit corridors are a number of different uh Road types that crisscross the county in this particular case we're focused on the Sun Coast Parkway north of State Road uh 52 the intent uh when the ordinance was uh first created the intent was to establish a a Zone if you will a belt between the transit Corridor and where self storage facilities would be allowed to go so within that 300 ft we would not not allow open or covered storage that could happen beyond the 300 ft the preservation of those 3 ft the initial or the primary reason was for the preservation of imployment generating land uses area or space for those to actually locate in front the transit quarter similar to how you see metler Toledo or some of the other uh uh major users that are along the Sun Coast or that may front along I75 and so on so so Point um the second was an aesthetic uh reason which

included uh not having to see uh large areas of stored vehicles uh from from the M from the quds thorough fares that enter into the county in this particular case along the Sun Coast you're coming into Pasco and the idea was people should have a good idea of what Pasco is an active vibrant employment generating Space versus is um open or covered store there are no jobs but one CU cuz we run one at ills generated from a boat car storage facility one it's a person who manages the in and out and the monthly collection so that's not a job you know they're definitely needed and and in aana but that's but I I I can't say that the argument for white to destroy the scenic quality of the Sun Coast is for jobs that that wouldn't create any jobs but one well it does something else as well this particular site this is right next to the Dell website that's going to have the retirement community that's going to have that sale Trail going up through it well this thing is a hinge pin of that trail if this doesn't go it doesn't connect the just like they can find another place to park all their boats and Mr chairman if I may add also so the section 1105 was added to the Land Development code in 2019 uh perhaps it was two or three years later an additional amendment was made to the Land Development code as it relates to uh self storage facilities wherein the i1 and C3 zoning districts uh the ability to do outdoor storage of boats and RVs and that sort of thing uh was allowed to be a special exception and so you have this provision in the i1 and C3 zoning districts that you can do this via special exception the the logic of that followup Amendment to the Land Development code was uh to essentially land bank or allow a land banking activity to take place on those properties that don't have Industrial Development yet uh ready to go basically and so um there's a there is a strategy in preserving i1 and C3 for a limited period of time by allowing RV boat storage on those on those properties I can see that in in places where appropriate um yeah because it's not probably the highest for certain pieces of land but I will also tell you for example driving down Massachusetts and that new one that's there on the left where they I mean they take out every single tree I mean it's not like it's a landscaped parking lot where there's a treat there's do we have what room do we have for RB storage at any landscaping or anything uh I would have to check there's none it just do the perimeter there's there's no requirements inside right Brad um the only the only thing that I would say is that via the special exception you could require additional Landscaping as a condition in approval I I haven't seen one yet that looks very good and I as a matter of fact I I have someone on State Road 54 in Trinity who's contacted me about getting rid of the business that he has right on 54

internity and turning it into an R RV boat storage right there I said please please don't do that that's just not the highest and best use for your property in my heart of Trinity I'm 54 and so it makes me wonder if we shouldn't be improving the areas where those can go um I don't think they should be on 54 or um in in certain places where we want you know a different kind of opportunity than than a junk they really kind of look like junkyards well it's land banking so if someone comes in wants to go build another Factory you can go do it I don't know this piece piece even big enough for it though I'm sorry how how big is this piece couple acres or you're talking about at uh Hills in Sun Coast at this property here yeah we check the map I don't know off top of my head well so once you do that you know we're that's the end of our Scenic protection I commission St remember I showed you the pictures of Switzerland I showed the the roadway the Scenic Place yeah and they had their little Farms along the edge and they had businesses along the edge too they mixed them in yeah this isn't that I'm all I'm all for businesses I mean uh metler too is or touch Point backs up to somewhat backs up to the Sun coast and we worked with them to keep a buffer and I worked with uh um The Reserve to go back to go back in and replace some of the trees between their fence and the Sun Coast so that that tree can be built up again um it when you drive the Sun Coast it's a beautiful road and it speaks well to our County they already cleared it oh other side I don't even think they should be on almost wonder if they should even be on Main arterials they should be off the road main roads they don't generate jobs so commissioner the answer to your question parcel 12 12.4 Acres the G's plastic to the left right that's correct okay I hope they're keeping their buffer their landscape buffer I mean that's something that planning or whoever gives them approvals they got to make sure they're keeping that buffer between them and the Sun Coast the the Sun Coast does have um buffer built into its RightWay um but the Land Development code would add additional buffer on the site particular development yeah so that that Gary need to be buffered on its eastern side pretty well how tall the trees is going to be if the gall bus is going to build it's not that that it's that that that road has to have a certain feel when you're driving on it and you're riding your bike down it so that it's not like you're riding by junkyards and but you got 300 acres of industrial land going beside it what do you think is going to be there it's going be business I hope nice trees along there because that's what we're supposed to be doing and and I'm hoping our staff knows that that's what I'm saying and I'm saying the buildings will be taller even with your Landscaping ordinance those trees

when they go in a pin on the Sun Coast and touch point now a question commissioner wman there what's this building looks like a commercial building to yeah I believe that's G's Plastics and it does have a lot of height to it me keep a buffer and allow them the property is right next to it I don't really understand this rule we allow plastic industrial site there right next to it it's just you would think B be able to use their land I I don't know I don't know the rules of commission me I need get a lesson on that but um it looks like they left a large vegetation commission wa looks like they large left the large vegetation there and if you restrict height you restrict buffer kind backjust through the corridor when you drive by Sun Coast you see metler Toledo do you see a big buffer you see the buildings there no it's the that's touch point and the trees are growing here they're not grown up yet but they're growing to but there's a difference between between see building and see you see the building but you you got a but seeing a RV and Boat Storage that's different than seeing a night a building it look to me like his parking lots over there and his buildings to the left if you put a buffer in just like metler Toledo's done just like uh Gary's plastic is going to do and you have the RV boat storage as those trees grow up guess what you'll see less of the RV storage because the trees will cover it anyway I just I just don't want to lose that that I'm I'm going to vote against it um I don't want to destroy what we've built so preciously on the along the Sun Coast I want staff to be sure that they're requiring these making sure there's nice buffers between anything that goes along that eastern western side of the trail because what do has Isn't Enough we have to make sure that they're adding a nice layer of trees and if touch point doesn't have enough I'm good friends with them and I'll get them to put some more in but we want to preserve that very nice asset for this County in my opinion there's lots of places to put RV and vot Stor all right Terry I want you to bring something back let's do the comparisons let's show what what the CER means let's go look at the visuals show me street side as well as everything else and bring this back into an agenda item so we look at it I don't want to make a decision out no one's comfortable enough with it yet but I think it's worth the discussion because if we're going to take when Bexley was coming in and we knew all the stone was coming in all the way through and we put in specific

extension of the industrial property up to this area so that we could create jobs in this area supporting mfet from down below and now now we're going to block it all off I want to go study it and go look at it even if it's up to this an industrial building okay like I said I want to I want to I want to look at the whole basically junkyard with well that's what they look like they're not they're not nice looking you you you show me take show me a picture of one that looks and then and then we can do and maybe there's some out there um amill has the best looking one but we have a paved parking lot and and a landscape parking lot because we're just temporary but the other ones if you go look at what what's on right down the street no in Trinity or where our other offices if you go on Massachusetts and you look to the left it's not a pretty Sate never mind the landscape is on the inside of the chain link fence but it's just a looks like a flea market or a junkyard it's not anything attractive maybe we can find a way to control the Aesthetics of those a little bit maybe bring something yes so bring something back with the options we could have I didn't catch what the commissioner just control the what what the Aesthetics they look the Aesthetics the Aesthetics yeah that they don't look like they look because we have have no rules we really have no rules on them rules open no I yes I can bring back a report on what we do uh regulate in terms of the open storage and look at the existing conditions on the ground in the area and if there's a need for further Amendment we can uh pursue that as well okay and I mean maybe there's a way to fix the Aesthetics that's that's what I care about is making sure that we don't turn a beautiful Road into something not beautiful if I can create jobs though I want to take a look at creating jobs it's not a job it's one job no I'm just saying no I'm just saying but I'm I am saying the scenic Corridor rules along the Sun Coast Parkway especially in this part of it right here could restrict jobs coming in from Land that's been Zone industrial not really CU we we have industrial longing I just want to bring it back so we can study it because I want to look at this whole thing so we can have a clear discussion know exactly what we're looking at and what the effects are of the ordinance we put in place that we didn't have to thank you um so I missed the premier opening yeah I had gone to a Brownfield opening Brownfield meeting down in Tampa phenomenal meeting found out our staff was actually at top of brownfields so that industrial park in Hudson has got a good chance to get added to the added to the piece and hopefully that can come along right um if you would could you put up the pictures of uh Green Key you've heard Mr Orchard come before us before this status as well or the lady on the status Lane this is right down by where they are it's just coming into play now there's no there's no attachments to the email you send no

attachments no sir okay anyway there's so there's a homeless Camp going on to the east of heavenly way uh just out the grow mic and it's right on the roadway and trash canals waterways Etc all get affected by what's going on there so if you could let's get the team out there take a look at it um on May 9th and 10th the regional resiliency Leadership Summit for the reg from the regional 10 Bay Regional planning count Coalition will be starting uh this coming year again uh they've actually got their Flyers out already so hopefully we'll set up with some sponsors yeah so they did good this time they're they're ahead of the game so May 9th 10th if you can make it Mike if you could put that in your calendar again we greatly appreciate it um we've had great uh response from the community as we're doing our studies for resiliency everything we're learning is great and we're getting a lot of participation along we figured this year because the legislature we've done we make it a lot of State Legislative really watching what we're doing as well and does anybody else have anything for the go to the order yes I had something and I have to find my notes okay try to it was I wrote a note but I didn't give myself good enough not oh I know what it was cuz it has to do with Ranford so last year on we um approved money to fix the medians in our roads and now we're in Years Gone by and where are we with that because we haven't done one Improvement yet you say fixed medians are we talking Landscaping yeah okay we put a million dollars in the budget and um we haven't started yet and I don't know is that a contract problem a procurement problem a staffing problem I know we were doing some design work so but I'll let brenford elaborate good afternoon commissioner BR Forum assistant County Administrator yes exactly what the County Administrator said you know the uh architect is in the process of redesigning Designing the uh the medium and then we're going to come back and you know uh construct from the design so I think last time we met with you um we make sure that we just don't go out there and start replacing and fixing this uh medium that need to be uh redesigned by a landscape architect and that's what exact we we are doing a contract has been issued and they are in the process of finishing the this so so we hired the the landscape architect yes and he's in the design process yes in this fiscal year will we see no action no in24 yeah the fiveyear plan the fiveyear plan that I think we shared with you yeah the fiveyear plan we share with you it's you design one year and then you construct the following year and during construction you design another section and then you construct the following year govern so then yeah so in this fiscal year of 2024 is that that's our fiscal year right we just started FC year 24 something that we with the money we gave

you in the 2023 budget is it 23 or 22 we will come back to you I we put we well there's the money you have sitting there to use for something so we will we will come back to you with the schedule that that shows it I know there was an agenda item a few Cycles ago where we hired the landscape architect to do some design I think it was on Little Road yes I think I think we started a little bit late because as I mentioned there were some people who uh we lost you know in the in the public W Department left so it delayed the start of the design so otherwise the intention was to finish the design last fiscal year and then to do the construction um this year so um uh this fiscal year so we plan to finish the designed early this fiscal year and then um plan on doing the construction the following uh and then um wait wait wait I'm sorry my mind stopped thinking what you saying say what you just said again okay what I'm saying is we started uh rather late in the design process last year last uh last fiscal year so we're going to finish the design this fiscal year it's going to take a a a year another year to design to design it no no they started almost I think about maybe 2 months ago so they should be finishing probably the early part of next year with the design uh but the the the thing is you can you need a design to bid it out so we can't even though if they finish it we we just can't go ahead and start construction because we need a design to then budget for the construction it's a new program uh that we are starting so there's a little bit of um Growing Pains at this time but it's a program that we are going to continue to implement so it's going to pick up okay it's going to pick up and and we should be you should be seeing some improvements in the medium in the high visibility areas at least of the county okay so in the spirit of full transparency on budgeting we budgeted a million dollar in last year's budget for the land did we add an additional M and this is a is this a every year we're adding some money to that budget is that how that works so typically if it's in a capital fund it will carry forward so the funds would be available for immediate use so let me go with the budget people we'll talk with branford's team and we'll find out exactly where that's at and we'll give you guys a report back yeah well I don't know I think design was a couple $1,000 is is what they were looking at how much it was a couple hundred thousand I there there was an agenda item we'll we'll we'll pull everything together for you so you can see that for transparency and we'll let you know what what the schedule is I have brought don't leave it I have brought the subject up since I was elected when they went to widen Ridge Road not the rid Road Extension think because I was on the LPA when this came through we paid $75,000 to a landscape architect to design the landscaping for Ridge Road uh and then we got into a lawsuit with the contractor and so that Landscaping and all the money that we put aside for

landscaping they said we're we're going to set it aside until the lawsuit is over whatever happened to all that that is underway I believe actually it goes to bid yes the design the design is underway that I know um we'll have to check again I don't so we did the design I thought we did you have to re you'll have to reup design I mean that that lawsuit took a long time so there there is money in the budget I know to go forward in construction on that on that on that segment of Ridge Road I I remember talking with Tracy about that that was several months ago yeah MH were you here then oh my goodness all right okay I'm we're Jour thank you we're Jour that's a [Music] goodness waterways and Wildlife depend on you to keep them healthy excess fertilizer grass clippings trash oils and pet waste wash into gutters and storm drains when it rains storm water carries these pollutants directly into our lakes and rivers creating an unhealthy environment for fish water foul and other Aquatic animals storm drains are meant for clean rainwater most other discharges are illegal if you suspect an illicit discharge please contact Pasco County Department of Public Works at 72783 43611 me they've helped me keep my home uh raising my two grandboys uh that wasn't for them I wouldn't uh I don't know where we would be purpose of Human Services is to see how we can best meet the needs of the Pasco County Citizens there are various needs um housing food medical needs and various things mental health at both offices we have four core programs one is the E Heat Program which is the emergency home energy assistance program and we help with past du electric bills for that in addition we have something called The Cremation burial service we can help Indigent families in Pasco County uh bury their loved one if they are not able to afford cremation and burial um we have a program called hicr so if someone from Pasco County has Emergency Services provided to them outside of the county we can help assist them in paying for those bills um we also have something called Roundup so we could pass pay help pay for past du um water bills to come here when they have the funding they will do everything in their power to help you if we don't have the funding or the ability to help them we try to connect them with agencies around the county that can help them with um whatever they need but we're a group of 10 very friendly helpful willing to support our citizens as best we can we're very resourceful so if you want to reach us you can go to my paso. um you can also call the offices or stop in we're happy to help we want you to come and you know see [Music] us at any given time 4.8 million people are being sexually exploited across the globe men women and children of all ages races and ethnicities are are exploited for profit women and girlss are disproportionately affected accounting

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