06.20.2023 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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internal consistency providing for repeal or super ability and effective date this comes with a recommendation of approval we have staff to do the presentation believe there is someone to speak well I I want everyone I want everyone to see it see the work that we did okay let's do a presentation all right good afternoon Amy Tull with Planning and Development the item before you today is the adoption hearing for the small or a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Odessa Town Center foreign okay uh sorry about that um so the proposal is a comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Odessa Town Center the uh comprehensive plan amendment is amending the future land use which is existing currently as res 9 residential nine dwelling units per gross acre and RoR retail office residential to PD plan development there's also an Associated sub-area policy included in this plan amendment that establishes a series of three villages within this area as well as a guiding design principles to ensure connectivity land use placement and open space criteria involved within this plan development the subject site is located generally at the southwest corner of State Road 54 and Gunn Highway and the property is located in the South market area here is your visual for the aerial showing where it is located at the southwest corner of Gunn Highway and Interlaken and the future land use currently is RoR and res-9 and the existing uh or the proposed future land use is PD so as most of you are aware uh this is a approximately a two-year Venture we had a series of neighborhood meetings over the last couple years to gather input and information from the community to plan this area to align with the intent of you know what we wanted to establish here being a village core prioritizing uh I'm sorry prioritizing employment generating uses however we did take into consideration the existing resonance and kind of brought them involved into the planning aspect to see what they would like to see and how we can incorporate that into the plan development so this is that was just a couple images of the neighborhood meetings that occurred as a result thank you we had um three we had a consultant draft up three scenarios in relation to the comments that were received from the community so scenario one was retaining status quo meaning simply putting in multi-family that is your normal type of development pattern scenario two was taking into consideration your existing uses and existing infrastructure and kind of retrofitting in a mixed-use type development and scenario three was a complete overhaul disregarding what the existing land uses were and then completely overhauling that area so with

this plan and after taking into consideration the communities wants and needs we went with scenario two so this is going to be your conceptual plan that runs alongside the plan development this conceptual plan establishes the different land use categories being Villages the three villages that you see here are Villages EG which is employment generating Village Li which is a light industry and Village mu being mixed use the mixed use Village is going to be your primary residentially LED Village that allows for multi-family no single family will be incorporated in this area so multi-family attached with commercial retail components as well the EEG area being your middle portion or the um a yellow goldish color that's going to be your employment generating that is Target industry-led employment generating lead no residential uses are permitted within this area and then the IL or Li excuse me Light Industry a long gun Highway in Interlaken that area is prioritized to retain what's already existing being your RoR future land use and your C2 zoning so it kind of kind of retained what was already existing being commercial light industry-led with the opportunity to allow for residential to occur only if vertically integrated so the proposed comprehensive plan amendments consistent with the following policies as you can note policy flu 8.1.2 being your South market area policy flew 1.4.3 transitional land uses policy flew 1.4.7 limits on Industrial uses policy flew 1.6.7 hierarchy access apologize 4.4 limitations of conversion conversion employment locations policy flew 9.1.7 urban service area and policy flew 1.8.7 and 1.8.7 10 which preserves the economic development of the area it's important to note policy Ed 1.4.4 and policy flu 1.8.7 and 1.8.10 as those policies are set in place on the comprehensive plan to ensure that employment generating uses are prioritized in this or prioritized just in general so with the Odessa Town Center we ensured that the existing employment generating capacity within the RoR future land use was not diminished and it was actually enhanced as well as the creation of the employment generating Village and the Light Industry Village both retained the existing employment generating capacity along Gunn Highway as well as increase the employment generating capacity within this Corridor itself oops sorry I think it worked it like worked but it doesn't work okay um so with that the recommendation is to find the proposed amendment consistent with the comprehensive plan and adopt by roll call vote and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have any questions for staff no questions I'm just excited and grateful that we had this opportunity and um be very good for the community in the county so and the residents well I know you had your public meetings and got the community involved yeah commission thank you good work commissioner Starkey this

looks good yeah now to protect it based on the zonings that are in here and live local in our discussion this morning we need to condition or deed restrict the zonings that are in here especially the job creating sites how do we how do we do that I guess this is a County Attorney question because I have several notes and the same question is going to be a redundant theme throughout today's uh afternoon session so how do we how do we protect what's being created here and not eroding away to the live local issue if the if the Apple I think as Mr Goldstein explained this morning um the MP generally the mpds and the straight zonings that are or euclidean zonings that are coming forward are either deed restricting or conditioning their their projects you can I don't believe if I don't believe it you you can't really can put us up area policy on this it basically says you're not going to allow live local to apply it has to be an applicant choice your agenda the guido MPD where they have voluntarily agreed to not that their mixed use area will not be subject to Senate bill 102. so we are handling it at the zoning stage as opposed to the comp plan stage we get so commissioner Wakeman this is commissioner Bradford could you hang on for a minute we're just letting Mr Goldstein come and then we'll come back to you I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't hear it okay trust me all these have to go through me and I don't let staff rezone the commercial industrial without addressing this issue you can ask them all the time okay commissioner Bradford I'm sorry I got a question and I don't know if it's uh for staff or the commissioner what is it you deleting it what was that word you lydian euclidean zoning euclidean zoning yeah is your is your otherwise known as your straight zoning categories it is the C2 C1 uh mf1 those categories that are not plan development okay thank you and it kind of it comes from the long time Supreme Court case of the village of Amber versus Euclid which is why it's called euclide oh that's interesting I thought it was something Latin I thought so too we'll learn it today Mr commissioner Bradford thank you yeah uh commissioner thank you I know that Siri's having a hard time with it too so thank you chair thank you commissioner Bradford so Mr Goldstein we vote on this today we're not jeopardizing these zonings that are currently being proposed within this project

that is correct and as as zonings come in within this area we will make sure that they're well we can't really force it but we strongly suggest that they privately need restrict the property so that they cannot put multi-family in the industrial or commercial or mixed-use areas if for some reason somebody refused to privately restrict it I would make staff put some disclosure in the agenda memos saying that they refused to do it so the board was fully aware that they were refusing to do it well so far everybody so far every project that's come in with commercial mixed use or industrial vocal Act was adopted they voluntarily have agreed to this condition so we're making a bet by voting on this today versus having that commitment before this vote you don't have that commitment now the problem is you can't we can't impose it so and they can't and they can't use it because this is a comp plan Amendment they'd have to have the zoning in place to be able to to do that okay in addition just in this particular Prince of plan Amendment case is the county initiated so it's been County LED and brought to this point I do also want to add um with this plan Amendment although it is going to PD we do have some Provisions in place that kind of allows for whoever is a current zoning District now that it's not going to impact them but if there is any change proposed they will have to amend to an mpud okay all right any other questions for Steph all right and we do have one person sent for public comment yes we do Mr chair Herbert Keith Mr heap if you would just state your name and address for the record and then you can start Herbert 2131 old gun Highway in Odessa I'm sure you're all familiar with me Commissioners car key knows meeting at the school you said well you've had your little bit of Paradise in Odessa well you're right we had it it's gone but anyway I will not land on corner of Gunn Highway and Blissfield Road old gun I always make it get it right there and my land goes clear down to Interlaken I got a Pasco County School bus garage on one Western corner and Lynn Sable has 10 acres on my west side also what I was concerned about on one of these maps that conceptual plans is showing two roads they want to put in and if they put them in they're both going through my land now if I'm still there is that I mean it's going to be a problem what I'm trying to say is are they going to wait and do this after the land is developed or sold or that's one of the problems and then I've had quite a few people contact me naturally having that corner and they think this dumb old guy doesn't know any different but what's going on in the neighborhood but anyway how am I going to figure out does Pasco County want to help find a good developer and put in there

but you won't believe I bet you I've got a hundred letters phone calls people contacting me matter of fact I've had to block some of them one guy called me eight times in one day his wife perked his her Mercedes over there on old gun Highway and she would get out and walk up and down the road taking pictures this went on for about three months until I blocked their phones and I guess they decided I didn't want to sell but anyway this is some of the questions I own on that corner I guess I'm sort of tying everything up in the Odessa Town Center you know I want to know is I would sell as you all know I lost my wife March 6 and and I'm doing this alone now and I know you all know me and I just want to know are you going to run me out of there um so Mr Starkey yeah we we've tried to explain this at the Planning Commission and at our meeting before but maybe I would well we haven't I'm not sure who is the right person to speak to outside Mr kambala who who so so we can explain to him how it works someone from planning could probably handle that can but we have a new okay maybe sure if you could maybe maybe wait to the end of this meeting and then we'll get you with a staff person yeah let's wait till this is over but just hang in there No One's Gonna Run you off okay and no one's going to put a road over your property that that isn't how it works but um we will um maybe I'll just bring you into my office and we'll sit down with staff and we'll help explain to you what it is because I know there have been people circling all around here um who have been um trying to take advantage of some people there and you know what we did in doing this was increase all their property values but um not everyone understands how development works it's complicated especially in this kind of change of plan so why don't I get you into my office and we'll work we'll help you I appreciate it just if I get somebody just talk to me honestly right and quit trying to I can't say all those words in here anyway bamboozle because yeah and I was thinking you know we got that big tower up there on the corner got a lot of vultures on it well we got a lot of vultures circling my property yes certainly and trying to get a hold of it you sent um us pictures of the um storage facility going up right across from you yeah so um I went and looked at it and the fence was improperly placed and um is the fence down or has it been moved no they told they took fence I tell you they originally had a gate there

well seems like one night they mysteriously disappeared so they put a fence back up and anyway they've taken the fence down they're running concrete trucks on Monmouth Avenue they're running construction trucks all the construction trade goes in and out and I talked to Mark Blanton uh about it and he says well we're Pasco County says we're going to have to fix that road up to where they have the fence tore down and there was some survey Stakes up but nobody's done a thing so what so what's going on what's going on there is you know that we put in this rule that if you're putting in a storage facility you have to have the retail in front and and they did that there's I don't know if the Dunkin Donuts or something up in the front in a cookie store and then now the storage facility is going in in the back but um they put the fence in incorrectly and this is something that we're I'm going to talk about in commissioner's items and they put it on the property line so there was no Landscaping that and they have to buffer um that fence from the residential all around it and so hopefully we will get someone to make sure they're doing that because I thought we didn't Katie so so we'll follow up so let me let me so when you get to your conversation with him again yeah he's waiting back there my assistant's waiting in the back to talk to you you're also aware that on the west side of that property is a 50-foot County right-of-way and he doesn't own that so they're not allowed to use that I see they're bulldozing in there maybe made arrangements with the county so if I could let me end this conversation between the two of you okay thank you take care of it afterwards okay all right and her assistant's right in the back okay well if they're taking out the trees on the county right away I'm not going to be happy because it's all full of oak trees okay thank you okay is there any anyone else like to speak to this item I have no one else signed up for this item and no one I think we should make the attorney who worked very hard on this come up since he's retiring okay well I want to thank Joel too on his own he came to um some of the community meetings and and really tried to help explain how the property rights works and the development works so that people understood it wasn't a taking of anything but really at the end it was increasing their property values and and um adding taking out uncertainty to what uses could be and and so therefore adding value am I saying that right Joel so do we have a motion I move second roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District Four commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano aye

moved item p-46 Mr Wayman do you want to vote on that say aye YouTube we've made the emotion it's been approved we've got full vote so far okay okay item p-46 and p-46 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on May 3rd 2023 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings chairman and p-46 is an ordinance amending the Paso County comprehensive plan providing for a small-scale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map 2-15 and Sheet 12 from res 3 residential three dwelling units per growth taker to Il industrial Light on approximately 11.52 Acres of real property located on North side of State Route 52 approximately 0.15 Mile East of giddens Road and a map Amendment to the Future land use map 2-9 amending sub-area map 2-952 Palm materials and it covered some plantex amendment to sub-area policy flu 7.152 Paul materials and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repeatedly observability in an effective date this comes with the recommendation approval we have staff to make a presentation if desired um you need a presentation no I just have a question okay question of the applicant I don't have any public comments have signed up for this uh let me just see if there's any public comment is there any public comments item p-46 Mr chair there's no one on WebEx and no one's signed up in okay on a form the applicant Mr chair Mr Starkey hey um my question is and I know it's not on this property but I just want to make sure they know that we're not going to have any um chain link fences running 52. I think there's an mpud condition that prohibits that because there's one there now but I assume they're going to be taking it out right that the chain link fence that there will be that's supposed to be there and it's site plan approved is in the back and that's supposed to be fencing off the heavy industrial area from the front but over you know when we start developing the frontage that's retail development and it's interesting just this morning we had a conference call about some of their uses on the site and I was very clear to say don't forget your marketing the front stuff for typical retail uses you cannot put too heavy of industrial stuff even though I one's allowed on the front partial because we'll never get the retail users in there you know we want them both it's intended to have one row of retail and then IL I mean I won stuff behind that well I mean true simulation is Ayala metler Toledo's IL and I'd love to have that on the front we would too we would too but I'm just saying we have a broker that's you know we've got a hard corner with a signal there so we're marketing some of the upfront stuff for retail but yes I understood okay thanks hang on commissioner waitman you know the question oh yes how did I get so pretty yeah yeah happy anniversary thank you so it's exciting to see we go from

residential to uh light industrial once again can we condition this thing yeah the zoning already has a deed restriction that's there's a companion zoning that that has that with them so it won't be coming it will not be Paul Paul's doing this to have industrial good that's what we need I didn't ask you thank you okay all right approval second okay can I say something under discussion um can cement mixing go in light industrial so do we have any place anywhere up there where cement mixing does not go in IL is typically yeah enclosed spaces IH all right just I know that I've been contacted by people trying to find a site for heavy and we need to have heavy some places as well because otherwise they're going to be driving from State Road 54 52 and Aaron all the way up to the corners of the county commissioner just you know there's a pending land use Amendment near the lime rock mines that is planned for having oh there is one but I I would tell the board and it's funny we've got one of my consultant friends who's here who comes from that business and we've spent a lot of time in the last three years trying to find any site in the northern third of the county and we're having a major problem with several concrete companies they can only keep the the stuff spinning in the back of the truck I think for 50 minutes 5-0 and we're going to have to find several other sites over time I don't know where the right side is and I know the board doesn't like to designate sites for heavy industrial but whether we do them as mpuds with a PD or whatever but this is a serious issue the board's going to confront for some period that's why I'm bringing it up I mean I literally did Thomas Lang is here and he's probably yeah that's 500 hours looking at this it's driving us insane Obama says who I talk to Joe's saying he may have one all right well you probably should let Miss wilheit speak because she's got one there's one in the pipeline oh everyone's racing there all right so just a close discussion called the roll district one commissioner Oakley all right District Two commissioner Weightman aye District three commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano hi who passes 5-0 item P-47 e47 was published in the Tampa Times on May 3rd 2023. Mr chairman 19 P-47 is an ordinance amending the Paso County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map 2-15 and sheet03 from Roi retail office residential to Il industrial Light on approximately 10 acres of real property located on New York Avenue and providing traditional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for

repealer severability and an effective date this comes to you with a continuance request to a date uncertain okay and thank you for this Terry uh this is the one that has the the site near Hudson Waterworks correct yes so they agreed to continue which I'm very happy about so we'll go from there um move to continue second uh do I need a to a date uncertain two days uncertain okay so a motion to continue with date uncertain call the roll please district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman aye District three commissioner Starkey aye District Four commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano aye motion professors 5-0 now proceed to the public hearings will the County Attorney please review the procedures for rezoning be happy to Mr chairman there are two resounding agendas regular and consent staff will present each application of the board of County Commissioners if staff for Planning Commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given five or three the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning May at this time request that the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's Land Development code okay Madam clerk would you like to swear them in yes Mr steinsteiner if you are here to speak on any of the items that are in that are to come if you could stand if you're able to and raise your right hands I will go ahead and square you in all right do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God thank you maybe seated okay thank you today we have five public hearings on consent agenda and one item that is continuance we'll start with p48 to continuance item p-48 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on May 3rd 2023.

good afternoon Mr chair Commissioners Denise Hernandez item p-48 is PDD 237701 it's a zoning Amendment for dignity funeral services and Michaels and Lundquist and the requested to continue the item to a date uncertain motion a move second district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman aye District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano hi Mr chairman can we move to item p-53 please p-53 as well okay d-53 item p-53 was published in Tampa Times on June 7th 2023 and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings p53 is PDD 230238 it's CPA 2209 Greenfield Delaware web River Reserve PD the applicant has requested a continuance to the August 22nd 2023 border County Commissioners meeting at 1 30 in New Port Richey very good Mr chairman this was shown as a action item for the board if there's anybody in the audience that cannot make the continuance date and would like to speak today they may but if they speak today they will lose their opportunity to do so on August 22nd okay is there anyone in the audience that did want to speak to P item p-53 they can't make it okay I'm sure there's no one on WebEx for this item either oh can I see the applicants you may want to add something Barbara Wilhite 6327 Grand Boulevard New Port Richey 34652 for the applicant just an idea because you have no meeting in July a continuance here today is a two-month continuous to this project we have an issue that we're working out with with the chairman um and so we wanted to see if it was possible to continue this and I didn't even get a chance to talk to staff which is not very professional I apologize for that a month to the July 11th we are pretty close to US 41 where the project is you'll be obviously got your discretion of the board but and if we weren't ready by the 11th we could move it again until August so that's the request it's the pleasure of the board but I want to make the request it would really help the project so let me say this the um the project itself the Dell Webb part is going to be a phenomenal thing I was concerned about some of the other things coming in with it that was addressed and we've heard many people from Shady Hills talk about what's going on that whole area with all the other stuff that would be approved scared me uh I brought it to Robert's attention first time we had a chance to meet with us yesterday and she was good to talk with uh Del Webb's folks as well as the owners of the property they're trying to work out some things they've got some ideas but again we didn't have a chance to talk of it I don't mind continuing to July 11th we're going to let the citizens know right away so they can make it it's not that much further of a drive but I think it's I want to try to work with them so we can make this a

great project okay I have good projects yeah although the project is going to be phenomenal no question here it's just all the other things I want to deal with and I pay a motion to move to uh I will re-notic July 11th thank you and the notice is okay I'll re-notice make sure okay okay all right so the motion would be to continue it till July 11th at 1 30 you're sitting there after the same may be heard right okay have a motion of a second well second okay thank you and roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman aye District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford hi District Five chairman Mariano hi professors 5-0 thank you commissioner Mariano by chance can we move back to can we move to item C6 from your morning session which was moved to the afternoon session yes let's go to C6 thank you so much item C6 was published in Tampa Bay Times on June 7 2023 item c6's PDD 230423 it's a development of regional impact rescission for the Sugar Creek dri development of regional impact John azuki it's a request to rescind the Sugar Creek dri number 38 and it's generally located on the north of State Road 52 and east of Colony Road and we ask that you approve the rescission any discussion from the board okay as a public hearing I'll ask for public comment okay anyone from the public want to speak to item C6 Mr chair I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for this item okay you have a motion for the second and roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District 2 commissioner Weightman aye District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano aye motion passes 5-0 and I'll go back to the consent agenda yes q49 thank you item p-49 was published in Tampa Times on April 19 2023 and May 10 2023. d49 is PDD 230360 it is a development agreement for aprily D.A connected City it's for King like Partners LP for development agreement for the aprily mpud to design permit and construct roadway Improvement and improvements in exchange for transportation development free fee credits I do want to read on to the record and this has been provided to the clerk's office that their exporting Communications with commissioner Starkey with the applicant and commissioner Starkey the applicant and commissioner Mariano the applicant and commissioner Weightman and the applicant and commissioner Oakley so we're asking that the BCC approved the D.A and this went to the local planning Agency on May 4th of 2023 who founded consistent with a comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board is there anyone here to speak in opposition to this item p-49 seeing none leave it on consent Mr chair

there's no one on WebEx for this item okay item p50 do we have proof um p50 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on May 24 2023. item p50 I believe that there is someone here to speak on the item but I will read the item into record and you can call um it's PDD 237647s for sun West Park and PUD master plan unit development Pasco County is the applicant it's a petition to rezone from AC agricultural District to mpud master plan unit development District to allow for the residential development for residential for the development of a 200 room hotel and 210 000 square feet of non-residential uses uh that parcel is located west of US 19 at the southwest corner of Old Dixie Highway and Racetrack Road on approximately 158 Acres comes through with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet from both the planning and development department and the Planning Commission okay thank you is there anyone in the audience to speak in opposition to item p50 did you have one person signed up for item p50 I don't know if they're here to speak an opposition though Vern Phelps so we'll we'll pull it off consent we'll bring it back and you'll have a chance to ask so we'll pull item p50 off consent item P51 the first 2023 Justin Grant director of public Universe infrastructure fiscal and business administration I item P51 is a resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida designated an area commonly known as Bear Creek Town Homes as a street light service area for street light improvements and the levy assessments against the property benefiting by the street lighting improvements in accordance with pasco's county code of ordinances chapter 94 article 3 sections 94 through 46 and through 94-56. we have presentation prepared if there's public comment okay we'll just see you it's on consenso is anyone here to speak in opposition of P-51 I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for item P-51 we'll leave it on consent item p52 do we have proof yes item p-52 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on May 2nd May 21st 2023. the p52 is a resolution by the board County commissioners of Pasco County Florida authorizing an upgrade to Street lending improvements and assessment rate increase for the Lakeside street light service area in accordance with Pasco County code of ordinances chapter 94 Article 2 sections 94-46 through 94-56 is there anyone in the audience here to speak against item p-52 anyone on WebEx no one's on WebEx and I have no one signed up either okay we've been on consent that concludes consent agenda I have a motion move approval second all in favor say aye aye aye roll call I'm sorry

district one commissioner Oakley aye District 2 commissioner Weightman aye District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano aye Mr pastors 5-0 let's go back to item p50 sir if you want to approach and your name and address for the record and you've been sworn I live at 8915 Phelps Road in Hudson uh it is adjacent to Sunwest Pasco County street signs the green signs with the white lettering that's a county maintained Road correct the green background Greenback yes yeah now the white background with the green lettering private okay non-county non-county maintained yes now Phelps Road comes off in 19. to a subdivision called Mike sugar Estates there's 22 lots and there are 17 residences right now and we're concerned about the traffic that could be brought into that area Sunwest park has already brought a lot of traffic down our street now when Gary Grubbs leased that property from Billy hunt he paved the last section of Phelps Road 219. Racetrack Road basically dead end right at Phelps and then you had to make a left turn to go to 19. he paved it which made us happy and curved it into the mines to where the trucks could come out easily we're still getting a lot of traffic we never heard anything from the county about why they're using a private road for traffic I complained about it I even come down talk to code enforcement rodent Bridge Pasco County put a stop sign where we come out coming to 19. so we have to stop because Racetrack Road comes into it we don't have to stop coming in it creates a traffic problem where someone's going to get hit should have been a three-way stop I suggested that but I guess beings it's a park but it's still a private road and people in our neighborhood were concerned about the traffic and we just want to know what the situation is going to be with Ingress and egress and what we can do to try to solve that issue we have too many cars coming into our neighborhood now we have it posted speed limit signs no trespassing dead industry Private Road okay and we're just concerned about it we want to try to work something out and get something done with okay we're good I'm happy to meet with you um in the neighborhood as the development would come forward we're actually trying to work to actually do something to actually make that road all

race track All County maintained input in the public public domain they haven't come forward with the development one of the things is out front we plan to put an LED sign out front um so we know more traffic's going to come but we'd happy to happy to work with you to try to work this out yeah but it's still not going to keep them from they're still coming yeah nosy yeah so I can I can work with you to try to find out what we can do okay all right thank you all right thanks anyone else here to speak to item number C50 p 50 I'm sorry p50 anyone online WebEx no one on WebEx anyone else has signed up okay move approval about a second second and just under discussion Amy thank you very much for you and your team to put this together I know Christine with parks and everybody else was all working on it for a long time and it's going to create a great opportunity as the gentleman was in our Citizens Academy actually mentioned some great things are happening so thank you for getting it done and ask a question on that I mean I'll vote approval but I have a question is the road that we're all using to get to the park public or private private what that's interesting okay all right roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner wheatman aye District three commissioner Starkey aye District Four commissioner Bradford hi District Five chairman Mariano hi motion passes 5-0 item p-54 item p-54 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on March 1st 2023 May 3rd 2023 and June 7th 2023. okay so on this item this was continued to this date we had closed public comment uh and we had a request in for the applicant to try to get the land to connect down to the South and they have done that at this point Mr County attorney do we have to have public comment again or should we just hear from the applicant at this point you've closed public comment and the app and the applicant it has addressed or staff and the applicant I'm are coming back with something to address your concerns so it it would be as if you would you had added another stipulation during that hearing in April okay no you do not NEC you can take public comment but you do not need to take public so let's hear from staff and we'll hear from the applicant sure um group planning I'll be presenting palmwind and Beauty it's going to be be the 7633 so the proposal is going to be a zoning Amendment responding from AAR AC which is going to be Agricultural and agricultural residential to an mpud master plan unit development allowing a maximum of 319 um so you've done the presentation in April you really only need to tell the board what's chained okay perfect so this is a context map as you can see

there's going to be two access points um going to be interconnected to Hudson Avenue 3 North and then go into this uh previously there was no interconnection only and emergency access now you're going to see one interconnection to Fairwinds Road and also the emergency access as to East and West you're going to sweet you're going to see sorry the interconnections and you're going to see Colony Road going through the borderline of the west side of the property um you're going to see also like dots that's going to be the vision Road Colony Road it's going to be surrounding the Wetland that you can see in the picture and then Fairwinds road is going to be interconnecting to Colony Road and then coloring road is going to be interconnecting to um I believe it's going to be box Drive Foxfire Drive later to Peace Tree and then Peachtree is also going to interconnect to Hudson Avenue which is going to address the concerns previously wrote by the board in April the other the major connection though that the board was concerned was the north south to Fairwinds Drive yeah can you address that yeah it's going to be um right over here and then right next to this interconnection you're going to see the previously emergency access being proposed by the applicant so what would that what would that connection look like two lane two lanes sidewalk Trail Golf Cart Trail what so the interconnection question here is going to be a functional access for the whole property so basically everything is going to come from Hudson Avenue all the way south of Fairwinds Road and then you're going to have from west to east also roads are going to be interconnected we know all that all we continued it for was to actually look at the connection to the South what's Mr have you come forward uh Clark hobby hobby and hobby PA 109 North Brush Street Tampa Florida Vince Warren it's two 11 foot travel Lanes with five foot sidewalks on either side so that's the Foley the full access you requested we went out and it took us about two months to get under contract with a property owner to the South there's a new condition and changes to the mpud master plan that required that full connection now um so the emergency exit I'm not sure you need that I left that on it we probably we may not even build it we just left it as is because we had already gone under contract for that property so but you can use it for something else for the neighborhood we might have another emergency access there we're not sure what we'll do with it well if if the other one just has five foot sidewalks you could if you had seen the site I'm not sure that's be a good idea okay but we'll see we're gonna evaluate that later okay I just don't think they there shouldn't be a requirement to have that emergency

it's up to them but they that requirement shouldn't be there if they have the other ones I understand yeah there's again there's no need for it so if you don't want to do it as far as I'm concerned as well it doesn't need to be done if you need to change that we can but I would like to see as we talked about with the Gulf Coast Community I mean there may be some golfers there I would like to see at least on one side at least an eight foot path where a car can drive down I don't think we can meet the code requirements with this spacing I mean we have agreed with staff that this is the cross section we don't have any more area to do that okay if you don't have the room don't have the room but if you can if you can make it happen like that and it's I it's going to cost us in excess of five hundred thousand dollars to provide this interconnect just so the board knows and we already met the code may I ask another question commissioner I'm sorry it's been a while since I met with you guys so um I don't remember what the plan is for this development it's it's single family detached 40 foot Lots I think it has some but I mean they're not a large percentage of 40s in there and did we agree to architectural restrictions yes I had the stuff from last year it's got two uh cross interconnections in addition to this one with our neighbors no no I'm concerned about the aesthetic okay yeah we have this we added the architectural stuff and Landscape Yes trees yeah everybody the only the only issue I think the County Attorney would agree the only issue before was you all wanted this full access to Fairwinds we spent a lot of time and effort and we've provided it and I think it's a big plus I mean we work really hard on the vision road which may never get built uh to what may happen it's going to have to happen a different way but at least this actually does take stress off uh that interconnection is big especially if someone plays golf that took it out there now they can they can go straight down they could think they could work their way on the pathway just even the road which will be I'm sure a little little thing I'm thankful Taylor Martin went out and did this to get it done and thank you for your cooperation with it too thank you appreciative to approve get a motion like a second yeah roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman District three commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford uh District Five chairman Mariano hi item number p55 item p55 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on May 3rd 2023. oh and by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings sorry about that are we working yes all right Amy Hyler uh long range planner excuse me Amy toll uh long read planning so the item before you is actually the companion zoning Amendment uh to the Odessa Town Center the proposed rezoning petition is in the name of guyetto mpud Master Plan unit

development it is a rezoning from C2 General commercial and AR agricultural residential to MPD master plan unit development located generally at the southwest corner of State Road 54 and Gunn Highway The Proposal is a mixed-use product or project proposing approximately 12 000 square feet of commercial retail and 320 multi-family units the 12 000 square feet of commercial retail is intended to be vertically integrated located along State Road 54. subject properties located in the South market area in urban service area here's a general context map just to show you where the project is located as you can see to the north that's going to be your Starkey Ranch and to the Southwest you have Trinity communities Ashley Lakes Community to the east Southeast of Gunn Highway along State Road 54. there is a Odessa Elementary School to the south in proximity as well as the Pasco County bus depot which abuts the property to the South along Interlaken here's your location map for the proposed project area subject site the map showing your current zoning District and your future land use as we know currently future the future land use was Aurora and res 6 or res9 excuse me we have now approved this to PD I went ahead and added a Trails map as well I think it's important to highlight this as part of the guyato plan currently we have as you see the green dashed area the galletto developers agreed to ensure that enhanced connectivity Trail and pedestrian connectivity occur within the guyoto site as it is the first MPD master plan unit development District to come into the Odessa Town Center PD plan development so as you can see along the western edge the applicant has agreed to construct a multi-use path along the western edge extending through the boundary as well as past their boundary they have agreed to complete that connection to the Interlaken or to Interlaken road so there will be a trail connection from Interlaken All the Way North to State Road 54. their concept plan you will see on a separate Slide the the conceptual plan will have the mixed juice vertically integrated retail along State Road 54 so the intent is to ensure that users who use Interlaken also have sufficient connectivity to that retail component of the site Additionally you will see the trail going through the Blue Area being the guyetto project that trail is also will be developed to the project edge with the intent to be constructed all the way to old gun Highway North along gold hunt old gun Highway and then the Lowe's project will complete that connection to gun n54 overall completing the connection to the orange belt Trail and the Pasco County trail system as well so this is the master plan that accompanies the uh mpud conditions of approval the red area is highlighting where your mixed use will be located

that's where your 12 000 square feet will be vertically integrated the Brown is going to be your multi-family where the 320 units are going to be located there's also going to be sufficient park space and open space in this area and then your open space and Wetland area to the South here is their conceptual plan that they provided alongside the MPD as you can see a as you can see to the north this area is going to be where you're vertically integrated mixed juice area is going to be 12 000 square feet vertically integrated heading to the South as you can see there is a series of linear parks and Open Spaces to an overall amenity that will also serve the community as well that's where your multi-family components are going to be located as well there are Trails as you can see along the western edge that's where your Trail is going to meander as well as through the center of the project so the applicant is requesting two variations from the code with this master plan you development the two variations being LDC section 905.1 e neighborhood parks they're requesting a reduction in neighborhood parks because this is a multi-family product and they are uh ensuring that sufficient open space and park facilities are accommodated within the galletto project to uphold the intent of the code parks and recs we worked with Park and Recs natural resources on this project and or on this variation and it is supported by Parks as well as PDD because what they're proposing still aligns with the intent of the code since the code primarily speaks to open spaces for single-family type developments so this is a multi-family filament um as well as LDC section 402.5 D the reason why we added this to the variation request the code specifically requires a condition or a variation or I'm sorry a use permit excuse me a use permit for those areas or those sites that may uh sell alcohol or whatnot adjacent to schools daycares and public facilities such as that within a thousand foot buffer although the site is not within or although this Project's not within a thousand foot buffer we went ahead and approved or supported this variation request because there are uh there is a daycare to the north a school to the South and a church to the West which is approximately 1500 so with that being said we recognize shifts can occur in the future so we went ahead and authorized the variation from this to allow for the alcoholic beverages to occur within this area and with that we recommend approval to the approval of the proposed rezoning with conditions and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have okay thank you commissioner well um is the applicant going to show any of their beautiful pictures no from last time oh really you don't have any pictures of what it looks like he's retired remember

[Laughter] I had to cancel my tea time to get here oh um for the record Joel 2 land use consultant for the applicant Palm Harbor Florida um we do have we do have them if you'd like to see them I have been sworn we do have them seriously if you would like to see them yeah and I'll I'll have MS barrero get those ready to tee up I'll do a brief intro and then she can she can show those to you um while Christy's getting that ready I have the privilege representing Altus Cardinal living they are a high quality mixed-use developer based in Miami they have an exciting downtown St Petersburg project underway now actually in construction as part of the downtown St Pete mixed use program this will be their first Venture into Pasco County they've gotten to know you for two years now working on this project but it's been a good two years and I did not speak on the planned Amendment but just basically with respect to that it's really admirable that the county staff and commissioner Starkey were able to work through a donut hole that as you guys know this is really at Maine and Maine in Pasco County giving us positional State Road 54 across the Starkey Ranch everything around it essentially is developed and the problem of course was over 20 landowners and trying to figure out a way to have a cohesive plan of development for example and this is why the guyato parcel became so important my clients have it under contract to close immediately upon zoning approval but the situation there is the front of that parcel already has C2 strip commercial zoning so the front was at risk of being developed into traditional out parcels and Taco Bell with uses that you would rather not have there so the advantage is we have a mixed use developer who has committed and in fact it's mandatory in these zoning conditions you'll see that doing vertical mixed use on the Frontage buildings is actually mandatory the the entire first floor of both buildings which is why it's 12 000 square feet that is the building footprint that all has to be retailer office uses with the apartments above it so we convert what could have been traditional 54 strip retail Frontage into quality mixed-use entry and then we put the multi-family units behind it so that's really important the other point is we obviously are consistent as Christie's going to show you we are in what is now called a mixed youth residential Village we are the westernmost of those three villages that Ms heiler explained are in the Odessa town center and so this will kind of be the Catalyst we're hoping it's also important because our parcel controls what likely is going to be the only full access off State Road 54. into any of Odessa Town Center that being that those fdot improvements are already there the only full median cut is the one into our property and we've already had Steve Henry work with Dot and Mr carbella's office has supported

that to ensure that we keep that median opening as a full median opening now our project is relatively small it will not trigger signal warrants by itself but undoubtedly Odessa Town Center ultimately will trigger those as other Parcels come in so we've agreed that if and when the fdot signal warrants are met so that it can be signalized we're obligated in our conditions to contribute our proportionate share for that signalization in the meantime at commissioner starkey's request because we know how much she loves trails we did agree to not only build the full and this is a full 16 foot multi-purpose Trail this is the Big Kahuna we agreed to build that not only along our entire West boundary from 54 South but as Ms Haller said we also have now agreed to extend it off-site all the way to Interlaken which is critical because then it connects to the sidewalk to the existing Elementary School and ultimately to the main trail that comes up through Trinity communities just west of us we're also building our portion of the East-West segment of the trail that then will continue down uh Blissfield so that's the background on it these two variations I just want to point out they have to be written up and approved as variations but as you probably recognize these both have become standard in in any multi-family project parks and natural resources always support and agree with the 10 percent Park Factor as a standard variation and also the real reason in my mind for the alcoholic beverage waiver on the thousand foot setback isn't really so much the existing uses what we've learned is anytime you approve a mixed-use community you buy definition of introducing mixed uses and Hospitality uses in restaurants and craft breweries and wine bars in the middle of a mixed juice project we may very well have a daycare in our own project that you know would then within technique could be a complex so we've learned it's smart to get those approvals in advance and then the other people coming and know that it's already there last comment before I asked Christy if she can go through the concept plan the last comment is getting to commissioner weightman's comment that I overheard earlier I wasn't here this morning but I think I got the gist of what the issue is would you like a recap no I I I think I understand it and I think that Mr Goldstein has taken care of that in our impudy conditions if you look at condition number 50 he in fact did draft and my clients have voluntarily agreed to his condition that makes it very clear that they cannot that they waive any right for any imposition of the preemption from the state statute and we understand we're asking to be approved as vertical mixed use they're going to build vertical mixed use and they understand the zoning is conditioned upon that and the only people that can ever change that zone and condition are the five of you on the board so you have yourself to blame if that ever gets

changed not us so that's all I have to say and I think Christian barrero can quickly run through you the concept plan and I assume you do have a few of the samples uh of their products thank you good afternoon Christie Barrera with high design I have been sworn so we have a couple of Graphics to share and I believe that we've shared these with you all when we've met individually in the past but just want to kind of go over the site a little in a little bit more detail so as Amy mentioned the first two buildings that are going to be along State Road 52 the bottom floor 54 the bottom floor is going to be retail uses and then above that will be the apartment uses um I'm not sure the order of these so what you're looking at here is between two of the buildings we showed those linear parks and that walking space so that pedestrian area the plan is to have a little bit different pavement to again show you know where the pedestrians should be going where the car should be slowing down we'll also have Landscaping so this is showing that entrance as well so this one really shows um in between those two first buildings on 54. we'd like to have a plaza there where we can have some outdoor seating depending on what sort of retail we'll go there but we definitely want that to be an activated area for the residents as well as the patrons of those retail uses and can I stop you there for one second and commissioner Weightman I do this I'm doing this with uh almost everyone who comes into my office with something like this I'd say you need to build a place where I can go hang out on a Saturday night not you know me or someone in the community because we're not building places like that I mean and so this is uh this you know makes for a wonderful little Hangouts but so I think it'll be very successful it's hard to codify that isn't it yeah it is difficult it is and so this is a different angle of those front buildings again you can see The Umbrellas with outdoor seating the larger windows for the retail areas with the residential above that and so those are the quick Graphics I think they were in a little bit of reverse order so this would be the entrance to the community kind of looking South down that um linear park space this would be the next area between buildings so these buildings you can see would just be residential that'd be the next group behind the first set and then you can see as you're looking down the street the buildings at the edge of the project and that will be where the clubhouse is proposed with the pool and the amenities behind that as well as the large lake and the Very southern part of the property so just a nice walkway between the project so yeah the client is very excited about constructing in Pasco County this is the first one in the county so they're eager to get started and so um one of the things that the client did was pulled the buildings up to the internal road

which kind of gives that road some I don't know um sense of place I guess and and because that is the main road into the development and the idea behind all of this when we're done with it because there's other areas that are zoned multi-family but not to this intensity there won't be any really single family homes in here most likely it's going to be commercial a little industrial and multi-family is it it's like its own village it was kind of where we were going with it all so excited about the opportunities and we have a very good quality developer here who was very patient and I want to thank Anthony galleto too for uh hanging in there my neighbor former neighbor across the street from our branch office so I do so these renderings like legitimately what we're going to be seeing when this is built yes these will be very close like stop not necessarily color but like what we're what we're seeing yeah so they have developed this product in other places not obviously not Pasco County but this will be very similar to what you see my next thank you my next question the 12 000 square feet is it 12 000 square feet a combination of living space and Commercial Spate or is the 12 000 square feet truly commercial space it will exactly how much approximately six thousand and six thousand each building on the bottom floor yeah okay and then uh my final comment Mr two and I talked about this on a different project the reduction the reduction of I'm always kind of hesitant on the reduction of park space I know Park says yes can you please help me understand what what what's the trade-off again for reducing the green space in the park space for well what I I don't I'm not sure it's accurate to see it's a trade-off and let me let me try to get the background on this and I think Mr Peter so back me up to my knowledge in the last three years at a minimum if not longer every multi-family project that this board has approved has approved multi-family parking at a ratio of 1.9 spaces per unit even though your code on its face requires more we've discussed for three years simply doing a code Amendment to change the code requirement to 1.9 so that you don't approve or have to prove what appears to be a variation in every case but to my knowledge there has not been a single project approved at anything less I'm sorry more than 1.9 spaces now now with that said I think what your natural parks and natural resource people will tell you because they support every one of these and have supported all of these and in fact it was a standard that they agreed made sense they'll tell you that they think in in most cases that we're over parking a lot of things in the county and you need adequate parking but you don't need to

over Park them uh and and they're satisfied that that this works on parking and the same thing's true of parks in a multi-family setting because when you have these projects you're building a Lifestyle Center most of them have a workouts fitness center they have a pool they have game rooms they have all these other amenities and so I think the logic is if 10 percent of the land the developable land is committed to traditional Park that in the multi-family setting setting aside 10 percent of your land for Park and having these other amenities is simply more than adequate I can't speak for them either Mr pitos or Parks can but we're simply applying the standard that the county has set over the last three to four years to my knowledge and we're doing exactly what's been done on every other project you know if that's something that you're not comfortable with then maybe you need to address that standard if you will with Parks but I think they believe it's more than adequate and when you see the new projects coming online it certainly appears to be more than adequate with the ones that are being built yeah because this has this also has parking for the retail um so it has it had didn't you see it has a lot of parking I actually texted Terry that's a lot of parking um so I'm very comfortable with the parking um and on the park thing too this this project in particular is going to look like there's plenty because you're going to have all these esplanets when you look at that concept plant as Christie said that whole main drive going uh north to south through the entire project that whole thing is going to be basically walking Esplanade with sitting areas and gathering places this place is kind of it's it's almost going to look like everything outside the buildings is Park and Gathering area yeah uh although technically under your code a lot of that doesn't even count toward the 10 percent we have to have 10 percent of actual Park area just um well sorry commission thank you so uh I just we have a lot of multi-family in the county and everyone says it's Unique so I'm really hopeful here that what we're seeing and concept in the business attribute to it to be complementary to everything that's been built to the north on Starkey Ranch that had just not be another generic style multi-family that's why we slowed them down so that's this is yeah it's it's it's that's the point I'm getting at here is I'm very hopeful is what we're being told is what we're actually going to get and give a business owner an entrepreneur an opportunity to capture the customer base it's now in this area and to build something something great and live a good life here in Pasco County so thank you thank you Mr two and commissioner Starkey I want to give you credit for doing the public hearings the way you did because this was a long process but the results are phenomenal and there's

and the planning staff was wonderful you know the as the attorney said um Mr caeda was ready to have Kentucky Fried Chicken and a few other people in strip you know out Parcels across the front which sadly's I think was going to happen over there by the lows I I wish we'd got a hold of the Lowe's property you know we tried to start this a couple years ago but you know how busy our planning staff is so um the lows kind of got away from us where the flea market was but I'm very grateful that we're having such a better product than what our code currently allows right now so Terry just to follow up on the parking variation comments we usually will vary the parking based on studies and study after study has indicated that 1.9 is more than adequate for multi-family developments in fact we'll ask for studies that can beat 1.9 if they want to go lower than that we've seen some projects go as low as 1.7 the other thing that just keep in mind with multi-family projects is that depending on the bedroom mix that those projects have whether they're two bedroom and three bedroom the quantities there's a constant turn of people that's taking place who have different uh vehicular Transportation needs which means that their parking lots are fluctuating constantly they're never really filling up there's always large areas of parking on a multi-family development site that sort of remains quote unparked but for the most part you don't really see them under parked all right this is a public hearing anyone here to speak to item p55 Mr chair we do have Mr Herbert Heap has signed up for the record he has passed okay the noise on WebEx or online no one is on WebEx okay we'll close public comments to the board move to approve second and roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford District 5 chairman Mariano hi motion passes 4-0 yay thank you thank you very much for your patience guys item p-56 item p-56 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on May 24 2023 good afternoon Commissioners is called the public works um this is the pivas Paving assessment none at balaram assessments for the west side only we had five projects of four to five sorry 45 streets 8.47 miles we sent out four 947 notification letters and we had four written objections in terms of objections we got two from Driftwood Villages and um there were Joan Alves Noel Rodriguez we also got two from Trinity Oaks Thousand Oaks Maria Bullock and John hanski and I'm asking for a motion to receive and file these objections [Music]

district one commissioner Oakley all right District Two commissioner wheatman District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford I District 5 chairman Mariano hi and this is my way of summer for both the east side and the west side I'm going to be taking the east side to the board next month there will be a total of eight projects businessman project 53 year olds 9.62 miles and in terms of the assessment it's just over 1.322 million dollars in terms of what would be collected during the tax year it will be 311 952 0.67 cents and in total we um with the middle note from 1082 letters um staff is asking for approval for the West Side tax roll okay this is public hearing anyone who want to address staff okay public hearing anyone in the audience like to speak to item p 56. you know the WebEx are online I have no one on WebEx for this item okay no approval have a motion um second but did he say it was only for 41 94 . so well well I'm presenting today is for the west side you know projects on the west side of US-41 next month um not literally on along the west side of US 41 are you saying the West Side the county yeah all right okay well okay I'm good all right so before I call the roll there's no one from the audience want to speak to this item I see a lot of people in the audience Mr chair we had two people signed up but they're not here but I saw okay so district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman District three commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford uh District Five chairman Mariano hi let's listen to the absolute public hearings we've covered all the items in the morning so now we go to committee reports commissioner open okay I believe I have some pictures to show I believe Maybe so like I said earlier I went out and visited different projects that had 40 and 50 foot Lots [Music] there we go we'll start off with that so we had the firemen Awards meeting there and what do you call that land I guess that's Land of Lakes or loots that address it gets confusing Along on long 54. but it was uh well attended event not only the people that are joining our environment are ems and drivers I mean there was like 25 new employees coming into the fire department so but it was a great uh great event and the families were very much a part of it I will say one thing with our firemen they have a Brotherhood that reaches out to all of us that and you can tell that they are very much a family so and we certainly appreciate everything they do to uh that protect us and do the right thing for us throughout our County so

this was uh last Friday we had this access to East Pasco County um there was quite a board panel there that I was proud to be sitting there so but it actually uh everybody was talking about my district pretty much I kind of like that when they're talking about my district so and y'all got to like it because they're if they're talking about mine they're leaving yours alone so but now it's a very good event I think we had a lot of good questions there I think we gave a lot of a lot of good information for the folks there that were attending probably 100 or Plus people in his uh Chamber of Commerce Dave City Chamber Commerce event so but very well attended so it went out to uh persimmon which uh Marie has a hard time saying Persimmon Hill but the persimmon gets her but I was in the fruit business I've learned that word from years ago but went out to look at this project and see the different architecture on the houses and just get a visit and and actually see the landscape in a um they had quite a quite a bit more Landscapes than some projects in the county which I think we've all been talking about those projects that do not have much they have not you know in this project they have very nice trees and um very nice project in our County so I think they go on to the next picture we went to Baxley actually I think well I don't this picture here is this is Dale Webb Del Webb has a very beautiful project I mean there's 40s and 50s in here but I can tell you with their landscaping and all they do a great job of presenting those homes and I'll be honest with you they don't live like 40 and 50s where I've seen that are not necessarily what we want in a county but that is a very good project I I believe they told me that in Palmetto Ridge which come to us later on they they have a portion of that land in Palmyra Ridge is going to be a Dale Webb so very nice product and then we got this is a rental Community here Ridge Haven as you can see very nice got some good landscape I would I would say the houses are on bigger seem like they're all bigger lots of the American homes American homes no this is off of Chauncey Road if you go down if you go down Marsh bridge and take a right on Chauncey go back to the west and it's just down there on the left but very nice product the homes all look much bigger to conform to what's nearby our the neighbors so they did that if if I want to be critical about anything is and they had Landscaping um their amenity there they had very good landscaping around it a lot they could use a little more around the

houses I think but they've done a good job and they look very nice and they're very clean commissioner Mike Thompson yes a pair certainly this was plotted before these guys came in but that road is so wide it's going to be a racetrack and I would I told them if they wanted this main this road here is yeah this one inside the development the street is wider than our normal requirements so I mean I told I'm fine if they wanted to do on-street parking in this neighborhood this is a perfect example where it would slow the traffic down and keep everyone safer but that is a super wide Street and your engineers here will tell you people will drive as fast as the conditions of the road are also okay I saw people coming and going and I didn't see anyone basically speaking but they were that is a known fact that people drive through the condition of the road correct yeah so that's going to be a problem in here so I'm off work on street parking I'll pass that on to them and I'll talk to you if you if you look at the top of the picture from what I see I get two cars out if they're parked or not looks like it looks like it might be there's room to park so if they just allow that and have the wider street is much better than the narrow streets and they can't park this is what I've seen that's where I was living there yeah yeah because these are mines and they the cars on both sides of the street it blocked it where you could not even yes but this is an example where it'd be it'd be a good thing this is a very nice it's a nice product yeah so I think we have another one I'll show you what's around the corner though uh this is Avila I walked in I believe it I believe it was just this one right here walked in this apartment that's all concrete block control oh this is next Metro this this is one of the nicest products I've seen for rental they're not now they're not affordable they're 23 2400 a month but inside that apartment you it feels I was in one it was two bedroom but a thousand square feet and you felt like you were because it has big windows and all in the family room and the kitchen area it really opens up and is a very nice product so uh very if there's a storm you need to come here because it's going to be there it's it's it's built that well but all this was and they have private uh garages that you can rent some people rent them and put store use them for storage some people have a real fancy car or something they want to put in enough storage they can't so but uh a very very nice product I think I'd like uh staff so if Terry P does maybe him and a couple of his members go out and look they had some areas where they um they asked for a bigger buffer but when you go there and look at what

they asked for and what they got it seems like there's some landscape and all that's really lost to it it could have been done a little a little differently even the manager said the he said the uh some of this could be touched up and they could change some of it to where to have some sitting areas out on these areas rather than just being solid plants and also but a very nice product I agreed when I walked around with him you know they I don't know if they thought that these Open Spaces had to have all that Landscaping so they so they have a fair amount of open space but it's all plants so you can't use it yeah and well that was part of it they thought they could put some benches out there places where you can go and see take out those plants and they did have a trail yeah a sidewalk area that connected to the trail and that you walk there but if you're if you went out there miss Starkey and saw that behind those houses I've been I've done it a couple times yeah but that on the back side which backs up to another project yeah that just wasn't quite right it could have been done better I think staff needs to look at that and and they'll have ideas that when they see it they'll understand it in the future I think the housing product here is very good I personally felt the feel of it was far too much concrete driving around it has everyone been here too yes yeah I I think that they're going to do better on the next one they will they have ideas but they can go back and it's not a good touch up some of this it'd be good real good I think but the product is your product's very good yeah I'll tell you the financial terms or like you say commissioner OPI is very very strong and I I got into the rental because actually my daughter Amber actually looked down here about Renton and if you've got a house that's coming up and you got like six months or eight months you want to be there they'll let you out of your lease but they charge you two months lease to get out have you tried to do a short term they jacked up yeah so well most um most of them do that uh I guess it's just part of that product so well and again so it's when you when you look at you know what's going to go where every bit of this residential that goes to a different component of where somebody can own it fee simple you're taking all this money here it's going to go to a corporation that looks every day to what's the maximum rent we think you can get right and that's what they charge but you can see here they have they have on-site managers the one I lived in had no on-site managers and you could not even if you call the number they told you to call it'd be the wrong person every time I mean you could never get a hold of anyone here they have on-site Personnel right there to answer you questions and

help you through some of the issues you're having an apartment so very nice go ahead done are you done with the commit report or uh yep I think that's all of it yeah thank you sir thank you okay thank you Mr Whiteman thank you chair and thank you commissioner Oakley for showing all the different variations of rental that we have in Pasco that's what I get out of this we have lived local and we have your mix use rental we have our standard apartment Box rental we have the next Metro which we have our some of this were for sale so the first pictures were for sale houses 500 000. that type of rental then we have our uh the American homes for rent style that are deconstruction apartments that aren't on platted let's think as we as we move forward there's so many types of variation of what is rental in our County that I hope at least I am my office is very critical of okay is this rental what type of frontal does it fit does this type of rental fit in the area where they want to put it is it oversaturated I mean there's so many different types of rental coming into our County it's almost hard to keep up with the last product what did you saw Avila that was on 15 acres and 150 units yeah see like there there's it's very nice they're you know those aren't vertically those aren't vertical rentals I thought horizontal yes there yes I think we need I my opinion is is I think we need to understand staff might all this different kind of rental product and what kind of rental product do we want in this County okay I agree the attorney needs to speak up yeah I agree we need it but what's we make a collective decision right I just there's so many different types within the law that's what I'm saying what the commissioner is is nudging me to do and I was gonna I was going to let you continue with your comments okay so my point is there's there's uh well I'm making so many different variations of rental coming into our County and each one kind of has its own identity and its own makeup and its own Market base which I appreciate I'm trying to figure out what type of rental works the best in Pasco and what we want to see here because we see some rental that we're not proud of and then there's some rentals like hey that's pretty good stuff right like where he lived I'll just leave it at that like County attorney take over well what what commissioner Starkey wants me to say is which is true and I have said it from time to time you can't regulate rental when you're making a land use decision it's a land use decision on single family or multi-family it's a land use type not how the not the form of ownership that's not within your land use decision making capability now having said that

there are ways from a land use perspective and a design perspective if the legislature hasn't taken everything away from you all that you can make the product whether it's rental or whether it's single family look like single family and have the landscaping and design characteristics of single family whether the form of ownership is they're renting them out or not I'm not necessarily my concern is that who owns it as long as the property is plotted if it's going to be a single family style rental I want the property platted and eventually it can be sold off as a single family home product I'm a huge believer in home ownership and so that's the top rental like I said on our bill to rent platted you can own as many as you want whoever it is but they need to be planted in case one day they sell off and they can they can I agree with you at some point I mean you you've even seen it in the multi-family low-rise Market where in the last big boom they made a bunch of the rental multi-family condominiumized and they sold them off what would be your traditional apartment complex so at the point where the economic incentive is there the stuff that looks like single family is they're gonna it's gonna be sold off at some point too so if it's going to be single family I'm with you I think a platted single family that they can rent in the interim is it that complies with all the other regulations that a single found a detached single-family house would have to makes abundant sense long term but couldn't it be condo couldn't it be condoed yes they could do a land condo as as well yes how would next Metro plot that that's a completely different rental style they're a completely different type of rental what commissioner Oakley showed and he did a good job with the with the pictures were the different forms of rental in our County you have well there's okay I showed you were from in the Wiregrass area that were single family homes yeah yeah but I'm priced it and believe it or not they were 40 foot laws they were priced in the 500 000 range yeah very expensive I'm just saying that um but you can also condo them so I think the idea is we want some kind of Perpetual guaranteed maintenance so that the community does go downhill and become slummy well that should be that's that's what I'm looking for that should be across the board which is kind of why I like these um more than having someone buy one

house on this street one house on that street one house on that street and um this way they're under a management company and and they keep them up I mean it's an interesting model so Platinum you can go that way I think is a great idea for a county attorney let me ask a question is there a change that we could make in our code that would differentiate between home ownership simple or rental I don't think so I that that's not it's a okay ownership is is not one of those things that you can regulate through land use okay uh commissioner Whiteman I'm I'm done thank you thank you all right uh commission Starkey well I was going to talk about fences but I can't be chairman go ahead also Mount commission Oakley's Island oh go ahead okay my committee reports hey no okay I got anyway y'all are gonna just throw throw tomatoes anyway I'll start off with uh congrats on Mariano family and first grand baby baby boy coming home today so congrats to to all the Marianos and the davises and it's exciting when other young people have kids and welcome to the club and so anyway congratulations and uh next and then thank you uh Andy Taylor well thank Andy you know our sidewalk appropriation and in our legislative delegation our team uh for getting that across the finish line and and working to protect our kids and give our kids a safe way to get and their families get to and from school so that's just a great way to kick off the week uh Advent Health Wesley Chapel Hospital rated one of the world's best hospitals in Newsweek magazine that came out last week and so it's pretty exciting as as Pasco is becoming a medical Hub uh it was neat to see a picture of Advent Health Wesley Chapel on the on the front page so congratulations to the team and Advent health we also visited the Wesley Chapel Lions Club and uh special thanks to Pete castanelli and Tom maver for inviting me and Lions Club still around they're still working for for vision helping helping folks improve eyes and Diabetes Care and they're working working to grow their their Club so it's good to see see that group and meet and talk with them and then we did as Commissioner Oakland Mission earlier we had a chamber event it's a great picture of Representative Maggard uh great event at uh Dade City Chamber you know the chamber does a great job of bringing in we had a Cabinet member there the stars of the show were commissioner Oakley and commissioner Simpson but if the other Chambers took advantage in getting such a broad group of folks there and the other Chambers kind of followed this formula throughout our County I think it'd be fantastic because then if the West Side chamber did it and

Incorporated and then it gets gets folks who are working in their respective areas at different levels to come together and share what's what's going on in in the world in a more Global way so that the chamber is onto something with this East Pasco access event and uh the group there did a great job and commission Oakland did a great job representing the board um now more serious topics I want to bring up uh since the chair urged me last meeting car washes and storage facilities you know we approved a car wash last meeting and that was appropriate place for one on the way here coming down a little road on the east side of the road before you get to to Ridge there's another car wash popping up so at the urging of the chair and it's a lot of comment that we hear I hear from folks people come to the board meetings you go to different various places and talk what what's up with the car washes and storage facilities how many jobs are these things creating what's the give get to the county what's the what's our return is it the appropriate business in the appropriate spot because they're right on made roads Frontage so I kind of listened to the chairs words last meeting I want to bring that up for for discussion uh and get staff input attorney input on you know what's I know certain businesses are are tied into certain zonings but it comes a time when you're probably oversaturated and I want to be deliberate in what businesses are coming here and creating jobs for our community especially when we're at risk for losing our commercially Zone Properties or other Zone properties so I figured it'd be a good hopefully a decent subject matter to bring up for discussion today any tankers well I think I think county attorney's going to tell you um that we approve a zoning but I'm not sure how we can I guess we did something with the storage Lots I mean storage facilities but I'm not I don't know how you do that see because you like today when you brought up about the project we approved to say hey it's not as you the Kentucky Fried Chickens or whatever there's really no no difference right um and you're excited that we're going to something better is going to be there a more unique style of business and opportunity I just don't know how if we can legislate what goes in a C2 but I'll I'll listen to the county attorney well because everyone asked me how can we have so many car washes well you if car wash is a permitted C2 use no you can't yeah now you're the ones who determine what is a C2 use so if you made car washes uh conditional use or a special exception

if they're if they're if there was a legitimate Nexus to to make it to put higher higher standards on it then you could do that through your Land Development code um you know and there you can you can create Gateway zoning areas or overlay districts that says that you know the the 54 52 card or is not an appropriate place for certain uses whatever those uses whatever the board determines those uses to be again assuming the legislature doesn't take that use what take that away from you um but that's you can do that through your Land Development code but currently where everything is a permitted use in C2 C3 whatever no you you don't really have regulatory standards that you can say no a car wash can't go there well but the planning director may have some some insight and someone brought up to me they may use a lot of water I don't know if they do or not but they were they they used recycle they recycled had a pretty yeah okay sophisticated system of recycling their water you know I typically a free market a person um but I don't understand how you can have one every 200 yards and that they're going to stay in business I I don't understand it but I think Terry's trying to come up and say something to us so I understand your concern I said no legislatively what we could do well I would Echo the county attorney's comments so I won't repeat that but one way that um addressing certain types of Redevelopment opportunities would be one way to limit certain types of uses like for example a lot of communities try to limit the number of gas stations because of brownfields that could potentially occur in the future right similarly you can do the same with car washes which do have some chemical associated with them in the in the water treatment requirements that are associated that I believe the state typically regulates other communities I'll put this out there since there was some discussion also about you know businesses like the fast food restaurants and whatever and the appearance of these along our major corridors other communities will will make certain uses conditional uses on the merits of their Urban Design so on Urban Design merits so for instance if I'm there if a business has a drive-through facility they'll say please do a conditional use permit associated with it um if you are going to put it between the building and the street for example so you would relegate the auto orientation of a car wash or of a drive-through away from the public facing Realm towards the street for example I would say there's different ways to handle things so that's a very good idea

I think at this current time I think we've got enough car washes to last us probably another 30 years and if you can bring something like that back to us I think I think it's worth taking a look at well there's a bunch of different stuff we could take a look at that and I think I think you hit it right in the head yeah yeah would you add the fast food in your store layout that we did we took on storage facilities but I think but there's one on 52 just coming out of the ground that's popping up taking up a great piece of real estate that could be really something special down the road and now it's two stories high three stories high and yeah nothing going on so I think let's go take a look at both of them do we want him to come back with ideas on fast food layouts so we can control that a little more like I did with this mpud and car washes and and storage facilities well at least the car wash in the storage facilities you get into the fast food you can open up a whole can of worms I don't know other places have done it yeah no one not everyone's stripping out every road with fast food every 50 states they were 54 out fast food fast food fast food fast food well there are some areas uh it's now County Road 52 coming through San and there's some areas there that we're not allowing fast food in that certain area yeah let's put let's bring all three it's the right thing to do thank you so it's worth the conversation so consensus of the board let's go take a look at those three yeah so we'll we'll we'll go back we'll kind of set expectations to let you know how long that's that's going to take on the 11th we're going to bring back to you the 40s and 50s as a result of discussions after that we had planned to tackle horizontal apartments and some other things so form-based code planning workshops these are all lined up on the runway as our land is all getting chewed up and we're not doing good design I'll tell you people come I've heard it from my son's company I've heard it from numerous people uh because we have some very high-end people coming to Pasco and I mean high-end in the development world and they drive through what some of what we've done recently and they can't believe we've let that happen so I think we could be doing a lot better yeah our code needs so much work it's embarrassing yeah and I think that's part of when we when we look at the comprehensive Plan update that's that's going forward we're trying to move that and then the LDC would typically typically follow I get the impatience with it but every time we get there I will say it on the administrator's behalf because he can't um and I've been here longer I ask um if that's the direction the board wants to go you need to stand behind that decision when

the rubber meets the road I'm here so the so when folks come in and they say but this is development this is good development if it doesn't meet the vision you've set for the county it doesn't matter whether it's good development or not it's it doesn't meet your vision and that's the only way that you're going to change what has happened in the last 20 years let's say just taking it from boom to or from bus to boom again um that it's going to look any different old school what we allowed out there and and um very car-centric and not it's just it'll take a generation before it gets fixed but I think we could do better thank you no and that's thank you board for sharing in these these thoughts and conversation pieces that's why it's so important like with Newport Corners coming in and what's going on Odessa Town Center challenge to think bigger do better let's let's keep improving our identity and what we have here in trying to attract the best that's out there to Come dance with us as carbala would say so thank you thank you board and uh that's all I have okay Mr Starkey um well since Katie has to leave at four um she's been doing a little bit of work on fences and we're going to come we want to talk to you about fences here's some um I have four here so um we'll get one email to commissioner Bradford sorry Gary unless you emailed one to him I did not okay so um so there's commercial fences and residential fences um first uh let's talk about what's going on in commercial fences so permits are not required for either commercial or residential fences and with the change in ordinance for the no chain link right now you just catch it through the planning phase so if you have an existing commercial property and they want to put up a fence to keep trespassers or if they just decide they want to add a fence it's up to them to do the research and educate themselves on what type of fence they can put in since there's no permit required and so that's going to run into some issues because unfortunately they're not doing that research and they're putting up the chain link fences still and then when it goes to planning if they have a line drawn that shows offense planning will then ask well what type of fence are you putting in to make sure they're not putting in a chain link fence and that's how it gets stopped at the planning phase but for the existing commercial there's no way to quote unquote regulate that right now and for example that storage unit that just came in in Gunn Highway area they

didn't have to put a permit on hold permit for that fence they put the fence up in the wrong place and now they have to take it down and they have to move it because they have to have landscaping and so um it's caught it'll cost businesses money um more money in the long run if they go to the expense of putting up a fence it's not allowed because they they didn't they didn't know so now on residential residential is very interesting here in the county you may or may not know this but because we we don't require permits for fences people go and put fences up but we do have rules on fences they just don't know them because we don't require a permit so you can't put a fence inside out um you can't put a fence over six feet high if you're on a corner lot and what's some other weird things that we have well the county right away is the biggest one well yeah you can't put a fence in the county right away which I have a constituent who put a fence in the county right away on a corner so there's a lot um earlier today on it could have been but um so I this constituent drove around her neighborhood with uh and you know she she found a gazillion fence violations but if you've put in a fence and no one has complained about it in a year it's grandfathered so you get you got a rat on your neighbor which is what has happened to her someone has turned her in and um and her well you can't put a fence in them right away but her Fence Company put it there got a survey we don't know how that happened but the county is taking her to court right yes yes we tried to work with her but she put her fence in the county right away there's you just can't do that so um it costs our code a lot of time and a lot of money but it really costs our citizens um a lot of angst and I just think we need a fence permit I don't think it needs to be much I think they could get it online but somehow people need to know what's allowed what's not allowed and this idea of um grandfather your grandfathered in on an illegal fence after a year is weird the counties around us what do they do yeah I don't know about that we're putting up a concrete wall Footers a mechanical gate that requires a button to push in um to open that's the only time a permit's required for either but Hernando County requires defense permit residential and do you remember all the counties in your research I don't off the top of my head okay well we can get that to you but we're like pretty much the only one that doesn't require a fence permit and I think it could be easy but I think we

need it well maybe permitting in the County Attorney is always going to look because if the County Attorney spends an effort of three hours per citation there's got to be better things you can do at this time such as car washes storage units and things like that to work on so if there's a better way to go a streamlined way to go and maybe just a simple online thing of a check the box to be an awareness thing so be it but let's even maybe we'll take a look and do better you know what they do in your in Manatee I don't anymore they they did require fence permits from pretty much everybody but it may have just required you to go out to have your property line surveyed and you brought that in that you were gonna put stuff in but I I can check with the building official down there okay so oh did you want to speak yes if not for AG I just don't yeah not Frank yeah for AG and then we think just think about this if we're going to start if we're going to go the Direction with a fence permit and then having to have Property Owners spend the money for a survey or that adds to the cost of them you have to do that anything I do that anyway just the world's an expensive place right now and the world's a difficult place right now especially with government so just streamline his best I guess my my weight into this not not make it more difficult or more expensive on the consumer than it needs to be I guess that's just my comment I agree but but when you put in a fence and and then it has to be taken out because you did it wrong or did an illegal one is very expensive all right this just helps them do it right fire beware um okay well I guess I would just I would just ask you know overall is the board's concern with the Aesthetics of the fence the location of the fence locations would require surveys if we're going to do that kind of stuff Aesthetics and type of fence could be a very easy straightforward thing I would I would think um I would just like a little guidance as to which issues with fences you really want the staff to focus on think this is about Aesthetics other than the commercial chain link club wire on arterials collectors and main roads I think there's already some rules I don't think we allow wooden fences I'm hearing then correct just make sure that our existing rules on the books are that people looked at an enforcement learn what the rules are before they go to the expense of putting in a fence so maybe we can go to the I'm sorry go ahead maybe go to the Home Depot's defense contractors and give them a list some type of thing they can handle to the people maybe make them more aware of it and go because I agree we don't want to make the world on anything no the picture that is up that is offense offense so that is going to be way more expensive than the permit but that shame on her and the contract doesn't put it

in I mean you can't help that yeah people can do stupid things you can't have you cannot you're not going to fix every situation but here's the thing is she drove around and found well the other problem is where's Denise Denise what's the other issue with that fence The Fortress thing the height on a corner lot is it's there's a there's this Fortress rule if you don't mind explaining it I learned something during all this definitely don't mind explaining but I do want to say for the record this is going to court on Friday so I don't really want to discuss a specific case but just talk about a fortress on Corner Lots uh the secondary so there's a primary front and then there's a secondary front so the primary front basically the six foot fence has to be behind the front door of the building the secondary front they just have to meet the front setback so in this case and at that place that could the fence could be six feet so in this particular situation there's two things going on again in the right-of-way and and it's um over four feet in height commissioner Starkey maybe if you bring something back to us the things you want to see changed or brought to our attention okay um because this is a beautiful fence and but it's just got two things wrong with it now fencing wrong place wrong fence in wrong place but the thing is is she went around the county and found tons of these because we don't have uh there's no enforcement on the fences unless someone turns you in and I'm saying that's a bad way to go about business is you can do whatever you want and if you get away with it for a year you're good to go that's not a good way to do this what's up with the split rail fence that is in the county right away right yes and that is awesome yeah so can we change the rule that after a year that you can we can make you take it out we should not we should not be grandfathering in any illegal fence it's in the right-of-way there is no grandfathering anything outside of that setbacks and height it doesn't matter if you're there you're it's grandfathered in there's no reason to grandfather innocent something that's wrong with our against our code good that's right I don't know where that came from that was a provision that was put in The Code by a former board and uh if that's not the desire of the board it can be taken out well I don't I think it should be taken out okay but we'll bring that back what that might let's do some more research okay anything else um yeah I got more photos thank you um thanks Katie I'm gonna step outside for a second who I'm gonna step outside for a second oh okay

um um this is my weekly or you know bi-monthly landscape this is Tractor Supply on 54 what it looked like in oh shoot the dates cut off I'm sorry this is what it looks like now on the right this is what it looked like when it had its buffer and its trees across the front Okay is another one um The Waffle House this is what it looks like now on the right this is what it used to look like on the left that's that's not attractive that's not okay okay what else do we have up there Tina um oh so here we have truest replacing their landscaping that's missing this is what it looked like in the bottom left um and it was BB T you know they and they changed but now now look what it looks like when they put the Landscaping back in right this is 54 and little this is an important intersection all right what else do we have um I also drove around and went to persimmon Place very nice 40-foot rear loaded product with some front loaded but mostly oh here okay if we're here's our own property and what it looks like right outside of the county building this is our building inspections not complying with any Landscaping um Eric we've talked about this uh nothing in the parking lot nothing no buffers in the front we have three million dollars in our tree mitigation trust fund and we could plant palm trees and stuff there tomorrow there's another one the Sheriff's Office over there what's the other picture from little Sheriff's Office where this is right in front County building when you drive in here next door these are our buildings with no landscape right right next door that's going to be flattened I think so well we could put some palm trees and something in there it's it's embarrassing that we don't have we don't follow our own codes okay uh what else and I did enjoy that firefighter award ceremony um this is the neighborhood that is right around from the um Americans for rent Community I mentioned it I sent a text to you guys if you if you were out there I think you had already been if you get the opportunity come around drive around the corner and take a look at what's going on so um that doesn't look like what we saw this is uh this is River Landing and and two rivers this is brand new okay keep going this is the Rivers Landing brand new in Two Rivers Ranch that's the 40s that's the lit that's the the little house this is what our architecture code allows I guess um this is what I object to this kind of

house I really really object to this um okay go to the townhouses there's the townhouses in Rivers Landing that are under construction this today now they did put they did put palm trees in this one unlike the one in Union Square however they put in the one that we've outlawed and they're putting them in today these these um queen palms but look at look at that concrete uh do I have any more oh this is Wells Fargo on Little Road uh and they put their um they're Landscaping back in so very grateful for that one okay is that it okay thank you welcome good County Administrator oh no actually commissioner Bradford I think we have a couple of things to say all right first first of all I really have enjoyed this getting back with into the discussion of all the fellow commissioners particularly want to emphasize Seth Whitman's comments about the future and we need to be a world-class County we're doing this for our kids and our grandkids I think that's very important uh second get a lot of background second is you know I don't do a lot of things at the County Commission yet but there's one thing that I will always do and uh I wasn't able to attend the firefighters I'll have ceremony Todd and Paul I'm like my fellow teammates but they're they're with me but to see those firefighters we used to call them but I can't use those words anymore but young people starting their their careers out the glow and the commitment on their face they're not doing it for the money they're doing it for a calling I think it's simple I think it's a common upon every single member on this board never to forget our Public Safety factor and I knew it will the last thing I'll follow up with is I do appreciate Jeff's comments when he said when this sport sets our vision elective and where we want to go as important and the winds start to blow that we have our County administrators back uh that is very very important that we do not throw him under the bus so with that I'll stop and it's great to be back and see you all and uh we'll see you soon all right Bishop Bradford great too great to have you participate in the meeting and that means a great thing is that your health is getting better and uh we're all praying for you we're all hoping for you so as you get better we look forward to seeing you in person as well but keep doing what you got to do to make yourself as healthy as possible thank

you thank you County Administrator just real quick Mr chair um in keeping with the theme of libraries or cultural centers uh whatever we're going to Rebrand them as our libraries are actually proud to add the Tampa Bay History Center to our Discovery Pass collection that's important because the Discovery Pass collection has a number of museums that our citizens and actually library card holders can enjoy for free so this is this is a Smithsonian accredited you know facility down in Tampa over 12 000 years of of Florida history so again our libraries are doing amazing things it's just a benefit that I'd just like to call out for for our citizens that are out there so thank you all right thank you County attorney I don't have anything generally for you thank you madam clerk I I do not either okay thank you I have nothing today but thank you all very much and uh yeah we'll work on being a grandpa you got a grand baby you already talked about it be ready to go see the girl all right all right so I I don't know I'll bring the pictures the next time literally uh born on Flag Day the 14th and uh so Amber and Scott uh have a baby boy named Wesley Alexander nine pounds seven ounces uh 21 and a half inches long and last night I was for the first time in eight days not waiting forgot to hold them uh they spent the night in the hospital last night and literally at lunch break I was driving back to the house so Michelle could come back here and she was driving down with the car seat in the car feel take the baby home so the babies if not on its way just just about on his way right now so uh you know they've it's been a tough eight days as you know here in neonatal Intensive Care Unit to go through that and just well just it was just precautionary precautionary every step of the way some lung issues that were going on and some blood sugar stuff so they had to make sure and I tell you what HCA Trinity Hospital did a phenomenal job it is so great to know instead of driving down I didn't even like I did with my kids to have them born right here in Pasco County it's a super proud thing and again they did a phenomenal job down there HCA thank you very much for all the great team and uh yeah we're just uh just delighted as Grandparents my wife and I to uh carry the family on so Delight congratulations thank you [Music]

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