03.07.2023 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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foreign [Music] [Applause] myself [Music] foreign County Board of Commissioners meeting of March 7 2023 please silence all electronic devices and meet your phones we proceed to the public hearing starting with ordinances P-39 continuous I have a proof Mr chair okay item P-39 was published in Tampa Bay Times on January 22nd 2023. thank you good afternoon Mr chair Commissioners Denise Hernandez planning on development P39 is Ena 2300005 uh the the item is the request to continue the item to the April 4 2023 board county commissioner's meeting at 1 30 in Dade City okay may have a motion to continue P-39 so move second all in favor say hi hi hi any opposed it has been probably moving seconded next item P40 clerk will announcement noticed item P40 was published February 10 2023 February 17 2023 February 24th 2023 and March 3rd 2023. 40s pdv 230141 this is an ordinance establishing the Harvest Hills Community Development District pursuant to chapter 194 to statutes providing for authority and power of the district providing for powers and rules of the district providing for the Board of Supervisors of the district providing for the District budget providing for functions of the district providing for miscellaneous Provisions providing for an effective date we're asking that you adopt the item by roll call vote this is a public hearing Madam clerk do we have anyone in person or on WebEx sign up for this item I have no one signed up on person or in WebEx the comments board nobody now I just want to speak to it anyone from the audience want to speak is so no one signed up no one came with it I moved second all in favor say hi call the roll please district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman aye District three commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano hi now we proceed with the public hearings with a county attorney please review the procedures for resume be happy to Mr chairman there are two reasoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant

will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with Stanford Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning May at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications or the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that near public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria for rezoning found within the board's Land Development care okay those who are in person who wish to speak to any of the items on the public hearing agenda will be swollen by the clerk now if you would please stand if you're going to speak on any of the item the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God thank you today we have four public hearing items on the consent agenda we'll start with the withdrawal on p-41 p-41 is PD 230224 this is a conditional use request in the name of Patricia Webber fessmeyer North American Towers LLC earthcom services this is a request to withdrawn the withdraw the item and no further action is required okay next item p-42 item p-42 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on October 19 2022. PDD 237665 in the name of Rhema Investments LLC Apple Enterprises this is a request to continue the item to the April 4th 2023 Board of County Commissioner's meeting in Dade City may have a motion to continue p-42 bro second all in favor say aye aye aye that's so that's a motion to approve the continuance second all in favor to continue say aye aye oh you're okay next item p-43 item p-43 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on January 4th 22 23 this is PDD 237548 a zoning amendment in the name of harvest Hills North Villages of Pasadena Hills Master Planning and Development it's formerly known as harvest Hills the level of Consulting LLC is a proposed substantial modifications for previously approved mpud to separate it into multiple smaller mpds and allow transfer of the following entitlements 798 residential dwelling units and 167 811 square feet of non-residential uses on approximately 319.3 Acres on this item there is a couple a few Corrections in your background summary alternative analysis the location of the project should be on the north side of Prospect Road at the intersection of Prospect Road and hampart Road additionally the parcel identification numbers that were provided were actually for Harvest Hills South so the corrected parcel ID numbers

and this will all be provided to the clerk's office I'm going to read them into record our 13-1 25-20-0000-00100-0000 comma 18-25-21-000-00100-000. comma 18-25-21 zero zero zero zero zero zero three zero zero zero zero zero zero and at Josh 25-21-000-00400-0000 again that will be uh provided to the clerk's office as a correction okay and the request is to find to approve it with conditions as included in your packet this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the Pasadena Hills planning and policy committee who met on 11823 and the Planning and Development Department is anyone here to speak against this item I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for this item okay believe it on consent uh commissioner Mr Starkey um two questions um one is for Mr pitas if I was going to bring up our discussion yesterday of the tnd ordinance which one of these numbers is the best one for me to break it up because I don't want to bring it up once uh nutritis Peters playing a development you're referring to the to the Harvest Hills yes because there's three three of them right yeah they're associated with each other being here yeah the Harvest Hills Commons is geographically separate from the north and southamps but they're all basically in the same Cloud well it doesn't matter yeah it doesn't really you can adjust it to either all of them well it's a statement in general but I want to because we have sunshine I need to discuss things correct very quickly with the reward so so I mean I want to put one of them on for discussion I guess Mr chairman is is the item are any of these tnd or are they all well no that's no one's following that ordinance okay I want to pull this one off for discussion take off consensions I'll do this okay we're pulling p43.43 now we'll go to pimp 44. so um publication item P 45 4 was published in Tampa Times on January 4th 2023. thank you p44 is PDD 237604 it's harvest Hills South Villages of Pasadena Hills Master Planning and Development formerly known as past as harvest Hills level of Consulting LLC substantial modification to a previously approved Master Planning and Development District to separate it into multiple smaller mpds and allow for a transfer of the entitlements as follows 759 residential dwelling units and 100 102 073 square feet of non-residential on approximately 116.3 Acres comes through you with a recommendation of approval and conditions from the Pasadena Hills planning and policy committee we met on 118 of 23 and the planning and development department and the conditions are as included in your

agenda packet okay is there anyone here to speak against this item let's see no one will leave it on consent and I have no one signed up for or on WebEx for this item okay thank you next item p45 item p45 was published in the Tampa Times on January 4th 2023. this is PDD 237605 it's a zoning Amendment part of this Hills Commons religious Pasadena Hills Master planning and development level of Consulting LLC it's a substantial modification to reduce the number of entitlements from 470 dwelling units to 276 dwelling units comes here with a recommendation of approval conditions as included in your Gemma packet for the planning in Pasadena Hills planning and policy committee who met on 118 of 23 and the Planning and Development Department is anyone here to speak against this item and they were on WebEx there is no one on WebEx hello I'm just wondering if we just gonna pull we can pull it yeah let's I just want to talk about these things so what did you do with that one so for clarification we're pulling t43 p44 and p45 yeah for discussion okay so the last last one on consent is p46 item p-46 was published in Tampa Times on November 23 2023 .678 is a zoning amendment in the name of Margie a tingling it's for a zoning for a change in zoning from C3 commercial light manufacturing district with a specific use for data processing to a C2 General commercial District um this uh there is a correction on this item in your references section it incorrectly list lists the BCC date as 221 of 23 and it was actually 2 7 of 23. that correction has been submitted to board records um that the applicant on the site and has also voluntarily agreed to a deed restriction which is included in your agenda packet which shortly as to have a minimum of 10 000 square feet of office uses prohibiting car washes gas stations drive-through restaurants and Standalone RV and Boat Storage to allow self storage facilities um provided that they're set back a minimum of 250 feet from the 50 State Road 52 right away and not allow RV and Boat Storage as part of the self storage facility and to also stub out the property to the West this comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the planning and development department and the planning in at the Pasco County Planning Commission is anyone here enough to speak in opposition to this item I have no one signed up for this item and no one on WebEx okay Mr chairman Mr chairman if I can ask the commissioner so do you intend to modify 43 44 and 45 or do you just wish to have a discussion uh uh I I want to be sure we're not tying our hands on something that the Builder developer may want to do so I would let the commissioner have her

you will so when you talk about parking restrictions are you talking about the length of the driveway or what else are you talking about well I think everything's on the table the part we've already agreed to is the condition the standard condition uh that I think commissioner Oakley initiated and staff worked out with the regulation amongst free parking that basically requires the HOAs to control and enforce that so that the people aren't parking there and that the cars are not across sidewalks but yes the short answer is a big part of the problem is making sure those driveway links are sufficient that people aren't parked across sidewalks and aren't parked into the streets but all those things they're happy to discuss that hang on a second Mr you have been swollen correct yes sir I'm sorry so so you know I I wish we hadn't gotten rid of the tnd but I'm telling you our tea and dornis was really bad um I I hear we might have a pretty Progressive developer here which I'm excited about he's doing a charette I would encourage us to attend this is the first real I think Village that's coming in is that right yeah it'll be right under under the real original concept this will be the first meaningful development of the oph that actually gets launched and by the way the same developers the same one that's going to be building all those utilities and roadways under the other agreements we've approved in the last two months so one of the in discussions yesterday with administrator and the planner Terry you know some of the thoughts that we've had and I don't know if these already apply to vlph I can't remember is to incentivize the rear loaded product um where you where the parking goes in the back and then you have on-street parking you get a lot more parking in a community that way but one of the discusses we've had and I've had it with you on North Newport Corners is the ability to add what's called an accessory dwelling unit um in the back we have been Longleaf all over the place and some of our County attorneys rented some where you get a little granny flat or mother-in-law Suite or something and we wouldn't count it as the towards density wave impact fees because it can be considered Workforce housing and you know we're working on I I really want the developer to hear this working on these incentives to entice a better Community than if you can picture streets and streets and streets of 40-foot Lots with garage and door in the front and parking you know do you have a single car garage you can only be able to fit one car unless you're using the garage and I have it's hard to find a person that's a family that only has the one car so so picture rows and rows of that versus the rear loaded product which is in my mind so much better and I also would hope that a streets would be broken up with quadruplexes and different varieties of products so it's not a

monotonous you know Southern California Love from rows and Rose of the same house but it's painted a different color with a different color garage door so I'm just really hopeful that what we've done at boph becomes something really special and by taking out some of the stuff that we did last year which I understand why we did it it was not a good ordinance we've shot ourselves a little bit in the foot and I'm hoping we can use a carrot to get some of this good product back in so that's all I wanted to say that that's a good approach I just want to add to it we had talked about I was living while I was building a new home I was living in a Fitch foot lock position and people Park on both sides of the road if you got a 20-foot road that doesn't leave a room from one vehicle Lane to go through there I had some I ate I was moving out of my house last week and had someone coming toward me there was nowhere for me to pull over and let them buy they had to pull over let me get by before they could come down the road and if that was this product is going to end up like that then we really don't want that in our our County so I mean it's um so if you're not having any street parking that's great but are you putting in extra parking somewhere for some of these people because they're going to have more than some of them have more than two cars and that's exactly those issues are exactly what Mr Galvin wants to work through in the designs you're at because we agree that flexibility and product particularly to get a little unique in the village centers that's how you can create the Village Center look that you've always wanted without them requiring the density as you found out you know from from The Village Center so we have no disagreement over any of these Design Concepts and he's happy to participate in that that design process and have a charade on it and these these houses are for sale right yes sir and uh you know we're just for I don't know who Mr Gallon is back there back there but um we are working on um making the alleys cheaper too and and you know more realistically priced because I know that's part of the issues that have been there for a traditional neighborhood development and this county is what we've been requiring them to build since we are Builders less expensive to construct yeah did I say it wrong you said cheaper we are Premiere so it's yes that uh our prior Marshall is not gonna objective um but so we know we have we know we have work to do but I just want you to know we we'd like to work with them to achieve what it was originally intended and they're happy they're happy to try to work with you so they set that standard and they do create it is a unique opportunity since they're the first ones out of the box of any you know material magnitude so let me go back to my question and you guys see it here on the screen and Joel it's up there the

diagram that's in here I mean that is intended simply to depict as your code required so we have to we have to acknowledge that for each lock width we acknowledge what the setback requirements are that's that's directly from the Land Development code so that applies in any case but that doesn't tell you how the subdivision is going to be laid out you're going to get those plans those plans are going to have to come in and they're going to have to beat the design requirements of the vo pH code this is just an example that for a 40-foot lot this is the maximum building footprint that could be on there and still comply with your setbacks so I mean that that's just a generic okay so if if our applicant did want to do a rear loaded product he's not held to this no we just have to come in here to change anything correct that's what I want to make sure well I can't imagine I can't imagine staff would make you amend the zoning to do that I mean if they apply if they approve or whatever comes in right I just didn't want to be stuck we don't want to have to be amending zonings either too because I can tell you to be creative one yeah I I believe this commission doesn't want a county full of that these are the quote minimum standards so you can always do more now you know one thing you have to do is you have to you have to allow those accessory drawing units which you know we have in Connected City you know to an extent but that's something that you know you probably need to address so is that not addressed via pH because we did it in Newport Corners um so my knowledge that has not been specifically addressed on vo pH but it's also not prohibited at dlph okay what I mean I think we want that I mean that's if that's a product you want that's something that would be a great topic for the design trap to be honest with you stop tells me because the design shirt I've heard about the fire truck lanes always we can look at that too exactly that's the issue the issue this may be the ultimate time to actually make these changes that we need to do to adjust it to just the code to make it easier to have a great development because we I do like the railroading project it doesn't look much much better and I think that would be Mr Mister coming out of the Dinosaur app would be some type of policy memorandum that PDD adopted for vo pH and that the board obviously has to prove and that these would be if you will kind of design guidelines which you clearly have the power you know to adopt and and that's part of the trick is when I get the fire marshal and everyone else on the same page how much time do you think we need for this for this you're right how much time do you think we need with the Sharad needs to be to be processed so two or three hour process I think it's worthwhile alrighty any more discussion on these

items nope I would move yeah so publicly let me just go back the line let me just go back on Yeah by one that works all right so item P 43 is there anyone here to speak against this item I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx okay p44 is there anyone here to speak to this item I have no one signed up in person and no one on WebEx without a consent and p45 is there any way to speak to this item I have no one signed up in person and no one on WebEx okay okay all right so that'll be the consent agenda move approval thanks in agenda have a motion a second all in favor say aye aye aye any opposed okay thank you very much good discussion p47 item P-47 was published on Tampa Bay Times on January 29 2023 and February 5th 2012. good afternoon Heather wolf real property planning division uh petitioners for this item have requested a continuance to the April 4th board meeting here in Dade City at 1 30. um this was scheduled for uh action today so if you if you may want to call and see whether there's anybody in the audience cannot make the continuing state is anyone here that wants to speak to this item and can't make it on the continuing state vacation I have no one signed up for p47 and no one on WebEx for peace 47. okay so moved to the continuance to date and time certain yeah second second best practically all in favor say aye aye the opposed okay item p-48 item p-48 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on January 18th 2023. I believe Divine Planning and Development um item p-48 PDD 23-7686 in the name of Oakley Junction AG LLC slash Oakley Junction is a zoning member from AC agricultural District to C2 General commercial District the subject site is located in the northeast corner of Oakley Boulevard and Old Pasco Road the surrounding future land use to the north Is Res 3 res 6 and mixed use mixed use to the south and east is mixed use and then to the West Is Res six and mixed use the surrounding Zoning for the site to the north is acar R1 and mf2 to the east is AR to the South is AC and to the West is AC and R1 the subject site is currently undeveloped on approximately 1.98 Acres the applicant proposes to develop the property in conformance with C2 General commercial District standards for development the applicant has volunteered a deed restriction which will limit the maximum square footage for commercial slash retail uses on the property to 22 000 square feet access to the property is from Old Pasco Road a county maintained collector road with approximately 130 feet of right-of-way and Oakley Boulevard a

county maintained local road with approximately 90 feet of right-of-way and the future land use for the property is mixed use under the comprehensive plan this is coming with a recommendation for approval from Planning Commission and Planning Development Department I'm here if you have any questions okay any questions for staff okay anyone from the public like to speak to this item have one person signed up I do not have their name I won't say from the applicant yes good afternoon Barbara wilheit 6327 Grand Boulevard New Port Richey 34652 representing the applicant pretty straightforward we're sitting at the corner of Old Pasco Road and Oakley Boulevard in a mixed-use land use your most intense and dense land use so this is where in pursuant to your vocational criteria in your comprehensive plan this is where commercial locates along these types of roads in this location I think staff did a very good job of going through the application and we're here to answer questions I have my client and our traffic engineer let's see what the public comment is and we can address from there thank you okay any questions all right so this is a public hearing yeah I had one person signed up signed up fried their name the organization is based Baptist Church and street address is Smoke Tree Lane I believe okay if you could state your name and address and then whether or not you've been sworn yes I'm Sean Harold 35059 Smoke Tree Lane that's in Dade City 33523 and yes I've been supported thank you already so we do have a few concerns I am the school administrator of the property just alongside of the two lots the two Parcels in question here and in our opinion uh Oakley Boulevard is not ready for an increase in traffic especially not right in front of our school there right in front of our church and our school we would be concerned for the safety of our students we think having a General commercial lot right here on this land with access to Oakley Boulevard is kind of troublesome for the traffic and in conjunction with the traffic concern um we would have a concern with specific high traffic businesses that drive people there businesses or restaurants with drive-throughs gas stations or even trailer parks could seriously raise traffic and safety concerns right in front of our school also added foot traffic is a concern we seem to have enough people uh wandering aimlessly around or near or on our property in our school property and so we'd just be concerned with any type of business that may draw more of that particular kind of individual near the vicinity of our school and so I just wanted to make our concerns public and

state them for your consideration thank you thank you is there anyone else from the public like to speak to this item if no one signed up back to the applicant thank you we did go through a traffic review in connection with the rezoning and we meet all of your criteria Mike razor can discuss that more if you have any specific questions we have to go through access management review at the time of site plan we know what the use is we were at the zoning stage now and there is appears to be a wetland in between our property lines where this property line is and then moving towards the east of where the school facility is and it's wooded there now um we don't intend on drawing individuals in and um it is a good location for commercial it's exactly what your code says and we'll be good neighbors any questions I want to make a motion move approval okay any further discussion all in favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes okay p49 item p-49 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on January 18th 2023. Denise Hernandez plenty of development p-49 is PDD 237687 this is a zoning amendment in the name of global broker Group LLC and Alma Associates LLC it's for a change in zoning from AR agricultural residential district to an R4 high density residential district um on March 1st we received a request from the applicant's representative to continue the item to the May 9 2023 board county commissioner's meeting at 1 30 in Dade City I understand there's some folks in opposition here on the item so you may want to call for so when we have the County Attorney explain the procedures whether we have a continuance that's recorded ahead of time and shown it's permissible to do that instantly when we have people that show up for a one that's been that's been requested to be continued um we have a different procedure so this County attorney since this was advertised for approval if there is anyone in the audience who wishes to speak that cannot come back on May 9th they can speak now but if you speak now you won't be able to speak on May 9th you only get one job so that's up that's up to you and if we continue it nothing happens it just gets continued to maintenance right full hearing will be on May 9th okay so does anyone want to speak to this item and no one on WebEx have anyone else signed up for that gentleman so you want to come forward and speak sir [Music] yes now keep in mind if you speak today you won't be able to speak we have the public hearing that's being continued to May 9th we can just wait you'll be able to speak at that that hearing when we have it

because we want to make any decisions on it today we're just continuing it May 9th yes so we're going to make that most well expect that motion will happen soon so I'm sure I don't have anyone else signed up in person or in WebEx okay and no one else has come forward so um Denise we need a motion until till what day May 9th at 1 30 PM in Dade City move to continue second let's move continue time certain to May 9th at 1 30. all in favor say aye aye aye any opposed okay thank you and that is our agenda thank you very much for the new well commissioner Bradford lives in a neighborhood that has where electricity yes um Starkey Ranch has rear loaded products um Asturias Dave's weekly homes we are loaded so just so you can get a feel for what we're talking about in Longleaf of course um because because you know people would call Longleaf is a tnd neighborhood traditional neighborhood development which is the old style of design the old style like Old Northeast and take downtown Tampa and you know really where they had alleys and all that kind of stuff when you have not just Liam or someone else may be able to explain it better than me that's a planner but our architect uh what we call in Starkey Ranch and Bexley and asterisk is tnd light is kind of the term that our family uses but I think you can get a real sense for the difference between what a front loaded 40-foot lot Community looks like and a rear loaded and how it handles the parking and the all those issues if you would drive through some of those neighborhoods I don't know of any on the east side and maybe staff knows some where there's some there's none okay um and I know that because of some of the restrictions that I don't feel are necessary and what we've done in the back with the alleys we've added a lot more class to them and makes it unattractive for a development community so I just wanted to encourage you to to experience what we're talking about so we all become a little more knowledgeable because for me Rose and Rose and Roads and roads on the east side full of front loaded 40-foot Lots is not a vision that I had thought we would have when we did the opas if I understood them right when they were talking about your 40-foot lights they had 20 foot in the front right they have a 20-foot driveway which really fits one one car one one F10 pickup right okay I went and practice when I grew up I was 20 foot from the sidewalk to the house yeah the setback that you that you saw right or that was attached to that the typical

section had a 20 foot setback to the front of the house a 25 foot set back to the garage that's what I thought yeah well that's only that's only still one car 800 feet 800 square feet in front yard in the backyard I thought they said they had 40 by 15 feet the setback from the property line is 15 feet 600. and it's five foot yeah from the that's what we have in the backyard of these places 600 feet I personally think we should discuss five foot setbacks and consider something a little bigger like we used to have because where are you putting your air conditioner and everything in your pool equipment by the time you put that in you you can't even put a fence because you can't you have to go over it you know so yeah there's issues with the rain coming off the roofs and it makes this gutter this yard thing where grass won't grow because all the water is coming down so I'm not sure in a certain kind of product that we want right that five foot should be the minimum you know I've seen a few of the new ones when one was off Wisteria loop I think it was Alden maybe it looked lousy um so another one KB Homes over on Shady Hills Road just super tight cars parked right in the sidewalk on the street and looking at the one in Starkey it looks awesome the way it's set up and the front yard's right there you can actually go from your front yard to the walkway and get on the trail and go everybody's parked in the back so whatever the hindrances are let's go take a look at them find a way to make it work because I think we cannot end up with that end product it is a lot better right you know I just met with Lennar yesterday um and they said they'd build that kind of product in other counties but they they don't build it in ours so yeah did you have staff with you in that meeting yeah good job all right so Terry I've got a meeting come up with them too I'd like to include you in it because I wanted the same type of dialogue from you all right so Mike as quick as we can get that set let's let's make it happen it's an important important uh adventure for us anything else come before the board all right we're adjourning thank you thanks sir [Music]

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either removed or if there is more medical treatment that can be offered for her [Music] so we're hanging out in our treatment area and this is where our animals are anesthetized and then go ahead and prep for their surgeries so like somebody like this little sweetheart we would go ahead and maybe working with our medical team and working with them and to be having their exams done while we're here so not only are we doing surgeries on our kittens today but we have several dogs that are also going under for surgery as well one of our pups here she had