1.10.2023 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Morning Session)

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foreign [Music] foreign [Music] County Commission 10 o'clock meeting on January 10 2023 at this time please silence all electronic devices and meet your microphones uh please rise to the invocation Pledge of Allegiance oh merciful Creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and Grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give maybe faithful stewards of your good gifts amen amen amen ities to the flag of the United States Madam Clarke please call the roll district one commissioner Oakley here District Two commissioner Weightman hey he's going to be on WebEx okay a commissioner Weightman we did not hear you uh I wonder for this audience may I ask he will be joining the meeting he can talk and do that but he can't vote is that correct no under your rules he can participate virtually if he is ill doesn't wish to bring his illness into the chambers you you left that as an option um in your procedural rules when we went from hybrid virtual to right but he can vote but he vote Yes you that that illness is the one example one exception that you left in your procedural rules for a commissioner for participating virtually okay in full capacity the only difference is you have to have a roll call vote because he's not president right okay but we need to we need to get his acknowledgment yes he's there commissioner Weightman if you could please um try to unmute again we hear you thank you District three commissioner Starkey here District Four commissioner Bradford here District Five chairman Mariano here Now's the Time for public comment citizens are given an opportunity to comment on any current or future agenda item coming before the board and on other business under the board's purview today's public comment will be handled as as follows first we will take the public comment from those who are here in person then we will take public comment from those who are pre-registered for a WebEx link and currently on Queue we request that when you address the board comments are not directed personally at against a commission or a team member but rather directed at the issues this provides mutual respect between the board members and the public after stating your name and address for the clerk a three-minute timer will be activated after two minutes a single beep will indicate you have one minute left when your time is up too beautiful sound then you should close your comments WebEx participants will be disconnected automatically when their time is up Madam Clark do we have anyone signed up for public comment yes I have one person who signed up in person and I also have

someone on WebEx so we'll go ahead and do the citizen who's in person uh John thomsu hello Commissioners uh John Thompson 26738 Wing Dome Drive Wesley Chapel Florida 33544 before I begin I'd like to submit this into the record file have a motion a second all in favor say aye aye opposed thank you thank you so much oh sorry so I just wanted to uh celebrate today um because we can't I won't be here tomorrow but tomorrow is the anniversary of the um the rezoning resolution 22-25 Romeo Zulu so on that resolution the Commissioners decided and voted against the rezoning of [Music] um land in what's known as s19 in the Seven Oaks Community unfortunately that was reversed after a process was done where it got to come back before the board not through normal channels where they had to wait a year but instead got to go through special mediation that mediation program resulted in some minor changes that the board at that time felt was significant enough to Warrant the change in voting to allow the rezoning effort we continuously see around the community especially in the upcoming Saddlebrook area opportunities where developers come in and they want to rezone areas of land rezoning is a very special process that I would hope that the board continues to check all the facts on before they allow the you know that type of rezoning specifically rezoning should be something that is necessary only for special circumstances and I'm not talking about property owners who have a valid right to develop and do whatever is originally entitled for that land what I'm talking about is the rezoning Amendments that are required so that they can change that valid land use especially for areas like seven oaks that have been around since you know originally 2001 development starting in 2004 people moving in a lot of those residents still live there and they bought into a community that you know was developed with a specific Form and Function and that was supported through the rezoning efforts however one sorry through the existing zoning efforts however whenever a developer comes in purchases two plots of land inside s19 knowing what that zoning is and then requests to have it rezoned there has to be a special a special reason a special purpose behind it in the past we've had a lot of residents come out and support not sorry against the rezoning and you know I would just hope that in the future whenever we look at places like Saddlebrook and these communities that are currently in existence that we always remember that the rezoning is something that's special there has to be some you know urgent dire need an example of why it doesn't work to begin with before we allow that so I really look forward to working with you guys in

the future congratulations happy New Year and also you know if there is any type of possibility I would ask for resolution 2309 Romeo Zulu to be rescinded immediately so that it could be before the before the board for a regular vote instead of going through the previous process the time for reconsideration of that item has long since passed yes sir so you you there is no bringing it back up and and rescinding the resolution at this point unless unless the court in the current challenge decides that it was done improperly that's the only way that that unless the property owner um seeks to down down Zone it that it's going to come back to back to the board yes sir I appreciate that okay and I just wanted to say that uh you know it never hurts to ask so thank you thank you thank you I do have an additional person that had come in and signed I think the name is Marlene Mann from is that correct deacon hello Marlene Mann 39151 Woodland drives Zephyrhills Florida uh I just want to go on record to say that I oppose the vacating of the platted petitioned to vacate portion of three platted rights away by Blue Triton I know it won't do any good but I just speak on behalf of the neighborhood that used to be a nice quiet neighborhood of 16 homes Dead End Street we're in the county but right next door to us is used to be Nestle's never knows bottled water now owned by Blue Triton blue we our neighborhood was there before Luke Triton or Zephyrhills bottled water was ever built we tried back then all the neighbors to get this this to occur outside the city limits because we are County a dead end Street and and the bottled water plant is City and we had always tried to get them to go outside of the city but as it would be uh they won and the city wanted him now in the 80s when the housing depression came and people couldn't sell their homes uh blew Nestle at that time wanted to expand they tried to buy the ball fields from this city of Zephyrhills that didn't work out that was on the North so instead they decided they would buy up all the homes they could on the other South End and as they bought up eight of 16 homes with the intent I'm sure to get rid of our neighborhoods so they could expand so that they bulldozed these homes down so now we have them wanting to expand again uh they're going to get rid of a lot of big Oaks over 200 trees they're going to bring this retention Pond within 75 feet of our backyards and in and also which was our roadway is now what they're wanting to take over is the side streets the uh roadways so it will be part of their property and I'm sure the next step they will try is to bring it into the city limits none of the neighbors want this we don't want our peaceful neighborhood destroyed with mosquitoes close by all the trees

Big Oats disappearing plus the big noise factor of the trucks which are 24 hours a day which will be right close to our backyards and the big lights that's all I have to say I know there's probably not much hope because big city and big companies always win but thank you for hearing me out that's my objection Mr chairman this item is a public hearing item this afternoon ma'am please this item is number 64 on the agenda it's a public hearing this afternoon this afternoon 1 30 or soon thereafter yes well no but all I saw was the 10 o'clock meeting but thank you what time is it thank you okay and we have a webmix um I do I have an individual on WebEx um Mr Rob Park you uh looks like you have been elevated Mr Park you can go ahead and proceed please state your name and address for the record first so good morning Rob Park 96-14 Aaron cutoff Lando Lakes Florida good morning Commissioners I oppose the suggestion made by this board the neighborhoods should have interconnecting roads for citizens to bypass the arterial roads it is irresponsible for the leadership of this County to purposely create scenarios that would jeopardize citizens safety adding congestion and tragedies that are happening on major roads to our neighborhoods I am not alone in my opposition for example all of these have been in the news May the rest of the chapel there was a dispute about through traffic between Meadow Point 2 and meta point three is a neighborhood rude the new developments are part of the increased traffic the real culture is that it connects US-41 to Sunlight Boulevard State Road 54. a neighborhood home in New Port Richey as a traffic problem because it connects US 19 and a little roads Aaron Cook it's a neighborhood Road in Orlando Lakes State Road 52 and U.S 41. U.S 41. other people are turning on baby-defined Bell Lake Road using Collier Parkway State Road 54 and U.S 41 intersection no doubt there are many other examples what do you think is going to happen with traffic when the dozens of the apartment complexes nearing completion from Wesley Chapel to Trinity open County leadership needs to come up with another plan is to be on keeping arterial traffic on arterial roads okay disagree that's all we have is that all we have on WebEx that's all we have on the web is there anywhere else in the public would like to address that didn't sign up already okay that will close public comment uh now it's time for the resolutions Madam clerk would you please read the first resolution and with the recipient who's approached the podium this is the

San Antonio numbers yes Mr Thomas Schrader San Antonio Lumber all right I'll go ahead and read the resolution first resolution number 23-049 a resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida congratulating Thomas Schrader San Antonio Lumber company's 100th anniversary with many years of support and dedication to the Pasco County community whereas San Antonio Lumber Company is one of the few businesses in East Pasco County that was started in the 1920s that is still in existence today in San Antonio Florida and whereas the Schroeder family has run the business since 1923 and in 1929 Herman Schroeder bought out JP Lynch and ran the business himself until 1937 when he turned the business over to his son Arthur Schrader who remained at the helm for 20 years and Raz in 1957 the San Antonio Lumber Company was passed to author Schrader Jr who expanded the store and grew the business Arthur Schrader Jr headed Regional agricultural pilot programs and forged an alliance with the Purina Chow company after his death in 1994 his son Thomas Schrader succeeded him as the current owner and whereas with over 40 years of experience at San Antonio Lumber Company Thomas Schrader picked up where his father left off and has been dedicated to the employees community and towards the businesses transformation Thomas has adopted his father's conservative approach to operating the business while looking to the Future for New Opportunities and advancements to place the business more competitively in the market Andres Thomas's daughter Sarah Schrader joined the family business in 2012 after graduating from Stetson University and spending several years in other Industries Sarah currently serves as president of San Antonio Lumber Company and is looking to the Future through Innovation and change while keeping their fundamental values that have served them well Andra San Antonio Lumber company's multi-generational family business is still humbly serving the community and construction trade and continues to play a vital role in interesting vital and interesting role while forging unique and remarkable relationships to become the People's Choice now therefore be it resolved by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said bored hereby congratulates Thomas Schrader of San Antonio Lumber company's 100th anniversary with many years of support and dedication to the Pasco County Community done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 10th day of January 2023. any approvals second all in favor say aye aye aye thank you stay right there this is your day we congratulate you on on 100 years in this business I know your grandfather probably ran it before your dad and on and on but uh it's been a good business and continues to do good business I built my first home buying material from Saint Ann

Lumber back in the 70s I'm building my last home right now to finish up buying my materials from San Ann Lumber and I've done other homes and other projects with my company and my family over the years so many different ways that we've been able to use your company and and get what we need for us building construction needs so I congratulate you on today not many companies last 100 years so I mean they don't have anybody to take over or whatever they're sold or gone but thank you for all y'all done for our community and East Pasco County and working with us so we certainly appreciate you um and I would like for you to speak to your business over the Hundred Years time you may want to start and serve and finisher I only talk about the last 50 because I've been there but we are the uh the largest independent Lumber Company in East Pasco County and the only one by the way yeah right anyways at the moment there's other but we've been there a long time a lot of great customers over the years a lot of good employees have been there some have been there 40 50 years yeah yeah all the families been involved with the business at one time or another grandfather over on the wall Teddy over on the wall they were both County Commissioners and they were involved in the business at some time you know my brother Terry his wife will be here we all been in the world that really is somewhat always helped out one way or the other whether it was unless we used to get along in their own cars and loaded by hand or by sand we get cars and unload it with a shovel those days are long gone you know but thank God no we're in in uh we're just we're just glad to be able to still be here and we have about 22 employees now many many years yeah that's a trivia commute to our good things too Sarah oh you want me to speak absolutely you want to get three more minutes we just want to thank you for acknowledging our business and we appreciate it and it's pretty much I I personally I appreciate your family and I'm just San Antonio lumber for ever for 50 years so basically by the time Thomas been there this whole time but uh but it's been a joy to do business with y'all and your family and you've been a great asset for the community so thank you very much any other Commissioners like to say anything or good Mr Starkey I don't shop there I'm sorry you should come in we got a new store room but uh any any business that any business that can survive that long that's fantastic so congratulations commissioner Bradford I just want to say

congratulations to you I'm I'm only uh 34. so I uh I can appreciate the longevity in your business but well done thank you Mission Weightman [Music] um that's something unique to the business an adult that was pretty special and you don't get them from anywhere else well congratulations on 100 he has a tremendous accomplishment your family's done a great service for this County made it better and better so we greatly appreciate you and congratulations yeah the Commissioners have come down with me to take a picture and I'll present Mississippi thank you okay perfect thank you thank you and we have next resolution rs2 thank you is um someone here from the Nationals let's say National slavery and human trafficky prevention month even please come to the podium very good I will go ahead and read the resolution resolution number 23-048 a resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida declaring the month of January as National slavery and human trafficking prevention month in January 11 2023 as National human trafficking Awareness Day in Pasco County whereas human trafficking is a crime against a person whereby through exploitation an individual is compelled to work or engage in a commercial sex act that through Force fraud or corrosion thereby being stripped of his or her rights and Humanity traffickers typically use multiple means to control their victims including beatings rape isolation forced drugs alcohol dependency withholding of documentation and psychological and emotional abuse and whereas the international labor of organization conservatively estimates that there are over 49.6 million victims of human trafficking worldwide and that this crime is second only to the illegal drug trade in terms of the speed of its growth and the profits that it generates as human beings can be sold repeatedly and whereas human trafficking has been reported in all 50 states Florida consistently ranks third in the nation in the number of calls made to the National human trafficking hotline 3 587 cases of human trafficking are reported to the nhth from from Florida between 2016 and 2020 and whereas human trafficking is occurring in Pasco County through the Pasco County Commission on human trafficking our community has United to combat this horrific crime and restored dignity to Survivors by bringing together the sectors deem critical to effectively combating human trafficking such as law enforcement schools child welfare non-profits businesses faith-based organizations survivors Etc andraz despite these dedicated local efforts more awareness education and advocacy are needed to eradicate human trafficking every resident of Pasco County is called upon

to declare that the exploitation of people for profit has no place in our world and that we need to work together to restore Freedom dignity and just to all and whereas January is annually declared as National slavery and human trafficking prevention month in January 11th as National human trafficking awareness day now therefore be it resolved by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby declares January 2023 as National slavery and human trafficking prevention month in Pasco County Florida and that all citizens be encouraged to participate in education awareness and advocacy and prevention efforts to combat human trafficking done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 10th day of January 2023 move to approvement all in favor say aye aye okay Mr Stratford yes welcome I'm here this morning uh you know it's just unbelievable that we're talking about slavery slavery and human trafficking in this day and age and to know that it's occurring here in Pasco County it's just heartbreaking so I'm really glad that we're bringing attention to this um important um issue and everyone needs to be vigilant and um and keep your eyes open for someone who's being trafficked so would someone from your group like to speak foreign members of the board Brian Hoban director of community services I want to first take a minute and thank the board for the continued support for the Pasco County Commission on human trafficking this board is comprised of community members and subject matter experts that do a phenomenal job of combating human trafficking and educating our community I also want to just take a second to acknowledge and thank Tracy toner our misdemeanor probation manager she is our County liaison for this board and lastly just let the board know that we are very excited to have a commissioner as a new board member very soon so thank you okay um okay so take a photo before we go I know commissioner Oakley served for quite a while I've served with the board uh probably four not the last two but for the first four years I was on board and you've done a great job um in the eye opener to me that all that goes on in our community that I can tell you without your group and our Pasco County and community and surrounding area it would be worse than it is even though it's still something we've got to keep talking at working at to get done y'all done a great job and making a lot of Headway on doing away with human trafficking in Pasco County so I certainly appreciate that and all those uh I think it sometimes made national history basically out reaching out as far as he did with the things y'all carried on in the organization and been able to do against human trafficking job well done and commissioner Bradford who will be

law enforcement so okay that's all that's all okay Mr Starkey wow fast so I have one photo to share I was uh excited to go to my first inauguration I've been invited before but I've never gone so um uh and I was able to can see unlike the president of Publix and the speaker of the house so that's my friend Sarah and I um and I ran into a lot of legislators so I was able to do some lobbying um while there on certain things so that's good um I did um want to mention that um um okay uh you know we have this boat cover lawsuit going on I I went by boat to um the Hudson Marina yesterday for lunch and I saw some new illegal covers and I was kind of wondering where the lawsuit is on that something if you've had it off the top of your head um we are about to respond to their initial pleadings I I bring it up because um uh I have friends who are Commissioners in those counties that were affected by the hurricane and I was told that those covers Jack investigate this that they became missiles and damaged nearby boats one one home one boat owner had to go out in the middle of a hurricane and re-tie his boat because the metal punched through his boat and put a hole in it would start to sink and it cost him twenty five thousand dollars worth of damage to his boat that he has to pay for because when it's an act of God then your homeowners insurance doesn't kick in and and we saw this in Gulf Harbors when we had some some little tornadoes come through and someone's porch roof came off and damaged the roofs on my street two three blocks away the homeowners whose rooms were damaged by their screen porch they had they had to eat the cost the homeowners and so um even those boat covers that are legal cause damage to nearby properties also I'm getting emails on short-term rentals and I know it's been a bear to tackle but I think we have to face the music and do something because we have thousands and thousands and thousands of short-term rentals in the county and um that are unregulated because we just kind of turn a blind side to them so um commissioner chairman I just suggest that sometime this year we we have a workshop I talked to the administrator about this uh and deal with the bear in the room of short-term rentals and uh if I couldn't commission maybe we can even just do it on a regular agenda item that comes up on a lighter agenda coming up that we can actually have a discussion on it and allow a certain amount of time what do

we need to discussion but I think you know I tried to tackle it when I was chair at the Tec uh you know it's it's kind of strange we try and collect all the money um the bed tax but it's illegal so we're just in this area that we shouldn't be in and I think we might we need to do it right and I think with two new commissions it's a good discussion to have to get fully embedded on it as well and then I drove down 41 um the other day and uh I think I saw some new vehicle storage facilities that weren't there previously and I just want to say you know we passed that we did that moratorium and we passed the rules on the um dealerships and and we we need to get a handle on this and I I don't know how we're going to go back and enforce that but we need to have a plan that may have to wait till next year's budget but somewhere we have to start addressing the um illegal used car dealerships and storage facilities thank you uh commission Bradford I have a couple of uh I am's Mr chair first one's the appointment of Kaylee Cooney to the Pasco County Library Advisory Board a reappointment I should say after speaking with Kaylee the other day she's obvious she is very passionate about the public library system she's engaged on their board right now and she wants to continue in that board so we're going to read your pointer I guess we need a roll call vote for that or do a motion second lotion okay and we have a second uh no roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman District three commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five commissioner Mariano hi second item is also a an appointment it's to the Rod Lincoln to the Rod Lincoln to the Village of Pasadena Hills planning and policy committee I wish thank you I wish to uh reappoint Ron to the vo pH planning a policy committee Ron's experience and specialized knowledge has been a great asset and I'm convinced he will continue to serve the community well so I'd like to re-nominate him thank you for that okay district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman um District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariano aye okay one more appointment appointment of Sandy Graves to the commission on the status of women okay [Laughter] everybody knows Sandy yeah so anyway Sandy Graves is my pick for the uh for the status of the commission of status of women so yeah can I do a motion in a second roll call district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman

hi District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District Five chairman Mariana uh I guess uh the last one is uh congratulations we got a couple of pictures to put up we do what's two pictures there we go oh there you go there we go that's station 20 the groundbreaking for station 20. hey uh commissioner Oakley and the chair for myself we're there that's my first time speaking at the podium in the dirt that was uh my first round breaking that was good good for me and I got wise advice from uh commissioner Oakley he says don't screw it up so I didn't I didn't say that and so it was uh it I did want to do uh I wanted to thank all the past Commissioners for getting this funded and approved it looks like it's got is it going to be a great design and it's going to serve the citizens of Pasco County where is that one located that's over on uh little Ranch Road uh if you go to uh Shady Hills Road on 52 take a right going down a couple miles or so and then turn our little Ranch Road the old station's right there it's only two Bay okay this new station 20 will be uh four Bay and the each Bay is 90 feet long so they could hold um up to eight large fire trucks uh Park back to back okay so I mean I just want to add that part to it absolutely and I've got there yeah I've got the pleasure of uh I'll be doing my first get in the fire truck uh spending a uh shift with them it's on the calendar so I'm going to get in the trucks and do what I said I was going to do when I got elected let's find out all the all the jobs that men and women in our government do so I'm going to get in that fire truck so I just like to thank everybody for being a part of that but commission stocky again yes I forgot something are you done I don't want to take you I am done ma'am I forgot to mention and you'll hear about it again that the international Committee of the pedc is going to start an annual event called International Day well there's more there's more to it but I don't remember the full title right now but we will be celebrating our companies and our International businesses in the county and we will be recognizing them on February 21st in the in the at the blcc meeting in New Port Richey and then we'll be having a reception that you'll all be invited to afterwards um we you know we figured that this first year will be smaller but our our hope is to build it into a you know one or two day event um and and really celebrate our International ties thank you aye commissioner Weightman thank you got it today the library board she's been fantastic

board member for a number of years and that's really committed to our Public Library System uh some open it received a second two three pointers to the library board second okay and roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley aye District Two commissioner Weightman District 3 commissioner Starkey aye District 4 commissioner Bradford aye District 5 chairman Mariano hi okay commissioner thank you foreign [Music] I'd like to see that they have the same standards as our single family broadcast um just want to make sure that it's a quality product that these projects come into quality projects um I don't think you might be in the correct email me out here from a little jumbled up there's the name of it that came out last year uh outlining the requirements for a single family and staff is recognized that he if I can just want to build to our communities we need to you know the same money ground so I'm moving to a break from novel on this topic any entire support them to move into the night uh the same containers put filtering communities in their single family profit well commissioner Wakeman graduate brought it up um I was talking with the commissioner of administrator carvela I want to give you a pick out there Mike um about it just just yesterday and we did talk about that so let's have a little Dialogue on that if we could Mike had some great concerns that you wanted to bring up I'm gonna have Terry petos come and speak to the matter okay commissioner Weightman it was great for you to bring up today because today's the day we actually kind of a good discussion without going to worry about what's coming up for a Time clock so all right Mr pitos thank you thank you Mr chairman Antonio spitos Planning Development Department um so yes last year the board of County Commissioners worked with the development Community to craft a memo um a policy memo that would direct staff to include conditions of approval within a master plan your development zoning District that would regulate the appearance of or at least establish architectural monotony controls for single family detached houses and this was particularly related to the case for uh the if you recall the 40 foot wide lots that are often proposed and also the 50 foot wide Lots in any event we established the criteria in hand with the developer with the development Community brought it forward to the board of County Commissioners and some adjustments were made by the various Commissioners and then we issued that memorandum and since uh I would say March or April of last year we've been

implementing those conditions of approval in the mpuds um then there was a discussion at the August 24 Board of County Commissioners meeting 2022. in which uh I think was one of the first times that the bill to rent question uh was Rose uh from the dice um and so a similar draft memo has been worked on since then to begin to address the following subjects create a definition for what build torrent is establish similar architectural and monotony controls for that build to rent product because at the end of the day a bill to rent product is essentially a single a small single family home usually maybe 1200 square feet in size uh but it's an individual unit uh just very closely spaced with all the other units on the same property so establishing similar architectural monotony controls as we did with the single family detached units with a 40-foot wide Lots include site planning principles how to establish a BTR in you know how should it be designed essentially from a horizontal layout established Landscaping principles what kind of landscaping do we need to see in a BTR so that it's not just you know clumps of small housing units and then parking lots and then how it'll be applicable to mpuds and conditional use permits that might be issued for a built around community and applicability in euclidean rezonings as well and so that's kind of the draft memo that was put together back in August September of 2022 since I think about November the memo was has been shared with a few stakeholders in the development Community I have received some comments back but there is some anticipation that this memo is going to have additional conversation and here we are Commissioner Oakland yeah I think I brought that along because I live in a a state support team right now there are 50-foot lots and parking issues landscape issues I mean and are the houses up to speed bars the requirements for single-family homes because the worry is is not necessary now but 15 20 years from now what are these homes going to look like and where they go end up a blighted area because they're rental homes and no one's pretty much taken care of it so what what do we charge that rental company or those owners to take care of in the future so it doesn't become blighted so I think it's very important on that issue I also think we need to look at just 40 and 50 foot Lots in general that are not just for rent but also those homes we've we've got a lot in the flow that's coming to us if we're not careful we'll look like the back streets of a city of New York and places of that nature we don't want to look like that so we do want space and we're going to get a point we'll be saturated with these four inch foot lots

and they're not affordable homes so we need to pay attention to what we're doing in the future so we don't make them all like that so I don't think our County needs that you know commission Oakley is a great great comment to that because I tell you driving in today I specifically drove a different way where I can actually drive by a place that does have the 40 and 50 foot Lots just driving down the side so a series of homes and on it there were three vehicles parked on the street that couldn't have room in the driveway it's going to be a continual problem right I know we got at least one coming up today to hear to hear as well but I think we should look at eliminate the 40 and 50s we need to make sure the driveway length is going to be appropriate for a couple of cars to fit in because let's face it family starts out kids get cars there's no room and the intensity of a neighborhood where you don't have room to park or the kids can't have a place to ride their bike safely because you've got a truck blocking it from the sidewalk going by it is something that's a big problem and what type of County do we want to be we suffer right now in Regency Park and let's say Embassy where you've got homes that were built for small retired couples and now you've got families that have moved in and you can look at the yards that have cars parked in the yard way because there's nowhere else to go and it just is not what we want to see so I think this commission especially with two new board members it's time to like say okay what do we want to see for the long term and Mike as you mentioned oh as commissioner Oakley just did what happens in a few years let's say this Rental Community goes downhill and someone flips it to somebody else and all of a sudden they're not taking care of anymore or if they want to go flip and go back to a now they're going to go start selling the homes to convert them over which they could do the great thing is as far as having controls in there the rental committee maintaining it but what happens if it doesn't like an HOA doesn't have deed restrictions anymore we've seen what that does the name once foreign ER [Music] and uh his comments but this with the Bill of Rights that are under common ownership so they're treated you know they're made intend to fit multi-family so there's nothing in the houses that are gone they're not plotted to really leanings May 15 or the ability of the investment from whoever owns these things to sell and we have to sell over the whole world however they decide to protect their asset but if this board you know considers actually fighting meets community and holding them to the second single family is how I think they're going to be at the same building to sell Magic the whole family needed so that's true good job commissioner I've just started um asking more in depth um about

this subject and restrictions and I'm gonna 100 support the architectural requirements um also I'm looking at the next Metro product that's at 54 on the Suncoast and I don't know how they met the tree requirements um and and so what so do we do we allow them to just wipe out all the trees and pay into the tree mitigation trust fund I I don't know that that's such a good thing so I agree that we have to have some minimum Landscaping requirements um but as far as planning and unplanning when I talked to my son this morning who are pretty smart guys as far as real estate goes he said we are better protected in these when they're unplatted because it's under single ownership and therefore it's one company managing everything when you have companies like BlackRock and these other other ones that came into the county and bought up hundreds of homes and all these different neighborhoods it's a nightmare for us to hold them accountable for each individual homes upkeep I want to talk to you about getting the rental registry back under our view um but in a on in a bill for rent when they're unplatted it's my husband was calling them a deconstructed apartment complex and so uh I think we're safe for having them unplatted um we have one coming up this afternoon that's a little different animal with in homes for rent because they are building single family single family homes that look just like any neighborhood that is planted um so uh but they never sell but apparently they just build their inventory and just keep them and there's a lot of money behind that company but I agree with commissioner Weightman um we just need to make sure that these are good products that are getting developed and our attorneys can now weigh in on what we can do and can't do because I know there's some state law so well what I wanted to add was you may want to think in this discussion about the infrastructure for these homes because currently the road the streets that serve them are considered driveways or and parking lots like a multi-family apartment complex yeah that's just a park that's a self-parking and that's that's going to it's if you're if you're developing a sort of a single family to rent community you're gonna you're you the parking issues that you've experienced in in single family projects which has been a problem is going to be magnified if your widths of your of your streets is narrow uh is even further narrow because their their driveways are not and not meeting any kind of a street standard yeah so maybe you need some kind of Matrix on parking Bradford well this is one of those

subjects that I had an interest when I showed up uh and we have spent uh the last couple of weeks of studying this issue reading all the material that we can prepared by my staff and so huddled in the corner and trying to read all the memos so I guess the question I have is today today not the future but today the memo that we have done that we operate under right is is that how we are proving um projects for these discussions and revamping of the memo of understanding for the future is that where we're going where's where's the guide from our County government on what you think so the the existing memorandum that was issued back in March I specifically Exempted the bill to rent product type because it was multi-family and that memo was specifically geared towards single-family detached so technically speaking the existing memo is only aimed at single-family detached and therefore does not apply to this multi-family product type however in various conversations that we have had with Developers the question and concern has been raised about the appearance of the bill torrents and the the general concerns particularly as commissioner Starkey noted the tensions between parking and Landscaping in these products product types and so they have acquiesced to certain types of Demands and or cautionary statements from the Planning and Development Department to change their products a little bit to make sure that what they build is not going to be monotonous or what they build is going to include a healthy amount of landscaping Etc however there there isn't a clean directive yet to do that it's all sort of this is what the Planning and Development Department is experiencing these are the different uh narratives that we're hearing from the community from the elected officials Etc and then the Developers take account of that feedback and they make their various adjustments but there isn't a specific Direction yet issued by the border County Commissioners on the btr's Mr chair I think that the sooner we're able to do that and include all the different aspects of from from trees to parking to congestion roads to the public safety response sooner we get this done the better it's going to be for our County so I think we really need to make it a priority well let's let's draw back to one one at a time I think the Aesthetics is good I don't think there should be exemption from the multi-film to the regular let's put the same standards in place so we can if you can make that available so we can talk about even like today that would be good but let's talk about the 40 and 50 foot Lots clearly the tighter compact they are whether it be Rental Community or even other community

those yards are like so small for anybody to any kids to ever play in never mind parking never mind trees or any type of landscaping going on there and frankly if we set a standard to say we don't want to see any more 40s and 50s the market would adjust immediately they're going to say okay we can't we know we can't get 40s and 50s so we're not going to overpay for land which drives our prices and go further if we make a statement we're done with the 40s and 50s because of all the issues they've caused the word about the blight that's going to happen in 15 20 years that lets you deal with it right now before we have another another Improvement come before the board let's just eliminate the 40s and 50s and let's let's let them move on well I I would like you to consider concerned went to a matrix where we had percentages I think if you're coming in with say x amount of houses maybe you still allow a few 40s because that allows for some affordability and maybe the Matrix changes for you know let's say you have a hundred homes you know four or 40s 20 or 50s and the rest are 60s or something but if we don't allow any 40s we're gonna have a lot of people can't afford to live so we should allow some consider this okay consider this if you if you put a world county-wide thing of no 40s and 50s every land acquisition person that's going out there to work for whatever the bill the product is going to be they know they can only get so many units they know that already they're going to then put their value to it now in the market tells you units units units that's what the hell go by if you take the units and make them from 40s and 50s are gone now it's 60 plus you're going to make the adjustments happen financially so I don't think it changes affordability the affordability of I think a builder buying a piece of property is going to be whatever the Market's going to barely going to pay that's where it's going to go well I think what we're talking about is what's going to happen in 15 20 years like you like your reaction when I talked about Regency and Embassy how bad it is for those families and it's affordable housing they're all jammed in there but look at the yards they've got trees trucks I mean there's no trees there's trucks and dirt because people are parking in the yard because they have no other way to go so as far as affordability goes I think you change the market if you say his we want to be and I can tell you about some communities I know up north when they change to say we're only going to do acre lots of two acre lots that didn't hurt anybody well acre age I'm saying up North but what I'm saying is by changing it and putting a standard to it it didn't hurt the community

around it uh and then I want to talk about parking but commissioner Oakley has to say this uh you're talking about 40 and 50 foot Lots being affordable they're not those houses are not affordable I'm in a rent own and I pay 2400 a month for 1200 square feet this three bedrooms sure there's no room no room inside basically and no room outside I mean your backyards shoot probably at 20 by 20. I mean there's no room there there's no no place to really live so if you're expecting people to really live there like they do and some of our older homes that have bigger Lots it's not happening on that size line I don't know I don't know where we find how to change that but we can't keep doing it we're going to have these houses everywhere just like this no parking no yard to play in no Landscaping no architectural values I mean those I have to come with it but none of these are affordable we're talking about and we do need affordable so on the subject of affordability um and I think maybe I'll direct my staff to start looking into the North and some research I've been talking to some of the counties and I know that um that Palm Beach County so let me back up a little bit when we had dris development of regional impacts I don't know who here remembers who dris are 10 of that a few came in with the dri 10 of that had to be considered affordable housing when we went away with dris um the mandate to build affordable housing went away we do have the ability to put it back in we waive it right every time someone comes in there are counties who have put back in a matrix of say if you're coming in to build x amount of houses five percent or whatever it has to be considered affordable housing I truly believe we need to be looking at that and affordable housing can come in as a as like what we did in Longleaf with adus as accessory dwelling units a little apartment over a garage you know if it's a rear loaded product very easy to do or um Lennar has had a whole product that they were going to bring in in Wesley Chapel that had another a little granny flat added on to that side of the house um with a separate entrance I mean there's ways to do it that that it melts right into a community and I I think we should have that discussion and they'll say as far as the granny flats that idea I love that idea I think it's a great idea um because sometimes the seniors get a little bit older they don't want to put them in a nursing home they can't afford it or just don't want to go but if they're right night beside the family got their own entrance or a parking spot I think it's a great concept get a college student a boom boom they get a little more private so yeah those I'm perfectly willing to work with those that get in there but again back to 40 and 50 foot lots to what it's going to be for down the road

and like you say with affordability we we approved a bunch of Apartments we thought were going to be affordable too how'd that work out uh people are paying through the roof we are getting Class A Apartments not Workforce housing okay it's tough to control exactly what's going to go on but the bottom line is if you want to have 40 and 50 foot Lots around your your whole area if you think it's bad now with the residential issues of thinking with parking trying to measure me a renter and you have no place to park and you park where your neighbor's gonna park with you or the neighbor's kid can't go by I mean they say they say it's not going to work out great but the tighter you keep people the tighter is going to be and when the renters get pissed to homeowners that that combustion is is worth it I have some houses now these are the older houses so they're probably 50 foot 60 foots in holiday and in elfers 601 the whole front yard of the house is car car truck truck truck there's like six of them parked across the front it's horrible I've got one who I think is selling cars out of their front yard but they they cover them with covers it's right next to Fasano's tax tax office if you want to drive by there sometime on on 19th so they put a cover over every car so the whole front yard is cars with covers on them yeah I don't I shouldn't allow that just just for an example I'm talking to General we have a project coming this afternoon which we'll talk about in that time we'll discuss that a few times but they're coming for zoning so they don't have the zoning but the projects are 40 and 50 foot like the subjects where how is that already approved if we got to do the zoning after the fact was it approved for that project or the fact comes after we do the Zone because don't do this on them they can't do that project just in general let me try to get an answer for commissioner Oakley so Terry in a community project doesn't matter which one are they already approved for 46 foot Lots base based on their free application and all without zoning no the the approval comes with the zoning itself so nothing proceeds unless the board of County Commissioners approves it what what we generally see is plans that illustrate feasibility so this is what our layout can look like if we were to get this zoning approved right so they might come in with a concept plan for example or a yield plan as it's sometimes known in order to illustrate how many units they can fit in order for us to be able to calculate density and then report to the board and enable the board to make the decision that the board will make so it's it's not a pre-approval on the part of the Planning Development Department now some of these projects they do come forward with recommendations of approval because

there are these are projects that have are similar they have there's precedence in other words previous from previous approvals in other places or the projects meet Land Development code regulations and or are consistent with the comprehensive well they would have to be consistent with the comprehensive plan um and so based on that criteria there would be a recommendation to approve it but they're not approved only the board can approve them okay okay so so the one that came off was at Hayes Road over there with Collier that was a project was 40 and 50 foot Lots it didn't get approved so based on zoning I guess so yeah they would have gone to larger Lots in there that I think it would have been approved yeah that one was the night right right so commissioner William had a question first let me get them first commissioner Whiteman yeah I'd like to understand this maybe go to our consensus have a tight time foreign [Music]

than later yeah I was going to say let me let me speak to that if I if I could and thank you very much commissioner so I think it's important to know that that the planning and development department has been leaning forward on this both in terms of of working with developers in the absence of formal rules so you know Kudos kudos to them for for doing that I think we continue to work on this memo we I hear it it's a it's a priority so we we accelerate that it's important we talk to Industry about some of the issues that have been raised today because we do want to have at least try to build a consensus on that I mean I I don't want to throw a timeline out there but but I understand next board meetings probably too soon but perhaps the next board meeting after that we could probably have some things that are gelled enough that we're ready to have a discussion based on what we've heard today Community Aesthetics and as Mr Stein Snyder points out having the infrastructure in place is really the key because we can't go back in and build the roads the sewers and and and the size and character of the neighborhood after the fact and if if really what the point of this policy is to at some future date should should this become a polited how do you how do you reverse that and it's much easier to reverse that with the infrastructure in in place and so whether we plot or not to plot 40 foot Lots 50 foot Lots we can have those discussions but I think I think the important thing is the Aesthetics and and the infrastructure that that are in play and some guidelines so as these communities develop we can try to find a win-win so it'd be my suggestion that maybe let's let Planning and Development continue their process will accelerate based on the feedback we've we've gotten here today and we'll we'll sit with you individually maybe in two to three weeks on what we have found out and then figure out what our next steps are I got two things I want to say one on the 40s 50s 60s um so and I know we're doing a a revised Family Vision but I wonder if it's inappropriate to put 40s outside of where we wanted to direct density to seems to me it would be and our have we been approving 40-foot Lots where Maybe we're not trying to have the real deaths so um you know 54 corridors where Uli said to put density uh we we did for political reasons I think expand those some of those zones up the uh different highways a little bit but that's where it was 71 density but maybe we don't need 40 foots and in other places so that's one and two when I brought this up to my son and it's funny because I've had this discussion with Terry and with with other people um he's like you need to go to a form-based code welcome I am going to tell you I think our staff would love if we move to a form-based code and Terry you and I have had that discussion and

um can you describe what that is so that the other Commissioners can know what that what that is and I think would make everyone's life easier so a form-based code I'm trying to condense a lot in just a few short words a form-based code is a code that is more concerned with the form of the building the how much mass it takes up along a street Frontage for example versus the use that is on site and in a form-based code you're more prescriptive in terms of the design of the building and and saying that the building has to be yay high sit on a lot so by so wide must be set back or build to a particular line and those are the some very basic features of a form-based code and then what ends up moving into the building and this is mostly true for like non-residential structures but one ends up moving into the building is secondary of secondary concern um generally now there's different degrees of form-based codes but the the real key thing about a form-based code is that it is extremely predictable everybody can Envision what a particular neighborhood or a particular Street will look like developers know exactly what the municipality of the jurisdiction is looking for the community knows what to expect and the government knows what uh is ultimately going to get approved or not approved and so you're much more easily you're able to move through the process a lot faster as a result of that generally speaking for foreign based course so there's a there's a performative advantage to a form-based quote as well Brad would you add anything to that because I know you and I started to put you on the spot but I know you and I have talked about it too I've talked about Terry I've talked about it with you [Music] yes hi uh Brad Tippin uh Planning Development uh I I just reiterate what Terry said and and just kind of the emphasis there is that instead of us regulating what use goes in what place we're regulating the performance standards you can put something there as long as you know it's not making excessive noise for the Neighbors you know you set those standards and then it doesn't matter what use goes there and you focus on the design features and what you want the area to look like and as long as they can meet that they can essentially do whatever they want to do inside the building and it takes a layer of of the problems that we have trying to coordinate that out it creates very much so it creates a predictable uh design for people that are purchasing properties uh predictable designs for uh you know people that are developing properties uh and eases the the review process pretty substantially someone told me that Pinellas County just used form-based code in their new plan for Palm Harbor hmm

and a big success I don't remember who told me that yeah I don't have the details on it but that I've heard that as well that the form-based code has been used in various parts of Pinellas County and other parts of Florida of course yeah and my brother-in-law Frank Starkey he's been advocating for that for a long so throwing that out there are very good for us to consider looking probably not a bad conversation but something that concerns me a little bit sometimes sometimes you might have some code issues when you talk about noise it's hard enough to get a loud bar playing music at a certain time to get someone to go out there with the decibels are saying okay it's too loud turn the music down put something on they leave they gotta go put it back on again so to try to have code trying to monitor that I think it's going to be difficult the other the other fact you may come across is let's say you're going to allow a business to go into where normally be kind of more residential and maybe it starts out to be a smaller business and all of a sudden you get semi trucks dropping off supplies who's going to monitor that so I think it's a it's still going to be difficult to make that go away I think you may just create your not the set of problems I think when we have setbacks when you have allowances how long a driveway would be some some tolerances to that sight lines that we sometimes have out there that you need to look at those closers so be it but I'm willing to have the discussion but I want to caution there are there are things that you just can't say well could put anything there and an example of one that worked was as you drive into Fox Hollow Golf Club on the left hand side this industrial building is there doing work heavy duty commercial it was set up that way at the start of the MPD everybody knew it was going to be there and I've yet to see a single thing of any negativity from that building so that one actually did work so it could work you know Dr gills Lou free looks better they built Fox Hollow with that guy in mind and that thing was set up there haven't seen a problem never heard of never heard of any any issues with that so it could work but again I'm gonna be careful how we do it that's exactly that's a very good point you hit the nail on the head that that is the the main concern that you you hear with this type of of zoning in this this type of review that we would do uh however that's where the performance standards come into play we we articulate the performance standards for example our work has to occur indoors uh you know certain number of trips that can be generated types of trips that can be generated those types of things you can do in performance standards that if they're not meeting the performance standards you can shut them down so it creates a different different level so it's not somebody standing out there with a decibel meter you know on the roadside that's very difficult to do

right now but it does create you can create some some performance standards in different communities they can touch for different areas based on what that area is meant to be if there's something that's a little less residential going in a little more residential area you can change those performance standards a little bit so you can end up uh kind of handling a lot of that stuff so that it doesn't become the issue it's a kind of a complex thing to think about but we can certain certainly you know if you'd like to know more about it we can sit down and talk about some of those details I think we should have some come in and educate us that is very knowledgeable and show some examples of form-based code I know in my discussions with the planning staff of make their life a lot easier and I've heard that from people in the development community it's I think it might be a very good thing I mean I wouldn't mind looking at I know connected cities one of the things we tried to work on when they were coming in you want to have a business that could start in an area run the business in that residential area depending on what it was I haven't heard a complaint from connected cities anything going on there so maybe it worked there and maybe we could look at that as a model to go further where they could then grow in their business and I know it's early in the stages but again I haven't heard a negative thing in anyone anyone in Connected cities that's you know taking that approach yet so yeah we did kind of try to do that it was kind of a it was unique a blend of that to kind of put that into play so it does seem like it is working and it's something that we can certainly sit down I'm willing to listen to learn good okay all right commissioner Bradford Mr chair I think in our quest to be to discharge our duties which uh I'm still learning to do uh I think just one thing I do know uh is certainty is our friend we have certainty we don't have certainty in the stock market it goes up and down we don't have certainty in interest rates from the feds they make a they make a suggestion and the interest rate goes up all these uncertainty affects our markets when we have uncertainty on the board as we direct um our development community and how we build Pasco County I think the more certain we can to take away our responsibilities not to take away our decision making um power but ours if we can look at the neighborhood and say this is the multi-use project event that's going to go on this property and it's completely like the last three we did I think that brings a lot of certainty to Neighbors

to the existing residents that we have here and ultimately it's the balance it's our growth it's our existing residence so it's something we need to tackle and and I fully support commissioner Weightman and commissioner Starkey I look forward to being educated more in that process okay while we're on if you want to talk about MPGs now I actually before commissioner this is under your committee report is there anything else you want to discuss [Music] Ed directly experience but the concern that I have um and you need them right next door uh you know they look at like a major problem and Jim's phone this is a single family community internality what are we looking at here we don't want anything from your investment on their single favorites so it has turned back and and requested is a great place to make investment which is wonderful [Music] we appreciate that and I think the county administrators agreeing to move very quickly to bring it back to us not the next meeting but the meeting after and I think it's pretty Noble of that effort okay do we pay him overtime no we pay well though his time's our time I never read his contracts I'm just that I used one a discussion on mpds um is that impudes PDS yes in what context I mean I I the the team is making progress uh in terms of clearing the backlog you know I mean we did get some some very nice feedback from the Builders Association that the efforts of our surgeon and staff and the review of site plans and impudes is bearing fruit so we We are continuing to to make efforts uh to clear those backlogs but I am concerned that your efforts are going to burn out our employees and asking them to work a lot of extra time and we are sensitive to that and of course uh you know Sally Terry and myself are discussing ways that we can try to trim you know areas that we we don't necessarily need to necessarily be reviewing but more importantly we are stepping up recruiting efforts and trying to make sure that we are getting our our staff to full strength it's it's a very difficult employment Market but we we continue to try to be Innovative in in those respects and we have a conversation yes ma'am go I wanted to comment while Terry's up there um this morning um we had someone speak about um arterials and collectors you know the issue the issue that we

have with our transportation in my opinion is that we don't have enough connectivity so everybody has to go on the same roads if you look at downtown if you look at new forwards and um holiday and Tampa St Pete there's a million different ways you can get somewhere and so you don't have these backups but when we don't require our communities to connect to each other everybody has to go out on the same road and that's not a good plan yeah yeah so we need and we really really need to have more connectivity especially in a county that has all these big well fields and limited Mobility um got it gotta have the connectivity we're gonna be jammed on every single road if we don't have alternative ways through communities and I say um you're still still have Mr Kabbalah and attorney and the clerk about their own business yeah okay this is like there's a delight we're having this discussion um and as far as like the Aaron cut off road et cetera think about everybody hitting North from Land O'Lakes they get to 5241 how jammed up is that X yeah that and now we're getting we've got some great improvements going it's horrible you if you cut if you didn't have Aaron cut off how many more trips would you have going to the same intersection the more of those we can provide I agree we need to have them all every step of the way yeah more and we had a gentleman tell us one time that Aaron cutoff was not a cut off road yeah but it's been a cut off road my entire life a neighborhood yeah but it there were other ways to get around and you didn't have to go on there and cut off that would be even better and I think we will have one because it'll be coming through Connerton and it'll come across right so there's another road that you can go east and west on yeah Ridge Road will will terminate at that intersection yeah looking hopefully coming up that we're going to be taking from Ridge Road at 41 through Connerton all the way up to 75 which will then go all the way to overpass all the way to 301 and you'll have another road going across that could make a huge difference for a lot of travel speaking of that I was asked today where are we on the construction of the second part of the Ridge Road are there any plans yes so I believe and I can probably get a better update for you later this afternoon but you know our plans are pretty much ready to advertise we're working out some funding some funding mechanisms to see if we can't go to bid here uh in in late winter early spring of this year currently yeah over a fast Road it's supposed to be at at its opening on end of January is what I hear so that's good for that area very good all right so I'm going to just talk mpds from conversations uh that I've had with uh our team I want to make sure that when we're doing the advertising of the

signs which I know Terry's working on getting new stuff not only does signs need to be done clearly where people can see them and access them to go read them um coming in today on 52 there's one to the north of 52 and we talked about having these signs perpendicular to the road so you can see it driving by there's one in 52 when you come when you go back home it's sitting flat to the road you don't see it until you're past it pretty much and then um it's not what we've what we've said there should be a double-sided you can see in both ways coming to and from they're going to be bigger I don't know how long it's going to take to get them but we need to make sure that's that's going to happen quickly um when we do um meetings for for a community meeting I'm expecting and I think the the intent was of this board that we don't want to have neighborhood meetings to go by neighborhood by neighborhood by neighborhood if it affects a whole area that's all connected everybody in one meeting is going to be a little voice and listen to a presentation not divided up to divide and conquer all the way around um that we need to fix that and make sure that's clear people that bind an MPD there's a certain public Reliance on what they bought whether it be five years ago or 20 years ago 30 years ago it's all laid out to make a change like that as a monster monster move and it better be clear that everybody understands what was done before and we need to make sure we're having a presentation from staff they look at it um before you're going to have even the meeting for the people it says in our code a concept plan must be a competent it must be accompanied when the application's done and I need to make sure that we're going to stop making those steps you've moved on to Future land use and not mpds go back to TV so easy to get that out all right so anyway I'm I'm really trying to help the things on that one was the concept plan the way our comp plan is written the concept plan for a PD future land use is required during that submittal and at some point we're we've relied on the MPD rather than requiring the concept plan in the in the so I want to I want to encourage staff to look if you don't have the paperwork properly submitted just like at a regular permit application or something else if it's not done the way it's supposed to be done then you put the brakes on until it's done the way it's supposed to be done and don't feel forced just because you're getting pressure to get an mpu done if it's not done the right way then it's going to wait until it's done the right way and then it can proceed because there's a process and it's a

good process but if it's not followed any one of those steps is missed it causes angst amongst our people and we're here to represent the people we're the we're the final end is commission but we're counting on staff to make sure that things are going to be done the way they're supposed to be done so I just I just want to give you support that don't be afraid to put the brakes on if you're not getting something done the right way then take the power we're empowering you to make sure it's done the right way um everyone agree with that yeah okay um I'd like to say that uh Sally I greatly appreciate your work with Mr coning um you're supplying them all the information needs to kind of work with us to try to give us some ideas I appreciate the dialogue back and forth to improve our system as well he's very animated as we all saw but he's also very factual and he's working with you and I appreciate you working with him to help us improve the system and whatever ideas you may come up with I really appreciate that progress we've made and with that I'm going to talk to my committee appointments and I'm very excited about them did you finish did he did he so the way they got it listed here is I go next so I'm just going to find it changed it they did I think the chair ought to just do what he wants it yeah the new the new agenda they went this way so I'm just going to go along that way um so for the appointments um I'll pass them out let me pretty much this way when it cast yours to you but I'm sorry about your luck okay so uh on area on aging commissioner Bradford yep sorry commissioner Bradford canvas supporters all of us Department of Juvenile Justice circuit Advisory Board commissioner Bradford drug dependency drug treatment Court planning committee commissioner Bradford The Early Learning Coalition of Pasco and Hernando counties commissioner Weightman I think that experience with your children will show to help quite a bit uh government operations committee we're all on that Gulf Coast Consortium committee I will stay on that my ultimate will still be commissioner Oakley human trafficking committee commissioner Bradford Insurance selection committee will be myself uh I will be on the Pasco Economic Development Council commissioner Starkey will be on the Pasco Economic Development Council subcommittee International Pasco Fair Authority commissioner Weightman Pasco Hernando Workforce board commissioner Starkey I tell you there's a lot of interest in that but commissioner Starkey we're going to work on that ex-official

position to make sure as a commissioner position is going to be an appointed I think we're all supportive to what a great job our Workforce board is doing we support it and I'm looking for you as well as for me to kind of just make sure that we keep that intact yep to keep that local effect that we have if we have the opportunity and there will be some meetings coming up there will be some meetings coming up that everyone takes a look at that we can all participate in I recommend we all do property of value adjustment board commissioner Oakley and commissioner Weightman Public Safety coordinating Council commissioner Bradford restore act advisory committee I'll be on that and commissioner Waveland will be the alternate Springs Coast committee commissioner Oakley Tampa Bay area that's available right now we'll keep you on there for whatever happens happens uh I'm going to stay on the temporary Estuary program just because we've got so many things to work on between baffle boxes eventually I see that going to commissioner Weightman down the road but for right now we're working on I don't want to change that um tempeh partnership commissioner Starkey I will stay on the table usual planning Council I will tell you with all the resiliency stuff going I'm very excited to stay and keep that moving forward Tempe water I have commissioner Oakley and wademan tourist Development Council I will chair that and transportation disadvantaged local Coordinating Board commissioner Weightman underwriting selection committee commissioner Weightman and the Withlacoochee Trail Advisory Board commissioner Oakley yeah so I want to thank you all for uh giving me your feedback I think we've got a great selection it's not quite what everybody wanted but I think it's pretty close and I think with everybody's in the position they can do great service for the county that's perfect for me thank you as I had mentioned I going on the board of Naco um that's going to require some additional amount of my time um so we appreciate um commissioner Wakeman taking my spot on Tampa Bay water so thank you very much appreciate it no and you know commissioner Starkey you do serve Florida Association companies very well you're involvement there is definitely has an effect for us and gives us great information your your participation with nago's tremendous and it just helps when we go travel to have those connections in an extra leverage so I'm glad you're willing to lighten your schedule a little bit so you can focus on the new stuff that's just been handing your way too so congratulations on all that Mr

chairman yes if I can get two clarifications on your list okay uh canvassing board statutorily it is the Chairman's Duty unless they have a con unless you have conflict okay uh in the last several years we have not fielded a board member for that uh due to conflicts um these coming up municipals um unless you're backing somebody in a municipal race you wouldn't have the conflict of be of running or um so I would appreciate someone from the board being designated as the canvassing board member so at this point in time I have no backing so I'll take the position then if you want to do that that would be great okay uh and though I would love to be relieved of the responsibility the Pasco County Consolidated Justice information board where you have n a you had previously appointed the County Attorney okay rather than a board member and I still need an appointment if you wish me to service I would love you to start a problem so I will Point commissioner attorney Connelly's nice Jeff steinsteiner to the county Consolidated Justice info board okay thank you okay I thank you sir as always your details are tremendous okay from that we're gonna go to the County Administrator thank you Mr chair just a couple of quick items on the public safety front our correction center received rave reviews from the Florida model jail standards inspectors following an annual inspection the inspection team spent two days going in and out of the out of the facility and noted that high-level professionalism and positive morale by our team members the entire staff showed a high level of respect and maintained a professional demeanor and that the jail was managed in an orderly fashion and noise was at a minimum so Props to our to our jail team also on the public infrastructure the the Holiday Hills storm water project has has commenced so we're excited to see that come to fruition and finally Animal Services is reintroducing its trap neuter vaccinate and return program for feral cats so for those of you that have seen feral cats running around this program where we we capture those we stay neuter them and then release them back so kind of trying to stop the program I'm sorry to stop the cycle if you will so we're happy to to reintroduce that program that's all I have thank you Mr Bradford yesterday I was down in Human Resources Personnel myself taking care of some paperwork and a young man was there signing up for a correctional officer job here with the county so we sat down and talked and had a great conversation and uh won't share his name I don't do any of that but uh I said go get about 15 20 friends a year caliber and I know I know a place that I can use them so uh the words out there that let's get it done thank you commissioner we appreciate that support excellent yes

we do and County attorney I don't have anything I may have something this afternoon but uh right now I don't have anything okay and click conference thank you um I just wanted to point out to the board we have two Inspector General audits on the agenda they are filed in your noted items n128 and n141 in the past we've put them on consent but when we went through the peer review they told us to move them into noted items so I wanted to make you aware of those both of those audits were went very well one was the n128 was an audit of your is unannounced cash count audits we audited 11 change funds within your public service areas so included some libraries and some parks and there were some recommendations provided to tighten up some internal controls your team was wonderful they we just wanted to say thank you they had some great cooperation there was a wonderful professional courtesy and also good responsiveness so thank you to Kathy Pearson and her team for that and then um in end of 141 that was a follow-up audit from a utilities Warehouse inventory and out of that audit which was a year ago we had made some recommendations to strengthen some internal controls and your team did just that so on the follow-up you could check all the boxes they implemented internal controls to strengthen their procedures on that and again we appreciate their cooperation professional courtesy and also very responsiveness so thank you to Branford aduma and your team for for that audit as well and that's all I have thank you okay thank you um the next item I have here is for the sheriff's office I don't see anyone from the service office here no because no comments for them all right so I'm just going to give two more items which I didn't know if we have time for but I will now um I want to just like to say we had a great meeting yesterday with the Hudson Industrial Park it's the one located New York and Hicks Avenue I had a gentleman from New York come down talk about taking working with our local people with the property to go develop which could be some great jobs and some great opportunities that conversation went well they're going to work with us closely Mike I guess this is good for you and Terry the Hicks Road land that we need they're willing to you know donate or exchange it with us et cetera they're also willing to work with us to try to if we have some excess fill that we have on certain projects that we can get into that area to kind of raise that level up because it does sit down a little bit low uh could be beneficial for both us and then that'll be coming up in the near future and I did have another person talk about doing a community garden only larger scale in that Magnolia Valley area so they'll be working on this as well to kind of see if we can cut down the expense for our people and maybe even Supply better food for our

people all around and with that word Journal 1 30. [Music] Pasco County waterways and Wildlife depend on you to keep them healthy excess fertilizer grass clippings trash oil