09.06.2022 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Public Hearings)

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is good morning i would like to call to order the pasco border county commission nine o'clock meeting of september 6 2022 at this time silence all electronic devices and mutual microphones please rise for the invocation pledge oh merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts amen i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united of which it stand one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice madam clerk please call the role district one commissioner oakley here district two commissioner moore here district four commissioner fitzpatrick district five commissioner mariano here district three chairman starkey okay clerk will announce uh let's see we'll proceed with public hearings starting with p1 items pertaining to the 10 10 am bcc meeting will be heard at that time so p1 uh the publication for item p1 was published in tambay times on august 3rd 2022. okay and the staff will present good morning justin grant director of public infrastructure fiscal and business administration item p1 is pipa22044 resolution establishing the final non-avalorum assessment and adopting the final non-avalorum assessment role for the quail hollow municipal service benefit unit also known as the msbu public hearing coil hollow msbus created in 2003 as a maintenance msbu 2021 rate was 80 dollars and the quail hollow advisory board recommends that the rate remain the same eighty to eighty dollars and this will generate approximately eighteen thousand eight hundred eighty dollars for this unit to spend on maintenance staff recommends approval okay any questions for staff yeah all right anyone's the public like to comment on p1 there's no one online for this okay see nobody here to speak uh move for bruhl second okay all in favor say hi hi hi okay p2 item p2 was published in the template times on august 3rd 2022. thank you and p2 is fifa 22046 a resolution establishing a final non-app valorem assessment right and adopting non-adverb assessment role for the williamsburg west municipal service taxing unit mstu and williamsburg west msu was created in 1994 to maintain common areas the 2021 assessment was adopted at 105 per buildable lot the williamsburg west advisory board recommends the same rate as last year 105 and the total value of this assessment is expected to generate 24 465 staff recommends approval okay any

questions for staff anyone from the public like to speak to pete too you know online for p2 there's no one online for peach look for approval second all in favor say aye aye marshall carries and now we go to p3 item p3 was published in the tampa times on august 14th 2022 john bautista assistant director of solid waste and resource recovery this is resolution by the county by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida establishing annual disposal assessments tipping fees and other rates fees and charges for funding the solid waste disposal and resource recovery system as previously discussed the 747 staff recommends to approve okay any questions anyone in the audience here to speak to p3 so we have one gentleman signed up yes greg uh graham hill greg bramble would you like to come up to the podium and make your comments we'll need your name and address for the record my name is greg bramhall i live at 11 330 orange tree road date city in orange valley let's introduce myself i'm uh 16-year veteran i'm a 32-year electrician i've been with the pasco county district school board for the last 18. i lived up there almost six years um i just was looking for a little bit of clarification in these so excuse me if my dates and numbers aren't exactly accurate but i believe in may of 2019 there was an increase for recycling that was added to our bill and then i found out it was through the county the waste management had no control over that and i was just wondering why we're being kind of forced to pay a fee for a service that i'm not using and if this increase goes into effect how come there was no um option of opting out if i'm not using that service and i'm not it's not about the money it's about the whole principle of not using the service and having to pay for it and it's only 13 i think 11 cents every three months which i really don't care about but i was asking questions and i wasn't getting any clarification on why we're actually paying for a service that we're not using why we can't opt out that's basically my question and if we if we're not using service and with these increases why can't they apply that because we're already paying reserves for not using why can't they just apply that to the increases and you know give some people some breaks so that's basically it i was just looking for some

clarification yes i knew you just you just walked in so he was his question was he was asking about um the fee he was paying for recycling and you said it's waste management yes sir waste management says company so you probably need staff to come up and answer that question right here we have time for that shall we do that it was implemented in around around may of 2019 it was implemented it was like a 13 or something increase and it was for recycling and then when i called waste management okay here comes mr batista i answer yeah they'll be able to answer it for you okay so the the recycling bill is part of the solid waste or not of the solids but of the regular garbage pickup so it's included in the in the bill for waste management it has nothing to do with what we do but um uh yeah so it's all one bill you can you don't have to use wastewater you could literally take the garbage up to our facility to understand that but it's not part of it's not it's part of the total bill yeah separate recycling from garbage yeah if i could clarify really there's there's two two payments one is collection what this particular one is is actually the garbage facility and the operation itself collection you are not assessed for that is uh that is between you and a waste hauler or you can haul your your your garbage directly to the landfill this particular assessment refers to the the landfill operation itself so there they are they are separate the county only sets a ceiling for collection waste haulers operating kind of in a quasi competitive market where they can decide what to charge so i think that's the main difference you are paying them because they are your collection agency we we simply try to understand it yeah yeah think of it think of it as as there's their school which is where we are and then there's the bus getting to school collections of the bus getting to school we run the school okay is there anyone else who wishes to speak uh sir you'll have to come up to the microphone thank you we'll need your name and address for the record please angela ramer and that's william ramer and we live at 38 903 chase street and you've started charging per buildable lots we've always had just one our property was all consolidated a long time ago and now they want to charge per buildable lots but we've been there 30 years and he this is really putting a hardship on us um okay i don't know how that's calculated it i mean it's a big it's a really big deal so do you have one you have one um we have one

for recycling programs because us as residents recycling is good for uh ecology i agree but can we really afford it this is the concern i have i i wasn't living here four years ago so i wasn't aware of of the plan you had in place i just moved two years ago here but i moved from new hampshire where almost no recycling there and therefore taxes are kept as low as possible because if you cannot afford recycling maybe you need to look at the subsidies from other venues like state government federal government especially with today's administration and the federal government well as far as the subsidy goes we're trying to encourage people to do it because that will actually lower their um let's say fees down for down the road or may make it better for the county so we can maybe skip the last one or something but for right now the way costs are going we just don't know so we're gonna probably stick to the plan as we got it but welcome thank you so much um and madam chair yep um mr carbala you had mentioned the contract that we had earlier can you elaborate on that just a little bit because instead of waiting up until today until now when the contract expires and then we would have to have a rate increase over time when we were selling the electricity back to the grid we were getting more back would you be able to explain that a little bit and so they understand why we didn't wait until now and we didn't incremental time over several years so the general structure of the power purchase agreement with duke is more of a backloaded type contract so you receive very little at the front end but larger payments towards the end which is what we are enjoying right now we have been we've spent the better part public infrastructure spent the better part of the past two years trying to renegotiate an agreement as the board is aware we renegotiated agreement uh with tampa electric uh for for the purchase of of some of our renewables above what is referred to as a standard offer contract so the standard offer contract is is literally pennies it's it's technically a cost avoidance on a coal powered facility um which which really in in the day and age of renewables and natural gas doesn't necessarily make sense for us but um those those contracts help us sell our power at a more favorable rate and and get it uh you know get the the money that that it deserves um it will never pale in comparison just because we lack the distribution infrastructure to sell it directly that would be preferable but we have to go through third parties and and interchange so i i just so they understand yeah so just so they were understanding we're actually receiving a lot more right now when we sell it back to the grid and when it's time to renegotiate we're not

going to get as much information yes at the end but we're not going to get as much as we were getting so we need to offset the cost instead of offsetting them all in right now or back then we would decide to do it incrementally correct we're trying to plan ahead big tax burden okay we have one more gentleman raise his hand do you still want to speak to us morning uh yeah my name is timothy o'donovan sit sits 3-0 16th street in zephyr hills uh last year i had a dumpster took off my property back in december 2020 and so they sent me a bill for 157 i paid that in 2021. now we're in 2022 and i got a bill of 612 dollars i signed an appeal it was just a small dumpster i own an air conditioning business for 31 years and so hopefully the pill goes through and somebody will contact me i contacted the county they said do the pill the pill was great i did it on the computer typed it up and uh so where does the process go from here uh since i can't go in do i have to drive to newport richie to the pill they said they were going to come out to my property look at everything make sure i'm not using a lot of waste because i understand last year i just paid it i've been paying it since 2007. i got a little dumpster my landlord said go ahead and we were getting too much stuff i rent a place at 483 dine allen road and uh she said well you're putting too much stuff in the dumpster you need to get your own little dumpster you can still use this dumpster and use yours kind of offset it with the other tenants i did that i've been doing it in 2007 but now i'm getting close to 60 years old i'm not doing as much as i used to so i took my dumpster off but now i get a bill for 612 so we have someone here that justin might be able to help him do you want to do it outside the door or do you want to absolutely yeah yeah we can work with our commercial assessments group okay so if you want to sit outside okay we'll help you out all right is there anyone else that wishes to speak during public comment on p3 all right can you come up to the mic please name an address i think this is a record my name is larry baudry and i'm from sleepy hollow motor estates in zephyr hills i'm here trying to get some information for the park the the people who are in the park are

it's a 55 plus most of the folks there are in their 70s 80s some 90s and my question is actually it's twofold and i'm sorry that i came kind of unprepared but it was one of those things he got put on me the last moment first question is is there a way that the park could be well i'm not sure of the word uh not involved in the paying or the rate increase because of the median income that's in the park and the second question is um we are paying individual for garbage pickup but yet the park is also paying for garbage p pickup aside from what we pay as individuals and i just would like some clarification on those two things um well that may i think we can have staff educate on on how the assessment is paid and formulated and the difference between collection and landfill costs so i'll i'll have someone meet them outside but i also wonder too if there's a way to look at their park and see if there's a cheaper way to um collect their garbage if they have one dumpster my guess is they're not generating a lot of garbage yeah i'm sure that's going to be whoever their collection company it's a collection issue yeah that's a i do know that there is a recyclable dumpster and two garbage dumpsters but i'm just wondering why as individuals we pay for their service and then the park pays for the service over and above that that's one of the things i think election collection versus versus disposal correct so you're paying your you're paying your hauler for collection you're paying this assessment to deal with that waste when it comes in okay but he's saying that the citizens in his neighborhood are paying but also the park is paying attention that's right they're they're paying they're each paying an assessment on their tax bills for disposal oh i thought he meant additional tools but but they're paying their the park is paying for the collection can i ask you a question does each um unit have its own trash trash can in front of it uh each unit is being picked up by the park okay well then you have trashes you have full service yeah and as far as the rate increase is there a way that the park can be i don't think so no yeah it was worth a shot it was a good try and you represented your community well okay is there uh is there anyone else

that wishes to speak okay so you know when it's to the board is there anyone online that wishes to speak there's no one online for this message is this a roll call vote or not no all in favor opposed okay we are now finished with our morning agenda we will adjourn and see you back here at 10 o'clock so i came bellamy [Music] so [Music] so [Music] excess fertilizer grass clippings trash oils and pet waste wash into gutters and storm drains when it rains storm water carries these pollutants directly into our lakes and rivers creating an unhealthy environment for fish waterfowl and other aquatic animals storm drains are meant for clean rainwater most other discharges are illegal if you suspect an illicit discharge please contact pasco county department of public works at 727-834-3611 [Music] you