08.09.2022 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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good afternoon and welcome back to the pasco county board meeting please remember to silence your bones um we are now am i back on we are now going to proceed with a public hearing starting with ordinance p 82 item p 82 was published in the tampa bay times on february 2nd 2022 okay madam chair commissioners denise hernandez planning and development item p82 is pdd220068 this item was advertised as a continuance to the october 25th 2022 board of county commissioners meeting at 1 30 in newport richie okay can i take a motion to continue second on favor aye no you're gonna mess me up um okay uh so we vote under discussion oh i apologize um this actually yes we did actually off hot off the presses we did receive this request hot off the presses to a date uncertain the applicant will re-advertise the the item okay here it just doesn't say a date did we just say a date yeah she she and i did state a date okay it's actually a date uncertain that the applicant okay p83 item p83 was published in the template times on july 6 2022. all right so as my powerpoint is coming up this is the first reading on this item this is pdd pdd220454 it's an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners amending the pasco county land development code chapter 1100 special development standards section 1101 vehicle dealerships and other sections as necessary for internal consistency consistency providing for applicability repealer providing for severability inclusion it's a land development code and an effective date the reason why we're here is because on march 8th the board of county commissioners adopted a temporary moratorium on the opening or establishments of vehicle sales businesses there were some concerns including overstocking of vehicles on site and those were causing safety concerns staff studied the issues and met with stakeholders our first meeting was on april 13th and our second meeting was on june 8th of this year the proposed ordinance before you clarifies the applicability of the section it breaks down the section into the following uh general standards for sites approved or established prior to january 25th 2005. the reason for that date is because that's the first time that the vehicle dealership ordinance was established in that section the changes are just generally cleanup language and that cleanup language is mostly resulting from the type that change the type h buffer as you may remember the type h

buffer used to be a 75 foot buffer now it's anywhere between 20 and 40 feet and that was changed in amendment 55 the board adopted that on may 3rd of 22. then the next section is additional design standards for sites that were approved after august 25th 2022. the reason for august 25th 2022 is because the this item is expected to be adopted on august 24th so that's just the day after the adoption um for that's why that that date was taken so um to break that section down there's a section on employee and customer parking there's a one of four methods that can be chosen there's also a vehicle inventory and vehicle storage section that basically allows surface level inventory that calls out surface level inventory and display combined with ground floor of area of buildings and structures to not exceed 50 percent of the developable acreage vehicle inventory and vehicle storage cannot occupy required parking spaces vehicle inventory and vehicle storage cannot encroach into the right-of-way landscape buffer wetland upland buffer or drainage pond it has to be delineated on site plants and then there's also allowance for triple tandem rows or quadruple tandem in certain instances there's also requirements for pedestrian connectivity then there's the next section is basically standards that may be used by vehicle dealerships whether they were approved prior to or after august 25th 2022 these are all landscaping related as we were talking to the um and i want to say thank you commissioner starkey for bringing the stakeholders together as we were speaking to the stakeholders they were basically stating well some of the trees that you require could damage our vehicles because they might you know release some some pollen or fronds or whatever so there's standards that may be used in lieu of the standards in 905.2 and 1102 which include outdoor display and buffering standards and that recognizes that certain species of shade tree may create hardships for vehicle display areas allowing the substitution of understory trees for shade trees also for parking island landscaping recognizing that certain species of shade tree may create hardships allowing the substitution for understory trees for shade trees so these items were presented to the horizontal round table interested parties meeting on june 15th and july 20th of 2022 and they were presented to the local planning agency on july 21st 2022 who found the request consistent with the pasco county comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board of county commissioners today there's no action required by the board we're just asking that you accept public comment the this item is scheduled for adoption on august 24 2022 at 1 30 in newport

richie and i will say that that is before the 180 day temporary moratorium expires so we did or are trying to meet our promise to you yes and board members we've had numerous meetings with you know larry morgan scott fink um with um rich baker with furman's we we've met with all the dealerships and we included a representative from the used car dealership um world to make sure we were hitting the new car dealerships and input from the used car dealerships and and i think we've done a great i think you've done a great job i do want to also extend a big thanks to brad tippin who was instrumental in putting this together and also a gratitude to elizabeth bellaire from the county attorney's office yeah this is such such a big improvement and you know requiring 75 feet of buffering and kind of a suburban urban setting in many places was just way too much and um and changing some of these rules for the trees is good and um but you know we don't want the dealers parking cars in the driveway and if you've seen these many of these used auto dealers where um you can't even walk onto the onto the property never mind park a car um it's just was out of control and we really needed to to get some rules in place so i'm very grateful for this there's no action required it's public hearing so we don't have to vote on it but if anyone here in the public wishes to speak um now is your time i have no one signed up in person or on webex okay well thank you very much we'll um hear this again when this will be august 21st 24th 2022 at 1 30 in dave city okay thank you very much all right so now we're on let me keep my notes here now we're going to the addendum and we're going to p176 item p170 p176 was published in tampa bay times on may 18 2022 i don't know if i've ever been at a meeting where we went to 170s all right we're actually going to 180 today so interesting day if i would clarify the past one one of my colleagues said i said date city it's august 24 2022 at 1 30 in newport ridge okay i thought sorry about that thank you okay 176 176 is the amendments to chapter 18. on florida building code who's reading this one the two two bcs items where's the site i know i didn't have it in my book so that's why i didn't want barbara schedule here um so do i need to move do okay looks like sally is going to present this up and also the following one is that

correct this item is asking for continuous to our august 24th hearing um chapter 18 is going to be considering items that are going to be considered as a part of the land development code section 1104 so it was appropriate just to continue that to hear at the final hearing when you consider both items okay so i'll take a motion to continue 176. second all in favor aye aye all right all right uh 177 item um ap 177 was published in the tampa times on may 18 2022 177 we had got an approval for continuance from the prior hearing this item is to be considered today for the first reading only and it will have its second adoption reading on august 24th 2022 so it will be heard today okay who's presenting esther's good afternoon chair and our board members i'm representing the ap 177 that is the chapter 11 that's bcs 22 0270 my name is cecil b director building official for pastor planning amending land development code section 1104 flood damage prevention uh we're here before you this afternoon uh next slide please and the next one this is to amend the level no for flood ordinance pasco county has been the the strategic plan that was just approved in october 2021 the goal 1.1 of it is to promote and participate in the national flood insurance program that being said pasco county has been a member of the national flood insurance program since november 18 1981 and the purpose of this membership is to allow our citizens to purchase federally backed flood insurance and also nestle we've been a member of the crs the community rating system since october 1 1992. the purpose of the community raising system is to allow us to get a discount for our citizens right now we are a we are rated six and with that we have 20 percent discount for our citizens and um this afternoon we are presenting the flood zone map that has been approved by fema since june 2020 we want that to be adopted locally and in in so doing we want to give you the overview of where we are as accounting yes we are crs class six premium discount is 20 and we have roughly about 20 000 policy older 1901.5 as of 2021 and for these are citizens we give them a savings of 3.1 annually due to

our reading as a six next flag this slide is showing us what it could be and what it is and where we could get to if we don't have discount a residence in their coastal vision and more insurance is about eight thousand dollars with class six rating as of today they get a savings of about fifteen hundred dollars annually and if we are able to get to a class five they will get a savings of almost two thousand dollars uh anybody in zone a gets us off today a savings of about fourteen hundred dollars annually and if we get to to class five they will get a 1289 savings in in the insurance in their flood insurance why are we here there is a mandatory regulations that fema is putting out that if we don't adopt we will automatically fall to a nine a class nine and that means zero discount for pasco county citizens there are four bullets on this major requirement number one is to adopt the new female flood insurance map that is already adopted and approved and in florida building code since june 2020 the second bullet is to eliminate the 36 inch option for manufacture homes the third one is the wet proving of large agricultural structure that means any structure that is over 600 square foot and the fourth one is to standardize the use of market value that is for private appraisals so i'm going to take it one by one to explain what i mean number one is the flood map and adopting the flood man into our local ordinance is a formality it's already in the florida building code so whether we adopted it or not we're still enforcing it as a county and number two is to eliminate the 36 inch option for manufacture home this is to maintain our class 6 reading if we don't get this this bullet pass we will automatically go to a class 9. the smaller the better when we go to the higher number that means uh the discount that we get gets smaller a nine is a zero so uh the third bullet is that of wet proving a large agricultural structure this is in the female bulletin that is already in existence that means any large agricultural building that is over 600 square foot if you go to the next slide you will see what i mean ordinarily they will have to raise these these structures to a bfe to a base flood elevation but now fema is saying well you can wet proof by just providing those uh openings and once you have the flood openings the water can come in and out of these

structures without having to elevate them the fourth point is standardizing the use of of appraisal in flow zones that is the use of the market volume there are two options to evaluate structures in flood we can use the property appraisers recommended uh what is on their website plus 15 or you can get a private appraisal to give you a level of what you have but with the private appraisal now this is standardizing the use it's not comparison it's the structure before improvement is made and and this is for just solely for private prison this is what this is about so the next one regulatory changes these changes is not mandated is not required we are bringing this forth just to be able to solidify our sixth reading uh we are angina to a sex by a trade so by bringing this forward also this also benefits our citizens this is what we get almost at least once a week we get a complaint about this and this is the non-conversion agreement structures that is the number one structures that are in v zone in velocity zone that are on pilings the lower level can be used for storage and uh most of the time is is non-occupiable so what this is saying is we want to have a non-conversion agreement with omono that they will record this uh with the dates that this lower level is non-occupiable and this is giving the next homeowner a heads-up that what you're buying the lower level is non-occupiable that is the first one the second one is the critical facility the critical facilities is a definition that has been approved by this board since 2003 and is in the definition of the land development code but we want to bring it into the body of the code and what this is saying is when visible and this is when visible not to locate critical facility in velocity zones and for instance there are definitely times that this will have to be if you have a police station and there are enough people in that area that really needs to have a police station absolutely it will be then we just have to elevate it to be a fee plus two feet so and this is close to yes in in velocity and for critical facilities but what we're saying is we want people to explore is there a possibility of not locating it in velocity zones foreign another example is a nursing home if you have a nursing home that is

in velocity zones and now the during hurricane they have to be evacuated i mean most times they will have to go to shelter going to shelter they might have people that are not skilled that is now looking after them having caring for them so if it is possible not to look at it in velocity zone and this is what the section is about so um now is the first reading no action is required it's a public comment the adoption hearing will be august 24th in newporiti any questions okay um thank you i know you guys been working hard on this um this is uh a public hearing and we can take a comment from anyone here wishes to speak are you wanting to bring something up anthony that wasn't touched on mr chairman we just have to read in the advertisement for this item is that correct i'm sorry should we read in the advertisement as written for the presentation i don't think you have to read the advertisement and yeah okay okay thank you okay um um board members any questions um i'll wait for public comment then i'll comment at least one person that wants to speak mr oakley i thought the east side would be uh following the rules for the agricultural buildings i don't know um you know having to do the wet what do you call it wet flood proving wet flood proofing hopefully they're all aware of what's coming that's for structures over 600 square foot yeah yeah a lot of people okay i see um we might have someone for public comment barbara will height 6327 grand boulevard newport richie on my own behalf i don't represent any clients i've kind of taken this on for years as a labor of love to make sure that as we change and update this particular ordinance that we don't have unintended consequences that actually sets the county back so i have been my partner in crime has been john moody and him more on the technical side and teaching me the things that i have learned and we have skimmed through this in detail and staff has spent many hours with us there's i think the critical facilities i understand the explanation that was made i did have a question about that but it looks like that's just going to apply in the velocity zone which makes sense so if it gives you any comfort that you've had a couple people spend hours and hours and hours on this with your staff to just make sure that there aren't unintended consequences the leadership has been outstanding you know from the beginning when i raised my my

hand at the horizontal round table and everybody in the horizontal round table were like oh please just go away staff has taken our input as collaboration and not as an annoyance they've treated us like partners and uh so i can bring this you know stand up here and say i think we've you know not that we're perfect but i think we've we've got all the entertaining consequences out of the ordinance and you can move forward your staff can move forward to their fema audit and we should be in a pretty good place yeah and i would echo what barbara said barbara and john worked diligently on this and staff i've had multiple meetings with staff on this and i also called other builders and folks in other counties and i've talked to many commissioners from other counties about this so i feel pretty comfortable with what we're proposing today commissioner mariano yeah madam chair same thing um staff has been very good working these things through the points were brought up you made the changes that need to be changed so we're pretty much modeling what the state and feds have done we don't want to put any extra burdens on our people either at the same time stifling uh redevelopment up along the coast as well so i think staff's done a great job barbara thank you to john the other folks that were in the in it as well to make sure we got this right those last two things are just no to changes that aren't necessary but they don't do any harm and one probably helps our citizens understand yeah what what what their ramifications are too yeah i'm comfortable with it okay so there's no action today it's the first reading exactly so yeah so what anthony was trying to do i think is read the title of the ordinance into the record not the not the advertising so let's let's get that cleaned up thank you so much okay board an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners amending the pasco county land development code section 1104 flood damage prevention to bring the county's flood damage prevention regulations in line with the model ordinance approved by the federal emergency management agency and to coordinate with chapter 18 buildings and building regulations of the pasco county code of ordinances amending the land development code appendix a definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency incorporating fema's most recent flood insurance study for pasco county establishing areas of special flood hazards recodifying building official to perform analysis for building permit applications on structures within flood hazard areas and providing method process for such analysis requiring signed declaration of land restriction non-conversion agreement

for projects proposing to enclose areas under elevated buildings certain crawl spaces and certain accessory structures recodifying county approval for letters of map changes to fema recodifying encroachment development and fill on properties within floodways adding and or recodifying restrictions on location of critical facilities detached structures mobile home manufactured homes rvs park trailers tanks decks patios and other development in floodways recodifying fema guidance publications and technical bulletins by reference changing variance procedure from planning commission to hearing officer process requiring data to be provided in areas identified as sheet flow and ponding providing a variance process for certain agricultural structures additional specification specific findings required for variances providing for or amending the following definitions accessory structures agricultural structure critical facility declaration of land restriction non-conversion agreement existing manufactured home park or subdivision expansion to an existing manufactured home park or subdivision flood hazard area historic structure letter of map change lomc market value new manufactured home park or subdivision and trailer and park trailer park model providing for applicability repealer providing for serveability inclusion into the land development code and an effective date all right thank you and i i did have one last question i i didn't get this in my book for whatever reason so i i am looking at all these addendums online i had asked at our last meeting that we'd be referring to the florida building code specifically did that make it into here where applicable we say did that make it into the ordinance and those lines that we talked about in my meeting because i i don't have any of my notes here with me yes ma'am i got in late night yes was chair yeah okay all right any other questions so in lieu of the motion that's within your agenda package the motion for this would be accept public comment what you've done no action is required by the board of county commissioners as this is the first of two public hearings the second hearing the adoption hearing will be held on august 24th 2022 at 1 30 pm in newport richie right okay okay thank you very much so now we are on to 178. item 178 item ap 178 was published in the business observer july 15 2022 july

22nd 2022 and july 29 2022 and august 5th 2022. good afternoon denise hernandez ap 178 this is an item that you will be adopting by roll call vote it's an ordinance establishing the deer brook community development district pursuant to chapter 190 florida statutes providing for authority and power of the district providing for powers and duties of the district providing for the board of supervisors of the district providing for the district budget providing for functions of the district providing for miscellaneous provisions providing for an effective date pdd220510 we're asking that you adopt this ordinance by roll call vote um okay does anyone wish to speak to this item seeing no one it's a roll call vote and i just want to put for the record there's no one on webex for this item okay [Applause] motion to approve no no okay yeah all right give me a second all right we'll call vote district one commissioner oakley all right district two commissioner moore all right district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano district three chairman starkey aye 179 same procedure guys item ap 179 was published in the business observer july 15 2022 july 22 2022 july 29th 2022 and august 5th 2022. this is pdd220511 on this item we're asking you to approve by roll call votes an ordinance establishing the palmetto ridge community development district pursuant to chapter 190 florida statutes providing for authority and power of the district providing for powers and duties of the district providing for the board of supervisors of the district providing for the district budget providing for functions of the district providing for miscellane miscellaneous provisions providing for an effective date okay um does anyone wish to speak to this item we have the seat we believe we have the cdd council online but we don't know if he wants to speak okay hold on just a second one second we'll unmute you if you're good support you might want to be quiet we might and we might have been elevated can we elevate the um person online he's good okay thank you eric he's over there i still have to okay you should be good to go okay thank you can you hear me okay i cannot hear you sir oh look i see it's still muted no that's ours oh are you at support where you go uh i'll accept a motion ma'am just for the record so we had one of the reasons i think mr earlywine is is on webex this is 179 so we had somebody sign up mr parks is not on webex

was he in opposition we don't know oh we don't know okay well no one's here just you so we're going to proceed is there anybody in the public that was just that's in chambers that wishes to speak or forever hold your face okay i'll take a motion second um roll call vote district one commissioner oakley all right district two commissioner moore district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano aye district three chairman starkey aye okay 180. thank you item ap 180 was published in the business observer on july 15 2022 july 22nd 2022 july 29 2022 and august 5th 2022. this is pdd220512 on this item we're asking that you adopt by roll call vote it's an ordinance establishing the whisper and pine community development district which pursuant to chapter 194 statutes providing for authority and power of the district providing for powers and duties of the district providing for the board of supervisors of the district providing for the district budget providing for functions of the district providing for miscellaneous provisions providing for an effective date all right is there anyone here that wishes to speak to this item is anyone online no one's online for this item um i'll accept a motion motion to approve second uh roll call vote district one commissioner oakley all right district two commissioner moore district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano aye district three chairman starkey aye all right now we are on to p84 madam chair on this one um as i understand it p84 and p 96 will be heard consecutively can i go ahead and do the publications on both yes and let's the the attorney doesn't have to stay with us if he doesn't want to bye okay so item uh p84 was published in the tampa times on january 5th 2022 and item p96 was published in the temple times on january on june 22nd 2022. okay good afternoon amy heiler with planning and development uh item pdd22-0020 is a comprehensive plan text amendment this is the adoption hearing for cpel 2125 cross park pd as you see here this is the lo the subject property which is located in the south market area it does look like we're missing a slide um for this one so i'll step back just quite a bit on this one you are as i said adopting the proposed amendment so i'm going to go ahead and read the ordinance into record an ordinance amending the pasco county comprehensive plan providing for a comprehensive plan text amendment to sub

area policy flu 7.1.11 cross park pd and providing for additional text amendments is necessary for internal consistency providing for a repealer severability and an effective date um so as previously stated this is the adoption hearing for that the proposal applicant is proposing a text amendment to subarea policy flu 7.1.11 to change existing alf rehabilitation assisted living facility entitlements to multi-family residential commercial uses the location is at the southeast intersection of state road 54 and henley road approximately one mile west of landa lakes boulevard the resolution to their proposal is to amend this the sub-area policy as previous previously stated and there is a proposed substantial modification to the existing cross park master plan unit development accompanying this project so these are the following policies that that the proposed comprehensive plan is consistent with the general location as stated is at the intersection of state road 54 in henley road approximately one mile west of landlakes boulevard the existing future land use is pd flu which allows for an assisted living facility and rehabilitation commercial and office uses and as previously stated the applicant's requesting to change those entitlements to multifamily and office retail so here is the master plan that has been provided as you can see there's two access points one off of henley and one off the state road 54. secondary access for emergencies off of henley go a little bit deeper into the master plan so the portion along the frontage along 54 is proposed for medical and professional office they are proposing 45 000 square feet in this general area and the multi-family which is proposed set back from state road 54 and is buffered by the non-residential uses which is supported by policy directive from the board this area is going to be proposed mixed-use multi-family with 280 dwelling units uh 10 000 square feet of non-residential which 5000 of that non-residential square feet will be vertically integrated with the multi-family and then the rest of the 5 000 square feet will be located along the um frontage of state road 54. and with that we recommend that the bcc approve the proposed amendment and adopt by roll call vote if you have any questions on the plan amendment i'd be happy to answer them okay board members any questions well madam chair mr moore they must know my opinion i'm just trying to uh make a decision on uh we're gonna hear it's 96 right after this yes correct

you know again going back to statements are made on multiple occasions and i don't know how many occasions along 54 or 56 or anytime we change a zoning and um to for example multi-family when we're going to lose job creating sites it concerns me it will continue to concern me whether i'm sitting up here uh or i'm a citizen out in the like i'll be soon so i'll still have those concerns and continue those concerns so with that i'll be voting now okay um anybody else have any comments all right um is this a public hearing would anyone um here like to address p84 okay hi elise batsell on behalf of the applicant live development um just to follow up on commissioner moore's comment um we did do a job creation analysis and did submit that into the record and if i'm recalling the number correctly because of the 45 000 square feet of medical office as well as the additional retail that we're providing we are increasing the jobs by 76 based on what was permitted before and what we have now um if you have further questions for the applicant please let us know and just as a quick housekeeping item i think amy mentioned a different number it's sub area policy 17 just for the record okay and i've driven henley many times i'm pretty sure there are there's no industry down henley it's all residential so you've got the industry up at the front because right across the street is stanley steemer and i think there's a church yes ma'am um and we'll go into more detail we're happy to put a more uh descriptive site plan up if you'd like we also have the three levels we can show that a little bit more in the next um presentation but we just don't want to be duplicative with your time yeah okay so um yeah thank you um because this is in public this is the applicant so yeah so make sure we're on the same page here um okay you said you did it economically you said you did an economic analysis analysis of some type when it comes to the jobs it's included in this presentation and i'm sorry amy says that the analysis is the build out of the proposed sub area policy would render 93 jobs i said 76. yeah i think that's one of the things one of the things we were kind of debating you know last time around with you know okay if you're taking some of this and adding additional office you know compared to what you were previously um is it still more jobs again you know i you know naof is one thing but a nursery home's another right there's more jobs um in a nursing home than there's an alf that's just that's a fact of the matter it's going to matter how many beds you

have as well in that alf or um in that nursing home you know so i guess that's a question to be asked too we don't know that right because you don't have a user you don't have somebody that's coming in to say i was going to build a 350 bed alf and a 200 bed sniff which would be a nursing home no i'm just using that as a point we just don't know that answer so i appreciate the economic analysis don't not sure if i can agree with it 100 knowing and actually coming from that industry myself and be in the industry for a long time knowing how many jobs for nurses pts ot speech language pathologists cnas administrative staff etc could possibly be in that so again i'm not telling you it's wrong but i would question it depending on how large that facility actually is and if it's a full sniff with an alf or if it would just be an alf versus you know a sniff by itself you know that's those are things we have to come in the equation but again so again appreciate it not saying you're wrong just saying i can't say this 100 accurate with not knowing that um that they answered those questions we actually do have at least an indication of the end user and it is 45 000 square feet of medical office not office which typically generates more jobs as well and i'm happy to have tim from live development come up and tell you at least what he can about the user that he's speaking to and i think he's pretty far along if you think that would be helpful i don't i don't i think would probably be better for 96 than this don't you mr steinsteiner i think that would probably pair well with 96 versus versus uh well if you're i mean if you're approving the comprehensive plan amendment yeah okay and that and that this goes to whether or not that changes your opinion i would i would hear the testimony that's fine that's fine i didn't know if we wanted to wait until 90 seconds yeah i guess because and i remember that this developer also builds doesn't he doesn't this developer also do als but yeah i think maybe you remember if you recall and tim's going to tell you a little bit more he looked at the viability of an alf because they could do that they would do that too all right without all this good afternoon tim mckitron with live development when we were before the board at the transmittal hearing i went through the process of showing both the new development and the site plan and the viability of it today but also going back on the history a little bit about three years ago we looked at this property specifically as an assisted living facility we have a senior housing group here to live we went through the process of doing a viability study market study we found that there was a number of other projects coming on that would provide too much supply then we faced the covid pandemic and that was problematic for our development of this property as an alf since we last met together

connection when that is constructed and then the proposed request is consistent with the pasco county ldc chapter 400 subsection 402.2 zoning amendment and beauty master plan unit development and the applicable applicable provisions of the pasco county comprehensive plan so with that we recommend approval with conditions and i'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have on that mpud um anybody have any more questions okay this is a public hearing and uh manager yep just just one question for the team county team multiple occasions it's you know it's been brought up we did a study and such which oh and this afternoon if you stay tuned i'll bring up another reason why that study was wrong that was presented to us because we actually have some new numbers to share um but i won't do that now won't bore the people that will be leaving um but you know so from your perspective you need to approval what conditions you know you know eventually you know along that 54-56 corridor if you was a team and a staff continue to make these exceptions there's a good chance you know like i said before all you're going to see are apartments lined up on 54 and 56 is that the vision i don't think it is but is that the vision the county staff has now because you know you're again constantly saying okay this we're going to approve this we our recommendations to approve but are we going to continue to see these every time one of these comes up again we lose another job creating site we lose another job trading site on that major corridor here in pason county i mean are we going to is this is going to be the norm for the next ten years good afternoon i'm chair victoria espirito's planning and development i think the answer to that question is the comprehensive plan itself there are policies in the comprehensive plan that direct and guide how development is supposed to shape up in the south market area along stable 54 and then we also have board direction given to us how to consider multi-family development when the market proposes it on particular properties in order to preserve those employment generating land areas on 54. so when when a proposal is made to us as in the kit as in this case here um we look at it and seek to find ways to preserve that employment generating land use and make sure that if if there is a multi-family component to it it is put to the rear as the board requested so just in your opinion um what's more important right now to you

as a planner job training sites or more multi-family you know well i'm not sure that's a fair yes it is because this is why they make their this is how they make their determination come out of the chair so i'm asking their this is their opinion yeah well what's happening we've shown the complaint on multiple occasions why it doesn't always meet the complaint at least i have from the dice myself so i'm just asking this question for the record well what's most important to me is the implementation of the comprehensive plan um i can only respond to what the marketplace brings in uh in reference to what the comprehensive plan is saying okay i'm not going to get into in the weeks too much with you but we've had those discussions and i've had them up here before on how jobs are better and meets the comprehensive plan in my opinion more better than that does that's wiping them out and switching them out but especially along the corridor like that where but we have heard the board and we worked particularly close with the applicants in this project to meet the board directive to ensure that there's employment generation taking place on property on properties that do propose multi-family so it isn't the case that we simply accept a multi-family project on 54 we look at is it what are the viable alternatives here and how do we get those to be present on 54 being the viable alternatives being the employment generating land uses and it has to be done in a way that makes sense from a site planning perspective which is what we tested against in this case but also from an economic development standpoint which we worked with the office of economic growth to determine um as we did in this case so the office of economic growth just out of curiosity they think would be better to have the multi-family than additional jobs that's uh and madam chair they and what is the amount that they of jobs they increased on this by increasing the square footage of the medical unit i don't know why you keep interrupting me today when i'm still waiting for the intimate question well there's there's did the economic the office of economic growth comment on this they did they commented that the category one wetlands constrained the property significantly and they determined that the forty five thousand square feet of employment generating land use here which would generate 93 jobs um what and actually i shouldn't say 45 000 it's it's more like 55 000 which was

half of the existing employment generating entitlement was sufficient for the amount of acreage that remained on the site after you took away the land for the category one wetland okay not sure yeah um you know just if there's any doubt i think this board said it many times well i don't think we're looking for a lot of apartments i think home ownership i think is great whether it be townhomes which is i think it's superior single-family home superior to that but this corridor especially whatever we can do to generate jobs what we want to do uh if you feel you need to bring a project like this forward don't be thinking i don't think you want to think we want any more traffic on 54. there's not going to be a lot of relief though some things will help so if you have to look at a priority i would rather have you work very closely with david engel edc pedc and find what incentives you can get to get better job creative things i mean this project better than what it was they did make some improvements on it to create some more jobs in the retail going underneath that was good but i don't want you to think for a minute that i don't think we're pushing for apartments but right madam chairs yeah so moving forward we would like to see more job generating activities well and they don't they know that that's why this for five years well and we've done that when in certain areas when when someone wants to come in and they're allowed to come in with a storage facility we've said no push the storage facility in the back put jobs out front and i think they've done that here they put the jobs out front on 54 and they put the residential in the back it'll be across the street from other residential um so we won't get that complaint that we're getting in in other areas uh so i think this is a good compromise and uh take a motion well now you've still got a step you've oh okay i thought i asked for that already does the applicant want to speak okay just very briefly uh elise batzel stern sweeper miller could you put the presentation up i'm not going to run through it i just want to show a couple of slides to address a couple of the transportation issues from the community and while you're doing that i just want to remind everybody and i know not everyone was here when we went through it but we had the we're following the guidelines from when the urban land institute came in and said your your comp plan promotes sprawl and you need to focus your density on the 54 corridor or you're going to have to really raise taxes to provide services spread out all over the county

so that is what our comp plan says says put your density on 54. and um and i know we're going through some revisions now and this board and the public will have an opportunity to weigh in on how we want that that comp plan to look going forward but this is what we're following now okay madam chair motion to receive and file for this project please okay second all favor hi thank you thanks um so just briefly i know that ab set forth how everything is laid out the areas in red they weren't very clear on the black and white site plan those are additional uh retail and employment generating uses vertically integrated within the multi-family building again because it's constrained by the wetland there is only so much that you can do on this site with resp it's odd shaped there's a very large wetland which we are protecting completely we made a number of changes to the site plan based on input here input from the community i'm going to skip over these oh let's go back to transportation i went the wrong way whoops i'm sorry i uh bottom oh that's why let's find where we are here all right i there you went through it really quick do you by chance have the comp plan up rather than the mpud presentation oh there we go transportation so i just want to make sure that you understand what the developer is doing to address the transportation issues first we will be paying a prop share payment of 350 000 that will actually go towards the signalization and intersection improvements at state road 54 and henley the county is going to install the signal and we're going to receive mobility fee credits towards the roadway and sis portions of mobility fee on the maximum amount of that credit would be 75 000. um we are also doing significant site access improvements that's adding 350 feet of an eastbound right turn lane at the driveway access off of state road 54 as well as 195 foot southbound left turn lane at the driveway access off of henley and with respect to the concerns about traffic we had our traffic engineers look at the proposed entitlements and what traffic that would generate on 54 and henley versus our proposal and there is a significant decrease in the trips that this project will generate and that does not even count any internal capture that may happen between the pet center between the retail and the multi-family your guidelines under the ite trip generation and your county methodology don't allow us to take those into consideration so it may in fact even be less than that

i'm sure that's a question thank you you just mentioned that the previous proposal would generate more trips your current proposal that's correct okay so now i'm really confused commercial typically generates more than residential yeah look at the chart and our transportation as engine engineer is here if you have specific transportation i i know i'm just asking if so you're saying if it would have been a l or a sniff that would have generated more trips i'm going to let it go and i asked that because you made a statement a little while ago that's saying there's going to be more jobs created now jobs and trips are two separate well i understand it very well i've been here eight years i understand that works thank you um but i do question that because in an assisted living facility or a skilled nursing facility majority of the time i'd say 97 to 98 of this time those residents aren't driving so if you only have a few jobs how is that how was that more trips what do you mean a few jobs i thought you said that it was such a huge employment generation come on up but tuffy you're saying there was more jobs now than there were previews but there's going to be less trips but you know the people in the assisted living facility and the sniff don't drive because those numbers make no sense all right let's go my name is ali atefi link's associates at 5023 uh west drive tampa bay so these figures do not compare uh the alf versus the nursing home these compare what was approved in entire in its entirety of office 80 000 square feet retail of 30 000 square feet and 275 000 square feet of af afl of what was approved previously so when you add up the trips of all those uses and then compare it to what is proposed here then you generate less trips of what is being proposed if that makes sense listen i i respect and i appreciate what you're what you're saying i'm just making a point that the trips that are gonna be generated an al or a sniff do not compare to what especially forty thousand square foot of office if you add that in as well i mean you can because you showed us earlier about how many ftes maybe their employees may be at that site but um and that may be i'm just talking about the overall what was overall approved versus what's okay otherwise we're available to answer any questions that you have thank you so much and it'd be great if some of those residents get to work there and then they don't even get out on the road that'd be wonderful uh all right so we've heard from the

applicant does anyone in the audience forced to speak to this item do we have anyone online we have no one online for this item okay take a motion motion to approve second uh uh roll call vote again where is this one this is okay all in favor aye opposed all right then we are on to 85. if i'm keeping this straight yes you are item p805 was published in tampa times on july 10 2022. good afternoon denise hernandez planning and development p85 is we're asking for public comment on this item this is omb220031 it's a request for public comment reporting regarding the proposed use of fiscal year 2022 edwin byrne memorial justice assistant grant program and this is from the pasco sheriff's office cfda number 16.738 as i understand that the amount is 122 thousand forty dollars and the request is for you to just accept public comment the board does not have to make any um action on this item okay um do we take public comment on this one yes yes okay um anyone wish to speak to this there's no one on webex then it is you don't have to take any action so we'll move on all right sherman since we're a little bit out of order this says i suggest that we do the resounding procedures and swearing in for the rest of the agenda yes let's do that there are two reasoning agendas regular consent staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners if staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request that the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications will on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn to the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in florida is that near public support

or opposition of an application is insufficient for the board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code adam clerk would you like to swear the public in for the remainder of the agenda thank you if you're here to speak on the remainder of the agenda could you please stand and raise your right hands the numbers are wrong do you swear or confirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you god thank you madam chair yep so nobody had to be sworn in for 96 for p96 i'm just curious we didn't do this we didn't swear before p96 so do we need to redo that vote no i don't believe you need to redo that okay well p85 your question p85 was the one that denise just written yes okay so 185. sorry my notes are a little messy you're on you're on the con you're you've done 85 correct denise yes that's correct and uh 86 the continuance is is next so item p86 was published in the tampa times on june 22 2022. item p86 is pd pd 227563 this item palmetto ridge mpud master plan unit development was advertised as a continuance the continuing status to august 24 2022 board of county commissioners meeting at 1 30 in newport richie okay i'll take a this is a public hearing does anyone wish to speak on this item that is being continued is there anybody online will you continue second no one second no one's on webex okay i have a motion in a second all in favor aye aye aye okay p 87. item p87 was published in tampa times on may 4th 2022 p87 is pdd 227585 this is eagle 2 industrial ecmpud this item was also advertised as a continuance the continuance is to the 824 2022 board of county commissioners meeting at 1 30 in newport richmond to continue the country exactly all right uh does anyone wish to speak this item that has been continued well they can speak today or not it's published continuous okay all in favor aye aye opposed all right uh p 8 yes item p 88 was published in the tampa bay times on june 22nd 2022. item p88 is pd227596 denton ave mpud master plan unit this item was advertised as a continuance to the 10 25 2022 vcc meeting at 130 in newport richie however it has been changed to a request to continue the item to a date uncertain move to continue time uncertain second all in favor aye opposed all right next

item p89 was published in tampa bay times on june 22 2022. p89 is pdd227614 this is 54 crossing mpud master plan unit development the item is advertised as a continuance the august 24 2022 border county commissioners meeting at 1 30 in newport richie motion to continue second all in favor p 90. item p90 was published in tempe times on june 1st 2022 p90 is pdd220337 this is a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment this today we're asking that you authorized transmittal to the department of economic opportunity and other reviewing agencies this is cpal 22. villages l and m large scale comprehensive plant amendment to the future land use maps map 2-15 and sheet 14 15 22 and 23 from vmu-3 village mix-use type 3 to vmu-2b village mixed-use type 2b on approximately 1773 acres of real property located east of curley road and north of the zephyr hills bypass this item was presented to the pasadena hills planning and policy committee on june 16th of 2022 and presented to the local planning agency on july 7th of 2022 who found it consistent with the comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board again this is the of the transmittal of the item to the deo so we're asking that you authorize transmittal to the deo and other reviewing agencies okay is there anyone here wishing to speak in opposition to this i think is this the only item we have on consent one movement so we'll leave this on consent 91 and for the record there's no one on webex for p90 okay all right item p91 was published in the template times on june 2022 p91 is pd22cu19 this is a conditional use in the name of angelo eugenti the third vbts llc t-mobile south llc for 170 foot above ground level wireless communication facility and an r4 high density residential district comes through with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your jam the packet from both the planning commission and the planning and development department okay is there anybody wishing to speak on this id and i have no one on webex for this item all right we'll keep it on the consent i'll take a motion for consent all in favor aye aye p92 item p92 was published in the times on july 20th 2022. good afternoon everybody tammy snyder playing in development here we have the arlington del maybery and pud pdd 22 75 69. here's your location map and proposes a rezoning request from an mpd to an mpd to allow the development of a maximum of 238 multi-family residential units and to also change the

name from dale mabry town center and beauty to the arlington dale maverick and preety the applicant is also requesting a variation from the land development code section 805.6 restrictions on wetlands and the upland buffers the requirement is for mandatory mandatory hoacd and the variation request is for the multifamily portion only which will be under single ownership and here is the master plan the colored part is the multi-family area and here's the complete master plan with the commercial retail also show conceptual currently the subject parcels are known as the dell mabry town center and pud and they contain a department store and a bank totaling approximately one hundred eighty two thousand seven hundred forty five thousand square feet of allocated used commercial retail entitlements the planning commission heard the item at the october 28 2021 public hearing and unanimously voted to recommend approval the bcc heard the item at the december 7th 2021 hearing and voted to continue to a date uncertain to be able to have more discussions regarding this project generally vertical mixed use is preferred however given the amount of retail and office entitlements in this area the essential missing element is high density housing and reducing such to add more retail office would not be consistent with the concept of mixed use furthermore the land is limited in its development potential due to restrictive covenants imposed by the existing big box retailer and the big box retailers in the area are located within residential future land uses therefore this area has non-residential development encroaching into residentially entitled lands ldc section 402.2.2.8 specifies that variations from the code may be reviewed and approved by the pc and bcc and staff has reviewed these recommended the requested variations and recommend approval as they meet the intent of the land development code the proposed request is consistent with the pasco county ldc chapter 400 subsection 402.2 zoning amendment and beauty and with the applicable provisions of pasco county comprehensive plan and with that the pdd recommends approval with conditions and i see the applicant coming up to speak to us madam chair clark hobby hobby and hobby pa 109 north brush street tampa florida and i have been sworn here on behalf of the applicant as you heard this is a mpud that's existed since 2005 the only remaining partial in the overall master plan is a nine acre site and it's located almost entirely within the res six flu which as you undoubtedly know under the 2007 comprehensive plan only allows residential land uses there's a small portion in the ror

section but that ror overall area does not have any residential within this area of ror the site's been unoccupied since the mpud was approved in 2005 and since the master partial and master infrastructure was developed in 2007 and 8. so i think you can probably understand since this is on dale mabry that there's something amiss here and there's something amiss and the reason why you see semi-trailers parked on the site in this recent aerial is the fact that there are significant restrictions that staff discussed that prohibit as an example the following retail uses on this site gas stations bars liquor stores hotels second-hand stores car dealerships bowling alleys movie theaters vet offices fitness and massage clinics schools and technical schools and there's a severe limitation on restaurants so the reason why this site has sat fallow for so long and unused is any of the retail uses that it was set up for most of which cannot be used so we go the next slide so you'll see it's hard to read on this site but this is probably one of the reasons that taxes were unpaid on this site for eight years wow there were tax certificates outstanding for eight years and it was almost lost to a tax deed sale in 2015 we can go to the next slide and then after that the lender foreclosed on the site in 2015 you can go the next couple of slides since that time there still hasn't been any use on the site so that's going back another seven years and in the intervening period of time the county had to bring a full-on code enforcement lawsuit against the property owner and there's i think one more slide it was basically being used by homeless people and as a dumping site for many years so i think our client rightly so wants to do something that's reasonable and is allowed on the site you can move on one more slide you can see this is the overall flu for this area you can see the majority of the site at the apex is in a residential future land use classification and pursuant to the 2007 comp plan and the land development code that was in effect at the time the mpud was approved it says that it has to follow right now this mpud modification the current comp plan which will not allow the retail uses that were originally approved so the only real uses that are allowed here are residential and since we're up against a super target and a major power center the only realistic use is multi-family so as staff told you this fills in a

residential area we can move on the next slide this fills in an area that you know needs some productive use and when i got involved after this originally came to the board what i was charged with the mission of doing here is making sure that this mpud was on an equal footing with the other mpuds that were similar on u.s 41 that had been to the board recently and that's what we've done with this connectivity plan the objective of this plan is to make this site comply with all of the mudder requirements that it can without having the benefit of being able to regulate the target site because as you might imagine the big box user user is not willing to take any of pasco county's further restrictions since they're already built out the site i mean the mpud as you heard went through planning commission no one is objected to date and again what we did was create this binding plan which creates all the walkability the block sizing and the trails on-site and off-site to interconnect to the site such that if we were starting from scratch this would have met the mudrum requirements we've improved the form of development and put it on par with the other projects that the board has approved on 41 recently and this is clearly a good economically viable use that is going to be the first time the site's been in any productive use since at least 2005 so with that i'm happy to answer any questions the board might have but i would urge your approval thank you um board members do you have any questions for mr hobby yeah i'll just say when i first looked at this i didn't like it but looking at the conditions and the finding of fact number five especially about target and the restrictions the list you gave off it's pretty much like what bond we have to do it thank you commissioner mariana again i think that's why the site was never developed all this time it's been 15 years 15 to 17 years the site's been sitting like this you know this is one of those sites where i when i look at that target parking lot and i think of the target that we have over there on 54 and little and there there are so many spaces that never get a car on it and is that the best use to have a paid parking lot that no one uses i'm just wondering if i see there's some undeveloped land in front of the target and i just wonder terry we could look at that parking lot and give some of the space up for more economic activity well i can speak for terry i think in the sense of the parking field that you see there is all a part of the approved

um target center that was a part of their site plan the other green space out front is actually within d.o.t area and that's what's kind of unique about the site those blue i mean blue the yellow trails that you see dash throughout the area in front of target those are actually trails that exist and they actually broke up the uh parking field which was unusual in 2009 and create walkable areas so that the the little dotted lines running through the dot property those are actual existing trails and that's part of the reason why i think this actually meets the muttering requirements overall so there's there's a lot of benefit there already commissioner starkey okay i don't see those when i look at the satellite but i'm just saying i think we've over parked some of these developments that could be better used for something else but i agree this is a great improvement over what we have going on there when i look at the satellite and i don't know when they took this picture but one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven probably illegally parked um semis semis yeah and probably a lot of junk too so yeah so um all right this is a public hearing does anyone wish to speak to this item do we have anyone i have no one on webex for this item okay it is this is not a consent correct this is two to four that is correct second all right all in favor opposed okay okay we are on to 94. 93. 93 sorry item p93 was published in tampa times on june 22nd 2022. liam divine planning and development item p93 pdd 22 dash 7588 in the name of joy drive mpud the subject site is currently located on the north side of dock patch lane approximately 390 feet west of joy drive and a budding joy drive approximately 650 feet north of dog patch lane here's a look at the aerial view here's a look at the surrounding future land use and here's a look at the current zoning the applicant is requesting a rezoning from ac agricultural district and ar agricultural residential district to an mpud master plan unit development on approximately 45.3 acres with a maximum of 107 single-family detached dwellings the applicant is requesting variations from ldc section 901.6 point d point 11 street design and dedication requirements and 901.1.8 transportation corridor spacing and special design requirements staff has identified the following the connection to the east is to joy drive a county maintained dirt road we'll have emergency access only there are existing homes with driveways along joy drive emergency access will result in less disruption to those existing homes an interconnection to the west would also require excuse me require a potential impact to

a category 1 wetland additionally the location of a storm water pond in a natural low-lying spot to the southwest would interrupt that wetland and interconnection to the west and then the southwest parcel could potentially connect to the mpud has a flood plain and continuation of the category wetland that would make this project hard to develop here's a look at the current master plane the subject site consists of a single family dwelling in mobile such manufactured homes on approximately 45.3 acres the applicant proposes to develop the property with a maximum of 107 single-family detached dwellings subject to the comprehensive plan the surrounding area is characterized by residential development consisting of single-family detached dwellings the oakstead mpud mobile such manufactured homes and the pasco county animal service center the subject area has the subject site has a future land use classification of res 3 and this is coming with a recommendation for approval with conditions from planning commission and planning and development department i'm here if you have any questions um so i don't think i was i don't know if i've been briefed on this one um i see the applicants coming up so good can you give us a background on this barbara will height 63 27 grand boulevard newport richie this was a very fairly straightforward project we're talking about i had been sworn thank you i wouldn't miss that highlight of my day fairly straightforward project um it's in the res 3 land use about 100 and between 103 and 107 single family detached units 50 foot minimums there's no 40s client intends to meet and exceed all of your architectural and monotony control that's what madame homes does south market area utilities are in place and we have a unanimous recommendation from planning commission i know there's probably maybe a couple people here to speak so i have my team here my client mac mcgraw i have ali attefi from links and associates if there's any transportation questions i have the testimony from chris williams to planning commission regarding schools so there's no school questions i'm prepared to answer them so with that i will see if there's any public comment well i have a question and it may have been mentioned but i don't think i heard it just knowing that we have the major trail of the county coming up very close to it and that may be a way that some of the kids get to school

we have a stub out to the north that we're required to do on our master plan okay so we'll be connected to our neighborhoods to the north whenever they develop and they'll be connected to tower okay and there'll be a trail not a street i can't all i can do is say our project isn't isn't on tower we are south of tower so we will be connected to our neighborhood and our sidewalks north of us which then will connect to your trail well is it a sidewalk connection or is it a wider than normal sidewalk connection or just a regular sidewalk i'm not a i'm not adjacent to i know what are you what are you going to step out to your neighbor to the north with we're going to stub out a vehicular connection with sidewalks four five foot sidewalks yes okay that's not optimal but i think we could do better but if our planning staff didn't discuss that with y'all and i'm not going to reshape it here but i wish they would in the future okay um is there anyone in the public any board members any questions yeah i know we have christy signed up but a board members any other questions for the applicant okay um we have one this is the one speaker yes okay i am christy zimmer um i am not speaking against this particular project but what i do want to bring to your attention is the fact that the multiple developments that are being approved if you do approve this one along that lake patients corridor is creating a horrible impact from a cac mpo position we have been asking for a traffic light at lake patients in 41 for over 10 years but we're told it goes there's going to be a realignment of late patients over to belle lake road that's not even on the books on the priority list and we've had just this past week five more major accidents at that intersection including two yesterday with a possible fatality we have got to address this i spoke at length with jensen with fdot at the last cac meeting and he said that fdot has warranted a traffic light for that intersection and it's in the county's hands now because that realignment isn't even on the books and we're still approving all these extra projects along lake patients that have already been approved are being approved and much more traffic being created is there a way that the county commission can please expedite a traffic light at that intersection immediately because it is beyond warranted i i'm not putting that burden on this particular developer i'm putting the burden back on the county because this is long overdue um what intersection were you referring to because patients and 41. oh 41 and this development is going to be coming out like patients as as well as the ones

you've already approved and are coming up for approval miss simmer can you just state for the record that you've been sworn i have been supported thank you sorry okay um well we'll get information on that red light i'm curious on that myself all right uh is there anyone online we're gonna speak to this uh no one is online for this item commissioner you have other public comments okay commission mariano has a question then commissioner moore yes um i'd like to talk to staff liam i guess madam chairman i i really think you ought to finish the public public comment people i did there's nobody well you've got a guy oh i didn't even recognize you sorry all those people all right you're allowed come on oh there's more over there okay once you come on up and line up right behind him thank you commissioner starkey and i've been previously sworn my name is peter goran i live at 4508 havelock drive in lando lakes that's in the march mark subdivision above the oakstead community um also a licensed attorney florida bar number zero one two two six one eight um i wanna thank the committee for its time today i'm gonna speak very plainly on here on behalf of myself and my family been involved in litigation for almost 50 15 years mostly as court-appointed counsel for the government i'm certainly busy enough that i'm not looking to take up any causes but miss polit polonitska palinitza who is president at the last meeting and is present here today has done a tremendous amount of work on this issue and i believe has laid out very well the concerns to this committee at the last hearing um essentially what we're seeing with our own eyes as it's been articulated before is unfettered development um the apartments along 54 and the residential housing behind it was mentioned this is exactly what i thought of when uh commission commissioner sarkee when you said sprawl because essentially it's being built with disregard to infrastructure and the ecosystem with regard to the eu ecosystem it was brought to my attention at the last committee meeting that it wasn't even clear that there would be destruction of wetlands this is the home of the keystone species of the gopher tortoise it's a protected species at the very least and wildlife law is a very dynamic fluid changing area of the law right now personally myself just on the information i've gleaned in the last couple of days in my spare time i have a lot of questions i'd like the opportunity to review mr devine's plans and i i expect that uh i'll be able to do that but my understanding is that many of the people that are going to be affected including the people who live on dog patch lane don't even know that this is going on and the feasibility of

of uh five foot sidewalks um as others could tell you is just not feasible um so at this point i'm i know it's one minute so at this point i'm objecting to the rezoning we have a petition with over 100 signatures community members will be directly affected by this i'd like to acquire the plans to make sure they're in compliance with state and federal law and i am asking the committee not to approve the rezoning um and i'm not sure if mr points i would like to make any further comment uh but yes the traffic issue as we previously mentioned is beyond horrible right now and the answer is not more unfettered development it's um replace it's getting the infrastructure in place thank you for your time thank you you know i've heard this comment a lot i will speak go ahead sorry and i think someone else come up speak about in infrastructure in place but infrastructure always follows development for i think we had one interesting anomaly that was state road 56 when we had a developer who got got the state to help pay give us some money ahead of time to build out the extension of state road 56 but typically um we don't collect money ahead of time to build infrastructure it follows development so it's just the standard way of the way america develops otherwise your taxes would be really high because that's where we would have to get the money to do the infrastructure if we didn't get it from the impact fees from development so it's sadly the infrastructure is the tail wagging the dog i guess is that the right expression okay so um you wanted to speak to us today um name and address for the record okay this is sean moore hello john we need your name and address for the record okay my neighborhood is one big neighborhood your name and your address um four four one was this question nine okay were you sworn in yes yes may 1st 1993 you you can lower that mic if you want okay what one was this christian nine may 1st 1993 my neighbor heard this one big neighborhood watch another official kind went look out for each other it said now we get police cars in our yard police helicopter went over all palm trees too many houses there's a bad guy came in the skies in our yard my neighborhood is more than a place on the map my neighborhood is my heart in

my neighborhood neighbors are more than just the people who live next door in my neighborhood you can still find the middle of nowhere and we have lots of dirt roads and dumpsters anyway we'd like him to share our time please like his shawn's dad edward moore um ma'am can we get your name address for the record please and that you've been sworn yeah i'm debbie moore 4116 kristen lane and yes i was sworn in my husband is edward moore that i've talked to you about before how he has tried so hard to defend this neighborhood our daughter was kristen april moore and i didn't bring any emotion into this the last time because i thought that rational stuff was gonna cut it but no you guys don't know this land at all you haven't walked it you don't see it even the county people i'm talking to they don't know the land liam tells me oh you're not rural you're urban support and we live on six acres the neighbors on twenty we have wetlands all around we'll see if you put that on that boat please again and look at it with a little more depth and i have the lake patients study for the road my husband has that from years ago i have the storm water flood drainage maps this is all from 2006. when ogsted came in uh citizens we tried to sue oaks dead for not putting the wildlife stuff in like they were supposed to crystal lane is an official wildlife connection zone and you guys act like 20 acres it's so nothing but it's in the middle of hundreds plus acres of wetlands and it is tight i didn't think i thought the new land up the road here that was not quite as offensive as what you've done to us you need to stay up ma'am stay at the mic yeah we need to get you on record thank you anyway when we were here last time you gave a continuance for a pothole in the road and katherine you're in the background whispering when can we vote and then you say i don't think i'm gonna be able to stay for the vote and then boom you're asking questions people are answering i wanted to appeal that decision so bad and everybody talked me out of it it's like it should have been appealed anybody want to hear that september 28 2021 i'm sorry it's very very wrong it's kind of ironic because oaks dead was september 28 1999 and everyone ignores that how we raised hell so much to not get that kind of impact on this wildlife onto this land onto this primitive swamp of the alligators still across the road i don't know we're going to put sidewalks and prevent the kids from coming across alligators because they do come out we do these dogs and cats and if you look on the map can you put on my back up please and show up close the swamp road it's not a road where you can just drive around and put sidewalks it's there's no shoulder all the way down like patients road people right now are walking in puddles wet shoulders mud it's the road is so

dangerous and now the construction of what was it called the pines what's it called whispering pines yeah they burned down hundreds of acres of pine trees now it's all dirt now there's all pipes there's construction lake patience road is so dangerous for coming today i've got i've got it on my phone wait ma'am you got to stay at the mic i have pictures on my phone but you guys need to go see the area this should not just be a decision that you're making the one you made already is so wrong and i still like to appeal that if that could puzzle be done some kind of litigation conservation areas you're not considering the wildlife that was approved to be taken care of there and i have so much information that my husband collected and if he hadn't died i don't think this would happen he had been in every one of your offices and you would have understood it stay at the mic you got to stay at the mic well i don't understand catherine that you had to rush the vote that day you you're whispering when can we vote and then you're whispering for the vote the september 28th 21 21 about the jolly drive go that nobody knows anything about the land that's why i'm so angry thank you thank you very much i wish i'd gotten dragged out of the courtroom and been on tv because we didn't got publicity and this wouldn't be happening all right thank you very much does um anyone else wish to address the ball okay come on i'll give them a second to get gather their things today it's already done it's been done communications okay um can you um step away so we can have the next speaker thank you very much oh we're gonna get a close-up view thank you anymore yep all right thank you thank you okay hi hi for the record i was sworn in you can lift up the mic there you go thank you my name is catherine baxter polanitsa i live at 4544 havelock drive in the subdivision of marchma in the neighborhood of oakstead i'm here on behalf of all of my neighbors i again i have around 100 petition signatures to hopefully stop this development per the last meeting i think we were able to see a lot of things that were not expressed i had multiple neighbors who will be directly impacted by this subdivision being built reach out and have absolutely no idea this was happening there was no letter sent to them people who live on dog patch lane reaching out to me directly had having no idea that this was going to proceed that this was even in in the realm of possibility um i think that our environmental impact um as stated from barbara last time there actually will be wetland distribute disruption they will be ruining our wetlands and you know

it said it's just it's just a quarter of an acre it is still a quarter of an acre and to allow these allow these uh gopher tortoises and animals to have healthy sustainable lives they need the wetlands and they need the they need the ability to flow back and forth from these wetlands and when you build a development like this you're taking away a lot of their land i think there's a lot of issues as well as with our schools and i know we have people here to address that however i know firsthand our children at oakstead elementary are already in portables we have two more developments with over 300 homes being built in that same area with no no uh help of building a new school anytime soon where are these children supposed to go then you're adding in another homes another hundred homes with the expectation of these children have nowhere to go i believe that our children should have the right to a great education and with overflowing schools and under underdeveloped infrastructure for the schools you're setting them up for failure so i plead with you guys to hopefully halt this on behalf of all of my neighbors who cannot be here at on a tuesday at 1 30 in the afternoon i speak on behalf of them and yeah thank you thanks can you tell me what i've been trying to find at havelock yes so four five four four havelock drive how are you spelling that h-a-v-e l-o-c-k-e oh cke i don't know it's not showing up here and how long have you lived in the area we um are originally from fort myers we moved to the area in 2019 purchased our houses three years ago so were you so okay well that answers it right there yeah thank you very much okay let's let the applicant oh wait is there anyone else here that wishes to speak okay come on up and if there's anyone else please line up behind her and that's going to be the end of public comment here do we have anyone online no one's online okay so unless someone stands up and gets behind this young lady then you're going to be the last speaker thanks for calling me young okay my name is pat rubrecht and i live at 4556 mitchell road my road is right off of lake patience road you can tell me if you've been swimming then if you would please raise your right hand do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you god yes thank you the road i live on is right off of lake patients road which will be impacted by this new development my biggest concern with this new development of 107 homes is the impact of traffic on lake patients road and the impact it will bring to our already

overcrowded schools especially oakstead elementary school which when it opened 10 years ago opened with portable classrooms i also worry about the additional traffic in front of the school there's going to have to be more buses to bus these kids from these new subdivisions on lake patients road and this one on joy drive we already have a shortage of bus drivers not to mention the additional cars it will bring with people taking their kids to school the traffic is already terrible right at the beginning of school and end of school a previous spoke already a previous speaker already spoke about my concern about the intersection at lake patients and 41 unfortunately i saw one of those accidents yesterday it's a common occurrence the developer has purchased 3.5 acres to gain entrance into the subdivision on the 40 acre block however as i understand it only 24 acres of this property is usable as the rest are wetlands therefore including the road structure you're cramming 107 homes onto approximately 24 acres including the road coverage that's one house per every one-sixth of an acre we moved to pasco county about 16 and a half years ago to get out of the busy hectic tampa traffic we liked it out here because it was rural since then of course we've seen a lot of develop development which didn't impact us so much as this one will this one will because of the the other two subdivisions palti with 400 homes and the new subdivision with the rental homes lake patients and oakstead are two lane roads so if you know there was one car per house that could be 700 more cars traveling lake patients and oakstead boulevard i just feel like you're cramming this into sensitive wetlands surrounding lake patients and little lake patients watersheds i live on little lake patients and it has been cleaned up and improved over the last 10 years and provides a nice community for the old florida homes this includes a huge population of deer that roam freely in everyone's yards and wetlands in this area is a huge natural habitat not only for the deer but turkey and gopher tortoises this land is irreplaceable and does not deserve a high density subdivision thank you thank you very much okay um i think that was our last speaker so we'll have the applicant come back i what and i am kind of curious what is the future plan for lake patients if anyone can answer that at some point thank you i'm i'm hopeful staff or maybe we can talk about like patients in 41 it's quite a

distance from our project and i would assume that your students won't need to be bused to oakstead elementary that's correct yeah so when the issue of schools came up at planning commission chris williams was there and spoke to the planning commission it's a little difficult because he's not here with you all so i have to relay you know we've typed up his his testimony and we'll relay it to you but i can tell you when it comes to schools we get asked about it a lot before we make an application of the county to rezone property we make an application of the school board they know every rezoning that's going on in your county then when a construction plan comes in they get an application again and so they know exactly when houses are coming online so they are working hard to get the schools in place relative to what what chris williams explained is that they're constructing a new k-8 um school and it's going to take all of oakstead's boundary that is currently south of 54 so that will provide significant relief to oakstead these are his words not mine at the time and also to bexley he said we are hoping that that k-8 school of enough capacity that others will be able to choice in to that school as well as um they may want to have that k-38 experience and that will add additional to relief to oakstead as they choose to go to that new k-8 school they're working on so they're looking to expand the drop-off and pick up loop at oakstead and add some capacity he said that our project at the most will add 20 elementary school students if they all elected to go to public school at oakstead it says many students are choosing they're seeing them choose magnet schools and charter schools so the vast majority of growth in the oak state boundary is finished but there's still some growth coming to oakstead but the addition of the k-8 school to the south of 54 by ballentre is planned to provide a bulk of relief to oakstead in a couple years when our houses will be coming online but i thought it was important to share to you and share with you because we don't have anybody from the school board here but that's the testimony that he gave to the planning commission and they also object didn't object to the project and actually voted recommended voted to recommend to you all to approve it as far as notice goes when matami homes first put this property under contract before they even came to me mac would explain to you that he sent out notices to all the actual neighbors on joy and as well as on dog patch and wanted them to call him if they had any questions and he had a couple folks that called and asked questions

we have not heard from any of those neighbors despite specifically noticing them again i noticed them again and we posted the property we go through extensive list of species review in connection with an mpud and we have quite a few conditions of approval we are completely compliant with the land development code in that regard we will be reviewed again when we come in with construction plans because those listed species surveys are only good for 18 months a little unusual this project is that our category one wetlands have to go into a conservation easement i haven't seen the county in implementing that on projects but that's what we'll have to do we have a small impact a 400 square feet impact to a wetland on site but other than that the rest of all of our wetlands and their buffer are going to go into a conservation easement we've gone through all these who manages that easement i guess i'm going to find that out because i have not the county's never asked anybody for a conservation easement uh yeah it was not familiar so i'm interested i'm interested in that process as well but but i haven't gone through it yet so we've gone through all the requirements for our road review we have substandard road improvements that we'll need to make to dog patch and joy drive at lake patients and joy drive that intersection we're going to work with mi and the county to do a left turn lane improvement so our traffic and ms traffic and will be not no longer in the lane of travel as we turn left into joy drive from lake patients as you heard one of the speakers talk about mi did have a project approved a similar type project on joy drive in 2021 and they're working we're working together with the county to put that turn lane in we're consistent with that project approval we're consistent with our res 3 land use your vision for this property is the south market area and your urban service area where you where you want to have development you have utilities in place which is supports the level of density we are not cramming anything in we are doing a three units per acre project um with 50-foot homes monotony control and architectural details and all the things that you're asking for projects to do today we would ask for your support today we have gone through the process we followed the process it's a long process we've answered all the questions we've we've done everything we have to do to move this forward and we'd ask for your support okay and um the density is r3 yes three units per developable acre and

um i know you used to be assistant county administrator and you were here when we did i mean attorney not administrator sorry uh this is not sprawl right this is infill it is not that's correct for following your utility policies you actually have a policy where you have central water and sewer the minimum density is three units per acre so that's why where you have utilities you see res free land uses red six land uses because the minimum density when you have made that public investment in infrastructure is three units per acre so we're sitting right at that minimum for the infrastructure you have in place yeah so yep um barbara that there's a neighborhood to the northwest it says have a lock drive that's part of oakstead i think that's part of oakstone yeah so those are smaller lots yes those are smaller lots about house oaks it's very similar very similar development yeah so say it looks pretty similar to what you're proposing and we do a large category one i got off on this conservation easement thing but in between those oakstead houses homes and our homes there's a large category one wetland there you can kind of see it in the darker green so you can see where those homes are and then you can see the darker green is the wetland line there um i can see it just i'm sure you can see it too from the ariel so there is that large category one wet one is on our west side and i think liam had mentioned that's why we're not providing any connections to the west because of because of that large wetland so they have a large buffer there and we will comply with all of the listed species requirements i mean i wrote all those so i know i'm well thank you and i think you've mentioned and i think when it came to the um it was part of about the traffic signal i think that's something that um i don't know if you guys hear from the npo or not but we can put that on the agenda for the next thanks mike yeah i can speak won't make it tomorrow but to the to the august september npo meeting let's look at that and see where that is that's fine we're currently far away from this project you can't obviously ask the uh the developer of this project to obviously pay for a signal that's i don't know how many miles away it's but at the same time it's something that we should bring up and look i don't disagree so we should uh look at moving that forward i know where um close to where i live there was a single that took 15 years so to get put in even though it was

approved it took a long time i'm curious about that it took a long time to get there and then you know everybody felt the pain so um yeah if we can thanks mike we can yeah we're very close september that'd be great thank you frankly i'm not looking at dog dog patch lane um yeah i think there's some interesting maybe on lawful businesses going on on doc patch lane so i would send code out there to take a look uh okay if there's no one else here online and it is to the board madam chair yeah um you asked a question about how wide is the path going to be and looking primarily most of residents gonna come down to the south to get out yes okay so you got a narrow stretch i i don't see a site plan as far as where the homes are gonna go what's laid out but could you put a wider trail like an eight-foot trail instead of a five-foot trail well we don't we're not at sight but where are are you thinking the trail well if everyone's gonna go into the south to get out five-foot trail kids it's one it's one rider at a time or one one walk maybe two walkers but it's it's not it's the very minimum you would want from any kind of multi-use so i don't know what the layout looks like so it's only 107 homes though yeah but it is it is connecting to the master trail to the north and the elementary school to the south so the kids who live in the development just to the north of this when that comes in are going to want to go through here to get to that school so um it's hard it would be dangerous for them they'd be writing in the street because it's hard to write on a little a five foot sidewalk that's just it's better if you could figure maybe put the sidewalk on one side i don't know again i don't know what the site plan looks like but i'm saying that's just the minimum and that's why i brought that up mm-hmm yeah no you don't no thank you okay i think it's really hard to sight plan a project at this stage yeah yeah that's why i'm not going to try we'll have sidewalks on all roads require sidewalks on both sides and and so yeah just what are the amenities in here uh and it's could a multi-use path somewhere in here be an amenity or i just don't know we have not laid the site out all right

well just keep in mind that you you know the there's we want there to be access to the school and we want there to be access to the trail i mean especially with children now that don't get bus service they get more kids traveling this is like something i would think the school board would even ask for i don't know why they wouldn't have but i mean that type of access has got to be a good thing for the community we just had one on 5a road by the library coming in they went from a five foot one eight foot because the trail was going to come in there yeah yeah i mean so i think the developer's sitting here there's a developer that will want to pull up eight foot path or will it come back to us for site plan approval it will not it will not okay so we gotta ask for it now you're trying to plan a project that we don't have you know it's hard to plan a project this is a very small project yeah we'll have a sidewalk an eight foot would be really good on one side not both sides i i don't know what we don't know what the layout looks like so we're not going to see it we don't but if it's how do you want to award that i got 20 kids coming down to school in the morning coming down that one well you got the neighborhood above it too that's in the neighborhood i love it i mean it's not a bad thing for a nice trail in a neighborhood i think look at seven oaks how great that place is nice wide trails starkey ranch the students to the west are they gonna there's no connection for them to come into this neighborhood to go on that sidewalk so where what way does this havelock even travel because i do agree that we need sidewalks especially with our students not being able to be bus to school there's there are sidewalks we're just saying can it be a wider sidewalk that's all i mean sidewalk is the minimum to answer your question commissioner um there will be no connection to the west so if you're thinking there's connection to the west there won't be any because there is that category one wetland there so i think what they're referring to is the parcel above that would have connection that's not currently developed thank you and commissioner i stopped you from asking the question to liam before i don't know if you remember what it was um to go back to public comment no those are okay and the applicant i mentioned at one point i

thought that they were improving dog patch so would the sidewalk go down in a long dog patch or where would the sidewalk be so we have not done our improvements to dog patch or joy drive but if you're talking about internal sidewalks because that's what we're we're working on i mean i think the problem is we gave up an easement on our east side because the folks on the east side their road doesn't sit on their property it sits on this property so we're just what happens is between those wetlands and the easement we gave up on the east side it's really hard to sight plan their project here if you put a firm requirement in and they can't do it because we're squeezed between those wetlands and the easement that we're giving to the joy drive folks because they don't have their road on their own property it's just pretty scary my client to to make that leap is there a size sometimes it's easy to make leaps i make leaps here with you all the time it's just this one's difficult to make that leap well uh is there a sidewalk on joy drive no okay so this is going to be one of those it's not his responsibility but this is going to be one of those deals where we're this is going to get added to our safe routes to school list and we're going to put a sidewalk on joy drive but so we'll have to we'll have to plan for that and there's going to be a lot of that um as we infill in some of these areas well yeah i agree i mean i think it's going to be up to us to try and put something on joy that see the county can't come and put something on there but why would we ask now we're in development stage right now they can design it right now it's very inexpensive then do it if we gonna do it the only projects we have on the on the sidewalk this for over 20 years in the mpl and now we got more coming with all the new terms of schools did we approve the project that's north of this project already no you've approved the mi project which is south and east i mean at a minimum we should look at from one side of the development of the other side from around the sidewalks connecting from the southern part to the northern part you should be able to find at least one side of the development to put a trail through you have 100 200 20 kids going to school one trail and then who's ever going to

come above this is the time to ask so um can we ask for to not put a sidewalk on one side and combine them both on the other i'm asking terry or four foot on one side and a six foot on the other or i mean that's what the mother gonna answer first let them hang on hang on brad or just a master yeah red tip and planning and development um joy drive would most likely be considered sub-center road so there are some processes to handle how the substandard road is is done uh and this development is is not a large development it's only a hundred units or so so that would be something that would be done with a contribution towards the substandard road and you can look at all of the different areas there to see who would need to contribute to that the county probably with the school upgrades for the sidewalks would also need to be a part of that what happens within their site the mpud you can obviously request whatever it is that you would like to see there and we you know when it comes to the design and the site review stage we'll certainly implement that uh but off-site gets a little bit more tricky there because of the size of the subdivision itself so this is you know the challenges we have when we have some little pockets of developments come in and uh we can't it's not fair to burden them too much with what comes in but we need to have an overall plan and they have to be they have to be par somehow be part of that plan if it's to pay in to build a multi-use trail along joy so that those students can actively and safely get to get around or anybody then that that needs to be part of your plan for the area in my opinion this is a master plan unit development that's the zoning character we're going to right i can't recall the last one i've seen we didn't see at least the plan the layout where it was going to go yeah yeah i've never seen this before well yeah this is the normal process but that my client has agreed to make one of his sidewalks that goes north to south eight feet instead of five feet and we can put that in the mpd conditions and hopefully it'll all fit that's great but we're going to have responsibility at the end of his project to get it further on i mean but but it's good to have that piece and we're gonna have to put that same responsibility on the development to the north so that the residents in this development can get up to the trail and safely use a multimodal way to get to work to the park whatever so i appreciate that i'm in my motion then

to um add in the eight foot sidewalk on one side of one side only internal to his project yes not on everyone just one that's kind of yeah that's my motion excellent thank you very much okay all in favor aye opposed remember that for the one to the north [Laughter] thanks barbara all right we are on 94. yes item p94 was published in the tampa bay times on june 22nd 2022. gleam divine planning and development p94 22-7626 in the name of vincent housing corp inc and azaben um four it is the zoning member from c2 commercial district to mf1 multi-family medium density district the subject site is located on the west side of osteen road approximately 635 feet west of massachusetts avenue here is a look at the aerial view here's a look at the surrounding future lane juice to the north is roar and res 12. to the east is aror in res 12 and then to the south and west is res 12. here's a look at the surrounding zoning to the north of c2 to the east is ac and c2 to the south is mf1 and to the west is mf1 the subject site is currently undeveloped on approximately 2.8 acres the applicant proposes to develop the property with 30 apartments in conformance with the mf1 multi-family medium density district standards the proposed osmond village 4 is comprised of 30 apartment units consisting of 15 1 bedroom and 15 two-bedroom units for individuals and families with incomes less than 60 ami access to the property is from osteen road a county maintained local road with approximately 50 feet of right-of-way which varies um the surrounding area is characterized by commercial and residential development and the subject site has a future land use classification of res res12 this is coming with a recommendation for approval from planning commission and planning development department thank you is there an applicant who wishes to speak about this no interesting everybody here okay but i'm sure is there anybody here for the opportunity there's someone here but i i'd like to ask a question okay will the applicant uh come up for a question okay hello do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you god i do thank you i'm michael raposa i'm the ceo with vincentian housing corporation uh 384 15th street saint pete michael your company does a phenomenal job it's a phenomenal project that's going on i just want to ask a question i uh at my rotary club this past week we had a presentation done by one of the gentlemen did a phenomenal job

told us a great story and really got everybody energized about how great this project is i just want to ask one question if it's done or it's not i didn't even ask because i just didn't ask the question but i'll ask you when you're picking your residence and i know you're a regional group are you going to focus on pasco residents first or just first come first serve however it goes so fair housing standard does not allow us to do any type of regional criteria it's an application process now we advertise it here locally um and then of course when the applications are made they have to meet the criteria and then we have to qualify them in the order that were there i can tell you in the other 60 units that are cold would be co-located on this might would be project or were all none of them came from any other place to live there they were all local and all of the neighbors have since applied to live on the the units that are already developed because they're beautiful yes and you're doing a phenomenal job so that's i'm the only thing that if i could i the numbers that the staff had i'm not quite certain because the county had recommended to us your staff had recommended to us that we really try to focus on one ones one one bedroom one baths and primarily for homeless individuals in i think the 1-1 reconfiguration might get us to 34-36 or something like that's not a major substance but um we are we are uh we have received the first piece of the puzzle funded to do one bedroom one bass because that's your that's the demand right now we need and we need them desperately so glad to see these coming up yeah i'm sure yeah i guess since we didn't receive a big presentation and i was never um updated on this or briefed on it i'm going to make an assumption from what i'm hearing is that this isn't our normal multi-family apartment complex is this like one-story affordable housing so this would be exactly like ozone village phase three they said they're not familiar with that so on the back piece of the property it looks from the outside looking in it looks very much like a residence inn by marriott it's a three-story building um with the amenities on the first fl there's amenities in the center of each floor and then there's apartments on each floor with an elevator connecting each floor this is an extension of the current project that's already there this is another thing that's correct so florida housing out of your face that's correct okay it'd be good to give a tour offer we would we would love to give tours i'd love to i've been there numerous times yeah i i i didn't make it when you had one so i'd love to come too sure revitalization for that area this is helping our homeless population okay

gotcha elderly in our elderly okay all right cool i've been i've been ribbon cutting sarah and again what you do is phenomenal so thank you for what you do thank you okay so is there anyone here to speak uh against this item or is there anyone online no one's online for this i'm going to right proof second all in favor all right opposed thank you very much we okay 95 item p95 was published on tampei times on june 22 2022. lim divine planning and development um item p95 i have received expertise from commissioner mariano which have been submitted to the clerk's office pdd22 in the name of jupiter realty um partners llc and lake lakeshore lakeshore workforce apartments it is a zoning amendment from ac agricultural district to mf3 multifamily high density district the subject site is currently located on the northeast corner of dallas drive and lakeshore boulevard this is a look at the aerial view the surrounding future land use to the north is roar to the east as ror and rez6 to the south and west is res 6. here um here's a look at the zoning the subject site is currently undeveloped on approximately 2.53 acres the applicant proposes to develop the property with multi-family dwelling units with a minimum of 30 units for workforce housing in conformance with the mf3 multi-family high density district standards there is a voluntary deed restriction to have a minimum of 30 units provided for workforce housing access to the property is from lakeshore boulevard a county maintained local road with approximately 70 feet of right-of-way that varies the surrounding area is characterized by commercial and residential development and the hca florida bayonet point hospital on may 17 2022 bcc approved a comprehensive plan comprehensive plan to change the future land use to res 24 and this is coming with a recommendation for approval from planning in planning commission and planning development department i'm here if you have any questions and i believe we have staff online as well okay uh board members any questions i just think this is uh you know if you can have people live work and play after the people working in that hospital that can live here and a lot of medical office in this area applicant madam share commissioners todd pressman 202nd avenue south number 451 st petersburg um this is request that sir have you been sworn in oh yes i have been thank you go ahead uh this is request that uh previously the land use amendment was approved by the county and comes before you with planned commission approval we also have the

record a letter from the cfo of hca hospital which is right around the court literally right around on the other side of the property in support of the support of the project a budding on the north is ror 24 units per acre and the immediate buildings and properties are all medical in nature in fact including the hospital there's hundreds of jobs so these apartments are specifically directed to the medical support staff which is why we've committed to at least 50 of the units to be workforce level um that's one reason as well why there's a letter from the cfo of the hospital which they're currently having expansion which he notes that he firmly supports the application mr tom lawhorn again is the cfo he knows the housing for our workforce near the hospital in this case all the better within walking distance is extremely sought and desired the application would provide sorely needed housing for our current staff and provide housing for an expansion that is soon planned for the hospital which actually is underway at this point and he knows the ability applicant to include housing for families that are thrust in the medical crisis located near the hospital is determining sola so they are will be providing one unit that would be for short-term or long-term for um families as indicated would be thrust into a medical crisis they can stay nearby to their loved one we have had a number of discussions and we are in recognition that there are some substandard roadways improvements that we believe need to be further supported and we've had discussions that we would provide an additional thirty thousand dollars at the point of review by the staff of the alternative standard which would be used for additional roadway improvements the entire roadway improvements that would be required would absolutely kill this project so we're trying to work with the county in a very positive manner happy to answer any questions that you might have madam chairman yep yeah the road out front is in bad shape that is paved we just had to do some pothole replacement um we never had the support to do a paving assessment we may do that um in light of that mr pressman i don't want to kill this project i think it's very important the hospital is right across the way it's going to be a very great need so i appreciate you're willing to put an extra 30 000 into getting the roadway done and um very very very appreciative of that thank you yes sir

[Applause] okay um board members is that it is anyone uh here wishing to speak to this item we've had absolutely no negative communication of any kind through the entire process thank you great thank you i'm not sure there's no one on webex okay take a motion move approval all in favor um so we have finished our regular agenda we're to the board member items mr oakley okay one thing i'd like to bring up is we had a uh i'd like to thank justin rossler and and the solid waste team for all their efforts during the leading up to the lock street community cleanup on july 26th 11.4 tons of solid waste and 561 pounds of hazardous material were collected that time is great job by justin's team staff and team so i appreciate what they did um because i've been on vacation so it feels like it's hard we got to start back to school i guess back to work but uh one thing i want to bring out i heard about it as a yesterday it was a surprise to me but it's i guess i'm going to tell you about it but yet i want to get y'all to tell me when we directed staff and i'm talking about for the area in the uh just off little road boys and girls club where we decided we was going to take care of homeless and we we had some kind of direction at that time i don't remember exactly the date but it was sometime in 2019 or 2020 it's been two or three years but i'm not mistaken and the problem i have is that building building's closed it's not being it's not helping homeless right here now yeah so what are you doing here's my problems i've been questioned by many citizens about okay how we're helping homes right so the problem is it looks like we're not right so the the kathy's here but the residential part of that building is full um where the families are staying it's that office building to the right that and i brought this up because i've i've gone to that residential center many times and i've never seen one car at that one stop or whatever it was called um i don't remember what they called it but it was the homeless coalition and others were supposed to be in there but they all work remote so um i think kathy has a plan for that so i thought yeah yeah sure good afternoon kathy pearson assistant county ministry of public services so coming before you very soon at the

august 24th meeting is a backup so three years ago yes we had the youth lane project it was contracted to the homeless coalition the homeless coalition there's two buildings there one was to be converted into a family shelter the other was to become a one-stop for housing services the coalition did contract with catholic charities catholic charities has been running the family shelter huge success constantly fill helping many many families through that commissioner starkey is correct the homeless coalition has not been utilizing that building once we found that out we approached the county administrator and had an idea about maybe we should move our human services to that building and create the one-stop shop that it should dan biles county administrator at that time said go for it so we've been working on this for a few months because we've had to contact catholic charities they are going to remain on the property we have to break the lease with the homeless coalition so that broken lease i believe is coming before the board on august 24th i can assure you commissioners with human services going in that we've already been working with community partners they are eager and anxious to get in there we've been working with our facilities department they have been gracious enough to help us get where the building needs to be with you know barra's offices and moving our furniture and all that kind of thing good in there so as of october 1st we will be taking over that building and give us a couple of months we need to get people in there get it situated and we will be opening it as a one stop through the council let us know when that happens because yeah i think that's very important i was very shocked to know that nothing was happening well so be clear that we are helping homeless families on the other side it's just the office part was not being used oh i understand but yeah still but yeah i mean we spent a lot of money on something done and yeah working right now yeah we spend all that money and no one uses this we put a so i wasn't going to pile on oh no but no but i don't i do not disagree with the statements have been made about the disappointment because for years and i said on the advisory board for the homeless coalition um their plan was to go in there and provide you know these services which we all thought was going to happen and unfortunately not all oh well the majority of us thought it was going to happen there you go to be clear yeah thank you commissioner and the services are still happening no no we know that they're just not happening there no we know that yes everything the other building is full

you know to house the homeless is full but the services like case management all those things that we thought were going to happen there unfortunately did not happen they're doing it from home all of them well we thought the homeless coalition was going to be in there that was the yeah that was the whole deal i'm doing it for holidays i don't disagree with you so i don't want to that's it i know you're bringing it back to 24th we'll see it then i'm glad you guys are doing it i'm glad you're taking it over it will be closer to home now and you guys will uh build a work and madam chair yeah and you did you explain what you're doing in the offices that you're moving out of yes so that right now the human services department is located at the galen wilson complex and the same complex is go pasco so the human services will move into the new uh youth lane project building and then we will expand transportation that's much needed for that our veterans are still there and um so it's a win-win for us we get some office space well since we're going to mess with patrick then commissioner i'd like to uh challenge you to come back and get all the board members about your department and how because you have a lot of moving parts in it and they're all very important come back and tell us how we stand in those departments under your guidance absolutely and i think that's something we need to just just uplift us and let us know where we're going on something absolutely and we don't hear about all the time yes we definitely will do that thank you i appreciate that yeah we used to have kathy updates kathy yeah kathy wait uh commissioner fitzpatrick has a question remember we're under commissioner items and i'm just really interested uh to see what resources that you are just planning on offering because i know when we went to naco they had everything from visitation rooms for foster kids so a lot of youth and outsourced resources absolutely so i anybody that you all know that's in the not-for-profit world that is looking for some space and want to be part of it send them to brian hogan and myself and we will make sure we get contact with them okay okay thank you all right commissioner i'm done but you shouldn't pull the uh string on me and get rid of me before i tell you i'm done so no we're coming back no i was just trying to remind everyone no no i'm still in commissioner oakley's public comments and we're not going to shortchange him if he has a long list i i don't have a lot of this i'm done yeah okay but this one well i will tell you this if well i usually have a short one but if everybody promises to be as short as me then i'll be short no okay

i agree i'll do this in three minutes first of all welcome back to school tomorrow to all the students and the teachers i know i have some going back to myself as some of you do as well so teachers not the team no kids um i think we do have a couple slides um i know i know it's hard for everybody to get there but i know everybody was invited avalon park um wesley chapel groundbreaking um great great event that's their downtown i think oh it's okay yeah you remember that you remember the downtown i think we approved that jeez in like 18 or 19 when wells was i don't hear about it so a great event um you know they had a jazz band people singing and all kinds of great things but what's cool about it is actually a lot of people from the community actually showed up it just it wasn't just contractors and elected officials it was a lot i see those people sitting there they all live in that community already so it's going to be great for the area classic office space and more some commercial as well they even have a co-working space that's coming as part of phase one they were very complimentary of pascal county i will tell you this so biat khali um in the whole avalon part team they actually praised paso county's staff so mike caballo you know obviously kudos to you and your team because um that's one of the things he kept going over and over again how great pasco county team members were to work with so thank you for that oh the other thing um commissioners not looking for debate or discussion on it really i just wanted to provide some information to correct the record because on may 3rd we're presented the study for the moratorium area boundary the apartment the study broke down apartments under early construction you remember that i said there were some issues with it i even showed a photo of some apartment complexes that were actually very far along in that study they did not they marked them as early construction not to be done this year so so update there are more that are actually going online this year that were not included in that study [Music] one of them is the one across from the grove shopping complex not the one on the grove property but the grove itself shopping complex it's actually they're taking applications and they're moving people in in september so for example that was not included in the study they said it would be sometime in the future so if you look at where we're at report said we have enough deliveries for the next six seven years i'm thinking now with that one that's coming online and all the other ones that have the entitlements in that moratorium area you're gonna look at eight nine ten eleven twelve years um for sure depending on what the market does the market doesn't come back then

it'll be even further um the grove itself it actually broke ground they already had the entitlements already so for years that privacy's been around um they've broken ground on their as well and you're seeing in that area now more and more have broken ground so again i just wanted for the record to say that um there was another instance where that study unfortunately was not 100 correct and with that i moved in i had one more thing but i'm going to wait till next time commercial prison but i would like to say oh that's the backpack drive of course there were many backpack drives and i was able to attend multiple backpack drives and it was really exciting and i even my family got to come and help stuff backpacks and we got to serve our community and i was able to hand out additional backpacks for our community so welcome everyone back to school and next we can go right into the guardrail i had a community reach out to me there had been a couple auto accidents that actually went through that brick wall there cement wall and i was able to help them exhibit with with vencat and their our staff to move forward to make sure they have guardrails so now deer park will have a safe route to school so good thank you staff next i just like to mention i've been getting a lot of calls lately about cleanup and while i was at regions bank i was able to call code and other staff members and it was cleaned up the next day but they are working with different um different commercial buildings to make sure that they do have the no trespassing agreements together and i am happy that code and our sheriff's office is working together and sharing those lists but again it was cleaned up the next day so thank you um the next now i did get some interesting photos which i won't share to the public but you wouldn't want to see them anyway um so i would like to say thank you to the paso county sheriff's office for their quick response in issues in downtown right on the edge of newport richie and also our code enforcement work together to help fix that area up and maybe we can find some more additional affordable housing units out there from looking at these so maybe we can purchase some of the units i would like to go into real quick some of the concerns that our fires fighters keep bringing to us because i would like to say i'm very proud of our board of county commissioners that are up here today and our staff and mike carbala and chief case and everyone for moving forward and facilities and everyone

working together because station nine is going to be opening this fall at the suncoast in 52. station three bid of course closed today and we have been moving forward and mike carbala can move forward so probably a groundbreaking usually that takes a couple months stations two and four are out to design and in engineering and they should be starting construction in spring of 2023 so that's just right around the corner those are the four new stations as for the five rebuild station 17 has we had our ground breaking last year and it should be opening late december and early january station 9 and 17 have been delayed a little bit due to materials and construction delays station 20 we accepted the bid about a month ago and that should have its ground breaking within a month or two station 18 bids closed today as well and we were able to move forward so my car bala can move forward and have our ground breaking in the next couple months and then we still have station 19 22 and of course once that's finished we'll be moving forward with um our training center in fiscal year 2023. so i am very excited to see that all of these stations are moving forward and the majority of them will be built by next year thank you a lot of activity thank you man i'm sure oh he met no chair yeah oh i've had my head in that blog but uh we need to really be thankful for all the citizens we have that we represent here in pasco county because our citizens are the ones that voted in all these new fire stations that were getting yes through the bond i think well not all of them a lot of the wells was here for 2018. that's when it was done and uh if if the citizens hadn't stepped up and voted that in we as a commission would have had to because we need them yeah and uh we still don't need them in the future for all the building we're doing but we've got to be real thankful for our citizens stepping up to take care on some of that burden along with us yeah and when these are done that our citizens will definitely feel the impact yeah in a positive way right let's make that and of course the new um peak hour ambulances that will be coming into place september 19th so yeah very exciting yeah thank you tag under that i wouldn't mind in a a presentation by done by chief cassand to kind of show what we've done and i'll tell you as a commissioner and from all the boards i've been on i think from where we started even 18 years ago to where we are today the level of stations support through the whole fire our department has been phenomenal i mean this pool has been great and like you said the citizens voting it in you know covert made it tough slowed

down a bunch of different things productivity across the board uh supplies across the board getting things through have been difficult but i think what we've got in play we're we're doing it what that gentleman was talking about today we're doing all those things he wanted to go do it's just taking time yeah and i don't know if they hear they hear that i think they hear other things i mean so um we did make that one pager and mike i'd love to have some stack of those on what this board has done uh for for that subject in the last i think we went back five years i'm not sure but i want to make sure that you all got to copy that and keep a copy of that and you can hand it out so that um because it's it's documented there right and even in the past year there's been two groundbreakings and in the next couple months there'll be three more ground breaks that's a lot i mean that's more than and probably more commercial mariano than any time that you've been on the campus absolutely and you know it took a few years to get us started on it and then raising the ms to you but i would love to see them go back like 10 years show the last 10 years what we've done yeah i mean it's it's been outstanding i think yeah so granted the growth we're a little behind but all the resources the resources there to go the rescues coming in have been phenomenal will be phenomenal even the ones we've got already so i think we're doing all the right things as quick as we can and i think in a very short period of time they'll be in great shape yeah all right okay like to talk about a couple of different things um one second and i've talked to uh administrator carmella most utmp governments have a full-time sustainability residency position uh i know resiliency come in position we've got to come on hillsboro's got it pinellas got it sarasota's got it clearwater deneen largo oldsmar saint pete safety harbor tampa so i'm glad to see we're going that way uh coming forward there's also an opportunity like never before to get do we have to we've got one positions there so we have a principle we have a principal planner that kind of has a designation and we've got a few other staff positions throughout the county that kind of do that type of work yes okay so but if we're going to put a grant in do we have the title for the person to say in terms of grants no for resiliency we need a resiliency position is there a position that that person has got in their title to say that i don't believe so can we add that if that's what it takes to get a grant i mean if that's what it takes we certainly can let's explore that okay understand please um

and you know going through listening to different things um there's an opportunity for a uh a sea grant agent through the university of florida they pay part of it we pay the other part uh i'd like to have mr cabela bring that back to us we've already talked about as well but i just want you to be aware it's coming there's a tremendous amount of federal money that's out there a lot of state money and i think this sea grant thing one of the things that we that i saw that was very intriguing you know we talked about the trash out in the gulf we've seen different things out there that can control it baffle boxes that i've talked about don't work on the coast but there's a thing called a litter box i'll say they spell it lita litter box that actually takes the trash before it hits the canal and holds onto it it's going to take maintenance down the road but the project looks phenomenal for all those pipes that we got that just lets water drain in and go out we can put those along there's a position for a sea grant agent to go do that and i want mr carville to bring it back to go let us get a presentation on let's go take a look at it so we want to explore that unlike years before where it's tough to get federal grants as we know tiger grant's almost impossible this is something that's really we should be going after to take a look at next thing i want everyone to take a close look uh to swift mud uh and i say that in a way where they brought they dropped down their rates this past year so they cut the taxes down for folks which is good but i think it's to start affecting our co-funding projects so it's going to be important i know you mean they're going to have less money to less money yes and there's something else going to lead to as well so we need to make sure we get all our projects through as quick as we can to get them out in the street to get bid take a flexible look as far as if we think we can do a project in-house especially with those one that one bid down in colonial matter was a million dollars higher if we look like we can do this in-house we got the right team to do it then we should do that in part with swift mods approval obviously so so we don't lose our funding but to keep that in mind um and mr starkey chairman and commissioner oakley you guys sit on the ten bay water board swift swiftman's afraid or thinks from what i gather that there may be a lot of money going to tempe water for new water sources i want you to just be careful every bit that we're going through may take some of their money that could go to other cooperative stuff so i just want to be careful that as you guys sit in that committee just take take a close look as it comes along because i think we still

need we still have we've made so much progress and mike you know you've done a phenomenal job of stormwater i want to still keep this momentum going uh every step of the way because we're fixing a lot of the flooding now we can focus on water quality to really improve the coast and i'll say one other thing the agenda item that was pulled today on the restaurant funding uh something very important that was in debate for years on the restore council was about using funding that was approved through the restore act whether you can get leveraging the money from the state of federals and there was a lady sherry herring from gulf county the office of budget and budget director she had brought a point that came at the end of the restaurant council meeting the last consortium we had where part one money and part three are now considered non-federal dollars and can be used in matching applications so no no longer do we have to take it and not use it for the match the determinations that are out there look to go that way now the tricky part is it does she does say that each agency could interpret differently i.e dp or so it's going to be something when they need to go work on with our legislators and and above and tallahassee to get that change to go because the consortium and treasury both agree that these dollars can be used in matching situations so it's something we need to be focused on and going forward it's a new it's a new development as a last month and just confirmed and the reason again the reason i asked for that item to be pulled not that i pulled it but it's because i didn't want to lose a chance of matching that five million dollars with another five and that's all i have okay um the county administrator acting county administrator interim um i gave the whole title thank you ma'am uh just uh three quick things the uh wanted to let you know that uh tomorrow our new website will launch both internally and externally to the county so it's supposed to be at 10 a.m so let's not crash it at once just you know hit it hit it at some different times there but that'll be out we've seen it it looks great it's a it's a brand new much uh much better looking feel also wanted to mention that our emergency management team members of that uh have deployed to kentucky to assist in a two-week endeavor to help uh with the with the flooding out there it provides vital support to those folks and also provides good training opportunities to our team members and it's fully reimbursable so a fantastic deal there the only other thing is if i could get board approval to a point uh to remove myself from the fgua board and appoint

david allen our very capable utilities director that would be great uh all in favor aye aye aye you got it thank you did it that's all ma'am thank you okay who's next you that would be me okay but i don't do anything to think you had your opportunity i don't i don't have anything either thank you wow well you're going so fast actually we're done and i bet i barely have anything um so i i have a stack of papers back in my office but since i've been on vacation and i traveled 26 hours yesterday um half of what nine and a half hours of which i was trapped in my seat by someone who should have had two seats could not use my right arm for nine and a half hours i literally had to eat with my left hand um um i'm not going to go into it in detail but i am going to remember something that one of the top guys at the national association of home builders said to us at my community economic development workforce board was that and this was also told to me at the uli conference is the united states is three and a half million residences short and their capacity is about a million and a half a year and so they're not keeping up with with it and um there's a national home shortage and we had this discussion in my committee about um you know homeless and it's happening the challenges that we have are everywhere um although one of the gentlemen actually someone that moved here recently said that denver is now the san francisco of the rocky mountains as far as homeless people living in their downtown area so pretty sad um while i was in oregon i saw the tent cities yeah it's bad near the interstates they're in norway yeah they live under the bridges and on the highways so um but but and i i should have texted her earlier um before i left to go out west i was listening in on a conversation and um i heard one of our local people who runs one of the 501c3s that helps um out on the 19 corridor she had mentioned that in the last 10 days she had 50 families approach her organization for help with housing because they were all about to be homeless because their rents had gone up and they couldn't afford it and this was two or three weeks ago they had placed eight families they were able to place eight families in motel rooms which is not sustainable and i do not know what happened to the rest of those families that they went into the woods or what happened and um so we we i think we have

some big challenges coming to us especially on our side because you know it's very dense and that's where a lot of those families that are monetarily challenged live i am having a town hall i don't remember the date since september the county administrator will be there i think kathy's going to be there this is this is not a typical town hall for us to bring ideas and information to our residents this is for us to be able to listen to our residents uh specifically in that area of southwest pasco county so just want to make sure we we all get um understand what's going on over there so um with that i'll just talk more about nato next time i was very happy to be reappointed vice vice chair of cewd and vice chair of international and i'm on the luck in a large urban county caucus though i didn't really learn much on that one this time so um with that oh one more thing the national home builder guy said you know those green boxes that go into subdivisions and have the power it's kind of a some kind of electrical junction box yeah one year back long you can't get those for one year so yeah can i bring up one thing that i checked i mentioned to you as far as at the naco summer things they talked about and they had a great economic development presentation yeah and this presentation talked about how people nowadays kind of like what richard flores said years ago with his book about you know hoosier city the people picking where they want to live first it is now even more essential that every area looks to attract people for different reasons people pick to where they want to live even more so now and they they stated so much the amenities were critical boulder colorado they say now so it's outside of denver is like the riding capital of the world transport all the trails they have yeah just phenomenal all the extra activities that are out there so everything we can do to improve our amenities every step of the way is going to bring jobs because it's going to bring people by improving quality of life that's what they're focused on so all these years of your trails is like mirrored around the nation right now you know our county is so special and that you know before it was a real negative ass negative thing that we had the other counties well fields but now those are giant areas of conservation that we can look to as as like open park space if we if we access them like that and i know we're working on a plan that will be coming back to all of us on crossbar and um and i'd like to see that kind of utilization um

used on all of them but it makes us a very unique county to have those those large open spaces so okay we're adjourned thank you [Music] so [Music] boys and wildlife depend on you to keep them healthy excess fertilizer grass clippings trash oils and pet waste wash into gutters and storm drains when it rains storm water carries these pollutants directly into our lakes and rivers creating an