05.03.2022 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

[Music] [Applause] so [Music] all right thank you i have another stretch here thank you okay i'm now going to call back to order the pasco county board of county commission meeting for may 3rd 2022 please silence all electronic devices and mute your microphones if you're homeless so we will proceed with public hearings starting with ordinances we will start with p 54. item p 54 was published in the tampa bay times on march 23 2022 okay madam chair commissioners my name is ed zodian i'm a planner with long range whoops excuse me the matter before you is a proposed amendment to the land development code section 902 the proposed amendments were presented to the horizontal round table and interested parties meeting excuse me on march 16th and on april 7th the lpa voted unanimously to find the proposed ordinance consistent with the pasco county comprehensive plan and recommended approval of the ordinance to this board just by way of background for a moment the current process is this at a with an initial application a site plan is filed with all the horizontal features before the slab is poured a form board survey is provided and reviewed a form board survey does provide the elevations and setback issues and then prior to the co a grading affidavit an approved grading plan and an as-built survey is provided the proposed process will retain those first two steps and then prior to the co a grading affidavit an approved grading plan will also be approved as well as an elevation certificate and as built will only be required if the site sits within a fema declared flood zone the first amendment is in section k-1 it removes the engineer of record to inspect a lot upon completion and complete the as built certification prior to the issuance of the certificate of occupancy the second amendment it's i'm sorry the section k 4c it has a certificate of completion and affidavit of lot grading and finished floor elevation compliance be provided it for buildings and structures and flood hazard areas an elevation certificate as well as an as-built survey demonstrating conformance to the approved stormwater management plan

it removes the asbill survey and log grading requirement from all other aspects today we ask that you accept public comment on this matter no public excuse me no action is required by the board this is the first of two meetings the second is scheduled for july 12 here in dade city might answer any questions we have someone here from ucs to answer your questions as well board members any questions this was long overdue um did anyone want to speak on this one there is no one jennifer's going to speak good afternoon commissioners my name is jennifer motzinger and i represent the tampa bay builders association i just wanted to say thank you very much to all of you and to your staff for working with us to get this accomplished and we are 110 in support of this thank you very much okay so that requires no action correct so we'll move on to p55 item p55 was published in the tempe times on march 16 2022. good afternoon madam chair commissioners uh item p55 is pd220241 uh today is the adoption hearing on this item so we ask that you accept public comment and adopt by roll call vote um i'll read the ordinance title it's an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners amending the pasco county land development code chapter 800 natural and cultural resource protection section 802 tree preservation and replacement chapter 900 development standards section 905 greek space requirements and standards subsection 905.2 landscaping and buffering subsection 905.3 plantings in the right of way of residential subdivisions providing for applicability repealer for providing for severability inclusion the land development code and an effective date a full presentation on this item was done on april 19 22 and uh this comes to you with a recommendation from the lpa that you find it the lpa found it consistent with the comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board of county commissioners and that went to the lpa on april 7th so um board members i was not here at the last meeting was at the uli conference and so i did have a few things i wanted to bring up and one i forgot to talk to you about but i'll bring up the one i talked to you about first and i see patrick's behind you so um an example board members is a development called the preserve and when they came in for their commercial retail um it came in as in one big piece and um can you speak to it in your language and on the problem and how we're gonna fix it yeah sure i can do that um so we had a development that came in um for the record you are

yeah sorry for the record uh patrick dudder planning and development department um thank you um so we had a project come in for development it was a commercial developments and um that development came in as as one entire piece more or less with a whole bunch of different buildings around it uh we have a requirement in our code that's had for lot perimeter landscaping so you landscape around the lots so all of this development was more or less considered one lot so the internal landscaping between the buildings and really the internal sites wasn't really required to have any perimeter landscaping the only landscaping that would have been required was vehicle use area landscaping so i believe their request is for us to take a look at potentially having landscaping median planting requirements installed where that would be prevented in the future well um i don't know what the right term is and if you want to pull up um on google earth the preserve which is suncoast m54 uh we can show where the where the problem is i actually have photographs but i'm not going to send them up to you know i think if we just go to google earth you can see um so in discussions with staff a road internal to a development is not not doesn't have the same landscape requirements along the edge and so for example in google er in a preserve someone there there's a green wise publix have you guys been in there to the preserve what's in my you know 50 54 on the suncoast that's one of our premier intersections so between the green wise publix and uh i think it's a cvs and there's chipotle there's no there's no landscaping the perimeter roads have nothing and the interior roads i'm sorry and and it looks really not premier so i want to make sure that we're catching those kind of um situations in our landscape code and so i'm not sure that uh what you said wasn't i are we going to call those islands those so we like you said we don't really have a definition for what that area is called looking briefly at some other areas they call them uh landscape medians landscape medians which i was looking at hartford's code they called them landscape medians without that area between the dry vial and the parking stalls landscape islands are the ones that jut out into the parking yeah so they were calling on landscape medians we could you know tweak it a little bit to make its um

you know account for for what you're expecting to happen here for sure okay so um so do you see the um this is for my board members do you see the preserve marketplace boulevard nothing no landscaping it's really sad um and so um and that's gonna happen when they add the other parcels it's so that so uh and for some reason there's no you know there's no perimeter landscaping around the public so somehow i think there's a there's a flaw in our plan and um i'm hoping that'll catch it so no sure yeah just going back so again making the assumption here that in our code it basically says the frontage has to have the landscaping uh essentially yes yeah not okay even though in reality like the chairwoman stated you have access on the side of this and it can be almost considered frontage in a way yeah right yeah yeah so just something that when the code was right it was missed uh essentially yeah so there there are three big categories when it comes to landscaping one is your your lot primer landscaping which is around the lot itself which is like you said the frontages or the side properties then you have your building perimeter landscaping which is right up next to the building exactly how it sounds and then we have the vehicle use area landscaping so if you're in a vehicle use area you're required to have ten percent of your vehicle use area landscaped um so that's really the only thing so because this is basically one giant vehicle use area they're really only required to meet that 10 vehicle use area rule i'm not sure why we would call that a one vehicle use area seems like the vehicle used area should just for it should be for each pad not for one whole development sure um i can't think of any other place i'm going to be paying more attention to it now but when i drive in to say mitchell ranch plaza or i can't i can't think of any other place where people didn't just go ahead and put landscaping in because that's it calls for it but obviously if we don't require it they're not going to put it in so yes and it's disappointing but so i think we've got that fixed the the other question i have for you is um um and i brought this up on a on a conversation with the industry um when a develop development comes in and they do a tree survey um before before they and i'm not sure if this will be in the same area so if it's not we'll fix it somewhere else okay

if they come in and they do a tree survey and we i guess we are messing with that here who goes back to see if those trees were actually planted and if they're still there after time goes by uh so good question um i believe that when the tree surveys are done um they have they'll hire professionals to go out there and do that tree survey uh and then i believe that is adopted that tree survey is more or less well approved with the set of plans that we approve showing which areas are going to be removing trees and which ones aren't going to be removing trees they will then develop according to that plan and then we have our engineering inspections team will go up and follow up with plans that have been approved to ensure that they are being constructed accordingly yeah and that and from what i'm hearing that doesn't really happen that we don't assign someone to go and i'm taught i'm not talking about necessarily the trees that go you know we have a tree for every house but we also have requirements that they put trees um in open spaces and i'm actually digging into the key vista plans that was done a long time ago right but i've always wondered how key vista can be there with no trees when um that place was heavily wooded when i came here i don't know who else if anyone ever drove out to the holiday rec center jack you've been here a while you drove through that tunnel of oak trees the most beautiful road to get and now there's no trees in that development so i just want to make sure that we have a mechanism where we have staff that goes back and makes sure that the trees are there and and so sure and and so that is what our engineering is so key vista i know is a pretty old subdivision i don't know what regulations were in place at that time when it came to tree removal and replacement and that sort of entry survey and they had to put x amount of trees back in sure it's just i think it's it's just something that i think where we've dropped the ball just like we're not holding commercial buildings to sure keep up their landscaping we haven't been i'm not sure we went and verified that what was needed got done okay and it's still there so in in some instance so there's a um a board-imposed rule when it comes to removing trees that's you know let's say you have a heavily dense parcel a very large parcel with a lot of trees on it there's a cap on how many trees you actually have to replace and how much you have to pay into our tree mitigation fund right um so that's

probably what happens in some instances too where trees are removed and that type of thing yeah so chairman yes what's your home madam chair sorry either way you just said there's a max so if they cut down 200 trees they only have to i don't know what the max is so if they cut down 200 trees they would only have to do a max of 100 trees of replanting uh there there's a threshold more or less yes i mean it's it's much larger the size of the tree it's yeah it's five inches or larger in circum and uh it's five i think it might be ten um but yeah right here and but there is a cap and again the cap we're talking about with its much larger areas that we're talking about if you can get me that number that would be wonderful sure thank you madam chair i helped write that a long time ago yes um with the uh with the plan it says shade trees does that include palm trees so to use a palm tree as a shade tree you have to use a grouping of three palms together to count as a shade tree but you can't do that for every single shade tree or other some sites would be straight palm trees so i think it's we allow up to 30 of the required shade trees to be palm trees in those groupings do you think it's going to prohibit or keep people from putting in palm trees or not um so we all obviously allow the flexibility of doing alternative standards applications so when we have projects that have a specific um for instance a lot of projects near the beach right they'll want to put in those palm trees we understand that our code requires shade trees but sometimes the field near the beaches palm trees are better right so they'll apply for an alternative standard and will allow them to plant palm trees instead of all those shade trees so like three tall palm trees instead of just one shade tree correct and they look funny when it's just one unless it's something and there are some species of palm trees that we allow to be planted by themselves where we were terming them as as grand palms more or less and these are you know some of those massive species that you see um yeah exactly so those can count as a shade tree um but if you're using some of the smaller palm trees they have to be grouped in threes let me say smaller do you mean from installation or from growth um when i mean i mean i mean the thinner ones uh the the palm trees that you're used to seeing driving down the road i mean they get some of the bush palms that probably go up a little bit footage maybe 10 15 feet or

something but there's other other ones around that takes a while for them to grow but they grow pretty tall i just would hate to you may get some situations where a palm tree is going to fit well not affect the sidewalk next we put a shade tree in there and now you got a situation where you're affecting sidewalks yeah that's that's why we love palm trees and i also i also think that the palm tree may be better for uh especially in the frontage area for car dealers and we've talked about that in our meeting with um larry morgan and scott fink that sometimes they've been putting oak trees and that's not maybe the best thing to have over a bunch of cars but they they really like the idea of being able to use the palm trees so by having them in clusters of three if you have like three of them all together compared to if they were stretched out along the way it may look better with them stretched out along the way so quantity wise i don't mind even increasing the quantity but just having them to be clustered together i don't think is the ultimate but they can always ask for that sure yeah there's there's that's the one of the main reasons we have the alternative standard is for those instances where we want that flexibility i'll tell you alternative standards it's just like a variance that's we try to get away from variances so why bring them through that just given i'd rather just give them the option to stretch out more of the palm trees than to have them clustered i think they can cluster it i think they can right you just have to it's the quantity is greater without an alternative standard so so currently we the code will require them to be grouped in oh three so i'd rather have to group it if it's supposed to be a shade tree and then if it's on the corner then it would be makes sense to have a group of three on the corner of a lot or in the middle of a median or things like that because you want to provide shade but i do like the fact of separating the palm trees if it's along the front edge of the road open to the board depends on the palm tree you wouldn't cluster big trunked palm trees in a group of three but yeah like the little thin ones yeah there are quite a lot of factors that you know different type of tree different location you know there's a lot of that stuff but currently the rule is you know yes if you're going to replacing a shade tree it needs to be a grouping of three palms all right so what i what i don't want to see is like up on you us 19 northern hudson they've got palm trees in the median for part of their beautification but they're really small and they don't look good to me the way they're set up it would have

been better if they were bigger but work with d.o.t was a different issue but i think if you have a larger tree it can stand alone by itself i don't mind if you look at putting more of them in there but just able to stagger them i think would be better than just having one and how and how far would they be apart normally a shade tree 20 to 30 feet uh if it's along a frontage it'll be 30 feet apart so i mean i i don't even mind if we go like every 10 feet with a palm tree well they would they would have to put in three times the palm trees for every shade tree whether they're okay with that but left they need to stretch them out talk about that look like yeah drive so okay yeah so again we just define it as grouping of three and we interpret it to be three really close together so i i would think we could make that line can we add those i like it the way it is within ten feet apart from each other if it's a group of three i'm okay with just even 10 feet apart they want to separate let them decide how they want to set it let them set their look so so keep them together but let the them figure out the design is that well i'm i'm inclined to leave it as it is um you guys i i think we spent enough time i know that's why i need to hear from you yeah because yeah move for approval second leslie do we have uh all in favor aye aye oh roll call okay sorry i thought we did yeah except for the change wait a second you did you you didn't you took patrick you didn't take the public oh i guess we'll let them spend i have no one signed up for anyone added to our palm tree discussion i'll i'll say move for approval again second can we hear it i want to clarify if um with the changes for the interior lens i would agree with that so america okay can we hear oh did you want to say something oh no i was going to get a clarification whether it's with the changes that you're proposing regarding the yes yeah that's that is thank you district one commissioner oakley aye district two commissioner moore district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano seeing no one from the development committee stepping up okay district three chairman starkey aye okay moving on let me see where we are because i do need to pull something up to the front for mr two we're on p56 okay all right p56 item p56 was published on tampe times on march 9th 2022. p56 is pdd220261 denise hernandez planning and

development this is an ordinance among the pasco county comprehensive plan providing for text amendments chapter 7 transportation elements like table 7-2-8 corridor preservation repealing takes table 7-2-b map amendments to highway vision plan and functional class class map 7-36 and the transportation quarter preservation maps map 7-35 and additional text amendments for consistency um this item we're asking today that this is adoption um the adoption hearing for this one that you accept public comment and adopt by roll call vote um this went to first reading on march 3rd 2022 and it went to the local planning agency on november 4th 21 who found it consistent with a comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board okay sorry i was checking on something all right so any questions anyone signed up what does no one signed up on item p56 okay to the board any is there anyone in the audience that wants to speak to b-56 or online seeing no one moving and no one is online is this also we'll get a motion a second motion thank you district one commissioner oakley aye district two commissioner district four commissioner fitzpatrick district five commissioner mariano district three chairman starkey aye thank you okay um let me uh check on something for mr two um he has uh you want to leave it okay all right so then we are on 57 halfway through this next one don't say 57. i'm sorry item p-57 was published in the template times on january 19th 2022. all right good afternoon commissioners elizabeth blair pasco county attorney's office this is the first public hearing on an ordinance entitled an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners establishing a temporary moratorium 180 days on the submission and acceptance of applications for building permits site plans special exception uses conditional uses rezonings and comprehensive plan amendments within the moratorium areas around airports in pasco county providing for authority legislative findings effect definitions moratorium areas temporary moratorium imposed duration of temporary moratorium and severability as previously directed by the board of county commissioners that there would be a moratorium on the development of land around the airports in pasco county an initial draft of that ordinance was circulated and brought to our airport zoning commission as well as our planning commission and on march 3rd the lpa recommended approval of the initial moratorium that had multiple

off-ramps for development to continue in pasco county during the time of the moratorium while allowing that development to meet certain state standards and federal standards since that time there was some opposition that arose to that moratorium and led to uh two different mooring drafts of moratorium being reduced to you or brought to you following meetings with the planning development department representatives development community drafted a moratorium ordinance however in the opinion of the county attorney's office the development community moratorium ordinance does not prohibit any development around airports that's not already prohibited by state or federal law or county policy and effectively would not be a moratorium at all so since that time and after consultation with each of you a redrafted moratorium ordinance was prepared by the county attorney's office and the moratorium areas of that ordinance are strictly reduced that is the ordinance that's in your packet with the attachments exhibit a the moratorium areas proposed by that ordinance are much smaller they're oval in size they're called noise abatement areas also known as airport zoning protection areas they're measured based upon a formula in florida statute where the oval is half the size of the runway all the way around also within that moratorium ordinance we recognized that there was some need for additional off-ramps or exceptions so we did create four proposed exceptions we wanted to go ahead and continue to exempt the primary target industries that would keep zephyr hills economic development projects moving forward we also would allow for building permit applications that had been determined to meet faa standards but not creating a hazard air navigation to go forward that specifically was geared to protect the campbell property which already has vested rights to go forward we also made an exception for the project on ridge road because it had a conceptual plan approved by all of you that does not allow for any buildings to be located in the moratorium area and we also of course would allow for the local airports to continue to pull building permits and move forward because they're subject to their own standards and rules on april 18 2002 the airport zoning commission reviewed the county attorney's office proposed moratorium ordinance and recommended that that moratorium be the one adopted by this board since that time it has been suggested that land uses within the proposed moratorium areas further be defined to prohibit residential and educational facilities in doing so there was no longer a concern to allow for economic development projects in suffer hills since it would be taken out of any potential moratorium so i did make that change to that document it's in front of you labeled as p57

and if you'll look on page three of that document i've included language that provides score in section five that the moratorium area would be then limited within those oval-shaped areas still but now only prohibiting residential and educational facilities i've also included definition of educational facilities and residential in section three of that proposed ordinance so for today what's before you is to hold the first public public hearing except public comment and to continue the final public hearing which was to be for today to may 17 2022 or we've also provided an alternative board action for you which is to cancel the final public hearing for this moratorium ordinance and decline to adopt any moratorium origins for any areas around airports in pasco county and instead direct staff in the county attorney's office to only regulate areas around airports through the future airport zoning regulations ordinance any questions for me at this time madam chair yeah see that's first of all commercial patrick just to confirm because the biggest concern that i i have heard was one we will be using one half the runway for the airport moratorium correct correct but when the noise abatement study comes in then we would be adopting the noise study for the updated zone correct um the ordinance for you does allow for in section three the definition of noise abatement areas to be that measurement and florida statutes as you pointed out also in section five we have a statement in the ordinance that allows for the noise abatement areas to be modified should the county's consultants noise studies be completed during the time of this moratorium and are adopted by the board so once those are complete we can bring those right to you for adoption okay any other questions i know you got to take public comments still these are just some things i want to take into consideration a little bit um again how large is the oval it is dependent upon the size of the runway because it's specific to each runway so for example on pilot country it is 1800 1800 feet approximately so that's half the length of the runway and then when you end up turning it into the oval like is in your packet um and each runway is a little bit different and zephyr hills has two runways so you see the two levels there and those are larger than the other okay so um let's go over a couple so let's look at separate hills how large is that

total don't there's is for runway 5 and 23 it's 2500 and for runway 1 in 19 it's 23 47. so that number again um i know the answer is just we're going to do it for the people at home and and the people in the audience 2500 from the runway or the circumference of the oval was 2500 feet it's from the runway it's a radius all the way around the one runway is one half so what makes up all the runway and legs so let's go to um tampa north arrow park that's a shorter runway mm-hmm i think this is it people can knock their heads i think that's shorter than pilot country yes it is so that runway goes across that that oval goes across 75. correct right so i'm going to use this as an example um i know that area very well place fly over my house does not bother me whatsoever we think it's kind of cool actually you know the kids love it they see the planes coming over and stuff and i i know we want to do something obviously to protect the runways we want to make sure that it's not impeded the flight pattern is unrepeated the approach and is not impeded um takeoff's unimpeded the whole nine yards um but when it comes to noise this is where i guess i have a little bit of an issue and i say that because if you move into a neighborhood you should be familiar there's an airport next to it or it's in with a certain amount of distance and then come back later and say well this noise is bothering me well that's on you you made you made that decision yourself i use where i live because planes fly over to tampa north air apart if anybody knows that area when you go down 75 do you think they're going to hit your car sometimes kind of neat right um it's kind of cool you know they're low flying you see it you know do you not remember when you were younger did you ever get a tia and like park the side and watch the planes fly over and lay on your hood of your car we used to do that there's a feat you can hang out in st martin where they yeah yes so when we talk about having a noise abatements a noise abatement area i think about tia for example people are building multi-million dollar homes which would be in a noise abatement area in south tampa and close to the airport you have multi-million dollar condos and

homes davis davison is a great example i totally forgot about that airport picture yeah that's another example of an airport so point being is that um you know who who are we protecting with the noise here you know we're you're protecting people that should have known when they bought a house or built a house there's an airport by it that doesn't really concern me too much and that's like you made it this is where the regulation is right that we talk about that though so i want to make sure you know that we are having that discussion that's a big part of this discussion as we can see what's on the screen so that's one of my huge concerns when it comes down to this again we want to make sure people are able to fly in and out safely and get back and forth to their airport but when it comes to the noise factor taking into consideration the airport protection zone there are four elements and the four elements that have to be addressed are height compatibility based on the noise study or based on noise landfill and then runway protection zone and those are the four elements so sound is gonna the noise is gonna be addressed and there was an email that someone was thanking the board of county commissioners for implementing an airport protection zone because they didn't want to hear the noise so and i explained that's not really what the airport protection zone is and i believe there was an airport and someone can correct me if i'm wrong in clear water or surrounding areas that they did have to start limiting their hours of operation due to the noise constraints so therefore we do want to protect the airports to make sure there is not an issue where the citizens are up in arms and having to be able to have a say and then shut down the airport madam sheriff as well i'm doing it myself can we go to uh hidden lake airport and on hidden lake people in that area that live there know there's airport they live there their homes are there so they're there because of the noise and they know the noises there so [Music] i don't know if this does this cross the property we've we've already approved the zoning and all on up i call it resort tanglewood and ridge road correct and that's why there's an exception created for that is it in the circle if the portion of the property that's in the

circle is their dog park a gazebo a detention pond but no structures that's why i had that okay here's my concern about it does that stop them because they've got their approval but they haven't pulled a permit yet does if we put this in place for six months does that stop them from receiving their permit because i've heard otherwise no and does it keep them from moving forward because when they went forward with this project they answered all the questions about faa and and everything because that was one of the big issues around that area and the noise and and the area around there for line of flight of planes and all they went through all that if this prohibits them from going forward and pulling their permit then it stops them six months and then they have to come back and prove again through the faa and all which we all voted for exception number four their exception number four on page four section five they're they're they're not covered by this moratorium at all they have an exception to it okay yep are we going down the line still no i wasn't done before you're jumping back i'm sorry place is right here um yeah just go into commissioner oakley's statement so if we look at he named a certain potential developer there could be others yeah yeah well you wouldn't have been able to build the college yeah right that's true when i so i go back i go back into the um multi-family moratorium that just ended big fan right we all know that at the same time at the same time one of the things i said when we did that was if somebody has their entitlements they have an application in it can't affect them right this board can say no for whatever reason if it you know if it goes against the top plane and things like that but is there any type of future developments around any of these airports which would have to do anything differently or do something additional to what they bought the process they've already gone through to get their entitlements do they have to go back and do a noise abatement study would they have to do anything else whatsoever if this were into if this were to come into effect after the moratorium if the actual policy were during the course of the moratorium they couldn't do anything if they don't need an exception during the course of the moratorium itself they can't do anything unless they meet one of the exceptions okay so so okay so so somebody that already has gone through the approvals of this board and received entitlements they would not be allowed to move forward with the project even though this board gave them permission they could pull a building permit under number two

so if that's what you're asking if they have to they have to prove up though under the faa that they're not a hazard to air navigation but if you already had your site plan you could pull a building permit so to my knowledge there aren't any projects stuck in the middle from what i've been told but i think that maybe planning and development folks may be able to answer more specific questions if you have about a particular project um but bear in that when the course of the actual when the regulations are actually adopted they would be forced to go through something addition to what we already have now in our code if you were asking that they would have to say that one more time once the regulations are actually adopted at the end of the moratorium there will be additional criteria that some developments would have to go through if based upon where they're located you know in the part 77 surface within some obstruction area so yes there will be new things that people will have to do in the future even if they already have their rezoning for example because the rules will kick in its site plan or building permit time yeah so that's one of my issues right again we've told somebody that stood in front of us and spent their money and went through the process that they can move forward with something and now we're potentially you know it's true we're potentially changing potentially changing the rules right in essence right that's that'd be the fact is now you're required to do more than you were previously told it may have been a year or two long process that you went through got your approvals you know hooray we're ready to move forward and and now oh we have to do more so now it's more now it also costs more right because they're gonna have to have land use attorneys and whoever's doing the studies and everything to go through potentially another process right you know i mean that kind of concerns me so i go back to the again the multi-family one that we did before which obviously was a sport but i said there's no way anyhow we can make them people already have it they haven't done it don't like it but that's not fair if we didn't if we took that away all right so there lies madam chair yep this was brought up in 2016 and the county was supposed to adopt an airport an apz by june of 2017 and we still don't have one set up right so oh wait where where yeah there's a lot of counties and cities that unfortunately or unfortunately or whatever you want to say don't have them either well i think we should have what we're supposed to have

we we might say don't do something just we don't have what was required in 2016 we don't have anything so when the rules changed in 2016 became effective other jurisdictions already had rules in place they had to tweak we've had nothing so we're the disadvantage that way and i've spoken to the stakeholders and the ones i know the biggest concern recently was they were concerned with one half the runway distance radius around the runway they would like to see the noise the um the noise study be utilized one of the main concerns i think was we cannot move forward with the apz until we receive the noise study back but if we can move forward with the moratorium so we can stop worrying about the moratorium and move our focus to the apc so we can finalize the apz as soon as the apz is completed then the moratorium will be over well okay so i have a question on that i heard that study maybe have come in last night what we got was the mapped data points for lack of a better word i don't know so we don't have the actual noise contour studies basically the consultant took the data provided to her and she put it into the computer program and now she's asking for verification that what she did was correct and then that will actually then after that point in time create the noise contour studies you actually can look on a map and see where those lines are so that's eminent that's not done yet that's what it's but it's supposed to happen this month this month okay and we can adopt that and in section 5a it does say as soon as a noise study comes in we'll be utilizing the noise study and not half of the runway all right so i i'm i'm with the thoughts of commissioner moore that if you buy a house near an airport you can expect that there's going to be planes landing at the airport um and but in talking with elizabeth you know i think we had told the one neighborhood well you have to put in your hoa documents that or something that they sign that they're moving in near an airport um from what from what we gather there is that doesn't mean they can't sue so i'm just wondering if thinking of how agriculture is protected in the state of florida if we don't need to ask our legislators to protect airports because if you move if you move with the sound if you move near an airport you need to expect the sound you move next to my blueberry farm you're going to hear the gun go off staring the birds and i and so highways i think when you get to a highway close to the highway yeah i mean you're going to hear the cars constantly yeah

but you know people are so happy and i just think we all we need to protect our airports madam chair do we have public comment uh we do and we have um we have um thank you barbara wilhelm thanks i'm sure there may be more questions barbara wahlheid has a presentation there may be others signed up there's five signed up um okay there might be more but there's five signed up okay barbara why don't you do your presentation and we're here and just for the record no one is on webex okay okay barbara has requested five minutes to speak for a group barbara will height 6327 permit excuse me grand boulevard 3 4 6 5 2. i could probably speak about this for an hour i'm actually tired of speaking about it i did one thing that was characterized by attorney blair was that the members of the development community drafted an ordinance that's not true mr petos asked for some reasons to be made to the draft ordinance and um i was the scrivener so i was his scrivener i did not put forth any draft ordinance so just want to clear that up so in conversations regarding this topic which i've learned a lot about unfortunately i've been asked over and over and over what is what are you actually required to do and so i just want to go over that briefly because you haven't been presented that yet i didn't see it in the agenda memo anywhere so i don't know if you actually know what you're required to do so then you can distinguish when you're being asked to do something more than you're required to do so this is your your comp plan you have a comp plan that specifically spells out what you are required to do what you wanted to do what you said you were going to do and what you adopted to do based upon florida statutes and you just did that in december so this talks about the ensuring the airport protection and exactly what you're going to do there's two components of airport zoning regulations airport protection zoning regulations airport protection that's height you're protecting the airport nothing more important to protecting an airport than heights so you don't have obstructions that airplanes run into and then there's a second component of airport zoning regulations under florida law it's airport land use compatibility and that's where you have landfills dress landfills because of wildlife attractants noise contours land use compatibility and one-way protection zones those are the four components of what you're required to do by ford statues height is intuitive that's one of the things you have to to deal with landfills intuitive wildlife

same thing for pilot country you can see if we use the purple as if you use the flights that go on and the noise contours that's created at tampa excuse me at st pete clearwater and then what's being proposed out here the statute this is the statute and this is where that half a mile excuse me half a distance of runway all the way around comes from if you look at c it talks about where there hasn't been a noise study and then it talks about where it has been a noise study on c and where there hasn't been a noise study on d so you have noise studies underway so you should be following c which is to follow the noise study and then follow the 14 cfr part 150 appendix a which i showed you to determine what's incompatible within those noise studies contours as a result of noise study what's also interesting if you read this statutory provision is that it doesn't just apply to any airports this noise and these noise studies it actually applies to airport authorities and governing bodies operating public use airports but that being said the county has decided to treat all of the airports the same whether they're operated and owned and operated by zephyr hills the municipal government or they're privately owned the county has said we're going to do noise studies and we're going to treat them the same even if they're public private or private private but the statute actually only requires incompatibility and noise contours for airport where an authority runs it or the government runs it this is your your consultant and i basically just put in here the solution is i think it was discussed is to just use those noise contours for your your noise abatement areas um because you can see the difference between where these large areas are that are just arbitrary under the statute where you don't have a noise study and what the noise study is i'll let doug saunders come up whenever he wants to speak to you about these slides here because they they're actually created by him and i did hear liz elizabeth blair talk about the ordinance and say okay well i've got in there that one's complete once these noise abatement areas or these noise break mirrors maybe may be modified should the county consultants study be completed during the time the moratorium and and are adopted that leaves a lot of maize and shoulds and ours and what i'd ask to be fair to all property owners is that you actually get your noise studies these contours um and then use those for for this type of regulation so thank you thank you for your time and

your sure indulgence can i ask you a question okay so i've flippant flown into the st p clearwater airport um i legion airlines got a full-size plane and it's probably as big a plane goes into zapper hills or anywhere else the results of the noise abatement study coming up do you expect them to mirror the same requirements coming the best person to ask is doug saunders because this is his area of expertise so i would just be parroting what i've learned from him so please ask him and he'll be much more enlightening than me but that's some of the basics okay so we have some people signed up and maybe there's more people that want to speak but we'll start with our list okay the first three signed up i have paul prince followed by c michael coover and followed by rick warner mr prince please state your name and address for the record then begin hello my name is paul prince my address is 11649 pilot country drive spring hill florida three four six one zero i'm here to speak in support of your moratorium and the zoning protection around airports um i don't think that you should approach this so much from a noise abatement as you should a safety issue when we take off from pilot country on runway 36 due north we have what we call a left-hand pattern there which means you turn to the west as you come out of the has come out from your take off now if you lose power at five or six hundred feet out there and you're over 41 you might not make it back to the airport you're going to go down on 41 or in talavera or in that new development that you just approved to the west of us and that's that's the safety aspect of it as far as noise goes my son bought a house in talavera we opposed that development four or five years ago whenever it was going through and they promised us that they would give letters to the people that were buying the homes in there my son never got a letter he knew pilot country was there but i'm here to tell you the people that are buying in there probably don't know there's an airport there and they're buying houses so fast that they're not they're not even in there looking my son sold his house since he bought and he had three offers before the sign went in the yard people didn't even come look at the house they're doing it online nobody's nobody is warning them that there's an airport or the safety issue

involved and i think although we do get complaints about the noise from the talavera residents i think you should look at it more from a safety standpoint of residentials and maybe an airplane going down god forbid in one of those subdivisions uh would be much better off with maybe a commercial building there with a stronger roof thank you for your time mr hoover michael hoover my name is michael hoover i also live in pilot country 11219 pilot country drive spring hill florida 3-4-6-1-0 uh with all due respect to ms wilhelm she's probably very good at three-card modding she's managed to obfuscate the issue by pointing at a runway noise contour and stating to you that that is what is necessary and applicable she doesn't mention what's called the pattern of a general aviation airport when an aircraft takes off a commercial aircraft takes off from saint petersburg clearwater they're generally not generally they are by faa mandate on what's called an instrument flight departure and they exit the area straight ahead climbing to altitude as quickly as they can their noise signature does not impinge on areas to the sides of the runway and as she showed in her faa state's noise contours dpnl noise contours that they are very close to the runway and to the runway protection zone what you're required to do under 333-03 is to adopt airport regulations and under 333 dash that any zoning shall consider the safety of persons on the ground and in the air when general aviation aircraft which includes charter airlines or charter aircraft medevac police helicopters etc when they depart they as paul prince stated make a departure to the left or the right depending on that particular airport and in pilot country it's to use what's called a left hand pattern and they then make a left turn and then again a left turn so they're over the areas that are close to one half the runway distance from the runway itself if we depart to the south same thing we would impact areas to the east of pilot country so the noise impact is indeed an issue but it's not just the runway

further the safety which paul brought up is an issue if an aircraft loses an engine it's not going to be straight ahead it's going to be after its turn and impact areas that may end up with residential if this moratorium is not approved thank you for your time all right um rick warner followed by mark budd followed by john voda thank you uh ladies and gentlemen the lord madam chair uh we were here last night if you remember over on newport richie and uh i'm a pilot my name is rick warner i live at the 11710 pilot country drive i'm also a former air traffic controller and as i informed the board last time you're creating what's called the kill zone the hardest thing for a pilot to do is going from transitioning from a ground aircraft on a runway to transitioning to an aircraft to actually flying vehicle not only we've asked you would please not approve the proposal on the campbell property because you're putting life threatening situations with a high density we're not in favor we're not against development such as rv storage or use storage things of that nature i would personally like to invite every one of the board members to come out and watch some of the aviation activity that's out there paul prince who got up here ahead of time as a student pilot and frankly he'll scare the hell out of you if you saw him take off lane so i would recommend that you come out and actually see some of the operations and uh and and i think it'd give you a different perspective to see what is going on he was 100 correct as uh standard pattern is to the left of the takeoff pattern we're talking about put you right over the top of this proposed uh townhouses not to mention you were mentioning before about uh them flying over the top of your house nowadays you got kids with drones can you imagine a 12 year old out there on the end of the runway playing with a drone or shining a laser light in somebody's eyes so we asked respectfully that you do implement the moratorium and that you actually do not approve that campbell property development as it is thank you mark budd thank you okay my name is uh mark budd i live at uh pilot country estates as well 11748 driver lane spring hill can you speak into the microphone so we can hear you yeah it's mark bud i live at pilot country as well and it's uh 11 748 driver lane spring hill 3 4 6 1 0. that airport is clearwater exact by the way i was there many years as well okay yeah pascal county has been in violation of that florida statute 333 for years and continues to delay compliance to allow incompatible land use to the detriment of the airport and surrounding community development

impacting the safety and well-being of the citizens and the airport operations compliance was supposed to be done in july of 2017. it seems that other special interests have influenced the county affecting these continued delays to pursue their own interests contrary to the florida statute which promotes protection of the county airport assets and the surrounding communities it's important to to say it's not on the airport that you're protecting you're protecting the people that are going to be in these new developments as well their well-being their safety so i believe the moratorium on new development should be in place until the county meets its obligations with respect to the statutes 330 and 333 recent proposed residential developments in close proximity to the airport would be considered incompatible land use by both the faa dot f-dot and faa guidelines with respect to zoning around the airports and which i believe you're probably already aware of that i myself fly uh a number of different aircraft my son is wildfly we both fly competition aerobatics those airplanes are very loud and i guarantee you when we take off it's not just the 60 db it's more like 100 510 db and when we do a pattern like the previous speakers were talking about anytime we fly over the those houses it's about 100 db and this noise study i believe is supposed to have an average db over time over 24 hours and that average i believe is supposed to be a logarithm logarithmic average and even though sometimes these noise studies when they're done they may be done during a period of less activity especially for us my son and myself and when we practice aerobatics which is probably a little bit more extreme and you're talking about safety well it's safety but we're we're out over the well fields but it's in in and out of the airport that we that we fly that's a problem for everybody else and every time we take off we're always thinking about okay if we had an engine failure we had a problem where are we going to go and with the recent developments down to the southwest and northwest that are being proposed they're right next to the end of the runway on the sides they're about probably a couple hundred feet off the side but they really don't leave you much room to uh to go anywhere in case of an emergency okay so i think that was the end of your time okay but thank you all right who do we have that's coming

up john is that john yes yes [Laughter] yes my name is john vota i'm with the hidden lake uh 8641 skymaster drive and i have been sworn in the issue here with the airport is that we were supposed to have a commission that gets together but that never happens the um the noise issues that was all brought up i welcome all of you all of you i couldn't even pilot to come to our young eagle flight saturday morning and if you don't think some noise is going to be generated over those new construction buildings you're kidding yourself i mean the noise cone is a it's ridiculous the uh runway protection when you build four-story buildings right in the downwind path of your runway it's ridiculous you guys ought to put the moratorium back especially on the tanglewood the hidden lake is also planning on extending their runway if we can get the land available to the north that will increase that dome that supposedly is out there it's not big enough we got a mile long runway right now and that dome is inside hidden lake and it's just touching those new apartment buildings so that that dome is a joke and you should put the moratorium back on these apartment complexes uh what else we got population density come on folks putting 300 people in a in a building along with these people with the neighborhood right next to a runway forget it you're asking for trouble clear water did make them shut down their airport because of all the complaints and you're looking for more complaints with this one and hidden lake thank you and no one else has signed up are there other people who'd like to speak please uh line up is there anyone else after this gentleman please line up thank you good afternoon commission jeremy couch 17937 hunting bow circle loots 33558 i represent the developer of the ridge road and tanglewood apartment complex in general moratoriums are very serious things because of the potential effects it can have on others when i read the exemption and the ordinance that's proposed

i do have concern with the language it says that um does not depict buildings within the noise abatement area we have a gazebo that we promised in our park and that is a building so i'd like to add the language habitable buildings if possible does not depict habitable buildings within the noise abatement area also our consultant is going to speak you know when you look at the area of the moratorium it should be much closer to the airport than it is right now in general it affects the college significantly and i don't know how long this will take but i just would like to not see those kind of unintended consequences thank you thank you next is there anyone else after this gentleman are you doing doug saunders uh cns companies 11 18 00 day drive winter springs florida a couple things too regarding the runway protection zones that's really the ideal when they're talking about the safety factor i'm in aviation businesses i'm all i care about is safety and that's really why the roaming protection zones are there so they're the trapezoid on the runway and also regarding uh the flight path they are correct about the ifr vfr so this airport follow does follow vfr criteria which is really by pilot's choice for the area when they're doing the left-hand turn their final base will not be over this property because it's exactly to the west of the end of the runway so when they're landing or taking off they will not be over this property they'll be within the transitional service for the faa so it should not be a concern regarding the noise there is no microphones in the field for this type of study who pasco county hired was hmh very legit firm they followed a system called faa aedt it's a system that really it's by calculation the type of aircraft there really is no study in the field so it's really um doesn't matter what flies in or out that day it's really based on calculation for a a yearly yearly average what you see up here too is uh so this is orlando international airport and that's just the line you see up there is within a half mile if i would say half the runway length um for an airport like this it'd be three times bigger than that that shape outside of that so there's already homes and apartments and hotels within a large airport like orlando nationals here's tamp international same thing this line is the runways were um i guess in orlando national has 366 000 operations a year tampa has about 150 170 000 operations a year a little more than 10 000 um that

currently these other airports in the area have so also you can see here at tampa international residential homes apartments within a half mile again it'd be two to three times larger than that if you followed your noise abatement rule and here's st pete clearwater same thing there's homes divisions within within those areas um yeah i really want to say really garden safety i mean also these properties both both properties have submitted to the faa 7460 notice of construction both of them have received the termination of no hazard to air navigation the faas review these there's no there's no challenges with the faa criteria that's what fdot follows so really there's no uh there's no challenges with the fdot it's been approved for these type of facilities the height is fine um you're in the transitional side surface so there is no no challenges with these airports with that thank you very much did you did your question get answered well enough that you don't need to ask him okay thank you again jennifer motzinger representing the tampa bay builders association the only thing i wanted to point out is the word moratorium that gives me a lot of concern just because of the nature of it uh it sounds to me like this is something that's been going on since 2016 and you have studies that are coming forward and you're going to be able to make some good policy decisions however you don't have to pull the trigger on a moratorium and we all know what happens because i've talked to you about it before it affects banks it affects lending it affects lots of things and believe me i get calls all the time about moratoriums so just that word alone is typically reserved for an emergency situation and that's clearly not what is going on here so i appreciate all of the different perspectives and i do appreciate your consideration thank you thank you so anyone else is anyone online no one's on webex okay um back to us then um questions board members do we have any more questions so um you know i i want to say i think i've told the pilots here i have pilots in my family um my ex-husband actually was a pilot i didn't mention that last time he used to um for fun not in london it was a baseball player but he used to pick up my kids at the airport in odessa it's no longer there and on his way to fsu football games and he touched down they get in the plane

and out they'd go and then i have a brother-in-law and a son-in-law both graduates air force academy that are pilots one one was a commander a squadron commander of refuellers and my son-in-law who's now deployed in germany is the commander of air fueling refueling squadrons so i have pilots in the family and i um and i love the idea that you guys can have live and support what maybe for most you are a wonderful hobby or sport maybe some of you commute by airplane to work i have had friends who've done that in the past but i think you need to be really careful when you start imposing restrictions on property owners that are not um you know that are near you near you that in my mind that starts to become a taking and so while i get where we need to have some safety concerns and make sure that you can land that you guys can land and take off properly for me that's about where your property rights stop and others start kicking in so we have to be very careful we we go through lawsuits all the time we have one going on right now so i am curious terry can you tell us what came in as far as the noise abatement study or points or or whatever that was and um and what your thoughts are coming from the planning department to fix you know obviously we need to do something we were supposed to do something a while ago does it amount to a moratorium i don't know good afternoon madam chair um well what we received from hmmh was the it's a technical memorandum regarding the noise model inputs this this information is what's going to be used to ultimately generate the contours it's basically following the flight paths what's actually happening around the airports what's taking off what's coming down the types of airplanes single engine versus double engine the rates of how many times they're landing in one direction versus another all that information are the model inputs once those are verified and confirmed which i believe they've been shared with the airports as already once those are confirmed they'll be able to take those inputs enter them into the models that mr saunders referred to and then generate the contour lines based on those movements that are being and that's all from i believe it's all from i'm not exactly familiar with all the

terminology i think it's called flight aware that's data that the aircraft are transmitting as they're coming and going to these airports all right so um do you guys have any questions for terence yeah thank you madam chair i want you guys to take one more stab at this here's what i here's my suggestion and obviously let the board weigh in on it is i know there's made some attempts to get everybody together but just doesn't seem to be happening different schedules i understand make it difficult at times but i would love to see complaining i'd love to see the county attorney's office i'd love to see members from the airport committee or board i forgot what we call it now but uh i'll say the committee or board commission commission the commission and then we had some people other stakeholders that were involved as well back there why don't you guys really work hard to get your schedules together and have everybody in the same room see if we can come in some happy media and i say that because you heard some of the issues that i have you heard some of the concerns other commissioners have as well there may be a way to work this obviously you know safety first that's what we're talking about that's what i'd like to see if if it doesn't happen it's going to be up to us right that's what it comes down to but i'd love to see you guys try to get everybody in that room one more time when i meet everybody everybody county attorneys planning again commission and then the stakeholders that uh president earlier so the commission is a sunshine law body you can't okay about the chair of the commission or their the board destiny to send this back to the commission they can hold the hearing but they already have right and they've approved what's in front of you so what would i get from my understanding from my understanding is that there were some meetings that were trying to get everybody together recently and not everybody was able to all be in the room together am i am i incorrect am i this yeah i'm hearing yes or no here there there have been meetings that have been held apartment i can't hear you there have been meetings can we turn the mic up a little bit because it's been really loaded i think mine's working on and out there it's kind of been low in the back thanks there have been meetings uh

numerous different meetings right um many uh some have had all the players at the table um many have not had all the players well they need to all be at the time madam turn yeah we're still going so why don't we get everybody in there together again not to violate sunshine like mr steinsnider mentioned can't come to a good conclusion comes back to us and and we'll we'll make that decision because the next public hearing is scheduled already because right now how it sits now and how it looks i would my my suggestion would be just to be honest with you no moratorium work on it but i'm given the opportunity for everybody to get back together again this is just one commissioner talking see if we can come to a happy meeting here again look out for safety safety being first without um jeopardizing property owners that have already been given permission to do something again there's things i voted against that we're talking about i actually voted against it but at the same time i lost the vote this the rest of the commission voted for it we voted right and you can't not all but you can't but you can't but at the same time that's what that was the end result and now we can't go back in my opinion and take something rights away from somebody that was offered by this commission yeah okay and commissioner fitzpatrick i mean that's something you voted for yourself too and the apartment complex they're talking about you were the one the biggest advocate for that apartment complex to be built so i guess i'm trying to figure out what you're doing in that area because i'm kind of confused well commissioner fitzpatrick thank you due to the safety and the fact that the apc was supposed to be implemented in 2017 also due to the fact when there was a conflict arising my resolution to that conflict to protect the airports was to move forward with the apc at this point i would like to see the moratorium the motion to approve with the moratorium okay so this is the this is the first public hearing so you would if you want to move forward with what's on the table now you would end the you conclude the first public hearing and you would continue the final public hearing to may 17th 2022 or at 1 30 or soon thereafter i would like to conclude the first public hearing and move to continue the final public

hearing to may 17th with that being said i would also like to move forward with adding habital buildings on page four paragraph four and may to shall on page three section five a which would implement when the noise study comes in it would be implemented and updated from the original area and then we can focus and finalize the moratorium for on may 17th so we can focus on the apz as soon as we finalize the apc the moratorium will be over and the quickest way to finalize the apz is to get the noise steady and to move forward thank you i'll second the motion it's going to just go too much anyway because this is we're moving to the final hearing on may 17th there's nothing no you don't need a motion so so so the first and second public hearings caught up to one another because the board had continued this so you've got both hearings advertised for today so you you need to continue the final public hearing which can't occur because you had to have the first hearings to the 17th to take final action or to some other day so is the motion just to continue to the next hearing no she's well she's moving the mortal first reading of the moratorium that was her motion right it's concluding it's concluding today's hearing on the moratorium and then continuing the second hearing which happened to coincide because of the way things had gotten continued to the may 17th 2020. what you what what i think the commissioner is trying to do is saying that she wants to the public comment that that occurred when in several of those sections she once incorporated into this into the ordinance when it comes back on the 17th um the the issue on habitable capital buildings page four paragraph four and then may to shall be magnified on page three section five a so it not might but it will be implemented when the noise study comes in i'm sure yes so what that'll do is what you want it to do it gives it the stakeholders a chance two weeks to get together before the next meeting i'm sure yep do we have do i i just need some type of agreement though that that's going to happen so maybe we want to make the second reading a little further out no no i would um i need this i need people to come to an agreement do i have i mean somehow i have a county

attorney's agreement do i have planning's agreement do i have somebody from the commission's agreement do i have um whoever's in charge of the stakeholders which is they're you and i think barbara you know i think okay i mean do i have do i see heads nodding or can i have everybody raise their hand that's an agreement county attorney's office is that okay okay okay terry yes so i got a thumbs up from everybody i hope we could do it that way could we also meet at the airport commission meeting so then there's no sunshine violations the next airport zoning commission meeting is not scheduled until june 20th that's part of the hesitancy um now to have their chairperson come yes that would be great um so i would have to check with him he's not present today madam chair if the chair can't come can we have a destiny yes of course okay okay thank you and just to reiterate there is a representative from hidden lake airport that is on the airport commission yes there is thank you i thought so and then the goal would be to finalize and move forward with the moratorium just so we can move forward and put all of our focus onto the apz correct thank you then one final question for some direction when i spoke about limiting the moratorium area the use is in the moratory area just to the residential and educational facilities i did not get any feedback on that matter well yeah we you're okay we don't want continuing with god but i have a question for you how long is it going to take for you to make the ordinance i mean well now that the sun studies back soon the planning department terry how long will it take to for you to craft this ordinance because i i'm not 100 sure i'm in favor of moratorium i said of course i just think these are quick fixes that you'd like me to go ahead well i i actually have a draft started that was set aside but he just said it's the planning department's role to do the the more to the ordinance okay so we have it we have a draft but it's but that the technical um language that what what the regulations will be is a planning department function that was the comment i made okay so how long for you guys so you guys need to take the lead then until you then tell the attorneys what we want written right if it's a plan planning document so what what does that look like well i mean if the if the second hearing is may 17

it's going to happen the next yeah the goal uh the goal has been to complete the regulations this summer so july was the initial target to finish the the actual regulations um i would have to you know to i don't know conservative estimate a little bit here the comprehensive plan gives us to the end of 2022 so we're going to finish at this calendar year yeah um so i would maybe push it out to september to cover the the ground that may have been the summer the third thing is more to the process than with the typical an ordinance adoption because it does have to go to the airport zoning commission for a public hearing there and then the plan and then planning commission then you off twice okay well um so we have a motion thank you madam chair yes elizabeth you had said can this be drafted and brought to the airport zoning the airport commission to be reviewed so it can come back to be finalizing the apz okay the moratorium or the ordinance the ordinance oh yes that has to go to them for a public hearing not the moratorium ordinance it's already been there but they have to actually have a public hearing and do a report to this board about their recommendation for the final airport zoning regulations to be adopted and do you think we can bring the apc to the airport commission by the meeting in june and then bring it back to the board in july for the apc finalization quite sure who the working group is for that effort i think there's dialogue that has to be had here most definitely because there's partial drafts and then there's different ideas as to what should be in the final product from what i'm understanding so i'm i can't promise any time frame on that i'm not in charge of that or control of it okay but now that we have the sound study is there anything additional documentation that we're waiting on to finalize the apz so it should be done within the next 90 days i don't think there's additional stuff that we're waiting on from our airports or the study or the consultant no okay thank you okay all right so we have a motion and a second um to move on to the final reading in two weeks with the understanding that there'll be a meeting in between yeah mountain chair yeah that means not held i'm going to ask for me to continue it again i agree so you need to it's not yeah i'm waiting correctly oakley get back okay so all in favor uh i opposed hi all right opposed who said i i said i i for opposed no i i'm for

passive okay for moving forward okay so we'll move forward conditionally okay um we're gonna pull up um oh yeah um could i please get a motion to receive this in motion to receive and file a second all in favor aye opposed all right um we are going to move up to the cpv whatever number that is madam chairman would you like me to review the procedure yes there are two resounding agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners and staff or planning commission has has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff are planning a commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in florida is that near public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for the board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code adam clerk would you like to swear people in absolutely and you're here to speak on the remaining matters if you could please stand and raise your right hands okay do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you god thank you okay so p58 is a continuance me just read it real quick yeah let's just get out of the way let me do the pub real quick okay okay um it was p58 was published in tampa times on march 2nd 2022. p58 is pdd220053 it's for a compliment amendment for gateway hub and the request is to continue the item to the june 21st 2022 florida county commissioners meeting at 130 in dave city i'm sorry that should be new port richie okay all in favor aye opposed is there anyone here in opposition of p60 is there anyone online in opposition to p60 there's no one um online and no one else

um item p60 was published on tampa times on april 10th 2022 and april 17th 2022. and just for the record just to read it fac 220140 it's petitioned to vacate vacation of the platted right-of-way orangedale avenue um date city maria carrasco and there's no funding required we're asking you to approve this item no one here to speak oh there are some uh are you are you here to speak in opposition no no okay don't hang on okay thank you you guys want a full presentation on that one so move second all in favor aye aye all right done okay okay um now this is uh p59 is a consent but i had um heard that some of you may want to speak on it but if you don't then i'll leave it on consent but i thought you know a couple questions i'll leave it on all right so we will not leave it okay um did you want a full presentation yeah i just want to ask the questions i can just i can ask two questions sure let me know let me read it if it's okay and we'll get the advertising and thank you commissioner all right item p59 was published in tampa times on april 6 2022. so p59spdd227542 is for swope mpud master plan unit development running running dog ranch s inc s morris kit hyphen dale inc and swap 5535 419 it's for rezoning from an ac ar districts to mpud master plan unit development to allow a maximum of 953 single-family detached units 119 single-family attached 336 multi-family units and 116 882 000 square feet support commercial uses on 493 acres approximately comes through with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet maybe you have some questions okay um commissioner mariano had some questions yes first of all the traffic study um and brad you and i talked about this before um was the traffic study done at the appropriate times meeting peak hours uh brad tip and planning and development i'm going to have our our team come up uh essen i believe can speak to this very specifically about that okay and for the board while they're coming up the reason i i question the study is as i look at all the traffic that runs coming from the east side to the west side uh if you're at 4 30 traffic 5 30. it's happening several times it takes me over 20 minutes to get to the intersection at 41. and i just want to make sure that you guys have accounted for the proper timing with your study commissioner uh mariano board my name is essen khalil with current planning

uh yes commissioner mariano when we do these types of traffic analysis we are looking they're based on pm peak hour or the peak hour actually could be mp in both so the studies are done in two parts one is looking at the roadway capacity whether the roadway whether it be a two lane four lane whether it can handle this added development traffic you know through the build-out year of this development and the second phase of the study is looking at their specific access meaning how many cuts they're going to have on a particular highway what improvements are they going to be triggering which may include turn lanes which may include signalization of the intersections so and so forth when we reviewed this specific project we did look at the segment of highway 52 and the intersections that are included in it specifically u.s 41 we did not go that far out to look at that segment and i think the reason for that was because one the impacts of the traffic we did not believe are going gonna go out that far and plus that segment of 52 is under construction right now for improvements uh and it is scheduled to be completed if i'm not mistaken by year 2023. so that will drastically improve the level of service at that intersection and the delay that you're experiencing in the morning heading east pm heading west and the same happens on us-41 the northbound delay that you experience in the peak hours this segment that's along this project along 50 the 52 segment east of us 41 going to bellamy there are no signalized intersections and for our guidelines is considered to be a free-flowing segment uninterrupted flow so when you look at these studies and you review these traffic studies we're looking at a much higher capacity because it is free flowing in in that segment when we reviewed this specific traffic study through their build out here that segment of 52 does not show failure the intersection that you're talking about may show specific spots may show certain failures for certain movements in the case of us-41 it is going to be improved is under construction there was a delay because there was a contractor that you know one on one right so now it is under underway and it's going to be done so does that answer your question that's that's good thank you um so again that was a concern of mine i want to have it addressed certainly we know but i get the verification we did talk about it

yesterday um and one of the point i want to bring out in the future if somebody has industrial land desires in the in this cpev i don't want them to go to a public hearing up to a swap i want them to just get it real easy to get themselves industrial and to bring in more jobs so it's not upsetting this particular one but i thought it was appropriate for the conversation especially what we saw today yeah i'm sure just yeah just to jump on that bandwagon again like we mentioned earlier i mean it had ex export to communication with the with the applicant expert communication with the um neighboring parcel as well and that's even the neighborhood process for so we were having that conversation is like hey you know in the future like you stated and that's why we brought it up earlier today and make sure everybody's on board you guys are all on board right um is that we don't have to go through that process because we want industrial we want to continue to industry new industrial them having in my opinion again this was done by a long time ago for you were here and you were here and most of us were here for them having to go through this swap thing i mean the time and energy it takes to do it when we want more industrial it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense yeah it's a lot of work for people so you know if the neighbors and i see some neighbors sitting out the audience if they want to be able to put industrial they should be able to do that do it tomorrow if they want to you know so we stepped take that so madam chair i'm comfortable with it so no i have questions sorry sorry joel but i have some questions for you um looking at the outline of the property i see you've grabbed um an interesting part of the trail so i just want to understand what's going on down there yeah we joel to joel 2 to an associates for the applicant and the property owner uh i don't know what you mean by grab the trailer well we own see that red little tail how it i mean so that's right that is the orange thought trail right yeah yeah what's going on there i got it um a good while ago the property owner part of the acquisition of this parcel had that that piece with it as part of the property ownership and we recognize that and we are including that in the mpd plan we we are accommodating that and planning for that future trail system and we of course will tie our project into that and we're happy to have that future trail system be there on that southern peace so the good news actually is that this mpd owner owns that much of it so ours is being committed in this mpud infudi

zoning okay so uh and it'll be more than i mean i i hope you're really planning to amenitize that portion of the trail through i figured you would be building that trail up to uh hernando and citrus county we have the land we're setting aside the land and obviously we will we will do whatever we're required to do in that section of the trail you just need to make sure as all these others come in that you get the rest of that piece along that southern boundary yeah because you've got all these divided ownerships the good news is mr slope has a large chunk of it for you so you're you're getting your first piece all right and also i noticed in your conditions that you are asking for reduction in the park for the multiplayer it it we unfortunately have to ask for it as a variation but what we're asking for is exactly what this board has approved on the last eight or ten projects that we've brought through we're getting exactly the same thing which is it's what is supported by parks and natural resources we're complying exactly with their current requirement frankly they just haven't had time to get around updating your code to make that the norm for multi-family projects but they're they're proving that condition and everyone we just approved it at newport corners and two rivers and everywhere else um and um lastly and this is kind of for terry too i guess last night some of the planning staff and i attended the talk about town that frank starkey had with the executive director of the congress for new urbanism and we got into a discussion about parking and over parking and it seems to me we still are over parking our apartments and it's just a shame i saw i saw i think two point two percent your standard right now is 2.2 or 2.25 but but what what staff has been doing consistently and what they have agreed to here is 1.9 we still we still think that's too high but that's what they will give us so that's what we've been taking on all these is 1.9 so i'm wondering if some of that um when when uh this layout is done if some of that could be done in a format for maybe some trailhead parking for the trail and as overflow for the apartments maybe we can get some parking for the trail there because i think it's over parked for apartments i know frank was saying he has 45 units in this building in downtown newport richie and he has 45 cars so you know we're at 2.2 for per apartment so um i really think we need to reduce that it's over parked i agree uh commissioner brad tippin again um we are looking at parking in the very near future we're working through the

landscape uh code changes first parking is gonna be one of the next pieces on that agenda so we will we will address that in more detail we have heard that some uh parking for certain apartment complex they've been able to show studies saying that they're at one six yeah uh you know in some cases lower but it's kind of the area when you're in a suburban area it's a little bit different the walkability you still need to have cars there's you know even if you can walk somewhere you need a place to park your car for when you can't walk somewhere uh so it's a little bit of a mixed bag so we look at each case individually and independently and right now 1.9 is is where we feel comfortable for the time being but we will certainly look at that again with the parking uh that comes in with code as to the little piece of trail uh that you're talking about we have talked about that extensively with tina russo and npo and the trail system and the parks group as well related to the comets that joel made uh on the uh ten percent using the ten percent of the the acreage at the uh multi-family spot for that uh that is something that we do consistently um so to you know incorporate what we can into a a park system or a trail system we'll do if there's some parking that we can accommodate for a pseudo trailhead type of scenario we can certainly look at that as well time of sight plan we can see what space is there and how it works uh i did speak with tina with mpo and she said that she was comfortable uh with this uh the way it was because uh the southern edge there is all swift blood property that's not going to be developed and swift mud is generally okay with trail systems that kind of uh meander into their property so we think that we'll have an ability to be able to make some stuff work but we can't really get into that until site plans so uh i believe the application is that they're they're willing to discuss that at site plan and we can look into all those details making sure they have connections to the trail where they're reasonable and whatnot okay well that'll help their project sell very quickly we'd approve it consider jen second all in favor aye okay thanks okay that's it no well we have permission wait a minute you got too much [Laughter] oakley yes ma'am um the main thing i'd like to bring up today is the fact that uh we all know and i've get caused i'm sure y'all get the same kind of cause of how things get slowed down in the system and and it takes a little longer in some areas and all but

on behalf of all our staff and dan and his group all all the things that i see they're working on very hard they're just overloaded with work and i want to thank all the staff and all your echoes to what they do and i appreciate everything they do and i know all of us do so i know you're pushed to the limits to get things moving and quicker and some things slowed up at times but when the day's over they're doing a good job and they are working as hard as they can well thank you that's all i had all right commissioner moore thank you ma'am chair just two quick items last week i had the uh honor of participating in a pre-press conference with the tampa warriors hockey program at advent's health center ice from june 10th to 11th it will have a 22-hour marathon of games and events to raise awareness for the fact that 22 veterans a day die by suicide obviously that's one is too many as we all know um so we should all do what we can to support our veterans continue to serve our veterans that serve this great nation of ours and the opening ceremonies for this is at 6 30 p.m on june 10th at advent health center ice in wesley chapel so for the public come on out during the day on june 11th i know they're going to have teams coming from across the state across the country in addition to um here's a neat puck for their uh for their event in addition to veterans there's also a lot of first responders who participate fire rescue people are fire rescue as well as police and sheriff's deputies from across the nation too so many being veterans so let's continue to support this this event and many others like it secondly again we mentioned earlier i'm not going to get into it you know thanks to fdot for getting the diverging diamond open there's there's more lanes to come we need more lanes but at least they're making that conversion now when it's all open it's going to be definitely smooth sailing if you've driven the one in sarasota or other classes other places across the nation you realize how much of a positive impact it has on those interchanges and so we can't wait for that but again thanks to fdot but i also want to you know thank our legislators because back i remember when i came out in 2014 they were talking about doing this and starting construction in what 2024. so you know i remember spending hours and i worked very closely as you know as well as your support with your support as well with our legislators to get this thing moved up and get some money through appropriations and thankfully for um speaker corker and ernest heim and started with um speaker weatherford to help get this thing moved up if not uh we'd be looking at probably 2028 so that's it thank you

commissioner fitzpatrick and i'm not sure which photos are going to come up first but one thing other item that i've been working on is working with the school's public schools so we can have a joint agreement for the playgrounds to be opened after schools and on weekends i would like to see that i know i have family in out of state and every weekend you would see all of the families utilizing the parks and the track and the fields and tennis courts and it's really nice to see the families come together i would like to next is i would like to congratulate the 32 new firefighters on their promotions or the 30 to welcome the 32 new firefighters and congratulate the 32 new firefighters on their promotions um speaking of the fire department we have the new station number nine at 52 and suncoast is expecting to be open by august and i will be following very closely their time frame seven station 17 is a rebuild on in seven springs and they're looking to open in november we have three additional ambulances that should be coming into service in october we will be expecting to have ambulance 223 place and service as well and what i would really like to highlight is station 30 we have the new ambulance 230 that has been into service as of yesterday it was expected to be there tomorrow but it will be there today and yesterday is that it nope okay next we have the commissioner baby the commissioner baby shower and we're looking for anyone to donate diapers of all sizes diaper cream baby formulas bottles pacifiers wipes and clothing the benef this these will be these items will be donated to sunrise of tampa bay sunrise of pasco county for the domestic violence shelter and last year with suncoast voices this year will be the sunrise and we will be collecting items may 9th through to june 17th and then we will let you know when the day to come out if you like to bring any additional items the day of next and lastly i would like to mention bring your child to work day i would like to thank every pasco county staff member that brought their child and that helped put this event together and do you have the photo should be a photo so it was really nice to see all the kids and the families come together the kids asked a million questions and when you thought the questions were going to be over they came up with even more questions they got to participate and sit up on the dyess and practice their budgets and go from emergency management over to finance department so that was really nice to see everyone come together and put on a

great day for the children and lastly stations 2 3 and 4 are expected to be in fiscal year 23 in fiscal year 22 to 23 and i would also like to dive into the budget because i'm and i'm going to be looking very closely into the budget for fire rescue we have approved a percentage increase for sanitary waste and garbage service and i would like to look at a flat rate increase or an additional funding for the fire rescue so we can ensure and improve the times for the fight for arrival for the safeties of all citizens and we also have to consider the mental health and the well-being of all of our first responders so i will be looking into that and see if we can do a flat rate across the board thank you mr mariana thank you madam chair uh daniel those pictures while those pictures are coming up there was a fire i guess last weekend over in leisure beach that fire got very close to the homes are there puts the people in homes in danger as well as a firefighter is in danger we've tried to do different things as far as dealing with homeless folks that are living on property illegally you know yearly renewals of the um trespassing owners is certainly hampered these are some pictures of uh one of the residents from the leisure beach center sent me to this last night uh they just had a board meeting us saying we talked about it next week about what to do about this situation um it's just not it's not good for pasco county yeah and then the approach we've been taking has been one but i'm going to suggest after talking to a county attorney and talking about other things that we could do for a different approach and maybe it is going directly to the owner of the land who maintains any situation contrary to the code may be responsible for this violation some examples that could be done as far as persons camping on undeveloped parcels commit a multitude of code violations uh number one zoning violation it's not a permitted use to camp on any property other than once zoned for a campground if commercial zoning no personal laundry design in the parcel except in narrow circumstances that's one possibility littering placing debris on property without consent of the owner unlawful acts it is unlawful to leave any solid waste in any location within the solid waste recovery system this would include trash as well as human waste use of public service required no person

shall dispose of human excrement in a toilet accumulation degree trash or junk visible from right away in a budding parcels open burning permitted all of these violations i just mentioned are violations of code compliance has issued citations for illegal campers and onto the property owners in the past and that the attorney's office has prosecuted successfully i'm going to say i was happy to see we have a new code compliance director but i will tell you all the problems i have in my district up and down especially 19 the homeless system is a major one and i want to give thanks to the board thanks to code compliance in the sheriff's office for working very hard on the right-of-way ordinance for safety because the number of panhandle is diminished dramatically working together but we're still not done solving the issue and people are very disturbed especially like i said leisure beach and this could happen anywhere around any other property so um i want to see that our team working with patrick aron now that sally we can get a team up to go stop looking at these processors captains commissioner stark you've had great success clear around a couple of years as well they've cleaned out some of mine as well but this is an ongoing thing that we need to deal with unemployment is at zero percent as far as every economist will tell you people can have jobs we still go to places everybody's looking for workers there's opportunities that are out there i want to try to help them um in saying that too i want to take a look at what we're going to do for mental health substance abuse to try to help those that are trying to get help they just don't know how to get help but it's something that i want to see code stepping up using this approach if need be to go forward so we used that we used that um kind of uh we sighted the owner behind the walgreens or cvs whatever it was at bridge in 19 for operating at campground what was frustrating was he had a no trust passing sign and he had already cleaned it up once or twice but um you know there was no action on no trespassing and and and so the only thing left for our staff for us was to use code and say they weren't he was operating at campground um the owner did clean it up and he grew up he had to clean it up twice because even while he cleaned up most of it they came and dumped more and on a little section he hadn't cleaned up so he came back in and cleaned it up again let me say that fgoa

had a well there and they had to shut the well for contamination of uh feces well that's nice yeah so god knows what what the what's going on there before they caught it then this is just a little teeny tiny strip and they said it was full of hypodermic needles full of hypodermic needs so um yeah i i hey anything we can do to keep stopping that from happening i meant so okay anything else um i want to say um you know coming up with taking over the trail is going to be a major thing that we all need to be focused on i think and again if you want to give reports maybe every other meeting or you're going to touch that anyway but uh coming up in orlando like there's a couple of counties up there that actually took over their jails if anybody's going to fac might be a good opportunity to go take a look at it or just take a trip i also want to go take a look down at charlotte county they have built i guess their own hospital next to the jail started a couple years ago but i think i want to delve deeper into what they're doing to take those people that keep on going into jail for recurring things that are all mental health drug related that maybe what they're doing is something we need to incorporate in the future coming up so that we can maximize our jail expansion and and use i think the the opioid funds that are coming our way if we need to go expand and put that into it let's go use that treatment as the sheriff said 85 percent of the drug overdoses or drug-related folks are going to through the jail and we're going to bypass that into a much better shape cheaper kind of facility much better to go yeah good idea okay that's all i have thank you administrator yes ma'am i'll start with one that i thought commissioner moore was going to mention the the renfest that just closed up we had over 80 000 visitors for with the coochie park as part of the rimfest so that's uh second year it's been here and it's grown pretty substantially each year so right in your backyard mr oakley that's good um the other thing is like commissioner mariano we have the ada accessible beach mats out at sunwest now we have two of them one on the north and one on the south end so excellent so now we have ada access at that beach so uh the detention center so i'm gonna start off with um you know one thing each of y'all mentioned in the meetings was making sure we take care of the people the the current employees that are out there and make sure we take care of them so as part of that this week is actually national corrections officer and employee appreciation week

so so that's one of the places joanna slipped out to go see them and when their shift changes and i'm going to try to make the shift change later this week so we'll actually be highlighting some of them on social media even though they're not our employees yet but you know one of the things about taking care of people is make sure you recognize them for the work they're doing and stuff like that so that's part of it uh we've uh you know we've got some project managers team working on the the scope of this and putting things together we've drafted several documents we're about to bring in uh county attorney's team on some of those because they're ordinances or resolutions or interlocal agreements that we're going to have to have so we're working through that you know we've had meetings in the jail with the teams on our side their side finance meeting on the 18th it meeting on the 19th hr on the 24th hr has actually been in there several times to talk to them about the different things here we do at the county and so a lot of stuff happening we'll try to work through make sure you get update each the first meeting of each month not it's too much going on to try to do it every two weeks but the first meeting of each month what's going on i will say we are working through the budgeting process not just for this but you know the three budgets that were due over the on the first uh soe clerks and sheriff's budget we all got so we're working that into the process um i think we start our one-on-ones with you next week as far as where we're in the budget i'm finishing up my meetings with the different directors it's coming together there's still some unknowns out there some of that's what the governor does with the state budget because that does affect us to a certain extent but with with respect there's a lot happening right now between the jail transition putting the budget together for this fiscal year so i think we're in good shape uh timeline wise it's still tight for me to attend one deadline but you know we're gonna do the best we can to try to get there and i've gotten a commitment from the sheriff they're gonna do the best they can to get us what we need to get there on their end too so with that i'll take any questions on that uh but i think we're in good shape moving forward still a lot a lot more questions and answers right now um but we are getting there and i think we're in good place okay i know we'll be madam chair i know we'll be keeping specific law enforcement officers on staff to do the arrests for additional crimes and things like that um as for keeping

the major people that oversee the jail what are your thoughts on that such as major jenkins and the other heads well the the plan right now is what we've talked to the sheriff is that there'll be a transition period between his leadership and the civilians that we will hire to to run the jail the jail administrator and the deputies i think what we've drafted is a transition not to exceed 12 months which gives us time to hire some civilians into those positions um but the intent is everybody else you know on the 30th of september or in i'll tell you right now the transition will happen on the first day of a pay period because that's the easiest time for the transition to happen so whatever pay period makes sense around there one day they'll be sheriff's officer employees the next day they're going to be counting employees now the the major you mentioned the two captains that's gonna be part of the transition agreement where you know i think we've discussed and again we gotta work with the sheriff on this and we not have a detailed conversation a transition period where they're in there for a certain period of time while we go out do a national search and and hire into those positions and that's what i see so we have a civilian jail administrator that the board confirms there's a director and uh reports through me to the board so the major and two can and major and two captains will only stay with us for one additional year the transition period is well is i need them in there long enough to hire civilians into the positions and so that is ultimately the jail administrator if the jail is going to work for the board through me the jail administrator needs to work for me and needs to be a civilian that works for me and so i need a transition period now they're going to be civilian posted positions that anybody this qualify can apply for well i know specific other departments we still have law enforcement office sworn law enforcement officers that stay in those positions such as the bailiffs and things like that so bayless don't work for us those are just contracts that show up so you mean the ones here they're through the in the court systems through the courthouse that's his operation that's not your operation it's still law enforcement but it's not your employee they're not correct they're still law enforcement so my point being is we still have law enforcement that come in to do other jobs and considering keeping specific law enforcement officers in the jail to continue with other jobs so there there is still some things to work out in the jail where there are

individuals that will need arrest power we have not worked that out yet but that is not the jail administrator and the two deputies and i feel that we should be finding out first hand instead of the public coming to us letting us know additional items i should hear from you first so i am concerned i'm not sure what i will like to suggest that you guys have a meeting thank you um and discuss and i'm sure you will with all of us jail transitions there's a lot of work to do i mean it changes and it's evolving over time so there will be briefings and there will be updates as we go forward yes i already did okay um is there anything else no ma'am okay you me jeff oh you no i don't i don't have anything i i need to tell you right now okay okay great um on the jail transition the meetings that um you're having if you have any other future ones involving finance payroll operations that would impact the court um let's see the quarter the clerk well through the i'm saying court because um this the team over there would know if it impacts like trans transmitting data to the clerical system so if it's court related like an arrest that area i would need to have one of my team members in those meetings um just to make sure and also um information technology so anytime those meetings happen i know that we were invited i think two weeks ago to a finance and an it meeting that went well and just wanted to include us on any future meetings the the list of items to go through and audit the transition audit to submit to the external auditors is was finalized today we're going to get it over and email it to um eric breitenbach and dan biles for them to look at a review and see if there's anything else to add into it and then send it out to the auditing firms for a quote and also to the sheriff's office i just want to give an update on that two other items some great things going on operation stand down took place this past weekend and as part of that on friday we have veterans court it's partnership with my office the court state attorney and public defender to help veterans get back on their feet and there were a total of 10 veterans with 22 cases that we processed that day there was a total or over 14 000 that was waived and 12 driver's licenses were cleared to be reinstated so it was a great a great um great day and a great effort on operation stand down another thing i wanted to mention we had our student inspired art wash on wednesday and thursday of last week wednesday newport richie's thursday date city

it was a great turnout the the student-inspired art walk is a partnership with my office and the school board and if you've ever been on the other side of the counter other than the side that i'm on it is a very very stressful situation your very stressful time of your life and the walls are very institutional looking just plain white walls so to bring some inspiration in there some hope and happiness we partner with the school board and their art teachers throughout the schools from kindergarten through 12th grade submit student artwork art artwork to that we display on our walls and it makes it such a beautiful place to be at we had 136 student artists participate in the art walk and also there was 24 schools from kindergarten through 12th grade that participated the receptions were wonderful we had a lot of dignitaries there representative ed hooper represented randy maggart our public defender sarah molo our school board megan harding colleen bodwin allison crumley and school superintendent kurt browning in deputy school superintendent rhaegat so it was a great turnout and just wanted to say if you're in the courthouse you're looking at the artwork you know take a moment see who wrote see who created the artwork and then you can also write notes uh back to the students that we will take for you thank you okay this was fun yeah real quick i do want to come in the clerk's office and i'm not going to get into details it was something bad it was something good but i did um i was at our office yesterday afternoon here in date city and your staff was awesome so again it wasn't it's not a negative thing well i wasn't at the courthouse we were yeah we were yeah we were we saw some pictures too yes was yeah it was we were just getting some document documentation and things like that done and taken care of all good stuff but um yeah you guys your staff was awesome just wanna let you know and i know they were shorthanded for unfortunate reasons i was told absolutely they were very pleasant and and uh everybody was very satisfied so thank you thank you okay um it's me um i first want to talk about osteen road so there's a map that i need to have you put up that was sent and um i'm not sure what we should go to first um the um google earth or well so so um to orient you um this is massachusetts below and then you have a little road coming up on the right and um rowan or congress or rowan coming up on the left this has bothered me for a long time

especially when we had amb skills at marchman you have three schools here i don't know if you can use a pointer someone can you got marchman over here on the left you have wendell crin and you have an elementary school and a school complex there and um so do you know where marshman is uh i don't know so marchman yep then you have i don't know what's the name of that elementary school and then well when wendell redwood high school is now called wendell crane and now we have pepin academy over here to the right used to be genesis prep right there but we have a spike we have a we have a a road that's not connected so um and you can see where right now that purple takes you all the way through the neighborhood all these homes front on that road and you go down to get to pepin and then and then you have massachusetts down here and if we could pull up the google earth i want you to zoom in on massachusetts and um some of you have been here for a while you there's no one else here when um when john gallagher and who was the cfo what's his name mike burenbrock when mike nirenbrock and missy owned genesis prep they wanted to try and connect these but because of mike's position in the county he didn't feel that he could really push it that it seemed very self-serving i as you guys know through history i'm not a fan of spike scripts or whatever you want to call it so if you could pull up google earth um i've i told peppa that i would work on this because especially now that they don't have the buses that they used to have for parents for kids to come to their school their parents have to drive them um and many from great distances to get to their school so um let's see you're gonna go north okay and and their parents okay park so um so if you could make that go down a little bit that's good but go go down a little bit um and down just a little bit more so that's pep pepin the campus is up there on the north and um you see osteen going right in front of it but then it stops and then it picks up again right down here none of these houses to the south on osteen front osti okay there's no driveways touching on osteen so

i really want the county to look at connecting these two roads and we do have some right-of-way there i you know we're talking about affecting 10 houses maybe that are between autumn lane and the campus where the other route you're affecting we counted 131 homes between osteen and orchid lake so it's really not fair in my mind to all those people that are on orchid lake that all the traffic has to come in front of them because we don't have this connection here for safety reasons they've had to have an ambulance come and they actually came up this southern way and they couldn't get in um they'd turn around so you know they they would really like to see if we could um see if there's any possibility of connecting these roads so that's that's number one um madam chair yeah i agree with that connection yeah and while you're looking at that if you get the map just where it is take a look at the road right below where it says marshawn consider that road going all over the little road where's that where's marsha marshall right oh there mark think about that that goes right over that goes right to the government center really think about the trips you save there it's all wet so commissioner starkey i agree i maybe autumn lane i'm gonna mention and i'm going to stand up for the citizens that were there that fought against this many years ago and in addition miss osteen that used to live there if they want to connect and have an additional entrance to their school going down ocean connecting to marchant and having a gate there and a gate on osteen but i disagree with and i do not agree with the connection on osteen those citizens have lived there for over 30 40 years and they do not want the connection in that nation i'm sorry sorry but they're making everybody in the whole world drive all the way around when they don't even have driveways running on that road to get to those this is my district and my citizens okay well we can you know we can see what happens but i i totally disagree with that and yeah this pepin parents have been parking up and down and creating additional traffic up and down those roads and they're not staying in the line they're parking up and down every side road there's 10 to 15 cars parked up and down those sidewalks this will save a lot of people from having to go up and over and down through the neighborhood together when genesis was there we did not have these concerns we do not have the traffic wait matt can we just can you bring maybe bring it back have an agenda brought back so we can debate i don't

think we can debate this now let's bring it back i was ready to move on but yeah administrator let's let's bring it back for an agenda item we need a cost estimate to make the connection because remember your transportation program is fiscally constrained which means in order to do that you're going to have to not do something else well i just want to get it started in emotion i've brought it up many times and i know it takes many steps but there are a few of these around the county that i think we need to fix and while i'm still sitting here i want to get that yeah the chair gave direction the direction of the board and then work on it bring it back no all right um the firefighters left but i want to say there is you know they're talking about the delays in building but there is truly a shortage of materials people are telling me they're moving into a house with borrowed new new construction with borrowed stoves and refrigerators and appliances and they move them in and you get them temporary and when your stuff comes in they take them out move it to the next house i mean i don't know how these apartments are even getting ovens or anything i just right you're going i don't know we just moved into a place and didn't have any issue getting any appliance oh well i'm i'm hearing this we're lucky my um one of my neighbors in aristida's building a house in gulf harbors they had a storm come knock their trust down seven months to wait for new dresses busted their dresses home depot had to loan a refrigerator for three months for a new refrigerator to come in so yeah so um i wanted to tell you that amp skills um you know our renovation is underway and uh it's going a lot slower than i would have hoped but we're moving along but we have our boot camp going on right now at lighthouse for the blind we had 17 i think 16 or 17 which is normally we have 10 9 or 10 so we're real excited but something something about this one is that's unusual is we have our first deaf applicant and our first autistic applicant going through our boot camp so we're excited about that and then lastly well i i did attend the uli meeting in san diego and i'll bring some of my stuff to the next meeting i attended three sessions where you go out to the community and one was on [Music] affordable housing and some very interesting stuff and i will be speaking at the reach conference friday with a commissioner from all the other counties on a panel about affordable housing and thank you staff for helping me get some notes together for that and lastly i i'm pleased to say that governor ron desantis office called me

a couple days ago and i've been appointed to the state apprenticeship advisory council good all right congratulations so very excited to um to do that actually there's quite a few from the tampa bay area steve kona if any of you know him yep yep steve got appointed and a few others so um it's our uh purpose the purpose of our sac is to provide input to the florida department of education on matters relating to the registered apprenticeship program and it's a four-year term so i will figure out where i'm going to find that time okay i think we're done great thank you all right thank you [Music]

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