Penny For Pasco Joint Workshop (03.29.2022)

all right good morning and i would like to call to order the pasco county board of county commissioners penny for pasco joint workshop with pasco county schools of march 29 2022 at this time please silence all electronic devices and please rise for the invocation and pledge make us thankful for your loving providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give you faithful stewards of your good gifts amen amen i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all okay madame clerk please call the roll district one mr oakley here district two commissioner here district 4 christopher patrick here district 5 commissioner district 3 chairman here and also in attendance here [Music] here thank you um chair armstrong would you like to have any words before we start i'm going to i'm going to turn it over to our staff to begin the presentation i really appreciate everybody being here this is such an important uh project to the county and to the school board so thank you so much for your interest okay i think we're turning it over to mr gatt this morning for the first presentation good morning everyone um really pleased to be here to talk about something that has been a part of my professional career for 20 years and i want to start by telling a little story because every initiative like this requires great leadership and um in december of 2002 i was sitting in my office at the school board i was supervisor of psychological services and i got a phone call about five o'clock from then superintendent john long and he called me up to his office and he said ray i want you to help the school district run the penny for pasco now mind you i was supervising psychological services had no clue how to run any kind of surtax initiative or campaign or penny for pasco and i looked at dr long and i said well uh you know i need to kind of talk to my wife about that and he reached over and he picked up the phone and he said what's your home number [Laughter] [Music] and it was at that point that i realized that it wasn't a choosing activity and i want to end that by saying that john and uh provided us and for those in the audience who might have been there in the early days

um john provided us kind of behind the scenes incredible leadership and i remember on the night uh mr altman don't remember that he was in the room with us uh may have been some others in the room but we were having a celebratory party that uh initiative was 5248 we won it by the hair on our chinny chin chins and when we realized finally late in the evening that we had won it because the margin of of victory was small um uh john long was sitting in his office and we called him and said you need to come over here and be a part of this and john long said to me i'm not coming over there he said because if i come over there the attention will be on me and the people that deserve the attention are the people that worked hard to make this happen and that's those of you that were in the room and as um alan will certainly recall later on that evening after the press had left and everybody was gone john long came over to celebrate with us so he was my mentor and my dear friend and uh a lot of praise goes to him for kicking this off and then after that uh mr altman and i were forever in the foxhole together for about 15 months in fact um our wives i think were on the verge of divorcing us because we would be up at two and three in the morning talking about penny for pasco stuff and to show you how crazy it was my wife in the end actually did a scrapbook of everything that we did that we've had uh every now and then when we get together and talk about the battle we were in we have a scrapbook that we can share with folks uh it's getting a little messed up at this point um i want to thank all the people um that helped us in the first penny for pasco as you may recall the first penny for pasca was all about overcrowding in schools i'm not going to talk about the county side of it they can talk about what it was like years ago but we had schools that were 200 capacity and i always use the example of sand pine elementary sand pine elementary had more kids in portables than they had in the original concrete structure we had no green space on that piece of property the only space where we had that children could play was on the basketball courts and that was just our worst example um but we had numerous schools that were at 150 capacity 170 capacity and it was nothing to have 15 20 25 and in some situations 30 portables on a campus we evolved from that particular situation and we moved into the second penny

thank you mr gatt good morning [Music] um just to start with the background uh and um mr gatt has already mentioned this the penny for pasco the original penny for pascal was in 2005 and ran to 2014. so this the first renewal was is started in 2015 and will run until 2024 and of course the second renewal that we are uh here for is will start in 2025 and will run to 20-39 [Music] no no problem um as mr gad mentioned there's just three sources of revenue for the district capital alley uh that's their property uh millage uh which is a 1.5 mill for this school district the penny for pasco obviously and the impact fees that's all the the money that we received to do all of our capital in maintenance work again the background starting here on march 9 2004 is when we started the process and mr gatt gave you all the history uh and we agree at that point to share i mean 45 percent the county 45 the school district 10 the cities then there's five cities in in pasco county uh they originally again it ran from january 1 2005 through december 31st 2014. here's a summary for the school district uh we collected uh during that first 10 year period 149 million hundred and twenty three four hundred and forty seven dollars uh we are required to keep this funny this money separate so obviously this money was invested during this process and we earned about a 1.9 million dollars worth of interest uh the projects that we did with this is uh mr gad mentioned it was we needed new schools at that time and we built you can see uh over fifty percent of the money was used for new schools it was 84 million dollars we also had some remodeling for some of our schools which is what 39 million dollars and the rest of it was roofing projects and some small facility improvements and of course we up front it i mean we actually bonded this money when we got approved so we had to pay the interest on this so you can see here uh that was uh when we campaigned for the second the first renewal we said uh if you all remember it was promises made promises kept we did exactly everything that we said we were gonna do we did every every single project this first renewal uh was on november 6 2012 when we started working i mean actually we we started working on this process early in 2012 but we took it the vote was on november 6 again the same distribution school district 45 percent the county 45 percent the municipality is 10 percent

uh this one again will run for 10 uh 10 years and it's uh begin january 1st 2015 and it will end on december 31st 2024 at that time when we crea worked on the projections this was back in 2012 uh we agreed uh that based on the history of the of the first penny for pasco that our collections were going to be about 226 million dollars i mean for the district 226 million dollars for the county and 50 millions for the cities which but we at that time projected about 502 million dollars which was about a double what we had the first collection here's what so far what we have spent the money we have collected through march of 2022 we have collected 214 million dollars again we keep this money separate and we invest the money as the company comment we have earned about five million dollars worth of interest so total collections to date is a 219 million dollars um we have spent the money again like we said we would uh we have remodeled 11 elementary schools most of our kelly schools if you all know uh what we call kelly schools like quail hollow and now my mind is going blank northwest all those schools orlando lakes suffer hills high school so that's all been uh spent on remodeling those schools our kelly schools were the round schools that some of you are familiar with that had no windows we just spent a money on a middle school high schools we mentioned already several hills lindelo lakes the middle school i believe was bayonet point by the way the technical college which is marchman we remodeled marchman we also were able to use some of the money to finish wiregrass elementary school about 13 million dollars partially funded we were able to do our network infrastructure in every school i actually add wireless access to all of our students every classroom [Music] we also were able to do our student system which we it and again playgrounds and athletic facilities that we need for our schools mostly are elementary schools and again we are friended we funded this money right at 2012 so those are the interest payments that we have made so far based on my projections um i anticipated that remember we have two and a half years left on this one i'm projecting that we will get an additional 111

million dollars which will be mostly used to pay off our debt service or bonding that we did i do however with discussing with the county yesterday i do think the money will be higher however at this point that's what we're going with so it's fair to say the county has a more optimistic cfo than we do probably um here is the he always gets me uh here's our proposed timeline for this and obviously we're on march 29 which is our meeting with the county and the school board and the rest of the ida the dates will be fill in as we determine this uh but i'm going to just go to the what our revenue proposal what we believe our rene our revenue will be for the second renewal and the second renewal is for 15 years at that in this time we're anticipating um about 1.9 billion dollars 856 million for the district the county and the cities obviously um we use this ma this projection uh the county and us agreed to these numbers uh and we're using a two and a half percent increase uh we do realize it might be higher uh based on the 15 years but we're going with this number at this point and i'm going to now turn it over to miss this which is going to go over the projects good morning i'd like to do a brief summary of the categories of projects that we are proposing in the second renewal and our first category is of new schools we have a lot of growth coming to our county as all of you know and so mr williams is going to talk that through with you as well as some school renovations of some of the schools that we were not able to renovate to date or may not have needed it to date but we believe within the next 15 years will need to be renovated we also have district-wide projects such as safety and security projects a lot of things we're doing to make our schools as safe and secure as possible we have wonderful relationships with our pasco sheriff's office and also municipal police departments and work together with them on making sure that we have everything we need to make our schools as safe and secure as possible we also have technology and technology related items that we'll discuss today and some facilities related improvements additionally we have the energy marine center in pasco county and that is something that is very unique to a school system to have a facility like that that all of our students get to visit it's an incredible experience for them and those of you who have children who have visited know that it's a really memorable experience for them we have this targeted as a project that we want to look at for renovations to make sure that it is i'm going to be in good shape for years to come

we also have a new alternative energy depot for our transportation that's in in our list of projects and we also have school traffic improvements listed and that's primarily for pickup and drop off i heard someone joking this morning about coming in the car line and what that's like and so we're looking to make some of those improvements working with the county and pasco traffic services to make sure that we can look at those types of projects and that's to make mr goldstein happy access just with you in mind we also have athletic facility improvements that we have planned in this and we'll walk you through those later in the presentation as well i'd like to turn over to mr williams who's going to talk to you about some of our new school and renovation projects [Music] good morning so mr gad mentioned that in the first penny we we did a lot of new schools as part of our projects as well as renovations when the penny came up from renewal we were in the recession or just coming out of the recession and so our growth had uh pretty much gone to zero and so our focus on the current penny was more on renovations rather than on new schools with the growth that you all are well aware of in our county at this point again we're going back to focusing on not only renovations but also new schools so you'll see that quite a few projects in our proposed list are new schools and so just a few of those you know as you know the 54 corridor in the central pasco area is booming and so we're looking at potentially doing a new elementary school probably in the bexley development also along the 52 corridor we know that the central pasco employment village is starting to come to fruition just to the west of i-75 and so we're we have a k-8 school plan for that area also um we're already planning on doing the k-8 school on our smith property which is in the ballon tray area along the 54 corridor and we anticipate opening that in 2025 but we're looking to use penny money for that also uh villages of pasadena hills most of you are familiar with that but that's the overlay area between wesley chapel and dade city some of those projects are starting to be looked at and starting to come through rezoning so we know that growth is going to happen there so we're planning on a project there uh a k-8 or actually whatever we need at that location we're not sure yet also a couple of our schools are existing but we're we're essentially going to rebuild those schools because they're older facilities and so those are gulf middle and west suffer hills elementary

in the uh some of these are renovations now in the first round we were able to completely redo or mostly redo pasco high in the first round of the penny one of the areas that we did not touch however were the media center we spruced up the cafeteria and kitchen back then but did not do a lot with that and so we're looking to completely redo the cafeteria and kitchen as well as add a second story onto that building for a classroom wing and add some capacity wesley chapel high school mitchell high river ridge middle and high those are schools that believe it or not are approaching the 20 and plus 20 year old time frame and so they are are starting to need uh quite a bit of care and so those schools are on our list for renovation as far as elementary schools on our renovation list again these are schools that are beginning to age so we have them slated and that's fox hollow elementary dr mary jl elementary cypress elementary school which by the way is our last kelly school that has not been remodeled hudson high which is a kelly school is in the process of being renovated and will be complete soon cypress elementary is our final one that needs to be done calusa elementary san antonio elementary as well as chester taylor elementary school thank you i'd like to give you some more information about some of the other projects mentioned in the initial summary and we have some funds allocated for school safety and hardening and that is in particular retrofitting schools with fencing bollards ballistic film and window tint to create some single point of entries to make it more difficult for intruders to get onto our campus we also have safety and security equipment targeted for this list and that would be additional security cameras technology and equipment for district security personnel communication improvements with first responders including body worn camera and crisis management applications those are all things that are critical to our operations of the school district and we've been making a lot of changes over the past few years these we believe will help us further those efforts additionally as i mentioned before we have the energy marine center that we have targeted for renovations and that is a facility that is unique to our school district that we believe is something we want to preserve and maintain for years to come so we have the energy marine center we also have the transportation depot and for those of you who may not know we do have a compressed natural gas facility right here in odessa area where we have 60 buses that run from cng and we're looking to go with another alternative energy station and bus garage in the central and east pasco area additionally school traffic improvements

those of you who are in the pickup and drop off line know what that's like or who drive by them know that there's a lot of traffic issues around the area we work closely with the county and sheriff's office to try to improve those as much as we can and look forward to continuing those efforts it's a little sensitive so i apologize i skipped the slide about computers i know that'll be one that would be of interest we also have funds allocated to significantly increase the number of computers in our schools and we have network infrastructure to replace and upgrade all of that work that ms swenson mentioned we want to allocate funds just to continue that to make sure that we have a reliable and robust network for our student experience we all know that technology has become critical in our classrooms and it's becoming more and more so every day we want to make sure that we have the infrastructure and devices that will allow for that it's taking a minute to catch up with me okay there we go sorry about that we also have the pe equipment replacements and so this is for new playgrounds and playground replacements we know that new playgrounds cost about 55 thousand dollars from our experience with buying one here at on the beautiful starkey k8 campus and so we want to make sure that our children have access to safe safe playgrounds on all of our schools we also have to replace them from time to time so we have that allocated in our funds we also have pe equipment as well additionally we have school furniture as listed as a project to refresh some of our aging furniture and our schools around the county and i wanted to note here that the average cost to fully furnish a school is around 750 000 and so we want to make sure we're able to look at those at the schools and target schools for replacement as we can we do have a lot of schools with older furniture and furniture that needs to be replaced and so we would like to have a system in place to be able to have have schools be replaced more often we have some schools with very old furniture those of you who have been in some of our new schools know that the classrooms don't necessarily look like they used to when we went to school with desks and rows there's a lot more movement in the room and so this furniture will allow for that i got it now additionally for athletic facilities we have schools listed here pasco high school a new track an upgraded football field a stadium replacement including new locker rooms and dugouts we also have wesley chapel high and mitchell high a new track and turf field wiregrass ranch high in wesley chapel a new track in turf field zephyr hills high we have a new track turf field stadium replacement dugout and new gym bleachers and then river ridge high we have a new track turf field stadium replacement dugout gym bleachers field

house and concessions and so some of you may know that these some of these projects were done we renovated the schools we were not able with the budget to also do the athletic facilities we wanted to target that for this project list we also have hudson high school a new track turf field stadium replacement dugouts and gym and we also have hudson high being renovated right now as one of our current penny projects that is in the works now and is going to be just a beautiful facility um compared to where it started to where we'll end we've now seen our kelly high schools be renovated landlakes was our first then we went to zephyr hills completely transformed it and now we're at hudson high right now we also have landa lakes high school for new track turf field stadium replacement dugouts jim bleachers field house and concessions it does not like me i'm sorry i'm going to hand it to mr williams i won't do that to him i'd like to turn it over to mr williams to talk about impact fees and as mr gad mentioned at the beginning of this presentation we really need all three funding sources to be able to be a successful school district in terms of our facilities and so we talked a lot about the penny today because that's why we're here but we also need impact fees to be able to do a lot of the projects to keep up with growth and so i'd like to turn it over to mr williams to share some of that with you most of you know impact fees can only be used to accommodate capacity for new growth and so when growth is high we do our best to use those impact fees to meet the demand ahead of time and try not to be too reactive and so we have several we wanted you to be aware of the projects that are on our list that we plan to use impact fees for due to the coming growth kirkland ranch academy of innovation which you've probably heard of is our new technical high school that's opening this year and so we're excited about that as soon as we finish construction on that we'll be moving to the back of that property to start construction on a new k-8 on that same campus and we anticipate that being open in 2024 in addition to that several projects that we see coming on the in the future uh the the large two rivers project so we look at doing a new k-8 there as well as a new high school also again with the villages of pasadena hills coming where we have a k-8 slated there um in addition to the elementary i mentioned earlier in bexley we also have slated their middle school anna high school and then also a high school in the odessa area that's potentially a magnet high school if we need it on the property we bought from the county otherwise known as starkey sprayfield which is just a little bit east of

starkey ranch one more slot there we go um also since we can use impact fees to accommodate growth a lot of times it makes sense to add a wing to a school and we do that strategically where we think we need it also as we mentioned when we're especially when we're looking to renovate an entire campus we evaluate whether we think we'll need additional capacity at that school and try to do it at the same time we're renovating the campus we did that at sephora hills high school and we did that at atlanta lakes high school so we've done that at several high schools these are potential classroom wings that we think we might need in the future and so that's seven springs middle chester taylor elementary wesley chapel high mitchell high centennial middle wire grass ranch high school west sephara elementary waitman middle as well as the hudson campus and we've already slated to do a wing here at starkey k8 thank you i just wanted to point out dem biles and i were joking the other day that we've presented this material to you and all these numbers knowing that they may change tomorrow um some of the numbers you may have seen by our school sites might have looked a little hefty but i need you to remember that we're talking about five years out 10 years out 15 years out so we're trying to make projections about construction cost and we could be low or we could be high but uh that's exactly what they are it's just estimates projections um and we know that they will change over time additionally i just want to briefly mention the wings um the wings is a little bit of a philosophical shift for us because we've realized that we can add students to a building without burdening the existing infrastructure because you know the existing building has bathrooms lunchroom facilities and so you have to make sure that the wing you build doesn't overburden the infrastructure that was originally put into that building and so our wings generally run from 200 to 400 students and the philosophical shift is why disrupt the whole community and get everybody angry at you if you can build a wing on a school before you make a zone change um which we thought makes some sense we'll see if that philosophical uh shift holds true in the future it won't fix everything um but if we can just tweak population growth in an area with a wing as opposed to building a new school it makes good sense and with that um ms armstrong i'll turn it over to you and we're done with our presentation all

right before uh we take questions from the board members just wanted to i recognize a couple of people you know we talked about the cities being a part of this project and you know that's something we're going to be working closely with them and promoting this so i do want to recognize that debbie mans from the city of newport richie is back in the back there really appreciate you coming for this presentation and look forward to working with the city the other person i'd like to recognize again because it's such an important part of our process is our penny for pasco oversight committee you know uh not school board staff citizens that that we have recruited who volunteer their time to go through our list visit the schools as we do projects just to certify that we are using the money as we uh promised we would use it so uh thomas garatco is here and tom if you would like to s i'm welcoming you to say a few words if you'd like uh you could use um all right well i don't really okay that's fine i wasn't really considering him part of the public since he's part of the process but i did want to point out the importance that school board members feel of that committee because that's our eyes on the ground to know that we are protecting the taxpayers interests that we are doing exactly what they voted on and what they expected us to do so thank you so much tom for for all your support and also anybody else that's on that committee thanks madam chair yes the city manager from port richie is also going to oh it's okay thank you i did not see that so as well as that as well as the sheriff is also here which is a big part of this penny for pasco and the fire chief as well thank you so much for pointing that out i did not want to miss anybody i wanted to make sure they were recognized yeah yes so oh no we just introduced them those would be the two other cities that will be part of this um so so we we want to make sure that they know and that we know that they are a part of this process so thank you so much commissioner moore for that um at this time are there any questions from from school board members or from commissioner county commissioners so any comments all right i think i do believe the uh that our district staff has put together a very comprehensive list that's going to carry us into the future so i really want to thank them for all their work and

i will tell you that we have an amazing planning department led up by chris williams and also our cfo olga swenson we've never been led astray for them they've always given us excellent advice on where the growth is going to be and where the money's going to come from and what money we do not have so uh all of that is much appreciated and really look forward to being able to complete this list that was presented today so i'll turn it over to thank you starkey thank you and yes welcome um to the sheriff and anyone else who came in after we got started sorry if you didn't get introduced um ray your um your opening remarks reminded me that that's how i met you with the penny and i believe even though mr altman's family has insured our property for years that's how i met alan altman too was the uh the penny um committee so memories and and chris i think you mentioned river ridge was 20 years old riverage is 30 years old because i i remember going to the ceremony my father-in-law former school board member played the uh i think his little band played something at that dedication so um uh with that i am going to turn it over to our um county administrator dan biles who doesn't have the history that some other folks have around here but um he's been doing a great job leading us through these challenging times and mr biles i'll turn it over to you thank you commissioner i was just gonna also reference the fact that i don't have 40 years of history yeah he does 10 years ago when when y'all were working on the second issuance i was working on a general obligation bond project with the county city of corpus christi so it's uh very similar but significantly different locations so thank you for that um you know i want to point out a couple things before i hand it over to joanna to go through our presentation but as we were discussing revenue projections yesterday you know when you're trying to project revenue over 15 years there's a couple of things they're going to be wrong right and if you're going to be wrong you want to be wrong low as best you can and so those two things kind of guided the discussions over the last few days of we know we walk out of here tomorrow and we're going to be wrong on the revenue projections we just hopefully if we're wrong we're wrong on the low end and not on the high end and to kind of go with ray's point on construction cost they're the flip side if you're going to be wrong you want to be wrong on the high end so you have additional funds and not long on the row and like with low end like we are on some of our other you know general obligation bond projects right now so um and then as we go

through this you know we are both the school district and county dealing with growth uh we also use impact fees to pay for growth in certain our areas some of those may not be sufficient and we're working through that process namely parks and uh in libraries on those but this helps pay for a lot of those things from the transportation perspective or uh frankly the the elant piece uh most what most people don't realize when they see all the growth going on is that you know 23 of this county is locked up in state or county hands in in conservation it will not ever be developed i mean it's a quarter of the land in this county which is pretty significant based on you know the growth you see going on that will always be set aside um you know each each we have four pies we split our piece into four pies which we'll go into in a second but each one of the pie owners is here in the audience from the sheriff to the fire chief to engineering services who kind of manages the transportation piece to oeg office economic growth who manages our economic development piece and then parks is here on the e-lamp and what we've added this time for discussion which is a little ability to do parks capital uh in the future so um i think that hit my points i want to introduce joanna she came on board a little more than a year ago and i think one of the first projects we gave her even back then was hey you're gonna need to run for me the penny reauthorization because that's a county-wide initiative not just a branch initiative and so she's been great working with school board and a lot of other partners in this and so i turn it over to her we'll kind of run through our high-level discussion of what we're doing some of our priorities um are unpredictable right we don't know where the next economic development project's going outside of a small project at ridge and suncoast which we'll talk about we don't know where the next you know conservation purpose purchase is going because we don't know the next project that comes in with wildlife corridors so some of those are unpredictable the transportation priorities frankly we're going to work off the mpo's priority list which is you know the board members sit on county commissioners sit on so you know some of that you'll see there but some of that it's it's unpredictable and then fire rescue and the sheriff use it mainly for innovative equipment and vehicle purchases to bring in the next level of technology into both into the sheriff's office and into fire rescue which you've seen if you've been out and around and be both the fire stations and with our deputies so with that i'll turn over to joanna let her walk through it thank you dan joanna cheshire chief of

staff county administration i first want to thank the team there many of us were not here for the past pennies so there was a lot of mining of information and collaboration so thank you so much i couldn't have done it without you i'm going to start by reviewing the ballot language and talk about how the penny is distributed as a whole and then specifically the county portion including a very high level presentation just like what dan said a lot of this uh we cannot um we cannot foresee um so high-level presentation of where we are with the current penny in each area and then where we'd like to go if the penny is renewed i'm going to close with some next steps for your consideration as well so here we have the proposed ballot language i do want to point out two things that i highlighted here there's two notable differences from the last penny we are extending this one for a 15-year renewal instead of a 10-year renewal this is you know our the third time it's on the ballot and we feel confident with the past support that we've gotten to extend this for 15 years we're also adding parks and recreation infrastructure like dan mentioned for parks capital because in addition you know bouncing off of extending it for 15 years we do have and considering we have a healthy start to e-lamp and the unpredictability of land acquisition we don't want to arrest ourselves with that specific usage and we want to be able to do things so residents can enjoy those areas i will say that the resolution part of this can be very specific and we can outline that we want to prioritize e-lamp as sort of a waterfall priority e-lamp first and then parks infrastructure after so this is this is basic you know this these haven't changed 45 percent for the county government 45 percent for schools and 10 percent for our cities it's the same distribution as the current penny now a deeper dive into the county distribution our allotment is divided into four areas economic development public safety e-lamp and now and parks and rec infrastructure and transportation so these percentages are the same distribution as the current penny and i'll do a deeper dive now into each one of these areas starting with economic development the projections that we went through showed that we can expect over the 15 years a total of 171 a little more than 171 million dollars with a yearly average of 11.4 million now the jobs and economic opportunities trust fund is the mechanism by which we can fund these economic development projects that improve the local community

economy excuse me proposed projects are required to apply undergo a review by the county commission and comply with the pasco target pasco county target industry job creation incentive ordinance or any other criteria developed by the county commission the jobs and economic trust fund funds not only businesses but also various workforce development programs too such as these pasco edc pasco hernando workforce board career source and skills we have been able to fund several successful projects but in the sake of time i will highlight a few here first one being herod properties isteria this is 235 000 square feet of speculative industrial and office space total pasco for excuse me penny for pasco funding has been seven million dollars contribution to county gdp 32 million and total capital investment 26 million this is a prime example of a successful economically supported project it's 100 occupied and meeting the jobs target of 400 jobs next is mettler toledo this is 250 000 square foot state-of-the-art manufacturing facility our total penny for pasco funding was 7.6 million dollars and this is the best example of an economically supported primary target industry project as they've added more than 100 jobs exceeding the forecast from their executed economic incentive agreement and this one needs no introduction 16 million square feet of industrial medical research office and commercial development penny for pasco funding 25.7 million dollars this research lab and medical office will create 14 500 new full-time jobs so as dan mentioned the specific future economic development projects are can be quite you know confidential and it's difficult to estimate exactly where these new projects will be done out until 2039 but as you've seen in the highlights our economic incentive projects have an average return on investment of twelve dollars to every one dollar of economic incentive next we'll go to public safety please note the funding of public safety which is 20 percent of the county's allotment is shared 50 50 between pasco county emergency services and the pasco sheriff's office so these projections are the same as economic development pocket which were both 20 percent here's a list of vehicle and equipment purchases including a new ambulance and brush truck we were also able to fund the development of fire station 13 on old pasco road in wesley chapel just to name a few now many of these periodic wholesale equipment replacements are on a five to seven year cycle and must be replaced

periodically so that'll that'll be a continuing purchase we plan on using future penny for the public safety pot for items like firefighter safety patient support and various technology next is the e-lamp environmental lands acquisition and management program and and parks and recreation infrastructure again this is the same 20 so these numbers are the same as the the other two buckets that i just went over e-lamp was created with the first penny to acquire real property for protection connection conservation enhancement and promotion of these lands near residential neighborhoods that increase the quality of life this is a glimpse of where we are now uh four thousand nine hundred and ninety one acres acquired in fee simple 793 acres protected by conservation easement and more than 68 million dollars spent on acquisition what you see in red is already purchased what you see in orange is on the acquisition list now we're going into the future penny here for e-lamp these estimates are based on the projected penny revenue for the current penny and the next and projected land values we did the best we could we were conservative with the projections for the next penny by starting with average annual revenue and increasing by five percent across the fifteen years land values were based on an average value now with a three percent escalator i just want to put a reminder in here now the e-lamp program is priority to the unpredictability of land acquisition we talked about in the resolution being specific with the waterfall priority of e-lamp first and then parks capital next that brings me to county projections for transportation this is the last spot of money for us which is at 40 so you will see this number is much larger than the other three buckets a total of 342 million dollars over the 15 years a yearly average of 22.8 million now this is quite a big list so there have been numerous projects here completed under the current penny consisting of sidewalks safety improvements and trails and here are just some notable projects we've completed we've got a lot of projects that are in progress and currently scheduled because keep in mind we do have a year and a half left on the current penny the future penny on transportation uh we i want to point out the first one here countywide multimodal needs study this is the first time we're doing one of those and in the last citizen survey it showed citizens have an interest in getting around the county in ways other than just their car and so this doing this study will really lay the groundwork for what we want to do in the future with our transportation dollars also multi-modal transportation improvements such as sidewalks multi-use

pass bicycle lanes bicycle trail connections sidewalk gaps providing connectivity and safety operational improvements like ada accessibility improvements roundabouts intersection improvements paved shoulders bridges roadway lighting and i just want to close with next steps um on deck we've got uh the interlocal agreement is the next step that just will show that we're working together and we're we're committing to the resolutions we plan to do that in may next is the ordinance which amends section 102 to update with the new penny updates our allocation proceeds extends the duration out to the new date of december 31st 2039 and we asked the soe to put the referendum on the ballot um also adopts the percentages and internal breakdown and we plan to do this we're shooting for the june 7th bcc meeting and then the resolution like i mentioned earlier is our time to get very specific of how we want to spend less money it's a further commitment and it's a requirement of the interlocal to do the resolution we'll do that shortly after the ordinance you're done okay i've been i'm giving the sheriff the signal to come sit next to allison crumbly over here and um [Music] but i can't get text out in here if you don't have an apple phone i think um okay so does do any of the board members have any questions for the county or any of the school board members or county commissioners [Music] this much but you know i look at something like the county-wide um multimodal study multi-modal needs study to me that looks like a situation where we can probably team up with t-barna regional planning council piggy pack on one of their current contracts because again we have these agencies out there that are supposed to be working for us that we're already paying there's got to be a way where we could have you know have that cost savings to our citizens to work together in conjunction possibly with them you know they're working on a study on 19 now which obviously why would we go through the same process on um [Music] yes commissioner we we use this money and other accounting funds to leverage outside agencies funding uh whether it's a state fdied or federal funds you know this is something that would just be part of the bucket that we use to fund something like that you know many of our projects have funding sources that are variety either with county money or county plus state or county state plus federal money so we we do it pretty consistently

but the transportation we are we will i mean kind of commitment is we're working off the board and the mpo's priority list you all set that list with the mpo and we would work through those kind of priority lists with the penny projects on the specific areas that we have on penny yes that answer yeah school board member probably thank you don't you would you mind moving them just add on to that since you brought it up i was just curious and i think you may have answered you are already doing ongoing types of these studies for transportation isn't that what everybody talks about right now right yeah so okay thank you we don't have to wait until 2025. well and we leverage other funds constantly anyway and frankly i would guess that the percentage of the funds in the study is much less than the safety and and the improvements and the right-of-way acquisition so that's very small portions safety improvements the trails element sidewalks those kinds of things you know because your impact fees go to additional capacity so this this supports other elements of that but i will take that suggestion to t barton yeah thank you i'm sure yes commissioner thank you um you know looking at the previous list of projects we had through the pennies as far as transportation as we detailed that a lot more as far as not studies and other things but just what physical projects we're going to get done and i think one of the great things of the first penny was when the market dropped that enabled us to get all the projects done and then add a whole bunch more i would like to see us focus a little bit more especially the commercial areas uh you can go between us 19 be going to home depot and a dealership the road's falling apart we haven't got them done and i know we've done a few of those already but i think it's a good thing to be able to show the people they're going to get behind us to see what project's going to get done most specifically i've had hicks road as a vision road for like seven eight years so i think all of us commissioners should look at what projects we think our citizens would like to see and get them on there so at least people can see what's going to get done rather than the high reveal yes so the intent here is to build the list for the board resolution using the mpo priority list in the categories that we have there and now the board can add or subtract to the list but the also the goal is because transportation is a pretty fluid area we don't want to put a 15-year project list in the resolution so the intent is to really put a five to seven

year project list in the resolution and then outline the types of projects that will be funded in the future but based on the mpo priority list so it but ultimately the board sets the priorities and picks up projects exactly and when you when you have the npo list that's going to deal with certain roads it's not going to deal with those smaller roads or even certain projects that would be very beneficial for the people to get done so i don't want to limit it just to the npo list i want the flexibility to expand it out again ultimately the board sets the priority list yeah um i did want to bring attention to the fact that we also have an oversight committee that is uh run under david engel from our office of economic growth so um they uh go oversee all our economic development um trust fund spending correct am i saying that right yes ma'am yeah so and i don't know if anyone is here from our oversight committee and you have an e-lamp committee and we also have an immediate mpo that does the transportation has several subcommittees that watch this and if any of those people are here um we thank you for your commitment as well um okay any other questions or comments i'm sure you asked the share so yeah he's welcome to make a comment that's what i'm i'm calling stephen oh great i appreciate it uh thank you chair that's why i wasn't expecting but i appreciate the opportunity i had no so so one thing is um everybody knows pasco is much different than we were uh it was 2015. and so pretty much much much different than we were back in 2011. and so our county is growing tremendously and that's one thing as um you know during that time this past penny we our needs exceeded what the penny was able to give us so we weren't able to get vehicles yeah no i know that's what i'm gonna keep waiting on right so oh yes well y'all yeah no and we i'll say i will go back to it you know we all support schools the roads economic development the environmental land um but i'll talk you know public services uh the county public services you know reach out to homelessness fire rescue uh the county jail these are all things that you know within county services are exploding because of our needs our county is growing so quickly the needs are overwhelming right now and so you know as we're looking at the penny you know i'm gonna go through this quickly but you know this and this is only research we did from the sheriff's office side i can imagine fire rescue and everybody else can have their numbers you know you know kathy on the spot public services i can imagine all the needs that you've grown but from law enforcement side you know we're 64 out

of 67 counties for the amount of citizens that we serve um that wasn't that was this is research that's done this isn't this is florida department law enforcement numbers florida tax watch says we're 55th out of 67 counties uh for funding for ems fire rescue everything you know in pasco you know compared to pinellas we have 528 deputies they have 745 deputies per thousand where 1.06 they're at 1.86 pasco county this is where i go back to the county services and i give kudos to county services we actually serve more people than you know in pinellas because for a law enforcement standpoint we are actually the fifth largest jurisdiction in the state of florida where pinellas has a popular in our population's 526 0905. pinellas is 12th at 275 0985 and so you know if you look at our budget pinellas and this is the same uh commissioner chairman you you made this point years ago when you showed up never forget you did that diagram funding the fundings i never forget that and so law enforcement's the same way you know without including a jail the sheriff's office budget is 105 million 900 000. pinellas is 190 million 700 000 just for law enforcement services so i i go back to i want to be you know part of the solution with you all i want to be here and that's why i think every this is the great thing about penny is about being part of solution and being part of that solution is allowing us fire to jail you know us being able to talk about these things because i go back to it the impact is so great and you know last night i'll give you a scenario as much as our county is growing three death invest this at 6 30 at night this is not one of everything's three death investigations missing child pursuit domestics suicide attempt and overdoses at 6 30. and so when you get the complaints for parking issues or homelessness these are priorities that we're all trying to struggle with and trying to reach out to so you know this is where i go back to i appreciate the opportunity i wasn't able i think you were going to give it to me i know because i know public comment but at the same time is i just want to put on the radar because our schools are growing so quickly you know with all with the growth um our needs as a community are growing so quickly as a need and so when we're looking at the penny maybe we'd always have to do it the same way maybe we could adjust it different ways to address some of these needs but i go back we want to be part of the solution here because we all want that premier county we all want that county where people love to be here and so with all this growth going on you know as we adjust and we look at things from fire rescue from the law enforcement side to the county jail just make sure and

county services because homelessness is going to go up the needs are going to go up mental health issues are going to go up these are things that we should address and look at when we're looking at the penny so thank you chair thank you and there's there's no doubt that um we all have needs and i i think all of us in elected office that have the ability to raise money face this dilemma every budget year and you know how do we fulfill all the needs of the county um but keep the mantra of what we have here in pasco county and we are we are uh a very i think we could call ourselves a pretty conservative county that has low taxes and so at some point we all have to decide what what is the balance that we want to have here with the amount of taxes we collect and um the services that we provide and i think we have that challenge all the time great point did did you want to speak commercial uh school remember point at the end when you're done um i wanted to make sure that the superintendent of schools had an opportunity to speak so i'm just you don't have to no i never missed it but i tried to text you and uh and it the message failed so i definitely want to make sure you had an opportunity no i'm i'm i'm i'm fine i i i jest um uh just a couple of things uh first i would be remiss if i did not thank uh my team uh the district school board team uh for working tirelessly on this issue not on this renewal issue not only on this renewal issue but also the two the initial uh penny and then uh the first renewal uh these um these issues take a great deal of human capital to make sure you're thorough uh and you're portraying to the public uh what's actually happening in in a school system um and uh kudos to to our team at the district also i want to thank the county uh pasco county government has been a great partner with us uh not just on this but on the impact fees and other issues that the traffic issues and and what have you and i just wanted to publicly thank uh the county commission and the administrator uh i've picked up telephone before called dan and next thing you know things are taken care of and i am very appreciative of that and lastly i want to thank the citizens of pasco county we would not be sitting here today if the citizens did not although as mr gad pointed out by the skin of our teeth in 2004 they approved the penny the first time but the second time was resounding and i'm hopeful and optimistic that the uh second renewal will be resoundingly approved as well um and

i often often joke when i say this but it isn't funny that i can't imagine serving as superintendent of this district without that penny uh with the growth that this district has seen um it is incredible uh and kids would literally be sitting on laps of each other uh if we did not have access and the voters were gracious enough to approve this penny so still moving forward there's a great deal of work that has to be done in order to assure our public our voters uh that we're worthy of the renewal and uh our district is committed to that to that end so thank you uh thank you all right madam chair apologize i apologize i need to clarify we are 60 pasco 64th out of 67 counties when officers per thousand so i just want to clarify that but the one thing i want to say thank you also the staff county staff has been phenomenal the partnership working together and that's what makes that's what makes pasco unique from the school district the pasco county you know the the community and sheriff's office working together and i think that's one thing any challenge we've ever faced we've overcome because we're working together yeah and um i want to um say i'm very grateful to everyone to coming here today and just um you know i won't be chair forever i'll be chair this year but i am a big believer in these workshops and um i hope that that this is something that we do regularly um we enjoy doing workshops with our cities as well and i thought we had one coming up with port richie and newport which i don't know what happened to that but i think it it got did that get cancelled and oh no they didn't show up okay all right sorry i'm forgetting i think oh yeah we're doing on the east side so we're due for uh dade city and zephyr hills so i think that's important that we um we have these kind of workshops and meetings and um i think we're very fortunate in this county that all the electeds and municipalities um and constitutionals all work so well together it's not like that in a lot of the other counties so pasco county is very fortunate and olga congratulations on your retirement all right is anyone else have any words okay then i guess we will call this adjourned and um again thank you to everyone and especially those working on our citizens committee to help us make this be successful