05.04.2021 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Hybrid Virtual Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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meeting of may 4th 2021 a reminder to everyone present please silence your electronic devices and mute your microphones now we will proceed with public hearing agenda starting with item p44 uh madam clerk do we have proof of this item yes mr chair um item p-44 was published in the tampa bay times on april 4 2021. good afternoon commissioners denise hernandez planning and development item p 444 is pd210284 this is the adoption hearing on this item so today we're asking that you accept public comment and adopt the proposed ordinance amendments by roll call vote so this is an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners amending the pasco county land development code chapter 500 zoning section 526 c2 general commercial district subsection 526.3.0 conditional uses multiple family dwellings and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer providing for severability inclusion into land development code and an effective date and as you know this went to the local planning agency found consistent with the pasco county comprehensive plan recommended approval to the board of county commissioners on 4-1 of 2021 the first reading with a full presentation was done to the board of county commissioners on 4 20 2021 so today we're asking that you accept public comment and adopt the ordinance amendments by roll call vote okay uh we have anyone sign up on webex one on webex and no one on email for p44 okay is anyone at the kiocs on uh p44 there's no one at the kiosk okay thank you you're moving for approval second what is there hold on is there are are there any emails for this no no no okay no emails nobody on webex and there was no one on the keyboard can we discuss can we discuss this you got emotion you got a motion in a second so discussion okay discussion um i know when i originally put in the motion to remove multi-use out from conditional c2 zoning but it seems like we still have the um we have three exceptions to the rule and i agree the exception to vertical integrated mixed use ground floor office or other non-residential use because that is a true mixed use but i didn't realize well i mentioned his staff i was questioning the affordable housing as defined in section four two zero point zero zero four mr yeah i think that was something that came through the planing commission and that was um an exception that they made

i think they discussed in the last meeting that was an exception made at the planning commission which was added to the ordinance i'm not in disagreement if you want to pull that out i'd be in favor i would like to pull that out because that was not part of the original motion and i did speak to staff prior to this meeting i'm in my motion to to remove the affordable housing portion out of it okay with a second okay uh discussion because what i'm not i'm not in favor of that i think um we need to be able to still find places to put uh workforce housing and um that would be no problem for the county i agree with affordable housing but not in the c2 use and the commercial zone you know i think each site is i think there may be sites that are certainly appropriate like on u.s 19 um so um i think that's i think that's a dangerous road to go down if we take uh that pretty much changed because that wasn't that same motion or wasn't that before us before when we talked about this or is this coming back to us with this no so basically the history of this is it was brought to the planning commission um on in march and the planning commission said that they had concerns with excluding um the uh the uh allowance of uh multiple family dwellings as a conditional use in c2 that there would be unintended consequences some of the things that were talked about at that meeting was affordable housing the west market area and i know the board during their discussion separate from the planning commission obviously the board talked about that vertical integration was very very important to the board having the multiple family and the allowance of the integration of commercial uses or office uses or non-residential uses so um so that was brought back to the planning commission on april 1st and the planning commission felt comfortable that that would satisfy the concerns that they had with the unintended consequences and then that was then brought to the board of county commissioners for the first reading there was some some discussion at the at the board and then you know we're here today for the adoption after chairman um after the april first meeting i did reach out to staff and i was questioning because i know what my original motion was and this wasn't the intent and if they're developers i would like them to come in and look for a multi-family one

two or three not a multi-family one two three or commercial use and that was the whole purpose of the original motion but now we're adding apartments back in the only true apartment in this exception would be the vertical integrated use with the commercial floor and apartments above well i think i think the concern was the reason they added that back in the concern was for affordable housing and workforce housing that you need in some areas they still may fit on that circumstance and we didn't want anything to hold us back from doing that because 40 of the citizens of pasco county need housing and so when you eliminate that across the board you eliminate a lot of workforce housing in some of those areas where you really need it so i'm concerned about change of emotion of that i really was before the motion before it happened i'm very concerned about that added in there take that out so do we do we have a map that shows where the multi-families one two and three are and compared to the commercial i i don't have that map available for for this particular for the following which is the moratorium there's gonna be research and that information will be brought to the board of county commissioners because i'm not saying take away affordable housing on the other aspects of it it's just the commercial or c2 so they're just going to go mf1 but then we wouldn't of course at that point we wouldn't know whether it's affordable how you know that that's not something that they have to disclose so you could just apply for an mf1 mf2 or mf3 zoning um and mr chairman yeah sure so someone could if we approve it just the way it's written right now someone would if they wanted to change and use the conditions they're still going to come before the board for the approval right so we could look at it with still doing what your intent is on ninety percent of it but the other ten percent you give them the flexibility to come in they're still going to come before the board on a public hearing to go forward with it and frankly it may it may work out where we the board at the time where it may be may say you know what much as we didn't want to take away commercial we think it's still going to it's appropriate at the time so i'm going to withdraw my support for the motion the way it was modified so then are we just taking oh they're still going to be multi-family use so we're just taking away basically class a apartments so you're you're based on the motion as

i understood it you're striking out affordable housing as defined in section 420.0004 florida statutes that's that's how i understood the motion see the reason they the reason they put that in put that back in was the fact that it was going for affordable housing or workforce housing that you were going to do it had to come back in instead of trying to be a conditional use now you're telling them they have to re-zone it and it costs more and more expense and doing that reason for affordable housing and i think that was part of the reason that's accurate zoning application is more expensive than a conditional use application yeah that's another that's accurate right yeah mr trump yes no commissioner fishbacher i support your original idea by far i'm i'm with you um i have no like i'm with you about removing the affordable housing portion now but it just sounds to me now that you've got a 3-2 we have a 3-2 where we may may lose that so might have to go ahead and be amenable to make this pass to go back to the original um i thank you every project this world i tell you every project we've seen in the past and i'm sure those in the future we've all been pretty much on the same page we've all uh discussed the items very well and i think we're smart enough to understand if it fits for affordable housing wherever that project might be i think we can make the right decision to put it there right so i don't think we need to leave this out i think we need to make that less cost of a project for for those people we need like to say 40 of our people need the citizens in a pasco county i agree with affordable housing okay and i'm sure you do so i think taking it out of this just really changes it for me yeah i wouldn't want to change and make it more costly so but i have a motion okay so it sounds like what i need to do is go back to amend my motion to my original motion as recommended by staff same page second yeah okay okay so i've got a motion a second by roll call vote district two commission more district three commissioner starkey aye district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano aye district one chairman oakley aye motion pass five zero um question just in case i wanna recall that vote is it possible here to add the landscaping language that is sorely missing from our land development code that they have to have trees in the front no i don't think it's broken here this is only amending the condition that

the conditional use section for multi-family i have somewhere to get that quickly i understand what you're saying i'm sure ms hernandez can put it in a glitch i think we're working on it because i'm on board with you on that yeah uh i've seen some of that without man's skin it does not look good and we don't need it in this county and a queen palm is not landscaping yeah okay and i hate to do this mr chairman not just going on since we're having a little bit of discussion on this and i think it'd be proved the team to maybe bring something back what commissioner um starkey was mentioning a second ago because i didn't bring up today i was gonna wait till the next meeting but i wanted to talk more about that tree mitigation fund because i'm noticing some um some um commercial um this retail establishments that are not following have not followed the code but maybe they don't look like they're doing that good so maybe we can step in and use some of those funds for the tree mitigation if you look on the um wesley chapel boulevard 75 54 exit um long story long story about go make it short we work very closely with fdot to go that landscaping so if you've gone there in the last like two to three weeks it's amazing isn't it it's beautiful but we have a couple of situations that surround that that have nothing so it kind of takes away from it right so if we could bring that back just kind of yeah on that issue yeah well i'll save my comments when we bring it back i like the next uh item we'll move to p45 proof item p 45 was published in the tampa times march 21st 2021 p45 is pd210316 an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners establishing a temporary moratorium 180 days on the submission and acceptance of applications for conditional uses rezonings and comprehensive plan amendments proposing to increase multi-family entitlements within the moratorium area providing foreign authority legislative findings of fact definitions moratorium area temporary moratorium imposed duration of temporary moratorium and severability this item um this is the adoption hearing on this item so we're asking you to accept public comment and adopt the proposed ordinance by roll call vote this went to the local planning agency who found it consistent with a comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board of county commissioners and a full presentation was done to the board of county commissioners on april 20th 2021 okay uh do we have anyone signed up on

webex yes uh mr chair we have three individuals on webex okay okay we first have john tamsu if you could please state your name and address for the record please john thompson 26738 wing dome drive wesley chapel florida 33544 sir can you please uh repeat um it didn't cut in and okay you didn't come in until um halfway through john thompsou 26738 winged elm drive wesley chapel florida 33544 thank you sir you may proceed good afternoon and thank you for the opportunity to speak i urge you to vote in favor of the moratorium ordinance data-driven decisions are usually the best ones as is common practice in the scientific and business industries taking 180 days to collect the needed data is essential to the board making decisions that have a direct and long lasting impact on our community the members of the seven oaks resident council spread the word via social media and boots on the ground to educate the citizens around the proposed ordinance we gathered 128 signatures in person from residents in seven oaks and while engaging pasco county residents at the wesley chapel walmart and landlakes publix not one person that we spoke to was against the ordinance these letters were submitted to the admin and asked not to be read into record in order to respect your time please recognize the voice of the community we are we were able to capture the topics of population density and observed over saturation of multi-family units is a common theme we encounter when just discussing life in pasco county with our friends families and neighbors as a pasco county resident in the proposed designated moratorium area i have witnessed the increase of traffic and related accidents the continued overcapacity schools like seven oaks elementary and wiregrass ranch high school a perfect example of infrastructure racing to catch up to our residential needs is the diverging diamond interchange road project this frequently delayed project and others like it play a role a large role in the quality of life of pasco residents and it's one of the many variables that must be considered when evaluating rezoning and conditional uses our infrastructure needs to catch up with the current master plans in place before making any further changes in the generally well thought out design of pasco county existing unused parcels already zoned to accommodate multi-family dwellings should be taken into account before rezoning or allowing conditional use i'm also asking the board to do a better

job of understanding the data presented to them when deciding on conditional uses and rezonings sources of data can be biased in the board's recent approval of the conditional use permit allowing multiple family dwellings in a c2 general commercial district north of seven oaks the data was misleading in terms of traffic and school capacity quotes from chris williams director of planning services pasco county schools indicated seven oaks elementary was currently slightly over capacity but the data sheets provided by the developer showed under capacity additionally relocatables also known as portables are a clear illustration that school infrastructure is not on par with the needs of a community the units are disconnected from the main campus provide no cover and rainstorms and kids are moved to the media center or similar areas during thunderstorms as noted by bill cronin president and ceo of pasco economic development council there are still too many people living here and working somewhere else our county is not the overflow housing department for hillsboro and pinellas counties we have our own growth strategies and creating more local jobs for our residents is a priority and it's difficult to do that if we zone c2s into multi-use all the time please vote to approve the moratorium ordinance support data-driven decisions and allow the county enough time to collect the information needed thank you for your time and god bless thank you for comments next so um we did have mark doyle on webex he has dropped off so i'm going to move to the next individual and see if mr doyle will come back on so the next person is eric garduno for the record thank you certainly eric arduino with the bay area apartment association po box 15 1958 tampa florida 33 684 thank you sir you may proceed thank you good afternoon commissioners thank you for this opportunity to speak uh shortly you'll be discussing a moratorium related to apartment development in a portion of the county the underlying question at route of this moratorium is whether or not there is an oversaturation of apartments for the ordinance the blcc will direct county staff to look at some key data points these include the number of multi-family units already there existing entitlements and acreage zoned for multi-family while these questions can help determine how many apartments there are today and potentially the maximum number of apartments that could be built in the future they alone don't speak to oversaturation while these quit um oversaturation can and does occur

it happens when there are more units than there is demand as a result when oversaturation does occur vacancy rates skyrocket units stay empty and developers lose their shirts based on the information we have available to us they'll we we don't see anything like that happening in pascal county that said if the board moves forward with a moratorium we do ask that you consider adding additional demand and supply factors for the county staff to research that are relevant to the question of oversaturation we are grateful that the planning commission already added vacancy rates to the ordinance which is a key indicator of demand our data on this point indicates that vacancy rates in pasco county are at 5.8 and that's near historic lows we're pretty confident that the information gathered on this point will demonstrate strong demand for apartments because there is particular demand or sorry particular interest in recently built apartment communities an important demand indicator is lease ups so every apartment community starts with 100 vacancy and lisa is the period between when leasing starts and the community is full typically this lasts 8 to 12 months after the apartment community is open so another important data point to gather is how long are these ups taking on the supply side is also important to examine what realistically can be built for instance the supply of labor and supply of raw materials are real constraints on building new apartment communities at its peak the most departments that the uh county was able to build in any given year is 50 about 1500 looking at how many were built recently will give us an eye into how many can be built into the future ultimately we're seeing substantial changes in the county recent growth rates for the county are at 30 percent or looking at 30 increase in population in the next 20 years these people are going to need places to live and a lot of them are going to want to live their apartments we hope this supply will be there when they come thank you for your comment thank you mr mr doyle has not rejoined the webex so i have no other individuals on webex for this item we have i guess do we have anybody at the kix yeah is anybody at the kiocks there's no one at the kiosk all right thank you i will go into the emails and i believe you told me you had 51. um yes mr chair total of 63 were submitted um actually 50 emails were asked to be read on record i have one letter from our sheriff asked to also be read in the record as he's not able to

make it today all right um and since there are so many emails to read i asked um donnelly schmidt my operation supervisor to help me with it so um i'll get halfway through and then she'll help me with some of this all right okay all right so i'll start with the letter from uh chris nacho our pasco county sheriff address eight seven zero zero citizens drive newport richie florida three four six five four dear commissioners i'm ready today to express my support for the moratorium imposed by the paso county board of county commissioners 60 days prior regarding family multi-family developments as well as the proposed ordinance related to conditional use on commercially zoned properties as the board of county commissioner knows well the pasco the pasco sheriff's office has long championed a well thought out approach to growth and development in our county while available housing including multi-family developments is a critical component of our county's future of our county's future ensuring that infrastructure and resources keep up with the growing demand development is equally imperative similar to what i hear about your county services the sheriff's office has a difficult job keeping up with the current demand for services that our current citizens ask for and deserve quickly approving multi-family developments only exacerbates the problem additionally if we continue to focus on being a bedroom community focusing on sending workers to businesses to the south we will continue to increase traffic issues at key and limited intersections that will intensify traffic issues that in turn create public safety issues with multi-family homes our population will quickly increase to eventually complete to eventually compete with the overall population of pinellas and inch closer to hillsboro however without the tax base provided by the economic engines of these count of these two counties our collective ability to serve our citizens is hindered to demonstrate as it stands currently the pasco sheriff's office receives barely half of the funding per citizen that our neighbors in hillsborough county receive per citizen served and only 35 percent of the funding per citizen served that our neighbors in pinellas county receive the board of county commissioners has a strong commitment to funding public safety as the sheriff of the as as the sheriff's office receives 50 of new revenue each year and the board's commitment to pay increases which has stems to flow

have just stemmed a flow of members having for for better pay in surrounding counties for which the pasco sheriff is grateful however there is still work to be done as demonstrated by this funding disparity per citizen served there are three graphs one graph is population served by sheriff's office 2019 pasco is 484 249. hillsboro is 988 thousand 250. pinellas is 399. 399 488. next um chart budget of the sheriff's office in 2019 pasco 142 billion one i'm sorry 142 million 169 188 um hillsborough 463 449 um i'm sorry 600 400 and 463 449 660. pinellas county 315 for 458.040 and then cost per citizen served in sheriff's office in 2019 pasco 294 hillsboro 469 and pinellas 790 with these limited resources the pasco sheriff's office is committed to responsibly through innovation addressing the concerns of citizens of pasco county this has included a commitment to going upstream to address issues before they become law enforcement concerns through the creation of our behavioral health intervention team and partnerships throughout our community unfortunately recent research by our behavioral health intervention team found that pasco county desperately needs more mental health resources as well while examining mental health providers per citizen pasco county has one mental health provider for every 1460 citizens while the state average is one mental health provider for every 700 citizens we must allow resources to catch up to the population growth we have already seen it is for this reason as well that the pasco sheriff's office requested and was provided a seat at the table in the pre-application review process we believe the seat at the table will assist the county as these developments continue it is critical for law enforcement to be included as each development brings in additional people and additional traffic concerns that will ultimately become law enforcement issues it is important to remember that each multi-family development is essentially adding a small city and as such we must allow resources to catch up to this potential influx any development multi-family or not is law enforcement intensive this is what allows our neighbors in hillsborough pinellas to have more resources

available as they balance residential growth with commercial and industrial we will we with focus we must focus on job creation and infrastructure with this the pasco sheriff's office would support an extension of the moratorium to allow the sheriff's office to be en engaged moving forward we are now included in the pre-application review process and believe that the moratorium should be continued to allow for our input in these projects as they move forward thank you for your time and attention to this important matter sincerely chris knuckle sheriff all right the um first email to be read in to the record is from antonio ponzi address is four three one four will star circle dear a county dear pasco county planning commission i request the following to be read into the record i would like to voice my support for a moratorium on apartment development for background i live in crosswinds which is a single-family detached home subdivision in seven oaks my wife and i specifically chose to purchase in this in that area in 2016 after we moved from out of africa from out of state because of its level of safety the relative peacefulness in the well-renowned elementary school given where we were ready to and have started a family given that the school is already very close to capacity and the apartment complex north of seven oaks has already uh was already approved adding this many potential students would easily push the school even further over capacity crosswinds has a large number of residents with close to or already or already elementary school-aged children and i plan on notifying them as well regarding this proposal so that they may also address their support for this proposed moratorium besides the school capacity traffic would increase dramatically throughout seven oaks which also has an impact on safety entrances to seven oaks are already heavily congested and i can't imagine how much worse additional apartment complexes would make it especially during rush hour please don't add to the traffic at least until additional infrastructure is in place such as additional schools and road improvements overpass road i-75 ramp diamond at 65 and 75 etc so i ask you to please consider the safety of seven oaks residents and the quality of education for the children of seven oaks when making your final decisions because they are our future i am proud to be a pasco county resident i have told numerous people looking to leave their current towns that this is the county to be in because pasco county seems to really care about its residents please allow me to continue having that pride so i may continue encouraging

people to consider pasco county for raising their families next email is from joe and michelle sanzani estanziani address is 3601 hickory hammock loop wesley chapel florida three three five four four paso county commissioners good afternoon as a 12-year resident of wesley chapel we have witnessed extreme growth and expansion at this time i would like to voice my concerns about the continue about the continue of a park apartment complex's approval and rezonings and urge a moratorium i would like the statement read and to be on the record the next email is from laura benny hello my name is laura benny and i reside at 2416 spring hollow loop wesley chapel florida 33544 i'm reaching out to oppose the building of more apartment buildings in pasco county specifically the apartments being proposed near sam's club off of ancient oaks boulevard and highway 56 the building of a complex here will cause undue stress to our already overpopulated road systems in our very overpopulated school system please consider the current residents that voted you in to this position and vote no to more apartments as i drive down highway 45 54 to work each morning there are already no less than four complexes being built which will overburden that road we already dealing with that corridor being turned into another highway 19 with all the traffic lights and accidents please do not make it worse that it than it already is please make sure that my opposition is ready to the record thank you for your time the next email is from shiraz irani hello my name is shiraz irani and i reside at 27435 silver thatch drive wesley chapel florida 33544 i'm reaching out to oppose the building of more apartment buildings in pasco county specifically the apartments being proposed near sam's club off of ancient oaks boulevard and highway 56 the building of the complex here will cause undue stress to our already overpopulated road systems in our very overpopulated school system please consider the current residents that voted you in to this position and vote no on more apartments as i drive down highway 54 to work each morning there are already no less than four complexes being built which will overburden the road and it causes excessive traffic noise we are we are already dealing with that corridor being turned into another u.s high are you at another highway 19 with all the traffic lights and accidents please do not make it worse than it already is

please make sure that my opposition is ready to the record thank you for your time shiraz irani next is from kathleen sierra address 26908 winged elm drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four i would like for this to read into the record i would like to communicate with you about how displeased myself and my entire family are with the oversaturation that is happening in paso county especially wesley chapel let me be very clear i am not opposed to rental properties they are a necessity at one point or another we all probably have and will live in an apartment however the oversaturation of our area cannot handle any additional apartment buildings here are a few major reasons why i'm opposed our roads are overcrowded traffic has become somewhat of a nightmare i can't even imagine how much additional traffic will be added to our roads if additional apartment buildings are approved specifically route 56 route 54 and brisby downs the roads are currently hazardous and dangerous as it is right now our schools are already overcrowded again how will this be addressed if additional apartment buildings hoping you start to realize that the majority of the residents are very frightened of how bad this oversaturation will become thank you the next email is from ross andel address is 27015 bush drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four to whom it may concern i want to voice my vehement opposition to this proposed to this proposal and i asked the board to vote yes on the 180-day moratorium the plan would put new apartments in an area which is already over saturated with development without proper infrastructure why rezone commercial land for more multi-family units when there is sufficient land zone for that some for that same purpose in the same area while adding housing to paso county is reasonable this proposal would clearly put an excessive strain on an area that cannot sustain more growth the result is likely to be serious overcrowding of a relatively small area more car accidents as well as additional stress and lower quality of life for all residents involved in some this is a move in the wrong direction for pasco county thank you for your attention to this email the next email is from aaron mckee address is 3138 sunwatch drive wesley chapel florida 33544 good afternoon the following emails should be read into the record regarding p45 an ordinance by the paso county board of county commissioners establishing a temporary moratorium 180 days on the

submission and acceptance of applications for conditional uses resorting and comprehensive plan amendments proposing to increase multi-family entitlements within the moratorium area providing for authority legislative findings of facts definitions more term area temporary moratorium imposed duration of temporary moratorium and severe inseverability file number pdd21-0316 commissioner district my husband tim mcgee and i erin mcgee live in seven oaks at the address of three one three eight sun which drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four we are asking to vote yes on a moratorium regarding and any building new or in the future of apartments having this huge influx of residents in the schools will cause further crowding could lead to more rezoning not to mention the deterioration of our property values thank you for your time next email is from tim hutton address is 26845 still brook drive west of chapel florida 33544 i'm writing this email as a concerned resident of west chapel area our area is being threatened by yet another apartment multi-family complex i live in seven oaks we currently have three apartment complexes within a mile from my house with a fourth on the way over the last few years we have dealt with multiple school rezonings increased traffic and the lack of new jobs creating commercial space apartments will only bring more people per square foot and limit potential commercial space for better parks or better parks for our current residents i'm not in favor of more apartments in the wesley chapel area and would like my opposition to be put into the record thank you next email is robin and garrita address is three six three five pepper vine place wesley chapel florida three three five four four seven oaks residents i'm reaching out to support moratorium for the area of 56 near the entrance of seven oaks our roads are already overpopulated and so are schools there are many housing developments already in the area and building more homes apartments or attractions in this area will only increase traffic congestion congestion please make sure that my opposition is right into the record thank you for your time next email is from christopher baker address is 29152 chapel park drive wesley chapel florida 33549 hello i'm writing uh to ask the paso county representatives to vote approve the moratorium on rezoning in pasco county i'm a resident in the seven oaks community in wesley chapel and we are being

inundated with new apartment buildings i feel we need to reconsider a few items and then the moratorium would allow for adequate time to do so please note as a community we are not happy with what is happening around us thank you next email is from ann uh gripman address is two seven six one fine i'm sorry two seven six one five pine point drive wesley wesley chapel florida 33544 please read this email into the official record at the meeting of board of county commissioners as a resident and voter of pasco county i support the moratorium on building additional apartments in pasco county next email is from larry gertman [Music] address 276155 pine point drive west of chapel florida 33 644 please read this email enter the official record at the next meeting for county commissioners i'm a registered voter and a pasco county resident i strongly support the moratorium on construction of additional apartments in pasco county next email justin hodnit address two four two zero spring hollow loop wesley chapel florida three three five four four to whom it may concern my name is justin hodnet i reside at 2420 spring hollowed loop wesley chapel florida 33544 and i'm writing this in support of moratorium to delay the rezoning of properties to multi-family units please stop making decisions about the data needed to verify without the data needed to verify the direct and long-term impacts to the residents of pasco county i'm not opposed to mfus or rentals but the residents of pasco would be better served by utilizing the designated zoning of those properties as they were intended work on incentivizing companies and new commercial development of the properties in question rather than going after a quick use for them by allowing the construction of mfu's hillsborough and pinellas see paso county as a bedroom community where residents live in pasco but have to commute to hills for our panels for employment as it stands now there are plans to build four-story apartments um almost directly at the entrance of my community of seven oaks i pose this with every ounce of my being the peaceful entrance will be overshadowed by an apartment complex and the increased traffic will have a negative impact on the area i specifically bought into this neighborhood so that my children can attend seven oaks elementary as it is one of the best schools in the area the children living at this apartment complex would be zone four soe which is already having capacity issues

when i was renting a house in meadow meadow point we saw the direct impact of new housing development in wyograss elementary there was plenty of incentive to allow more neighborhoods but no amount of money went to schools to allow them to prepare for an increased class size please stop making this mistake next email is from amanda meehan my name is amanda meehan and i reside at four two zero one granite glen loop let's say chapel florida three three five four four i'm reaching out to oppose the building of more apartment buildings in pasco county the building of more complexes will cause undue stress to already overpopulated road in our overpopulated school systems please consider the oversaturation already affecting the current traffic situation that has contributed to oh and to an over abundance of accidents in addition to delayed traffic travel times on a daily basis in addition i'm opposed to the building of new apartments that would also attribute to the oversaturation of schools which is a huge huge part of why many chose to live in pasco county originally the highly sought after schools will no longer will no longer will be no longer desirable once overcrowded the well-being and safety of the current residents should be taken into consideration please make sure that my opposition is ready to the record next email is from ronnie beckwith is 3922 sorrel vine drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four movement may concern please read into public record vote yes for the moratorium wesley chapel does not need more overcrowding by rezoning commercial properties to multi-family housing aka apartments when there's plenty of land already zoned for multi-family housing in the area for the past seven years seven oaks as well as several other communities in wesley chapel have been in uncertainty with three different school rezoning proposals the developer admits that the addition of these apartments puts seven oaks elementary at 101 capacity this means that there is not enough seats for our students and or they will be placed into portables with the continued development leading to ongoing school capacity issues not only do the kids get shuffled around but the teachers and the administrators do as well our students are bus nine miles to middle school middle and high school with high school kids getting on the bus at 6 28 am in addition the roads to get to the new school cypress creek are dangerous to travel especially for inexperienced teenage drivers and now the construction causes additional challenges and backups this area is projected to encounter

further growth and could expedite additional rezoning please review the purpose for the current zoning code and intent for the community why change it why not use land already zoned for apartments to build apartments consider how the area will develop and look at un at undeveloped land already zoned for multi-family housing before approving already zoned land to be re-zoned to multi-family housing are there are there already options available for multi-family housing yes plenty has a developer considered the lands all the has developer considered lands that's already zoned for multi-family housing traffic has traffic will be diverted into and through seven oaks increasing the traffic which impacts the safety of kids and the community the willingness to put our children in overcrowded schools for financial gain is unacceptable the developer admits it puts our schools at 101 percent capacity without coming we must not turn a blind eye to this ongoing capacity issue with schools this will make our entire area an undesirable place to live our county commissioner's main purpose is to protect the residents i urge you to vote yes for the moratorium thank you i will we're going to get to number 20 and then we're going to break all right um next email is ernie beckwith address is nine three two two sorrel vine drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four uh to whom it may concern please read and read into public record vote yes for the moratorium wesley chapel does not need more overcrowding by rezoning commercial properties to multi-family housing aka apartments when there is plenty of land already zoned for multi-family housing in the area please stop rezoning without looking at valid data require the currently zoned multi-family land to be developed for rezoning other land our county commissioner's main purpose is to protect residents i urge you to vote yes for the moratorium thank you the next email is from andrea mars marcellus my name is andrea marcellus and i live at 27125 winged elm drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four and emailed emailing today to have my voice heard regarding the upcoming temporary moratorium vote and i want my email to be read into the record i implore the board to vote in favor of a temporary moratorium that the pdd can study the proposed moratorium boundary and determine how many existing multi-family dwelling units lie within the boundary and how many existing parcels are already zoned for multi-family dwellings this will allow more informed decisions to be made regarding rezoning process

or similar use to multi-family use it makes no sense to continue to rezone commercial properties to multi-family if there are already an adequate amount of multi-family parcels available this can only be determined by voting yes for a temporary moratorium and studying the proposed moratorium boundary i am not against multi-family units but i am against rezoning commercial parcels to multi-family they were initially zoned commercial for a reason and this continue in this continual rezoning is going to result in the perpetual overcrowding of our schools a further strain on our already congested roadways and further cement paso county's reputation as a bedroom community we need to maintain our proposed commercial parcels so that they are available to businesses that want to make pasco their home i thank you for your time and it is my hope that the board vote yes for the temporary moratorium regards next email is from karen rogers address one one two three ben's brook drive wesley chapel florida three three five four three please vote yes on moratorium haven't spread into the record next email is from cynthia kinnaman address is 1974 white willow drive wesley chapel florida three five four three two minute may concern please read into the records that i support a moratorium on any further apartments construction in pasco county our roads emergency services and schools will suffer with further development next email is from barbara foss this email is to be read into the record we are writing to support mike moore's initiative for a moratorium on multi-family housing to enable the commissioners time to better plan for the development of paso county's future we live in a highly congested area between state road 54 state road 56 and brisby downs and are concerned about additional congestion of traffic the safety of our neighborhoods and the well-being of our community many apartments rental properties and townhomes exist in our area or are already planned for development thank you to mike moore for understanding the problem in this area and thank you for asking for an additional time to reevaluate the impact of multi-family housing on our area all right you ready listen please the next email is from kenneth sierra his address is 26908 winged elm drive wesley chapel florida 33544 to whom it may concern please note that i would like to have this email read into the record i fully support the board's decision to place a temporary moratorium ordinance for activities that would increase the

number of multi-family tenants in the defined region stated in the memorandum i also want the board to understand the reasons for my support of this ordinance throughout my life i have lived in rental units and apartment housing in various regions throughout the world and can appreciate and understand the need for such housing in any residential area i am i also support and appreciate the rental units and apartments in our own community however i'm concerned with the safety of our citizens due to the potential impact of traffic congestion overcrowding in our schools and the general risk to a community that comes with a drastic increase in population density in a concentrated area also wanted to add that many of the citizens in the county surrounding pasco such as pinellas and hillsborough have labeled pasco as a bedroom community where people live here but have to work elsewhere i believe that this perception is a reality in that we have a sufficient number of mtu's and feel that the moratorium would allow us to take a step back study the traffic safely and the educational impact on our schools so that we can make an informed decision as to how to move forward i want to thank the board for raising this moratorium and let you know that you have my full support as a concerned citizen respectfully yours kenneth sierra the next email is from gary pike his address is 4432 harbor point drive port richie florida 34668 please read these words into record referencing agenda item number 45. as port richie property owners for nearly four years we have been regularly driving across pasco county from east hillsboro and have witnessed the accelerated sprawl of multi-unit developments now thickly spread throughout many areas of this county the heavy development is concerning as it is very reminiscent of the over saturation of apartments and multi-family complexes in the greater brandon and riverview areas of hillsborough county a temporary moratorium as this proposal is is not elitist the ask is temporary and specific this proposal is simply good leadership that will help ensure all citizens a better community for quality of life not just four walls and a roof which all too often is overlooked as the push for building for all becomes all-consuming thank you commission for your sincere consideration in this temporary proposal that will eventually have long-term negative effect

if common sense leadership is not applied sincerely gary l pike the next email is from mary joel's the address is 27609 kirkwood circle wesley chapel florida 33544 dear pasco county commissioners i fully support the moratorium to be read into record p 45 an ordinance by the board of county commissioners establishing a temporary moratorium 180 days on the submission and acceptance of applications for conditional uses rezonings and comprehensive plan amendments proposing to increase multi-family entitlements within the moratorium area providing for authority legislative finding a fact definitions moratorium area temporary moratorium imposed duration of temporary moratorium and severability file number pdd 21-0316 commission district 2. marie crema does the next item is from ann laylee her address is 27449 missed flower drive wesley chapel florida 33544 i am submitting this email to declare my support of the multi-family housing moratorium particularly with regard to apartments being considered on bruce b downs boulevard and ancient oaks boulevard i would like this to be read into record thank you ann m laylee the next email is from duffy hawes the address is 5243 spectacular bid drive wesley chapel 33544 dear sirs i'm a 10-year resident of pasco county residing at 5243 spectacular bid drive wesley chapel 33544 in the lexington oaks subdivision although i support growth in our area and am pleased with the overall progression from rural to suburban living i think it's necessary to pause and take stock from time to time in order to ensure that we do not overbuild any single type of enterprise it is for this reason that i'm writing in support of agenda item pdd 21-0316 the proposed moratorium on issuance of new multi-family housing permits please ensure my comments are added to and become part of the public record for this agenda item duffy hawes the next email is from kristin tucker her address is 3228 sunwatch drive wesley chapel 33544 please read this email comment into record for the meeting and topic described below my husband and i are strongly in support of the temporary moratorium ordinance a multi-family housing unit that is being voted on during the referenced meeting please consider the plea of the current residents and help to keep our community sound date slash topic may 4th

2021 slash pdd 21-0316 temporary moratorium ordinance thank you again for your cooperation or your consideration the next email is from courtney lithian her address is 516-5106 winding brook trail wesley chapel florida 33544 name courtney blithian address 5106 winding brook trail wesley chapel florida 33544 agenda item number or agenda item title pdd21-0316 an ordinance by the board of county commissioners establishing a temporary moratorium 180 days on the submission and acceptance of applications for conditional uses rezonings and comprehensive plan amendments proposing to increase multi-family entitlements within the moratorium area providing for authority legislative findings of fact definitions moratorium area temporary moratorium imposed duration of temporary moratorium and severability please vote yes on the moratorium it makes no sense to continue to rezone commercial and similar property to multi-family units when there's already sufficient property zone for mfus and the only way to know if this is a fact is to stop and take account of the current residency of pasco county the defined region please read this into the record the next email is from hua jac he the address is two seven four two zero silver thatch drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four dear pasco county dear pasco board of county commissioners i am a resident of pasco county i support the proposed temporary moratorium ordinance scheduled for a vote on may 4th on the may 4th agenda pasco county is growing rapidly which i am proud of but there comes with negative side effects such as schools become overcrowded and traffic congestion problem is getting worse and our streets become less safe school rezoning a couple years back that four students moving out from zone school wireless high slash john long middle school left a lot of residents in my community seven oaks bittered and lingering feelings of unfairness please vote in favor of the moratorium i would like my comments to be read into record sincerely hua jack he the next email is from david and donna mazurski the address is 4079 windcrest drive wesley chapel florida 33544 i would like to have this email letter read out loud at the pasco county board of county commissioners meeting on may 4th 2021 dear pasco county board of county

commissioners our names are david and debbie mazurski and we reside at 4079 wind crest drive wesley chapel florida 33544 we are writing to express our support for and asking you to vote yes on continuing the moratorium currently in place on applications to change the zoning or usage of land to add even more multi-family housing permits within the moratorium area we moved to pasco county in 2014 and have seen the growth in east pasco over the past seven years firsthand the 54-56 corridor currently has an existing multi-family complexes and new ones being built to meet the needs of the anticipated growth for this type of housing from what we see and read in the data there doesn't appear to be sufficient data that would point to changing existing zoning from commercial to multi-family housing as an urgent need at this time we as voters who elect commissioners to consider represent the view of those of us who live in this area of pasco county would like this moratorium to be extended until there is sufficient occupancy in the current multi-family units and more data on growth needs we would like to see more emphasis on expanding infrastructure schools and safer roads before changing existing zoning to accommodate developers interests in expanding multi-family housing in the 54 56 corridor in east pasco thank you for your consideration donna and david mazurski the next email is from william and mary hughes the address is 27454 missed flower drive wesley chapel florida 33544 dear commissioners i just want you to know that my husband and i support the 180-day 180 temporary moratorium to allow for research on the number of apartment complexes being proposed in the wesley chapel area and the rezoning of current commercially zoned parcels being rezoned to allow for apartments we do not want the parcel adjacent to sam's club to be rezoned we live in seven oaks and feel it would put undue stress on our roads schools and amenities it is the perfect place for a commercial enterprise we would like this correspondence to be read into the record at your meeting sincerely mary hughes and william hughes the next one is from alfred and shirley clark i cannot read their address but it's in wesley chapel florida three three five four four seven seven seven six please read the following into record we herewith support the 180-day moratorium on the construction of multi-family units mfu in pasco county alfred thomas clark and shirley s clark the next email is from philip 10 the address is 28617

did you know that in 1997 and later the road at the north end of bruce b downs was a dirt road now it is a three-lane highway heading east and three heading west please think before it is too late think before we over build this beautif beautiful area thank you the next email is from le grand jones the address is 27442 missed flower drive wesley chapel florida 33544 dear pasco county commissioners it is my understanding that the pasco county board of county commissioners is currently seeking to establish a moratorium on the submission and acceptance of applications for multi-family dwelling units entitlements during the time of the 180-day temporary moratorium the planning and development department will among other actions research the following to determine the potential for oversaturation of multi-family dwelling units within the moratorium area the current quantity of multi-family dwelling unit entitlements the current acreage of land zoned for multi-family dwelling unit uses including that acreage having the potential for multi-family dwelling units upon approval of a conditional use the potential number of multi-family dwelling units available through existing land use equivalent equivalency matrices please be advised that i support the subject moratorium i request that the fact that i support the moratorium be read into the record i thank you kind regards and that's legrand jones resident of seven oaks neighborhood in pasco county thank you miss donnelly i'm gonna i have the last ten to read this one is from ileana laura address two seven three seven two seven three two seven fordham drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four paso county commissioners meeting may 4th 2021 agenda item public hearing p45 comment board members please vote yes and approve the moratorium next email is from antonio gonzalez uh let's see his address is uh 27327 fordham drive wesley chapel florida 33544 paso county commission meeting may 4th 2021 agenda item public hearing p 45 comment board members please vote yes and approve the moratorium next email is from brandon kelly i'm a res and i am emailing regarding ordinance pdd 21-0316 which is put which is to put a moratorium on multi-family housing units in the area as a resident of the area at 29320 pirelli place i support the moratorium and would like it read into the record as i have concerns about the following effects the additional of the addition of more multi-family units could have on the immediate area traffic patterns on bruce b downs one of

the areas proposed for multi-family housing units are between chauncey road and state road 50 ford on bruce b downs there are no traffic lights between these two this has led to it being a high speed straight uh straight section of road for several businesses and roads on the western side of this road this means that if you want to head north they have they have no choice but to right turn and go down to the traffic light at chauncey road to make a u-turn in order to head north by placing a large number of residents in this area it will only exacerbate the problem two schools at capacity our schools in the area are already at capacity and there are still community building built communities building new homes as it is multi-family units will overload the local schools the school system cannot currently keep up with the rate of growth in the area and that it will just uh and that will just grow growth from fam single-family homes brandon kelly next email is from rob campbell address is 4300 rustic pine place wesley chapel florida three three five four four for the agenda item and ordinance by the paso county board of county commissioners diversity contemporary moratorium 180 days on the submission and acceptance of applications for conditional use rezonings and comprehensive plan amendments proposing to increase multi-family entitlements within the moratorium area providing for authority legislative findings of facts definitions moratorium area temporary moratorium imposed duration of temporary moratorium and severability i support a moratorium on conditional use and rezoning let's plan for the future of pasco that's ultimately the point of zoning right planning to present to prevent new development from interfering with existing uses and to preserve the character of a community it is worth the time and effort to pause and take a moratorium from rezoning pasco is worth it in wesley chapel specifically our schools are overcrowded currently do we know the projected occupancy numbers for 2024 and beyond are we appropriately reconsidering the number every time we rezone land to housing the traffic is bottlenecked in major congestion points that have not appropriately improved to match the inflow of housing units this is dangerous frustrating and increases insurance rates the decreases this decreases the quality of life in wesley chapel no one wants to sit in traffic commercial zone land is job creating land jobs are the backbone of florida communities and these jobs occur in

commercially zoned land residential zone land is necessarily is necessary also in having a balance of these creates a strong vibrant community there must be a balance between the two and the and that balance is skewed every time we re-zone a property away from the commercial to housing let's plan for the future of pasco thank you for your time and sincere appreciate and we sincerely appreciate the time commissioners take to listen to us next email is from sandra kin of nim kinnaman dear commissioners address is 27319 mr flower drive wesley chapel florida three three five four four dear commissioners please read uh please read this into the record i sandra kinnaman fully support a 180-day temporary moratorium on activities that would increase multi-family units mfus within the moratorium area such an action will allow the planning and development department pdpd the necessary time and ability to accurately research and calculate the current quality of uh quantity of multi-family dwelling units and entitlements the current acreage of land zone for multi-family dwelling units uses including that acreage having the potential for multi-family dwelling units upon approval of conditional use and the potential number of multi-family dwelling units available through existing land use equivalency matrices within the moratorium area i am not again i am not not against mfu's however it makes no sense not to continue to rezone commercial or similar properly to allow additional mfus when there are already sufficient properly zoned for this type of development oversaturating the area with these types of dwellings to a near urban density is not in the best interest for current or future residents doing so will make wesley chapel a less desirable area for families and individuals due to overcrowded schools insufficient infrastructure and greater safety concerns thank you for your time and consideration next email is from michael and amber foss address is 1 588 glen grove loop wesley chapel florida 33543 dear paso county commissioners it is my understanding that the paso county board of county commissioners is currently seeking to establish a moratorium on the submission and acceptance of applications for multi-family dwelling units entitlements during the time of the 180-day temporary moratorium the planning and development department will among other actions research the following to determine the potential for oversaturation of multi-family

dwelling units within the moratorium area the current quantity of multi-family dwelling unit entitlements the current acreage of land zone for multi-family dwelling units uses including the acreage having the potential for multi-family dwelling units upon approval of a conditional use the potential number of multi-family dwellings units available through existing land use equivalency matrices we are writing to support mike moore's initiatives for moratorium on multi-family housing to enable the commissioners time to better plan for the development of pasco county's future we live in a highly congested area on state road 56 many apartments rental properties and townhomes exist in our area are already planned for development thank you to mike moore for understanding the problem in this area and thank you for asking for additional time to reevaluate the impact of multi-family housing in our area this email is to be read into the record next email is from mark mcbride this address um is was not provided please read into the record dear commissioners i will be brief i support the moratorium of apartments proposed by commissioner moore given the recent actions altering use this is a responsible decision sincerely next email is from alan liu luo address is 26650 winged elm drive wesley chapel florida 33544 to whom it may concern please vote yes for the moratorium agenda item number 45 board should stop making decisions that have a direct and long-term impact on pasco residents before enough data is gathered and analyzed to justify rezoning a property the current a property is zoned the way it is for a reason and should be there a significant and there should be a significant need justification passed by review to warrant the change coming before the board please read this into the record thank you paul bates is the next email address is uh 27348 missed flower drive wesley chapel florida i'm a resident of paso county um can it be read into the record that i support a 180 day moratorium to construct on construction of multi-family units i'm amazed at the amount of development in the wesley chapel area and i'm concerned that adequate infrastructure is in place to handle all the existing and proposed projects additionally i am concerned that proposed road improvements at the i-75 and sr-54 along with proposed mfu construction could have a negative impact on the amount of traffic passing through the seven oaks community thank you next email is from lauren o'donnell address is 4219 wildstar circle wesley

chapel florida three three five four four we are in favor of the moratorium for apartments the traffic is becoming overwhelming and the infrastructure isn't supporting the growth the schools where the growth is occurring are already at a capacity that are no longer opening for school choice option and cypress creek will be added to that list as soon as the developments surrounding the area that are currently underway are completed i've included a photo of typical traffic along state road 54 and i-75 and brisby downs it takes multiple light changes to get through the area and back roads or work arounds aren't options since there are few ways to get across i-75 it's i as ideal as this location seems to be the roads are turning into a real nightmare this is without the apartment just to prove to be built in the area we urge you to move forward with the moratorium thank you um last email is from c g dana please read this into the record my name is c gene data and i dana and i reside at 29330 lane wesley chapel florida i am writing to ask you to put a moratorium on the building of new apartments and multi-family dwellings the current infrastructure needs to catch up before we can build more let everything already approved and in the pipeline finish and then revisit new applications last the more you build and take away the greens the open green spaces and conservation land the less people want to move here want to move here too people choose this area partially because of the spaciousness thank you for your time regards mr chair that's all the emails i have on this item okay thank you nothing else all right mr moore thank you mr chairman thank you to the clerk's office wow you're going to need some laws i know there's collapse in the audience you're going to need some laws in jersey after this but you'll probably be happy when we start having people in inside again right excited which will be coming up soon and thank you thank you to the my fellow commissioners for um allowing this to be brought forward today um you know i feel today is a very important day and something's been talked about for not only a number of weeks number of months but a number of years and we do need to analyze and look very closely at the impacts multi-family can have in that area when it comes to economic development when it comes to public safety as the sheriff and thank you to the sheriff for writing a letter as well traffic schools you know infrastructure like i mentioned before these all have to be considered can take into consideration but this gives us the

time to do it so now we have an opportunity to sit back let the team do their job and really really dig in and see what impact these are going to continue to have because we can't just think about today we have to think about five years from now we think about 10 years from now we think about 20 years from now the impact is continuing will have on our area i don't need to be a dead horse again talked about this for a number of years with that i'll make a motion for approval second this roll call or not it is okay my roll call vote i have motion in a second mr two commissioners aye motion passes 5-0 all right thank you commissioners thank you thank you to each and every one of you thank you to staff for bringing this forward all right uh we'll move on to public hearing items on the consent agenda i need to hear the procedures by the county attorney be happy to mr chairman there are two rezoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners if staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff for planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in florida is mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for the board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code okay thanks sir do we need to swear people in i guess i don't have anyone since both items are on consent let's see whether we got people to be sworn in all right

uh item p 46 uh proof thank you sorry i try to be kind then i forget item p46 was published in the tampa bay times on april 7 2021 good afternoon denise hernandez planning and development item p46 is ut210256 a resolution by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida designating that area commonly referred to as zephyr place as a streetlight service area for streetlight for street lighting improvements and to levy assessments against the property benefited by street lighting improvements in accordance with the pasco county code of ordinances chapter 94 article 2 sections 94-46 through 94-56 and the recommendation is approval on this item uh do we have anyone to speak against this item no one uh signed up on webex and i do not have any emails on this item okay is anyone at the kiosk there is no one at the kiosk all right thank you pleasure the board or excuse me remain on consent p47 item p47 was published in the tampa bay times april 18th 2021 p47 is pdd2103113 this is a development order amendment for beacon woods east development of regional impact number 203 hudson pasco ltd an amendment to the development order to allow a land use equivalency matrix conversion from commercial to assisted living facility on parcel c2a and we're asking you that you approve the development order amendment subject to the attachment on p47 okay anyone sign up on webex no one registered on webex and i have no emails on this item okay is there one of the kiosks to speak against this item there's no one at the kiosk all right thank you with that pleasure of the board we'll approve the consent agenda second okay you got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye all right i'll oppose like that motion pass 5-0 thank you do you have anything else mr balls you have anything else you want to have today no sir i'm good good commissioners we're all quiet you're mike i didn't say this in my um fine before and i think we'll have an update at a upcoming meeting um i'd like to have sean foster here and ralph to talk about the um budget and the things that transparent has of course we want to wait a little bit we're going to wait until after he signs our vetoes everything to include the budget so it may be a little while right but i do want to um thank uh senator simpson and representative sprouse speaker sprouse and um

senator hooper and representative mariano and uh my friend ben all britain incoming senate president for their help in um at least they you know and ralph and and sean for um helping get the lyndrick project fully funded 3.2 so i'm very excited about that and amp skills um fully funded so now we hope it stays but i think pasco did very well and i'm grateful to our legislators so thank you very much mr chairman yeah yes sir you know and commissioner truck i'm glad to bring it up because it's a good point to actually talk about what is on the table right now but we don't want to take a chance i don't think i'm waiting until to see if he vetoes or not i think we need to go take a better stance i think we should invite the governor down let him see metropolitan ministries let him see lyndrick let him see him skills invite him down to what the great things we're trying to do in this county to help so i think we should actually take a better stance rather than waiting to see if he signs it or not it's not a bad idea so maybe we can put we put a plan together to make that happen when i was in tallahassee i did go um i think i told you guys i did go visit with deo because the am skills project will be in the deo budget so i want to make sure they knew what it was um and uh met with the governor's office um stephanie is chief staff whose friend of friend and um so i'm trying to make sure things stick but i think that's a great idea we can try let's give it a shot okay um mr chamber just one other thing you know in the consent agenda we took we were going to change public comment which we had public comment change a little bit today we could have probably saved a lot of time um do you want to talk about the change they're going to be upcoming with respect to the 18th board meeting yes well we just passed this morning right what you approved today will allow limited numbers of the public into both boardrooms to include public comment at the at the podium uh both in newport richie and here if we reach capacity then obviously in newport ritu will overflow into the lobby here we would overflow into the east pacific government center where we have the kiosk set up okay and i appreciate the board is still accepting webex comments emails to be entered into the record emails to be right into the record and then public comments either in person or via kiosk okay well thank you for bringing that forward for the board today yeah personally the only actual difference what we've been doing so yeah that's good but thank you okay all right

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