12.08.2020 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Hybrid Virtual Meeting (Afternoon Session)

well i don't think oh yeah the board was the last time the board acted as a collection it's a different it was just like no one second let me pull wait a minute uh remember what you remember well that was a protest otherwise we could bring it to you tomorrow you know you are the first one in on thursdays what are we actually gonna hear that after after we do public right yeah do all your public hearings and then then you're going to do that then we do that and then we'll do old business we've got a lot to do yet today um is that i know you're smiling over all right we got everybody y'all ready uh good afternoon everyone i would like to call back to order the pasco county board of county commissioner meeting of december 8 2 2020. i would like to remind everyone present to please silence all the electronic devices and mute your microphones public hearing is time now for proceed with public hearing uh starting with item p10 ordinances i believe you have to read something for audiences well these numbers change yeah p110 excuse me okay if you would um just to read publication for item p110 was published in the tampa bay times on october 21st 2020. thank you great uh good afternoon um it's ernie monaco for playing development at first i'd like to submit a next party form are we going to make a move yeah i need a motion motion for to receive and file yep i need a motion receiving file commissioner fitzpatrick motioned commissioner mariano did the second for the record just make sure district 2 commissioner moore aye district 3 commissioner starkey all right district 4 commissioner fitzpatrick aye district 5 commissioner mariano district one chairman oakley hi okay great this is the first hearing of an ordinance proposed ordinance for the village of pasina hills i will read the ordinance into the record an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners amending the pasco county land development code section 602 j ben harold villages of pasadena hills stewardship district it's revisions to text table and exhibit 602-c and 602-602-c and 602-d to chapter 602 jb and herald villages of passing the hills stewardship district including utility master plan and utility development fees and addition of 2020 voph master utility plan

and as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer severability inclusion into the landing code and an effective date great back in may 5th the commissioners voted in the first phase approved the first phase and what i want to do is give you a little quick summary just refresh your memory back and you can see phase one and phase two phase two predominantly concerns the utility issue can you hear me okay i'm sorry i'll hold this up a little more so you can see in phase one um high design was the consultant for the property owners group and they updated the financial plan and they managed to basically uh save the phase when the fees reduced so that for example the transportation surcharges uh in phase one basically became 259 dollars and this is per single family so you can see that they shaved off the surcharge of 5208 and then if you go down the list you can see that notice that water reclaimed water and wastewater were not in phase one they got carried into phase two so the important part that we're going to talk about today are actually the surcharges because these are additional new fees that everyone in vo page who's developing property or needs to pay if they're going to be entitled okay next phase two of the view of the 2020 voph update study uh there's the financial plan editions which will have a resolution in january 26th but they actually come in conjunction because they affect each other and there are some tables and utility surcharge tables related to that and but we're going to focus on this one is london stewardship ordinance editions and you have a utility surcharge table that's new mobility fee tables had to be revised the wastewater development fees and the watermelon fees are new and the property owners group the pog also fees had to be revised not really fees there what they've what they've done to pay for this study that they'll get credits for later next okay quick summary of the financial plan uh just to refresh your memory the financial plan works only 80 percent of villages of pasadena hills gets developed so there's a 20 cushion which is good the base utility impact fees generated by vo page will continue to be spent by the the pasco county utilities department this was really important it was significant right mike and you can comment on that so we made sure that they were not touched they have the right to spend to receive those funds and spend them anywhere the

county has needs for utilities that's very very vital and we this works with that no credits can be used against those base utility fees pcu will continue use its base fees to provide the treatment plan and other system-wide improvements necessary to provide utility capacity for voph but they can decide where they want to put it no 100 funds needed for the transmission mains are raised by new additional fees and those are called the surcharges so they created a system of surcharges now they're all developed private delivers paid they want to develop in vo ph and get those entitlements and these are the only things that are credited okay so the new fees are added and they are giving credits for those developers that build those utility lines in place main transmission lines private developers must carry the costs for the trunk lines and they await repayment to the use of their own fee credits for their project or assignment or use of those credits by other future projects and they what they do is they register that into this new new entity called the fee credit registry the voph utility budget estimates and the utility surcharge amount is subject to periodic review by the county the actual build out construction costs and system requirements they will require regular updates and adjustments i mean that's necessary you know inflation happens costs change things change the plans always have to be regularly updated so surcharges may increase in the in the future particularly costs go up uh next so what are we doing the tax these are tax revisions to the stewardship ordinance the real main purpose was to add of course the utility surcharges and the credit and explain the credit system but also there was also consistency that needed to take place so we have additional definitions credits for surcharges are in place utilities department's ability to use the base fees county-wide and information about the fee registry and that's all in your agenda memos and we go to the next one there are no changes proposed for existing zoning future land uses and the number of entitlements residential density and commercial intensity of the entitlements it's very important next and we today uh we have pat gassway of height design who can go into more detail it's great to see mike here in case you've got questions for him i don't know if pat is wants to speak on this subject is he in the webex see if he wants to speak um thanks for i appreciate that this is pat gasway with height design representing the property owners group

um i think ernie's uh summary is uh is pretty concise um that the matters that we included here primarily for utility fee surcharges will be able to facilitate private individuals or private land developers to invest in the infrastructure for utilities in that area given the limited amount of utility infrastructure in place this is is consistent with the with the plan that we've had um since the outset for uh for this new update to make sure that you know the the pasadena hills regulatory framework was uh was market friendly uh and ready to uh to to be robustly used by the uh by the folks that are in the area um the the various items on the agenda today are uh are covered in uh in what appears to be the uh the slide show that that we pulled up um when it when it comes to questions from the board in particular uh happy to to answer anybody's questions um but but ernie summary for the most part is uh is is appropriate for the uh stewardship district um and covers uh in in addition the the primary changes in the financial plan i think ernie if there's um if there's a an additional agenda item with regard to the comprehensive plan transmittal any questions associated with that i guess can be pursued at that time yes that's correct and let's get back to my slide and i can quickly go through the recommended action well i have it here i could read it i haven't had any gender memo okay well i'll tell you i'll tell you what your recommended action is no action required as this is the first of two public hearings required by the board of county commissioners the second hearing the adoption hearing will be held on january 26th 2021 at 1 30 pm newport richie this is a public hearing so the action you need to take though is to conduct the public hearing yeah well if we have anyone that's wanting to speak again against this adam please come forward no this is this is an ordinance adoption hearing so it's anybody who wants to speak yeah anybody that wants to speak is there anyone at the kiosk there's no one at the kiosk for this item yeah nobody in the chaos and there's no one not webex for this item and there's nothing it requires no vote at this time nope okay this is the first of two two required public hearings on an on a land development code or ordinance adoption may i ask a question mr chairman yes so

i had a meeting with mr gassaway and then discussions with keith and ernie on some changes that might be occurring is this happening here or is this just the utilities it's coming it's p9 yeah it's a later item on the web through right comp plan amendment change it's coming okay okay then i'm fine thank you all right i actually think this is a good way to um help get utilities in an area where there are none and um and i hope we can discuss the county's policy in the future maybe at a workshop or some some place because um i would like to discuss how we use um how we charge developers with with the utility impact fees and and how we use it for um i think we use it for capacity wrap and i'd i'd like to discuss that because for example ridge road has no utilities on it and um so all the the churches they're all on septic um the college has its utilities coming through the back from a neighborhood phsc and um so the first developer in in in our old ways i think would have to pay for all the utilities to come down ridge to do to do some improvements there and then what the other developers get to just um tag in and not pay for any of the cost of that that service so maybe there's um a better way to do it i also don't like the way we build a road and if it has no infrastructure on it and then development comes later then they have to tear up the road i just think we can plan better thank you okay so there's no action today on on p110 so now we'll go to p111 would you like me to read the proof yep item p111 was published in the tampa bay times on october 28 2020. erica winlen's planning development i would first like to start off by asking the uh board to receive and file a letter that was sent to me yesterday okay all right thanks jack i got a motion to say my roll call vote district two commissioner moore aye district three commissioner starkey aye district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano aye district one and commissioner chairman oprah i pass unanimously okay i'd like to begin by reading the ordinance title into record an ordinance amending the pasco county comprehensive plan providing for a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use maps map 2-15 and sheets 0-7 changing from ec employment center in a.g agricultural to il industrial light and calm commercial on approximately 90.09 acres of real property

located on the northwest corner of i-75 and blanton road interchanges extending northerly along i-75 to the hernando county line providing for a repealer several severability and an expected date again proposes a large scale conference of plan amendment from ec employment center in a.g agricultural on september 3rd the pc acting as the lpa recommended approval to the bcc on october 6th the bcc authorized transmittal to the department of economic opportunity and other reviewing agencies the subject property is approximately 90 acres and located on the northeast corner of i-75 and blanton road interchange extending northerly along i-75 to the hernandez county line may can go to the next slide i'm actually going to go to the next slide and then i can go back to this one thank you the subject property is currently undeveloped certainly youth ranch and hernando county liner located to the north agricultural and wetlands and single-family residential to the south and single-family residential and the church is located to the east and i-75 to the west in the last bcc hearing commissioner starkey wanted to see the conceptual and plan trailed and how it relates to the subject property here you can see the the green outline is going to be the conceptual plan trail and you can see like the parcels outlined in red and where it doesn't mean road is where the conceptual trail begins so i wanted you to be able to see a nice outline you may go to the next slide there is aeg agricultural and ct general commercial to the north which is the hernando county side and ac agricultural to the south and west and acar to the east let me go to the next slide and here you can see the proposed future land use and the inset map we can see that the gray to the industrial light and that's fuel blue would be that commercial that hugs blanton road in ie75 and you can go to the next slide and and with that planning and development recommends to the board of county commissioners to find the amendment consistent with the conference of plan and is stopped by roll call vote thank you okay is anyone here to speak to this item there is no one on webex for this item um there is no email for this item and i've been informed that there is no one at the kiosk for item p111 um there is an applicant for this one so we might want to see whether he will hide or like to speak to this adam are they on webex or my guess is i have heard down for bottom p17 this is barbara will hike can you hear me yes my commissioner barbara will hike 6327 grand boulevard newport florida three

four six five two staff has done a wonderful job with their presentation this is our third public hearing on this item and we would ask you to support staff's recommendation of approval i do have a team here in case you have any questions we'll kind of hear in webex somewhere um i have a motion second chairman who has the second i did okay commissioner starkey has a second okay district one commissioner moore two i'm sorry district two sorry having to redo it on the fly commissioner two commissioner moore commissioner two yeah district t you'll be harnessed to change it is don't change anymore right district 2 commissioner moore was an eye district 3 commissioner starkey aye district 4 commissioner fitzpatrick aye district 5 commissioner mariano district 1 chairman oakley aye motion passes unanimously move on to p112 item p112 was published in the tampa bay times on october 21st 2020 good afternoon mr chairman commissioners denise hernandez planning and development today this is the adoption hearing this is land development code amendment 45 so we're asking you to accept public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote i will read the ordinance into record pd210026 is an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners amending the pasco county land development code chapter 300 procedures table 303-5 required public hearings for development approval applications table 304-1 required public notice for development approval applications section 305 neighborhood meeting section 306 neighborhood notice chapter 400 permanent types and applications section 402.3 conditional uses section 402.4 special exception section 402.5 miscellaneous miscellaneous uses creating new section 402.5 d administrative use permits for the sale of alcoholic beverages section 406.15 point i right-of-way use permits bond requirement chapter 500 zoning section 503 ac agricultural district section 500 rmh mobile home district section 517 r4 high density residential district section 522 mpud master plan unit development district section 525 see one neighborhood commercial district section 526 c2 general commercial district section 528 i1 light industrial park district section 529 i2 general industrial park district section 530 supplemental regulations striking and reserving section 530.14 applica applicability of this code to the sale of alcoholic beverages

section 530.15 fraternal lodges social and recreational clubs chapter 700 subdivision and planning standards chapter 900 development standards section section 901.1 transportation corridor station spacing section 901.2 transportation corridor management section 905.2 landscaping and buffering chapter 1000 miscellaneous structure regulations section 1003 gates gates fences and walls chapter 1100 special development standards section 1101 vehicle dealership section 1102 large sale commercial design the standard section 1105 self storage facilities design standards section 1200 non-conformities also appendix a sorry nonconformities appendix a definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer for providing for severability and inclusion into the land development code and an effective date again we're asking that you accept public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote is there one here from the public wish to speak to this item anyone in the kiosk um i do have i do have a question i notice in your language you say alcoholic and intoxicating beverages is that do we have to say intoxicating beverages where is the word because i i may have alcoholic beverage but i don't really get intoxicated it doesn't say it says sale of alcoholic beverages oh no i've i've been reading alcoholic maybe it's in the next one um for sunday purchases but it says alcoholic and intoxicating beverages so okay that's in the next amendment yeah it's in the next one so i'll i'll say that again in a second thank you permission chairman there is no one on the webex for this item there's no emails for this item and i've been told that there is no one at the kiosk for this item okay uh this time i asked for a motion uh i make the motion to accept second got a motion a second all those in favor by roll call vote district 2 commissioner moore district 3 commissioner starkey aye district 4 commissioner fritz patrick aye district 5 commissioner mariano district one chairman oakley aye motion pass thank you okay we're going to um p113 p113 is an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners amending the pasco county court code of ordinances section 6-28 providing for applicability repealer severability inclusion into the code and an effective date

several months ago the board asked that we bring back this ordinance to delete the restrictions on sunday sales of beverages the amendment before you does only that it deletes the onsen on sunday between 11 am and 2 am restrictions and so now sunday would be treated the same way that all other days of the week are treated um i'd ask that you waive introduction and adopt the ordinance amending that section uh by roll call vote so you're eliminating what now 11 a.m to 2 a.m so the restriction you currently had a restriction that did not allow sales on sunday before 11 a.m commissioner stark he brought that to the board and said and said that you wanted to eliminate that that's what this that's what this revision does okay basically it treats alcoholic sales the same way it does on a normal day on every other day yeah so every day of the week it's treated the same is there anyone here from the public to speak you want the kiocks chairman if i could um state the publication for the item oh yes publication yes um item p113 was published in the tampa bay times on november 25th 2020 and to answer your question about um there's no one in the webex for this item there's also no emails for this item and i have been informed that there's no one at the kiosk for this item okay i would just say do we need to say intoxicating that change has not been advertised commissioner you didn't ask we'll leave it in uh move to uh adopt the new language second okay i got a motion and a second we will vote now by roll call vote district two commissioner moore aye district three commissioner starkey aye district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano bye district one chairman oakley aye motion pass we move on to p14 public hearings so yeah mr chairman no nevermind good no you're fine you're fine okay uh publication yes item p14 was published in the tampa bay times on november 4th 2020. good afternoon commissioners denise hernandez planning and development p1414 is pd210081 it's for an agreement for a unified sign plan for mishra and gold properties lp and mishra huntsville llc for the grove at wesley chapel mpud establishment of the crate unified sign plan and this comes to you with a recommendation of approval of the agreement and the accompanying unified sign plan

from both the local planning agency and the planning and development department mr chair are you treating that as a consent item with the rest of them okay so so mr chairman that that is why i had you need we need to do the rezoning procedures if if we're going to if we're starting the consent agenda so there are two rezoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners if staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff for planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given 5 minutes for presentation the opposition will be given 3 minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code the clerk will also need to swear people in all right so it's time to swear anyone that want to speak to this item okay or these items if there's anyone here to speak on these items if they could please raise their right hand do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you god and the answer was i do so with that is there anyone here to speak to p114 speak against p114 um i have no one signed up on the webex no emails for item p114 and also have been informed that there is no one at the kiosk for item p114 then the item will remain on consent adam p 115 item p115 was published in the tampa bay times on november 4th 2020. p115 is pw21-0017 best lake acres pvas number 3312 and it is a board initiated for 901 1133 and the recommendation is approval okay is there anyone here to speak

against adam p 115 yes there are um individuals um on the webex and i believe out in the kiosk okay so given that this is a consent agenda item and there's opposition um i would recommend that it be pulled from consent okay it will be 115 from consent and move move i guess move to a regular item so we take it up after we do we'll take take it up after you finish your consent agenda yes okay all right we'll go on to p116 item p116 was published in the tampa bay times on september 30th 2020. pw210024 palm lake paving assessment number 3406 and it is uh for the board of county commissioners four hundred and thirty six thousand seventy dollars and the recommendation is approval okay is there anyone here to speak against this item i have no one on webex and no emails um for this item you may want to check out mr kiosk mr chairman uh humor me i would prefer if the kiosk itself says that there's nobody out there given that somebody may walk up there may have walked up before the beginning of the meeting you know since the meeting has started that the clerk would not know okay so you have a person out in in the lobby that should be able to say that there's nobody here for this item if that's in fact the case kayla kayla is at the kiosk okay is there anyone at the kiosk there's no one at the kiosk for this item all right thank you all right and that's the end of the regular agenda i mean the consent agenda sorry okay i need to vote for p114 and p116 on the consent item second okay i got a motion a second my roll call vote district two commissioner moore mr chairman if we can have a moment please does this one involve um the streets runnel and those in lakewood villas and lakewood ranches this is uh the bass lake project no this is badly i'm sorry this is okay it appears that what the commissioner is looking at is is an old memo from diana rowley i think this is showing all of the streets that were done as forced assessments that these streets may not all be within this project but but it's an attachment to your memo for this project so you're talking about um palm lake or bass lake we're talk what we're trying to get clarification on is those streets which are shown in the attachment in lakewood ranches are not within this project okay that's a that's a future project that will be coming to the board okay okay all right you can you can proceed thank you okay we're at um we've got a motion and a second

on p114 and p116 uh by roll call vote um i already called district 2 commissioner moore and he was in favor district 3 commissioner starkey yes district 4 commissioner fitzpatrick yes district 5 commissioner mariano hi district 1 chairman oakley aye motion pass now at this time we'll take up when we move from consent is the item p115 yes we have um two people on the webex for p115 we have a christine pizzano and i need to make sure that she um states her name and address for the record and that she is she unmuted she's unmuted yes yes hi could you please state your name and address for the record and also if you have been sworn my name is christine i live in 88 51 fast lake drive newport richie i have not been sworn in all right if you could please raise your right hand do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you god thank you you may proceed before you start do you have your tv or another microphone on in there we're getting a lot of feedback i do not it's just going through the runbacks go ahead well we in our neighborhood had a previous meeting and it was determined that the work that they are going to do on this project is not going to help the major history which is flooding so there really is no point in resurfacing streets if you're not seeing a major problem and honestly the streets around here are in pretty good condition except for one so i don't really understand the need for this okay then the next person that is signed up to speak is michael pizzano is uh mr pizano there michael pizzano so the assumption is that since they have the same last name and live at the same address that they would be sharing the same line not a separate call-in for him is he available okay so he's not logged into webex so if he's not with you then um chairman would you like to move on if he's not available then we'll move on and get someone else signed it okay um i um there's no um email to be right into the record so we might want to check the kiosk does anyone at the kiosk to speak this item you have multiple people at the kiosk so i'm going to bring the first person up hello sir if you could state your name address and that you've been sworn for the record uh robert crawl 9215 bridge road and i have been sworn in thank you sir you may proceed yes i'm representing probably 90

of the people that live in bass lake got blindsided a little bit but i drive these roads every day and i have 45 years of underground utility paving and this what you're wanting to do makes no sense you got one road that i wouldn't even call them potholes and i would also like to see where you cord and it says that you have to put in full base i don't quite understand that those streets were put in properly the first time i'm sure so you they the one street probably needs resurfacing and that's it the base when it fails it puts us under water all the time and at the corner of brookwood and creston water sat for months the road was closed the base is still in very good shape and it's dried out and the road doesn't even need paved there so you're you're spending or trying to spend a lot of money that just is not needed area and it looks like the public works engineering in this letter is not recommending any improvements to the drainage there's very little drainage it's mostly uh uh swales the sheep flows into the swales and if bass lake comes up the water's gonna sit it equalizes so at this point um i appreciate you uh hopefully turning this down it is not needed thank you thank you for comments someone else at the kiosk to speak to this item name and address and if you've been scrolling lynette crawl 9215 ridge road have you been sworn yes okay go ahead okay i'm speaking because uh the way we were actually notified of this uh it was supposed to be coming certified letter i never even signed for my certified letter um i was uh wondering how i got it because that little green sheet was missing so i was told that my carrier signed for me which i've never even heard of but the other thing is a lot of other people said the same thing that they got it certified and they also did not sign for it also there's a lot of people in the neighborhood that never even got a letter so when we started like talking as a neighborhood we found out that um a lot of the the meetings were set up after the fact that the people actually did get their letter so when i talked to um i believe it was rich jenkins he stated that there was not a lot of complaints about what we were trying to what you're trying to do but the reason i feel that is is because the communication was very

poor also i've talked to a lot of people who they just can't afford it this is a working-class neighborhood some of the homes are worth 50 000 and so in order to fix a road that doesn't really need fixed and to charge us taxes there's a lot of upset people my husband and i have county water we brought in the county water ourselves and nobody else in that neighborhood has county water so if you want to spend some money put in the county water and then repave the roads but they're really feeling like they're not getting anything for what you're going to be charging them for thank you thank you for your comments all right name name and address for the record and have you been sworn it's diane bray nine zero 9053 westlock drive in newport richie three four six five four have you been sworn yes i have okay um i i am holding in my hand a petition that was signed by approximately 60 people 99 of the people i spoke with of all the houses i went to everyone was adamantly against this the only reason i didn't get more signatures is those people weren't at home one gentleman said to me that he was for it and that was only because he didn't seem to understand what you were doing he thought you were going to be doing improvements to the storm drainage issue because he has flooding issues so it was just his ignorance that made him not willing to sign the petition in talking to people going door to door to speak with people like i said everyone signed the petition everyone also made an indication to me that their neighbors weren't home right now but that they were adamantly against this project as well as my neighbor has said we are a working-class area we cannot afford to have this done and we do not feel it needs to be done it seems to me it's putting a band-aid on a broken arm which will have a lot of flooding issues in that neighborhood and that is not being looked at they're saying it doesn't need to be fast so at this point no one in the neighborhood is taking an indication that this is something that they want or can afford is that all your comments yes it is all right thank you thank you someone else i guess they're getting somebody name an address for the record and if you've been sworn jessica ramirez 8616 brookwood drive newport to florida 34654 and yes i have been sworn in okay um i'm coming here to speak today on this project um as to oppose to this project um and the questions that the meeting that we had before about the questions it seems like the road being fixed

um there is no real reason for the road being fixed if there was a drainage if drainage was being fixed drainage was being put in maybe there would be a reason for that i feel as a homeowner that if we have another storm a pretty paved road that's not higher that's not doesn't have drainage under it is not going to help me it's not going to help my home it's not going to help me get out of my home anything like that so i was very confused with why the road needs to be replayed stance is pretty good and like i said if we have another storm that comes through it's gonna just cover the road there's no drainage it's been um put in the letter here um at the bottom of the letter that we were sent that drainage will not be worked on um so at that point what are we doing the road for um as my other neighbors said we are working class neighborhood so the price is very much for most of us to bear in that neighborhood it's also a very older neighborhood of pasco county that's been there for a very long time i think that if you guys were willing to give something to the residents by letting the residents tie into county water and we rip up the road and you know fix the roads that way fix some drainage move some drainage then i would be all for it i'd write you a check today but unfortunately that's not happening the only thing happening is we're going to repave the road so i am definitely opposed to this project and i feel that um most of you that are you know new um on the board um should really be worrying about pasco county residents um and not just spending money wherever you know feels fit i think that if you were to come in and fix drainage and maybe give the option to homeowners for county and then repave the road there would be a reason for that but i find no reason for this as of right now that's my comments all right thank you mr chairman quick question yes um one of the residents mentioned there was a petition i guess asked hernandez we don't have a copy of that would somebody maybe want to get that from that petition that signed petition from ralph okay that way we can see it and if we get it we can do a motion to receive a file because we're saying it's out there we haven't gotten a copy of it oh yeah all right thank you sir okay i only get one signing for house there's no one else signed up for this item okay okay thank you on the back of different houses okay that's uh all that we have signed up is anyone else here to speak this item answer you want to uh cover this item

towards the vote and how to capture the support yes sir uh good afternoon enzo call the public works um what i'd like to do is just give a brief overview back in march 28 2017 the board of culture commissioners approved for a double chip seal for the roads impacted in 2015-16 floods and that is the background behind this this is being brought forward as a board initiated project slides please and so you may the commissioner may already know but you may want the new commissioner wasn't here during that process you may want to describe why we okay so what that process is sure um so back in 2015-16 we had some very um heavy rains we had the roads were damaged there was flood damage and the board of county commissioners agreed that they would do a temporary fix basically a chip sealed very very temporary like a band-aid and then the board requested that we bring back these roads this is one of i think about 13 projects and we have done about seven or eight so far so this is number you know is going through the list as to have these projects brought to the board for your approval to get the road brought up to the standards it should be and i am familiar with there being a temporary fix on these roads yes and they were not charged an assessment for those roads so i wasn't sure i did speak to so with a temporary fix there was no assessment but it was the understanding the board told us that with the board funding these temporary fixes we would have to bring it back as a board-initiated project that's why we're here with this project correct i'm familiar that there were a lot of other communities that were impacted so i wasn't sure if the temporary fix is only going to last for so long maybe we can go to another community and then do theirs last it's the boards um i'm bringing forward to board board will tell me tell us what to do mr chairman question yes how many erus total can i just run through the presentation or that covers it yeah take your time i think i'm still waiting i think that petition was coming i saw ralph had in his hand maybe he's making a copy is that what's going on okay um yes 140 40. we don't know households though just erus those are er areas we don't know how many households then all right i guess we would know because we would send the letters to it would be

approximately 140 uh because typically one eru is it okay there's not there's no double lots or anything like that i i can't say i financially there wouldn't have been a vote because this was born no this is boring this year there's no voltage that's true okay so we wouldn't know how many whole okay yeah there's no vote on it yes and are not allowed to vote mr chairman do you mind if we hold for one second to see that we get that um copy of the petition so we can see how many people signed it i think it's on the way yeah thank you sir um so there's no vote on this and what board did that was it before 16 was it previously march of 2017. march 20th 2017. okay this is a board yeah yeah that was a board meeting yes sir but i was just trying to figure out when the commissioners were here and that we were here when we did that remember who was on board i'm sorry i don't remember who is on board at that time yeah if it was in 2017 that we asked for that it'd be basically us and mr williams yeah so i think yeah mr chairman you seconded the motion mr we have people just chairman the number do we have pictures of what the roads look like prior to us temporary fixing it yes um should i go through or just skip through the photographs you can move forward please on the prior to fixing these are from today right these are no no prior to prior to the chip seal prior to the chips chipset the very very last slide is what it looks like today if you continue so you see the reflective cracks are coming up back through the chip seal as i said it was a temporary fix mr chairman yes so um i've been i was on the board when we had the flooding and the roads collapsed and the taxpayers of pasco county i think we got some federal money yes yes and we um selected the worst of the worst to go out and put this temporary fix because we had to do something right away because these roads look like oatmeal and and the garbage trucks the school buses no one could drive on these roads so um we did that with the understanding that we would come back and do board initiated on these chip seal roads and so they may see something that looks good right now maybe it's all not as bad though i'm looking online and i see some really bad spots this is this is going to peel off soon and and what you're going to have

underneath when it rains is going to be really bad so um can you address the um the water on the roads and fold i guess you're on some of these you're doing full depth reclamation yes so um there is the based on the stormwater basin related um drainage which we are not addressing not this entire basin but in terms of road related drainage yes and another thing we're planning to do is full depth reclamation and that is adding um cement into the base and it provides impervious surface so when you have water trying to infiltrate and get into the lime rock because the cement is in there it doesn't uh dissolve it so to speak so there are a number of methods where introducing to minimize the the the or strengthen the existing road base so we've not denied we have not turned down a chip seal board initiated project yet as of yet yes sir and i think it would be a slippery slope if we started doing that because you how many more more of them do you have to bring to us i got about four more yeah so while not maybe politically um favorable to some this is something that that is a responsibility of ours because in a heavy another heavy rain event we are going to have real problems out there so i would move for this to move forward we've we've covered we've taken up 25 the county's paying yes and um what is the interest rate that we'll be charging um it's it was noticed that five percent but as we said in our agenda memo whatever the prevailing interest rate is that is approved by the board at the time it is being billed the lore of the two will be used okay so that is the maximum they could pay but they will probably be paying less probably yeah most i mean well we could we could say they're paying less so and it's over how many years will they be paying it's over a 10-year period okay do they have the option for over 15 if the board well when what happens when we lengthen that is that less money comes into the pvas program and then we can't do more roads so um so it's 10-year standard it used to be five and we've kind of extended it to ten so well five it depends on if it's less than a thousand dollars yeah so it's five there are different thresholds yeah okay mr chandler oh yes mr marijuana jack marietta yes thank you um yeah i'm very familiar with this neighborhood matter of fact uh the krell's i've known them for many many years and mr crowe is in the uh construct business uh mrs crow is in the real estate business so

they're very familiar what's going on uh especially knowing there's a petition out there not to do this this is a lot of money um i know we've got the project we're working on with swiftland uh on the street hidden lake which may help this area quite a bit with the flooding uh these roads are not going to disintegrate i don't think right away uh they've been through some events in the past year that uh has had some water and caused moisture so i think should actually wait until we fix flooding part of this i don't see the urgency to do it and i will tell you other areas of my district but we get paving and we're going to go spend 900 grand on doing and behaving this that may include another project but it could even be one of the other four products that need to get done but i don't think this one needs to be done at the minimum i would continue this at least we uh uh get more input from the citizens especially when there's so many out there that seem to be against it mr truman yes sir i mean i agree with both commissioner starkey and mariano about you know obviously commissioner starkey brought up some good points about the road but mr mariano i mean i i'm reading the petition here so we have an overwhelming majority of the residents that actually live there on the road that are stating that they're they're okay with the road conditions now and i have a concern as well about the drainage that's the main problem out there right that we talk about the flooding every year well unless we are able to fix the flooding issues and fine or some type of resolve for the drainage i can only assume that our roads are not going to last that long out there if we rebuild them now without any drainage improvements so we're doing road related drainage and also with the addition of the cement full-depth reclamation it the base is impervious so you won't have the infiltration of the water melting the lime rock a flooding event won't affect it like with this kind of effect that's correct so you don't feel that that road would ever need to be um demoed at all for any type of possible future drainage improvements that need to happen out there because of the i mean we've all driven it during the storms i cannot say i'm the stoma i mean that's my concern i mean i mean again we i got a we got a petition in hand we got overwhelming majority of the residents really are like nah we're good um just let you know commissioner

there's there's a project with and mr mariano brought it out there's a project in the future with hopefully in the near future not the far future but with hidden lake that'll actually help save these areas from flooding like they have in the past up to saving some like 60 homes or more from flooding and when that project can go forward then it'll help help this area a lot so that's out there it's not there yet but it's out there okay mr chairman yes sir and as well as i'm glad you brought that up and i know you're very familiar with it as well as that project as well we have got the magnolia valley project support richie alcohol starts down there and that water does flow that way as well so these storm water improvements we've got in place uh will help and i don't think if it's if it takes two three four years down the road i think the residents will be fine with it and especially knowing the insurance that we're fixing the drainage which is their biggest priority that they'll be paid waiting for the road to get redone after the fact they'll i think the value what would be much better for them as well so what is the timeline on the drainage project you're talking about the headline i guess i'm asking mike karbala's office any drainage project in the area that would would help these people well didn't they change the drainage from instead of going to north ridge road and west and then back south on ridge road they're going to change under yes they're going to change it so it doesn't go all the way around yes sir branford abdominal public waste director commissioner i'm not aware of any stormwater drainage project you know in that area um but as hensley mentioned there are two things there is a road related drainage improvement where we add a number of pipes uh curb and gutter we are not doing that but then there's road related drainage maintenance which we are doing uh in terms of the swells we are going to make sure that these wheels are clean so i are you doing that project if the road gets paved or are you doing that that as i'm sorry is that part of the road repavement yes so along with the fixing of the roads you would be fixing the drainage and the swales and getting more having more storage on the sides yes it's a program we started three years ago that when we fix roads all roads we look at the road related drainage and we do the maintenance as is needed swells replacement of pipes deteriorated pipes but this particular project new drainage systems like adding pipes

huge pipes new drainage structures is no part of this project because we are we want to we are fixing a road we are not doing a storm water drainage project but then we're going to do the road related drainage maintenance okay so so if i'm hearing you right there is no storm water project that's going to change the hydrology of this area planned in the near future i'm not aware of any project that is related to this particular road mr chairman the chairman mike i want to interject here because i will tell you when we had the meetings we had people who were packed in here mr crow was in the front with a bunch of other people in that one area saying what are you going to do to fix this area i'm going to say and mike maybe you can back me up on this but that hidden company project holds water that otherwise flows through which could protect these people when we look when we look at magnolia valley that water moves down to the south it goes down by uh well it goes down south it goes on around the county building down around through it works its way out there it's another one where it kind of holds water as well so these projects may not be right in tune to it and brantford may not know of both of these how they're interrelated but i will tell you it's part of what we've been working on for many many years and i would say because of the confusion i'm hearing right now about this i don't want anybody in the spot but i think at the minimum we should go have a public meeting on this item not just board initiate this one here bring it before the residents and let's go have a meeting about the stormwater in the area and about the claiming assessment before we go spent nine hundred thousand dollars of hiring money we'll never get back mr chairman yeah can i make a comment okay so the hidden lake project stormwater project like any other stormwater project that we do it's not related to the road you know it's related to taking homes out of the flooding area so i cannot say that that project is going to address flooding on that particular road the main thing that we do in terms of benefit cost ratio is addressing the storm water flooding in homes but not necessarily on roads so i cannot tell you that that project is going to fix flooding on this particular road i think we understand that that part of it yeah it's true yes it just i mean look you know we got something get it we look we do you know we do these board you know

initiated assessments you know at times and a lot of times it's a 50 50 type of deal but i think we're missing the page on this too because i see a number it says 139 and so i think we're missing we don't think she handed one of the pages to us but i think there was one missing but so that means an overwhelming majority of the people that would pay this i mean a large majority are basically stating that they're good right now they don't need to see the road so again you know it's it's us staff did their job there they did a great job and they brought something forward because they were asking fine to go ahead and do that right um but at the same time it doesn't mean we have to approve it by any means and now a large majority of residents are saying they don't want it yep and here's the problem here's the problem we've had is is the fact there's a lot of roads that need improving and every time we go with the pvas uh and and answering them do their work and they they do a great job at what they do when we get out there and vote for these roads most people don't want to vote because most people don't want to pay for their road but yet they still complain about a road and that's where we are on these roads there's there's more than just this road in the county that needs repair and needs fixed but the concerns are is all the flooding in this area i think that tends to hit a spot here with the commissioners that we won't be careful spend that kind of money in it it'd go away in one flood that it might go away so will the chairman okay yes will these roads convert back to where they were before if they don't get repaved yes and rapidly so okay i didn't notice on one of the streets the rose the concrete road actually looked like mud with cars stuck in the roads so i know at the time they may have wanted them fixed and we did a temporary fix but now it's time to actually permanently fix them but again maybe continuing to another community and then coming back it's the board's decision ainslie if you were to um if this were to pass today when would you be getting to this p-bess it would be uh towards the beginning of the next fiscal year that would be at the end of 2021 around this time next next year mr chairman yes sir uh if i could make a recommendation for the resident commissioner who's now just in the position i think it's an opportunity for you to actually get with your residents have a meeting with them have the storm

water crew let them get you fully up to speed of this whole thing and then you can bring it back to us because it is bullet initiated which means the resident commissioner needs to be 100 sure it's the right thing to do for the people is this in um commissioner fitzpatrick's or yours because it's listed here it's in yours it's in mine it's in four yeah but it's listed five here no agenda memo is five and i have one more question i have one more question ainsley some of the people gave their address as ridge road and we're not paving ridge roads so so what are the people on ridge road being assessed if you're at the corner off ridge and bass lake yes but reduce 50 percent okay that'll look okay sorry roughly three years ago we were going forward with the initiated by the the board on this road so what's the pleasure of the board today okay i have a motion can i say something because when i was originally going through the meetings and who showed up the majority at that point was in favor there was 138 homes impacted by the pvas at the public hearing that we had two weeks ago only 14 people showed up and only five to six spoke on the opposition yes yeah i'm not saying why i'm surprised because now i have a list of all these people objecting to it but during the public hearing 14 people showed up and five people spoke i will i will be voting to go ahead and do the pvas because i was here when those roads got chewed up and i know what's coming and when you can't drive on the roads and the garbage and you can't have any garbage pick up and the school buses can't use them um it's not it's not good and so you're doing full depth reclamation water standing on the road it's not going to affect the world and using the concrete mix that's right that's going to help better seal that base so when it does flood next time it it will protect it to a greater degree than what we have there now corkscrew and that'll move us down the road in the meantime we got another that big flood project that hopefully comes sooner than later that that'll help it even further right and the neighborhoods getting some improvement in the swales there should there's they should see some improvement there um i have a friend that lives in there on um uh no i'm not gonna remember the name of the road but it's a you can go on google and see what what the shape the rope the road is wicker wicker um and uh it's falling

apart was that a second to uh mr marion no i am not in favor of i am in favor of staff's recommendations well i'm not seconding into motion with royal palm you will be actually paving the promotion we're kind of in discussion with that a second there was no second so so with the project it's also adding new paved roads to that community because i believe when i drove through it last two weeks ago last week when we drove through there royal palm has is a dirt road completely it's a solid white dirt road so they're um royal palm yes and bass lake drive that's a collector so that is not being assessed so there are rules in there that are classified as collectors that is not part of the assessment that will have to come out of the program maintenance funding they're not being paid so we're paying for those roads yeah what could i mean the motion by yeah has died for no second right okay so mr chairman can i make one more suggestion just see somebody's happy medium here why don't we go ahead and send the postcards out and put this to a vote to the residents which has not been done sorry clear if you do why don't we go ahead and send the cards out put this to a vote the pbass vote to the residence and see what comes back there if it's close we move forward i think you got this list over here that's not the that's it was in favor do you have that last pvas vote for bass lake yes for who returned it and how many were in agreements and how many were not this this is the first time it's being bored initiated there was no preview ever been a vote by the wrestlemania okay so then that was just the publication oh no this is a petition that was done by residents right okay so my suggestion was why don't we just put that to the normal process put it to a vote and see what what it comes back at the issue is that there were other communities that are already forced to have their roads repaved after the temporary fix was done and i think that's the consideration commissioner starkey is getting at because there are other roads that we did a temporary fix unless we turn around and just charge the neighborhood for the temporary fix that we did already then they should pay for the original temporary fix i'm in agreement um i think we made a board policy that we were going to do temporary chip and seal with the understanding that we would do come back with board-initiated p-vases you know um a lot most of the p-basses

fail unless they come back over unless they come back over and over again um but it costs us money to maintain those roads and we have to do the responsible thing i think and and get our roads up to um up to the level they should be when when would the first bill when would a resident see their first bill first bill um we're expected to do the paving on next year so it will be the following year because we go on the tax collector okay so in 2022 is when they would see their first bill more than likely yes end of 2022. chairman okay chairman well i mean or procedure um the board is referring to the petition i need a uh receiving file for the uh list that we've got most of them receiving power i'm going to second that with discussion because commissioner moore had said that there were 139 but um there are 51 names on the on what oh 61 sorry for my bad math two three so i got a okay district two commissioner moore this is district three commissioner starkey aye district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano let's receive a file first marijuana yes okay district one chairman oakley all right so that motion passed okay i i moved to accept board's recommendation staff recommendation yeah staff's recommendation well it really is the board's recommendation staff okay i've got a motion do i hear a second second and i've got a second um there was a prior motion on the floor did that fail it died it died for lack of a second okay thank you all right roll call vote district 2 commissioner moore district 3 commissioner starkey aye district 4 commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano um he's muted we cannot hear him can you hear me now yes yeah okay i'm sorry i was trying to i guess i get my buttons mixed up here but i would like to have a little further discussion before we pull that vote we're in the vote we're in the vote all right i'm gonna say nick okay district one chairman oakley all right motion pass four to one okay with that we go to p17 yes p-17 p17 item p17 was published in the tampa bay times on november 17 117 yes p 1 17. i can't use those triple numbers okay so item p117 was published in the tampa bay times november 1st 2020 and november 8th 2020. we are creatures of habit good afternoon joanne ravita real property and planning the real property

team has received a petition to vacate a portion of a platted canal right-of-way filed by barbara wilheit the petitioner has requested the vacation so that her property seawall will be within the boundaries of her property there were no objections to this petition the team recommends approval okay is anyone here to speak to this adam ms wilheit is on webex i believe yes that is correct thank you and there is no one else um on webex besides miss wilhelm okay i recommend approval okay it's a public hearing so here we go i really want here to speak to this item as well would you like to speak to the science right there okay would you like to check the kiosk can you hear me now can you hear me now oh there you go yes technical technical errors on my side i think staff has laid it out we're just trying to get our property line our sea li a seawall line the same at our home and uh we appreciate staff staff work on this and bring it forward and is there anybody outside yes no one is at the kiosk on this item okay thank you move approval i could get a motion a second my roll call vote district two commissioner moore aye district three commissioner starkey aye district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano bye district one chairman oakley all right motion pass five zero okay move on to p118 regular item item p 118 was published in the tampa bay times on september 23rd 2020. good afternoon commissioners denise hernandez planning and development item is pd 21 cuo1 this is for a conditional use under the name of district school board of pasco county vertex development llc and verizon wireless and it's proposed for 140 foot above ground level close mound wireless communications facility and an mpud at the bexley elementary school complex located in southwest pasco county on the north side of bud bexley parkway approximately 860 feet east of the intersection of ballon tree boulevard and bud bexley parkway this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet from the planning and development department and the planning commission i'm here for any questions that you may have mr chairman jack marion yes uh please let me ask you a question let's conditionally use songs that gives a little bit of authority um down in my area we've got a um a big flagpole was supposed to be put up with a nice great american flag and for the past two

years we've been trying to get it fixed and though they've done some repair work on the pole it's still peeling paint and still no flag up uh how can we be sure that we're going to keep the this in good working condition for the people in the area yeah that's an excellent question on that parcel that you're speaking of off of 5a road that particular property i've uh been in communication i've actually copied you as well on the with the with that item the off the flagpole i will follow up again my last follow-up was very very early november and they responded that they were having some issues uh um obtaining the the the flag um so i will i will follow up on that item this particular uh poll is not a flagpole um so it will not be flying the flag in accordance with the us code so it's a it's a different situation and they are required to uh to to maintain the item uh the other um item that you're explaining that one was uh not done at a public hearing it was done as a tier two can uh not a conditional use so that certainly um we can move forward and revoke the tier two because it's not complying with the conditions of approval thank you for your great work as always thank you this is on the school board property they always do a good job maintaining these in my opinion um i have one down the road from my house and and uh i think about every elementary school in wesley chapel probably has one our high school has one now too the school school board does a good job making sure they're maintained and be honest with you um you know they get paid they lease that property out so it's more revenue for the school board which is less revenue that taxpayers have to pay so it's a win-win in my opinion that's a good it's a good point commissioner as you stated you know cypress creek elementary's got one golf trace elementary's got one san pinel elementary's got one there's one at rushi middle school at sun lake high school that campus so there's a few of them out there commissioner um yeah so i helped uh write this cell tower ordinance back in the day and i also was on the school board when we initiated um this project but i do find see i find cell towers unsightly while useful and needed so i don't like the front location because it's right in the front of the school first thing you're going to see is an unsightly cell phone tower and i think the location by the baseball field is a perfect location

but i wonder why they have to have have a the um fenced in grass egress i mean i understand that during temporary construction maybe a temporary fence would have to be put in but does that have to be a permanent fence to go all the way back there um i will let the applicant answer because you have to have a fence compound area based on the land development code and not that whole and natural services i'm i'm curious about the ingress egress yeah i think the applicant needs to respond to that because it may have to do with safe school design guidelines is the applicant available phone not coming through no i'm here there you go there we see we can't hear you there i can see can you hear me yes we can hear you okay thank you very solid 121 south orange avenue 1500 orlando florida i have been sworn by legal counsel for vertex development he is very much safe schools act and jessica once were back we have to make we have 24 7 access to the towers in case of emergency and we can't be having tower personnel on a school campus that could be mixing with students you have to separate the students from vendors and contract persons that come onto the school property that is the reason why the access fence does that answer your question yes will you be um i'm pretty sure our requirements are that you have to at least landscape buffer the fence anyway right they the front if it's in the front so um that's also part of the safe school design guidelines requirement there's actually an attachment on in your conditions of approval that is from the um the director of construction services for the school board that explains that they are they will not be doing that because of safe school design guidelines it requires to have an open line of sight and i'll allow mary dodie solik to explain that but that's again those other locations that i explained had the same alternative standard approved we do have requests before for several reasons safe school design guidelines and sometimes to be in compliance with department of homeland security as you may have seen with another tower that was brought to the board not not too long ago go ahead i'd actually like to let chris williams feel that question he's with the school because it really is a school district requirement that the facilities not be landscaped chris are you on can we take that question um who's deciding which location it's going to be the school district the school district decide decides on the location and also there was a request to review an alternate

location by the planning commission which is basically if you look at the site comparison which is an attachment to your agenda memo they ask for it to be considered to be moved westerly on the site but that would actually project or encroach onto the baseball field and the general play area for the children okay does anyone else from the public wish to speak to this item anybody at the kiocks wow i just think i just think having at the entrance is really unsightly it's a shame especially uh good afternoon commissioners uh in response to commissioners turkey's um question the cell tower is actually in the back of the school i know it's actually dry but the front of the school is on the north north end of the campus and so this cell tower is behind this wall well then i'm very happy it looks like it's in the front when you see the map that we have mr one of the schools actually ballentre boulevard but it's kind of like a through lot so it looks like it has two frontages mr williams have you been have you been sworn i have all right thank you you could have come on here at the very beginning mr williams just told me so much where it was that's fine okay move approval second got a motion and a second oh my roll call vote district 2 commissioner moore aye district 3 commissioner starkey this is tower road is bexley boulevard tower road bud bexley is also known as tower road so basically this is on tower by our pretty bike trail it's on the orange trail so it really is on the front just because your rope your school is not running i guess i'm going to approve it but it's going to be ugly we're asking you that's a yes district 4 commissioner fitzpatrick that's still okay district five commissioner mariano this is tower right that's the main one district one chairman oakley aye motion passed five dollars one the five zero main road move on to p119 publication over there p119 was published in the temple titans on november 4th 2020. good afternoon ernie monaco planning and development item p119 is a well she's loading i'll just read it there's a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment cpal 20-08 villages of pasadena hills this is actually a transmittal of a proposed large-scale comprehensive amendment to chapter 2 goal future land use 6. it

includes the core reserve the village separator the effect on existing development approvals the text of that and the figures ph 5 through ph 8 to village eye borders you see a map of the pasadena hills area plane boundary the recommended action is this to authorize the transmittal like you had it just put it there so you can see it yeah authorized transmittal of the proposed comprehensive plan amendment amending village separated provisions effect on existing dividend approvals and figures page five six seven and eight village eye borders to the department of economic opportunity deo and other reviewing agencies now this is the key to understand what we're going to do today with the agreed-upon core reserve text revision proposed by their four choices here the voph property owners group pog to reduce the wetlands buffer from 100 feet if their upland habitats exist else to 25 feet the second option is the voph planning and policy committee recommendation they wanted to reduce the wetland buffer to match the existing code landed on section 805.5 so that would be consistent with the rest of the county as you know the voph is a specific area plan that's very unique and they had more strict regulations on how to develop the site and they they wanted to be consistent with the rest of the county and then the parks and natural resources department has responded to the revised text and the fourth option is have a discussion and give us the direction of where we think uh where we where you would like us to go with how we define the buffer of the core reserve i'm going to get into a little bit of that detail here but i want to get a little bit of other information first next so we're going to talk about the core reserve the village separators the effect on development approvals and the villagic border revisions now the village separators the effect on development approvals and the village like border revisions are all in consensus with the property owners group the village of pasadena hills planning and policy committee and the lpa so that's not really there's nothing controversial about that all right it's a controversial strong word there's in consensus basically so i really want to focus today on the core reserve next so there's comprehensive plan policies that support the recommendation to revise the core reserve and you can see policy flu 6.2 uh the natural resource protection 62.1 conservation framework that's in your agenda memos keep going next

now the core reserve overlay is illustrated in the next figures ph-3 the open space system and this is what it says specifically shall be specifically defined by the existence of category one wetlands within these areas in combination with the following parameters and resources to the extent that such resources are adjacent to the fine category one wetlands next so there's the map it's an old map it's going to be updated as part of the changes we're making next so the revisions one through five below are the ones that everyone seems to be much the consensus has been um in that sense yes okay that's between the pog the property owners group the planning policy committee and the lpa agreed to all those together that was a lot of talk and we worked that part next this is the actual changes it's a red line text but it's in blue because there are various parties that have added things but you notice that the pog basically crossed out a few things and they've added that sentence with 100 feet of the category one's limits they removed the contiguous one on your floodplain the category two and three wetlands and this is all rim and this is all regarding the definition of the buffer of the core reserve and then finally they they struck it they wanted a 25 foot buffer so that's where we're coming from that's the starting point next then this is the text from the vo ph planning and policy committee and what they did is they wanted to strike out the number and just say section 805.5 they want to remain like the rest of the county next and this is just for information about what section 805.5 says right now it says the minimum of 25 feet upland but the the feeling was if you make a change in the land development code that would force to have a change later and they didn't want to do that they just want to be consistent and that's why i wanted you to see that next i'm not sure you explained that really okay the planning and policy committee did not want to put a specific number on the text because they felt like in the future if that if that number the 25 foot got changed they would still be stuck with that number and they wanted to have consistency across the county so that's why they said don't put the 25 foot in put the specific reference the code instead you see so later on like five years later if things change they don't have to go back and change again that was that's all that was now at this time it's 25 and 25 but that's what they wanted and then

parks and natural resources gave us responsibilities i think it's very important so keith is here to walk us through that as well and really understand why these things are important the parks in natural resour natural resources recommends that the original comp plan text which is what i showed you originally if you if you looked out and didn't go look at the blue part included which includes the 100-year floodplain category one and two wetlands contiguous the floodplains and uplands and the 50-foot buffer to the core reserve okay they don't want you to touch the original text and because of various reasons which keith will also go into he wanted to add this paragraph naturally vegetated uplands may include disturbed areas that can be restored to a state that can offer equivalent functions as provided by natural wildlife habitats as determined by the county administrator or designee areas that may be excluded from this designation are areas cleared through bonafide agricultural activities and not and as important and not as preparation or development that cannot reasonably be restored to natural wildlife habitats as determined by the county administrator or designee next now i want to make it clear the planning form does have a recommendation uh plain form recommends that the bcc approve the language for the core reserve text proposed by the parks recreation and natural resources what i had just read the planning department supports fully i'm going to make that very clear unfortunately terry peters is not here today he has a funeral but he wanted to make sure that this was very clear in our minds next okay now i'm going to turn this over to keith who is the tactical expertise in this area he can explain why these things are important uh terry will not be here but pat gasway will also is also on webex and he can walk you through the reasons why he felt that it was important for the pog to have these things good afternoon keith wiley parks recreation natural resources so i'm going to try to simplify this hopefully a map will come up in a second that's going to show i think really just paint the picture um but to kind of ernie you did a great job i think breaking the summary down but where we started ultimately was that a special district was was approved with a lot of conversations with the property owners a lot of incentives were exchanged back and forth and the core reserves were one of those things that were were required to make a 20 000

acre special district come to life right at the end of the day so where are we where are we can you man i think you should be able to zoom out to get the full perspective so really what you have is is you have a conservation strategy within a special district and i'm just going to kind of read really kind of paraphrase the the actual objective is the county shall protect the resources that are unique within this area including the ridge lake pasadena kersey lake buddy lake and significant clusters of wetlands and upland habitat around these core regionally significant systems so that was ultimately the goal the goal was also to connect them to all the systems where you could so i want to be clear on all the options that ernie presented with the exception of option three that's that's my team's um recommendation every other option if you look at this map right here everything in green is the core reserves everything in orange little red dots and i think there's some blue is is areas that were identified to be protected as a part of the core reserves any of the other options other than three basically remove all of that open space from the from the from the special district so out of 20 000 acres that's approximately 800 acres really again the the ultimate focus was to protect significant essentially significant environmental features but also to protect that unique flavor of the district i just wanted to be clear because it's a lot of information we've been talking with the applicants for a long time and i wanted to make sure that the board understood that ultimately um any decision to to either reduce uh effectively reduce the the buffer as ernie had described it um from the core reserves ultimately reduces that unique character you it doesn't really give you the ability to achieve the original intent which is which was really to to protect the unique characteristics of of vo ph and from from reading i wasn't a part of that process um but from reading the you know all the information i think ultimately that was the goal um and i think any decision to deviate from that gets away from that what the policy does allow is it allows site plans come in that individual applicants can negotiate modifications to that to that to that map which is fine but the applicants wanted to something a little more concrete now and and i think as ernie had described most of them actually i think want to be treated like the rest of the county so any other option other than three effectively makes that special district pretty much like every other part in the county so that's that's what i wanted to get across i'm

here for any questions but i don't know if the applicant gets a chance to speak okay pat are you there pat or christy yes sir okay we're going to turn it over to you and you can explain the reasoning behind your proposal i'd be happy to thanks so much um again pat gassway with height design representing the property owners group and i have been sworn um i think what we need to do is remember where this process started a couple years ago and that was to try and take the opportunity to make the regulatory framework within the villages of pasadena hills more market friendly and prepare for an economy that that now we're experiencing um the notion was to remove the things that were onerous uh or um particularly harmful to the the continued success if you'll recall back before you know we started this process for phases one and two of these modifications we hadn't issued a building permit that was outside of previously entitled property um i i i think it's important for the board to recognize that the original intent uh was to do things differently um the idea was to try and remove some of the things that were making it difficult for the development community to try to bring this overall plan into fruition so when we looked at the laundry list of things that that should and could be changed this is one of those opportunities where we need to take stock in the differences between the oph and the rest of the county in the rest of the county where we have substantive significant wildlife areas you put them in environmental planning units and we have critical linkages and the preservation of those key eco corridors are something that does have regional significance and consequently should be involved in greater regulation now along with that additional regulation and preservation comes the obligation on the county's perspective to purchase those properties and not uh unfairly uh take the property from the property owner this is not the case in vo these expansions of preservation areas as written have no limit they literally simply occur to the full extent of any vegetation that exists adjacent to the category one well over 100 year floodplains and and unfortunately that creates problematic issues in the implementation uh our firm's been implementing these rules now since 2008 and you literally can find yourself in the circumstance where

category one wetland located on one property first property requires in these rules the preservation of upland habitat in properties that are not even subject to that application that the tendency of these rules is to create more challenge than it does clarity and consequently um it the impact of having rules that don't exist elsewhere in the county the confusion that comes from those rules and the the lack of compensation to those individuals radically affected by this mandated preservation we think is problematic long-term to the county it seems wiser while we're here improving the regulatory framework to a more market friendly condition to adjust these rules to a predictable amount i mean i believe that the the property owner group's proposal of a hundred feet from the edge of the category one wetlands was fairly generous it certainly is predictable and whenever we make rules that are predictable the development industry handles it in stride so the the nature of the fact that these rules become problematic they're ill-defined and are in fact unlimited in the preservation that they require we believe is unfair and we believe it's problematic to the implementation long term and we believe that creates takings of property that without compensation is something that the board should attempt to avoid so i'd like to just add two clarifying points uh through all the negotiations that mr gassaway referenced uh my team did work with um agreeing on fixing the actual map so that way through any type of fema expansions that we wouldn't that the map wouldn't actually get larger so that was adding some predictability to it because there was a concern by by the applicant that the mapped areas would grow larger if any of the fema maps would change and we also listened to them and we increased the allowable uses from a stormwater and floodplain mitigation perspective that we made those allowable uses within these areas giving the planning process a little more creativity and flexibility throughout the planning and i would also remind the board that we again through site plan submittal currently in the policy is written that there are opportunities to go ahead and modify that map those maps depending on the project through that process so i have some questions okay and i'm gonna say this is this is complicated where's david goldstein is david at home he's probably online david are you online

at the appropriate point i'd like to speak for the property owner's group okay well is it me or is it joel it would be i would recommend that you continue with public comment if mr two wants to speak now would be his opportunity okay i will wait mr tooth thank you mr chairman um joel 2 i'm legal counsel as you know for the property owners group for the village of pasadena hills and i've worked through this two-year process with mr gassaway i just want to to briefly on behalf of the property owners group who feel very strongly about this point um if if you recall when we when we started this process the the mutual goal of the county and the property owners group was to attempt to level the playing field within the bounds of reason to try to level the playing field with respect to the rest of the county and as pat pointed out the real problem we have here is that everywhere in pasco county there's a very defined wetland setback of 25 feet from the category one wetland everyone knows that what the property owners group continually ask is why why are we subject to something that is much more stringent than the other competing developments throughout the county uh in areas where you have preservation areas and eco corridors as pat said you do protect those but there is an ordinance that requires the county to acquire or to negotiate to acquire those areas in pasadena hills these property owners are at risk of having literally hundreds of acres of upland developable uplands taken under the guise of preservation with no compensation system whatsoever under the plant and in my view it's a classic land grab i don't think at the end of the day it will be legal if any of these property owners oppose it um mr mark hobby was not available today but he called me he authorized me to represent for him that as far as his property owners in voph he 100 supports the pog proposal that opposes what natural resources is proposing um i think it's also very important that your policy and planning committee they voted unanimously to abide by the county-wide setback requirement which presently is 25 feet so their point is we should be treated exactly the same as other areas of the county your planning commission voted i believe that also was unanimously but they voted uh because of the natural resource objection they did vote to go with a hundred foot setback

rather than 25 feet which provides a lot more protection than anywhere else in the county that itself is is is is going to use a lot more developable upland but we spoke with the property owners group this morning the property owners of group will abide by the planning commission recommendation even though it is more adverse to them than what the policy and planning committee recommended but there is no way that the property owner group is going to go with this natural resource proposal it is going to be a major problem it's not fair and it is completely inappropriate to impose that my final comment and i respect mr wiley's position but his comment is that somehow this natural resource protection is is absolutely critical to maintaining quote the intent or the character of pasadena hills that respectfully is simply not true what makes pasadena hills unique is the village planting concept the concentric circles the the concentration of the density in the center of those villages the different size villages the village separators which were maintaining you are not destroying the integrity of the voph planting system if you go with the property owner group proposal these are two completely separate issues and this issue has nothing to do with planning or the look of eoph it has to do with grabbing land to preserve land in the public interest without compensating individual landowners and treating those in pasadena hills completely different from every other landowner in the county and i respectfully submit that's a problem and that'll become a problem down the road when natural resources tries to take 200 acres of developable uplands from one of these voph property owners and and and it'll be your problem at that point when they filed the takings claim that's the problem so thank you we we urge you to take the planning commission recommendation um and approve that is the property owner group request thank you all right thank you mr wiley thank you chairman i just wanted to add again just as a reminder this is not a new policy that my team is trying to add to the district this is a this is a policy that was a part of the original package one when approved i also i think um and maybe maybe ernie can speak to this there was a tdr concept that was proposed in the in the original uh preservation package for development some people aren't going to know what that is yes ma'am so unfortunately i don't for

every time we bring that up or every time i bring that up as a as a tool or a method for conservation i'm told there's no market for that so i'm not a planner but uh it would be great if that there was a market for that but apparently i think the issue is that the number of units that are given through the approval process far exceed what could physically actually be constructed within the bro the boundary of the project therefore nullifying any effectiveness of a tdr i don't know if i got that right but that's correct so that might make us all pause and think but um anyway so i just wanted just to remind the board this it's not this is not a new policy this is something that we're trying to call to the board's attention that was a part of the original approval and i'm here for any questions okay so i do have some questions okay um and i don't know who they go to and i did meet with pat and you know as a as a as a landowner and that has had land taken i i get the the taking but my unders my understanding was that increased densities were given in lieu of these spaces as part of the deal but now you're saying there's no market value for those densities so now i'm now i'm that's causing me to think because really we're given we're given nothing that's of value so again in reading the whole file in the history of the project what i understand all 20 000 acres there was an exchange of densities from what was originally there there's a again was the whole package i mean the village separators was a part of this okay i would feel more comfortable honestly if someone from if planning spoke to this but i think my team's understanding is there was an exchange an increase of densities for the overall specialty well i need i want to understand that and then and um just for people who weren't here when we were working on this and this was this was a lot of work and very very a very very uniquely planned area which i'm very excited about because driving down roads that are just stripped out all over the county to me it's it's sad that we've developed that way and this has a great opportunity to be something so beautiful and unique and i don't want to chip away at that uniqueness but i want to be fair as well so um so the idea is we're going to have clustered villages with open space around it very similar to a european style development that is so charming and maybe that's what you see in new england yeah let me just comment because again i wasn't here when all this was when those occurred but from talking to

people and understanding the concept of this there were many things not just the core reserve though that makes village passing hills very very unique it was modeled after the um the british style of plant land planting where you have high density in the in the centers and it branches out low density and i know that in particular that the original idea of that was to keep it more of a not a flavor where you had these separate villages they were unique um you had the town center in the beginning it was walkable so all these things all these things combined and just look at the big picture here really gave the oph an award for their design honestly it was very exceptional it's very unique and when built it will be very unique to pasco county so i'm always for creating these unique master plan type communities that are distinct uh there are a lot of things it's not it's not but again and you have to take the big picture here there are a lot of things that make it unique i think the issue that i see the way i interpret all this is the developers are afraid if you don't put a limit then they'll ask for as much as you know they're afraid okay that parks may ask for more than what they want to give okay but that's reality you know they don't want to give anything but really the reality is by putting a limit it causes fairness and predictability i think that pat i'm maybe i'm paraphrasing you but that's why that 100 foot was put in there because you actually wanted to be predictable everybody knew exactly what it was they could get their field surveys and they know exactly what was going to be used for the core reserve am i not right pat that's right ernie i mean fro from our perspective um the idea of having additional buffers around wetlands uh is a very minor part of the hundreds of pages of regulatory framework that creates an interconnected nodal development where we have extraordinary design parameters that do not exist anywhere else in the county and and the idea that uh the avoidance of an unpredictable and unlimited amount of preservation adjacent to a few category one wetlands cannot possibly substantively diminish the extraordinary thing that we're going to create here so the developers want the predictability and by putting that number it helps them but at the same time you have to remember every piece is unique everything is is got special considerations to it so at the same time parks is concerned that there may be

areas that may be past that that are very vital so it's sort of a trade-off that has to happen so am i pretty much summing up as a layman here yes that's that's where the conflict exists and we need you guys to really direct what would you would like to have the text for that core reserve because we've got to like to send a transmittal package out tomorrow will be possible well i think that um if everyone is saying that um the 100 preserves the village concept without but uh you know i guess i'm i i could be okay with the 100. okay is there um anyone at the kiocks to speak to this because i'm not sure i i closed that off or if there was anyone else not you already he's asked somebody if there's public comments there's no one at the kiosk okay thank you mr chairman yes question um ernie or keith how large is the super park again how many acres three hundred acres two hundred and something acres and three hundred even three hundred members yeah yes correct all right great that's gonna be one obviously something that has not been you know done in the in the county before oh except obviously you have starkey and things like that this is i guess district super park a little bit different right huge part um so obviously that's a great benefit that those citizens will have too and then i'm in agreement i think i'm in a i'm in a compromising mood today so i think that 100 foot it would be satisfactory to move forward with it so we talk about the diminishing an area or the um what what our citizens are having to look at we stop approving apartments all the time that can cure that real easy um i saw a laugh there right um so i mean if there's public comments over i'll make the motion to to approve p119 um with the addition of the 100 foot buffer as as put forward by the planning commission that yes as that's the planning commission as well and you know the plan the pog also wanted that recommendation as well so it's what exists right now and what you have in your packet as a as an attachment mr chairman yes sir so this would be transmittal this is not approval oh yeah it's a transmittal but i have to transmit the text to the deo and i needed to know their direction on the text i understand that the commissioner just made a motion to approve the item okay oh yeah okay so we will say to add that 100 foot buffer in the transmittal yeah okay that's direction i guess from this

experience tab d would be location and workload tab e was exceptions to the rfp on neither one of the firms had any exceptions tab f would be compensation and just for note the compensation was the same for both firms so um it would just be basically the first three that you would base your criteria on and i'll get you the score sheets mr chair yes oh good afternoon mr jeremy again good afternoon thank you so much commissioners and commissioner mariano i wish you um quick and speedy recovery as i know you have an upcoming very important blessed event so um good afternoon i am amy mcguire a principal with shoemaker advisors i am joined today um virtually and also in the audience with one of my partners jd white and also the president of shoemaker advisors ron cristaldi sends his regrets that he cannot be here today but is watching us virtually and will be available should you have any any questions um today i wanted to talk about three um in your time that you have given us three focus areas about um which may identify why shoemaker advisors will be a great partner for the county and working with the state legislative executive branches number one shoemaker advisors is a more than a lobbying and advocacy firm we are a full-service public affairs and communications strategic direction company we provide services to some of the regions and the nation's um top companies and the three focus areas i'd like to address briefly would be content communication and commitment and woven within that i will also address the two questions that were asked of us so number one in content in reviewing your previous legislative platforms and watching these meetings and in watching each of you you have been leaders to promote pasco county to its vibrant state that it is today some of the ongoing themes that i've seen throughout the years have been a focus on the environment certainly this county has been the leader in that now we see a more statewide recognition of that i think the second piece would be economic development and workforce third certainly you have always driven to have a safe community and to provide smart growth so the first if i may is just on the environment i think much of your leadership has helped what this open space community has been afforded to its citizens and in that leadership now we have the legislative and the executive branches focusing on that we at shoemaker have an important role on one of our clients as a worldwide

expert the ocean conservancy which is recognized for its water quality and its sea level rise you've seen recently and i think you will see that throughout this next session a focus on water quality which is very important to our county a focus on sea level rise on other issues important such as drainage and wastewater improvements we feel prepared through our relationships with the dep with staff and with leadership both on the local and the state level that we would be prepared to help you in that space and more second is one very near and dear to shoemaker and that is economic development and workforce development don't believe it has ever been more important than today to help those find jobs and that is something that you see shoemaker very engaged in shoemaker advisors is a wholly owned subsidiary of the region's largest law firm shoemaker shoemaker has a leadership role on the pasco edc we also work with our clients in important job creation the governor's apprenticeship program along with workforce development opportunities we see that being a great opportunity for pasco i certainly can recognize from my past careers both at johns hopkins all children's and at coca-cola that pasco has been a great environment for those organizations and for the people we live and serve from those the third of course under content would be that of knowledge expertise you have seen through our proposal that we have an extensive group of people with countless years of experience on the local state and federal levels of government the next is communication and to begin you asked a question um how will your firm be relying on the pasco county staff we believe we are an extension of your staff we believe we are your partner um you have a great team each of you are very knowledgeable about state government and are very well aware of who the leadership is what committees are important we will be that complement to that so i would answer that by saying we believe in consistent ongoing communication and a regular cadence our first meeting with you and with staff to build out or hopefully finish your platform of legislative ideas will be a critical time which we will identify weekly communication daily communication each of you know how quickly things change in tallahassee so often that is all hours of the day and evening which we will be prepared for i would also say that we have created as a communication tool the relationship matrix is what we call

it it is a proprietary document that allows you in real time to watch our activities to understand meeting notes to identify to see and hear what was tracking and what we are looking at for bills so that is a key element that we will certainly be sharing with you all additionally we will work with staff to develop communication tools obviously white papers talk sheets scripts for committee meetings and other tools are critically important so we will work with your team and with each of you to identify and utilize those the third area is commitment by which we find very valuable and very focused and the first is that authentic relationship commitment that we have to our elected officials on the state level certainly the pasco county delegation the bay area delegation and beyond that it is so important to know the committee leaders to know the committee structure and to know the staff the staff is critically important as each of you know and we value our relationships of integrity with each of those individuals i would also like to address the second question that you asked us to which was how would you resolve conflicts of interest and similarly shoemaker advisors was founded to avoid conflicts we have purposely built our firm to focus on select clients in specific spaces to that end i'll give an example of hillsborough county public schools we vowed to them and we've kept that contract being that we would not take any other school district during that representation today i will say to you shoemaker advisors will also commit to you should we be awarded that pasco county will be our only county government before the legislative branch so those are the answers to those two questions finally i would end by saying a little of creativity certainly we are aware this is going to be a unique session and certainly i think it will require all of us to address a unique way of working closely with you and with our elected officials i think you can depend on us to be focused on that you can depend on us to take that time and energy to spend and what it is needed to advocate for your priority areas and mr chair with that i close and i would welcome questions any questions well i won't say hi amy i've done amy for a long time we have known each other very long time um did we get anything on this because i have nothing in my agenda packet on on this so i'm going it's just listed i'm working my way to number r108 but um

i don't know good we submit it if i may um we submitted a extensive proposal in the areas that miss miller identified based on our scope on our approach and in that approach if i may i think we also submitted a short powerpoint that should be found in your deck and in that we broke down what what our approaches which is an access advocacy and advice and that talked about how we would address our access and setting up meetings with you and arranging for um your legislative platform well i am embarrassed to say amy that i have nothing it was sent out at least it was sent out to me by email with with all the documents attached to it i'm looking at my agenda it says attachment but there aren't any attachments it was in the it was in the agenda packet from last meeting not this one so yeah we did not receive it for this meeting we received it for last meeting kimberly miller she actually in my office that went to get the uh scoresheet she sent out email to all chairmen to all the commissioners and it had all the information on november 20th i have had 5 000 emails since november 20th maybe thousand wait wait wait wait wait this is the i see a okay there's one that went over sorry ranking criteria which i see which that was on friday friday okay that's okay there was the update that was given to us that said how the today was gonna go and i was just looking for a background yeah that's what i pack it that's normally you know you get some something i have the to commissioner starkey's point i mean that's what i'm seeing i'm seeing two emails and they talked about how the ranking would go but i'm not seeing it i don't see the decks from the proposals either i just i just forwarded the all of them to the board i realize it's they're not gonna have time to look at it at this point but it came it came to me on december first yeah we just have the criteria that's all i can find in the email mr chairman yes sir how are you doing good um i i've got a i've got a i've got the three hard copies of the first three proposers and then and the copy of the uh request for proposals on page 17 it's the list of criteria abcde uh is that what i should be looking at or is there something else yes those are the documents electronically you're supposed to be looking at what'd you find okay thank you okay um amy why don't you um since we don't

have your background why don't you talk a little bit about your background um just and then we'll have sean do the same thing because we probably don't have anything on shawn either so i'm going to ask you both to talk about your experience um in the lobbying world thank you so much and i apologize i made a wrong assumption i think we all did that you all would have had at least our executive summaries so we um i know that was a lot of paperwork so if i may talk a little bit about myself and then if you'd like to have more direct to questions about the approach certainly i'd be glad to i have been a lobbyist for over 20 years um i had the privilege of working in-house at johns hopkins all children's hospital which we i ran all of the government and community and social impact um as a lobbyist i've had the um privilege of representing um great nonprofits for profits building relationships for the last 20 years in this community and i am proud of the non-profit work i've done i'm proud of the community building that i've done the activities that i've done i believe this is approach about true authentic relationships and i believe that um the term limits have helped us in many ways in that we spend time really getting to know people and their priorities my approach is one of serving and working alongside each of you because you are the experts i just know how to navigate the process um i have been successful in obtaining funding medicaid was one of my biggest issues and opportunities so i consider myself an expert in health care and in medicaid and in many environmental and economic roles the other piece i would add is especially right now and i want to touch if i may on jobs and workforce because um not only is that a priority and again i want to commend you personally because i am very involved with a group that you all have supported and that is metropolitan ministries i volunteer for them and again thank you all for everything you've done i give that as an example of what your commitment is to help create jobs and help get people back to work you've seen that through our legislative welcoming with our senate president and with our speaker of the house they've certainly identified that this is an important role and i would like to be the one to help you all bring jobs back to here um just as i said i was raised in economic development i think this is important my father was part of the seven that brought toyota to kentucky so it's kind of in my blood so i will say

that it is important to me i've watched you all grow of um it's an exciting time to be here in tampa bay and florida and i know we'll come out on the better side of all this i was high level and that was yeah on the spot so i'm sorry yeah and um so i want i just if no one's had the opportunity to see what your background is i want to thank that to be sure i would say also our full team um and jd white and our um president ron cristaldi and many others that you've seen i guess actually you haven't because it's not in front of you um we have ashton hayworth who ashton was the mayor of pensacola who is also an adviser to us and we utilize our advisors for expertise we utilize them for additional partnership across various agencies and we think that is very important the agencies play a critical role in everything that happens at the county level as you all have certainly seen today too pardon me we do have them now in hand oh yeah i'm liking that okay great thank you and welcome i wasn't playing on my phone playing solitaire no definitely not huh when did when did melanie yes so melanie has been an advisor with us for a little over a year we're so pleased to have her expertise and her experience um the also advantage we have of um being part but yet separate of the region's largest law firm is that additional expertise and the additional framework of their knowledge and um amy besides um the hillsborough county school district can you name some of the other companies i would love to um it's very important to our mental health is very important to our firm we represent advanced recovery systems which deal with substance abuse and mental health um we also work with grace point which i know something you all are very familiar with um we work with sykes enterprises i'm sure the um one of the world's largest bpos great opportunities for workforce throughout sykes we also are working closely with orogenix i hope it is a name you have known it is the only florida company working on a covid vaccine and we are working closely with them as they enter their um trials and we're hoping that that is a more community approach that you've seen so covet is another and um i think that's 50 12 or 10 or 12 15. as i mentioned we purposely have kept our firms small to be very focused um when you build out day-to-day communication it's

timely and we like to spend that time directly with staff okay okay any other questions questions i answer any about approach okay super thank you so much thank you very much at this time we'll hear from the second group sunrise consulting okay mr foster's right there good afternoon yes sir i think i have a uh a powerpoint that we had signed you can we'll wait for that to come up uh we did we didn't put everything in this we have a 10 minute time to present to you and i know you haven't had an opportunity to review what was in the rfp but just to give you i know a lot of you already know me i'm very active here in the community in pasco county i've been very fortunate to be here for almost 21 years i used to work for a gentleman as our tax collector now and he was a state senator and after that i worked for congress and villarracas but prior to moving to pasco county i also did work for the state house and was working local government down in manatee and sarasota county so i know i look like i'm 29 years old but i've been doing this for 25 years we were asked to answer a couple of the questions and so we're going to go through that uh in just a second on the next slide it kind of gives you a a little bit of background on us if you'll go to that and the next one so sam had to leave and i do apologize we had another a call with a client at 4 pm so he is stepping out to take that call real quick one of the things that we wanted to show you and i know a lot of times folks are concerned and you know what are some results i worked for for pasco county for almost six years we represented you when i was the managing partner with the the tampa bay office with the sun strategy group one of the largest law i'm sorry lobbying firms in the state of florida and then when i went on my own we uh we worked along with you we originally split the client and then i went along with you solely we have grown quite a bit since that time as a little firm about six or seven clients we have about 25 clients now that are quite diversified throughout the state some of them are our local clients we have some cities that we have even the city of palm bay they're one of the largest cities in the state of florida non-profits state associations and some obviously some top 500 companies around the state so we're very fortunate on that and what i wanted to show you is some of the successes that we had we didn't list them all but one of the things i wanted to bring out to you is one of the questions coming up in the next slide is

what do you do when there's you know if there's a conflict we only represent one other county and that's been hernando county we actually got hernando county about the same year that we were able to start working with pasco county and in those years today starting in 2014 and 15 each of us were able to be one of each of you hernando and pasco were successful and the only time when there was any issues and some of you will remember we had a gentleman named richard corcoran who had some issues with the governor and all of our items were vetoed and so i've been asked before are there conflicts when you work with clients as close as you do like hernando and pasco the conflicts that i have generally seen have been unfortunate when it happens with leadership there was one time when we had several projects go to the governor representative mongolia when he was the chair of the republican party had some issues with the governor that year and he also unfortunately we lost some of those projects when they got to the governor's desk so at that point i just wanted to kind of give you those items in 2014 2015 when we worked together we had many projects and we were very successful the years we were not successful were some things beyond our control if you can go to the the next slide policy success you know i look at this because we usually get the highest questions come from you know where are your successes with appropriations we have been very fortunate when it becomes to the appropriations process to the point where folks have seen us as an appropriations expert and that we were able to get that that happens because you have a deep relationship with two things your delegation and with leadership there will i will say there will be no firm that could come before you today or any other firm that would come before you that has the relationships with the incoming leadership we obviously know wilton simpson it's all an egg farmer that we know personally i am on the phone and work personally with wilton simpson every single week for our clients one he is calling me looking for information that he may see or have heard and asking for feedback and two i am keeping him updated on items even throughout the year number two chris sprouse chris brows was one of the first people i met when i came to pasco county he was one of my closest and oldest friends that i have had uh even to the point of introducing to my wife so when's when people tell you they have close relationships with folks i can guarantee you there's nobody closer the two leadership folks coming

in the next part is the delegation i've known these folks from long before they were ever elected long before they were looking at getting elected those are the type of relationships that you count on when you go up into tallahassee working on these items so the items that we take with us are successes and policy why because we know the issues we've been doing this for years we know the issues that impact counties and we will work extremely closely with the florida associated association of counties you will find out from the staff being there we are there during session and on the phone calls and anytime that they need some access to certain folks in the legislature especially leadership we're there going with them hand in hand we're not one of the lobbyists that are only showing up at the end of session when they're looking for a certain item but they're working along with the process and the next item i want to go to the next item which is kind of explain one of the we had two questions um that came up and one of the questions were what do you do when they're um when you're asking for information back from the client and i know that was one of the proposed and i wanted to submit something real quick that was not in here but i just want to give you an example if i could do we have to have a motion to accept in this kind of format jeff i don't know if he wanted his partner's record okay more questions to accept receive got a motion segregate district two commissioner moore aye district three commissioner starkey district four commissioner fitzpatrick aye district five commissioner mariano district one chairman oakley aye so what what this document is and i just wanted to kind of give you an example it is coming over and discussing the 2020 employer contribution group estimated increases and contributions what does that mean last session we had to deal with an increases from the frs because there is a reduction in what was expected that was going to happen from the um from their investments we were the first law lobbying firm to work for the florida association of counties because this bill came across quickly within 12 days it was proposed as a committee substitute and then went to the floor what we prepared here and we're trying to give you an example of information that we provide our clients this was for a school board client it goes down there and item by item explains to you right off the bat what the issue was last year key points that that are impacting it right now moving

forward for the 20 and 21 session and then how did this happen obviously it gives you some history the reason i bring this up is one we gave this to one client who then forwarded to the florida school board association and then forwarded it to all 67 counties around the state of florida what we were asking in return from our client was what is that impact to you so after we gave you every single item detailed information i need to know what that six percent reduction in impact more that the pasco county or hernando county or school board would have to add to their frs and the reason we don't have that is even if we we do have some information on that but lobbyists are only as good as the data and the facts and information that they give their legislators if i am off by a million am i'm off by a percent they will not value what i bring to the next time so we worked with the county administrator or the cfo at that point to give us an idea what the frs impact would have for pasco county so we can go back to the legislative delegation and leadership to say if this decision is made if this bill is passed or this amendment is gone through this is how it's going to affect pasco county um i know this was an item if we can go on to the next one i apologize um we went over that next one it was one of the questions that came and they asked us to put forward so we'll use the local data and statistics to educate and going back to the legislators so i just wanted to give you an example this is the kind of detailed information that we provide our clients on issues and specifics we're not asking for the analysis on what a bill is an amendment is we really just need the effect and the impact that it has in the county that is the part that goes a long way generally we ask for a letter on something like this we would ask for a letter from the county administrator or from the cfo and directly to the state senator or the state rep that we would be meeting with and deliver that letter we have seen that that type of information and impact uh goes a long way and i'm going to end with this i also would challenge other folks to do what we do to be successful you have to be seen by the legislators and the staff we go by every single week with every single person in our delegation and meet with them and not does it have to be an actual issue or a bill that you're

actually meeting on or talking about but i have found out that that presence has also been an opportunity for us to get information for our clients many times and we have done these what we call touches going by and doing it and following up with them we have gotten information for our clients before an amendment is even filed or a bill that is coming out to give them the heads up and one of the examples i'll be honest with you is this frs the fr issue is coming back the actuaries are not meeting there's going to be another 380 million dollar deficit that's going to need being made up that had an impact on you last year and it will have an impact going forward i just want to say thank you for the opportunity to meet with you and we appreciate the opportunity to represent pasco county also okay thank you any questions john um this is going to be um i think amy touched on it a kind of a crazy year budgeting wise how big is the deficit and what do you think our impacts could be besides the frs i give you well that's why we we follow the revenue estimating conference every quarter and they get the updates so before right when session ended it was about a 5 billion that's been adjusted right now it's about 2.7 billion dollars for this fiscal year there is some good news this has to be some good news in 2020 right october had a good news for us october october had projections for sales tax revenue up 35 million dollars pre-pandemic changes right so after they had adjusted for the decline i'm sorry yeah for post-pandemic so if we would have kept with the same numbers before the pandemic numbers we still had a 35 million dollar increase in sales post pandemic afterwards it was a 315 million dollar increase for it there are two items i always say commissioner starkey that they'll look at probably filling that in and that impacts us greatly and that first one is going to be the online sales tax online sales tax 70 companies of the top 500 in the state of florida do not pay online sales tax it has a 700 million impact for the state of florida and 133 for counties that's pretty big there's already been a bill filed for that and we expect another one happen in the senate number two i would say the seminal compact you know if you're looking at a billion dollars you're looking at about 700 million from online sales tax and the um seminole compact is about 350 million that's going to be about a billion

dollars you're still missing about a billion dollars we have not had to dip into revenues at this time but you will see some cuts to the budget coming up probably anywhere from six to ten percent on what um each department has well um i am all for that online sales tax i think it's not fair to our local businesses that they have to pay it and these other guys don't so um i did mention that to a legislator when i was in at the fac conference last week by the way um and that is one of the facts platforms yes it is one of their top ones yeah uh i have another question for you um okay i don't remember what it is so if someone else has a question i'm gonna try and bring it back up i should have wrote it down any other questions mr moore thank you just a follow-up yes sir to what commissioner starkey and you were going back and forth with this online sales tax are we saying that companies within florida are doing business with florida buyers and still not charging sales tax so what what the closest i can give you inside the state that they're not charging the sales tax so there was two things one uh ebay is a great example all you recently ebay just unpacked it just started because they were doing it on your word that you would collect tax from from something that sold as somebody from florida and and do it so two things were happening one they were not collecting it and two when they weren't collecting and they weren't reporting it on the honor system and that's part of that that's happening here in the state of florida yeah like it's actually it's 69 companies at the top top 500. it's the wayworth or wayward whatever that one they call it the wafer bill that's what they will call the bill because wafer was as familiar as your wafer i've never bought anything off of there but that is one of the major companies that was not paying their sales tax as well i mean i i literally own a a business that does online sales i won't name the business i'm not going to promote my business but i obviously and surely charles sales charge sales tax and i'm a small guy so it's pretty wild that these large companies aren't following the rules right how do they get away well no we don't have a rule that we have to collect i guess okay it's an honorary system they were supposed to be collecting it and reporting it only 70 of the top 500 and that's a big that's an easy fix in my opinion sure well sean there's there's no doubt you have a um good relationship with our delegation because um i see you're always fishing with the sprawls

family yes yeah all right now we uh rank so did we just write on here yeah you just write one or two um one being the first pick choice oh okay mr mariano um did you get my email with your scoresheet i've got this here already um and i just texted dan my numbers okay thank you okay thank you so you want to pick these up oh she was looking for the other numbers okay so the results of the ranking is um sean foster dba sunrise consulting has five and shoemaker advisors of florida llc has 10. um so the number one ranking firm would well it's the lowest score it's like golf the lowest score it's the lowest score win so but i don't even understand those numbers numbers what are you talking about because you got five you have five of you that um scored them at night five times five times one so yeah and then the you got your five yeah so you add up the ranking scores the one and two so uh shoemaker got five twos which would be ten and then uh sunrise consulting yeah i thought you had one i thought we were supposed to put ten or five when you said that that doesn't make sense so your um top ranking firm would be sunrise consulting um and you would make a motion uh to go with your top ranking firm or if you wanted to resolice it so moved um but we also if we could add something to that motion if we could delegate dan biles to um sign the agreement the agreement um designate that to him so we don't have to wait yeah i have them prep i had prepared for either firm so i'll give it to the firm today as well and then when they get back are you guys going to delegate that to kennedy administrator to sign that we don't want to wait until the next commission meeting because session or committee weeks are going to start soon so check out the motion jack ariana i'm under discussion um i just wanted to say that schumacher is a really good firm it's tough to beat the local guy but um if we didn't have him i think he would have done really well and uh and i look forward with uh working with you guys on many things and um yeah so i just wanted to uh say that about schumacher because it's a it's a very good firm okay now we need um or we got a motion in a second yes you do

okay roll call vote yes chairman i've questioned about the results um are those going to be kept for the record they should be part of the record yes thank you what you have there district 2 commissioner moore aye district 3 commissioner starkey aye district 4 commissioner fitzpatrick aye district 5 commissioner mariano aye district 1 chairman oakley aye motion pass 5-0 thank you okay now how did they get those points what did she do so she took she just multiplied i believe the is this the last i don't know i believe 109 109 so the next two items are just presentations they're not necessarily you know no there's no vote it's assistance academy graduation there's a video for you from part of that and then there's two good souls kind of a recognition for that and you know it's getting kind of but those are the next two items last two items before your miscellaneous business all right commissioners rene brown chief of staff i'm introducing the fall 2020 citizens academy virtual graduation on behalf of johanna rodriguez who cannot be here today despite the challenges this year we were able to offer the full citizens academy program so we're very pleased about that we thank our participants and all of our speakers for their commitment to the program and their flexibility this year we have a short video to highlight this 10th session and graduating class of citizens academy and we thank you for your ongoing support of this program manager for inter-governmental affairs in addition to our hard-working county staff and elect unfortunately it's very low i can't make this okay he looks like he's having issues too so i know uh brian is still here you'll talk about two good souls we could either come back or we'll send you the video link it it's actually very well done okay it's on youtube we can get it to you um but that was we can't do a virtual graduation or a graduation ceremony because of the virtual environment um yes sir today we're using analog also the i think we're actually advertising for the positions for the spring session right now so that's the other thing so there are we are going to run a spring session on citizens academy so with that i'll turn over to kathy and bryan sure all right kathy pearson assistant county ministry of public services we're going to end with some holiday cheer right uh our two good souls uh really is have made such a huge difference and it's

going to put a lot of holiday cheer to hundreds of hundreds of children i can't believe that we're in our fifth year we just completed our fifth year in october and for five years we have collected over 9314 pairs of shoes and thirty thousand five hundred and ten socks um brian hoban our community service director tracy razer our program administrator can come up and show you a quick video hopefully we'll get that video to work but they're the heart that makes this happen with along with the hundreds of our team throughout pasco county that helps us put this on every year and it was a big challenge this year with covid but this team made it work so with that brian hello good afternoon commissioners brian hoban community services and uh before i start with the presentation i was just going to ask permission to deliver this book that contains handwritten letters from the students who wrote thank you cards to us for the direct donations that they've received this year okay we're not keeping it we don't need a motion so we're just passing it thanks i'm sorry that we didn't get to go have our big thing at the school this year that's pretty exciting that's fun and i love seeing the decorated yeah and you know i know he's pulling up the presentation now but that was that was one of the things that i wanted to bring up you know kathy had mentioned this is the fifth year that we've done this and and i would say arguably um one of the most challenging and difficult um but also uh one of the years that we saw the greatest need for it and the greatest need to come together not only as the entire bocc always does but also our partner agencies we had a partnership this year with dunkin donuts that advertise and collect shoes and of course the constitutional offices that always participate in this um you know active giving every year so i wanted to get up here and acknowledge everybody for doing that you know kathy had mentioned the numbers i mean i have those this year we collected 1 746 pairs of shoes and 5 73 pairs of socks in a year that was financially difficult for um everybody and we just wanted to make sure that we did our part to show the community um you know especially those students in need this time of year that we're still here um as a large group the campaign this year took a little bit of a different different format it wasn't competition

excuse me competition based it was more so a gathering of the community to make sure that we could show that you know we're here and we want to support you know the students in need so give the kids the right pair of shoes and they can conquer the world and that's exactly what we want to do in pasco county we want them to have all the opportunities that they could have and sometimes believe it or not something as basic as their shoes can interfere with their academics and their social lives i see that sometimes where they're kind of trying to be more invisible so to speak so they're not drawing any attention to them the more low self-esteem and they also see some students that are acting out in a way to draw attention away from their shoes and it's more more families more kids than anyone could really imagine i like our number one goal is to make these kids resilient giving these kids an opportunity um giving these families an opportunity to maybe spend their money on something else and let us provide the shoes and the socks oh but listen when we when we heard about two good souls uh it was like an answer to prayer well two good souls is a campaign to provide students in paso county with shoes and socks this is the fifth year we've participated in this great great endeavor and each year thousands of shoes and socks are donated to these students here in pasco county when we see a need in the community the county is going to step up to have shoes held together with tape you know that's just not cool so we're so glad we can help good morning everybody what an exciting day here at the wendell crin school we are doing our collection for the two good souls event we have collected for shoes 1746 shoes thank you and for socks 5 73 pairs of socks this year with covid we really debated do we do this or do we or do we not do this and it was determined that by golly this is a year that families need this more than ever so we continued a little bit different this year we had dunkin donuts join us so it was a huge deal for us to have dunkin donuts join us we want to say thank you and the amazing team that we have including our constitutional officers so this has been a challenge but we pulled it off this year you know we were able to partner with the firefighter charities at pasco to collect all the funds directly from the firefighters themselves and then they and their group went out

and actually bought all the shoes so and the socks that went into the campaign so employees like i say do a great job and the campaign is a great campaign and the outpouring of goodwill from our businesses and from our citizens giving these shoes to these kids so i think it's just a great thing for pasco county by doing something simple as organizing an event to come up with socks and shoes to take that distraction away and sets just one child up for success well then it's worth it you know it means a lot to me to see all those groups pull together to fill what we saw was an unmet need four five six years ago when it started right and to now see it growing to to to where it is today just uh really you know fills your heart with pride makes you feel good about the team and what we're doing here well pascal county's got a great history of being per capita the most generous county in on in the usa i think our employees just emulate that and carry that forward to provide that feeling to a student just thank you and you see it in their smiles you see it in like they have an extra pep in their step and they're just like really happy we could not have done what we've done for past couple of years without two good souls i don't think you could say it any better than that um so you know just in closing i just want to you know specifically come up here um not only share that story and those statistics with with everybody but also you know give personal thanks first and foremost i want to thank the board for their continued support you know five years in a row we were able to do this five years in a row we're able to make a really big difference to the children in our community i also want to thank county administrator biles the assistant county administrator of public services kathy pearson and all the assistant county administrators as all their branches partake in this act of giving every year as well as the branch team leads of course our constitutional offices that continue to donate and make a huge difference as well the school board um they're a great partner in allowing us to use their facilities to partner with us for this particular event our media communications team um and our community donor um dunkin donuts that i previously mentioned and i also want to give specific thanks to tracy razer um you know i mentioned that this is such a challenging year to partake in this with social distancing um with with the communication with doing everything virtually

and she did a phenomenal job of just knocking out of the park and and taking every challenge head on so i just want to give her an opportunity to come up and say thank you as well just want to thank our commissioners our leadership for recognizing the need for this and everyone just stepping up it's been a hard year and we still did it and we give back a lot to the community and the video shows how much we care about our community and that's that's really what i hope the video showed this this county cares about our kids cares about our people and i'm proud to be part of that so thank you very much thank you great job thank you great job guys did you guys meet your goal i mean or did you really have a goal let's do it as much as and they've already been distributed i take it all the shoes now they have that they were able to do it oh that day wow okay yeah there really wasn't a goal this year um again just because the campaign changed we wanted a collaborative effort um but you know i think we far exceeded many expectations um just with the financial challenges again over 1500 pairs of shoes and a ton of socks and again that shows the need out there in the community and for the school-aged children for them to be gone within 24 to 48 hours with those counselors handing those shoes and socks out we know that our work is far from done so thank you i would like to say thank you i am working with children i understand the need and how many children go without so thank you very much thank you yeah great thank you but at this time uh we move on to our miscellaneous business and commissioner starkey yeah i have um derek here who's gonna uh derek and i've been working on a little project and i have some things here that i will talk about next time which one includes the ombudsman um but i'll skip that for next time you might have seen in a paper with t barta that we have been having presentations by some very interesting folks including those with with hyperloop the fix guide tramways the air taxis and then uh which is actually about to get started in orlando they'll they'll be a taxi that will be um driverless pilotless with a company called lillium in orlando and they plan to fly here to tampa so we're excited about that um a tampa bay water we have a very interesting meeting coming up where we are discussing whether we're keeping our executive director

matt jordan or not i want to thank everyone who participated in the holiday lakes uh clean up my staff and i we were out there and it's awesome when you see those truck those car car cars full of uh junk and mattresses on their roof and and all that stuff being brought down to be be taken out i don't have the number with me but i know we had a very successful cleanup i also was out there yesterday and saw the hockey rink built in the holiday wreck center so i don't know if that's open yet and keith's gone but it looked awesome um and so now i want to bring up derek who has done a little bit of research on something that i i didn't have time to look at last year but i want to have it as part of one of the things we fixed for this year and uh if you remember when we had a discussion about a development that was coming in the land of lakes that wrapped around this trailer park called bambi court i think it's called i went and drove the area to see what shape of the roads were in and when i drove through bambi court with all the trailers and frankly i think code needs to go through there i noticed the stickers on the windows the decals were from years ago and uh and so we started doing some research and while the tax collector collects the money um there is apparently maybe uh no enforcement going on and so derek's done a little research and derek can you talk about the mobile home registration and registration fees that we're supposed to be collecting that's right good afternoon um so commissioner starkey had me uh you know look into the mobile home decals there's two different decals in the state there's a real property decal which um you only get once if you own the land and own the mobile home you get the sticker one time then you're good until unless you move um the second which is you know a little more the mobile home decals is if you own the mobile home but not the land you're supposed to renew every every year it expires december 31st i reached out to the tax collector they do send out renewal notices um after january 10th then they a fee is charged for being late however if you don't renew that there is no enforcement action um if you decide you do want to be caught up you do have to pay the back back pay and the fees however there's no you know they don't there's no enforcement action code enforcement doesn't deal with that um and i think i believe it would be a sheriff issue but since you know they're not driving

on the road there's they're not actively looking at these renewals and last year i got the numbers there's about 17 169 registrations so out of that was about 9 400 addresses each if you have a double wide you need two stickers so that's just the numbers and this year it's about the same 17 100 to date so it's about 69 off from this year to last year but um there's no there's no record of you know who actually has a mobile home or not so um i think this is something we need to look at i think there's a lot more a lot of mobile homes in the state that aren't paying their their fair share of you know since they don't pay a property tax this is kind of what covers it and so we need to and i hope sally um i don't know where we get more employees but um we we we got to put this back on the radar and do an assessment i did talk to tim coette last night i was at a meeting where he was and he said that um he thought he could help us get some more information um on the mobile homes and work with us to help get this program back going and get that money back into the county because i think we're leaving tens and tens of you know maybe hundreds i don't know lots of money that should have been collected commissioner stark asks you a question or you were there interviewing for this if i'm not correct that's the almost identical to an auto tag so would that that money would be collected by the tax collectors continue to be tax collector's office don't doesn't don't some of those fees actually go to the state a portion of those fees don't part doesn't a portion of auto tags actually yes they go to the state so i guess you need what i'm just saying is maybe you need to break it down and see actually how much money would actually come into the county and look at what the cost is of enforcement and see what your roi is because let's say there's if there's a i don't know what the number is if there's a thousand and this portion goes to the state this portion goes to the tax collector how much money you know what i mean how much money is that what's that dollar amount what would it cost you know and what's your roi if you did some type of you hard another ft or so there's a there's a difference between the real property decal and the mobile home decal and the real property decal is shared with the property appraiser's office the county and the um tax collector right yeah yeah um i don't know if we have it broken out yet for the mobile home decal was that more your target than your real

property yes okay gotcha yeah because you're getting some property tax still so they are helping to contribute to their costs but if it's a you know did i misunderstand what derek said though but the real property is only paid once they pay one time yeah right that's and it's not much that's on that yeah but that's once when they put it on it's likely that that's being collected because it's once when they put it on their co it's the other one that we're nearly one that is yeah yeah so it's the other one that we're not collecting i think that happens in a lot of areas too yeah we just have to you know keep our eyes on it and get those people to do what they're supposed to do i think it's important to know what the right number is also in the county and and that's a way of knowing how many of those we have out there as well um uh i had another question for keith but he's not here i just keep waiting for the restroom and starkey park i've started working on that my first year when i got elected eight years ago uh it's the restroom that's supposed to be built at the intersection of the suncoast trail and the starkey trail and we got a grant um finally but i haven't heard anything since that thank you merry christmas to everybody okay mr fitzpatrick oh well hello a lot's happened in the past couple weeks and um first i'd like to address there's a vacancy in the voph and i need to um i'd like to appoint rob rod lincoln and that that is that is the commissioner my understanding is that's the commissioner's appointment so really it's got to be noted for the record that she's we my recollection is we don't have the do we have the board to confirm that appointment doesn't have to vote right okay that's an appointment on that one yeah okay and merry christmas and i will discuss more in depth next meeting everything going on that's it all right thank you mr mariano thank you mr chairman congratulations congratulations commissioner starkey as well um i just want to thank definitely doing a great job of golf highlands there were two pipe city place they did a great job doing those and uh the staff had to see pines for storm water they did a good job cleaning out some trenches this year and we've got development coming in looks like it's going to do a lot of good work to solve the drainage areas up there so

very excited about that uh commission turkey like you had a great success down the holiday lake country called the states that clean up went really well as well as a matter of fact uh shining little stars we had one little old lady that uh didn't have a uterine shoes had been broken into and we ended up having a uh steve it's kind of like helped spur it but uh sharon and sully sullivan and tom from top mobility donated a scooter for this lady so now she's got a little bit of mobility that you can actually get around the neighborhood now so really excited about that and i will be with you guys next time i uh uh with covet i i have very little symptoms i'm feeling very good uh drinking a lot of water and some vitamin c in sync and i hope to work with dr levine and mike napier on trying to help our citizens get a little more protection as well so merry christmas everybody happy new year mr chairman before commissioner mariana goes away i understand you have an appointment for voph as well mr maggert needs to be reappointed dale margaret uh sorry about that but yes thank you so i'll appoint dale margaret to the boat as well all right good recycle uh mr biles come on just uh give us a short version yes thank you short versions you want to repeat that for the record sure for the record uh our budget team won for the fourth year in a row the gfoa distinguished budget award um so four years running on that that's that's a lot of hard work on that team not just putting the budget together but the book and everything else and so and you should have got a link in the last week to 10 days with the actual online budget book that is the budget book now so okay anything else it no sir we'll send the list to you so you can see everything else all the other good things that are going on okay mr steinstein uh i don't have anything um happy holidays okay and we'll see in the new year oh yeah if i don't see you before i'll see you next year uh madame clerk i do have uh one thing just to update and come full circle on i mentioned operation green light was taking place in november it did it took place on the 18th 19th and 20th with extended hours and i thought that it was very successful this was the um an event to allow drivers drivers that have suspended driver's license maybe they shouldn't be drivers they want to be drivers again they have suspended driver's licenses or individuals that would like to um to enter into payment plans and have fees waived up to 25 of the collection costs to allow them to

get back on the road so we had 265 cases that were um that were part of this event of that um 145 paid in full 120 cases entered into a payment plan and there were almost 80 cases that were pulled from collections to for this part of this event so we find that it was pretty um pretty successful there were 185 drivers licenses that were eligible for reinstatement and they just have to go to the tax collector's office and and get that done so very successful event um we'll hold another one in the spring and i'll have more details on that thank you all right that's it okay um well i would like to congratulate catherine starkey on her former vice chairman and thank all the members for uh supporting us and and the reorganization uh i'll continue to say it this board has always been amazing and miss fitzpatrick's gonna make it just that much better as we go forward and uh we always meet together we discuss things and we may agree to disagree but we end up agreeing at the end i think that's a pretty good board when you do that so and we all we'll work for all the good things that can happen here in pasco county and all things in the service uh to our citizens that's that's some of the main issues we need to work on also um a note from that is uh i appoint uh emmett evans to vop ph board and that's not something to vote that's an appointment and i would like to uh i've got a we've received an email from jim martinez expressing appreciation for ansley caldwell for his dedication and service to their community and an exceptional job with the covenant road east paving assessment and this this goes for all of it all of his neighbors and indebted to this board for uh voting that that in so that assessment that that paving will come about but got to be so grateful because ainsley and branford and hansley and their whole team do a great job out there some of us probably wouldn't want the job they end up doing sometimes but i'm telling you they work through it they describe what's going on and the people finally understand and they're very appreciative of angelina i thank him for all that he does i actually sent him a letter and i think also my cabal also sent him a letter thanking him for all the work he's done so it's just recognition of a part of

our staff and what they do so within saying that that deals with a lot of customer service and i would um i think i've always considered um public service and the fact that we we do one thing in in this job and that's for all of us all our staff and ourselves we're in customer service business and that's our only job it's customer service no matter what your what job you have or what you do but i would like to uh appreciate and see more and more customer service coming about because i'm gonna tell you with with the more customer service that we see then the more that we are gratitude of getting a job well done with all the staff and all their works they've they've come a long way and i can tell you i'll stand behind all of them so i think they've done a great job for all of us and i think they will continue to do a great job for us they love this county just as well as we love this county so with that i'd like to wish everybody happy holidays and a very very merry christmas and a very prosperous new year in case i don't see you and if i do say i'll tell you again so but be safe we still have work to do to finish the year so it's not over but it's our last meeting as a board so i'm so very thankful to be chosen your leader for this year as chairman and uh look forward to working with all my board members and and citizen pastor and all the staff so i appreciate all of you thank you was that mr chairman before you adjourn one housekeeping matter that i didn't think about okay is since the chair normally does appointments are you planning on doing sending are you going to wait until the next my secretary is already sending those out that the normal they've had before and i guess on our next meeting so so if commissioner fitzpatrick will cover commissioner wells's appointments until a new list comes out i guess is what i'm asking in case there is a meeting before your list comes out well basically unless somebody wants to change from what they have and i think most want to keep what they have right and uh commissioner fitzpatrick that's what she's gonna get stuck with is commissioner wells she's gonna get stuck with it except for one okay but she's gonna take over one of mine okay i just wanna make sure she's already asked me if she could uh be on the commission for human trafficking okay i've told her i would transfer that over

to her and i wanted value adjustment board over to me so we're swapping one other than that we keep the same ones okay i just wanted to make sure that those boards that commissioner wells had been going to if they have a meeting they're covered we already had a right in the last that's the only swap we're having in this between and i on on that uh miss starkey you're staying i'll think about it but think about it which one how about today okay that'd be fine but i'll have my secretary reach out to you send you the old list i'll correct mine and and commissioner fitzpatrick's on ours and i think we'll be good on earth so but uh is uh anything else before that we'll take care of that right away it'll be done within this week so as far as i'm concerned appreciate it thank you okay thank you and we have a journey you