05.19.2020 Board of County Commissioners(BCC) Virtual Meeting

[Music] hey can you hear me Mike Mike she might be not conference give me one everyone would like to call it Laura the virtual Pasco County Board of County Commission meeting of May 19th 2020 would like to remind everybody to please mute your microphones unless you are speaking and also your electronic devices you can meet those two please rise for the invocation and the pledge at this time your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and grant that we remember clerk invocation please sorry okay sorry we were muted Oh merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts amen [Music] I was gonna wear short all role district wanted Commissioner Oakley all right District three commissioners Starkey I just stick to our commissioner Wells our district five Commissioner Mariano your microphone is muted once again you can start the roll call over again please and somebody can check the microphone can you hear me now right can you hear me commissioner can you hear us testing somebody please check the microphones because I'm not hearing a thing you hear me try now can you hear us now sir I can hear you but I cannot hear the clerk can you hear me now I can't yes okay great looks like the microphone was fixed okay great we can start out with the ball yes sir District one Commissioner Oakley here just a three commissioners start I am here district 4 commissioner wells here district 5 Commissioner Mariano here district 2 chairman more here thank you so much mr. Snyder will you please go over today's proceeding with the Board of County Commissioners be happy to mr. chairman on March 20th 2020 governor De Santis issued executive order 2069 which has been extended by executive order 21 14 which suspended any Florida statute that requires a quorum to be present in person or requires a local government to meet in a specific public place the order allowed the board to meet virtually eula utilizing communications media technology the detailed a detailed advertisement was run in the Tampa Bay Times indicating the boards in tend to conduct a virtual meeting even with executive order 2112 the governor's safe smart step-by-step order large gatherings of over 10 people are not permitted to congregate in any public space that does not readily allow for appropriate social distancing based on this con based on this the conduct of a regular meeting would certainly not meet the spirit or intent of the order the process has been a stout established the process has been established by the use of technology in a to proceed in a manner that in that in such a in so that the meeting is as in-person as possible

the public has been afforded an opportunity to make public comments either in writing or by use of communications technology that has that has been provided the Board adopted resolution 2118 on April 21st 2020 establishing the procedural rule for virtual meetings such as the one being held today as with any meeting that you take action you are required to take public comments on any proposition pursuant to section 1 286 0.0114 Florida Statutes I'm available for any questions mr. chairman there we go now is the time for public comment citizens are given an opportunity to come on at any item coming before the board during this public comment section the board also takes public comment on is be placed on a future board agenda on earth or other business under their purview dude eeen operations in a safeguard the well-being and safety of all our citizens the staff today's public comment will be handled differently first we will take public comment from callers that have produced are currently on queue after we read into the public record comments documents powerpoints or videos that have been identified by members of the public to be read out loud or played at the meeting not to exceed three minutes for each new forum does not waive the request that when you address the board comments are not directed personally against a commissioner or team member but rather directed at the issues this provides mutual respect between the board members and the public for those participants calling in after stating your name and address for the clerk the timer will be activated and will start a countdown after two minutes one people sound letting you know that only one minute remains after the time is up to will sound indicating the three minutes are up please note that cost is connected after the three minute mark madam Clerk I know we have her to speak so if we could go ahead and start with that great can you hear me I can't thank you great so we had four people pre-register three of the four have called in we will start with mr. Santos Roman mr. Santos please state your name and address for the record and start your comment seven eight one zero pleasure right Luke let's [Music] go ahead and start your comment sir the Board of County Commissioners come on yes sir this is so you can comment on any item pertaining to the agenda well it's my first time calling I'm not sure the procedure is right you can just share any comments that you have with the board at this time okay well thank you for calling I appreciate that yes sir thank you the next caller signed up is mr. Darryl Whitlock mr. Whitlock if you could please state your name and address for the record and start your comment yes my name is Darryl Whitlock I live at one three five one five Veronica Drive and husband okay go ahead I like to dress the board members today about an issue about the new boat lift covers that's being installed up and down our

codes and all around Florida right now last week I happen to talk to two actually three building inspectors there was coming out inspecting my neighbor's lived and the first thing came out of their mouth was that he had no legal cover on his boat it was the same aluminum cover that I actually had a deposit of $1,000 down and the same company to put in my lift and he says it's the illegal it's got to be removed and I talked to him for extensive amount of time about this issue and he said being it's bolted on it alters the structure of the boat net and I told him that my deposit was not refundable and why are they allowing people to do this out there and they see it day after day with these the boat lift covers that's out there and there's probably fifty and a hundred right my neighborhood or right right around us and he said that the Pasco County Attorney has been telling them that they are illegal again I asked them I said how could we do this as a topic we altered it and made a clamping system for it and they did tell me that that would proudly bring it in a gray area that they probably allow them to do but he didn't know what the attorney would be saying about this but I thought this should be brought to the attention of the board members to know what's going on here I mean really them building inspectors to me are there to help protect us his neighbors and homeowners and if this is the illegal what's being done why are they stopping them from doing this and tell them the right way to do it or tell him not to do it because I know all the way up and down the coast these are being installed in different counties I did I did talk to him about that I guess that he did say that would that bought mines gonna be altered this weekend thanks to this week later this weakness will be installing it I did contact the company which is waterway boat lift covers I think throughout of Kona Gorda and they're making it where they could clamp it onto my lift and I'm hoping that this does not create a big problem for me because right now the way things have been going with this drona the coronavirus thing a lot of people have been working so a lot of us to put out anywhere from four to five six seven thousand dollars on these lists for no reason if the county comes in and tells them that very illegal that's a lot of money to come out of our pocket bring nothing the last person who is on the phone is Miss Julia Garr tunic and just to let you know chairman we also have a public comment via email that they asked to be read into the record a timeout real quick you can have either public comment it's a separate person oh it's okay gotcha gotcha okay thank you go ahead miss Bart tunic if you could please state your name and address for the record and start your comment Ms Barch enik hello miss bar tunic ms barge neck yeah hi yes ma'am if you could please state your name and address for the record and start your comment yes my name is Julia parsonage and my

address is is six four or five meadow with drive new coverage Pete Florida three four six five five yes I'm here okay go ahead and search answered your comment okay yes my comment is that I am going to speak in opposition again see a 2000 six eight and calling firstly and comeon opposition three million dollars to be spent spent on the sensing of the Sun Lake Road and this is several reasons first and foremost we are in a pandemic and we are entering into hurricane season and for special large allotment of money madatha Pasco County taxpayers saucers is reprehensible and irresponsible at this time if we are going to build a road which I am against for environmental reasons we need to let the corporate stakeholders paint because they are the ones that are predominantly going to profit over some Lake Road extension of State Route 52 so I'm speaking in opposition of the 820 - 0 0 60 and the allocation of three million four hundred fifty thousand dollars of taxpayers monies that will build another unnecessary Road when there are roads that I need of repair and widening in Pasco County also if we continue the slicing and dicing a Pasco some diamond system we will become another concretize in Ellis County we really do not want to be like - no County because what makes Pasco County unique is that we do have some green spaces left these green spaces are more valuable than gold or diamonds they are extremely valuable for aquifer recharging ecosystems and also for the health and welfare of our citizens as pasture becomes entirely a concretize for the environment like know if people are no longer going to want to reside there and again any constructions from with taxpayers money needs to go into our existing infrastructure and we do not need to continue the slicing and dicing of Costco's ecosystems because we will suffer long-term consequences that are very very detrimental to our community thank you very much thank you ma'am we have one or two emails I think it's two emails now that to the record if I'm not correct yeah so we we received two emails one to be read the other one is just to receive and file okay so we can go ahead and read the one into the record please okay this email is from a mr. Richard Somerville he his address is 1/6 to 0-5 Larsen Lane Hudson Florida three four six six seven and it regards agenda item number c30 dear County Administrator biles please share this comment with the Pasco County Commissioners before the five nineteen twenty County Commission meeting I'm against the county spending money on Sun Lake Boulevard as specified in memorandum number B a 2000 six eight and budget amendment number 2013 the allocated amount is three million four hundred and fifty thousand of ten million this would allow the extension of Sun Lake Boulevard from Ridge Road extension to State Road 50 to I'm against this allocation and against the construction of Sun Lake Boulevard more land needs to be preserved for nature

and wildlife and to prevent species extinction more roads contributes to more automobile traffic and more air pollution and more commuting and more greenhouse gases which contributes to climate change more roads means more development which means more trees destroyed which reduces the number of trees which are important as carbon sink development also reduces the amount of carbon stored in the soil development also uses water and relies on stormwater ponds to recharge the aquifer that uses up more natural land floodplain compensation ponds which are required if building in a floodplain also uses up more natural land for the above reasons I am against the allocation of three point three million four hundred and fifty thousand of ten million for Sun Lake Boulevard instead please allocate this money to purchase lands for preservation which will help wildlife and endangered species to survive reduce traffic and help prevent climate change sincerely Richard Somerville Thank You Man that will do it for public comment now that it was new mr. Champak Mariano the other letter that you got where is that from it was from Diane Coburn ick okay thank you and that would be okay moving on to the consent agenda I have full sheep with the following items listed I'm see 14th one revised c-17 Poland revised c20 pointer of IC 21 full and revised c 36 full and revised c-37 revised C 50 to pull revised I am at C 36 for a distinction commissioners do you have any other items you would like to pull or discuss none remaining consent agenda second okay so let me let's make please do it with your names again yeah just call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley on district three Commissioner Starkie I district 4 commissioner wells or district 5 commissioner Mariano by district to examine more zero thank you and we'll move to C 14 mr. Bailey mr. chairman members doesn't board this is Todd Bailey acting assistant county administrator for Kelvin services this item was pulled for revision to correct missioner district from district 1 to district 2 we request that this item be approved upon such decision thank you move to approve the item with the correction Commissioner start we state your second second commissioner Jack Mariano thank you of a motion by Commissioner Starkey I was second by Commissioner Mariano madam clerk of the roll please District one Commissioner Oakley hi district three commissioners Starkey I District four Commissioner Wells District five Commissioner Mariano district 2 chairman more motion passes five-0 Thank You c---seventeen chief captain yes Thank You mr. chairman members of the board Scott Caston fire chief Pasco Fire Rescue item c-17 included an incorrect attachment number four pertaining to the son biz verification that attachment has since been corrected to reflect the proper document the item this is Commissioner Starkey with the correction second

motion by Commissioner docken second by Commissioner Mariano my lord please call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley our district three Commissioner Starkey I District four Commissioner Wells our district five Commissioner Mariano by district 2 chairman more most pen I motion passes 5-0 thank you c20 good morning commissioners c20 is for the design of the Land O'Lakes detention center we received two signed original agreements from hok that contained editing marks on pages 1 20 and 27 facilities removed those heading editing marks to provide clean pages no other changes were made clean signed agreement has been sent to board records and administration and it's presented here with a recommendation for approval move to approve c20 with items 1 20 and 27 corrected Commissioner Starkey second commission Mariana was more discussion first okay have a motion by Commissioner key a second by Commissioner mario with discussion Commissioner Mariana go ahead sir Thank You mr. chairman I was looking at the details of the agreement that's gonna be about four years of design work the companies from Missouri are we all comfortable with how long it's gonna take because I haven't seen anything as I know we had a lot of local companies I thought we're going to be bidding on it but I'm just wondering why there's only a few companies or why we ended up with one from Missouri back here mr. Breitenbach any answer yeah I'd be happy to answer so we put together a committee that involved Erik Breitenbach myself TJ Boucher our chief project manager a captain and a lieutenant from the sheriff's office to review all of the applications ultimately was decided that hok was the he was the moat qualified design firm they are a leading design firm internationally and also the number one design firm when it comes to detention design in the nation and we were we were very impressed with their with their scope and their understanding of what was necessary to build this jail and the for your commitment is truly because of the the process that we're going through with the construction manager at risk the design thing is on on standby throughout not only the design phase but also the construction administration phase of this process to ensure that everything is built exactly to design good with it let's go I just wish it didn't take four years that's a long time question charlie yeah what does it take four years because you know that's a long time just in design and and we're running behind the 8-ball trying to you know have room for retaining the the the initial design period is estimated to take one the construction administration which is also related to the design work when the contractor actually takes it over as the lead in the project then the design firm takes a secondary role that will take the construction of the facility will take about twenty three years total but the design working is about a year to a year and a half okay that's that's a step process and I

understand that that's good the the overall probably overall project is four years yes sir that right okay I have a motion motion Ricky yes go ahead Jack Mariano I I hope that we're going to be involved through this process as well I mean we talked about mental health facilities locating to the courthouse out in the same area so I hope I'm gonna be involved this whole process what's gonna go out there together because I haven't seen much of it in um I feel like we should have more involvement at least presentations at some point we can certainly ensure that you're involved in our stakeholder briefings and and make sure that you're involved in the visioning sessions absolutely sir and I mean that is a commission not just myself with that so with Commissioner marianas suggestion and I would I would go ahead and direct County Administrator if you would work with I'm and reeling in Eric to maybe do a presentation and a future board meeting on following up with Commissioner Mary your class yes that's sufficient yes sir great this all right thank you all so much I have a motion by Commissioner start yet second by Commissioner Mariano madam clerk please call it roll district one Commissioner Oakley all right district three Commissioner Starkey I District four commissioner Wells District five Commissioner Mariano I District two chairman more hi motion passes 5-0 Thank You mr. Baxter again you're on c21 sir c21 is a agreement for the hotel owner at wire grace on the original agenda included requesting approval of a second amendment to the ground lease and an acknowledgment of notice of leasehold mortgage the second amendment to the ground lease agreement is not required and has been removed from the agenda and now the agenda title reads approval of acknowledgment of notice of mortgage Wiregrass hotel owner LLC Wesley Schwartz Park campus hotel development no funding requirement the memo and attachments entire reflect the correct content but we have been renamed and reloaded with the correct Corrections no changes to the content of the form requirement signature is involved documents have been had title corrections include the cover sheet agenda and attachment one with these modifications the facilities management department consultation with the county attorney's office recommends approval mr. Baxter a question for you this is executed when do we expect them to finally bring Jane Fagan actually this this was quite honestly a month super sir this was actually a a request from mainsail directly to the County Attorney's Office and we're representing it for the county attorney here at the board hitting their their bank snow vus is the one that required this this modification mr. biles do we have an estimate I wouldn't get a break ground fire one I'll have to get you an answer on that I don't know off top of my head if I said something probably wrong but I do believe it's pretty soon and I do

believe we have site plan plans in for review planning I think it's you an update on that great thank you I'll entertain a motion move approval Ron Oakley my Commissioner decade Commissioner Starkey a motion by Commissioner Oakley a second by Commissioner Starkey madam clerk please call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley our district 3 Commissioner Starkey I district 4 commissioner wells district 5 Commissioner Mariano district 2 chairman more motion passes 5-0 thank you c36 Margaret Smith and I was pulling this too but I don't need a we don't need to do this twice so I'll have discussion out the done morning sir Margaret Smith County engineer we pulled this to update the attachment number 10 the the a forum for this project to extend the gas Bell project from Easter from us 21 to Central Park alright thanks so did section it's just you know with the team Margaret and your team I just want to make sure that we stay on text and we stay on the timeline and meet the deadlines in the timeline because obviously this very important road ok the signal 41 is very important to the citizens along that area so I just want to make sure and just want to reiterate timeliness is how totally this is important in this project and I'm gonna make sure that if we stay on schedule or ahead of schedule that's the way comments that is our goal it's not a demotion Ron Oakland moves my star star key seconds a motion by Commissioner Oakley you have a second by Commissioner starkly madam clerk please call the roll district 1 Commissioner Oakley I District three commissioners I district 4 commissioner well district 5 commissioner Mariano I district 2 chairman Warren hiya motion passes 5-0 thank you see 37 Marcus Smith hi Marcus Smith county engineer again we oughta find them this for this agenda item to remove the rest reference to task order and instead of refer to the professional service agreement and with that change we also took it out of both exhibit a and Exhibit B and with that chain with those changes recommend approval thank you Miss Smith any discussion move approval Jack Mariano second Ron Oakland motion by Commissioner Mariana of a second by Commissioner control district 1 Commissioner Oakley our district 3 Commissioner Starkie by district 4 commissioner wells our district 5 commissioner Mariano uh district 2 chairman more I emotion passes by zero thank you so much C 52 mr. Shue made the Martin commissioners madam Clerk this is my Shumate director of Animal Services c52 is a approval for exempt purchases where two pair vets various deaths throughout the county that participated in our spay/neuter program for the remainder in that point 21 let's revise because the original demo had the full budget and fund balance amounts rather than just the amounts that we're actually paying the bets that we're recommending approval with ancient mr. sho-me any

questions move approval Jack Mariano second ron oakley a motion by Commissioner Mariana second by Commissioner Oakley in Balinese for the role district 1 Commissioner Oakley all right district 3 Commissioner Starkey I district 4 commissioner Wells right district 5 Commissioner Mariano by district 2 chairman more hi motion passes 5-0 thank you that does it for the consent we will now move on to our regular agenda we also do have to add in Amman which is a possible controller virus relief PPE reimbursement program and a r2 supporting documentation for r2 on the BCC agenda will go for r1 now and I think I'm going to pass the data to the clerk or the mr. biles yes sir this is a r1 is a request from a clerk's office and I was just going to turn it over to the clerk to discuss it thank you Thank You chairman more and members of the County Commission this r1 is my request to the county on behalf of my office to distribute to the office a portion of the coronavirus relief funds of which the county received as you know over 96 million the US Department of Treasury identified eligible expenses for the use of these funds and some of the eligible expenses I seek this money for is for payroll expenses related to public safety and human services as a result of kovat 19 personal protection equipment and safeguards to provide for a safe work environment in my request I provided the worst case scenario through the end of this calendar year and there are many unknowns so projection was difficult but I am projecting a need for 7.4 million through December 31st 2020 as worst case scenario with 1.9 million to be paid on or before June 1st I have also requested in my letter to have the County Administrator provide the additional funds up to a maximum of 7.4 million if needed and also my office would provide documentation to the county administrator at his request and any funds not used would be returned my letter included in the agenda item had additional information and I am happy to answer any questions or concerns you may have thank you madam clerk any questions at this time for the board any questions by the board any comments move approval I'm Jack Mariano have a motion Ariano second Mike wells have a second by Commissioner Wells madam clerk please call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley hi district three Commissioner Starkie I district 4 commissioner wells district five Commissioner Mariano district 2 chairman Warren hi motion passes 5-0 thank you all thank you moving on to our two is waterfront redevelopment project your store city of Port Richey through water quality of waterways inevitability no point required and attack through that mr. Stein Schneider a our to Kim in our queue can we not attach that to a r2 it was what you voted on separately sir I believe a r2 is just more supplemental

information for for r2 it's not a separate action item okay so we'll just attach obviously r2 to r2 I don't know if you need that in the motion and okay and so we're gonna go ahead my Karbala I think it's your show now and if I'm not correct we still we also have people on the line if you could explain that mr. Kabbalah and just and this to be once that time combs I want to make sure that our back and forth still goes through the chair when it comes to cutting answers for the other people on the line okay certainly commissioner so my karbala assistant county administrator public infrastructure and we do have representatives of the city of Port Richey on the line so once I complete a brief overview presentation I will ask them for any comments and then we will turn it back over to you mr. chair for any questions or discussion amongst the board if that's okay so I'm you can pass it on but again when it comes to the question if there's question-and-answer between the board and them let's make sure this goes through to the chair absolutely sir so the project is is related to the city of Port Ritchie's project that they submitted as a RESTORE Act project several years ago to the RAC the original project proposal was actually broken into three phases which were to address navigation issues access to water as well as water quality they broke that down into three phases the first phase which was pretty much a dredging of commercial channels as well as some redevelopment of their waterfront park and and waterfront areas and their waterfront district excuse me and to include the relocation of a boat ramp from from Nick's park over to the Waterfront Park the subsequent phases phase 2 and phase 3 were primarily surrounding dredging to provide a water quality improvement which was the dredging of a perimeter canta canal around Miller's Bayou followed by a number of I will refer to them as man-made finger canals throughout throughout the port richey area the original estimate for this that was presented to the restore committee was approximately twelve point two million dollars next slide please graphically this is this is what was presented the Purple Line represents the commercial channels in the first phase and the areas shaded on land represent some of the parks and waterfront district improvements the yellow represents the perimeter canal which was phase to the blue lines represent the man-made canals which were to follow in Phase three the history go ahead and next slide Todd the history of the approval once once the RAC prioritized the multi-year implementation plan elements it was brought before the board in fiscal year 15 for for ultimate approval Newport RIT I the city of Port Richey excuse me that a portion of their Phase one project was funded to the level of six hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars which was primarily that the portions were the commercial Canal dredging as well as as well as a boat ramp other projects that were approved

in that multi-year implementation plan included orange lake with city of new port richey Sun West Park and we're later in later years amended to include key Vista as well as some school board projects in fiscal year 18 once the project was further developed it went before the board as a sub-recipient agreement so the city of Port Richey could receive funds from the Treasury to execute the project as we all know in fiscal year twenty the bids came back and some restructuring was was required so in November of last year the agreement was terminated and the board directed staff to maintain the allocation that the restore committee had had set aside for the project to work with the city of Port Richey to resubmit the project and also explore alternative funding avenues as well go ahead to the next slide this more or less illustrates what the revised project looks like and it's not from engineered plans but actually the channel one and 26a actually extend a little further to the south probably you know another may be another another thousand feet or so to the to the South more or less but that's that's an illustration generally of what what the new project entails as well as you'll notice that some of the other elements from Phase one that were not originally included in in the first portion of phase one but still part of phase one some some lighting some improvements within the the waterfront district area next slide so the revised so the revised project does represent a reduction in scope so the boat ramp was removed and some of the dredging was removed however there were other elements that were included in the original phase one project that were added back to sort of make up the difference so with that staff believed that the revised project does meet the eligibility criteria under the RESTORE Act namely the infrastructure projects benefiting the economy it's also important to note that we did have some initial discussions with the Water Management District and while dredging projects from a stormwater perspective weren't necessarily looking favorable for cooperative funding water quality type initiatives very well could and we are currently exploring some options that that could achieve some of the goals of the city's Phase three with with some some canal work there from water quality perspective but we are just in the initial phases of that and we expect probably about a year or so before we start to determine the ultimate feasibility of that with that staff would recommend that the board approve the multi-year of the revised multi-year implementation plan and resubmit to Treasury to continue the the project and with that mr. chair if it's all right I'd like to Rekha recognized if you could recognize some members of the city of Port Richey I believe I don't much sure if they're mayor or vice mayor on the line but I know they wish to address the board so who was on the line from the city of Port Richey mayor

vice mayor good morning its Mayor Scott Tremblay and Vice Mayor William Dittmer here as well okay please go ahead with the presentation thank you all I want to appreciate you for everything that you've done to help us and enthrall your time as you guys know this is a project that's been going on for about six years now from the beginning this was a project that was a matching fund we expended as a city in good faith three hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars to set up where we're at now what we have done at this point is set up a DMM a site for spoils we have the dredging permits in place and we have the canals dredged to get from the main canals over to the DMM a site so we are set up and ready to go for dredging projects is the city that having been said one of the biggest needs that we have in our community in our council has discussed this channel one a six a in in essence that is the main channel that starts where Waterfront Park is where the beginning of our by you is runs throughout our district with all our commercial building and then out to the river and then on the south and that's where Nick's Park boat ramps also meet so there's a great need in our community to have this project complete as it will link by you to the river allowing our boating public and all our private motors to get out of the Bayou into the river it will also allow folks that are putting their business in the next park to get out it also allows commercial boats that we have which are shrimping boats and boats for tourism to go that hasn't been said because of the value of the project we were looking to add to the scope well as we were developing our waterfront overlay district the city is we voted to put it up two hundred thousand dollars for the improvement of the waterfront overlay district and that will come up great funding which will include hopefully some sidewalks road improvements some lighting and some other improvements in the waterfront overlay district also we have a grander view as we are working on the next we're in the boat ramps our next park we have some some money there to improve the boat ramps and will be events in that area as well based on the crux tothis is that the main canal has to be dredged for us to really proceed with the rest of it and so we have for the city okay Thank You mayor um did you say the vice mayor on the line that he had something he wanted to add no he said that it'd be cumulative to what I've already said great back to mr. Cabala before I answer any questions or have any questions from the board staff has no further comment sir that worked back to the board questions for mr. kabbalah or the mayor or vice mayor of Port Richey on this project chairman Moore's Commissioner Wells commissioner well go ahead sir I just want to make sure I'm clear looking at the map and I know the mayor I know mr. Cavallo just brought up that it wasn't gonna come all the way down from what I understand the dredging of channel one's

gonna come all the way down a little past Nick's Park to include cleaning out the sand there by the where you can't get into whiskey Jose and I can tell you like Miss Virginia that is station just to the north of next Park and just north of Hooters at low tide they can't get out to take folks fishing and this to me is about commerce there's shrimp boats I know if it's a negative tide they cannot get out so this is gonna be a good thing but the map that you've shown us Mike doesn't show really it going down along the boats going down in front of Hooters in front of Nick's Park I just want to make and then down to clean out out front of whiskey Joe's I just want to make sure mayor that that is part of this project that it that will be done well the only part that I'm not sure of from engineering plans when you get further south past next part there's a there's a little bit of sand that was pushed up or debris that was pushed up from the casino boat into the channel that is the only thing that I'm not sure is included I think everything else is however the casino boat has where it's at plenty of water to get out so part of our engineering plans were based on need and it looks like the need was was what we have engineered at this point and then the only exception I think to what your statement would be from my understanding would be a little bit of there's like a little sandbar that's been pushed up from the casino boat but that's further south by where the bridges and that's the only part that isn't included however I can't tell you from the original dredge from the 303 and we can get barges with the sand under the bridge and around channel 19 and out so there's plenty of water for us to get barges in and out I think that that should be sufficient in terms of need wise where we're at well okay and I just think about you know you got the loads putting the marina and down there next to catch is I mean which is gonna be a great thing for the city in the county and again I you know I've been very clear you know we are a team on this we're not separate same with the Knicks ramp boat ramp as far as I'm concerned you know we will work together to do improvements at Knicks Park because I know we've discussed it you know 80 90 percent of the folks that use next Parker County residents we want to be together on those improvements and we set aside the five million dollars to use for boat ramp improvements and I know that Dan's had some discussions with you know mr. Lupo to kind of work together on that as well so we're a team here I just want to make sure that it again the maps that we're saying do not show it going in front of Hooters in front of Knicks Park which again I know it's needed because I've been there where the Miss Virginia cannot get out and we hate to see that and we want folks to be able to get into whiskey Joe's I know Commissioner Stark he's talked about her boat not being out to get over the sand and it's an issue there so it needs to be cleared out I just want to again it's it's a good project my opinion I think we support

the city and I know it was unanimous for you guys to move forward with this project but to me it comes down to the commerce the you know tourism and and we are a team so just gonna double check on the the map that's all yes commissioner and if if the board likes we can achieve and I'm sorry we can get the engineering plans from the city of Port Richey which would show specifics that's just a graphical representation of what you know the understanding of what was submitted to us so we can certainly provide that okay that'll be our Chairman thank you thank you I'm going to jump on that one a little bit and I know what Commissioner Wells and speaking of if between the Hooters and the dock that's and it gets in addition to the other areas by whiskey Joe's it's pretty bad there so here's why that wouldn't be included if you're gonna gonna dredge man just open this bad boy yeah right this is Commissioner Starkey yeah we ran aground on that sand in front of whiskey Jose and my husband said he won't go there by boat anymore so I do think that that a sandbar that I think is from the allegedly from the gambling boat but I think they went to court and got a ruling that it wasn't from them I think that that buildup definitely needs to go for the betterment of that home waterfront area thank you in the Iraq Commissioner starting going back to what Commissioner wells also stated about some the shrimp boats - and you stated commissioner wells and that correct is difficult for them to get anything all correct it is like I said when the tides are low which is you know several days a month they can't get out I mean I've been there when the they just can't they can't get across right out front of hooters it gets Barry show mr. chairman Jack Mariano Commissioner Marriott glad sir yeah you know as far as time on Nick's Park and all I mean part of this project is it was going to be improving Waterfront Park there was some issues with that that's why we do it to talk about next Park but I agree with Commissioner Wells if we can use the five million dollar grant or even boater Improvement funds that's where that funding should take place to go do that that Park from what I understand from you years ago over 30 plus years ago that was actually funded with a County Park working with the city to get that done wasn't just on the city on its own but we worked together on a grant project with that talking about the sandbar in a meeting we had recently with the city our team our consultant we actually talked about that whiskey Joe sandbar in the issue that it had out there and we were told at that meeting and I was have been told before at that before that meeting that know that sandbar was not included into the cleaning out of the dredge and Commissioner wells are right on the money as far as in Commissioner Starkey it's a very integral part of whiskey Joe's to be done to be fixed I mean they were a parking issue there that would have definitely helped that out and

catches has bought the marina next door to it and they've clearly said that that sandbar stretches from there goes all the way up through and actually affects their business with the marine as well so that does need to be included I don't think they've got the permits the way the lined up for that and if it was it's different when I was told in separate meetings I would like to go back to the presentation given to the Restorick committee now those you may know with five different states affected by the Gulf Gulf oil spill that was done we're the only state that had local control over any plots of money whatsoever we have 23 counties that work together we all work together on different things and one of the things we talked about was improving the water quality in the Gulf of Mexico we talked about trying to use community to science-based decision making across the board to make sure we're going to do the right things for the environment every step of the way we talked about making sure we're going to put these grants forward but not only just put the grant forward but look at leveraging and all about improving the water quality when I look at the agenda item that's given to us on the very opening part of the background summary alternative analysis it says what's going to be done which mr. Ellis said other items from initial scope was submitted and approved by the US Department of Treasury will not be completed at the bottom of the same opening thing of page 1 of 2 on the memorandum that says Pasco County has a grant agreement with the US Department of Treasury in a sub-recipient with the city of Port Richey request funds from restore ID to complete this project amended multi-year implementation plan is required to us the change in the scope of the project from what was initially submitted if you look at the map Mike if you go back to the map that you had up there with where the dredging was going to be the amended multi-year plan that was put in it has been changed part of it was a boat ramp park was going to change and I understand why it happened why had to go back but if you look at the pink lines that are up there as they go forward the Gil Dog channel that goes all the way down there was one there's an integral part as far as water quality goes that would actually take stormwater out into the Gulf and create more flow into the Gulf the other channels to above would help with water quality substantially and Commissioner Wells as we talked many times and you made the comment before as far as I'm okay to do dredging with with storm water funds and to making sure we're dredging these canals out there they are going to help with storm water and the Commission supported step the state expenditure plan for pod for the port richey outfall everybody's seen the map and I want to say staff is doing a phenomenal job tying those in together working with Swift mud in the meeting we had with David deluge the mayor the manager and our team we talked very clearly about how the water quality would be affected in the storm water

benefits to it now when the presentation was done with Swift mud from what I understand we broke it into parts you can break it down you can combine it together the benefit was probably doing one large project altogether having said that something when I look at the narrative that's being submitted to Treasury it talks about the opening as far as having 25 severely impacted water bodies and finger canals within the city limits channels 14 through 18 will directly connect into a stormwater pond along Old Post Road that has a connection in can be a potential connection that will definitely help with the stormwater flow it will also help with all the properties on there which there's been a lot of willingness for people that donate into it to actually help dredge out those canals which will help with water quality which is what this thing is all about so knowing that we're looking at 25 civilian impacted channels we've got a project that abuts working with Swift mud right now to it and even if we can't use it with the stormwater benefit the water quality benefit is there and that should be looked at before we make this thing going forward when you look at the modeling overlay district it talks about project objectives and this is what was submitted to the original group it talked about improved boater access to the waterfront overlay district it does some of that but along those channels as a team or residents that are there that would definitely be impacted in a better way for boater access improving the water quality it talks about the waterways in entering the pit let's go pilasters Cody river but Miller's Bayou will dramatically get a benefit by doing the water quality by dredging the 14 to 18 channels not the the water benefit of dredging which we're going to dredge is very minimal as far as effect goes improving the habitats fishing planting in life in the city's waterways will be dramatically helped even more do those channels along the way disbursement of time water runoff should not even be on this list whatsoever because there's no stormwater benefit for the runoff increased tidal flow the tidal flow will go up into these canals back and forth and create a better a much better way for for tidal flow when it talks about the purpose the bottom of the page as far as your objectives go the project benefit provides numerous benefits to improve improved water quality I will suggest to you I don't even know why the gill dog channel get pulled out of this I still haven't got an explanation why it's the one that actually affects the water quality so I don't know if it's a political game that's being played with a manager not like an an owner or whatever's going on in there I don't know I don't care but that channel should not have been pulled out of there when they talk about a more aquatic ecosystem that's by improving by the water flow so back to us to improve storm water quality on a storm surge that water's going to come in if you have a full Gulf it's not going out that's yeah that the pink line that

that's on here the guild dog channel have pulled it out into their new map the new method they submitted they've taken that out this map is not correct this was the other presentation when and just to go back to mr. Sharkey when they presented this to us this is a twelve million dollar project they're saying they don't have the money to go finish all the other projects so we're looking at we need to go isolate what this project really is that's what I want to kind of get to they're looking at just this project that's taken out so there's no water quality benefits there's nothing to help the Gulf it goes completely against what was presented to the rack if you look at the scoring sheet that was that submitted being that we're signing on because we're the we're the recipient the committee are Curtis Franklin has a submission on and on his chart it shows all the boxes you could go with the ten criteria that are qualifying eligible activity that criteria right now has just one box checked on 6a on infrastructure project benefiting the economy or ecological resources so out of all ten boxes where they have scored before now they only check one box with the project in front of them the screen that you have up that on the screen if you look up there the very second the second project this is the Waterfront Park revitalization plan now if you take the scoring which could be up to five points the scoring there go all the way across whether the red red star is it goes all the way over these score points on every single category even to timing if you give them a five there are very good score of 3195 if you take this new plan look at the bottom screen just by the official chart we are submitting to Treasury that Curtis Langston signed as part of this document is going to go to Treasury now we have one box checked on 6a and even if you give them a perfect score for timing their project is a 10 it has now gone from the near the top of the list it's at the very bottom of the list now if you look at the document that was given to us as well the same thing attaches to this thing that's going to Treasury when you look at this on page 52 out of 57 it goes to alter a component project submitted for consideration of funding via the RESTORE Act we're screened scored criteria specifically delve developed for that funding opportunity see attachment D I will tell you there's no attachment D because there's no scientific backup for this this talks about later on however for T project were presented to the rack which held 15 public meetings including the city of Port Richey the committee members graded the project and staff collated results the document we're going to be sending over has had no rack approval for just this scope of business and now we're on the hook because if this thing goes as it will say the right for the Treasury to disallow costs and recover funds in the basis of a later audit or other review page 17 of the other thing says the Treasury determines the remaining portion of this award will

not accomplish if Treasury determines that the remaining portion of this award will not accomplish the the purpose of the word Treasury may be may terminate this would in its entirety I will tell you we have more environmental people all the consortium means we all we have environmental people here the room was always packed with that different exam we have got a great reputation with consortium with first ones get project through the work that Curtis Franklin did he led the way he made us look great as a county across the state crosses across the the whole Gulf because we have done things in such a great way when we look at what was supposed to be done between the leveraging the public input this project being as it submitted maybe it could scape through but if it bounces back it's gonna be on us it's gonna damage our reputation it's not gonna help the with the water quality in the Gulf and we're gonna be looking bad going through this and we may lose the funding and do you think you're gonna get it back from poverty I would say no I strongly recommend you bring us back to the table like we tried to do with Swift mud because we had the meeting with Swift mud our consultants said there is a connection with storm water I have talked with the Swift wind represented that we have and they say if you put the whole thing together you'd had a better shot especially if we get into construction it's gonna be cheaper to do everything in one shot but those five canals right there will help with storm water they'll help with storm surge issues it'll help the city a much better way and improve the water quality of the Gulf what's you're submitting here right now does not do it now I just want to say this a year and a half ago I met with me at Tremblay I met with councilman Dittmer writing Gil dogs property with Eric his partner and another game a gentleman named Chuck Puccini we talked about how to improve the removal of that DMA site that D may say right now has got to go to our landfill class one it's going to cost a fortune our own staff does not want us to take that it's going to take up a vital Lin landfill space we can do a better way by combining the soils and working with it now granted testings got to be done on it but from the bid that was done a year and a half ago that we kind of extrapolated out if you'd show the bid for my aqua Creek technology and the dredging cost estimates these are rough numbers doesn't include everything but the numbers are very close from one year to another year company called dive comm Gil dogs went out and actually got a price on what it would take to go dredge their channel now keep this in mind did everyone see the letter from Gil dogs did everybody just get the letter from Gil dogs and read it so let me just read it you it's not that long thank you for considering the following information my my name is Eric Shaw enn I am the managing partner for Rio LLC which holds the title to the property located five for one ninth red will drive in Port

Richey this is right across from where Gil dogs is the parcel includes that the parcel includes a submerged land and channel 18 we house also know the title through by your brothers to Oregon parcel parcel numbers on there it's a five acre parcel located directly adjacent to Gil dog in channel 18 the purpose of this letter is to present some potential synergy in regards to port Richie's effort to dredge as well as some other channels the county is studying for drugs work my understanding is that if an owner of a property is willing to accept the clean dredge spoils and he highlights in big print dredge spoils clean it eliminates a great deal of complications in government red tape this information was provided to a gentleman named Devin burry smih managing director for a company called dive calm marine dive come from by provided me with a proposal to dredge channel 18 and permanently locate spoils on our Goncourt he did not see this any great problem and it was his suggestion I believe the county has a purple copy of his proposal to me and then we extrapolated out from there got a run proposal Devin informed me that his company does major dredging projects all over the world and he could be a good source of information for the city in the county I have not taken the time to do the vetting of dive comm but have no reason to doubt the legitimacy to this of this point in addition in using channel 18 as an access to the our gonna spoil site which is about 75 yards away as opposed to the current plan of navigating a barge under around us 19 Bridge to a dot small DMA site dewatering waiting for it to dry before moving then trucking you to a permanent site could save the taxpayers a tremendous amount of money pumping the spoils over or possibly under across the street to opals through an existing drainage pipe could potentially eliminate the need for any trucking expense I believe new port richey built a scaffold rig pump the spoils over the street on orange lake project and by the way Commissioner sake those apartments look awesome yeah they've done a great job there these are several other benefits of dredging channel 18 and taking this pass presumably quicker relief from storm surge with a deeper channel tourism improvements by making charter boats visible from us 19 more boater access with added dockage wet slips and boatless in closing I was involved in president at the meetings when the RESTORE Act money was pledged to port richey we had in still a very high hope for this area the Port Richey community has well over two million adult dollars of taxpayer money invested in the project and we need to we need the county's help to make sure the money has not been wasted my family has a significant amount of money invested in Port Richey improvements as well we recently lost a sale of the Aragon property partially due to excessive fill that we would be

required to raise the property to approximately six feet simply put we need to fill thank you for your consideration as exploring this further please make sure this letters included with recorded documents for the bc bo CC midi meeting held today so with all that said I don't want to take the money away I want to see the dredging get done but I want to see it done right those channels going from the proposal that I went to the city myself with a year and a half ago as well as my private meeting with the do councilman I want to make sure that we do this thing right and if if we got the risk of Treasury coming back at us we've done nothing for leveraging going in there we can do better for the citizens of Port Richard in the citizens of Pasco County so we can go they can go to even keep the 200 grand and let them go to the street improvements I don't care we can probably even include that in when we do the underwater pass project they can even go to do the waterfront project we can go fund that with a boding money but put this dredging money where it needs to go to improve the water quality start with these channels and you might even be able to go if you go to the original map up there that was shown but all the lines with the 25 channels they keep on talking about you might even be able to go that full yellow line all the way up those channels and who knows you might even go further when you have a big bid and keep in mind this whole thing is all prefaced on one bid coming in and the bids getting higher than expected the shift I don't understand the shift there's no reason to pull the kid good luck Channel out to go add these streetscape improvements that channel should have been left in anyway so I'm gonna say this again and you know our staff did a great job working on this thing and my car Bella for the faux all that you do I mean you got the busiest guy in a planet you do a great job with the scope that was given in front of you understand how this could have happened but I'm gonna tell you would be a travesty if we made this step forward knowing we can get seven channels for the price of two in approved water quality for the Gulf of Mexico and help to get the city get the other things they want to still get done we can still get those done so I say we bring them back to the table let's go work this thing out and not just work with storm water but water quality with Swift mud if we get the matching funds even if that eight hundred grands the number if we get matching funds with it we're still at the same number and this I will tell you there's a better chance to do something better I'll explain this to you the restoring money right now doesn't allow the state doesn't allow you to have matching funds and when I say that it's a swift mud policy we could actually take a look impossibly push to not only get the seven of the 667 for a match money we could go look at all the money we're putting in to the Magnolia valley project poverty outfall project and try to tap into that we will be the first county to do it talking to

Brian Brian Armstrong CEO of swift mine there's a possibility but like he said from the get-go submit a plan so I'm an emotion that we cancel this project and do not approve this that's my motion I have a nap for 15 minutes I need everybody that one second please F Commissioner Oakley as the floor I have a motion on the table and mr. Oakley aye first thing I'd like to say is I'm not as familiar with the waterways on the west side of our County like I should have been out early in Georgia and it's a beautiful location area in our County that I'd never realize we even had so but the time I've been there and seen I I see the issues and boats can't get out of canals and boats and especially our trappers over there and they can't get out when they need to get out to do the commercial fishing and others I appreciate Commissioner Mariano Commissioner wells or Commissioner Starkey of their knowledge of those hours which I do not know that much about but a one question comes to mind and I am for this project because we've held it up sounds like six years at least now so a lot of things see things move forward rather than be held up before we move them you know forward at the same time I guess my Cabella could you answer this question of the fact if we're doing that first page of that dredging how far from that is the sandbar that they're talking about that's not part of this program so Commissioner I would if it if the city of Port Richey is still on the line I'd like for them to clarify that we we worked off the information that that was provided and I don't have the engineering plans so I don't know if the mayor of vice mayor or any of your staff are available that could answer that question specifically okay if they're not that's okay we can reach out and get that information the reason I'm asking that is if it's not very far from where you're gonna dredge to it's cheaper for us to go forward and dredge that sandbar out at the same time we're dredging very close to that sandbar so I would like to look into that as an addition to this not adding it on now but in the near future when we're out there actually doing the work be able to raise the money to take care of that at the same time that had to me that gives you a more completed project and that's been too long already before the past six years trying to get to this point of waiting to do something in that area for for the boaters and for citizens in that area and the businesses out there so I'm very much for this project and I'd like to see it go forward dropping back to go do something else again I we can still work toward funding and add those all at the end of this but this is a thing we need to be looking at to get started if we don't ever get started we never get to the end so I would appreciate if we we look at that situation so I'm in paving this project starting not not seven I still motionless lor I'm going to Commissioner start came out and she was after

Commissioner hopefully and we apparently do have the port richey folks on the line here so I do have some questions as well I think I would like to see that I think it's channel 18 the tip I'd like to know why that was dropped I think that's a really important channel for the downtown and wondered you know I'd like to see all of this dredged obviously but I do agree with Commissioner Oakley that we need to at least get something going so I wonder about adding channel 18 and then removing that sandbar in front of whiskey Joe's what what does it take to add that to this project so mayor Tremblay if you're on the line if you could answer those questions we'd appreciate it the best I can I can tell you that when the bids originally came in they came in pretty close to about half a million dollars per canal and the reason being is one of the ways to cut cost as Commissioner Mariano said would be if we could have had a spoil site where we could have put our spoils the problem is that the toxicity level of the spoils as they've been tested put us in a class 1 landfill which is quite expensive and I don't know of any other way to do that since our soil has already been scientifically tested through channel 19 and and so we already know a little direction that is headed channel 18 is a channel that runs between Waterfront Park and the kill dogs which is a business owner general 18 would have some benefit one of the issues we had Waterfront Park is it's a passive part we're not allowed to have votes with with motors on and we're not allowed to have boat ramps there because of some usage restrictions to the land that was the reason that our council decided to approve based on the limited funding that we have which was 667 which would include the dredging which links to by you two like I said the river the reason why that's important is I know that Commissioner Mariano expressed an interest and dredging all these other canals however dredging those canals has no benefit to our voting public if they can't get from the Bayou to the river so that was the logic behind the amount of money we had defense the way the bids came in it seemed to us most logical to to dredge that main canal that links the Bayou to the river also in response to mission or Oakley's inquiry all the crucial partial fishing boats and we have are along at channel 26 a which would be part of the dredge so it would relieve the pressure in terms of the commercial fishing industry that's where all our commercial fishing boats are civil would have a great impact on the commercial ability or the commercial impact would be for our city so so it does where that commercial area let me ask you because the one time we took our boat to whiskey Joe's and we hit that sandbar we tied up because we couldn't get into whiskey Joe's I guess would be just south of it I think on a commercial pier and so there were a lot of boats commercial boats tied up on that pier which to me is kind of falling apart and was kind of sketchy to even walk on but

I did commissioner wells are there not some commercial boats south of south of whiskey Joe's they're sure more commissioner Starkey they that's where Lowe's and you heard Commissioner Murray I'll talk about it Lowe's has purchased that property up in the marina there I believe they've already ripped out the docks and the mayor could ring answer that I haven't been over there but but that's the plan that they're gonna redo it they need that sandbar gone then that would be good so I want to move forward but I want to I want to help more of the waterfront there what what kind of cost do you think it would be to bring that even if you don't dredge the whole thing but just dredge over there in front of that new marina and whiskey Joe's and and maybe they would help pitch in I don't know if you've talked to them but well how much more are we talking if you know that answer the answer is I don't know because it wasn't permitted what I can tell you is the channel actually runs the west of coming in so so to get from the river under the bridge and around the channel 19 and and up the river is not a problem the only problem is with boats coming in and out of whiskey Joe's it's really generally our commercial boats but they're their recreational boats to come in and out for dinner so the answer is I don't know what the cost would be to dredge that I can tell you that the per canal the average cost with disposal and in the actual dredge itself has been about a half-million dollars so that's why we are where we're at because of the cost of the dredge so for a half-million dollars more we could get that area done is that what I heard no I like karbala I think you missed a key point it's not part of the permit either so you would have to go back and expend extend the permit so you know if you want to move forward now you need to approve this project that's what's permitted and then you know either the city or us can work together on extending the permit to include this area but I would mean that's what I would that would be my motion is to go forward with this permit because I agree we need to get moving so these people can enjoy the area and I would maybe we need to do it in stages Jack I think it's tough to do everything it's going to take us forever to get all that done and to get the agreements with all the people pitching in I think it's doable but I think it's gonna take a long time and and I would rather not wait but I would like to see us do you know stay at step two step three and step two would be to extend that purple channel down and actually when I look at the map here I'm gonna ask commissioner wells I look at the but I look at the bridge over 19 and I see a huge sandbar to the right of the bridge is it blocked they are coming out of the Cody River no it's deep there it's deep accessed ok the mayor say that I mean as far as the canal getting from there to you know the boat ramp is good on that side the others the other side of the issue and he's correct folks getting out of motors

Bayou the access or folks who might want to have a bigger boat that living there Miller's Bayou that had the same issue of getting out of that Bayou what do you think it's a bad idea yes so let me stop real quick good because Commissioner Starkey was that motion you made or did you the state don't make that motion the motion never got a second that's on the floor did not I know but I still have two motions on the floor so now I have a motion by Commissioner Starkey ok mr. chairman mr. chairman yes go ahead Commissioner Mariana I'd like to have a little bit more disco I want to touch on the subjects I just have come up since the mayor had just spoken when we were in the meeting and I've been in two other meetings as well talking about that sandbar it's not the first time the conversations come up and as mr. Bell's just said it is a separate permit to go out and do it part of the reason they wanted to rush this project through and get it done so they get it done quicker not to take the time to look at that matching money from DEP or a swift month that could have happened but they wanted to get the project done quicker that's what we were told and I've been told that several times not just once so as far as to try to get done quicker it's not going to get it done quicker if you include that anyway and if you don't include that shame on you secondly the reason this project had held up in Commissioner Oakley it's it's important to mind it I don't blame the city that it got held up but it got held up because they had to go change the scope of the project because of Waterfront Park because when they finally did their work on it they found out you know they couldn't close Nick Park to make it a parking lot they had to keep it a boat ramp there at the waterfront park they had the issue over there too so because of that the change scope so it's not that they did something wrong they were trying to do I think something good at the time to go change all that because they could put more parking over there would have been better but because of deed restrictions etc they were putting that's a situation where they had to resubmit now the fault would come in in my opinion when they did submit curtis franklin recommended do not change the scope the way you're changing it because it's going to affect how Treasury approves it Treasury looked at in Treasury denied it so amongst our staff recommendation they applied for it anyway because this is what they wanted to go do now you saw on the chart that Curtis is now going to submit through it it checks one box out of ten it would score very low this would be at the bottom of the list of we just saw up there it wouldn't score at all now if we're gonna do this let's do it right let's go take the time we had someone that was I don't remember Kings Bay that did the presentation for us they did everything up to Kings Bay they can do that person he was sand inshore the the environmental people come in they come down they looked at these channels they thought they could put a really good sea grass in there they

talked about eel grass that they used up in Kings Bay they were gonna use that Egret Egret yeah to really help the water quality which they thought would work in that whole area they said that dma site just like PUC Chuck Puccini told these guys a year and a half ago you could do a lot better with the cost involved these guys think that if you just take that DMA site you combine it with other dirt cleaner dirt it take the toxicity level down now you can do all sorts of other things with it I don't think it's gonna be that much different we started at orange like the runoff that's there I mean think about orange lake where's that runoff coming from cars traffic silt etc all those years it was all pumped right into there I don't think the orange lake would be any different than that and I think you'd use that for a base and if Gil dogs can then use that for a base guess what you've now taken to help redevelopment go now that property comes even more valuable where we can go do something with it if we take our time and do this right if they listen to us if they come to the table with DEP we can make this an awesome project but what we're doing right now I don't know how you make another but here's what you say don't come to the table we're not gonna sign up because we don't want the risk of being shut down by Treasury saying because you didn't do the project the way it was because this thing would have scored only 10 points out of 30 compared to the others and you didn't go before there they're the RESTORE Act committed to let him see the new revised project they could pull the money away then we're at risk I mean we've got a lot of cards here to hold and I'm gonna tell you think about this we talk about the boating public I don't know why he's not thinking about the people live in the canals those canals are high-tech high-paying now Commissioner Moore we talked about the CRA one of the things we talked about on this project we're having discussion with when we dredge these canals of these waterfront homes those property values go up and they told me Vince Lupo so it said it I want to get us off the CRA you want to help the city get off the CRA go dredge those canals with the water from homes property values go up water quality's go up and you may be able to get them off that CRA which is better for the citizens of all of Pasco County not just port richey and improves everything out there this is the way to get this project set up is terrible because as the city tells you they don't have money funds are limited well this limiting of funds is not going to let them go do anything else so we've got to look at this as a one-time one-shot project this money's gonna be expended and you getting it all you're gonna get for it is what in front of you I will tell you from talking to staffs with my DEP we can do so much better and if we're gonna go spend this money with the way the BP money was supposed to be spent we should do it the right way and keep this in mind and talking about leveraging funds never mind just even

confirm that there is and and I agree with the motion on the floor but I just want to make sure that the board understands there is three phases to this project this isn't the only phase and we're done forever just so the city of Port Richey has outlined a three-phase plan that is that is correct as far as timelines and funding go those those remain unknowns mr. chairman no I had my coffee misty Heather end up first I just want to say if in Phase two Jack we can take a lot of your ideas and maybe do Phase two cheaper like take those foils and put it on that that was an arbor court and work with Swift mud let's work on that with phase two but let's go ahead and get full get going with phase one mr. burr Mariota yeah so the key thing to mind is in the agenda item we've got it I'm gonna read it again other items from the initial scope that was submitted and approved by the US Department and Treasury will not be completed they're giving up on the rest of it they've said it publicly that they're not going to do phase two and three you're looking at just getting phase one done but he's already told you that the sandbar could be permitted we're in a meeting he he said it couldn't be permitted it wouldn't be permitted by his own staff but when you look at that you got to remember you're getting just this done if you go through with this they have no money to go spend anything on you're going to lose out the chance to get matching funds from Swift mud from citizens and businesses that will all benefit and want to see this happen with the redevelopment of the city which is what this is supposed to do and get water quality what you're doing right now you're taking away all that chances because there's no phase two two and three common from what they've got planned mr. Tremblay I don't I I have a second on the floor so I mean if you're gonna pull your second if not we need to call call the but I'm calling the boat I have a question based on what I just heard me - okay do you want to remove - somebody want to pull their motion I mean this is a lot of discussion for having a second on the floor it's not normal I understand it but I think it's a very important decision we gotta make do so I agree no no I don't have says most of the second what they just said they're gonna do phase one why are we looking at it agenda item that we we know or somebody knows they're only gonna do phase one and they're not gonna try to do two or three what why are we looking at like this if that is the case I don't understand we're not just voting on phase one we're voting I'm gonna go through phase two and three that was my concern so mr. chair I believe I have Curtis Franklin on the line from from parks who who has a deep history I'd like to call on on mr. Franklin to speak to the phases that are approved and then if if it's the board's pleasure to probably hear from the city of Port Richey if they're still on the line the

parks record natural resources I just wanted to point out that only phase one was vetted and approved by the county commissioners only phase one went through the RESTORE Act Advisory Committee so if you were to approach a phase can you hold on the commission Wells comes back in Curtis can we hang on - mr. wells come back and you just walked out okay I can hold up for a sec can I make a comment while he's out please go ahead jack just because this is the only face with the restore money doesn't mean that we won't find another way to move forward with other funds because dredging has occurred before before there was restore so I think this dredge is important to everybody and if the community comes together at what the county we can find we'll look for solutions to keep on dredging that's my thought well but I want to hear from the city if they're going to work towards other to continue to find solutions to dredge more of their waterfront mr. chairman please go ahead if you looked at the dredging numbers that were quoted from dive economy on the other company those numbers aren't far off the one agenda item we got in front of us right now streetscaping can be done anytime we could probably incorporate that into the MPO thing make that work if you mighty because EDC money if you if you chose to as we talked about before trying to make that waterfront uh you know underpass work the boat ramp money you don't need to put that in here when you dredge all those projects in one shot you get one mobilization you got one dewatering and if Eric's got his whole project right there you could put all the soils right there providing they test out which Eric thinks they will and then dive con things they will you save all that money and you get seven channels instead of two and you can get them just done just as quick because I will tell you when you get to go permit that sandbar that's gonna take some time I'll wait for about ten or fifteen more seconds of moving on let's hear the city talk about how they're going to do phase two and three if you guys guys I've controlled the meeting so we will wait for a few more seconds for seat mister Franklin comes if not we will move on to the mr. Franklin's in the city you hear me not yes sir just give me few more seconds mr. Franklin and then we'll move City and then work either take your pull your motion or I'm calling it up I just wanted to point here that only phase one was vetted for the RESTORE Act Advisory Committee only if that phase went through the process so if we've moved to phase two or phase three those would have to go through the process of going in front of the rack and then further on going and getting approved by the Board of County Commissioners mr. chairman mr. Mariana I disagree with that statement Curtis when when the staff looked at the president when the RAC looked at this whole presentation was all the parts together matter of fact the very first presentation the city gave they talked about the water quality I told him to go

back with the proposal think about it try to come back bigger they came back back with all three phases the biggest thing they got all the attention and I listened to the tape the biggest attention matter of fact the whole slideshow that's right in here has got all three that's what we approved that that's what the schools were based upon not just this phase one I contest that we did not have this in front of the rack to look at just this phase one especially was right here because this myp had to be pulled back when they changed the scope the rack has not seen this yet and even the chart that you've got in there shows that they just have one out of nine out of the ten criteria that it's met so I can test that statement you want to discuss that further commissioner with when the rack or what it was brought to the board of county commissioners only phase one was submitted under the multi-year implementation plan so when you look at the multi-unit limitation plan it only accounts for those particular parts of that plan the other phase two of eights three the kubinka canals going around was not part of that plan it was not for under snow sets of Treasury or part of that project mr. chairman all right so this proposal that's in front of us is just to the Commission it hasn't been in front of the rack correct I'm not really sure I understand a question is made the whole presentation was made to the RESTORE Act Advisory Committee but they're only days won't move forward with going through the moment multi-year implementation plan and being sent to Treasury mr. chairman yes sir so the RAC has not heard just this one phase they were presented with all the phases the Commission has just looked at this one phase as approving whether whether it goes forward the scoring that was done by the RAC showed categories all ten categories scored points where they scored very high when we looked at your chart I took your chart extrapolated from where you said they they would qualify for points there was only one category and I gave them the bonus for timing to be to be a five so it'd be perfect they scored at the very bottom of the list the RAC has not seen this one presentation and I the board mr. chairman I'll go bring it - again again I think this should go back before the rack and let the rack look at it because right now you're just making a decision if this can fit into a Treasury's decision and I will tell you I think I still think because of the way this is presented the way this hasn't been in front of the rack we could be at risk of that hole 6 667 sure I said you know what you made it sound like you went to the rack and you didn't we don't think you've done the water quality we can go pull the money back and now we're on the hook for six hundred and sixty seven grand that you've allocated which the iraq did not get to see okay mister Franklin D everything else to respond to it if not I have a city on the line and they could speak about the timing of phase two and

three that was another question that they commissioned Mariana or a commissioner both Starkey both had don't sir I have nothing else to add I'm gonna go ahead and go with Mayor Tremblay can you speak to face two and three and again folks um whenever just remind the commissioners that I have a second on the floor so after this and I saw Commissioner oakley's hand up either withdraw your motions restate a motion or somebody call the question okay one of those three things have to happen after Commissioner Oakley yes go ahead mr. mayor Sibley well I'm gonna redraw my second on the motion that mr. Arky made and with that I don't know what the motion should read but I think we should step back and look at it further like mr. Morales suggests to begin with I'll let him make the motion well I called on the mayor to speak I was gonna go to you so let me go back to the home page to him he says that question was asked by Commissioner Mariana and Commissioner starting go ahead if I may thank you first of all I wanted to say everything that mr. Franklin said is is accurate from what I understand historically what I can say is the city has never withdrawn its request to move forward with phase two and three and obviously phase one has to happen before we can get to phase two and three as soon as phase one is complete which is this initial dredge which has a great benefit it's my intent to go back to our council to redress two and three but I can tell you we've never withdrawn our requests through the rack to continue on with Phase two and three thank your mayor Tremblay now I'm going back to you again Commissioner Oakley you're stating that you want to withdraw your second now yes I will draw my second so I have stew up well so there's no second the Commissioner Starkey's motion I'll second commit this charkie's motion knowing that there is a phase two and phase three and after having curtis and the mayor explain things I am comfortable with Commissioner Starkey's motion read her look like I have a second by Commissioner Wells madam Clerk all role district one Commissioner Oakley no district three Commissioner Starkey I District four Commissioner Wells District five Commissioner Mariano Nate District two chairman more motion passes three to chill please get to work on phase two the regular agenda items we're gonna on queue plenty of is mission sorry my Commissioner where's the addendum they are one and I got a Breitenbach on the line to talk to that one yes I apologize I thought yes you're correct ar AR to attach to our - so let's go ahead and move to AR apologize the Commission this arracourt black assistant county administrator for internal services item AF one is for your consideration a it cares small business protective equipment reimbursement program that is to be funded by the firown' for its relief fund this program is capital at 1 million dollars and is to provide direct expense of small business

owners who provided he for their employees due to Cove in 1915 by authorizing reimbursement to small businesses but dollars per business on a first-come first-served basis through million application the requirements we've set out for there's an assister qualify offer they have to be a for-profit privately held small business in Pasco County that was established prior to March 2020 and they must employ between 20 and 50 employees with the majority of residing in Pasco County the PPE purchases made when the small business must have been made on or after March 1 2010 before December 30 20 20 eligible PPE includes things like face masks gloves she'll face shields gowns hand sanitizers and disinfectants that are effective against over 19 County will have an online portal set up for application to be submitted we will be posted on the county's website and pending your approval hoping to receive the request for reimbursement beginning this Thursday May 21st at 0 900 with that I stand in blocked blessings and respectfully request approval of this program Thank You mr. Bryton and obviously this is I think a good firstly I think this is a great program we want to obviously continue to support our small businesses across classical County and obviously for the health and well being a citizen oh very much appreciate your bringing this to us so many questions or comments from the board I think wait a minute I concur with your comments chairman it's a great program that's the intent of this money is to get it out help our small businesses and get the money into our economy with that I make the motion to approve a are 1 Commissioner stark you have a motion by Commissioner Stark you'll have a second mr. Mariano first I'm not correct second by commissioner manana Madame clerk please call district 1 Commissioner Oakley I district 3 Commissioner Starkey I district 4 commissioner Wells or district 5 commissioner Mariano by district to chairman Warren I motion passes 5-0 thank you all all right now when we bought into miscellaneous business and I'll start with Commissioner Oakley district 1 floor is yours Oh business we're ready I have forwarded to you chairman Laura Capital credit refund check on from Withlacoochee River Electric they did this actually two months early and so they asked me what it would be and an hour check from them is 319,000 $642 to Pascoe County and then they've sent a check also to me to go to Tampa Bay water for a ninety seven thousand sixty seven dollars and fourteen cents so it's great that they helped us as needed during this coded nineteen issues and the cost that's going on but that helps give us credit toward our electric bills that we've received from with future electric so second item this coming Saturday May 23rd is the hundredth birthday of Stanley Burnside they're having a drive by at meeting at the Presbyterian Church on Eastside at a

lot and we'll have a drive by around 10:15 on this Saturday that is his birthday mr. Burnside served as clerk of the circuit court for seven consecutive four-year terms and for that we're we're very grateful for that so also I will have next time a resolution on June 2nd for him and which I would like it can be in consent but I'd also like it to be read and into record and before the board thank you sir Commissioner Starkey please yes I am I've texted my assistant Danny to see if he can come back with me on the total amount of meals we've served so far as part of the flag 2020 Pasco but I can tell you we've hit every hospital now and today at lunchtime Commissioner Mariano and I and as your daughter joining us representative Mariano will be the during 50 lunches to bake air the North Bay hospital and I was on the phone with them this morning they're very much looking forward to our donation thank you very much and I think Greg who else is involved in that Greg Armstrong from Coldwell Banker and Jeremy Harding from Cola from Barrie Harding insurance and Commissioner Wells who works at Coldwell Banker as well as he may show we may be able to make who's going to try to adjust his calendar - excellent excellent so we'll be going there at lunchtime and Megan hurting with the school but maybe and maybe making Hardin school board member so a big showing today and thanks to our frontline workers this week I also delivered to the bay care drive-through at Gulf High School and while I was there there were a lot of people driving through so uh and that was on the recommendation of Mike Napier he recommended them they're doing such a great job and they're they're out there on the front line so thank you very much driving back from Orlando or Kissimmee this weekend's first time I've been out of the county I think in two months it's very weird feeling I came back along State Road 56 and it has that wonderful Trail Commissioner Moore and Commissioner Oakley I'm not sure who's District two rivers ranches and all that properties that yours mr. Moore and it's a nice trail and it goes all the way to Bruce B downs when you get under Wiregrass Boulevard over there I believe but it really lacks any amenities any signage any benches there's nothing there so I would love for one of you two guys or both of you to kind of take it into consideration that we could take trees from four-g ranch we could take some money from our landscape being fun we could have Boy Scouts build some little shelters along there we could have manna ties that trail I didn't see anybody on it and I'd really like that to be well used amenity out there so just just a thought for you guys and that is it huh thank you ma'am okay that's it okay Oh Commissioner well Deanna are you gonna bring up I wanted to bring up about you know the I'm on the United Way board with Kathy and some things that they've

done as far as helping those in need as well as the triple a with the federal dollars helping support restaurants to help feed folks in pascal's gonna go over the numbers but if you're going to I don't want to take okay well we can just wait for yours I do I think it's important for the board to see the numbers you know we it's it's it's neat how we're able to support local restaurants and pay them $10 a meal and it's been a huge success I just think it's I just wanted to highlight that and just I also like to highlight real quick the great job that staff and the EDC has done I know that Bill's team has been inundated working hard to get these checks to everybody and I know everybody that I've spoke to has already received their check it's far as small business wise very grateful obviously I wish we could help everyone but I understand the funds are limited but with that 7 million we were able to help so many so I just wanted to commend everybody on that again so thank you that's it mr. wells Commissioner Mariano Thank You mr. chairman and maybe under Dan's presentation we'll be able to talk about do we have enough mass for hurricanes if we have shelters we're gonna have to have the space we're gonna go do we're gonna have the testing I know we asked a question at the Monday Monday afternoon meeting you know what's the story as far as a testing mass so I mean testing kits not for the antibodies but for the disease itself so and how to treat people when they do come in so hopefully that'll be in the presentation I hope that as we look at the storm water project with Magnolia Valley with the outfall lab mr. Carvelle is still there that we do look closely at the boring test to find out what soils are good which aren't I'm talking to mr. Bowers you talked about doing another district park in the district for area or somewhere around there from Magnolia Valley I think it may be time to look at if those soils are good we could maybe look take a look at another look at taking Mitchell Park and possibly raising that up about three feet so any time a rain comes those softball fields get wiped right out maybe it could be put just a soccer complex there and maybe at Magnolia Valley where it's high and dry to go look at just another maybe a 5 flex or 4 flex or softball which could be better served in an area which would could work out well I think there's good law a good number of opportunity for that soil that's out there as well we are working on leisure lane the habitat Town & Country villas project habits had you know as I think we all saw the email I think that they're tired of losing money I think looking at the construction I had actually a professional go out there look at a townhome project he could possibly build out there way he's working with Don Rosenthal right now as far as can they bring fill in could they bring fill in could they build a better product that would actually sell for more money to go so as we go look at trying to get the state expenditures for 1.5 million for

the septic the sewer conversion it may be an opportunity to kind of look if we can modify that fill set up that it may help and Mike if you could how are we doing as far as cleaning out that pond in the back that we found that we thought we didn't think was ours but now that we know it it's ours is that is that coming on the radar pretty quick Mike Carvalho I'll have to get back to you on that but Public Works is aware and I'll get you a work order and what they're the information on what they're doing about that pond okay my question based on something that you're just saying do we still own that property out there in Hudson that we bought years ago for utilities yes yes and actually we are in the middle of looking at designing a permanent Public Works Administration and west side maintenance facility on that property I wonder if there's any extra dirt on there that we could permit our own pond and bring some dirt down and put it on leisure because it's high up there so it's a thought certainly give give consideration to whatever the board desires on that you know if we have any property where we can get some dirt and fill leisure lane that would be great and with just one last thought like when you're talking with the city about the dredging or the project was just approved the Aquatic preserve legislation that just got passed may make it difficult to work that channel though actually don't skip that because it won't matter because because of any aquatic deserve money if it's approved with redirect money rupture okay so we're not affected by that but it'd be good for the board to know about the sandbar anyway yes we'll we'll report back oh I have a resolution resolutions we'd read them by title there's a couple of veterans that we have thank you what do you see the most I make a motion sort of hear the emergency move here the emergency second Starkey motion have a motion by Commissioner Mariana to hear the emergency mr. Stein Cera ducky I need one for each resolution I think sir no you can you can have one emergency for the two resolutions that's fine okay great thanks okay so have a motion by Commissioner Mariana to hear the moved emergency - here - resolution second by Commissioner to start eat madam clerk please call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley all right district three Commissioner Starkey I District four Commissioner well district five Commissioner Mariano I District two chairman more motion passes five zero floors yours Commissioner Mariano the first resolution is resolution number 20 - 163 resolution by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida recognizing Frank Kochhar for his service to the county or to the country in the United States Army from October 1st 1950 to October 15 1952 second looks like Commissioner Mariana a second by Commissioner Starkey madam clerk please call the roll Commissioner Oakley all right district 3 Commissioner Starkey I district 4 Commissioner wells sorry district 5 Commissioner Mariano by

district 2 chairman Warren motion passes 5-0 commercial Mariana your second one sir that'll only please resolution number 20 - 162 a resolution by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida recognizing Fritz Kosar for his services in the Armed Service I'm sorry in for his services in the armed forces of the United States from may 1943 to January 1948 I move approval of the World War 2 a veteran yeah very cool I will second thing I'm a motion by Commissioner Mayer on a second by commissioner Starkey madam clerk please call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley all right district three Commissioner Starkey I District four commissioner Wells or district five Commissioner Mariano uh district two chairman more hi motion passes 5-0 thank you so much anything else sir no sir fine thank you okay Thank You mr. Vyas yes sir before I turn it over to Kathy the question about mainsail I actually got the answer from three different people while we were sitting here they have their permits and our schedule to great break ground in June so just wanted to give you all the answers of that before you broke and now I will turn it over to Kathy okay go over some of the items that Commissioner Wells mentioned and some other things we're doing so go away take it away Kathy can everybody hear me because I can on you thank you hear me okay great Thank You Kathy Pearson assistant County Minister public sir the board an update on some of the programs next slide somebody change that slide please thank you programs Kids program this is the rental income so in mortgage assistance that we launched on 7046 applications put everything old for a second yeah mr. Pearson hold on one second you are now breaking up and we lost you okay you're back again you are on stagnant I guess you weren't views for it yeah you're no you're you're having cadets it's a network network issue probably on her yeah you want Commission item I can I can fly through these pretty quickly if you want yeah go ahead sorry miss Pearson no that's that's okay just as you can see from slide I'm not gonna read all the numbers but we are working through the applications on the Kara's program the the interesting one is at the bottom where the average disbursement is about almost $2,200 as a person as we work through these and it's working great between the various teams to include the clerk staff helping us out getting through that can you go to the next one so operation feed Pascoe this is a partnership with the United Way and started a couple weeks ago when we're serving about 3,000 meals a week through that again this is Commissioner Wells mentioned this the one using restaurants and caterers to help serve those that need the food so thanks go ahead a little more stats on that the dining out at home we get more of a seniors program we're serving about 88 a day and we're serving about almost 200 seniors through that program started near the end of April the senior of

meals drive-through started middle of March and we're serving about 240 hundred 50 seniors through that and we've shrunk taken about a hundred off the waitlist and are continuing to try to trim that waitlist down through the Kara's money so going to the next one comfort station we've mentioned this before serving almost about 3 or 50 people out there serving about 271 lunches and this is out near highway 19 and Ridge Road and go on and so we mentioned summer camps I think I mentioned them yesterday we are still planning on moving forward with summer camps but about half the normal capacity due to social distancing and in just some of the facilities we're gonna have to be using so online registration will begin on the 30th again this is we're doing this assuming we will be getting to a phase 2 which allows groups larger than 10 so that that caveat is still there before these camps start so and I think that's the last slide in commissioner that's all I have any questions for mr. biles will move to miss I do real quickly I'm good I'm really glad that we're doing this I've heard from many people who are so grateful that we have this opportunity are we able to rotate around to different restaurants on that dine out and just help more the restaurants I know with our program we've done 560 meals and we've helped weave we ordered those meals from local restaurants in the community just wondering if if we're able to rotate those restaurants so Duke can you guys hear me this is kathy peterson can you hear me to answer that question for the dining out program commissioners Starfy data store our triple-a and those restaurants be bedded so all restaurants that are interested in that have to get better to our Triple A as far as the United Way they are taking many applications and then using a lot of restaurants to serve so they're not as stringent as our Triple A is so if someone's listening and they want to get involved how do they contact you let me get to that you're talking about for the United Way we gave that information at the last for me that you need to contact United Way Madeline come and I will get that information for you one second okay okay well I will mainly for her to come back let me go ahead and just move on to the county attorney's office I don't have anything right now Commissioner thank you you're chairman thank you and our waiting will go on how to the club there's there she's back okay for the United Way for the dining out if you want to down dining out at a a a PP dot org that's all you need to eat now they will bet your restaurant and for the United Way you just need to call me your night way office and let me give you that number that's from Madeline Cologne one second or that and that number is seven two seven four three zero three zero right thank you so much clerk and comptroller yes hi I just wanted to say and commend both of our teams for the Pasco cares money finances processing checks daily on this and and

I just want to say it's a great collaborative effort we work very closely every day if we have any concerns or questions our team reaches out and we're able to resolve anything to get the matter process to get the checks out to our citizens and residents so manyy long is here doctor of Finance I just want to commend him and his team they've been putting in a lot of hours on this as well as your team so thank you very much thank you ma'am I appreciate it I have two items I'll try to be quick I'm tomorrow myself and representative Rainey Magor co-sponsoring a farm share distribution at the shops of Wiregrass mall that'll be a lot C which is located next to JCPenney if anyone in the audience knows of anyone who could use a bag of fresh produce please let them know again it's tomorrow 9:00 a.m. at the Shops at Wiregrass lot C which is next to JCPenney again this is in conjunction with farms care myself and represent a Maggard pretty sure everybody's hard work on this we have probably 40 to 50 volunteers are also going to come and help people around the community so I appreciate everybody in their participation again even it needs that assistance we were there for you and we'll be distributing that food in morning in the morning at 9:00 a.m. second one and this will be a little discussion on this from the board I wanted to bring this to you after having discussions with sorry the TV and Thomas are DMO director for tourism as well as our attorney the TDC so Paris diploma Council is required by Florida statute have two members from municipalities one being the most populous city which is a city of New Port Richey that's the most populous ain't one other municipality right now we have city a new port richey in the city of Dade City on there city of date City has been out there since 1991 just our conversations we want sure it's always been date city because Zephyrhills is actually the second largest city in the county right now Dade City being third sustaining that they they've expired so we as a commission either have to and on reinstating date City as a city and they appoint their person which he's been mayor Hernandez and I will say this mayor Hernandez is very involved does an excellent job on the on the TDC council I think she has brings a lot to the table a lot of great input but after talking to the County Attorney's Office I needed to bring this to your attention that it is this board's choice to either leave Dade City on or you have the option of bringing in another city if you like okay the question is based on the floor for all of you would like to continue leave Dade City on the first development council or did you want to consider bringing in another city absolutely I need to stay on the east side of the county so we need to pick a clear Zephyrhills cuz we already have one of the west side so I will listen to any input Commissioner Oakley I see your hands up yeah I'd like to see us move that to the

city of Zephyr girls and I thought I was told that the city is F Rios was the largest city in the county not too long ago but I don't know I don't haven't seen any numbers but they've been talking about that for this past year there's a biggest city in the county yeah we looked at it the other day or well the numbers I was given it was New Port Richey but I'm not saying I'm correct on that well I don't think you are but this is my opinion but we need to look at it and see but I really think there's a lot of great things every human so so here how about we do this for a second and I hate to bring them back but unless mr. Stein Snider you're in the room or if anybody else in the room can look it up real quick and see firm that statistic that New Port Richey is the Loch Ness in separate hills the second like this you can take somebody in there off in two seconds and look that up I'm not sure where you'd find the most current information except except census and a new and a question on that are they full-time residents or part-time residents that should we take that into consideration mr. chair yes go ahead mr. boss yeah I looked up the city's the latest census estimates I believe is 2018 on the cities they've not done the 2019 estimates yet and if I recall correctly because I looked up Zephyrhills last week for another issue poor new port richey just edges out Zephyrhills in 2018 but that does not mean that'll be the same in 2019 but if we have to look at what it but if it's the board's desire to have the number one and number two City one from east and west that it whether they've edged them out or not it would seem that you you know that that New Port Richey and Zephyrhills are that are the top two cities and and they are representing both halves of the county right yeah so again with you know talking to Elizabeth Blair in the county attorney's office this discussion needed to happen you know it's bored again Camille that's amazing jihad so and we appreciate her but again this is entire Board's decision so if mr. Oakley you know that Zephyrhills should have a chance you know I'm all for everybody else's input matter does it I have to be the mayor or can it be a councilmember deliver the idiot self I'm just asking full-on I'm just speaking that mayor Hernandez has done a good job it's just you know I've been there yeah but it's the city and in the city I would wait it makes the appointment which is typically the mayor makes the appointments for the city so these are free SF Rios has grown a lot and they're growing community and I thank their input it's time to change and bring something new to the board and happens every else be the representative yes commissioner and I'll share the sentiments I mean Camilla Mendez she does a great job great person very involved with it she's familiar with both sides of the county as well but I do think it's mr. Oakley making the recommendation I'll back it up okay

so I have a motion by Commissioner Oakley and have a second by Commissioner Mariano to appointing this see this yep let me defend motion okay in biker Mariana two point separate hills on the TDC now I have a discussion by Commissioner Starkey perhaps Camille could be appointed as another kind of member to the board that possible to the Commission statue there's there Elizabeth's not here but by statue the membership has to be made up of a certain amount of hotels and a certain number of individual businesses or in the tourism industry I don't mr. Steiner you back that up but I don't know what your vacancies are right now but she would have to qualify for a different vacancy other than the other than the city appointment well I agree when I was was chair of tourism Camille was a very valuable member on the council and but I I could see it Zephyrhills turn now so I support the motion so I have a motion again by Commissioner Oakley have a second by Commissioner Mariano madam clerk please call roll district one Commissioner Oakley I district three Commissioner Starkey I district 4 Commissioner wells or district five Commissioner Mariano district 2 chairman more hi motion passes 5-0 separate Hill is now at EDC Council and then I know the tourism team is listening in along with them and the two of you will need to work on drawing up the letter from myself to and biting Zephyrhills they'll need to make an appointment before the next EDC me with that then all I have we will take a break until what 30 we'll see you then [Music]