02.04.20 Pasco BOCC Meeting

[Music] good okay good morning everybody I'd like to call to order the passage County Board of County Commissioners ever weary for 2020 and I would like to remind everybody to please silence all electronic devices at this time if we could please rise for the invocation and pledge Oh merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may may be faithful stewards of your good gifts mr. clerk please call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley here district three commissioner Starkey yeah district four commissioner wells here district five commissioner Mariano here district two chairman Moore thank you ladies and gentlemen al is the type of public comment citizens were given an opportunity to comment on any item coming before the board or this public comment section the board also takes public comment on this I envy place on the future board agenda further business under their purview Oh a comment for public hearing items are taken during those individual public hearings beginning about 30 feet animal is also requested that we address the board that comments are not directed personally against any commissioner our team member but rather directed at the issues this provides mutual respect between the board and members and the public individuals speaking during public comment will be given three minutes to speak after stating your name and address for the clerk the timer locate on the podium will start a countdown after two minutes when people sound the timer will change from green to yellow letting you know that one minute remains after this time is up two beats will sound the light of the timer will change from yellow to red indicating the three minutes are up and you should close your comments at that time mr. Florrick anybody signed up for public comment today we have one person signed up so far Heather Stevenson miss teevan says we please come to the podium and state your name and address for the record thank you Stevenson 3/8 2 to 4 Thiele Avenue but I'm here with another property 88-89 wire road Zephyrhills started developing this property off a wire road and the entrance to the property is an easement that runs parallel to the field Avenue over the last world creation everyone has been weaving in and out of the field Avenue and into that easement never really using the entrance at wire road because it was encroached with Duke Energy's power poles trees bushes mailboxes and in the neighbor's property so anyway we cleared this property up and it became a free-for-all with that cleared up down there along with the field Avenue and folks are using everything theol Avenue that are not supposed to be using it so we put a fence up along where the mailboxes were and we're now we're now in litigation over it and we are looking for help from the county we've reached out verbally

and with emails and they've kind of gone silent in the legal department defining feel Avenue because of this weaving in and out we're trying to restrict who should use the easement that's the access from wire road and not everyone else that's all over theal Avenue and I'm in litigation about it because I can't get a fence up and I can't get the county to define fiel Avenue they say the appraisers office says that the county owns it the county says they've ceremonious never really ceremoniously accepted it while there's a stop sign a dead end sign and then the street name the ill Avenue I'm here for help to just get someone to define this steel Avenue for us and so I could put a fence up so since you mentioned that there is litigation involved I'm gonna buy my commissioners that we can't speak on that issue but I'm going to pass it over to the county attorney if he can directs maybe in the right direction they can go yeah we've we've spoken to Nicole my attorney has with emails and so on I have know Nicole in my office Nikki I'd have to get my phone to get the email go have your attorney reach out again to 2-month to me and we'll see where we can go from there but the county attorney's office can't give you legal advice I don't want legal advice I'm just looking for the opinion of theall Avenue I'm trying to put my fence up on the northern boundary of the property sure go ahead and as the county attorney suggested and have them reach out to your office in his office and then if you need to go to another department they can direct you that way too so I need your name and address - then he's with I know but I still for the record looking William like him same address as Ellie YK okay okay thank you I mean so again Ivan is gonna give you that suggestion to go ahead and follow the county attorneys advice to go that direction and they need to put you in touch with somebody else they can do that that's more than we've gotten thank you thank you so much have a great day I don't see a long line so is there anybody else that would like to speak to the board this morning seeing none we will move on thank you okay okay next we're businesses that consent agenda I have a full sheet with a few items on it today do we have any other items before I read those off commissioners do you like to pull okay so we have C 11 withdrawal on C 14 withdrawal C 16 withdrawal C 2400 C 24 withdraw see 26 pointer of IC 13 pull revised see 18 pull otherwise I'll entertain a motion to the rest of the side so moved Shanaya should have a second all in favor aye all - I'm fine thank you let's move down to C 20 good morning Marcus Smith County engineer we corrected the budget amendment for this item and have provided to you Morgan I'm sorry I don't think we could hear you just pull it back up a little bit okay Margaret Smith County engineer I've made a correction to the budget amendment and submitted to

you and revised form motion second all in favor thank you c26 Kavala good morning Mike Carvalho public infrastructure there was an error on the contract date as well as some clarifying language that was added to the compensation of the agreement c-13 warmest chair members of commission eric Breitenbach internal services c13 as a license agreement between the board and supervisor of elections to allow specify allow the use of specified county facilities for election purposes during the election cycle this agreement has been revised to add additional sites and locations respectfully request approval of the agreement that includes the revised locations and dates second well it was oakley I believe I don't think he said so how do you second still do so second second okay all favorite hi-c c18 just going to yeah mr. chair members of the board Todd Bailey chief information officer interim assistant County ministration for development services this item was revised for additional contract amendment and there's a mistake in the contract amount it was redistributed this morning for fifty nine thousand one hundred eighty two dollars and seventy two cents second motion a second old favor I have a walk-on I'm gonna have a motion to move morning mr. chairman members of the board Scott Katz and fire chief SEO Fire Rescue you know met fleet ambulance service is one of our licensed providers in Pasco County to provide ambulance transportation now the company is currently in the process of being sold to another owner and they desire to transfer their co PCN license to that new owner however in order to execute that transfer the EMS advisory board first must meet and either approve or reject that that measure however we found out yesterday that the closing date for that sale which is contingent upon that transfer of that seat vcn got moved up a week which is why I'm here this morning because it's kind of that closing is set to occur before the next regular scheduled board meeting so our recommendation to the EMS advisory board which meets on this Thursday is going to be to approve the transfer of the co PCN license so therefore this morning when I'm asking for is the board to grant a delegation of authority to the county administrator to either accept or reject the co PCN transfer following the meeting that occurs on Thursday with the EMS advisory board and then additionally should the sale fall through the original C OPC and license will remain in effect until its expiration date which will be next summer a year from the Sun good questions comments motion in a second all in favor aye thank you all very much we will start with or one fully update Pasco EDC good morning good morning commissioners and Bill Cronin and Pasco economic development council and mr. Mike bish of Pasco Economic Development Council it's my pleasure to present to you today our reports for the first quarter of this fiscal year 2020 but

also additional presentation and that is mr. Mike Bishop has joined us in the role as stake holder director of stakeholder relations he'll be working with both our internal and external stakeholders throughout the county our businesses those that were telling our story too but also locally and working with stakeholders like yourself Mike is no stranger to economic development or the Pasco EDC he's worked with us in our microloan committee he's also been part of our CEO roundtables and a successful startup here in Pasco County so he knows our business well and he knows our stakeholder needs and it's my pleasure to introduce him as he will be presenting in some of the future meetings to y'all Mike did you want to say good morning very excited to be a part of this I've been around for some time and excited to you know impact business in County and thank you so with that we'll move on to our first quarter report for our Memorandum of Understanding and these are the activities per our memorandum with the county that's funded through private industry as well as a general fund you notice on the on the title page we've got a photo of a recent win that we had I believe it was just last month maybe that the we had the announcement of one of our new companies bravado pharmaceuticals I'm sorry yes that's encompassed in compass sorry I'm sorry in compass we've had a lot lately unless we put their name up it's not okay important what we do with our technical difficulties today okay pipeline is still good and we've had three successes in the first quarter we've already had another win this corner so that's gonna bring that up to four the if you look at our pipeline our leads twenty two leads that have we've got forty three active projects so that makes me a little nervous in that we've got to continue to make sure our leads are bigger than our active project and the good news is we've converted a lot of those leads into projects that means they're truly looking here at Pasco County and we're working those projects so they are out kicking dirt and looking at sites here in Pasco a mix of the types of companies that we have here still really have me in the manufacturing which is is great for us because that's where we get our biggest bang for our buck and how we can work with our future talent pipeline as well to again the wins that we've had thus far that was first corner we're at two hundred and twenty five jobs in that first quarter our overall goal was a thousand jobs for the year so we're trending the way we should in terms of our annual goals business retention expansion so we do visits throughout the year working with our local companies and seeing what their needs are our goal for the year is ninety company visits and those are unique companies not going to the same company over and over and over again and we've got twenty nine already in that first quarter so again we're trending correctly there we still

need to do some work on introducing those training programs but that is through our BRE Department we also have our workforce connect department that are making those connections as well - we've attended 14 events on the face to face engagement side this is for local engagement telling people what programs are available for our local businesses and showcasing our programs and then external to our market nationally is the business missions and development missions and conferences which we've done five already in that first quarter this year you'll see a picture of our own Tom Ryan accepting an award at the IEDC annual conference that's the International development conference in that was for our marketing efforts where we received a gold award for our industry snapshots that is the agency our accreditation agency for economic development so I was a pretty big award for us and in recognition we've made three presentation to local business groups and again everyone is welcome to come to any of the brown bag lunch and learns that we do throughout the year it is for the general public to learn all the different things that we do and you get to meet all of our staff as well too but we also continue to work at rotaries and summits and local business networking groups doesn't have to be a brown bag yeah yeah yeah you can stop wherever I mean we want you to actually spend money in our local community so it's really nice that we see people stopping at the local restaurants and we moved those brown bag luncheons throughout the county so we'll do them at the incubator locations or at our main location in Central Pasco as well that's correct yeah there's no tax dollars involved in that brown bag buzzer so as far as marketing goes I mentioned marketing before we've earned 1.19 million an estimated earned media value just in the first quarter already we've been doing a really good job in terms of getting the message out our following has been up considerably over the last four years and if we look at some of the analytics from Google and the people that are actually hitting our our website you can see where we started at the beginning of this quarter and the activity since then and it also shows you which countries now we've got a few from Kazakh Stan I'll assure you that is not one of our target industries those are probably some folks that are out there looking for for nefarious type activities to break into websites but India UK Philippines maybe not so Canada Japan China Germany all aligned with our target markets where we're actually doing advertising emissions and they're coming back and checking out checking us out which is fantastic Facebook analytics I'm not gonna go every one of these numbers but the most important thing is that all of those increases were based on a baseline that was set in in this last year so last year we set a baseline this is over and above where we were a year ago so a year ago at this time total impressions we have eighty-nine thousand more total

impressions than we did last year at this time so we are we are measuring against that activity in not just showing you general numbers so this just showing increases and from the public private side from the investor's standpoint we have 80 total investors now hundred and eighty-five thousand raised on the private sector side in the first quarter our goal for the year our fiscal year goal is four hundred and eighty six thousand dollars which is is a higher than we've ever had before and for our goals but last year we are over 450 we think we can do it and we're getting a lot of great support from our private investors to new investors coming in design and construction innovations DCI you might know them as and also the Pinellas realtor Oregon central Pasco Chamber of of the realtor organization updates from leadership and this is some stuff that's coming up I want to tell you about our task forces you know that our Industrial Development Authority ID a task force is making some final recommendations working together with Dan miles and his team to determine what we can do in terms of setting up in AI da here in Pasco County we started the food hub task force last year there's so much activity we're gonna keep that for a year it's not going to sunset yeah my guess is we'll probably turn over a lot of that activity to the University of Florida as we finish that up as that seems to be their expertise and they seem to be the perfect party to take that as we finish finish it and then a new task force we started this year's the Pasco office industrial trends task force and that's really to tell the story about our sights and our buildings when you look at parable properties either along i-4 I 75 we don't compare with others well so if somebody wants to build a million square foot facility in on i-75 there is no comparable real estate for them to look at that has the same benefits that we do here so this task force will be putting together that study will be a third party that you all can present to the CB Ari's of the world the Cushman Wakefield's and others so that they have a non biased report that talks about the value of our properties here not just industrial properties but also existing buildings so they'll be an annual publication that will come out of that task force legislative updates us visits with all of our delegation have been underway our legislative agenda you know is is always a work in progress throughout the session if we need to make changes to it based on outcomes of committee meetings we will and we update our stakeholders of every Friday during session Pasco EDC strategic plan win 2.0 that's our next three-year strategy was adopted by our board of directors in December we have printed copies that are now available for dissemination and we're including that in our speaking presentations through the business community here upcoming events we've got leadership Pasco day on March 12th also April 2nd is our annual net Fest which will this is our 18th year of doing that

fest again this one has this is we don't do business at this this one is just fun it's about networking making sure everyone connects with each other it will be once again at Emerson Ranch at the Crystal lagoon April 9th another brown-bag lunch and learned that I mentioned earlier maybe I would just call it bringing a girl and lunch they learn May 8th and 9th Gro Pasco in the CEO forum I want to draw some special attention to that event this is the first time we're doing it you know we've got a pretty good tradition of doing successful events throughout the year and this is when we're adding this event is a two-day event will focus on both our CEOs in the community as well as our startups we'll have a series of speakers 12 breakout sessions dealing with everything from cybersecurity to Tromp and ownership and a special guest speaker coming at lunch which are we queued up to show the video so I'm gonna ask her to show the video advertising oops I'm sorry a little entertainment for you guys this morning I can picture what he looks like you can if you're gonna pitch a net you can picture it yeah sounds very familiar doesn't it there we go no yeah at home there I'll seem to please stay tuned I think that was in the old days there we go okay pretend you don't see that here that is that gonna go listen hi I'm Kevin Harrington inventor of the infomercial and an original shark from the hit TV show shark tank now I'm inviting you to have lunch with me during Gro Pasco the newest business event for equipping entrepreneurs and executives for growth hosted by the Pasco EDC's Smart Start program now I'm extremely excited and honored to deliver the keynote address to Pasco County executives business owners and early-stage entrepreneurs and share some of the best advice I have on how to get motivated build your brand and succeed in business grow Pasco will be an engaging and empowering event you'll be able to equip yourself and your business at 12 breakout sessions led by some of the best business minds in the area learn about social media future trends technology security marketing and more grow Pasco will take place on Saturday May 9th 2020 the Hyatt Place in Wesley Chapel Florida and I'm looking forward to seeing you there thank you all right so some exciting stuff coming again two-day event and this is for all of anyone that's in business leadership whether they're CEO level where they're startup Dobby sessions for everyone and of course the the luncheon should be a pretty informative and you may feel like you need to buy something at the end of it hopefully people will see that this is another way that passed we DC is trying to take care of our local business and help them I stopped there on the MOU before I head into the penny for Pasco presentation of it okay and then penny for Pasco I mentioned earlier the workforce connect program this is the landing page of our website for

workforce connect I would encourage you all to take a look at it at your leisure there's actually a tutorial tutorial that shows new users how to use the the data and the tools that are included in the page but we've already had a lot of users including our school systems career source and others that have tapped into this for reports the workforce connect program is all about aligning all of those workforce training programs in showing our employers where those entry points are to enter that spectrum of workforce training programs but also gives you some ideas of where that talent pipeline is we work together with all of our workforce training partners and skills K through 12 goodwill you name it if you're looking one day for an engineer you're gonna enter one place in this system if the next day you're looking for an admin you enter another place in the system and it's all designed to make it easy you know historically we do our red yellow green to see how we're doing with our our programs I'm not gonna go through every single one of them since you've got them in your your packet but I will go over the highlights for each of the programs out there ready sites we've got two project visits two active sites so far we've assessed five potential sites now this is in addition to the five that have already been included in our ready sites program which we are out there actively marketing now those are sites for industrial companies coming in that we're trying to recruit and we we market those nationally our goal is to have another site evaluated and available by the end of this year we've got five that we've identified as prospects into that program international program FDA on the FDI side in October we had admission to Shanghai where we hired a lead generator and set up leads and appointments China again one of those places of really really big market and with the trade negotiations going on believe it or not was a good time for us to visit because they could talk very openly and freely some of that trade agreement and I know that Commissioner Starkey it was was at the White House when I actually signed the trade agreement with China that is hopefully going to jiggle loose some of this some of the activity where we can start to see some of those seeds grow into something but we still have to wait for the Chinese to actually release funds on some of those industries for example they still aren't allowing IT to come over yet in real estate in those types of investments so it's a - it definitely is a bilateral conversation that we're having on on the investment side export trade mission we have one planning in progress in June of this year the state will be taking an export trade mission to Panama and we're gonna piggyback that with Costa Rica on the tail end of that so the first three days will be in Panama and then the last two days will be in Costa Rica we'll use the u.s. born and commercial service to set appointments for our companies for those events and you'll sit you'll see some collateral

information on that very soon as we recruit our local companies to participate workforce connect I mentioned at the beginning but we did launch the website we're really proud of it and we're already getting lots and lots of hits hits on them CEO program we've morphed that into the forum that we're talking about where has do more of those types of events throughout the year beginning getting people into CEO roundtables now is less there's less interest in that there's more interest in to going events rather than long term commitment so we always want to know what the CEOs are interested in so that we can design programs accordingly for them smart start we've added two more incubator members at West Pasco and trompin or Center we're working on that grow Pascal event and they started using our digital media studio so we have a podcast studio where if you're a local entrepreneur you can actually use our studio to do your podcast and that's been something that that ecosystem is really interested in they love it and it's mobile so we can move it from one side of the county to the other as needed as as well - I'll also add that we would our permission to actually take in food incubator members now at the stalling center so we are now licensed facility for food incubation in bringing in new prospects on that side as well too and then lastly our enhanced marketing we're preparing marketing materials for that fifth site that I mentioned we're still working on improving industry snapshots that's where we got the award we got the gold award for the industry snapshot I'm not sure we can do better as far as the awards go but that's not why we do it we do it to make sure that our prospects have really good valid information up today and then redesigning our brochure for first smart start so with that I'll stop and the rest of its in your packet and you can look at your leisure questions comments we're going to send that out we didn't I don't think we got this in time for the agenda ones published so we'll send out the powerpoints to you good job doing that what a good job thank you thank you thank you I'll give this to the clerk if you guys want it since the record give it to the clerk just seen it down there yeah thank you okay are two public services library services sponsored these policy morning I'm Nancy Frederick's this is Kevin Griffith we're both with Pasco libraries in February is love your library month and to celebrate we would like to announce two initiatives first we'd like to introduce a fines free policy overdue fines would be eliminated but we patrons would still have to pay for damaged or missing items hundreds of libraries across the country have already created similar policies these policies are most beneficial to people who are financially disadvantaged in students we prior to this meeting excuse me we provided you with a frequent a list of frequently asked questions and also some information about the fact that it costs us more to collect these fines than we

actually generate in revenue and Kevin's going to tell you about our second initiative public and just for the people in the audience I'm sure you have discussed with other commissioners too but when we sat down you mentioned what the cost was so give us that number how much did it cost us to collect versus what we were collecting okay it was three hundred and eighty six thousand dollars - it cost us between staff and accountants and going to the bank etc and we bring in about sixty seven thousand dollars in fines this past fiscal year so it's considerably more three hundred yeah no yes thank you and in addition to that between February 10th and March 10th we're going to institute an overdue materials amnesty program where if you have materials that are overdue no matter how long you can bring them in during that period and those fines will be forgiven and if anybody has any questions about that we'd be happy to answer it if not we'd like to thank the board so you're gonna get rid of that position the guy from Seinfeld somebody already asked us about this this morning the library detective I think I believe is called yes yes so we can look into that for you if you're interested we'd be happy to thank the board for continued support we appreciate it thank you people thank you both so we obviously do have to vote on this so to approve second like a motion to have a second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion thank you okay so we're gonna go ahead and move on to only business unless I missed an emergency walk-on mr. Oakley yes sir good morning everyone I guess everyone knows back in January 29th we all were participating in the statewide tornado drill and we're photos sent in by Twitter as show departments and in place the winners the top three winners of tornado drill are Dade City courthouse Commissioner Moore and I didn't even well we hadn't got that but what team we got the heroes there were three Dade City courthouse facilities management and the fire rescue they'll show the different pictures where they were located saving the best for last right here and that's how we hide in there we are that desk doesn't look big enough and we're actually we actually were able to get up out of there that's handy yep so we made that a hardhat so we had lying around so Danny put a fireman for instance yeah that shows your pecking order and ease but we all participate it's we're having to eat the table there's no windows in that room so we were protected but I don't want the rest commissioners we're doing that time but next item I have I want to reach out I've been talking about customer service over the last two or three weeks and and trying to make us more of premier County and I've reached out to different people I would like to thank Martha Smith her group group under Chris work Mike Pratt's Dennis Wabble jr. they did some good inspections out on development out in Wesley Chapel very professional very upbeat got the job done and I want to

recognize them for doing that and they're not the only ones there was others and the utility department actually went out for another inspection and the same kind of the marks came back to me that they were doing that so I'm very appreciative all of our staff and all that are working toward better customer service we owe that to our citizens we owe that to our developers that come in from out of state we need to welcome them and ask them what we can do to help them get through their projects and it's a different look than we've had lately and I think it's not one we haven't had before but we need to all work together and be more prepared do the right thing with our citizens are our customers that developers have come in to bill it's a very appreciative of all the work and the work that the changes over the last two or three weeks are pretty amazing and I think those go all the way into making us a premier County which we've been striving to do also I'd like to thank Tracy and Jordan were in the staff under Dan miles and his group that our agenda comes out so quick now that it's pretty amazing and that you know what's coming up and then two weeks actually got a copy of the agenda today for the 18th meeting I can't yes traffic okay actually came yesterday draft draft agenda yeah so but very good very good move I also like to thank Dan miles for reaching out to developer and that had issues and it was was in not just one department but I think two or three departments he got those staff members together and they worked that out so in the right manner and it it comes back to me I get a call that hey this is great this this is happening in your County so we all are part of this County where all should be very appreciative and happy these kind of things are coming out that way so it's very positive for the county in the way we're moving forward so I think that pretty well covers another issue but we can ask them my comeback I hold that one I I've been told that before when I was chairman I was in Tallahassee last week and we had a very good meeting with guys from de Oh looking on solutions for Willowbrook that Jack attend don't thank Danny for really working hard on on that and we are looking for the quickest way that we can get some money to help by those people out because that's really just the only solution there is to buyout 1414 homes and turn that into green space and and if you want to talk more about the walls in Tallahassee that the administrator from Hernando County handed me a copy of the aquatic preserves legislation that that was a surprise to some of us Commissioner Wells you may have known about it but no I found out about it about yeah days before you folks yeah so you know I would I know they're not listening to us but I wish commissioners and other counties would talk to us when they file legislation that affects our County and maybe good maybe bad but we would have like the opportunity to look at it and and I gave away my copy so I haven't even read it yet but I did talk

to Ben Albritton about it and who's the friend of mine and he kind of likes it so you know we need to get to work if there's things that we need to do if we need to weigh in on that at t Barda we have been talking about alternative kinds of transportation as you know we had the was it skytran guys come here and percent I've had two meetings that true on the drone air taxis already one with secretary Quinn and Joe Lovano and Commissioner long also has made some inquiries into that kind of travel and we think that the Tampa Bay area can be a great area for testing of those kind of drone air taxis because you can take off from our airport and fly over water to another Airport and so what's in in Dallas they're flying over they're working on flying over heavily congested areas and then they're up and um I think it's charleston doing some testing then of course you have the Europeans and other groups so we're we're looking at holding an alternative transportation summit similar to the way we had the resiliency summit a two-day summit that we're starting to put together that will Holly be in Tampa in the upcoming year so stay tuned for that I think that would be very interesting for all of us so I had a conversation with secretary Gwynn I've had a couple and Dan I'm gonna send you the emails he sent me but the we're looking for the funding to do the overpass at start on the Starkey gap and we've run into some challenges and so what is our next NPO meeting this week no no next week Thursday week so yeah I'm here for that yeah I'm for that but so I'm going to send my information over to you Dan and and who's the head of our everybody on now well I think senator Terry we're in the middle of hiring the mill hiring somebody right we're in the process of hiring somebody puts up haven't happened yet this week hopefully okay so I'd like to get what the two of you because I won't be here next week at the NPO meeting in we need to discuss this the funding challenges next are those PTO's planning in development - Commissioner yes hey I guess my question is if I recall right and Terry correct me if I'm wrong the 54 at Suncoast overpass in the 50 to get Suncoast overpass or higher priority than the Starkey gap over the pass that's a penny for pet those are penny for Pascoe projects this is a Sun Trail coast-to-coast project and the d-o-t was gonna look for some money for us the secretary because I didn't want to go - if we try and to get a legislative appropriation it's just gonna mess up our own transportation money so secretary Gwynn was looking for ways to help us because there people are are getting stuck out there in the middle of State Road 54 it's not a safe crossing at all so but we we don't have it listed right for them to look for money for us probably an MPO discussion then right time inertia is correct the priorities were the way you mentioned the Suncoast crossings so those are the priorities that I didn't mean right 54 is in design I think and gonna go next year so but

that's that's isn't that under a penny for Pascoe money I I don't know the answer to this yes we're all ourselves we're not asking for the help all right so moving on I'd like to get with the two of you um so it's come to my attention that we have no more money for wayfinding on the Sun on the coast to coast trail that we had set aside some money and it's all gone so I would really like to hear from whatever Department is gonna make them you're gonna tell me where the signage is gonna come for the coast to coast trail that is the county's responsibility each county has a responsibility putting the signage up for the coast to coast and then I am having surgery I have basal cell cancer on my nose and the only time my doctor appears to be able to fit me in to take off the whatever he's sewing on to my nose is the morning of our workshop so I've tried to get him to let me go to whatever hospital he's at in the afternoon because he does surgery that day in the afternoon and that he can take off whatever bandage he's sewing on to my nose but at this point it's in the morning so I want to be at that workshop and so I'm at ask if we can just stay fit along the time and maybe if I can't be there in the morning that we flipped it to the afternoon what's the date of that workshop then 25th 25th when do we have to notice it by well the week before her no Wednesday we've been putting the agenda on Wednesday the weeks before and the next week yeah we want you there so yes reflects we need either you know as you don't move it into between that March 10th and 18 I'll be going see her she was asking if we could be flexible when we here move the fact it's either right now it's a morning workshop music we're done by lunchtime maybe we need to go well this will be a long discussion so it's a full-day workshop it'll be I would assume this is gonna be a long discussion what what is on the workshop right now we're gonna give you the revenue projection for the next fiscal year and then we the discussion about multifamily and mobility fees yes exactly definitely want to be there I know we can we can started at noon or 1:00 well let us get here let's make it easy you get back to have to get your assistant get back to us my office and then we'll and then we'll schedule it perfectly okay when you find out yeah yeah we'll just afford what okay cuz I I'm heading out my son-in-law going from the major to lieutenant colonel so I'm going to his pinning ceremony I'm going to Washington [Applause] [Music] okay I guess that's all I have mr. wells yes and I'm gonna follow up with what Katherine said but I just like to say we have that community cleanup and Midlake over the weekend last year last time we had 100 and over 180 tons picked up this time it was 160 s the number is going down but it was a great event I mean it was great to see the community come together and they got

a grant to help feed the employees and folks that are dropping things off it was just a um it's it's really cool to see and I know Bay news and I was out there and they spent a lot of time talking to the employees which is cool because they've been there all three times and listened to the employees see the residents that they've seen every time and so was need to hear the perspective from our team and that you know they did an unbelievable job Mike I mean seriously they're they're awesome you know code was out there too but it was it was great I think it was Public Works and powers team that's a I think that team was our team of the year it was yes but a lot of the guys I had seen it here so just want to throw it out there I know again it's just neat to see it would get involved with community like that so talking about what Commissioner Stark you brought up and I'm assuming Commissioner Mariano is gonna discuss it as well because I know that three of us in that conversation but as far as this aquatic bill I'll give you guys copies if I could so I myself and Keith you know I heard about this beginning of last week and from when I understand Commissioner Starkey is the the commissioners and the other two counties had no idea about it either until it was actually filed so I was on a conference call last week myself and Keith Wiley with citrus county their County Administrator their team commissioner Cunard which I know then they spoke to Hernando County a lot of the same questions you know basically what happened here team as we got carved out when I say we Pasco Hernando citrus got carved out of aquatic preserve back when they did it so every other County this part of this aquatic preserve except for the three of us which was do because of duke energy's en and citrus Indiana Pasco so long story short and again keep in mind this bill I'm a little bothered that we weren't even aware of it I know there was some stakeholders that said they weren't favored this windy lawman being one from past but there's very few from Pasco there was a lot from citrus with the with the guides and so forth but very little with Pasco so I know I reached out to Wendy and said hey are you actually in favor then she was like whoa well I was until I started reading the language so I I kind of have some concerns and here's some concerns that I have is talks a lot about dredging I think that it's going to restrict us as far as trying to do work not to mention the dredging that Commissioner Mariano has talked about I think it's going to limit us with boat ramp expansion and I'm not really basically in my opinion what this does is over regulate the process we already have to go through four docks where we approve it we give a permit and they stop to go through Department of any there's a process already this just makes it another layer and this is going to be a board that's appointed by the governor I'm not saying that that's good or bad but some some questions I have like if you go to I don't know if you want to look at it

might expecting you guys to read it now but if you go to like line 57 you know minimum dredging and spoiling of submerged lands may be authorized may be authorized for existing public navigation projects as public necessity or for you know preservation of preserve according to the expressed intent of this section again this stuff's already regulated so by DEP and Army Corps you know I know Hernando County put a change in wording that says that they would like to see his grandfather and the project's approved by the state expenditure plan for the Gulf consortium that Commissioner Mariana is on we don't want it to affect those projects but I just again I really wish that we would have had an opportunity to speak on this you know because it's already it's already gone it's up today in the house it's already been passed in the Senate second committee yesterday so it's getting close to come making it to the floor and that we haven't even talked about I just it seemed to me like the cart was before the horse on this I'm not saying that it's not a bad idea I mean I think if we can have more protections for seagrass and and it all comes from the Pew foundation those are the ones that that were pushing it and those are the ones we spoke to on the conference call and they citrus county had some very pointed questions they kind of spoke a little vague on it but said they can make changes but it's just what gets me is we're having this conversation if it's already been submitted that doesn't make sense to me but as a board I think that I would love to see maybe all of you review it let us know your opinion and that I think we can decide okay do I'm assuming we can decide after it passes I don't know how that works for I need to get with Ralph or does it need to be done because Ralph think it's gonna be approved like tomorrow boats in rules right now yeah so it's going through t committees and the Senate hasn't been heard by the house I don't think at all moved he saves me hurdles we heard today in the house so the house is gonna hear today yes so I just again I think that our opinion while I know our opinion matters again Keith knew nothing about it I don't know nothing about it citrus and Hernando County knew nothing about it until it was filed so I just think it would have been nice if they would have sat down with each you know County because again there is some good things in here but the last thing we want to do is in my opinion to over-regulate but also we we want to protect you know another another thing that kind of bothered I mean like together groups which I generally don't get round from the phone real quick and just go mine and find out it who's gonna hear this in the house today that way my suggestion would be very bright you need to call House members and I just like here's another mic burbot I know Commissioner Mario is gonna say apparently like here's another thing that I don't want to say bothers me but it's a concern I've spoken to FWC they knew a little bit about they're

still going to have their jurisdiction but it talks about being uh protect all these things my thing was like no how are we gonna get more funding they have additional funding that can help us how they gonna regulate it how they going to enforce it I mean I like some that things are saying but they don't have a staff as far as DEP now to to do it and another verbage I had concerns with it says you know I'm line 123 again I think you all can review when you get a minute but regulation of human activity within the Preserve and such a manner as not to interfere reasonably with lawful and traditional public use the preserve such as sport fishing commercial fishing boating and swimming I don't know how they even have any regulatory that's FWC so it concerns me that that verbage is even in here it says that construction replacement or relocation of a seawall is prohibitive there's in like I said there's several things that are concerning I think it looked from the big picture I think it looks good from the outside but when you start digging in you talk about docks there's another layer of bureaucracy you have to go through to get a dock done which I don't know that that needs to be again I like the protection of seagrass I think that makes sense but again I still have some questions but with that out Commissioner yes do we know who's the sponsor in the house first of all yeah who is dr. Masaru oh he is yes he's from citrus did you find any lemme let Amy from the mic Andy Taylor legislative aide to chairman more it is in the house agricultural and Natural Resources Subcommittee at noon today so we we have that Ralph also said that the bill sponsor is happy to work with us Commissioner Wells you may have been aware of that already that the bill sponsor and the house is happy to work with us the sheriff I could I could say there are so many things inhibitor negative potentially bad supposedly we're supposed to well was supposed to get a map from what this aquatic preserve actually is when I talk to represent admissible about this bill going for this is we get dredging projects going up and down the coast won't affect like a Hudson channel or a Gulf harbors but when I look at here is like West Port driftwood that haven't been dredged before officially I may have some big issues with that if I'm gonna go do Sun West mine or even any other project that goes out into the Gulf a mile or two I'm in the know that I preserved they could be affecting what goes on there even want to try to straighten out the leisure Beach channel which has a dangerous job to what they want to gets fixed out that would come under the same jurisdiction sea walls which want to see done don't want people to protect their property this is creating a whole nother bureaucratic mess we don't know the thing that bothers me the most with the way this thing was brought through is us not getting notified at all and we get commissioners that are right there on the coast we're gonna boating camp in

here and nobody has been involved even you know with all the work you've done for scalloping for this area and all of a sudden we don't know how that's going to affect things that we're gonna need to expand our infrastructure coming up with boating so this clearly is not in our best interest I've asked him to just pull us if we could pull a toe pull us out let's go look at it maybe we'll get it involved in it next year but for right now for our protection for us to go look at it from everyone I've talked to they don't like it they had by the way like 12 people listed in Pasco County business people that said they were for the project when I called them each up that floor that I knew well described him what was going on when we're looking at they had no idea was gonna be this this offensive today to the county so their support there they'll actually pull it back so I think the best thing for us to do before noon time there's just get a simple letter just asking us to pull it back we'll consider it next year and make that letter and let let me Ralph go bring it to them and let it read it into the record that Pasco County want me to pull out of it at this point in time until we have a full review of it because none of us were notified and I think it's going to be that strong that simple let's do it right now that's a plan but have it ready for Ralph let him draw it up so the Chairman can sign it and just get it get it right up to him so he can bring it to that meeting and be a speaker be listed as a speaker saying you want to be pulled out at this time we will not informed of it we're not we're not comfortable with it with all that we have going on the county it'll be a motion and I second discussion for a letter never letter by the chair and I I don't disagree but I get I think there is still way to work the verbage I would really love to see all three counties say hey you need to carve us out we don't well then there isn't anything and well that's my that's my point I mean Citrus County had the most input by turning crafting you know well that's again I and Hernando's got some concerns there they may be doing the same type of thing we're talking about doing right now so we may not be alone but either way we need to protect our coasts and again another bureaucratic bad implication for us are better effective us is not we want to see happen would you take a quick stand on it and again if I had the map now you want to somehow get a letter from it get a hold of your assistant stop the letter draw it up real quick emo it to this office here will sue it let us sign you have the Senate of everybody knew I could do okay all in favor Oh Jack who are we under are we under wonder you Mike yeah I can yes no hello yeah let's keep it going one more thanks sorry I have people here that we got here right hold on I need to see how to word it sorry Jeff reminding me or if you want just go ahead jack and then I'll come back look good if you don't

mind Jeremy just some real quick all right so as far as I was able to come up think of leisure beach in my mind first but so leisure beach signal Cove I was at the meeting last night there they're gonna come to the GP restart me first one my heaven all in quite a while to talk about the dredging the one is Tuesday Thursday Thursday 6 p.m. the government center so they're gonna they're gonna come on just you know see it there they're excited about the dredging that we have going on across the bullet I take Katherine Commissioner Starkey was phenomenal working with CEO I mean when we were up in DC and she had brought up this thing about the lakeside woman's ever with the caverns going on out there she was phenomenal bringing it through driving it through getting everybody's attention they're driven it through to go to the coast of Florida and Danny was incredible and helping coordinate the meeting up there and the meeting went very well when I supposed into too many details with it but I just want to you know Thank You Commissioner start be fellow for the great work you didn't with that and it's gonna lead to another conversation from another conversation about we may have some possible funding for the leisure Lane area as well there's a source of funding that could be out there from Hurricane Emma that may let us be able to go tear the rest of the properties relocate the people pay for the really relocation in this project put the infrastructure and set all the groundwork in to go forward Mike Sutton was up in Tallahassee today was trying to set an appointment up couldn't change his other place to make that work but they're gonna be going back up within a couple of weeks and put a full presentation on we could have a great success in that area really quick if we get this funding together commissioner I broke through there last week and it is worse than when we started it is just reminds me of the hills in Caracas you know thirty years I mean is that people are passed out on the Lots they brought in old furniture and they're sitting there and they're lighting fires everywhere and they're just there must have been 40 people just living on those Lots just right there in plain sight and dumping everywhere I've never seen anything so bad so I just want to say I am willing to just been dip into whatever we need to just fence it up clean it up we cannot let that fester like it is right now I saw I think there's three homes under construction yes and which is great I mean I'm willing that was a loan to Habitat like I'm willing to write it off whatever we need to do I think we need to throw some resources whatever we can get that cleaned up I think it's attracting more people right now no I mean have a test and a great job cleaning up all the volunteers that have done all the volunteer time that's out there has been a great start we do have that infrastructure got to go deal with and I think now we get a path forward I think to a County Administrator we need a grappling truck

doing out there yeah and picking up all the couches all the stuff they've made a couple morals in one of the years a bed of fires a couple of people died in there etc they put memorials in they would trash everywhere yeah we need to go full steam in there don't clean that thing out there get the grappling tourniquet code out there get the Sheriff's Department so everybody's protected as well I mean literally those people I think I told the story I was I was went to the Rope Center trying to get some homeless people to go to work and they were all out working so nothing who could actually I couldn't hire anybody do any work and there was a following weekend being down there these guys are laying out yeah the doing the drugs doing the drug right nobody's trying to help themselves guess what the lady that beside that had to go put a fence up that her bit broken that was on NBC we need to go take care and protect the neighborhood right I mean if it needs cleaning out in behind this is a big ditch since maybe behind there mr. Karbala let's go look at cleaning that ditch out too because that's another way where they can hide and let's go trim all the brazilian peppers it in the whole canal that we have jurisdiction over if we can go clean it up that'll only help the whole area we need to go full steam add that we're not gonna be having people sitting on the open turn up the neighborhood it's unbelievable and I would say that those piles of trash that are in there are probably breeding rats I can't imagine there isn't a huge rat problem out there so I I just you know I'm willing to loan ourselves some money to clean it up I just want you know one someone comes up with solution I'm all-in I'm quickest ting do need a motion mr. Bhalla we just take care of it no we're gonna getting out there until we need to do any cleanup over there right now habitat is building a bunch of houses but I don't think they can build I don't think that one agency's gonna be able to build it all fast enough so I want to know is there another agency we can get some land to that could build maybe the multifamily part that Frank design you've got some townhomes or whatever let's bring in another agency not just habitat so we can move faster and I've had that type of conversation as well they can go that way the infrastructure is going to be the key we're going to try to change them from septic to sewer and go through this that's got to get done first homes they're willing to work with other people in the area too but I tell you down in Pinellas I get a project like this they're doing 16 a year I mean there's ribbon cuttings all the time so this is not like a the Old West Paschal where they do one or two a year these guys can do 50 60 all right so in two years time we could actually clean this whole thing and master plan like Frank Starkey was down there so it's a mess of piling up their septic sewer that's one point five million it's one point five million to buy the Lots and I did talk to Mike son and go try to

buy get all the options you can for all the other properties and try to like get them on paper because he didn't want to do it in the sense of he's the head of the West Pasco Pinellas great great guy he's full steam ahead trying to get stuff done so he'll he'll do what he's going to go back up now take the next two weeks and try to get those options because he said I can probably get more but I can have somewhere to go with this project so I think now that we've got the potential to make this thing fly he's excited about going and trying to get all those of the properties we can out there and I was serious about even if the county buys builds it given one of those houses to a deputy and parking him there yeah it may be a code enforcement officer cause we actually have our guy ready to go yeah no thank you for bringing for bringing that through and I suggest you guys when we're on the east west side again Commissioner Moore know right through you can't believe it central Italy that's it's it's definitely not good on another note first construction goes you've heard me talk about the floor trying to bring code back in to do our 50% rule I guess our surrounding counties not just Pinellas County else around the county is actually a program to place where if you pull a permit to do certain work on a permit once that permit expires that 50% of what restarts again we don't do it that way and I would like that staff come back with a presentation to us how we're doing it how Pinellas is doing it and all the other counties or others are doing it because I think we're killing ourselves on the coast and is it something that they should be able to do pretty quickly so there's direction if we could have a presentation on that all right good and I know Commission Moylan chairman will you and bring some up on I would like to say maybe it's time for us to look at all these stormwater approaches we have work wood feet with Swift land let's maybe get a presentation as far as where we're at with each one and so you pulled the Forest Hills one to get it kind of ready for keep us in qualifications but I just want to kind of a fully up there Thank You mr. biles yes I have a just couple quick things one when a shout-out to the clerk that clerks clerks for cure president elmosaurus was a check for over eighty four hundred dollars last week as a donation to animal services so mr. clerk thank you in your organization for that well and we'd like to recognize that was dr. paul o'neill started clerks for the Cure and was a not-for-profit that she headed up which says in that sense wound down and this was a dist final distribution to animal control along with thomas promise and some other not-for-profits to winding down that organization but again our people were happy to be part so thank you for that just other update the board we're continue to partner with our nonprofits

human services expanded their case management with volunteer way and we're running a case manager now without of their congress food bank location so again can we continue to work with our nonprofit partners to expand the services and help out those those that need those services so hey that's all I had so I'm good thank you yes sir members of the Commission clerk Alvarez Souls wanted me to share something a couple of things with you we hosted together with the education and recycling department of utilities two big shreds as we call them we could go Saturday the 25th over in New Port Richey which resulted in about five and a half tons 265 vehicles and even in the rain here in Dade City last Saturday we had 83 vehicles and an additional two tons all part of celebrating data privacy day on the 28th of January so I'm very happy those were annual events for the clerk's office and speaking of annual events coming up this week from Friday here in front of this building in a historic courthouse will be our annual Valentine's Day wedding ceremony so if you know someone that's looking for the opportunity to get hitched we'll take care of them they need to go by in and get their license and and make arrangements at the clerk's office also on Saturday the March the 14th both at the West Pasco Government Center offices and the East Pasco Government Center Offices of the clerk is passport day it's more open on a Saturday to assist families and getting passports especially the upcoming summer travel season coming up and they need to bring their identification citizenship evidence and all of those items and they can get more information on that and we'd like to invite the commissioners to be part of two again traditional days the clerk's office has been sponsoring in conjunction with the District School Board and is pleased to present the 5th annual student inspired art exhibits and these are the art items that you see in the judicial centers those will be on Tuesday the 24th here indeed or at the West passcode Judicial Center that's Tuesday the 24th at 5:00 p.m. and then on Thursday the 26th at the Robert E Sumner Judicial Center here in Dade City and the art gets refreshed every year and it's amazing the number of folks that go by and truly enjoy the art it takes it kind of takes the edge off of some otherwise difficult buildings to be in for most folks so we thank you thank you sir all right hmm before I move on do not leave if you don't mind them when I'm done we have to take our other pictures so the team is ready to take those the first one I'm going to ask my fellow board members motion to waive fees our local chapter of American Cancer Society is hosting concert for the Cure once again like they do every year on February 5th Saturday February 15 from nuna6 when a lynx Heritage Park offers these benefits uncut Relay for Life team and as usual as the death of those last five years request we can waive the park fees for the event if I could have a motion please so moved I have a second all in

favor aye opposed same side passes thank you real quick if you weren't able to be at the hardhat tour we do have a little bit of drone footage we're gonna put up real quick so you can take a gander now things are moving along so tourism along with facilities Ajax and rad sports posted a hardhat tour for the media in the morning and we had one in the afternoon for some local folks and as you can see it's coming along nicely so I want to thank Ajax for opening the construction site for that day because they had they still are going to work with that held them up a little bit so we appreciate them and just for the record we've really haven't you know they haven't gone full force in promoting the facility just yet but they have begun and they've already have six events booked with 20 over 2400 room nights confirmed and I did have a discussion with rad and they had contracts for about five more events that already went out so hopefully those will come back soon I don't facility I don't think there's any solar I'm aware of so I know we're not live right now because of spectrum issues but anyway watch's is in the future if you're looking to host any type of cheerleading or basketball or gymnastics tournament we're open for booking it looks great doesn't it it's huge it's a boy you go inside that place as you saw I mean it doesn't do it justice from looking at its it's not that will hopefully go under construction within the next six soon so you know I don't know you and yes I have permits Middle's info review do we know what kind of sporting events devoured the vote I don't have which one's a bit booked in front of me I cannot remember do you remember anything yeah sorry any remembers Andy Taylor legislative aide the Chairman more commissioner just off the top of my head and I have that list I can share they have a volleyball tournament next Martin Luther King jr. weekend there's a basketball tournament I think that was the biggest cream night attractor Christmas this coming year there's a few other volleyball evolves so FAR's but maybe three or four of the events different tournaments but I have that list I can share it so as you can see things are going great so won't be long right we're looking at early mid July as long as the weather agrees with this so thank you for that well I think we're good so here's something very important we had talked in the past and we received an update in May from our Census Bureau representatives since then our staff has been working hard on the census efforts to make sure everyone is counted and obviously Paso County gets their fair share of the next decade so we want to take care of that obviously and do the best we can for our residents so we as a county we need to be ready to commit forward and move forward with our complete count committee we talked about that briefly during that meeting and I think you remember I suggested that the Commission appoints those representatives had a meeting with the team last week initially it was thought

they wanted maybe 6 to 8 people my suggestion was how about we move it to 10 and allow each Commissioner to appoint two people from their district that way we have equal representation across the district so instead of 6 to 8 I suggested 10 each Commissioner do to make sure those appointments are in your district that you appoint and there's a and there's a and there's a letter there should be at your table so again it'd be called a complete count committee in the role that helped develop and implement a creative census awareness campaign that will motivate each person to respond to the 2020 census obviously and especially in our hardest to reach areas in groups throughout the community community committee members must be aware that there's a time commitment which they will serve until initially until April 1st of 2020 moving forward and after that there'll be some would think some some times where they'll be called into action if I'm not correct what I do have are representatives from the Census Bureau so if somebody would like to come up here if you're ready you can briefly detail my fellow commissioners again exactly what this committee will do but I will ask you they'll implore you to bring those two names to the next board meeting and then we'll have for approval just take into account that again we will need to all accept those members make sure those are people that we all feel and will be comfortable with the last thing we want is debate on members that we all point on the dice good morning commissioners I'm Jeffrey Jenkins executive planner long-range planning I've been appointed to be staff liaison to the complete count committee and just to briefly go over what we've done so far we've had quite a bit of discussions with ms Channel Lloyd who came before this body before with some information on the census she is the state of Florida's liaison from the census we've also had conversations with mr. Ryan Boni which mr. Boni is actually a Pasco resident but he is a regional representative of the Census Bureau and we also also have two gentlemen in the audience that I'll recognize mr. thomas carroll and michael radford who are also Pasco residents and they're involved with the actual count and the hiring of the census workers etc so they actually are responsible for the count and it's our goal to create the committee to make sure that we are including everyone because that's vital for mostly for money and we're trying to raise the percentage of response for the census so so far we've been working with the local census count people and we've already identified areas that were under counted in 2010 so we've also been working diligently on marketing materials and doing the back background work so that once the appointment is made by the Commission of the representatives we we can roll this out quickly and as was stated previously the the count days actually April 1st and then there's various opportunities afterwards when they the census work workers were

actually do door-to-door canvassing etc so if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them I think if you look like pay three commissioners two more the complete count committee that's something you can afford to your possible committee members or you can read that out to them you know says CeCe's CCC's utilize local knowledge influence and resources to educate communities and promote the census through a locally based targeted outreach efforts CCC's provide a vehicle for coordinating and nurturing cooperative efforts between travel state and local government communities in the Census Bureau and the CCC's helped the Census Bureau get a complete count in 2020 through partnerships with local governments and community organizations obviously again there's something else that's on the line I think we all know in addition to funding there's the possibility of additional congressional seats obviously in the state and with our growth that's happening in this area but I can only assume that there's a chance that could be close by if we do a complete count so it is very very important we can get additional representation in this area it's not a bad thing thank you thank you I appreciate any questions I'll ask if you could bring those to the next board meeting for approval and we can move forward so with that we're going to be adjourned until hello okay well let's go fast I need pictures and we got to make it do what we're supposed to do for this situation we got going on that starts at noon so like two minutes please howdy mr. biles just told me that he had talked to Ralph Flair about what we do and made the motion on he says he recommends we soften up so when they read this to you this sounds okay the ones who can ever help just do this please the Pasco County Commission was not informed of this bill ahead of its introduction Pasco County is concerned on its ramifications to our coastline we are willing to work with the sponsor before the next year next reading of this bill I'm finally that okay so again you got limited time here so is your some in your office riding that up now okay okay with that intent right so my Commissioner Wells had something or Commissioner start he said yeah right quick so Mike karbala apparently did a killer presentation at the resiliency summit and I keep hearing it from everybody and I wasn't able to get there and I don't know if you were there on time or as we add like the MPO meeting or something no you weirdo I would like to have mr. Karbala give that presentation to myself and then I am there I I think I love along with the rest the board are very pleased with the efforts of the colocation at Starkey ranch District Park in the library and the school district but I don't know of any other project like it in the county and that was something that's really important to me when I was on the school board Raigad

and I started the colocation committee we tried to do it at Connaughton it didn't really work so I want to I want to I would like us to reach out to the school district and say that we we just want to you make sure that we're doing more projects like this as they plan their schools and we will and other other amenities nocturno Speedos Planning development thank you for the comments commissioner we do work with the school district and current planning particularly when we're working on new developments and beauties to co-locate the facilities for schools parks libraries so and a more recent project that has that sort of coordination has to do with project Arthur we did that quite a bit in that project no it's just the proof well because I thought they were doing charter schools in project dr. but if there are some schools in punch of gutters my recollection at least okay excellent I hope they go to the level of what we've done and would love another community center like what we're building I think that's gonna just be outstanding citizens okay those are my two things commercial Wells well so just real quick there's a quarter-acre lot that we owe and a we've owned and we used to maintain it now in Moon Lake so I would like to I spoke to Keith about it parks has it but we haven't done anything with that I would like parks to be able to start maintaining again so the kids and the community can use it so I just need a motion to accept maintenance of the park parcel on Poplar Street and Jerome drive has to pick sit on the Moon Lake Estates unit thirteen plant recorded him plat books six page seven that would be my motion part now what is it right now it's just a second discussion our second it's it's a lot that's in Moon Lake that we used to maintain it's been a long time and there's a lot of kids that are right there just it's it would be nice to have like a picnic just a passive little something he's on board as you know it's got to go out there to cut the grass of the other Park in the house okay okay so a motion a second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion passes thank you do not leave so I need the commissioners we could get down here and then I'm on the county attorney and kind of administrator to stand by because they will jump in after we take the five of us well you can talk now while he's setting up okay so I don't know if all of you heard about Henry McHugh who who lost everything a trailer fire this time last week 90 year old World War two veteran lived him in Lake so I had an opportunity he literally lost everything he got out of there with his pants and a shirt that was it so I've been working with the family we're raising money through a powering Pascoe's veterans he had no insurance just a great man I met him out there with his family last weekend very humble obviously as I find most veterans he doesn't want to ask for help but we're doing everything we can so ultimately I've got everything to be donated we really just need to find a mobile home for him it's gonna be the

easiest way zoning and permitting wise to put back on the park he does not want to go into assisted living he wants to be back on the same lot so I'm just throwing it out there if anybody knows of a used mobile home I know we were talking to the owner of BJ's and Hudson he's trying to help but that's the only thing we need and then everything else is gonna be donated from Lennar it's a bunch of different business owners in Pasco it's pretty exciting so I'm just wanting to bring to the board if you happen to know anybody that where the community if you know anybody that has a used trailer mobile home that we could you know we'll come pick it up and we can I don't know who here knows where we are with it but we're buying out 12 mobile homes of Alfred Parkway and I think we're getting close to that so maybe we can get one and move it that may take a few months well the meets code right you don't want to put in something that that's the biggest 95 or 96 we changed the other year well you'd have to get up to win again I've got folks that are willing to help make that happen I just I wanted to make sure you are aware it's an idea that there so you know it's not a bad idea either if we can find out about that damn kind of where we're at okay where's the trailers he's staying at his friends house so he has a place to stay but he really wants to be back there and then like where's he living in a trailer yeah by himself and might have said he lost I mean the community's come out I would tell a lot of stories but they're I know the news channels have gotten with me but we're trying to let off a few nonprofits do some things for him first but just a great man I mean just it's very it's terrible thanks for all you're doing commissioner and so take two minutes and freshen up for you [Music] good afternoon everyone I like to call back to order the Pasco County Board of County Commission meeting of February 4 2020 and I like to remind you please silence all electronic devices at this time and now we'll proceed with the public hearing agenda starting with item p1 ordinance mad at our clerk mr. clerk today do we have proof right of p1 good afternoon mr. chairman commission members item p1 is PDV 2003 to 7 this is actually on your sire attachment the agenda memo is for a continuance which has continued to february 18 20 24 to County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 a new port richey thank you ma'am but is since it is was published I do have to ask for public comment I will let you know if you do speak today to this item you will not be able to speak at the date it is continuous would anybody like to speak to p1 c9 out to entertain a motion to continue no to continue some motion in a second all in favor aye aye opposed same sign motion passes thank you on item V 2 we have publication on January nineteen of 2020 and the Tampa Bay Times item p2 is PDD 2002 six five it's an ordinance amending the boundaries of the Astoria Community Development District pursuant to chapter 190 florida statutes

and a many amending pasco county ordinance number fourteen seventeen providing for miscellaneous provisions providing for an effective date on the site and we're asking you to adopt the ordinance by roll call vote thank you any questions from the board this time before I ask for public comment see none I have nobody signed up and anybody like to speak to item p2 item p2 this is a roll call so on your take a motion so ii have a motion of a second mr. clark district one the commissioner oakley i district three commissioners darken i district 4 commissioner well hi district five commissioner mariano i district 2 chairman more hi motion passes 5-0 thank you okay so moving on to public hearings [Music] you'd like to mr. chairman we have publication of this matter in the Tampa Bay Times on December 27th of 2019 mr. Kenney attorney would you like me to read the procedures thank you there are two rezoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition that rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda during the meeting otherwise on rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion in vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi judicial public hearings law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition an application is insufficient of this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code mr. clerk would you like to swear them in on the I guess I'm a little bit confused are we own we'll see there's there was no consent today so go ahead and we'll go ahead and swear so if anybody like to speak to the remainder of the items that are on the in Genoa ask that you please rise and be sworn in if you're going to speak you have to be sworn in now if you do not if you're not sworn in you're not able to speak raise your right hand and the clerk will swear you in do you swear or affirm the testimony you will give in this matter is the truth so how if you're God thank you okay miss Hernandez again we don't have anything on the consent today so go ahead and pee through the continuous at mp3 PDD 2002 to 3 this is

a continuance of February 18 2020 PCC meeting at 1:30 p.m. a new port richey okay so p3 I know some people were here to speak to p3 but this okay is a continuance if you'd like to waive your right to speak at the next meeting you can go ahead and speak now you know I'll entertain a motion for continuance somebody motion second second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion passes thank you proof was noted on the front end but it was published in the 10th day times on December 27th before on this matter also published in the Tampa Bay Times on December 27th of 2019 good afternoon Tami Schneider Planning and Development Department you pull that mic up just a little bit police soldier there you go yeah that better yes ma'am awesome okay Evans Covington MPD pd d 27 t 436 here's a location map there's fort King runnin north and south and then there's Covington Road running east and west proposed as a rezoning request from an AC agricultural district to an MPD master plan unit development district to allow 193 single-family residential dwelling units on approximately two hundred seven point eight one acres here's their master plan presently the subject site is vacant or unimproved the subject property lies within the countryside area the villages of Pasadena Hills is not within one of the villages and due to the rural character of the area there are no public utilities currently therefore each lot shall have private well and septic which shall be permitted through the appropriate agencies and as there are no public utilities right now the specific condition has been added to address the design construction and maintenance of an alternative water source for fire rescue safety purposes which shall be coordinated with a Fire Rescue Department and approved prior to construction plan approval in the Pasadena Hills planning a policy committee heard the item on the consent agenda at the December 18th 2019 meeting several citizens did make comments and voiced concerns including roadway conditions paving requirements and congestion and those concerns were discussed as were the MPD conditions and the villages of Pasadena Hills requirements which determine construction timelines and parties responsible for the construction and access and transportation improvements the committee believed the concerns were adequately addressed than you Nana unanimously voted to recommend approval to the BCC mr. Andrew Pittman was absent and mr. Emmett Evans recused himself and the proposed request is consistent with the Pasco County l DC Chapter 400 subsection 4 Oh 2.2 zoning amendment and PUD Master Planned Unit development and with the applicable provisions of Pasco County Comprehensive Plan and so with that PDD recommends approval with conditions thank you before I move on to the applicant applicants representatives anybody from the board have any questions or comments at the time for staff seeing none I would invite the

applicant of the applicants representative to come up and speak mr. Toole Thank You mr. chairman Joel tutu and Associates and I represent Evans properties Inc which is the owner of the property ladies and gentlemen just a few brief background points since I believe there's some members of the public here who may speak this property is has always been within the village of Pasadena Hills district boundary from the beginning in 2008 when the plan was adopted therefore it's always been contemplated as a property that has the right to seek zoning entitlements within that district it is also very important to note that all the way back to 2008 even when passed and Neal has adopted this parcel already had a res one land use designation so it had a preexisting land use designation of one unit per acre even before the adoption of the plan consequently this application technically does not rely upon and have to increase any density under the area plan we're not reaching up and pulling any additional density down we simply are asking to zone consistent with the original res 1 one unit per acre designation that's why it's a large lot development less than one unit per acre that's the reason for the density requested even though we aren't using additional vo pH entitlements this particular property owner as you know was one of the original poj members they have properties in several villages so we actually volunteered as part of the application process to still sign on to and abide by all the terms and conditions of the area plan including the imposition of the surcharges and all of the other requirements so on a voluntary basis this property owner proposed to do in the IMP UD what we're now going to be asking everyone outside the villages to do when you see the vo pH update and a couple of weeks so they were kind of the trend setter in that regard we comply with all of those regulations were consistent with the comp plan predating vo pH as to the questions about for King and Covington Road entirely consistent with the vo pH regulations this property owner is agreeing and is obligated to M pewdie to provide its portion of the right-of-way for both fort King Road and for Covington we have land on the east and west side that's part of this MPD so we actually will be providing right away for coming today and we also are obligated under the access management study that was approved by your transportation staff we've agreed even though they weren't technically required by the study because of the hill and the sight lines we've agreed to construct as a mandatory requirement northbound left turn lane on Fort King and a southbound right turn lane on Fort King so that we're protecting that that sight line on that hill for for cars coming at some speed in the future for safety reasons so with that said we agree with all the staff conditions we worked all those outlets staff we're divided by the traffic requirements we're consistent with the comp plan

we're voluntarily abiding by the bo peach area plan including the financial plan and we urge you to support the approval as the policy committee recommended unanimous approval thank you mister to any questions from us or two from the board at this time seeing none this is a public hearing I do not have anybody signed up if you'd like to speak to this I am and ask that you come to the podium now state your name and address for the record you have three minutes good afternoon Nancy Hazelwood three-for-one 100 a nice place I remember when they put the countryside in place I remember a bit differently in the mr2 yes I remember that this was kind of supposed to be a protected area for the citizens there they were really concerned about Pasadena Hills at the time being approved for 40,000 units so I have your comp plan and Fosse FL you six point two point two this is what it has to say the delineation of the urban village land-use classifications within the Pasadena Hills study area is based on the concept of a countryside line defined by the easternmost boundary of the village land use as depicted in the figure pH six pasadenian hills 2050 future land use plan which supports a community vision to establish a clear transition from urban character West OSIS delineation to the existing rural development pattern East at the dental a nation the countryside line is still yet to be approximately to the ridge that additionally serves as the visual demarcation transition areas from urbanization the west to the east now Pasco County Sheriff respect the existing rural development pattern of the countryside area as depicted Pasadena Hills land-use vision plan when reviewing requests for the comp plan or rezoning applications countryside area was evaluated during the Pasadena Hills study and determined to be a area predominantly built and or plaid and a rural development form within a closed stormwater drainage basin now this is interesting this next one its policy six point two point four Fort King Road rural scenic roadway Pasadena Pasco County shown in the development code December 2008 marked out to 2012 to establish specific standards for world scenic roads in Pasco County that will assist in the protection of the existent rural development patterns of the area the land development code provisions creating a tea standard show address the following and it goes down to this trees canopies all this this ordinance has not been written it was put off to 2012 and that wasn't written I was wondering how they were complying with that and I would love it if the Board of County Commissioners and the staff think about doing an ordinance for countries this I believe this whole country site was put into place in 2008 to say okay Pasadena Hills ends here and this is to protect the people over the other side of the line that's a your staff did excellent job on this and I know their land use and zoning it's probably the best we can

hope for I just hope that after this she take it into consideration and maybe approve an ordinance for it thank you all thank you for your time anybody else like to speak who sing none with the Advocate like to follow name and address for the record please Shane Williams 372 43 Covington Road and you've been sworn yes I would thank you I the other neighbors here on the east side of Fort King along Covington we have a different project in the works and that's the paving of that east side of covington during that process the 40 acres that you see on the east side was rated at a certain residential rate which was one unit or one house for ten acres and the formula for who's gonna pay for that side of Covington to get paid if we're changing the rating to this new plan which is one per acre we would like to see that area readjusted to do that the 26 units that it's kind of going to be involved there instead of the four that is currently rated at all so there's a curve in Covington there I don't know if you can really see it or not but you see the red line and then it goes up a little bit and then white line continues I know the attorneys both to the Evans property people donating land for that road but I don't see where that happened because there would be no curve there if they actually had donated any property I just moved there a year ago and I saw the flags were out and it went right along the Evans property line and then when they surveyed it it didn't go into the Evans property line at all it went further into wrens property one of the other neighbors there to cover the existing 50 feet for that road but we all know you know change is coming we know people were coming I think mostly we would eject to the amount of people that are there if we go to the one unit per acre and then you apply the 65% rule I don't see how they're gonna put 200 homes almost 200 homes with 200 acres that's all I have thank you so much I said the app Clinton our staff want to answer the question a reference to the road go ahead Joel to protune Association so I'm sorry did somebody else okay you guys yeah okay anybody else that wants to speak I need them lined up now anybody else want to speak this time cutting it off there to this person okay nobody else maybe not just for the record please Thank You mr. chairman my name is James Martinez I live at three seven two four six Covington Road I've lived there since 1996 I happen to also be the petition leader for a P vast program where we've asked the county to convert East Covington Road to a public road and pave it there's 11 property owners that have participated in this process however there's only three homeowners there's only three residences along that road the cost estimated cost of the paving project is two hundred and twenty thousand dollars and that cost is going to be borne by those few property owners and homeowners that live on copy to groats because the assessments that were made for the paving process was made prior to this new rezoning development that surfaced Evans has only assigned a

cost of five thousand three hundred and eighty-eight dollars of the two hundred and twenty thousand dollar paving in other words the three homeowners or the eleven well in this case will be ten property owners are gonna pay ninety seven percent of the cost of that painting and we're gonna pay for it over fifteen years I know we can't see fifteen years ahead but I can assure you that real estates moving very rapidly there's some time in that interval of time the Evans project will take off and it could be as many as twenty six homes that will be utilizing that road that was paid for by three homeowners or half-a-dozen homeowners feel is very unequal very unfair and we're only asking for that to be reconsidered in the ordinance there is a there is a person there is a a permissive language at the bottom of the ordinance that allows this body if the county administrator makes a recommendation to make an exception to the distribution of the expense for the building of the road I would like to ask you all to consider that on behalf of these homeowners that are gonna be burdened by this two hundred and twenty thousand dollar expense the road will benefit everybody including the evidence organization but it would be mainly those new homes that would benefit from the road but they're not paying for it and that's what I have to say those are the numbers that are taken from the statistics that were given to me by the county there's $1 yes sir thank you serving it let's see if I can if I can ask the gentleman a question so your petition has not yet been heard by the board correct no sir we were told that we would have to be we would be advised as a hearing and then after the hearing it would come to the board for the the County Board of County Commissioners to adopt the program and adopt the road but we haven't been informed of when that hearing or the County Board of Commissioners would be hearing this I know that you will be receiving it because we've been working with the people mr. Ainsley Caldwell in his area I started this in 2018 okay been working on it for almost two years we're pretty far along okay but this development came up very suddenly Hussein so give me one second sir yes sir really want to make sure all on the same page here so I have commissioner Auckland sitting there standing and Evans properties got one for 10:00 on on for properties that have to pay toward the road at the time of the P vests and the boat of the previs they only had one for properties or four units toward that be vast and that's been approved by the group and I guess it's waiting to come to us to be finalised okay so it has not come to us to be finalized now so we have not voted on it or not okay give me one second here so mr. biles do we have somebody on the team here right now that can confirm so my point is Lee's not here my point in asking the question is that this analysis is while you might be able to put a condition on this MV ug if the mqd approval substantially alters

the the ER use for Covington Road and you have not been and it has not been approved by the Board of County Commissioners it would be adjusted they can start well they they would have to send new letters out but they could do a recalculation of this project send new letters out and then bring the revised project back before you okay do you understand what yes sir and that would be all we would ask okay you have a more equitable distribution of the expense we we welcome the development we welcome progress we would just want a fair distribution of the cost all right thank you sorry for Emma I'm gonna let you go ahead and take a seat then when we go back to the Commission thank you very much for the opportunity to speak Thank You mr. Lee there's supposed to go by the units and that's way the votes go are you that's it good if so and you change that instead of one or four units they would have they having one acre you'd have 40 units your use would go up if the Commissioner is saying they're their votes in the petition would go up there Matt Strehlow but there we are used that they'd be paying to the project which also would also they would also do it yes yep but in each crui vote correct yeah okay that's what that's what I was so they would have 40 votes problem they would right that's all it works yeah I can't talk from the audience sorry so I will I will I will go back to the county attorney right and the county attorney will state how the P bass work so my point is for this particular rezoning if the issue is an inconsistency with the the how this will all be a propane for that's best addressed in your pee vest process not in the not in the rezoning not in the matter that is before you today so when this comes in front of this for a vote on the P vas at that time that's where that will happen so I would I would suggest that the administrator be asked or or assistant county administrator for infrastructure be asked to look at this particular project before it comes back before you to see whether or not adjustments need to be made and how those adjustments legally are made where they are in the process I have that note okay duly noted yes sir thank you before I bring the applicant back up is there any other additional questions from the board well like I do comment on that it might need to be a board initiated be this we're not there yet ma'am let's do this and see what we need to do yeah okay okay I will bring the applica Becca Joel to again to an associates for the applicant I'll try to work in Reverse quickly on the P pass item Evans properties participated last time according to the then applicable PBS rules if we start over and do a new one we will again participate in that process and abide by the P vast rules so there's there's no issue there and I concur that that is independent of the zoning approval but I acknowledge on the record that there they will go through whatever the legal process is for the P vast determination so that's that's not

an issue for us and then going back to the the first speakers comments about the countryside area just to clarify her her point was why I started my presentation by emphasizing that this parcel had were has one land use prior to the vo pH area plant and that countryside area is to define the segregation between those urban village centers and the rest of the land to the east and in fact all of the villages the village centers and those more dense areas are west of that countryside area just as the plan requires now where the plan was very clear in 2008 and still is today that any property owner not just Evans properties but you've had a number of other property owners in the countryside area that if they had a pre-existing land use designation they are entitled to ask you to zone within their prior designation we did not take that away from them and that was a major part of that plan we assured everyone and that included Evans properties asked for this parcel that they didn't lose their pre-existing res one land use designation so all we're asking you to do as I said is to implement that and with that we have nothing else unless there are any further questions thank you any questions for the board seeing none back to the board have a motion in the second all in favor aye all opposed same sign [Applause] okay ladies and gentlemen we are going to p5 all right good afternoon how are you guys just so everyone's aware this item is being rehearse with the required noticing procedures just so you might look familiar this is the location map the proposed development is located the northwest corner of the intersection of Belle Lake Road and Alpine Road roughly one mile east of Land O'Lakes Boulevard so this is the zoning surrounded area you'll see PUD and MPD to the south and to the east and some lighter residential surrounding it to the north and west the future land use for the entire area out there is res six so that's six drilling units per acre the applicants request is to rezone from our one rural residential zoning district to MPD master planning development district for the development of 27 single-family detached residential units this is the master plan for the project itself I'm gonna leave this up just as a visual I read through the findings of fact it's probably easier to talk to so the site is approximately nine point four six eight acres of vacant unimproved land of that seven point nine three acres is upland and one point five two acres are wetland the applicant is proposing three point four zero dwelling units per developable acre the applicant proposes the main access to the subject property shall be off of Alpine Road the project area is located within the central good area and it's just outside the boundary of the urban service area so some more background the Planning Commission heard the item at the November 21st 2019 hearing the item was pulled from the consent agenda as there were public comments the Planning

Commission unanimously recommended denial with the justification that the proposed development specifically the lot sizes were not compatible with the surrounding area after the Planning Commission recommendation the applicant has increased the lot sizes from 35 feet to 40 feet wide as well as to further restrict their project from the original request of 32 dwelling units to $27 units so staff continues to recommend approval with conditions for the projects for the reasons of you know the existing future land use out here is res 6 all the areas calls for a density of much higher than the applicant proposes and staff feels the transition of density is appropriate in this area in addition in an effort to provide a buffer between the existing larger lot residential homes to the north and the proposed loss Lots a conscious effort was made to cluster the new Lots closer to the right-of-way creating a natural buffer of existing trees the category 3 wetland and the new stormwater pond so as you can see the homes are kind of clumped mainly towards Belle Lake Road and away from a lot of the residential homes to the north so with that planning a development continues to recommend approval and if you have any questions any questions from staff this time yes sir on your improvements on Belle Lake Road the eastbound left turn lane in did you look anything like a right turn lane on Alpine Road going to the west I'm not sure of the improvements on Alpine I know they will have to improve Alpine up to their project entrance there their entrance is on Alpine they are going to have to improve Alpine Road but when it comes to turn I'm not sure on that yeah other questions for staff before I bring up the applicant okay yeah put it to the applicants represented mr. president mr. chairman commissioners mr. Minnis traitor Todd Pressman 200 second Avenue South and st. Petersburg Florida number 451 I'm here at the Eric Swanson Erica's the land manners for AM H Holmes which is a national home builder I do have a PowerPoint for you which is up but we can go through that miss chairman I asked I asked for extra time which I've been told what the cork was approved PDD 20-7 four for eight you've heard from your staff they're supportive and continue to be supportive of the request no premise points we have made pretty significant plan changes since the Planning and Zoning and heard from some citizens this is nothing more than a small very nice twenty-seven unit subdivision supported strongly by your staff it's designed really at workforce and family housing level which I'll talk a little bit more in detail New York will and critically the FA R is substantially below with the future land use category is we're less than half of what the comp plan calls for in the area so as your staff walked you through we're up in the northern part of the county along Bell Lake Road as you can see this is an aerial and the site is shown to you on the aerial there so the issue is r1 to MP u DV really again for a very nice small twenty seven maximum

single family homes detached with a small request at ten percent reduction of parks but we're making up for that with a tremendous buffer nine point four or five acres so as you can see commissioners the entire area is at a res six six units per acre we've reduced the number units from 32 and it is to 27 that's my error we have reduced it to 27 units from 32 and we've also increased a lot with 135 feet the 40 feet that was one of the concerns raised previously with a couple other concerns so the cycling as you can see is the 27 dwellings everything to the north is buffer and again we've responded to the concerns that we've heard density proposed now is 2.8 five units per acre future land-use categories six units per acre were blessed than half of what calls for in your comp plan and this is the product Eric's company throughout the country has done thousands units there are single-family homes these are homes for rent I'll go in a little bit more detail on that which is a very unique element in the marketplace for affordable workplace homes families and families that are moving through the community sometimes it please fire military so you can see these are their typical units so some points in support first of all can you staff the recommendation approval they tell you that is consistent with Pasco County l DC chapter 400 zoning amendment and with application provisions of the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan res six comp plan intent is to recognize those areas suitable for single multiple family residential development having a minimum density of six drilling units per developer acre again we're 2.5 acres way below that standard this n PUD provides clustered smaller Lots to preserve a lot of natural wetlands provides an upland buffer around the wetlands and provides neighborhood parks and over 30 percent open space so if you look to the north that is a 200 foot buffer that your staff referred to which comprises roughly about a third of the development and you can see two of the park areas on the south side there will also be a six foot six foot fence surrounding outside wetlands or outside areas that are not permitted anywhere that fences permitted typically offense will be provided we also asked a separate independent planner AICP planner and transportation planner to look at this request and we submitted the record his report which tells you the rezoning MPU D is consistent with the future land use plan and development of single-family homes is compatible at the surrounding development area and will not adversely affect nearby properties which will also develop with residential homes your Pasco comprehensive plan these are really important criteria or policies in your plan they know to ensure opportunities of etiquettes supply of all types of housing which this is a really bit unique type of housing which is needed designation of sufficient densities to achieve a variety of housing types and third to encourage residential infill in urban areas we

meet all three of those that way you follow that direction I'm going to turn this over to Eric he's gonna explain to a little bit about the product and how successful it's been for thousands and thousands units United States Eric please thank you so much Todd and members of the Commission again my name is Eric Swanson I'm the land manager for MH development or American homes for rent in the Tampa Bay area what we've decided to do is pull out some facts about our residence on average our household income per household is over a hundred thousand dollars predominantly and we pretty much hit every egman of our demographic but the bulk of our line shares in older millennials that have families between the ages of 35 and 40 and they average about two to three years in any given location because of the recent changes in tax law and how we can deduct our interest on our mortgage it's creating some opportunities that residents are looking for particularly with our product as a viable alternative for our I guess the foundation of our business thesis has always been to be the anti apartment so we really and these are some of the elements that we address with all our communities know attached walls three four and five bedrooms brand new home construction having a garage in a driveway as a standard two-car garages on all our product yards storage space and obviously sense of community in building the best communities we can and with the attention to livability yeah Thank You mr. chairman commissioners reason we raised these points in much greater detail than your planet zoning is because some of the citizens there were in attendance and you're planning zoning board harped on and stayed on and quite frankly got stuck on the rental aspect which we didn't go into detail so we want to be sure when we came today to explain to you exact product how it's been successful and who it serves so in summary we made significant changes down to 27 units and a large a lot with the housing type is well accepted particularly for workforce housing we have your full staff support and your experts and the staff our independent professional planner agrees we are far below the FA are we're providing a tremendous buffer to ensure compatibility and the comp plan calls for varied housing types staff says consistent I will tell you in wrapping up mr. chairman that we did contact my public notice anyone separate homeowners I have spoken with I would say approximately or five or six over the last couple months make sure folks are aware what we're doing and what was occurring and I do have one letter to put in the record from the applicants attorney regarding some specific points let me put that in the record sir Oh favor I hope side passes thank you mister we're here to answer any questions you might have and be happy to answer any questions from the public of the tables where I go to public comment commissioners questions for the

applicant no I you know I read the Uli reports and this is this is need that's being I've seen this all over the country right so this is the second one we have another one coming in off of State Road 54 in front of Ivy Lake Estates that's a definitely trending my son is moving out of New York City and renting a house okay Thank You commissioner any other questions at this time with that I will go to mr. chairman I'm sorry just they had one more fact to you the price point of the homes in terms of price point are typically between two hundred fifty nine thousand three hundred forty five thousand since the market in terms of the value of the homes although of course again they're for rent but I wanted to give you all the encompasses so you understand the product video thank you okay thank you thank you sir so I do have a number of people that have signed up to speak so what I will do at this time since we have a number the clerk is going to read out three names at a time I'll ask you all to please line up at that time if you have not signed out it when I get to the last person I'll ask you to line up at that time and after that it will cut off public comment if you have not been sworn and you would like to speak you need to be sworn in so if you have not been sworn in and you'd like to speak I'll ask that you please stay at this time if you were not sworn in okay I bet speaking Smith's sworn so thank you mr. Clerk Troy got all three more David hoodie Erin and Margaret got Shaw good afternoon just name an address for the record please Troy Gaucho I look at two two four three four Ladera Lane just north of the proposed subdivision we have a small power point here so that's a little closer view of the area they they showed you a wider view the area in question or the proposed subdivision is that area in red I'm not sure how this works excuse me yes they're here I live in the area right there that is my home that's 2.06 acres north of the property my biggest concern with this whole project is that the size of the Lots do not meet what is in the surrounding area back in the Planning Commission meeting on 11:21 one of the members of Planning Commission asked staff what is the average lot within this area including the MPU D and they said it was 80 feet these are half that the math says that a 40 by 110 watt comes out 2.09 acres I don't know if you can read those or not but those are some samples of the size of the Lots adjoining this property the smallest ones would be in the Oder PUD below they are 0.3 1.3 3.28 roughly three times or more the size of the Lots that are being proposed they talk about the density of the entire development being just somewhere around three or so per per acre the problem is is that when you look at this in detail you take out the buffer and I know technically that's not the way you do the calculation but there is the size of the development and if you look

to these Lots being point five acres 0.58 excuse me roughly two of those homes is larger than the seven lots that are adjacent on the other side of that drainage property that's uh that's just not acceptable to us it doesn't make sense it doesn't match anything in the area it really gives us a heartache excuse me decorate this thing there anyway I was gonna go back to one point and mr. Pressman made that they have changed since the Planning Commission recommended for denial the size of the Lots and the number of units there's an email from mr. Pressman last week I believe of us or our two weeks ago that says that they've made these changes there's an email on November 14th prior to the Planning Commission meeting that says their target is 27 homes and 40-foot wide ones so there were no changes made that that that was a falsehood given to you folks I'm gonna give my time to David thanks for your time thank you good afternoon my name is Dave Howe Doreen I met 22 for 18 Ladera Lane and that's in Land O'Lakes Board obviously I've been a residence 32 years in Pasco County seventeen at this address and I have some of the same concerns as mr. Gatchell we actually have one more thing going up there that's on the end of that I asked one of the main questions I asked is what need is truly being filled here right we have a high density subdivision going in to our rural community and again it doesn't match what is currently in place the numbers for proposed by their developers obviously on gross gross land versus the actual net if you were to compile the lot sizes you could fit 11 of these Lots in one acre really if you actually did the net version of it so we're really worried about you know the look and conformity of these houses being in our neighborhood and also doing research we found out AMH development are the developer actually rents these homes out so and he made you aware of them obviously rentals concern us we but we're doing some research I actually found a temperature Tampa Bay Times article and it was from January 22nd and I have that on there right here not highlighted some of the areas but the main thing is the declining percentage of homeowner occupied our excuse me owner occupied homes in the area in Pasco County has gone from fifty four percent to forty seven percent from 2008 to 2009 teen and that's with increasing forty five thousand homes in the county during that time frame so it's a little concerning and obviously there's some quotes in there from sheriff NACO talking about attracting illegal activity and becoming eyesores and neighborhood for rental properties and I understand they're gonna have their company is going to support the neighborhood for a while but how long does that stay in place for do we have anything in place to make sure that they're going to be taking care of these homes we don't know that and what happens if they do sell a few of these homes then now it's no longer going to

be a complete neighborhood of rental homes at that point and there was even concerns from the Commission you can see in there you guys passed an ordinance about rental homes because you are concerned about them as I have so again my question is what are we accomplishing here one thing I think we're accomplishing is we're creating a revenue stream for a large national company of rental homes how much does it really help our community to put these in place there's plenty of development all up and down the 5456 corridor with rental properties small homes workforce homes all those types of things I don't think we need to change in this small little tiny neighborhood here and I think that's it all right thank you so much thank you guys the afternoon named name and address for the record please my name is Margaret gotcha eighty-two 31 for Boleyn in Land O'Lakes and I'm kind of taking this development from a senior citizens point of view as you know there's quite a few of us in Pasco County and I've regularly use Alpine Road and Bell Lake Road to go to and from my home and the condition of the roads is certainly a concern especially with construction and increased traffic Bell Lake Road has deep call them ditches on the side of the road actually adjacent to the properties that we're talking about it's also just a two-lane road in that area not a four-lane road on the other side the east side of this particular property Alpine Road is very narrow it's deteriorating the shoulders on both sides are caving in it would need tremendous work to accommodate the additional traffic and of course the construction equipment that's going to be going over these roads while this development it's being constructed so the roads are definitely my concern I've had a lot of close calls on those roads myself because of large vehicles or speeding another issue with the transversing that area and this one comes from the fact that I'm a retired schoolteacher and I did teach in the portable buildings at Land O Lakes High School on 41 and we don't want to go backwards to portable buildings again we've built a new high school years ago and we've built other schools in the area and I think that we need to consider infrastructure we need to consider our schools when we're adding housing at the rate we are going in this particular housing development would have I would assume many school-aged children amongst the residents and then of course we're talking in an area that does have a wetlands that needs to be protected on that property which I think the previous speakers talked about you don't have usage of the total acreage for housing because it's limited by the wetlands so that it does cause some crowding compared to other houses in the area so I think that between the wetlands and the roads the commissioners need to consider how the roads are going to be improved thank you thank you ma'am thank you okay thank you Karen job to be

followed by raymond McGeehan in a and after mr. McKeon if anybody else wishes to speak I'll ask you to line up at this time is anybody yes please anybody yeah anybody yeah you're fine you don't have to sign out I'm just actually they'll line up if anybody else is gonna speak to this item I'll need you to line up now please that what we know okay one second please something it's not just not counting to get your time yet good good that's gonna make sure okay right yes ma'am I'm naming address for the record okay my name is Karen Jobe and I live at 4200 Alpine Road in Land O'Lakes I'm a fourth-generation for the radio know born and raised in Hillsborough County and grew up in Tampa at the age of 21 the my boss said you need to invest in property I went we came into Pasco County I bought five point six acres on Alpine Road and that has to be one of the proudest moments of my life in nineteen that happened in 1967 in 1973 my parents were looking to move so I gave them lifetime estate on that property they lived there from 1973 until they passed away in the fifty-two years I've seen growth and development and I embrace change my concerns again the lot sizes are inconsistent while they're the impressive presentation for workforce housing that the fact that they are rental properties is a huge concern of mine I have at the north end of the lake because I do live on banjo Lake at the north end of my leg there are I don't apologize I don't know the number of units but there are a large been there about 30 years apartment units that have been in foreclosure and in disarray and in need of repair we have had theft coming across the lake from that from that housing development this development property I was excited on the beginning because I did not know again the number of units or the number of the fact that there were rental properties now irrelevant to this but important to me and something that you will be addressing soon is on the east side of my lake I've just been notified by the county by my County that there are 54 townhomes going to be built on the east side of my lake on banjo Lake Road the traffic on Alpine and ballet can I handle it my grandson gets off the school bus he steps in a ditch to get across the road to get across Alpine to come to come home I want this property that we have I want to leave it to my grandson I want him to live in Pasco County enjoy what I have enjoyed the edge of my property is less than 25 feet across I'm across the road but less than 25 feet from the entry the entrance off of Alpine Road again I think is something that is not in favor of Alpine Road as the lady you just mentioned the width of the road now I I don't know that it's in them the disrepair that was implied but it is a narrow red thank you for your time thank you ma'am thank you yesterday afternoon name and address for the record please 46 36 Alpine Road sorry can you just pull that mic up just a little bit yeah there you landed legs

yeah thanks 46 36 outline you need to state for the record that you've been sworn when you when you give your name and address and whether you're not he's good yes sir progress I'm happy with Pasco County the way they have been doing things and it's exciting to see Pasco grow the way it has my family would go back to the early nineteen 20 at any rate so I'm what progress but the road as there's no sidewalks the road is caving in caving in little bit okay traffic is going to be terrible and so that's my big concern is that to put a project like this and a section you're just looking for major problems I'm sure you all can see that it's just ludicrous that that they are trying to build this type of a project in that area at this time now after the infrastructures were a little bit better Bell Lake is very dangerous road and our pine is even worse there's not hardly a month goes by at least I don't see it one or two cars in the ditch and the kids there's no place for kids to get off to walk or anyone to walk I'll find it all so the entrance in something should be done and changed somehow that's my I think you know project looks nice but I don't know it's scary thank you very much thank you circuit bye-bye afternoon name and address for the record afternoon jeopardise four one four seven Alpine Road in Land O'Lakes individual yeah I mean you've been sworn yes I stood up to thank you that warning I've actually lived in Pasco County in Land O'Lakes my entire life as well as my sisters I currently live with my mother who was 85 years old the property that is adjacent to this just to the north we've had in our family almost 100 years we still live on a portion of it we had it split up into acreages so this type of thing wouldn't happen we actually also I don't know if you all are aware had a petition where we have over 300 people sign the petition to not have this type of development go in 356 signatures we have I don't know if you would like this I need a motion the horses never sell out if you man and then you can hand it to the clerk yes ma'am drainage is also a huge issue every time it rains right there where our puppies are in the gullies they get full we get almost like lakes around our houses so that's an issue as well my issue that I have goes to safety I have it you know those of us that have children there's signs that say lock your doors because there's you know people that are out there wanting to break in your car I mean this is something that growing up in Pasco County and Land O'Lakes I never had my son was almost taken off the street when I was having a conversation with my neighbor somebody pulled up open the door then they saw us he was maybe 10 G in front of me so it's a concern a rental versus somebody who has the pride that owns their home to me there's a there's a difference in that I'd like to see backup that shows why we have you know why there's a need for something like this you know such clustered houses that aren't even for sale that these

people don't get a pride in owning their home they rent it and what's to say what's the what's their their median like income thank you I'm nervous what's their medium income you know who who's gonna be living there who's gonna take pride in their property you know what type of neighbors are we gonna have because we have fantastic ones now as you can see behind me you know that's basically what I have for today thank you ma'am thank you and commissioners I didn't call that motion a sec let me call the motion all in favor aye all opposed that was the receiver pile all in favor aye all opposed seems timely persons thank you sir good afternoon name and address for the record need you've been swarmed yes I have it thank you excuse me my name is Curt Glasgow and look at 42 52 Alpine Road I'm at one of the larger properties to the north it was referenced I also happen to be the sole property owner on Land O'Lakes who been the wisdom of the Corps of Engineers now has a his own sea flood property I've had to take out insurance on my property where I never had to before the building at this location for 27 years about 25 years ago I stood before your predecessors in opposition to a development that was proposed across from me on Alpine Road where developer was looking to put in a hundred and two duplex units in a scheme where they would be available for people in North Carolina to live half the year and then half the year down here obviously 33 acres in 102 units was a very very dense development we successfully opposed it your predecessor you saw the wisdom of that then instead they put up a number of beautiful single-family homes it's wonderful we love it they're great additions to the neighborhood but despite the fact that they put in to retention ponds and a connection of the series of drainage ditches that neighborhood is constantly enduring flooding at every significant range and that flooding goes unto my property I lost a hundred and sixty maple trees in the backyard that died out due to flooding root rot and trunk rot they had to be taken out I've had to read it real and scape my backyard and put in drainage swales to try to keep my backyard from being flooded where it never was before and this is despite the fact that a development that was proposed for 102 was taken down to 20 the best laid plans of engineering and by the way I'm a retired engineer the best laid plans seldom come off the way they do and my position here is that putting this many homes 10 feet apart from each other on that small piece of property is going to overload that wetlands which feeds into the wetlands and the drainage system that feeds - banjo Lake right behind my property and it's gonna have an impact we don't need rental properties we've had rental properties that's now I think Chelsea Meadows is the development who was referred to at the North at one time that was Section eight housing it's been apartments it's been under I think at least six or seven ownerships in the 27

years I've been there now I believe it's condominiums it's under massive redevelopment because it went to path and it went to pot because it went to too many different owners what guarantees do we have that this company can come in here and put in these rental properties is going to maintain those rental properties the way we property owners want to and what's going to happen when they decide to sell it to some other company who doesn't have the same interests at heart and then they sell it and then they sell it and we're left holding the bank I asked you to show the wisdom that your predecessors do leave this area the quiet small low-density residential area that it has been for the last 50 years thank you thank you and this will be our last speaker name and address to the record and have you been sworn sir I haven't been sworn thank you my name is James Litton four zero one three Aladar Court which is adjacent on the west side of the proposed development see the lines of the Lots on the far left side of the drawing so my interest is leaving at r1 for obvious reasons it's r1 now all the properties to the west north and mostly for the east are all are one you know interested in you know preserving property values traffic at it collier and 54 is a mess you had you know this many more houses that'll just you know add to the congestion that's already up there also at Belle Lake Road and 41 and along bellick Road in general where it's really busy for a two-lane road already that's really all I had just you know to echo some of the concerns here and just preserve my r1 property values thank you sir thank you okay so is back to the board nail and the double check one more time was there any but we can't you already spoke yeah it's a guess it's can't do it the County Attorney's gonna tell you after I do so okay we can't speak from the audience committee why did the attorney wanna address some of the comments I was gonna ask that to it yes did you have any other questions well afterwards because I may have something okay go ahead and respond and then I have some questions and then stuff did you have something David yeah just a quick clarification there are two conditions and the conditions of approval that needed to be adjusted one was 21 8.1 it still had the old lot dimension of 35 feet so that needs to switch to the 40 feet and then condition number 22 it still said the original home amount of 32 that needs to switch to say 27 just so you're aware okay okay thank you Patrick while you're up there if I may yes is this is this project is a little unusual are there anything in the conditions that really require them to do a rental community here or to or do their do what they've what they've described they're doing to the board when I scan through the conditions of approval this could be a regular single-family platted project correct I believe that is what they're intending on doing and that's I think what was proposed to us as well so we

move forward this being single-family residential platted subdivision okay so question on that go ahead we never ask what someone's coming in with the neighborhood whether they're for sale or rent that's correct that's not something we've taken to consider and that was and that was why I asked the question is there has been a lot of discussion about rental that this being a rental community and I routinely when this is a multi-family apartment or condo issue I tell you you can't consider that as part of your land use decision and the same would apply here that's why I wanted to make sure that there because this was unusual whether there was something that required them to do what they what they presented to you in their PowerPoint so my advice would be this is a land use decision this is this should be considered like any other single-family development that might come before you and that you have to weigh that against whether or not it's compatible with the rest of it the adjacent property well when I'm looking on the map and I'm liking that Alpine mm-hmm and I look at gaulden Lane am I saying that right where is gold can you put up can you go up to the Google Earth or something is that a mobile home park that I see there so we have a mobile home park right across the street from these homes and then I look down Alpine and I see an apartment complex and then I look to the right before my battery dies and I see something called Eagle Crest disabled rich figure those Lots yeah hold on let's look could I let her get to that yeah real quick to system I think so not that I want you to go to Google Earth and assume no Google but don't don't give the area on slide that has that real almost yeah so I heard someone say this was the country in but I am looking at very dense neighborhoods here except for the one Street over here drying and road I mean there's other people have some large parcels but that doesn't mean they can't some of the fight them later so I see one one Street I don't know what whatever okay so gaulden is so you see with a Red Square is okay it's just right there on the right is a mobile home park next next you cannot talk from the audience I'm sorry so I see it I am seeing at least two four six eight eight trailers I don't know so I don't know that for me I'm okay with this I look at Longley and I see townhomes garden homes what you know acre homes half acre homes and smaller in they property values have done fine so I think it's unfounded that you to be worried about this affecting your property values and my guess is if it is gonna be around community which is something that we can't really take into account they're gonna want to protect their investment and make sure that their property is kept up to standards we also just passed a rental registry ordinance so we have some oversight as

well on rental property that wasn't here before so I I get I get that Alden Aled Airport may have bigger Lots and Brian Road but everyone else to me has a lot smaller Lots I did I did wonder if the developer could switch it around a little bit if you can go back to their layout interior they they have the seven Lots back up to Belle Lake and then there's two in the two and three parcels on Alpine I don't know if the entrance can't you know I don't know they that well but can can those two sections be swapped so that entrance is off of bell lake and then maybe that relieves the problems of alpine just a thought okay any other questions for staff before I bring the applicant back up just usually have a comment of Chairman I just and I know we obviously can't consider but I just want to confirm with the county attorney I know cuz one of the residents put hop in it I think it is relevant here as far as the rental registry ordinance they would not be exempt from it they would have to register and so forth this part of the part of the ordinance as a platted single-family subdivision if the if the units were put to rent then they would be required to yeah to register under the under that order which i think is it's a positive um so again we can't make our decisions off that but i just thought it was good to have on the record just so the residents of these commissioners dark you'd answer your question we generally like to see access from local roads before collector roads so that's why we're there using Alpine to access to the condition of Alpine they have to improve Alpine Road up to their project that was gonna be one of my questions about what they're doing gonna let the applicant come up and speak on that so the album come okay sorry go ahead sorry on our chart if there's no south east and west as far as what the locations are to talks about the densities to the cell that says n PUD I think Commissioner start was pointed over what's what's the ratio there which on the Lots to the south yeah so you know I I'm not sure off the top of my head I did look at lot sizes I I do recall them being around 67 feet 70 feet wide on the southern side I think they're a little denser on the west side alright started the east side but I don't know the specifics was the flu then it's all red six so the whole area the whole entire areas rest is okay before I call the app thing back up any other questions for staff weekend okay I will let you respond first mr. president to the speakers and then some of us will have some questions Thank You mr. chairman and the board members and citizens who are here we have great respect for them of course for yourselves as well so regard to the many traffic issues that were raised as you heard alppain road is gonna be improved there's also a left turn lane proposed on Bell Lake for excess on the Alpine so that will address let me stop right there just to be with my questions since you brought it up okay it will be improved so it explained the

and residential property that we look at all the time we look at more all these developers coming or like five breaker Cup and this is a lot less than that yes look I'm Celeste density and what we normally have can in a residential area okay so to your point a second ago mr. Stein Schneider that referenced said we are looking at a single-family home project and you made it you know you the comment to me was maybe some type of insurances could there be a fear that this could go vertical and possibly be a multi no project sure no I mean you you have stipulations that say this is a single-family development the comment that I was making was your inquiry to the applicant regarding how they work how the Lots were going to be maintained and his response was our business plan okay that's that's the only that's the only reason that that I prevent discussion came up okay so that's a good point so if I got the applicant come back up then again so what what assurances can we put in to because you're standing in there you stated there's an HOA well so the standard condition here is the developer shall create a mandatory homeowners association property owners condominium is purchase in the form of a not-for-profit corporation registered with the state of Florida or fruit approved by the Board of County Commissioners a Community Development District I'm not sure how that fits with their business but that's what the stipulation is that's it that's in there their project so that that tax is applicable to any subdivision within County and it's used as a mechanism for subdivisions as well as the Southwest Florida Water Management District and how it regulates common or open space tracks as well as drainage yes so we affect we we utilize HOAs to be able to we set them up and we manage them as well so that we get Commission the Chairman's question should have been that your HOA would would be providing their grounds keeping not that that was your business plan well that's the mechanism you'll beginning to maintain her happy through an in technologies yes Thank You mr. chairman yes sir the front of the questions I could on the development of neither side part you've got a pretty much of a loop roll around is gonna be a sidewalk in front of all the homes all the way around there so the kitchen let's they ride bikes around through there yes yes any other questions I don't see any so it is to the board at this time what is your prerogative second what the conditions with condition yep as modified by Stanford okay of a motion a second all in favor aye all opposed motion passes we are moving on to P 6 P 6 mr. chairman Board of County Commissioners Denis Hernandez Planning and Development Department on item p6 is PDD twenty seven four five six in the names of Gonzalo and our irene martinez it's a change in zoning from AC agricultural district to an AR five agricultural residential district

i'd like on this item if you want a full presentation I'd like for you to call for public comment it was pulled at the Planning Commission however it actually comes to you with a recommendation which is unanimous of approval with conditions from the Planning Commission and the Planning and Development Department okay mr. chairman members of the board we do have publication of this matter in the Tampa Bay Times on December 27th of 2019 okay so they provide just way to ask for public comment no comment I do not have anybody signed up with anybody to speak to this item which is p6 anybody like to speak to p6 say no and back to you mr. Hernandez did you want a full presentation or is I believe it up to my board I'm here no okay this is basically a ten acre parcel going to be divided into 5.0 to 5.0 to or 5.0 for acre parcels so I got a motion in a second all the favor hi all opposed same sign motion passes thank you thank you so that is it for the regular agenda we don't have anything else that is coming up well Commissioner Wells does chairman just real quick I don't know if you remember the gentleman who spoke last week or two weeks ago was bring it up anyways traffic on 52 and some things that maybe we needed to do different so I happen to know the gentleman I know that he lives in Commissioner Mariano's district but I would like to if I need to make the motion or Commissioner Mariano I think to make a motion for Clint when to be on the CAC board I think would be great opportunity for him to learn more Antrim to added value to that board I did speak to him so I don't I mean I have a spot I don't mind you making the motion if you wanted to have him take my spot but but I would just like to make a motion so we can add Clint win on the CAC board second most in the second all in favor aye opposed same sign motion passes we're adjourned oh well we already did commissioner I these guys know I want to talk well no we have to do that now we need to do it together yeah I would like to do them all at once so we can have that all submitted and we would have a list - Jeremiah I just want to what the aquatic reserve real quick okay I will just take two second I will call this meeting back to order [Laughter] go ahead nope this is the last thing we're doing right here okay let's listen real quick from what I was informed it the Aquatic preserve did pass for the first reading up in Tallahassee I'm gonna recommend all of you please read the agenda the Commissioner Wells is prepare for us take a look and put your input in not only in the house side but the Senate side including senator Simpsons as well I don't know what you're thinking mr. biles yes the sponsor actually called me after we adjourned and we talked briefly and I told him we had some comments and would be working with him and he was willing to work with us to get our concerns addressed in the legislation that was the house sponsor yes sir okay the house sponsor or his staff -

cotton no he called me we did okay yeah he called me let me talk right before lunch yes really nice gentleman fine gentleman okay all right we are adjourned again [Music]