01.21.20 Pasco BOCC Meeting

[Music] when everybody welcome to the council County Board of County Commissioners meeting for January 21st 2020 I would like to remind everybody to please silence all electronic devices that at this time if we can rise for the invocation and pledge Oh merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts please call the roll district 1 Commissioner Oakley here district 3 Commissioner Starkey here district 4 commissioner wells here district 5 Commissioner Mariano here district 2 chairman Moore here thank you ladies and gentleman now is the time for public comment citizens are given the opportunity to come on any item coming before the board during this public comments section the board also takes public comment on items to be placed on a future board agenda or other business under their purview public comment for public hearing items are taken during those individual public hearings beginning at 1:30 p.m. it's requested that when you address the board that comments are not directed personally against any Commissioner or team member but rather directed at the issue if you do so I will give you a warning if you do it again you will be released from the podium this provides mutual respect between the board members and the public individuals speaking during public comment will be giving three minutes to speak after stating your name and address for the clerk the timer locate on the podium will start a countdown after two minutes one beep will sound the light on the timer will change from green to yellow letting you know that only one minute remains after the time is up to beautiful sound the light on the timer will change from yellow to red indicating the three minutes are up and you will close your comments at that time madam clerk we have a number of people that have signed up for public comment if you have not signed up I will ask you to line up after the last speaker if nobody if you're not lined up I will cut off coming at that time okay go ahead the first three that have signed up are Randy Evans Tim Park and Donna Herrick if you could please line up thank you morning name and address for the record please morning mr. chairman commissioners my name is Randy Evans my address is protected last Thursday I was elected without opposition as the Pasco State Committee men to replace bill bunting I'm here to speak against the ordinance amendment amending chapter 115 - one and the creation is section 115 - eight I understand what mr. Corley is trying to do and accomplish but I disagree with his remedy mr. chairman if I may that's a 130 public he can't come out correct okay if you just want your comments to be added into them thank you sir I disagree with mr. Crowley's remedy this ordinance contradicts the Republican party platform and it is

unenforceable it is a waste of time and not worth the paper is written on every candidate for public office should have be civil towards everyone not just an opposing candidate if a candidate feels another candidate is being uncivil they can walk away they can call the sheriff's office or if necessary exercise their second Amendment and stand their ground Republican platform reads we oppose any restrictions or conditions that would discourage citizens from participating in the public square or limit their ability to promote their ideas such as requiring private organizations to publicly disclose their donors to the government limits on political speech serve only to protect the powerful and insulate incumbent office holders let me read that again limits on political speech serve only to protect the powerful and insulate incumbent office holders just as Americans have a First Amendment right to devote resources to favored candidates or views they have the First Amendment right not to be forced to individually support individuals or ideologies that they oppose we are a nation of freedom not tolerant earth yes not intolerance we need to learn to be more tolerant of others it is the other half of freedom we are a nation of free men not laws it is the liberal left ideology to create a new law every time you don't like something Chinese are waving American flags in the streets of Hong Kong as a sign that they want freedom Iranians are painting American flags in the streets again they want our freedom pro-second amendment advocates are protesting in Richmond Virginia because the Liberal government want to take away the rights of its citizens and here the conservative Pasco County the servant of conservatives want to take away the First Amendment right of free speech from candidates to protect the powerful and it insulate the incumbent officeholders instead of wasting time on this unenforceable ordinance and restricting free speech why not pass an ordinance making Pasco a sanctuary County for the First Amendment and Second Amendment maybe some think this is funny but it takes away the rights the other candidates thank you for your time thank you next madam Clerk this mic seems really low Tim Park give me one sec please can we crank these up a little bit that's one minute I get the mic up okay thank you my name is Timothy Park and my address is 80 202 autumn lane and I was here in November and when I I have a concern with my home that I didn't realize how quick three minutes went last time I was here in November and really what it is I'm at an impasse because of the development of the property all around me my property has become a swamp and basically what's happened is in the development of that the last few years when we've gotten the rains all the retention ponds have filled by about July or and what happens is then all that water comes in but it where it used to I this is on my head for 40 years it used to

have drainage all the way to vast lake I have the old papers of how that went now I pay stormwater to dump their water on my property and it stays there it right now I still have water on my my field I can't mow it I can't do anything with it there's 2 acres and my home I have a septic in it and what happens is by July or August the septic no longer works well if we get rain it just it's become a saturated swamp my children came home hadn't been there for a couple years and they said what happened to her property our beautiful property now I'm asking you to do what's right I've given to this county I've been a chaplain in your County Jail's for over 40 years as a volunteer and I still do that and I've been a giver and it's been very hard for me in the last couple of years I just I don't usually talk about stuff I just figured things will work out I have talked to so many people in their water and emergency in storm water there's not a solution that I know that they're going to do anything about asking either by my property pay me damages or actually restore drainage I appreciate each one of you but I meant at an impasse right now I had a fire someone's ago and based what I have to do is either invest the money that will make the property it'll cost more to repair the property then I can sell the property for and get out of it I've been told not to invest that money because of the nature of the problem you're the people I count on and I thank you yes following miss Herrick is Julie Hagen Elise micelles and Jeremy Hardin Lauri name and address the record please Donna Herrick one five four zero one Carrie Lane and Hudson I'm here for about the 10th time trying to find out if it's legal for a county to sell the right of weight and a right of way to the property in land lock at least seven other pieces of property and individuals especially two deranged individual that they sold it to everyone on Carrie Lane is subject to verbal abuse threats and more everything he does if everything he does is legal how come he always does it after dark until after four o'clock until dark and on these long weekends like this one he started Friday night at five o'clock and he didn't end until probably 7 o'clock last night doing and no permits for anything we got a fine for cutting down a half of a tree that Burma left but he's got no less than 55 across the street that now it's almost impossible to sleep because you get all the noise from little road and the doctor said a lot of my problems is due to mold which there's between 150 404 Carrie Lane in 90 408 Bolton Avenue that is a corner a lot there's a camper there with about two inches of mold on it there's a truck back in the woods that's just practically demolished a boat full of garbage and I'm nobody ever does anything about it and those two dwellings are on one acre of property which is illegal that I have mentioned many many times the house was

moved in on a weekend a porch was built on to it the mobile home one that was condemned was pulled out another one put in on a weekend he according to code enforcement a year ago last November he had about a five-foot hole that was supposed to be filled in well he's digging three more out no that certainly is deeper than a road should be I don't feel like I lived 80 plus years and served my country to be treated this way along with a whole lot of other neighbors that and code enforcement tells me it's his property he can do what he wants I'll come it's our property but we can't do what we want it really makes one wonder who's got the deep pockets in Pasco County Thank You Man if there's a mic I don't know if there's if there is a trailer or mic or mica if there's a minimum the housing standard issue then we need to look into it and the trees nothing to cut down those trees thank you next please maybe not just for the record 15300 Carrie Lane that's in Florida I'm here for the kind of the same reason I live right behind this person he's digging a road that was supposed to be a retention or a retaining wall put up years ago he's never done that instead now he's digging and making a road that goes way down right behind my property so my property's gonna wash away as it goes on yeah he's about three or four feet from my property I've got three and a half acres on adjacent to his he's put teacher two porches on no permits front and back porch I can see him for a little road I got pictures I've got pictures of the trucks loading ups and truckload after truckload after truckload after truckload of sand going out of there somebody needs to check into this he is not doing it legally and he's really messing my property up and he is the rudest sob out there deal with you can't talk to him all he does is scream at you my grandkids just moved in they're afraid to go on the street he owns the street they can't ride their bicycles on the street and they're afraid of them why do I got to live like that why do I have to put up with this guy doing this kind of stuff somebody needs to do something about this man he's taking over the street and he's making life miserable for everyone on Carrie Lane and we do nothing but fight with him and I would like to have you see the pictures I got yeah so just you know we're gonna if we received those we're keeping them you can have okay give them to the clerk please thank you and then if there is a sort of Forsman issue Mike is back there you can file a report we'll take your report I'm a motion second all in favor aye thank you thank you thank you ma'am hi there at least my cells 3 3 4 1 Leaf Lake Drive Land O Lakes Florida 3 4 6 39 I stand before you as a member of represent Pasco a local chapter of represent us a nonpartisan movement where we seek to pass tough anti-corruption laws in cities and states across America today I speak in regard to the January 14th article by

the Tampa Bay Times titled Pasco demotes development services vos referring to assistant county administrator dan Rosenthal Don Rosenthal it appears to coin a phrase Pasco County is not sending us their finest I don't know what your HR department does in terms of bedding but they sure missed the boat on Don Rosenthal all they had to do was search the internet I imagine that those responsible for hiring mr. Rosenthal here in Pasco did so under the guise that the city of Atlanta initially applauded him for initiating a packaged permitting solution to reform their building Services Department what your HR department missed or choose to ignore was that mr. Rosenthal was fired from the city of Atlanta in 2014 due to an ethics violation cited by the board of their Board of Ethics as he brought members of his team from Atlanta here to Pasco I would suspect on the heels of his termination in the city of Atlanta initiated and an investigation into the department he previously supervised due to allegations about building staff offering expedited services for kickbacks and using resources for personal gain and former staff forging permits and certificates of occupancy as well as using contractors licenses without authorization all this culminated into an audit for years 2012 through 2014 and they released their report in July 2015 fast forward here to Pasco County in 2016 when Rosenthal initiated his a sellable solution and voila yet another audit was sparked after the county clerk received an anonymous letter contending the county staff was wasn't properly charging the fees on commercial building permits and that 31,000 building permits cannot be accounted for ironically the I'd land audit report and the Pascoe's audit report findings and recommendations are similar but more importantly both reports cite lack of identifying data to necessary necessary to adequately draw a conclusion in my view the Pasco audit alone should have been enough for the public to dismiss Rosenthal immediately dissatisfaction with Rosenthal's performance by the County Commission and County Administrator should have been enough to de miss Rosenthal entirely not create a new role to accommodate him and particularly not in the very closely related commercial area that drew scrutiny and sparked the Pasco audit in the first place I see no basis for retention deem a demotion unacceptable and suggest that retaining mr. Rosenthal poses a public risk - Pasco County operations thank you thank you following mr. Harding is Cheryl orchard Ron orchard and Gail Schwinn bird you do wait time okay go go back to the podium Jeremy okay I need to take the most of her senior file after you do your name what is he handing out okay move to receive and file second all in favor okay name and address then hand out please Jeremy Harding one zero zero two eight

Grove Drive Port Richey Florida receiving five thank you Oh favor posting side of expenses thank you okay good morning board I'll try to keep this quick I see you have quite a few speakers today the handout that I just sent out is a part of your land development code I've highlighted a couple areas that there's some major discrepancies with section two is citing a Florida Administrative Code that is no longer in force there's a new code that has replaced that so that's a very big inconsistency there the biggest one that I want to hit on today is number 24 on that handout that states runoff shall be retained or detained on-site in accordance with the applicable Mudd rules in effect on December 29th 2011 in particular to my project I have a swift mod exemption I am NOT adding enough impervious surface for them to get involved from the engineers that I've talked to in Pasco that have been practicing a very long time their take on this is that if Swift mud is not coming into play then the county is not coming into play so I think you guys need to look at that I've had some people that have had some long history of working here and remember when these were put in and have actually worked on the committee's when these codes were written and they're being misconstrued today so I would like you guys to make this a priority it is it is absolutely killing businesses I've talked to hundreds of people through this process every single one of them has a problem with the with the situation you have one engineer in particular that will not listen to any reason he comes up with his own and there is no changing it is what it is sometimes he changes his mind three times and you know in a series of emails in the same day so the last page on that is something I want to bring up timber Oaks is still a spaceship basin of special concern in Pasco as you all are aware that project is complete you have I think 93 million gallons of storage capacity there my property is just barely on the edge of that it's the lower lower area of that of that diagram and that triggers more stringent stormwater requirements in your code I think you went from 6 or 7 million don't quote me on that number 293 now so I think the the problem is fixed and I think this base in a special concern should be removed that will help alleviate some problems but the code has so many inconsistency it's almost like a a gotcha you know if you follow one the other one comes into play and not there's a lot a lot of things left to interpretation and I believe we do not need a duplication of services if Swift mud says it's ok it should be ok a swift mud says you need to do something we should follow suit so thank you for your time thank you sir and next read the next three for me for cheryl orchard ron orchard and gail schwinn burg if there's anybody here wishes to speak to this board and did not sign up I will ask you to line up for this time if I don't see anybody line up I will cut public comment after

the last person that's standing okay that's the last person yes good morning my name is Sheryl orchard I live at 67 19 Manor Beach Road New Port Richey Florida good morning to all of you I have some papers and I want to pass out first before I go ahead and read my letter so you'll have the literature motion the second was in the file all favor I've been here a few times so you pretty much know who I am I guess but I'm here today first to thank you for some of the things that have been accomplished in the green key area and we're very proud of that and we're getting hope but I also want to read something to let you know what it's like to live in the green key area to whom it may concern the purpose of this letter is this shed some light on the issues in the green Kia states we are now having and had in the past since the city of new port richey installed sewer lines in this area the sewer lines were installed in 1993 this was a good thing it stopped the use of septic tanks but it created other issues the installation of these lines raised the elevation of some streets and lowered the elevations on others these low-lying areas are part of these streets become ponds and some areas of the streets without a way for the water to drain off the streets the water remains on the streets for days covering the whole street from side to side some of the homeowners cannot even walk in the street to get their mail the kids have to wade through water to the bus stops we have no sidewalks to add to the problem was a high tide problem there are two drain pipes one on Manor Beach or Madonna Largo Terrace that are to drain the water from the streets the problem here is the water doesn't go to the pipes due to the elevation issues the two pipes on the reverse problem is the tide water coming back out of those pipes and pushing on the streets draining them causing more flooding in the street but that pipe Amana Beach had a flap and in 1995 the tide water coming back was broken at that time Greinke had to ask the Association to send a letter to the County Commissioners regarding this problem they turned around and put it back on the city we have two issues in there one the salt water the cars drove through for 25 years the rain water they've drove through for 25 years I have to say the stormwater came in and they put two flaps and repaired that to keep that tide water from coming through to the properties and flood in three streets but we haven't had high enough times to see if they're going to work but there again we have a problem with the rainwater being on the streets we have we have stormwater effects because of a small rain lays there for weeks I appreciate the stormwater people that's helped I appreciate traffic that has come in and created another issue that stopped a lot of problems we had but we have many issues in there thank you so much we appreciate it thank you more the name and address for the record please good morning good morning my name is Ron orchard 67

nineteen manor beach road new port richey 340 65 to hear this morning to talk about the homeless problem that we have basically all of Pasco County leading to us our problem has increased I'm sure since some of the southern counties have kind of pushed them out it's come back on us we're looking at two different types of homeless we look at the homeless people that are there because they're down-and-out we also look at the homeless people that are happy to be homeless in Green Key we get the problem we've got a lot of the people that are happy just being homeless and this is the major issue you're going to run into we've noticed more coming into the green key area because of the increased development in improvement in the leisure lane area over behind public shopping center on hiking unfortunately taken some of those people into our neighborhood not the best of our area but we had very little prior to that now we have three or four camps of homeless people this has increased the drug activity that we can see in the area because they come to the areas that have that available to them we have seen almost people walking the streets we've even have them coming to the doors knocking on the doors asking for handouts this is unsafe because there's a lot of older single women living there it's unsafe conditions for him we've had fights in the camps police have been called on and some of that we see the trash piling up on the streets in the area that creates the impression that hey we can dump there so these people outside the area come in good place to throw our mattresses our couches yeah we become the dumping area for bass go over there they steal water from some of the houses and then he leave the water running when they leave we've asked for help from code and Sheriff we've had very little true response to this that can really help it I've written letters to some of the homeowners that are in there to vacant land owners I've gotten one reply back his reply was that he went to the basically this was Police Department cuz I'm fortunately he was new port richey because we're a combination area they said you can't do anything you can't kick them off because you'll go to jail if you go in there and try and get them out we've gone to the Health Department under the for statues three eight six oh four one three eight six oh one and three eight six oh three these are health and nuisance issues that we should be able to use some of that to address some of these issues in there so far we've had no luck the two officers who came out to different areas said they didn't see any odors they didn't notice anything this is kind of like putting a horse in the barn leaving the door open walking in say okay the horses good then you walk away then turn around and the horse is gone because you left the door open but it was okay because he was in here the first time I checked so this this side of the county has died thank you sighing thank you what I would like to do is real quick sir sir

Cathy pulling him in the right direction if you would see Cathy let's put him in touch with the homeless can look coalition Don and his team should probably get out there and take a look at what's going on I need to go back again yep good morning name and address for the record please my name is Gail Swedberg four nine one seven Largo terrorists new port richey I agree with everything they said I'm not gonna repeat myself okay I bought my home about a year ago and it was brought up to speed with all the concerns and the problems and everything and a lot of things have gotten taken care of one of the things that I noticed was the drinking water know everybody has bottled water nobody drinks the drinking water and you know it leaves calcium deposits and everything so I decided to have a company come in and test my water because the Health Department will not do it I have copies for every one of the test results move to receiving file who's your water provider okay so let me let me let me jump in real quick so we don't oversee the city's water department just you know that's the city separate from the county we have a private account of utility in the city of Newport Richmond has a separate utility one of my concerns with that is that I don't know if it's any you know the pipes are old I mean we know the condition of green key everybody knows that everybody complains about different issues at different times so I don't know if there's some reason why the drinking water is depositing all of this in our drinking water we bathe in it we wash our hair in it we don't drink it I was going to bring a bottle today but I didn't think anybody would want a sample you know nobody nobody drinks it so that's the concern is is there something going on with the even though we have the drainage problem is there a problem now with the pipes also because it's not just within the past year that all of a sudden the water is not drinkable people have mentioned to me and several were supposed to get tested but I'd they never got back to me so that's basically why what I wanted to touch base with today as far as drinking water I mean any a motion to receive a file her okay favored by all posting son okay that's really all I wanted to touch base with without repeating myself I appreciate I would highly suggest maybe go into the city of New Port Richey their council meeting and have that discussion with their water who call their water department good unfortunately Mike and his team doesn't have any legal authority over their water department well but I can't imagine it again was because of the pipes and everything yeah they would have to look into those two even though I'm counting I can't keep going back and forth cause you don't do public no County I understand but you still me I'm just giving you a suggestion just infrastructure would be the city yes I don't we don't own those pipes this is the city would oh okay that's all thank you just a suggestion

thank you the morning name and address for the record please good morning Clinton win one to 7:09 win lane and Hudson the last person in line so raise your hand if you wrote on 52 today raigeki wrote on 41 today I'm begging you as a father of an eight-year-old she asked me to come talk to the county the road is a mess many of you have been here your whole lives like me our family started here in 1953 everyday I'm in a bumper to bumper car accident ridden area thank you for what you are doing but if you can get me on a committee to be a part of this I will jump in and put action to this let's not make 52 like 54 okay people are dying every day now I'm not here to cast blame on anybody but there's been ample time to get this infrastructure set in and I'm here pleading and begging and asking as a resident of Pasco a taxpayer let's work a plan to make 52 a prime example of what good planning can do versus what state Road 54 is okay you all know how to get a hold of me I've emailed you try to be a good citizen and try to be helpful to give you guys solutions and answers and actually preamp problems that I see ahead of time those an accident Hayes Road and Hudson Avenue again two troopers were called I see the wires hung but there's no light yet who's gonna die next okay guys I appreciate everything you do and I really really respect your positions I wouldn't want to be in your seat right now with all the growth but we got a plan so let's before 52 asphalt goes down let's please get a you know have limited access points some kind of some kind of things we don't do a superhighway on 54 thank you thanks y'all okay thank you all so much that closes public comment we do have two resolutions today and I do have one that's a time certain so we're going to move from one to two and I don't know if that's commissioner Wells I don't know if you have anything to say or an RS to before the clerk reads it all right Rs 2 if you're here for RS 2 I will ask you to please come up madam clerk if you could please read the resolution resolution number twenty dash zero six six a resolution by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida recognizing Pasco County's home delivery meal drivers for their excellent work compassion and dedication to the senior citizens of Pasco County whereas many senior citizens have mobility and other health issues that make it difficult for them to stay in and cook a meal or go to the grocery store and res meal delivery services have become increasingly popular for senior citizens who need assistance obtaining meals and rasz the Powell County Senior Services Division employs 16 home-delivery meal drivers with the mission of supplying Pasco County as homebound food insecure seniors with nutritious meals and whereas the home delivery meal driver is often the only person a homebound senior will see that day an res home delivery meal drivers have intervened during medical emergencies providing the homebound senior with necessary

assistance to obtain life-saving medical care and res home delivery meal meals benefit seniors in many ways including improved physical health and reduced feelings of isolation and loneliness and res during the fiscal year 2019 senior services home delivery meal drivers have delivered an outstanding number of a hundred and thirty six thousand two hundred and eighty-three meals for senior citizens in Pasco County now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby recognizes and commends Pasco County's home delivery meal drivers for the excellent work compassion and dedication to the seniors citizens of Pasco County done a resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 21st day of January 2021 second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion passes Thank You commissioner well certify stream in well vision I'll say a few words after yes please my name is Tom Snee I'm the manager of Pasco County Senior Services our drivers are the front line of defense for the health and well-being of many at-risk Pasco County seniors I'd like to take this opportunity to thank them for their outstanding contribution to our program and also to thank the Board of County Commissioners for recognizing them here today thank you thank you so much by swimming Wells I mean there's no way Kim can go without saying anything I mean I I mean you all know her better than I do because when I do I like to let them go plus I have a little bit of laryngitis but these guys are what makes us who we are I can tell you there are several incidents where they have saved lives literally if they didn't see the person at the door they called 911 and save lives so these guys are very important I put them at the top of my org chart because without them we couldn't do what we do in Senior Services so I wanted to make sure we recognize that and I think every one of them they are awesome they do it for very little other than the passion they have for the seniors so that's awesome to me so thank you well I agree and you know I've had the opportunity to ride a couple times with these fine folks I go out and meet the the residents that they help if you've never done that as a board member I would recommend doing it just because it's a little it's a little humbling to see how much they appreciate you coming out they look forward to it every day you may be the only person they see and again we've got story after story and I bragged about you guys last night I had to go speak in an event and we talked about feeding pass goes out early which obviously comes back to each and every one of you and we really can't thank you enough for what you do for our seniors in our community which really can't so for the record that was Kim price Human Services Director sorry thank you all right great let's chairman yes if I could and I want to thank Commissioner Wells for his great service with Ella nutrition and we're all very supportive of this whole program the extra work you do to raise money to feed that many more

seniors is greatly appreciated and it is critical it helps you seniors stay in their homes and again that extra safety is is from phenomenal so thank you for all that you do to to volunteer and help make that happen thank you so much commissioner well or Spicer may wells I'll come down and gotcha thank you [Music] scrunch in and slide back just a little bit for me [Music] go ahead him good rs1 please rs1 and if we have anybody here yes or RS one which I assume we do come forward please on our the 2019 star performers of the year excellent all right resolution I just went up on time in case I pronounce the name incorrect all the all the public works utility the team or the team come on you get to get the podium I'd like to know who's working today all right good morning good morning and if I pronounced your name incorrectly please forgive me there are quite a few I will do my best okay resolution number 20 - 0 6 8 a resolution by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida recognizing the 2019 star performers of the year whereas each year one employee one leader and one team and one team of employees of Pasco County is named star performer of the year and are recognized for their accomplishments and whereas is an Iban I'm good ok ABS an Ortiz has been selected to receive the 2019 star performer of the Year award Christina cordon has been selected to receive the 2019 star leader of the leader of the Year award and the community cleanup team of David Austin Oh Tim head Robert Finneran Ronald reach David sorry Jason Lovell Lewis levy Kurt Kurt high Zeller Dane Dianne pace Aaron Newcombe denna Bertha Bertha litt sorry Geoff none paul gossart elisha heckard david george david james tristan Jaycox david williams bill Rodriguez christopher Recio Riccio scott Denny Mike mirek Jeff Jennings James Carter Randy weeks Lloyd Morrell Charles Harris Sean Crawford John reading Joshua Guthrie Dan Wilda ray Duffy James floor annoy let's see Joel Kovac Jim Proctor Mike Stanley Scott Baldwin Kevin mmm Vanna Zek John Leonard Micah Thorpe see Patrick Phillips Doreen Lang emilio vera and amy el amor have been selected to receive the 2019 star team of the Year award Anna is an order for an organization to become premier it must attract grow and support the workforce of servant leaders dedicated to improving the lives of people contributing to a purpose larger than the individual job and performing to the highest levels day in and day out whereas these 2019 award recipients consistently demonstrate our core values with an impeccable work ethic dedication to service excellence and achieving quality outcomes in every situation they serve as an example to their fellow team members of going above and beyond and exemplifying the expectations of star performer of the year now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County

Commissioners of Pasco County Florida in regular session duly assembled that said board here I congratulate our 2019 star performers leaders and team of the year for Paso County and commends them for their outstanding efforts in supporting the county's journey to premier dental resolved this 21st day of January 2020 a motion and second all in favor all right all opposed same sign motion passes I think we first let's give them all around well thank you also to moistur ortiz my score Don and the entire community cleanup team we thank each and every one of you for just being amazing team members obviously I think without each and every one of you the county would not function how it does now do either of you have anything you'd like to say just want to thank the board and especially my supervisor and director so so give me the opportunity to excel and just implement some new management techniques during my CIP in my CIP prior on so I think that the award is because they gave me the opportunity to do that well thank you so Martha thank your bosses like you did anything you'd like to say I just wanted to say thanks pretty much to my team I couldn't be a great leader without them and all the support that they give you well thank you and it and do we have a leader for the community cleanup team that would like to say a few words I mean you can all say something if you like we know we don't mind but you might have somebody that well I like to speak for all of you well well thank all of you thank you so much and I know that the community cleanup teams are very important especially I know we give Commissioner maryada by Sherman wells have been a big part of that and in in in their areas and I know we're going to do something here not too far in the future and Wesley Chapel too so we appreciate each and every one of you you obviously do make Pasco County better and a great place to be so thank you all if anybody else would like to say anything before we go down and then what we'll do is we do have obviously resolutions for each and every one of you who would like to give out and then we'll come back up and take a picture but anybody else like to say anything I just want you know we sign those or twice resolutions congratulations to you all this is a really nice piece I I don't remember seeing something like this before maybe we got this in the past but nicely done and thank you so much and for all those who participate on the cleanups the whole county really thanks you so much mr. Oakley Oh behalf all the board we certainly appreciate everything y'all do for us because we depend on you and our citizens depend on Yin and it shows and y'all done a great job and we certainly appreciate it thank you Thank You Trisha Wells now I agree and I say it over and over you are the ones that make us look good so truly appreciate it I'm truly appreciate your engagement and your your buy-in and your trust in Pasco County and there's no doubt you know who you work for which is the residents of this

county I can tell you the Moon Lake clean up to be out there with some of you and to see the interaction with the with the residents and actually see how grateful they are that we're doing that I know you don't always get the opportunity we don't always get the opportunity to do that so I think for us to do that a few times a year is great not to mention the other Awards when it comes to leadership but you said it best it's about your team you know you get out of the way let the team do it he's trying yourself with great people you're gonna be successful that's that's why I feel that's five have been so successful here with the county because of each one of you and and quite frankly the other 2,500 employees so thank you but this is a huge accomplishment a huge honor I hope you all realized like this is a huge deal that you're here that you've you've been acknowledged and and you should be very proud of that your family should be very proud of that I know that we are so it's pretty damn awesome dang awesome sorry I don't have a bleep I still need to go back to Commissioner Mariano and you know my 15 years here as a commissioner watching everything progress in a very strong and positive way but would based upon customer service has been phenomenal mr. wells like he started off with their first cleanup that cleanup went so well that it's spring loaded everything else to go for us to get more cleanups and I'd say that people clamoring not only and those neighborhoods to come back again this year so put your book but more work but I've got other neighborhoods that want to get done as well which were working on as well that's a testament to the satisfaction and appreciation they have for what you've done Christina what you've done with the crew up there at Sunwest has been nothing nothing short of phenomenal I mean from the day we turned it over to you the improvement that have just gone on the attitudes up there have been absolutely phenomenal it's really just changed the whole game and making that Park really flourish but for all of you for all your service I mean this county is just raising and raising the level of expectation and it's all because of you guys so thank you we're Sunwest where's that Kenny mr. biles yes sir just real quick want to say thanks to this team they didn't outstanding job this year and I we passed out the packet of all the branch winners so that you could see what some of the the ones that aren't getting recognized today but what what they did at the branch level and I'll say that with 2,700 employees out there doing great work every day they show up for work or every shift and this is just a tip of the iceberg of some of the work going on throughout the county and so they couldn't do that without y'all given us the ability to do that and then us relying and trust in on them to do that to do the great work that they do so outstanding team but there were no losers in this because every team that

you look in here and every individual you see in the packet did an outstanding job this year and they will get recognized at the branch level then we have department level winners we continue to improve this program every year and next year it'll be a little better so we're gonna continue to do that so thank you for your support and they did an outstanding job and you know I'm glad they're getting organized today Thank You Commissioner stark you had a question for me I did is Captain Michael Shelton here be sure and read what what what what transpired during that event my goodness thank you so much to our fire rescue team and this was not easy this year which is good and we went through and I think spent quite a bit of time debating and rehashing at the executive level of the winners and everyone that was submitted was great and outstanding and again this this is a group that rose to the top and so we thank them for that but everybody there are no losers in this group it was great work throughout the organization well I'm glad we're doing this so here's what we're gonna do we have resolutions we like to present to everybody and we're gonna do probably four different pictures today okay we have time we're gonna do a group with all the award winners then we're gonna do a picture with just the community cleanup team and then we're gonna do one with just miss Gordon then we're gonna do one with just mr. Ortiz okay so we're going to have four different pictures we're doing alright so let's come down our resolutions are to the left so we will we will hand those out yeah and I need the entire diet if you don't mind [Music] maybe just one by one we'd like to present a resolution and then we'll come back here and we're going to take a big picture all right so congratulations go back here for a second [Music]

of residents meet with me about this issue and so if you recall the Mike Lee ranch that was out there on strauber that we looked at purchasing through a lamp it we weren't able to to purchase it it has been purchased by an individual and they they cleared the whole front and in the close-up I'm really frustrated that you can't see it here but the sidewalk stops at that property and if you know how narrow strauber is and it's now dumping everybody into the street because they've cleared that walkway area where people used to walk and now now the kids that are going to the bus stop down the street everyone's walking in the street and we have crew out there I don't know what it takes to get something put in there if we could talk to the property owner or what but we now have a safety issue going on out there on strauber there's three photos so if you could huh you didn't get the other ones there what okay well I show some photos where you pull out and see you can see that this is a gap between two and the bus stop is down on the corner and so they're now walking down strauber that's a there's no lights it's not it's not good situation and quite a number of the residents out there have brought that to my attention separately so just want to bring that to your attention with that I would move to approve motion there we go all in favor aye opposed same sign motion passes thank you and that does it for the consent we have no regular other regular items we were walking but I will take care of that walk on during Commissioner items when I speak with that I'm moving on to Commissioner Oakley do you have anything sir first I would like to be so thankful that we had the groundbreaking for Ridge Road people been looking for that for I know it's been on the books for about since 1998 I think so 21 or 22 years have been there with our engineers working but the project itself had been talked about in that road has been there been an idea in the making for over 30 years what I understand so when people talk sometimes about that Road was never planned to go through there it was planned to go through there and he's now come to fruition this got started we did the groundbreaking so it's a great great time in Pasco County these things worked out gives another avenue for our citizens on the west side of the county to go to the east when inclement weather and the storm weather is coming in hurricanes and get to safety so I appreciate that happening and I know all of us were there speaking on it and talking about it just it's a great thing in Pasco the next thing I like to thank Ralph Lera for our visit to Tallahassee I've been to Tallahassee three years during my being on the County Commission this is the best meeting we've had as County Commission in Tallahassee I've seen we just have so much connection there with with our leaders we got with the Senate for the governor in the house all those members so certainly appreciate and puts us in a line for a

lot of good things to happen here in Pasco County and and we got things going the right direction we're actually one of the fastest growing counties and in Pasco and so it stands to reason that we should be aligned this way but we've been very fortunate in Pasco to have the leadership we've had in the house and also the Senate that's gotten here over the years not just now but over the years all those things appreciate and thank Ralph for all the work he did to align us for all the meetings and all we had while we were out in Tallahassee number three is I'd like to thank Margaret Smith and her group on getting and her department of with the signs for the no parking signs on East 54 going toward 98 east of Zephyrhills the fact of it is as I was hunting with chef Grady judge this past November and he brought my attention and I reached out to Margaret and it was in progress but we I think we got it moved too long and the sign group came together and got science rayon in there up and we're issuing warnings and citations a daily daily since we've been had the signs of no parking yet there's a Polk County side and there's a Pasco County side and also swiftlet thanks with MIT for their efforts also because they have part of that for this an area of where they do a lot of mud boggin and going on property and it's created a lot of issues and actually people have died in that area so surf grade judge mentioned to me that he'd been trying to get Pasco County to move because he had already moved to put signs on on the south side of that road and hadn't had a lot of help getting our side covered but we did and we got it there just as as planned and and he's aware of it I reached out to him and let him know so but you got now Polk County Sheriff and also Pasco County Sheriff officers working together to keep that cleaned up so it's a great thing in Pasco and get those kind of things done next I I've been looking at different things and I took it on on my own to pull up the contracts for county attorney and County Administrator and we're looking at them and looking at the dates and I've got a few questions about it so but today's renewal day of mr. Stein Snyder and his position for his neck suit here and welcome aboard but I in fact of it is in and you can correct me miss town center from and if I'm wrong because I reading it and I picked up certain issues the only way we can change if we have calls or not have calls is 120 days prior to your what renewal date I guess we have to notify you by writing so the question came to me is how do I do that I can't I don't feel like I do that by myself because it takes the board so that's why I brought it to the board here at the dais to talk about it and who does who does the writing of it so curious I wouldn't think I'd do it but maybe this board would do that the way those provisions are designed are that at at a board meeting prior to that 120 day writer I would bring my contract to you that I wanted changes or or a board member would would bring it to the rest of the board and then the board would

vote on they would want changes so it could happen with one board member bringing it right but it has to be but we're not notified of 120 days now are we know is there a way we can be and I'm just this is just questions this is not for any calls or anything I'm just a doe because 120 days was six months ago right and that and that's designed so that if if there's if there is a if renegotiation the contract needs to occur there's a six month period for that renegotiation to occur I believe mr. biles contract is shorter than that contractor 75 days out mine his due dates May 1st mine was consistent with the county administrator when I was hired John's was 120 days back then right and that's what that's what generated that for mine I will say that the administrators contract back then had a provision that they that he had to notify the board of that hundred and twenty days and he forgot he forgot and we had to we had to take a probe it a provision we had to extend his contract in an emergency oh because he hadn't because the contract said he would give them 120 days notice no this was this was when he still wanted to be here and he came to me and said I forgot and I said well in essence that means you retire at the end of your term so we brought it we brought back an extension I think the thought always was in my mind that the your staffs would would keep track of that if right well would it be in line if we had a notice to the board of that 120 days prior to and also had an accountability of your department or to bring that to us or would that not be I mean I mean because I'm not saying I don't know of anything you're doing wrong I'm not here about that I'm just questioning because so nobody thanks about but everything seems to flow good something so if if the board would like me to put it on my tickler for 120 days prior in into it will be now in two years oh yeah I could I could do that that's actually a year and a half year and a half true but we would need notice prior to that 120 right so so we had 30 days to that and report a month ahead of it yeah we can we can do that that my issue is if it gets dropped for some reason what does that do to the contract but and that's why there wasn't a provision in the contract that said it had to it had to be done in it that's what my contract didn't have that that's why this administrators contract didn't have it especially after the issue with mr. Gallagher well I can I can control my calendar in 20 days because commissioners get busy and we're right we're not paying attention to that that closely you know but I would think that would be a good perfect time for some type of accountability and how your departments being worked or how you don't just bring us up to speed how things going I mean we've had questions likely of facts of when we have a new organ that you've got to stack of Ordinances but if you bring in a new and it goes underneath the stack and how that flows

so I think that's something that we need to know anyway let me let me ponder the easiest way to give you that note okay and and I'll bring that back at your next meeting all right that'd be fine and mr. biles says his date is his date for rehire is May 1st and you've got 75 days out in front of that I believe is that right mr. Bao correct so I mean we'd only hire and fire to people and when things goes on and and all the staff and all the department heads and things that go on if we dislike certain things and we're reaching out to administrator or attorney's office about some things are not going the way they should go and we don't get good answers and we you know our citizens look to us for good answers all the time and if we can't reach out to your directors and get answers back in a timely manner then we're held up on giving our citizens the answers they want I mean some people think they're you know they ask you in the equation or whatever but they have the right to know we have as commissioners the right to give them our ear to hear and speak for them and find out those answers for them I have some issues that are still standing out there that I haven't got answers for and I've gotten to the point but in three years and I get tired of not having answers for certain things in our County and I'm not gonna name them but we need to know our citizens are asking and they deserve to know and they deserve to have us act for them they elected us to act for them and run this County so if we don't reach out and talk to our administrator and our county attorney and and it's direct administrative directors and we can't get answers and somebody's got an answer for it so it falls back unless if we can't help give suggestions to the administrator about some of those directors that are doing a great job or not doing a great job if we can't reach out and get answers and corrections toward that and customer service very important I mean then then something's wrong then we have to make a change and that's something I think's very important to this board and importance of citizens Pasco County they put us here to lead they didn't put us here to follow somebody else so we're here to make those decisions only way we can make those decisions if we've got the year of our Kent administrator and our county attorney that we get things done the way we wish they would be done for the betterment of our citizens in our county so it's a moving targets that we want to keep up doing a good job so I think with that pretty well covers a lot of things are happening in Pasco and a lot of good things are coming you ever heard the story there's an old story about when you finish that Christmas dinner with all the fixings and the turkey and everything and the ladies come by and pick up your plate and they always tell you hold onto your fork because the best is yet to come so I can tell you here in Pasco County hold on to your fork because the best is yet to come a lot of things good things were happening Thank You Commissioner

oakley's comment you know when I first became commissioner I know that we did a review on Michelle Baker you know I know it's public record I CT I'm fine with that I'm an IDE and I've spoke you know I meet with Dan every month so him and I have candid conversations monthly I would be open you know maybe I don't know how other boards do it maybe a quarterly maybe it's a quarterly update from each of us to Jeff and to Dan talking about the good the bad opportunities just throwing it out there I'm ok with that I think it helps them know exactly where they stand from us and we're not up here discussing it you know and then we would all know with the sunshine obviously we but we would all be able to get copies of it and see how each of us feel I think you know I can tell you looking back from Michelle I was very very very detailed in my expectations of her I thought it was important but I thought it was important quite frankly for the residents to see how I felt she was doing at the time and and the improvements that needed to be done so I'm just throwing it out there I I think that I know Dan and Barbara have worked on trying to revamp the the way that they document employees and stuff and I think it's important you don't know what you don't know and if you're not documenting it good and bad I just I don't how do you know how you can approve how do you know what you're doing great I'm just I would be okay with that as a board member to to document something for for both of them quite frankly and again I think it's positive I'm just just my two cents worth but I didn't well we talked about the County administrators getting back was how they changed Dan art to also give us so we need it for both of them actually to be accountable whichever way but to notifies before that 75 days and and have accountability for this board miss chairman yes I think it's you know a good point that that notification should come early and then should come from each one of them ahead of time and to follow on commissioner Wells point I think he's on the money I mean champ a regional planning council has a very detailed set of lines that you can do the you know how was this year's report so I think at a minimum an annual report would be good that should be on a file that we can even discuss as far as it goes on it gives them the opportunity to to kind of look to where the hot-button issues are for each of the commissioners that they need to address and it's in print so they can actually see it and then go work on it so at a minimum that but if you want to be more frequent that's fine okay so I think what I'm hearing is a little bit a suggestion of an annual report from the county attorney's office in the county administrator's office to this board is that what your state's even for our own evaluation of County Commissioners evaluating how they've been doing okay so you would like to do an annual evaluation so you're saying a lot coming on so I'm trying to roll that was my point again it's something we can

maybe talk we used to do that I don't know how we got away from that then again I it's not a I don't think it's a bad thing I think being as transparent as possible is a good thing but I think it may be since we're having these conversations it might be something that we do as a board in the next month or two for each of them again you know I don't know if Jeff if you want to maybe see how other counties maybe you're sighs do it there's an example I know the review we had for Michelle is very old you know just from what I remember but I haven't seen it so I don't know Dan if you're the county you're at before if if those commissioners did it or those council folks like again I'd it's not a bad thing I think when you you know again it just you lay out expectations and how folks are doing it's a positive what's up I would let the county attorney respond to the question I can provide the the evaluation form that I had provided several years ago to the board I can ask Tampa and Hillsborough and Pinellas and manatee whether or not they have a more updated form but there was a form that was generated for the board juice three four years ago something like that that's okay that's all I have Thank You Commissioner Starkey okay I have some photos that you're not gonna be able to see cousin our screens aren't working but um first of all one of the coolest events of my life I think was my trip to DC to watch the China trade deal oh that's actually when we were coming out but it was really something to walk in I walked I literally walked into the East Room with Henry Kissinger he wasn't walking as straight up as I was but um he had the help of a cane and a helper but it was this incredibly cool I didn't even realize it but I stood in line for 20 minutes with the new CEO of Boeing because we were all at the front of line to get into the White House grounds if you know that how that gate works I told him we're all rooting for him we want manufacturing jobs so uh but but very cool experience there were three commissioners from Florida there and just just just really a very cool experience and I do expect that this trade deal is going to have some immediate good effects on Florida in agriculture I don't know if you know that Florida is a is what's called a cow-calf operation and so we breed we have a lot of breed cattle and we ship our cattle out west after what before their one-year-old maybe oh yeah six or eight months yeah so so we can now ship live cattle to China because that's been banned for over 15 years so that'll be really good for the Florida cattle ranchers and also will open up a lot of Ag opportunities that I see Florida being able to take a part of and this is just phase one so more to come but the tariffs remain and China has to perform before the tariffs go away so just really a great bill or agreement the more you look at it the more you realize how much how much good it will do for the United States and I wasn't able to go to Tallahassee with

you all because of that but as you know I sent Danny and I heard it was a great trip for everyone but one of the things that I've been working on that is not part of our agenda here but have been working on this nationally is reciprocity for military spouses and this has to do with licensing and I've been on quite a few calls with the White House this week it was with the vice president Pence's wife and some governor's who are who have done great things for military spouses in Florida we have 22 bases military bases and it'll affect all those bases I think there's 65,000 active sixty-five active-duty military families that call Florida home and so the the idea is is that when a military spouse moves and I know we have a lot of former military here my daughter included she has to get a new license every and in every state she moves to and it takes time and money and frankly greatly inhibits the financial abilities of my daughter's family and other military family so I am hoping that Florida will do what some of the other states have done and and accept other states licenses my daughter is licensed she's a physician assistant she's license in Florida Alabama Colorado and Washington she didn't even bother in Hawaii so just was a lot so I'm for four or five states this year have enacted reciprocity and I'm I'm hoping will be one if I'm so I'll continue to work on that and I'm going up for the fact legislative conference as you know I shared the federal federal committee and I'll be working on this again up there also I participated in the the fact call this week on it was on preemption with short-term rentals so I think we need to pay attention to that and see what happens as you know when I was in when I was chair of tourism I was concerned that we we have a lot of short-term rentals that are not collecting money and the hotel rooms are collecting the money it's not fair to me it's it's all or none and one one business shouldn't get an advantage that another one doesn't as I personally think just like so Airbnb collects the money and sends it to the state but VRBO and home away which is now the same company and there are many other companies but only focus on those two they say it's the county's responsibility to collect that money individually and no County can keep a calendar of every every home in every weekly rental or every three-day rental and collect that money so I think we all need to to help get our stay and at nako make sure that we're all getting HR VRBO and home away to collect the money like Airbnb does let's see the Starkey gap are there others so that's Ivanka in the black and white dress that's the head of the C Boeing CEO and uh I can I think the president is blocking the view of Henry Kissinger he's sitting down anyway that was the East Room I have another photo so it's funny last week I Sam benek the project manager of Starkey gap and I drove the trail it's fabulous I think it's it's already we're seeing

people riding on it before it was ever opened but we have some challenges and it's hard for you to see since our screens aren't working but as we came back across down Stark down 54 and to turn left back on the Starkey there is a cyclist stuck in the middle of State Road 54 and I think some of you guys weren't at the MPO meeting but I received emails from a father who lives in longleaf who got stuck both ways with his family on the median on State with 54 with cars going 50 60 miles an hour past him so this is gonna be a problem I talked with secretary Gwynn that was at a session with him last week and he's going to meet me up here this week i we cannot get the overpass quick enough and so work but we're you know looking for the safest short term solutions but I I'm going to predict someone's going to get hit cars are parking along Trinity Boulevard because we don't have a trailhead and we we think we've identified some good temporary spots for a trailhead and in that trail really officially silently opened on Saturday so the Tampa Bay partnership in partnership with the US Chamber of Commerce selected tant tamp as one of their target cities to to help with workforce and they've got a program going called Tampa Bay works they did a study of what the top sector should be for their focus for workforce training they settled on manufacturing and health care where the top two that needed help in the Tampa Bay area they brought together J Bowl Neilson a bunch of manufacturers from around the Tampa Bay area and they had meetings and they selected am skills and skills as a program to do their test pilot last week we held a actually Saturday there was a boot camp in Pinellas County with I think over twenty twenty manufacturers and when asked how many how many people do you think they're going to get to come to this boot camp Jabil said four and Honeywell's saying like three because they know it's so hard to recruit manufacturing well we had we had almost fifty so it's huge success they were so impressed with it and this was a one day training program to see if they wanted to go into a more in-depth look at a manufacturing career and we will be having a two-week boot camp that am skills will be running and it's funded by the Tampa Bay work so really proud of our program and its accolades for the manufacturers in the Tampa Bay area I had a meeting last week with with Keith and Mike and some other staff and I see Swift mud is in attendance and I I gave him a little heads-up that this was coming but it's we have a we have many wall fields in the county and really only one has a really nice recreational program attached to it and that's a Starkey preserve so it's my hope that we can start having discussions on how can we get more recreational abilities in some of the other well fields and so the first thing to do is have an inventory of what we have and what's available already in some of those well fields and how can the county

and swift mud and Tampa Bay water work better to provide some kind of amenities in those parks like I just went on our parks and recs website because I was thinking about the green swamp because my sister-in-law was out hiking there this weekend but if you go to our website there's no mention of the green swamp well it's not a county park it's a swift mud park but I guarantee you there are a lot of people that have moved here who have no clue what's with MIT is and would not have a clue how to even look up where other recreational opportunities are so I want to try and marry our Parks Department and swift mud Recreation a little better and where where we can have our County get more involved in again opportunities on those parts some are owned by Pinellas County some are owned by the city st. Pete and some are you know swath my properties like green swamp so so that's an initiative that I'm getting going I'm keeping Danny very very busy HUD changes came this week on zoning for low-income housing and I'd like I'd like Ralph or somebody to tell us what these changes are and how it affects us I'm not sure if the county attorney saw I think I forwarded it to you and I Ford it to mr. biles but they just changed a bunch of rules that have to do with zoning and in housing and let's see T Barda yet no I'm sorry I've been very busy t Barda we had a workshop a couple weeks ago and T Barda currently gets its funding a little bit from the counties and then we have recurring funds coming from the state and we don't think those funds are going to be there they're not forever if they want you know we need to be able to stand on our own two feet and in order to have a regional transit plan it's going to require regional cooperation so we are working our way through figuring out what that regional funding up could be we are short to Governor appointments auntie Barda and one of which I'm trying very hard at least one to have be a Pasco County voice because right now I'm the only voice on there Helzberg County has three boats they've got the mayor they've got their Hillsboro person and then they have the person who's in charge of heart and then they have a governor's appointee and the st. you know Pinellas counties like that as well but Hernando has one voice actually has two they have their commissioner and they have their government a governor appointee but we have one so and they all agree that we need another voice on there so I've got a call out to do a Mitchell we're trying very hard we did reduce our meeting schedule from 12 to 9 and and I hope that we can get more business people because of that but we we need I need everyone's help we need to get at least one more voice auntie Barda and maybe two and I think that's it thank you thank you sure I would agree with you auntie Bart I know I said that many a times we got the stick on that still don't agree with that legislation that was passed but if he can't do it I mean let us know we need somebody on there yeah and then just send us a public email and we can all send a letter of

support to the governor's office so thank you for that Commissioner Wells vice chairman wells I wish what Teavana they would have a more central meeting place instead of having to go all the way down to we move around I was in Manatee County Friday had to spend the night in South they beat I used to be at the F job building by USF and now they're moving we can't go there because they don't they don't that you have to livestream some good updates thank you just I know you all miss listen to mr. parks today I know he was back in November you know we're working with him Andy you know we're working with them trying to look at maybe trying to purchase a property and I feel for the guy you know he's paying the MSB you for Magnolia Valley which is supposed to alleviate flooding and he as flooding and has had flooding it's just a it's unique situation there I've no Swift mud is gonna be getting involved to to look at some some things that have been done by the neighbor so just so you all know we are working with mr. parks and have been you know he had told staff last week that he wasn't open for us maybe looking at purchasing it but he obviously said today that he is so I'm gonna personally go out and meet with them too so I just I just want you to know I feel for him I've met him three years ago and he had some flooding and it breaks my heart but it's a it's a closed closed basin through there so when we are working with them so just so I could bring that up and I like that we all got an email from Covanta and I think it's important you know I look back at the you know the vision of the board back you know when my father was on the board when it came to stop putting garbage in the ground let's start burning it there to build this you know energy from waste facility and I just wanted to give you some updates and we've done just that it's pretty cool and again I think it's cool for the public to look at these numbers you know we processed over three hundred forty-one thousand tons I mean notable solid waste last year energy from waste reduce the waste volume by ninety percent saving over four hundred fifty three thousand cubic yards of landfill landfill space they said that this is the equivalent to almost six spaceship earth buildings and Epcot I mean it's a it's a big deal you know we've you know a year and a half ago when we had a different act besides mister karbala you know we were looking at trying to put more into landfills and and you know we don't need to do that so we produced two hundred thousand megawatt hours of energy which would which would provide enough electricity for over seventeen thousand households in the community and we recycled almost ten thousand tons of ferrous metals we recycled twelve hundred tons of non-ferrous metals including nearly $10,000 worth of discarded coins so you know in in as of December 31st facility is gone three thousand days without a osha recordable injury that's seven years that's pretty tells you the kind of job cove ants is doing and if as board members have you

ever been out it's it's pretty cool the technology we have here in Pasco and then after them they competed completed the EPA stack testing and the Covanta Pasco facility emissions averaged over 92 percent below the EPA I thought that was pretty cool and then I'll close with this while we believe you may know that our waste process and recycling enabled us to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by three hundred forty-one thousand tons realize also that had that same waste gone to a landfill there would have been less energy production 20 or 30 times more greenhouse gases emitted and no metals recycled so I just wanted to give a shout out to the team out there they're doing unbelievable job and the vision of that board to get us where we are today it's pretty amazing so thank you thank you and to touch on Vice Chairman wells that energy plant was such a awesome move by the Boyd way back when to take that big step it is something we still get a workout as far as our agreements coming up as far as trying to get more money for electricity which is I know the FAC is wants to be on top of as well but there to keep the pressure to that and I'll say I've met with some people from pause our local company here that now has 70 employees they want to work with us to use that Ash site out there and actually make that four rope more Road base I think Mike I know we're in contact right now conversation but sharing with the board the more that they can use even if it's 10 or 20 percent but what their base would be takes away those mountains that are out there that are so expensive to rebuild that if we can keep on pulling that stuff away I think would be better off but again Covenanter has been a phenomenal job for us I do have a few issues and one of them was brought up today so lemme Lee I know we had the discussion before but let's say talk about carry lane we had someone come in and buy a road for tax or on a tax deed sale I've got other other situations in that whole area mr. Stein Schneider is there a way that we can actually keep this from happening and I know when we look at roadways going through I think I know we just signed what if not on this meeting the previous meeting where we do a and we can eminent domain of necessity well we can actually say we need this road for people to get it out and we can actually take the road back well there's no eminent domain of necessity it that there's you can you can engage an eminent domain to take the look to take the road again or they have if they are landlocked they have what's called a statutory way of necessity but even if the tax collector sells the underlying fee it's still subject to the roadway easement so he even if he owns the base he can't they've had a historic way of necessity over that road my guess is there is also a stent there is an easement of record over that road as a private road the fact that he owns the underlying fee doesn't doesn't negate that with that so let me just go touch

because you've at least covered my the basic part of what I want to take a look at what I what I don't want to see is this guy here from the pictures of if y'all got a look at him he's digging out large amounts of sand dirt which gonna lower the roads can make everything Road like the lady says there next to her even if we don't own the road he owns the road is there a way we can let's say do a paving assessment get the road maintained the way it should be maintained I've got other roads up and around the area where a guy again bought it for a tax to eat sale and he's not maintaining the road and the people can't get in and around so much the Postal Service says it won't come out but our mercy vehicles can get in what can we do to put pressure and effect a situation where the road gets maintained if they don't do it that we do it and we assess it for it so we're talking private roads private road tonight I'm on this bot and that public road well it shouldn't matter the the title issue that has occurred shouldn't matter you you you've got you've got private roads that aren't being maintained regardless of who owns the underlying title all over the county [Music] that's the Jets the general problem with a private road is they're supposed to maintain their own their own length you know that if it was public it would be our duty to maintain it's private it's their duty to maintain and worse you can't spend public funds on it because it's private it's it's the improvement of private property their Attorney General's opinions on that there it's possible that the board could adopt an ordinance that would make it an enforcement issue to maintain the road I think but you're gonna then get into the scenario where are they not maintained they're not maintaining it because there's no no Association to maintain there it's in a not affluent section of the county they they can't afford to maintain the road we can look at the issue of whether or not you can you can use the P vast process but but historically we've advised you that unless you have a public easement you can't use the be passed process I mean if I get a situation where this guy has a private road and he's destroying the road and everything around it this if there's a way we can do something to maintain that road in a better condition because literally I mean it looks like it's going down about four feet maybe more just by the pitchers hard to say but there's got to be a way we can make them hopefully if there's a way we can find a way to get that road fixed the way it should be and not let them even change the character of the road something I'm on the line where they just can't come in and go dig a road up says if you could just say it's well it's my Road nothing you can do about it's private road well is he digging Carrie Lane itself or is he digging his property adjacent to Carrie Lane it looked like it might have been the road

itself I mean maybe maybe need staff to go take a look at it like maybe add and I don't think code is gonna be able to look at it specifically but I think you're gonna need to have a road construction personnel that is gonna be able to say okay this was dangerous for the road I mean mica can go look at did they dig some stuff but we need someone to go look at okay where is the road is he digging out the road is it unsafe for drainage or or other uses but I think my Quran you need at least a road person to go out there some with some expertise it there may be an issue of whether or not the activity that he's engaged in is mining at this point and he's doing with it without a permit and that that clearly is something that you've already got ordinances on the books okay I'll have a filter for the pictures which you can't just go so we could get a report on that next meeting all right Tim Brooks based on a special concern years ago when I first was elected we had flooding issues all over that was one of the areas and we wanted to do something about it so we made a base in a special concern it was a second one in the county now that we've made the major investment out there we don't need that I will tell you six months ago we had a meeting with Jeremy Harding and staff I thought those are going to get addressed it seems like it hasn't been addressed so I'm gonna make a motion that we look at removing timber Oaks based on a special concerns subject the staff report coming back to us I need to make a motion submission to bring it back let's go let's make it aggenda I'm gonna bring it back to us it's it's it's it's affecting everybody in that whole area to affect any development an area I see you're saying I'm just trying I'm just trying to figure out where the motion is today because we can't make a motion to get rid of it not to get rid of it just to get staff to bring it back you do that well I can give direction but I see my car Bella nodding his head we can get it back so you want a time frame like I'd like to have it back at the next meeting over here in Newport Qi action to make a motion that's all more than this thing you know we can well sometimes sometimes a good discussions happen after well you didn't make a motion it wasn't motion made mr. chair please I wouldn't attorney's office that requires the land development code amendment I'm pretty sure so that means go through a process it's going to go to Planning Commission and to hearings before the board County Commissioner right so I'm just asking I wanted a report to come back to the bar for a report yeah okay I wasn't sure if he was asking no no I want the report to come back to us we can put it in motion to make it go to the next step so that'll be my motion move it forward to bring it back of the next meeting over here yeah okay we can do it I know so it was action but go ahead all in favor thank you actually up on the screen there's a picture on leisure lane if you take a look at this video there's a lady the first trailer that's going to be coming up here shows you a

lady that was on NBC News where she had trouble she had to go build a fence because if people are right beside her that's the trailer right there that's the fence she put up in the background you can't quite see the picture but I'm driving in my car filming a lot as we go along there's a bunch of homeless people have taken out over that whole area look over a few more clear Lots coming up you're going to see we're home got burnt down we've torn it down look at the trash is built up in there it's it's it's mind-blowing that what's up there and the attitude it's up there is bad so when mr. Rocha was here talking about people going from green key to there I'm gonna tell you they've got couches they get mattresses it's a regular campground out there they bought a cooker out there it's something we need to get not only just code enforcement Sheriff's Department we need to get a grappling truck out there and just get that stuff cleaned out this is something where I don't care if we need to go fence the properties off whatever but something's going to happen is we have taken a situation with an opportunity to do something real good and it's not turning out real good right now I do have other pictures which I didn't show you but they've got three other homes under construction we took care of a couple of things that we had to do with it were the properties of budding them also other I think is three other homes being built right now so we are going to make a difference but I'm going to tell you as well as working on an infrastructure project for the 1.21 point five million for the substance of super conversion it's got to go on we need to address that issue now to get that area up there cleaned out it's just not right for those people have to live through that let me ask you a question - and this will probably go to Cathy and see if you know but where's the coalition's involvement in this situation out there if any as we get funding from the county to you know work on these I don't know what the colors do but I will tell you this you know this this past weekend I actually called up the the Rope Center try to get a couple of homeless people do some work for some folks that I that need little bit of help the Rope Center people were busy I couldn't get anybody that weekend both Saturday and Sunday they're busy work and they couldn't couldn't do anything these guys here I don't know what they're doing but they're just sitting on the couch on a perfectly good day where they could be working doing nothing now I will tell you down in that area I was alerted by some people that were in the area and they said there's a church that goes out there and feeds these people too so we're not helping them we're only keeping them there causing more of a detriment and that affects the whole shopping plaza affects the neighborhoods around it and I don't know if the collisions do it maybe cathing I talked to it do you know anything what they're doing Kathy Pearson assistant county ministry the public services Don Anderson the president of the Homeless

Coalition will be on your calendars very soon briefing you on the quarterly basis on what they're going to be doing Marci s burg is our own Community Development Director and she is the chair of the COC I will tell you immediately right now they are partnering with Metro ministries and we have AmeriCorps team in place coming to this county to start doing the hot spots and outreach into these camps so that they want to fill you in on so that is going to be happening so stay tuned they are working on a plan we at the point account coming up on the 28th so there'll be more areas identified there too so hey Kathy I appreciate that too but just Commissioner marianas point though this is happening now and it's really out in the open so these aren't hidden camps in the woods this is like in the day there's a daylight you know in a high-traffic area that everybody is seeing I honestly think that Alysha needs to do some more one-on-one on that in that area on that street and try to find some housing for these folks or help clean up the area I mean again I mean this isn't that again this isn't hidden in the woods these are people when setting up camps well they might have kids in the wood but they're obviously out in the open so I think they need to be traversing that area on a regular basis with them on the priority this way I think they really should that's my opinion go ahead commissioner um so I'm wondering if it's possible that we could place a deputy there in one of those homes lots of times happen the deputy and the car there if one's willing you know we do it in the parks and I was also thinking about that for Green Key Beach I mean I think that could help be a deterrent and I would I would vote for funding to go towards putting a trailer or something there as quick as possible if we could find someone who's willing to tell up there I will tell you I don't know this is actually one of our code and for some people actually was thinking about if you could get a home there he'd go do it so I can bring that down the road I won't mention by name but I think that would be a good thing I'll do I would do code enforcement and a police officer that's fine a sheriff's deputy I'm with you all the way many more I have one item I need a vote on before break if I can about how many items do um I do have a few so if you want to just do your item make sure yeah just because for timing things you know I don't come back to the rest you don't mind no yeah all right no I'm actually do too okay because they're both real quick I appreciate so the first one I'll ask the commissioners as you know the Wiregrass Ranch Sports Complex is opening later this year we have us we have some media hardhat tours that are coming up in the next few days and with that I have a request from a private operator rad Sports to officially change the name in the agreement to wire grant Sports campus of Pasco County if you're familiar with the agreement it needed to include Wiregrass ranch and it needed

include Pasco County I've been called a complex but their thought is and I would agree with them that campus sounds better for that and this was allowing to put the signage out so after speaking with them I'm definitely fully supportive that change also reached out to the wire grass branch folks there an agreement to so we don't have any everybody's on board so if I can get a motion for that I'll give your motion we get a motion for removing emergency first most motion to hear an emergency motion have a second all in favor aye and then I got a motion to approve that move the name moves the name change okay move have a second all in favor aye opposed same something thank you last one as you know we have an advisory board so if I could ask one of my commissioners to please appoint dr. Todd Yong tech I'm sure some of you know dr. Yan Tech well he is an emergency room physician at Advent health of Wesley Chapel great guy veteran USF grad for all us of people out there but he's very very well known in the community he's gonna be a great addition to that EMS advisory board and you can you can come you can combine it move the emergency and approve okay most moving emergency second emergency okay and then we can add the motion to that to move motion okay thank you so all in favor aye all opposed same side thank you very much I appreciate it back to you mr. Mariano okay thank you thank you for that nope my pleasure I want to say kudos to staff they have been working on the country-club estates paving project that pipes are in the ground they look like they did a phenomenal job in beacon woods they're doing some cleanup right now and I think Mike you can tell me better that that crew from beacon woods when they finished there that may be heading up the street to go clean out and Country Club estates as well I don't know they're doing a great job and be good with when we put those three giant pipes and majestic when I broke down a few years ago they cleaning out in the up side out of it which is phenomenal work Mike really taking it all out and I think he'll take care of the Louis I just as well so they're doing a great job up there the I'm gonna wait to talk about in in the Gulf when we get back from break because I think might take a little bit of time but I did tell the accounting attorney's office as well as our administrator and that I wanted to talk about that issue the links golf course Jeff that's still on schedule for next month to come back to us reduction yes it will be at your at your probably your second February meeting okay and the Tempe resiliency Coalition had their big event that I left too early in the last board meeting was a phenomenal term out the the the room was packed discussions were good I think it's going to lead to a lot of good things where we can actually work to building along the coast which i think is critical for West Pasco which is all of Pasco to go forward so a lot of good discussions were made there you

know Jan along did a follow up coordinating staff had some great presentations Commissioner Starkey made it down to and I think we're pretty pleased what we saw yeah and the reached well I'm going to want to cut it they will just talk to us I'll talk about it after the afternoon maybe yeah we're at noon time so we're journalists thank you [Music] you [Music] okay good afternoon I'd like to call back to order of the Pasco County Board of County Commission meeting for January 21st to 2020 if I can remind everybody to please silence your cellular devices at this time thank you we're gonna move on with our public hearings we will now proceed with the public hearing agenda starting with item p1 which is our ordinances madam clerk do we have proof for item p1 we do Tampa Bay Times January 10th 2020 Thank You mr. chairman is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners relating to campaign ethics amending chapter 115 article 1 entitled ethical campaign practices of Pasco County Code ordinances providing for applicability defining the term candidate providing for voluntary participation in in ethical campaign practices requiring the filing of an executed statement within the specified time period providing for a statement of ethical campaign practices creating a new section 115 - 8 solicitation of voters providing for modification repealer severability inclusion into Pasco County Code and providing for an effective date mr. chairman members the board this ordinance has been on the books since approximately 2006 the Supervisor of Elections requested that certain amendments be made we went went through those mainly it's to the statement of ethical campaign practices we went through those changes at introduction it adds a new section regarding the use of amplified devices outside of polling places and I will let mr. supervisor go over the details yes we will bring up the supervisor election sprite Corley normally I give three minutes but I'll give you 30 seconds good afternoon sirs just as mr. Stein's latter eloquently stated agenda item p1 augments the existing Pasco County ethical campaign Practices Act by updating it the original ordinance has been used for 14 years now incorporates language that speaks to civility in the public discourse for candidates running for office within Pasco County in essence this ordinance is a plea for civility if you will amongst those running for office in our great County it's not solely at my request but more importantly rather something the voters not only want but deserve and have asked for many times to me personally many voters have relaid that a tire of the toxicity and a lack of decorum among campaigns and candidates so that's what's the driving force behind this the amendments or augmentations if you will add to or pertain rather to you asking candidates to remain positive and avoid

criticizing their opponent in a personal nature aborting language that is insulting or inappropriate of course now it includes social media and not using a permitting campaign materials that falsifies distorts misrepresent facts remember there was no Twitter Facebook in 2006 lastly as as the county attorney reference that speaks to not using amplified devices that stems from 2016 where we had voters complained they had to endure certain campaign using a bullhorn and it was rather disruptive and they were annoyed at it and nothing could be done well by you all Adele Venus now that'll certainly change that so while this is voluntary the the statement of campaign practices that candidates sign hundreds literally hundreds of candidates have signed this going back 14 years now and certainly while it does not prevent a candidate from being less than truthful or being nasty during their campaign it is my hope that each candidate going forward with better energy and resources throwing the positive campaign and join us in the goal of restoring and maintaining civility in the public discourse Thank You mr. chairman commissioners I ask for your favorable support I'd be happy to answer any questions you all have Thank You mr. Corley I will any questions or comments well thankfully I'm not having to run this year so I don't worry about being lambasted by my opponent this time around right well you'd be nice every day you can be civil every day they should be right yes thank you it's not Mike any questions any comments commissioners talk to you I would just say that I have no objection to sign anything that says civility and good behaviors should be in order and I appreciate that you're addressing a problem that's happened where we couldn't address it and that's with inappropriate things being yelled out front on microphones and not not necessarily about us but in other people's you know campaigns this is a you know early voting place for all different campaigns and it says nothing in my mind to do with incumbency but it has to do with decorum and decency the questions comments yes sir I'm sure you heard or saw that comes from Randy Evans what were your thoughts on what he said Mr Evans didn't reach out to me so I didn't have any discussions with him I kind of wish he had to be honest with you um you're either for stability or not for stability with this ordinance it can't be one of the other so you by supporting this ordinance simply are asking all candidates all candidates regardless of party this is above partisanship clearly it's as commissioner stark eloquently stated is asking to have some decorum among all candidates I don't know how you could possibly be against that to be honest with you but again I was not contacted by Randy I'd love to sit down and talk to him and as you came on the merits of this good ordinance yeah sorry it's my understanding I mean they do this you know all the County students and this happens very frequently you

meant promoting civility yes yes well we all doing the signing this I mean have you ever had a candidate not sign it that's not tomorrow what I was thinking about that this morning I don't believe I've had one and I doesn't inhibit anyone's free speech and from what I could see and we would never want to do that no ma'am be unconstitutional and it's kind of a guideline but not not hard fast rule so I said earlier it's just it's a plea yeah asking candidates to join us and restoring stability because voters are tired of all the negativity and again doesn't prohibit anyone from going down that road but we would ask him to not against their choice yeah so just for the record - if I'm not correct mr. Corley is that you're you're asking Kansas to sign this obviously it can't be required of them they're allowed to sign by law by statute if there's certain documents they have to sign they would not have to sign this you're just asking them to be on board that's correct okay are there questions comments okay with that I'll entertain a motion okay sorry we will have public comment on this anybody in the audience like to speak to this item at this time none it's back to the board so that's a little late but did you want to say something like no you need to go to the Pope you have to go to the podium name an address for the record please I'm Christine bright can you hear me I have a soft voice we can hear your speaker is morning if you turn the thing if you turn it like this there you go thank you very much you guys I'm Christine bright my address is five one zero nine Connor Drive land o lakes florida and I'm the chair of the Pascal unit of the League of Women Voters and I just wonder stand here today and say that the members of the league's strongly support ordinance ordinances which promote civility in our political campaigns were very concerned about the erosion of civility civility and I'm just here to support the amendment thank you ma'am thank you okay I have a motion in a second again being a roll call vote madam clerk please call the roll district one Commissioner Oakley aye district three Commissioner starkey I District four commissioner Wells our district five Commissioner Mariano district two chairman more hi motion passes 5-0 you on to p2 or by the past week Adam over County Commissioner step it well you know what I'm gonna go ahead and call you guys up and let you want to go up here and come up and read it Christine are you know Fermi up here well I think for the cameras sake you probably should be up at the podium thank you Wow she's making her way to the podium I'll read the pub it was published in the Tampa Bay Times December 4th 2019 Thank You Christie Simms with the County Attorney's Office I also have a soft voice right this is an ordinance by the Board of County Commissioners establishing within the unincorporated areas of Pasco County a

registry slash real property registration system for vacant and rental properties providing for definitions requiring registration of vacant properties and rental properties providing registration process and requirements providing for severability providing for inclusion in the Pasco County Code of Ordinances and providing for an effective date commissioners the version that you have in front of you today for final adoption includes the changes that I described to you during the last board meeting which were changes that I made to the ordinance after a series of meetings emails and phone calls with various subject matter experts in the real estate industry and property management industry after making those changes I have not I I've received a few questions regarding clarification etc but I have not received any negative feedback regarding the current version of the ordinance that's before you for adoption so after hearing public comment the County Attorney's Office wouldn't ask you to adopt the ordinance by roll call vote authorized the Chairman's signature on the ordinance and direct board records to transmit the ordinance to the Department of State by electronic mail within 10 days after adoption of the ordinance thank you miss Simms this is a well first of all any comments or questions for the board before I take public before I take public comment well I'm just really glad we've arrived at this day and a pre-shave working with the sheriff I seize here back there and this is really important to the constituents in Pasco County that we take care of this problem I don't know if this will get us all the way to where I think we need to be but I think this is a great first step I myself have received some positive emails from people out in the industry and I look forward to getting this implemented one minute please well could you answer sheriff just feet what can I let her finish for now okay anything else for the board at this time before I call anybody else up okay sheriff knuckle you anything you like to say sir afternoon Thank You mr. wells a Commissioner Starkey Otzi they've been at very strong advocates pushing us forward Christy and the attorney's office been fantastic has been a long process getting here but you know I think we have a product that is very very good and I wish Corley stuck around because lack of civility brings situations like this we have to do something like this and honestly the unspoken people that are out there the silent majority who live around houses that are causing crime causing grief causing issues in their neighborhood where they can't sleep at night that I can't let their kids out at night this is something that will help them bring back their neighborhood so on behalf of them I want to say thank you very much all right thank you so much sir we appreciate your support and help again this is a public

hearing I did see one hand raised but I don't have anybody signed up if you'd like to speak to this item please cut if you'd like to speak this item please come to the podium at this time and state your name and record a name and address for the recognition say good morning good afternoon good afternoon my name is Stephanie riddle I live a 2 1 2 to 1 Kali Rosa Drive in Land O'Lakes my concerns are snowbirds what's the definition of vacant vacant according to the ordinance we're gonna go show me any parcel of land zone or used for residential use in unincorporated Pasco County that is not lawfully occupied by a person with us house parcel continually structure or building snowbirds are to be gone from up to six months to three months this ordinance is will to start in after 60 days so what is vacancy mean is a Snowbird a vacant property so that's sort of one of the questions and there's a lot of seniors that are snowbirds that if you still have to be registered there's a burden possibly on the cost of a real estate agent to be because they have to be a property manager that's it what's the definition of vacant okay thank you thank you next please let me get finished public comment and then we'll go into that thank you good afternoon Joe Farrell to 0:09 Osprey Lane I'm here on behalf of the Central Pasco Association of Realtors and I want to say thank you to Commissioner Wells and do Kristy Sims for first commercial Wells reaching out to us and bringing this issue to our attention and then working with Christie's office and Kristy specifically also Mike Peterson with the greater Tampa Realtors worked real hard on this as well and I think this is one of those times where you have a you have an industry the property manager industry which is survives on slim margins more regulation has come into their their industry and I think in a lot of ways it's gonna make it better and it won't affect their profitability we wholeheartedly support this ordinance we do have one thing that we don't believe should hold up today but we do have a request for the future will be working with Christie on this is some kind of public facing information document that we can disseminate to our membership and Realtors throughout the community and property management folks so that they can get up to speed on this as fast as possible there's gonna be kind of a public information campaign that we're gonna need to do and we look forward to working with them but just want to say thank you to everyone and say this is a pretty good ordinance and we look forward to working with it thank you so much appreciate it thanks for your help we have one person further signed up on this item mr. David P cruse afternoon my name is David Cruz 66 11 carnation way port richey I just wanted to speak in affirmative of this because I feel that it'll bring back property values that have decreased over the years that I've seen over the 40 some-odd years that I've been around here in Pasco County the one thing that

that I'm concerned about is the fact that there are some of these vacant properties that are supposedly bank owned and whether or not they're maintaining these properties up to the condition they should be because you know the the value of the homes and the areas of some of these homes that are supposed to be already maintained is not being maintained to the level of the rest of the community around it and you know with I've seen a number of things happen of course as as the sheriff spoke about with legal matters because we had a home close by in our neighborhood which was rental property but the electric was turned off to that property and two homes were being run by car batteries which exploded and took out the two homes so you know I believe that this is a good ordinance and it should be put in place and also should have perfect enforcement thank you thank you mr. cruise I will call one last time anybody else like to speak to this item seeing none Christy I did have I did have an opportunity to speak to mr. riddle the first commenter who had the question about the snowbirds and he and I discussed the difference between vacant and unoccupied and if you look at the insurance industry and your policy there's a difference between a vacant house and an unoccupied house and I explained to him that that's how the ordinance would be implemented if a house is unoccupied by a Snowbird it doesn't necessarily make it vacant under this ordinance so that's just an implementation issue that I'll be working through with the Sheriff's Office as those questions come up mr. Vidal had explained to me that he lives in a condo and we had figured out that based on the size of his condominium that would not trigger the registration requirements for him and he had also expressed concerns me about seniors who maybe can't afford a licensed property manager and I explained that since he wouldn't be subject to registration of the ordinance that wouldn't be a concern for snowbirds who are leaving their properties unoccupied but are still not vacant under the ordinance speaking of property managers in the course of this process I have come to understand in a separate ordinance duplicating the state law requiring licensing for property managers will be something that will be very helpful and that's something now I'm going to bring back to you separately and I just so you you know I've also had a conversation with our foreclosure registry vendor and explained that this is a separate set of regulations the their contract and what they're doing is still in place and it's not triggered by vacancy or rental that's triggered by the filing of a listen ins or a foreclosure complaint and the attorney for our vendor and I are on the same page regarding the fact that that that doesn't have anything to do with this good Thank You Christie and I appreciate I mean personally myself I had a condo one time I was outside the County I had a property manager that took care of that it was to me it was

very affordable but it was also that peace of mind that I knew listen my tax local taxes were being paid I got a 1099 and they were snowbirds that typically quote snowbirds that usually came anywhere from December 2 to March I think it was definitely a benefit to have that well worth the cost and I would think it would be especially for people that are not in the area it's definitely worth the worth the investment well I know I speak on behalf of the Sheriff's Office chase and I have discussed this that people who are not going to occupy their residents for a significant amount of time it would be to their benefit to sign a trespass agreement so the sheriff's office knows if anybody is supposed to be in there who that person is etc so I mean it's optional but it we consider it to be a benefit to the property owner that the sheriff's office is providing for free I would agree I think I saw Commissioner Mary Ellen saying that yes yeah I like to say you know this Chris you've done a great job in this ordinance I know we first started this Commissioner Stark I think he first brought it up with Newports you doing and now we should look at it and I know there was some hiccups that were looking at but I know from meeting with the sheriff and his team to say you know what this is why this benefits us from that I think we're all been on board commissioner wells yeah cooperation with the Realtors Association which you know and all those in the industry I think getting them to the table from having a big problem with it I think this audience has evolved in a very positive way every step of the way it's going to benefit not only the citizens of the county and all those that live in neighborhoods but the first responders as well so I think a job well done yeah great I'd I agree that ain't one of the things and I appreciate you working obviously with the realtor organizations everybody that has Christie you know I know Commissioner Wells you have recently - I think this ordinance in addition to everything we've talked about I think well we also found out what it's going to do is keep out the unlicensed property managers - I don't think that's something we really thought that much about previous to have these discussions and you know come to find out there are quite a few properties that are being managed possibly by unlicensed which means people without a real estate license these properties so I think it's also going to help push so what does unlicensed folks folks out and then we're big on the unlicensed contractor program and the last thing we want to do is have people practicing business that don't have the proper license I think this was definitely a benefit to that to Commissioner Starkey I want to say you know that I didn't come from me it came from my constituents who I you know meet with and at my HOA meetings and my Harbor South Leadership Council meetings there's a you know specially large

problem in southwestern Pasco County with these kind of issues so it was those constituents who brought this request for does everything else to follow up with the commercials now Commissioner Stark is right I mean I in the last two weeks I've gotten 15 or 20 emails from constituents saying thank you for getting here obviously I think we can look at you know it's a it's a it's a touchy thing we don't want to over regulate you know but but I tell you it's Christie the sheriff's office his team and again the stakeholders from residents to all the realtor's getting here today doing it it's the right thing it's good it's going to increase values it's going to help life safety it's gonna help the entire team from code to the sheriff to be on the same page from minimum housing with Christie and what you all do so it's it's a very positive and and I appreciate Commissioner Starr can appreciate the board being on board to get this through and and thank you again Jeff for your team helping us get it through so quickly I'm so thankful with again with this is a roll call vote but I need a motion in a second so moved second roll call please district one Commissioner Oakley I District three Commissioner Starkey I District four Commissioner Wells District five Commissioner Mariano the district two chairman more hi motion passes 5-0 thank you [Music] okay okay next we're gonna go ahead and move with the procedures for rezoning is mr. County Attorney if you could review the procedures for rezoning I'll be happy to mr. chairman there are two rezoning agendas regular in consent staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if the staff Weir Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there's opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be told from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code thank you and if you're here to speak to any

of the items on the public hearing agenda I need you to please stand and be sworn in by the clerk if you're going to speak to any of these items and you just stand up be sworn in I see a couple hesitating I will allow you a moment to think about it again less going once you don't stand up you're not you know get to speak yes see how that works okay all right madam clerk do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God excellent thank you miss Hernandez I have eleven public hearing items on the consent agenda today this item will be approved by one vote without a presentation unless there is someone here in objection as p-52 P 15 on the consent agenda Madame clerk do we have proof and you can reproof for all please okay I'm going to include proof for P 3 and P 4 even though they are continued and withdrawn item P 3 Tampa Bay Times November 29 2009 teen item P for Tampa Bay Times August 16 2019 in August 23rd 2019 item P 5 Tampa Bay Times December 27th 2019 item P 6 Tampa Bay Times December 27th 2019 item P 7 Tampa Bay Times December 27th 2019 item P 8 Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2019 item P 9 Tampa Bay Times December 20th 2019 item P 10 Tampa Bay Times December 5th 2019 item P 11 team of eight times January 8 2020 item P 12 Tampa Bay Times December 12 2019 item P 13 in Tampa Bay Times December 12 2009 item P 14 Tampa Bay Times December 12 2000 19 item P 15 Tampa Bay Times December 30th 2019 this Hernandez it is your show commissioners Denise Hernandez plenty in development we're gonna do item P 3 and then we're going to do item P 16 right after P 3 item P 3 s P D D 20 Cu 11 in the name of Hodgkin and Mirsad Kosovich and it's for multiple families dwellings in a c2 district this item is being continued to a date uncertain move to continue time uncertainty second okay got a motion a second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion passes thank you item P 16 as PD 27 436 it's been the name of Evans coming to an MP you D master plan unit development district 7 properties inc rezoning from AC agricultural to an MP you D master plan unit development district this is a request for continuance to the to for 2020 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City this was advertised as a regular so you may want to call for public comment yeah I'm from p16 I will fall for call for public comment just be aware if you speak today on this item you will not be speaking at the next hearing on this item anybody to speak seeing none I'll entertain a motion to continue the side them move to continue motion continue second all in favor aye passes thank you item P force FAC 2000 1 8 it's in the name of Long Lake Reserve Community Development District and MI homes of Tampa Leonard Road for a fit petition to vacate this item is being withdrawn I have okay discussions why are we not gonna put a sidewalk in trail there or what's going on I sent an email to the

administrator but I didn't hear back I concerned if we're taking away a trail that was planned for the community so I just there's no back story here with me and it's my district so two hours ago I have not had a chance to get nails this would be this would be Real Estate's processing of a vacation so are we denying it or no it's not drawn there they're no longer asking for well I'd like to meet I'd like to meet with staff to understand what's going on in that community meet with Commissioner stork you should appreciate it thank you he forced withdraw on P 5 P 5 P DD 27 4 5 7 in the name of Teresa and Christensen for a change in zoning from an AR agricultural residential district to an art to low density residential district comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission does anybody opposed this item seen I believe on consent item p6 is conditional use pd d 20 cu 14 in the name of Grand Oaks Square LLC a rep amia kal cafe for the sale of alcoholic beverages beer wine beer and wine only on-premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a restaurant and C to come to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions from PDD and the plant and the Planning Commission anybody here to speak in opposition to this item seeing none what consent we're gonna move on now to item P 11 because it has to be heard before item P 7 yes item P 11 SPD d 2301 in the name of mich room gold properties the Grove of Westar Chapel it's a waiver of a specific distance limitation of a thousand feet from a church in church school for conditional use of consideration comes to with a recommendation of approval anybody heard speaking to opposition to P 11 C then leave on consent and we'll go back to P 7 P 7 P D 220 see you 15 miss room gold properties LP of a Grove at Wesley Chapel for the sale of beer wine and liquor package sales and on-premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of the shopping center and a master plan units development district comes through with recommendation of approval with conditions for P D D and the Planning Commission ready here to speak in opposition to this item C and then leave on consent item p 8 is pd d 2002 3-1 this is CP al 1914 Pittman Massey Jordan transmittal of proposed large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2013 rural area removing the Pittman Massey Jordan parcels from the rural area today we're asking you to authorize transmittal of the comp plan amendment to the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity and other reviewing agencies anybody here to speak in opposition to this item seeing them leave on consent t9 SPD d 2002 3 4 this is an ordinance amending the Pasco County land development code section 604 Northeast Pasco rural protection overlay district figure 604 1 northeast Pasco rule overlay protection district boundary 604 - to Northeast Pasco rules scenic roadways figure 604

for limits to topographic alterations and other sections as necessary for internal consistency today we ask that you accept public comment and there's no action by the board this is set for adoption on March 3rd 2020 at 1:30 in Dade City about one second so Denise that the heading of this is transmittal the heading is incorrect this LDC amendment does not get transmitted to the Dean right okay this is first reading on the change the land development code it does have a companion item which is p8 but it's that's the change to the complan so this should have been an ordinance title in the beginning of the this agenda that's correct I've got some concerns about whether it's been advertised correctly you may have to start over on this one but we can figure that out since it doesn't require action take public comment and we'll figure it out on that item well if is there anybody here to object to this item item I said okay we're on consent it may have to we may have to go through the process again it may not come back to you at the next hearing but okay for all intents and purposes if you don't have public opposition against and nobody's here to speak to this item all right anyone can send them P 1080 xx 0 - 7 - this is Cpl 2001 JDR investments is its large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2 - 15 and sheet 16 changing from RoR retail office residential to il light industrial this comes to you with recommendation of actually this is also an transmittal this is a transmittal to the Department of Economic Opportunity and other reviewing agencies that's a recommendation but here to speak in opposition this is P 10 see you then leave on consent going on that's P 12 sorry mr. chairman okay you guys will figure it out good afternoon means a call that public works this is P 12 ship watch dr p best number three three six seven so sir on P 12 I have somebody that signed up for tooth p12 where's that person at the sign up for P 12 okay so we're gonna have to pull that off consent in support of it hold on everybody timeout flirt alright if she wants to speak to this item I have to pull it okay okay she does not want to speak to this item you know she's signed up to speak okay I'm sure Starkey if you have questions on this item I got up I did please call we'll come back to that 13 P 13 Orchid Lake Village unit number six P bass number three three seven eight anybody like to speak in opposition to this item as P 13 see you now leave on consent P 14 before is sorry babe with forest P vast number three three eight zero P 14 I have someone's signed up for P 14 if you want to speak to in opposition to this item up you do want to speak in opposition pull P 14 we'll come back to that now we're going back to P 15 P 15 is on consent we'd like okay p15 is holiday week's holiday Lakes west street light service area the

adoption of every English okay so p15 is anybody here to speak in opposition to P 15 anybody's here to speak to opposition P 15 seeing that leave on consent I will take a motion to prove all consent items except for P 12 and PE 14 I have a motion and second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion passes P 12 back up all right so go ahead and give your report and then I had somebody that's wants to speak to this item there's questions from the board we'll go from there so let me start assigning stuff okay this is P 12 and it's ship watch to drive us project all right got it the project is one Street is counter maintained is paved the estimated cost is ninety thousand seven hundred and thirty dollars the maximum cost for eru is 4600 $5.99 the discounted amount is eighteen thousand eighteen thousand nine hundred and thirty-four dollars and 49 cents they are cost for ER you after the discount is three thousand seven hundred and four dollars of twenty three possible votes there were 18 responses there were 14 in favor of the project and four were against the project this project would be over a ten-year period interest rate that's five percent and this is where ship drop arms ship watch drives located ourself strauber Memorial Highway and I have a couple photograph of the road condition Thank You Angley so I do have people signed up for this item one person madam clerk we do that commissioners discussion first or public comment first can I do public comment on this one okay thank you Renee is it Grice mer p12 yes ma'am even address to the record please three one three seven ship watch drive I don't have any objection I just have a we attended the January 9th workshop and we discovered that our property is may charge for two er use we have been in touch with mr. Caldwell during this process and had spoken to Commissioner Starkey we're just asking to be considered for relief of payment of to you er use versus one we did provide the deed restrictions for our sin Bay home division saying that only one dwelling per lot is allowed for our our property therefore I just wanted to make it as a record and bring it up again that we please just be considered for the assessment of one er you versus the - thank you man don't leave the mic okay thank you for your comments well let me just ask there's anybody else here to speak to the side on P 12 P 12 seeing none mr. ki um could you put them map up please and if you heard the word strauber that's because this is the neighborhood that borders where the clearing happened and now people are walking in the street right so this P vas illustrates a problem that I think we have with our P vast program so see the ones in blue for example they can only access their neighborhood up ship wats Drive but they are being assessed at 50 percent see the property and and and and there is a fence behind them and in the deed restrictions it says they can't take down the fence that can be their only access so in my opinion that that's a problem with our

process the other problem I have in our process is what Rene has brought up on Rene and I have known each other for years is that her home can only have one ERU but we assess them as two so that means the county is going to eat the other ERU and I've watched this happen in Aris Tita when for some reason when you look it up some of the Lots have for ER use but our deed restrictions say you only can have one house per lot so we need to be looking at deed restrictions before we divide up the ER use and then the very strange thing you and this is where I want our turn to chime in here and I probably too late for this one but see that green piece yes they access their property through the is agree smart guys I remember Chris Berg greens most property with the easement so they also only can use ship watch drive to access their property but they are only paying 25% so so I'll understand that but I think it's some technicality that we have in our policy I don't do you want to answer that the green ones in the back is the one that touches the green okay then then you have the lot to the right which was combined rights I don't know how many acres there are and and but they don't have a house on their right they knock the house down but they can have X amount of a are used but I don't think they added the other piece of land to that one that's the Mickler property my clear property so I'm not sure if that was added in to this when their gate is from that traffic circle but especially I'm concerned about the to have the three houses on sand Bay and the green property I think we're good with you thank you so much we appreciate it written with regards to Leon properties at the corner of farm strauber Memorial and cheap watch we found nothing in the deed restriction preventing them from having a secondary axis however resident brought to our attention that the HOA restricted to only one house and this is why the difference is there we did look at the deed restrictions but not HOA rules this HOA rule with regards to the green property is concerned non-contiguous it does not touch they exist an improvement unlike the other properties they're on ship watch their assess that 25 percent but wouldn't you say the easement touches the property ship watch yes but but ordinance says based on its location and the distance it is non-contiguous there's no Diaries to be adjusted what do y'all think cuz they're wondering why does the doctor get to drive on their Road and not pay for it and he drives the most on the road guess the question is that there's only is that the person's only access yes sir so what's the answer the question it but as for the ordinance the lot is concert non-contiguous it's not touching a button the improvements but since they have to use it is that 25 percent we've had situations before that and I remember this we've had battles kind of two commissioners car keys stainless you made where people have land they're paying full for all the ER use and they don't even have

access to the road cuz they have a fence behind it so we dig them for the entire P pass now this one this person uses it like Commissioner Stark you stated as their only I guess we could say ingress egress to their home and they get a discount wherever else is paying yeah it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to be able to agree actually I'm not saying this against you I understand you're following the rules I just say and I think we need to tweak these rules ASAP because this is not right so much for Mary Ellen yeah I'd agree it's definitely loophole in the situation if it can be tightened up I mean I don't think it happens that often first I've seen it happen like this but it's something we do want to try to plug I mean some somehow should be tied to the if it's the only access in maybe we need to treat the ordinance for that so I would say excuse me an easement is a driveway isn't an easement a driveway well you could say easement or driveway so these are made the people these these are set up for the way for the people that are traversing the road on a daily basis and using this stuff we should be getting into our neighborhoods right where that ie their only ingress egress other property so you have one or two choices you can do right now you can pass it as is you can continue it and redo the PBS that's your actually you can pass it or you can start over again because renewing letters would have to be said you have to redo the whole penis yeah right you couldn't be able to continue this because you've got to start from ICU it has a start okay okay German I'm seeing that my residents don't want to start over but they do did bring to my attention the seeming inequity and I agree with them I think they want their robe fixed so I would move to approve the P vas but asked that we fix this so these inequities don't continue second a motion in a second all in favor aye all opposed that motion passes thank you so I just on that I hate to keep bringing this issue up so and this is good for the future since was brought up in reference to so the deed says one thing there's two youth but there's a there's a deeper striction within the HOA so if you're not allowed to build more than one home per lot how do we in the future in case this were to happen again how could we research that and do our due diligence before we go through the process Sarki at the meeting we have to start looking at the HOA restrictions yeah so currently we look at the D restrictions on you know the deed so we now have to go and pull the HOA restrictions go through that and see if there are any restrictions the number of dwellings per per puzzle okay so for example and this in this situation as commissioner stark you mentioned since this person is not able to build so we'll just have to eat the second half of fortune that P vast then there's a county so it wasn't calculated correctly and we're gonna have to come out of the general fund to pay that difference okay yes and I've seen it happen to a much greater number and I think part of the issue is would

do the calculations before we know all the details and then we get stuck a little bit so Commissioner mariano in this chairman and i'd say there was a situation like this that happened to me on the double lot thing because my first house about lakeside woolens the people had bought it from built the house right in the middle of the lot so unless it was gonna be torn down ripped apart I was never gonna get changed anyway should have been one ER you that's true we did change it but I think maybe if you can in the ordinance give yourself some flexibility to look at situations like that you can make the call on the spot to say you know what in all likelihood it's not gonna get redone especially with a road paving project again so give you the flexibility to make that change and make them make the adjustment easily you know your phone we know that we're not getting on you about this we know your phone the process we're just giving suggestions on how to turn i'm tweak it to the betterment of for our citizens and our residents in the future so thank you sir so we did have to pull come get a lot 14 - so go ahead and mister this is speed up the 2000 to 8:00 they would forest P vast number three three eight zero there are two streets in this project count maintained and pave the total estimate the project cost is two hundred and twenty five thousand eight hundred twenty-five dollars maximum calls for EIU is six thousand two hundred and one dollars and eighty two cents the discounted amount is fifty three thousand four hundred and fifty six dollars and forty-five cents the maximum calls per er you after the discount is four thousand nine hundred and one thousand thirty-six cents thank you sir so I didn't have somebody that raised their hand and signed up for this item so if that person could come to the podium at this time and state your name and address for the record one one three four five Blackwood Drive I just had a couple of questions about how this was handled previous years that this was brought up we were told that if you did not want it to happen a no vote you didn't return the what is it called a PBS you didn't return the paper this year was different we had to return the paper for a no vote I'm wondering if people who many of us have lived there for a long time didn't have been against this didn't realize the change that had taken effect or didn't read it that way I was also wondering of the yes and no votes I know of two places there that are empty and I understand there was no contact made I'm wondering which side of the aisle they were voted on and how many petitions were sent out versus the number of returns thank you so I'll let you have a seat Ainsley will anybody else wants to speak to it before we move on I didn't see any other hands raised no I'll let Ainsley answer that and then any the board we send certified letters so the addresses on the property pages list in other words where taxes are sent there is a statement in the letter that

I sent out that makes it clear that if you do not return your vote it is not a no vote it's the decision to move forward and bring it here to the board it's based on the number of responses we get back so in this case we send out for the two there are 42 possible votes only 26 came back that 60 percent responded to the petition of those 14 percent or sorry 14 or 56 percent were in favor of the project and 44 were against for four percent were against the project this is the results this is the past the policy procedure that we follow thank you so commissioner oakley yes this process he's talking about about the votes that return that's been in enforce a long time at and quite a while in the letter yeah everybody if they want to vote they have to send the paperwork back India they don't it's calculated on what what's returned yes sir 42 possible votes right safe trip stammers but on 25 25 responded I was just gonna say it's I mean it's all it's always been that you had to turn in your vote to make it count one way or the other hasn't been any different than anything I've been across so I don't know where that information came from but it's in our policies and has been I've never seen a different okay any other questions from the board motion in a second all in favor thank you okay 17 we have proof yes we did P 17 was published on November 29th 2019 good afternoon Denise Hernandez Planning and Development item P 17 is PDD 20 Cu 13 it's in the name of golf landings Association Inc and its conditional use for additional parking for a civic club in a far for high-density residential district parcels located in southwest Pasco County on the northwest corner of barefoot court and Segal Drive and the parcel consists of a consists of a vacant platted lot 10 of the Gulf harbour sea forest unit 2 a subdivision just showing you 500 article 500 zoning how this is actually considered a conditional use under five 17.3 parking areas to serve the neighborhood such as but not limited to additional parking for civic clubs parking for parks playgrounds a recreation area this is just showing you the surrounding land use so you've got res six in the area to the south as res 24 is that is a an apartment area to the east of the property as will show in the aerial is the actual golf Landy's golf landings recreation center as you can see on the aerial the subject parcel it has a red star on it across the street is the golf landings recreation area which consists of the clubhouse which is in this section here which has capacity for approximately 120 guests and this parking area has capacity for approximately 25 parking spaces hence we're here because there are situations where there is nessus to park to attend events that may occur at the golf landings clubhouse additionally there's a boat ramp out here tennis courts and so on and so forth this is a street view of the subject

location there was a Notice of Violation from code enforcement but the applicants are here to bring this item into conformance a couple of other Street View is showing the subject parcel and showing the proximity to the parking for the clubhouse and recreation areas this is their concept plan again one of the conditions does require that they go through a full site plan review it's just conceptual in nature comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions the Planning Commission also did hear some concerns from a resident as a result of those concerns the Planning Commission added an additional condition which is condition number three which is that the owner applicant shall install signage stating no overnight parking is that overnight parking is prohibited I'm here for any questions that you may have on this item thank you questions from the board I do I have people signed up I say mr. chairman I've been to several meetings out there the group is very active for only 25 parking spots for as large as some of these turnouts are made from different dredging meetings and other things out there it's a good use it's properties right next door to where it's at so it's at the end of a street so it really is not much impact so I think he's gonna the landing is doing a good job bringing it forward and Thank You Denise great thank you I do have one person signed up for this item that the clerk al and last name you can say if anybody else wants to speak this item you can pull line up at this time I think it's a show nerd a name and address for this gentleman before I start my time I have a motion for filing and receiving okay what is this he's got some photographs that I'd like to share with you move to receive and file to the clerk please thank you can you please state your name and address for the record my name is al sha nerd I live in Gulf harbors 43:44 sand dollar court and you were sworn yes sir AB okay I'll start no I'm just no I was just saying they could polish your time so you didn't write a check I think we're getting that right in 2018 this r4 lot was bought by our HOA reason given was overflow parking for cars on special events this very physical visible corner are for lot has a hundred homeowners including myself that drive by this only entry and exit point every day this lot was later used as a trailer park for boats trailers and RV's complaints were filed lot was shut down by the county due to no permit including removal or travel or gravel when you drove by a very trash in degrading I have seen boat owners drain their build you leaving dirty salt water and oil and gravel unfortunately none of the homeowner association board members who live in this area to see how degrading it was for County requirements for a special permit the HOA has written down exactly what they propose to do with this lot parish to paragraph to provide additional parking for a passenger vehicles when parking spaces in the

full-time parking lot are being used for trailer parking by boaters the HOA HOA request comes with no objection if in fact it is to be used as the HOA has specifically specified conditional rare use for special events occasional parking for passenger vehicles without enforceable rules this our phone lot will become a repeat of last year allowing daily use for trailers boats RVs etc without a sign saying overflow parking for cars only with 100% certainty this very visible lot will transition into an ugly trailer a lot as it did in the past Thank You chairman crane for mentioning a sign last meeting page one word is underlined it is not uncommon to find trailers illegally parked on the grass if the HOA cannot enforce its own rules I asked how a 10:00 p.m. curfew and passenger vehicle only be enforceable please look at the photos as of said line after a rain shower and carved movement it will be it will turn into an unsightly muddy surface adjacent homes will have to endure headlights at night one photo shows trailers are not before it was shut down another denotes purse line it was intended for vessels the other photos show current use of the club parking area for trailers and RV's sometimes parked for days overlapping special club events is acceptable since the clubhouse is the clubhouse parking lot I reluctantly support the HOA request as long as we have assurance from Pasco County anything other than passenger vehicles as the HOA specified will not be permitted if it is violated it will violate the conditional use be terminated keep in mind the last meaning HOA lawyer has suggested boaters can use this law for an example during wedding chairman gray said you can stop this by a sign lawyer statement gives credence where this law may be headed I asked this board please protect our entry and property value thank you thank you sir thank you okay next please Damon address for the record have you been sworn yeah thank you sir my name is Phil Aston I live at 59 20 Seaside Drive in New Port Richey I traversed that area daily and half for 30 years by that lot pretty much an agreement with my neighbor one of the issues that I have is and that has not been addressed that I'm aware of is that the neighbor the houses that are adjacent to that lot I believe that this change in this the use of this property could amount to a taking from this from those owners I'm not aware of the owners having been in agreement with this how it affects their property values relative to using it as a storage lot as opposed to the original use which was for a residential home to be built there I don't want my my homeowners association nor the county to some sometime be liable for a taking from those owners so I think it's a legal question that should be addressed as well as some of the access questions that were raised relative to the property with regards to the access to the property it seems to me that if this is a rare usage of the property aside from having a sign there

the property could be chained off if it is in fact going to go ahead and be used as an overflow parking the events don't happen that often but if it is accessible 24 hours a day 7 days a week people are going to use it put vehicles in there if it was not accessible except for those times on when they need that overflow it seems that that would address some of the unsightliness problems that have been addressed excuse me but I do have a concern because I'm not aware of anybody in the previous issues with regards to this property having addressed those homeowners there that but reticence those property again I don't want our homeowners association or the county because of the decision that's made having to foot the bill to those individuals if they were to win some type of a lawsuit right thank you thank you so much so anybody else was to speak to this item name and address for the record have you been sworn yes okay Jim D Furio I'm the attorney for the petitioner of the Association my address is two zero one East Kennedy Boulevard in Tampa I'd like to make a few points number one the petitioners a homeowners association the lot is vacant the photograph that was given showed that the that gravel had been placed on the lot that has been removed it is now grass and it's in its natural condition as and as being mowed it's an HOA it can't build anything as far as a structure is concerned on this lot it's not within its corporate capacity so it has limited use to begin with if it's not used for this purpose overflow parking occasionally it really has no purpose whatsoever many of the objections I heard really had to do with appearance what it will look like as people are driving by when a when a vehicle occasionally may be parked in this area that's frankly an issue for preliminary site review that's going to be some of the things that the Association is going to present to the county with regard to various site barriers such as foliage and and and that kind of thing same with regard to same with regard to access the and I think it's I think it's significant to the Association has notified frankly everybody in this area of this particular application I think it's significant really that the initial complainant here that has made a statement as I understand it lives approximately a thousand feet from this property goes through two controlled intersections in order to pass it and an over canal so it is not the adjoining property is there anyone frankly in close proximity that has a problem with this it's somebody that lives in a in a distant locale I will also say this as far as the concerns with I got one more minute two more points then as far as the use of this lat for overflow parking by other than passenger vehicles it's going to be a rare why because the boat docks are closest to the to the paved parking areas that's where boaters are going to put their trailers again this

is only over full parking it's not going to contain many vehicles on a regular basis at all and I think that was kind of the end of my comments thank you very much thank you and we all supposed to speak to this item you can't speak again sorry it's it's the rules sorry go ahead address to the record please and have you been sworn yes thank you my name is nicolas maduro I live at 5:41 v Jill Beth Drive New Port Richey Florida I'm the president of our homeowners association if you would please just listen to this when Gulf landings was constructed it initially was only 256 homes thus 26 parking spaces our HOA now is 578 units over a hundred and ten of those units are not direct waterfront access property but we live in a marina community the distance between the questionable overflow parking lot and the parking lot to the right can I walk over to that screen you can't talk from there because the mic will pick you up okay well if you could point to the that right there that there's the parking lot with the white striping you can see the distance between the two Lots is the width of the road of 20 feet there's people our age away does allow the daytime you boaters to park their trailers to use the rim there's no other place where the where they could park their trailers and the planning Commissioner brought this up the planning Commissioner said that you know those people who live in that they have rights as well and that's why it passed without any objection please keep in mind what the planning commissioners approved and why they approved it without objection thank you well will the HOA example and I didn't read all the conditions and maybe this is in there I've been looking at your neighborhood is that does the HOA have plans to landscape between the private property owner in the public garage yes more than the ligustrum hedge yes we do what what is what are the requirements of that screening 15 foot buffer and it would be a type B and I will look at the code and tell you what type B means so there will be some trees and some yeah more screening than just ligustrum cuz I'll look in here I just see Lagasse project the rendering shows that yeah not on this one not the one that's showing there that's just showing a hedge that's not a 15-foot buffer with trees I mean I wouldn't III I get that you want to use this but I was if I was the next-door neighbor I wouldn't I would prefer to have a buffer then be looking at a parking lot next to my house so do you see where it says a lot 9 on there yeah it says viburnum hedge okay we can plant trees there well I sure our code requires it so it expires it this is just conceptual what they submitted with their application the code does require and and that was stated to them at their a pre-application meeting that occurred on December 17th of 2018 there's note stating that they have to meet Type B buffers so just make sure you understand that you're gonna have to plant a 15-foot landscaped

more than a hedge buffer there yes ma'am okay okay and that would be for the people that are the audience and had concerns that'll be part of the site plan you can always object to the site plan if if it's not following code okay well I have one question for you too one of the things mission by some of the residents that are here today was in reference to will there be any type of like signage or anything that says like no over night parking or no boat parking of the Planning Commission had a few stipulations on that one no overnight parking and stations don't know overnight parking we would also put the hours on there no parking like from 10 o'clock at night to 6:00 in the morning only parking for special events parking for special event so there'll be some type of signage there partly there'll be some type of signage there yes that will be part of the site plan right the process I'm sorry one second that'll be that's for staff thank you so the Planning Commission added a requirement which is your condition number three that states that overnight parking is prohibited so they have to install a sign that specifically states that okay that that's the-- so some of the other question and concern amongst some of the residents was RV parking and which could be overnight a day and boat trailer parking so that may be handled by condition four but that's up to the board storage of vehicles including passenger vehicles recreational vehicles and commercial commercial vehicles shall be prohibited this conditional you shall not authorize the use of the subject site for a boat commercial or recreational vehicle storage Lots okay and that's not what you want it for were so that's not what you want a lot for so they don't know you have no objection to that okay okay I think that's what we're looking for okay so if we're gonna chairman I'm gonna go for a second so if we move forward with that motion that'll need to be part of that motion that that be added go ahead what be added what I just said it's already there no that wasn't all soon and that was that was the point I was trying to make what Denis read you is already in your conditions of approval that's the storage of vehicle that's different than parking though that's different than parking if you wish to add that those types of things can't be parked on that lot that's going to expand that can that was that was one of their concerns that they mentioned the parking of boat trailers RVs and things like that during the daytime which you have no objection to because that's not what it's for so we need to add again you need to add that to the motion we all good all right perfect I think any other questions for the applicant mr. chairman yes sir just one question and you have the abutting land Oh a property owner he's okay with this there's not a he the abutting property was not objecting telling them we get no return correspondence whatsoever our property manager who's here handled that for us okay okay thank you so if there's no more discussion if somebody were to

make that motion we want to add in no-parking of recreational vehicles or boat trailers at any time mr. chairman yes sir so I'll make a motion approving staff's recommendation with the addition of the signs saying no boat parking RV parking no commercial parking second have a second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion I thank you all righty moving on P 18 RC how are you name it title for the record publication thank you hold on P 18 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on December 20th 2019 alright thank you good afternoon for the record Marci s burg this keeps going to get it down to my height business like this okay Marcia spec director community development your Community Development Department is working to improve the lives of Pasco citizens through homeless initiatives neighborhood revitalization affordable housing and community partnerships using state and federal funding and we're here today to discuss an amendment to our consolidated plan so as an entitlement community we are governed by a five-year plan which discusses the demographics loose local housing market and economy Housing and Community Development needs and priorities and our current plan is from 2018 to 2023 and this board has approved it in August of 2018 along with a five-year plan we also prepare an annual action plan and that details the budget for spending the Community Development Block Grant known as CDBG the home investment partnership home and emergency solutions grant and that one-year plan outlines the projects and activities that you approve of and you approve the most recent one in August of 2019 sometimes as we go along the year changes come up we might have to add an activity or cancel an activity add new funding change the scope of a project that you've already approved and when that happens it requires that we have to do a substantial amendment HUD requires it and our citizen participation plan also requires it we have to have a public hearing to be held either prior to or in conjunction with your approving the substantial amendment and today we're requesting the first substantial amendment for the 2019 action plan this amendment is to transfer program income and also add a new project or activity so the subject of our public hearing today and for your approval is to ask that you approve the transfer of program income from the Neighborhood Stabilization program to CDBG as part of our closeout process of the NSP one grant the NSP grant which was approved gosh I don't have I don't remember that one because I wasn't here then but that was part of the programs that were rolled out to assist with the foreclosure process and all the foreclosures that were happening in various communities we continually get program income for the projects that we did there and in order to close out the grant we have to spend the original allocation and you can't spend the original allocation when the program income keeps coming in because that's what you have to spend first so we've asked HUD if we could transfer the

program income to CDBG and use it for CDBG eligible activities it's currently standing at almost 1.3 million dollars HUD has approved that and now we're asking for the board to approve it so we could make that administrative change the other action that we're asking for as part of the substantial amendment is to approve the addition of the Coit road repaving project that's to use section 108 loan guarantee funds this is just to approve adding the project into our action plan and at a later date you would get the project design contracts on specifics that would come before the board thank you any questions any questions from the board yes sir Commissioner Mariana I'm okay with what you're trying to do to take you back before years ago when I first was elected we put a ton of money into our CDBG program for Tommy town and since that point we delayed a lot of projects on this side I showed a film earlier about leisure lane we have all the property that this board I think did a great job in funding habitat humanity to buy those 51 Lots and we need about 1.5 million for infrastructure and provide substitute to a subject to super conversion can you in the future say that you'll be able to look at possibly setting that up to be a project you bring back to us yes as a matter of fact I have already spoken to Habitat for Humanity and also in conversations with the city of New Port Richey about our next funding cycle which will open up in March and the idea of bringing a infrastructure project back for the committee to review in them for the board to review okay thank you this is a public hearing is anybody I'll make a motion to approve this but I want to ask her a question after you okay move to approve a motion I have a second I got a second down there already all in favor aye motion passes aye I received the notification of the change in the HUD rules and Zoning have you looked at that yet I have not I think I forward it to you afforded to you and Kathy and a few others yeah I don't know what that means yet I'm sure we'll do be discussing it and at naica and Maiko this summer in Orlando but I want to understand they just took away some zoning something with zoning and low-income houses own come housing there the previous presidents rules that they put in place with respect to HUD dollars and a string if you will that came with those yeah yes we just we just got that too so I'm not sure we fully understand yet what that changed me yeah so I hope so hopefully something would not have talked to me about it okay thank you thank you okay so p19 I do not see anybody in the audience except for staff and a reporter and so just read the description the title description and if there's no questions to the board I'll call the public comment real quick just in case I'm Nelson to see the pub yep Thank You P 19 was published on December 30th 2019 great this is a resolution authorizing Street alight service areas within the

areas commonly referred to as summer Lakes authorizing the assessment rate change and establishing levy of assessments against the benefiting property owners in accordance with ordinance I do have one thing before we call for public comment we did I wish to notify the board that we did receive one objection this is why this item was moved to the end to regular but oppose the increase in this area from citizen buy them in bags and or Dunsmore we have addressed mr. Dunsmore as concerns and we did respond in writing we also received a phone call back from the citizen on the 15th of this month and he shared that he was satisfied with our response and shared no with additional concerns in to record the letter and our response to the clerk okay thanks for getting back to the citizen and any question from the board I make a most approve this I can ask for couple comments though okay well there any questions from the board seeing none anybody would like to speak to this item seeing none back to the board move for approval motion have a second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion passed I'll thank you correct you can submit that to the clerk if you like to that's so I I have been asking for someone to take a look at trouble Creek for a couple years now for a couple lights there are some businesses that have their own lights that shed a light on the sidewalk there but there are some really dark scary places I Drive that road almost every night and I just really feel we need a few lights on trouble Creek and no one's ever done anything and maybe I wasn't sure who it was to speak to or maybe to you so that is a county road it's not a neighborhood so would we'd be picking up those lights but it is a pretty urbanized road and there are a lot of people walking on that Sidewalk at night and so I like to see it's just a couple strategic lights between Seven Springs and us 19 that that are needed out there but okay so we're back to Commission Thank You mr. chairman I told you I was gonna mention about in the Gulf and I think I had to meet I had a meeting with staff and I talked with the landowner we're gonna meet Friday morning at 10:00 I think we've got terms from the sound of a pretty well resolved so I think we'll be able to resolve it then I need a letter mr. chairman yes or some type of if I make a motion to serve as the Gulf consortium secretary treasurer again I'm gonna go for that position and a few more okay but I need approval from the board to do that take a second our favor hydration passes thank you thank you and I would like to say the restore committee is gonna meet on February 6 or it's February 8th it's after the board meeting coming up at the 8th yeah sometime in February 8th I'm is another 68 yeah February 6th I guess we middle yeah we meet in the 4th so on on the 6th meeting one of the topic is going to be the dredging for Gulf Gulf harbors and also Hudson and we found out in a meeting last month that they left out

part of leisure beach channel down around the corner we're trying to get that headed in there's a shortage of about seventeen thousand dollars to do that we funded a hundred thousand of it so we haven't resolved that yet but it's going to be a topic of conversation that comes up I'm just wondering as we are going to meet do you want us to discuss at all the port richey dredging there's a way to bring it back to us with the as far as the board goes we're still not ready to come back it was still working with the city in case they asked about it okay sure I think little Hamed of that we're still working with a city let's find the right way to go because I think that's where we are okay and I like to say that you know Ridge Road I think was a phenomenal accomplishment for us all the great work we've done mr. biles you're keeping us rolling with that thing going through the process was phenomenal all the people that helped across the board I think our participation showing the initiative to keep on working and congressman Baracus the future of past was so much better and for those that may object to what I think everyone should remember there was going to be 200 acres of commercial development was going to be out there 6,500 homes and through that whole stretch of land as well as putting 17 bridges which will help any hurricane evacuation like tropical storm Debby that shut down State Route 54 people can have a way to get out and get safe and more importantly as Kevin Gunther used to say to be able to get back so I want to applaud the board for staying with it every step of the way it was a monumental day out there that was phenomenal I would just want to flow up one idea that the trip to tell ask you I thought was phenomenal having the governor get there and some of the bright lines I read in some of the little articles or tweets or else it's like how does Pasco County get the governor in the Senate President and Senate doesn't get obvious we know that one but to come to a meeting that they're having with their school board I think these next few years are going to be critical and we've got Ralph Flair up there is I think Rob's doing a great job we don't have a federal appointee as far as a lobbyist firm we don't have a state one as well if not for this year but even for next year coming just keep in the back your mind that maybe we want to take a look at putting another state one coming in because if we're going to have the ever opportunity to capitalize in the Senate President speak or the house now's the time to put resources into that to make sure that we're going to be on top of anything we asked for to help it push through the process that's all I have thank you well we start with there was a conversation we had earlier with respect to performance evaluation feedback and just kinda let you know I've kind of changed the process at my level in the organization where I sit down one monthly with my direct reports and we go through those kinds of things so we have monthly one-on-ones to make sure they understand where they are in

the process and what we need to work on so it's a little different than an annual but if all the data shows that if you have those more often it's better anyway so I just wanted to kind of let you know that the second one is we just finished up the top workplace survey and we have some of our initial results and again employee engagement employee connection leads to better customer service so there's not there's a direct link that way but you got to focus on the employee that leads to improving customer service and across the board we're at 14 percent year-over-year and for the first time the deeply disengaged employees is actually below 10 percent and the time we've been doing the survey so we're making a lot of it progress inside the organization and we're actually our ratio of engaged deeply disengaged in places trending we're double what the average US company is which is great but we're still well below where we want to be which is where a world-class organization is but we're turning away that that measure itself is up 38 percent 39 percent year-over-year so a lot of great things happen in the organization things like what we did earlier this morning impact that because you can never recognize people enough for the great work they do that's part of what we did this morning so I wanted to kind of relate those two things to you and then I have one final item I need you to delegate authority to me and I'm if you don't mind I'm going to read the statement that I have that's come through the Linnaean Julian and Moffat group through David Goldstein so that they're working through the final documents as they prepare to close on the property one thing that needs to be cleaned up and we don't have a board meeting really to get it done in the right timing so I'll read the statement and then would ask that you make a motion to accept emergency and then approve it so it's to delegate to me the County Administrator the authority to execute and deliver to Moffat and Arlen Angeline LLC any documents necessary to ensure that a Moffitt will have legal act legal and practical access through the eco corridor within project Arthur until such time as legal and practical access to the Marfa parcel within project Arthur is available through the extension of sunlight Boulevard and be the Eco corridor within project Arthur will not be used for certain life science uses or other similar uses that are proposed to be developed within the market part moffat parcel thank you a motion second we had to hear the emergency first motioning earth emergency all in favor say motion okay we have a copy of that I'll get you a copy on okay motion by Commissioner Marriott on you in a second second second all in favor thank you that's all I have all right Thank You sky Snyder I'm also gonna have to have you move the emergency second motion a second all in favor aye all opposed same sign motion at your last board meeting Bell Lake subdivision MGP PDD 20-7 4 for 8 was

heard there was an advertising error on both the letters sent and the posted notice the applicant was informed my understanding is they are riad vert izing and reno de singh for the February 4th 2020 meeting however under your procedural rules eight point six I would like to get a motion to reconsider the approval that was granted to that MPD entertain a motion moves reconsider second motion a second Oh favor same sign motion passes thank you that way we don't have an issue that the resolution went out signed and and they're coming back through the process but procedurally that will that will get us back to a clean slate earlier in the day Commissioner Stark he raised a question with regard to the methodology of the P vas I'm with mr. Mariano I don't ever remember seeing that as a as an issue however it would appear that if we change the methodology to say that flag lots which is what that would have been that had sole access through a street that was being served would have to pay full assessment that would get you where you need to be because it's because in fact that lot was a flag a lot with a driveway or an easement through another lot it's not part of their Association so I'm not sure you could call it a flag lot why wouldn't it be I don't know it was purchased outside of their Association boundary I think it's either landlocked or it's a flag lot its landlocked with their investment and here's the other crazy thing the grease mowers have been maintaining that easement thinking it's their responsibility to keep up their driveway and so couldn't we just say any property that has whose only access is through a paved road has to participate in the paving assessment and not call it say well I got a lot it is I'm not sure why we'll research it and find out historically why why that provision is in the methodology and we'll bring it back the other the other thing that I needed to raise was that the the P 9 on your agenda that I raised a concern about I've now seen the advertisement for it and it was properly advertised it was just improperly shown on your agenda given that there was no one here for the item and they would have had actual notice in the newspaper if they were you know if they were objecting to it I think you can move forward with your second public hearing on that LDC amendment right good thank you sir madam clerk I have to community vents I wanted to let everybody know about and one is our big shred event that's this Saturday and the following Saturday so this Saturday January 25th will be at the West Pasco Judicial Center and the one on February the first will be at the robert sevinor judicial center it runs from 10:00 until noon and it is meant to help our citizens get rid of properly and securely their sensitive paperwork that might have social security numbers our bank numbers on them our big shred event in it coincides with the celebrating data privacy day put it all together there is all right and then we have Valentine's Day wedding ceremony that's our mast wedding ceremony in

front of historic courthouse that is on Valentine's Day it's easy day to remember people that want to participate and they want to get married in the grip ceremony they can do so by applying for the marriage license in our office and registering for the event we have fun stuff like music and cake and decorations and we even provide a floor charge a carriage ride around downtown is it where my Commissioner Moore nice must have seen I think I'll be out there I'll be absent that day going to the chapel registration has to be done by February 7th that's it thank you ma'am thank you we voted on two items for me earlier so I just have two more quick things to bring up again thank you everybody for productive productive Pasco day in Tallahassee as both if you already stated was nice to have the governor there and again I saw some of those missions by some of the reporters up in Tallahassee that will pretty slick wasn't it and it was that was good so again thanks you for the team for doing a great job we appreciate everything we think our legislators or everyone will each and every one of them for supporting obviously our legislative agenda everything was has been picked up and we're thrilled about that just two things real quick we have a workshop coming up in February I know the agenda wasn't entirely done but I've asked County Administrator to add our discussion on apartment complexes which we stated in a commission meeting we would have that discussion in a future date we hadn't had it yet so I have requested to have that discussion that day just for your knowledge and you can always ask mr. goldstein for additional information he did I ask him a question on what the possible what are the incentives and subsidies for the standard multifamily apartments in all areas are these urban suburban and rule I don't know if you know this or not but keep this in mind the urban it's three hundred and nine dollars per apartment units suburban 1219 and rule is two thousand five hundred and eighty two so that's what this board is currently incentivizing or subsidizing for each one of those apartment units I think that may come to a shock to some but when we have that discussion and in the workshop we can we can dig a little deeper into that and why we're actually still doing that when we have an oversaturation of something already in this county mr. chairman yes sir didn't we say we wanted to get rid of that subsidy it was some people made that yes I want to name who but I was supportive of it yes some may have been supportive but that was only a discussion that have it as a further discussion right what emotions were important yeah yeah to be clear at the time the board moved forward removing the subsidy for a mini storage we didn't work on it but we did not have three votes to remove it for hormons yeah it was deferred to this feature discussion yeah what's the subsidy on hotel room well it's a hundred percent because hotels are I don't I don't know the dollar amount but it's a hundred percent subsidy we might

add that and just see if we want to just just just change that a little bit because people are built I want hotels but my issue is they build the hotel and they flip it immediately because they're making a profit on our on our subsidy people are walking in and buying our hope our hotels right and left so in having a discussion with mr. goldstein even though I'd love to have somebody make a motion today get rid of those we cannot do that that has to go through a public hearing process but yes but I appreciate it Wow so we can have that discussion unless somebody wants to make a motion that it makes are the phone I'm gonna say we make a motion to remove the subsidies for apartments oh can I get a second on that well I probably be in favor of a reduction but I think we have to we has to still go through the process public process so that's a second well it's a remove or a reduction remove I I don't know I just think we I think that's a big thing and we should discuss it and we will cross that paper major reduction it would be a what his motion is is to have the public hearing in reference to that if we gotta go through the whole process oh yes there's no process so if you second that it means we can have that discussion and have a problem other people can second it I don't have to be the only one to say what I'm just giving you that portunity - sure I you know I still have questions out there what how many apartments rooms do we have compared to the total market and what is the right number I don't want to keep people from who want better housing than some of our older lower priced housing - to not have opportunities but I do agree there could be a saturation point but I think we should discuss that yeah that's good I can I'm very I could be I'm very confident that they will still be built all right look this guy says I have they still be built well let's because the apartment complex now let me modify the motion yes so I move that we take a look at the apartments as far as removing or reducing the subsidy and keeping special focus on West Pasco where we may need them that that's true because there are special I need them on 19 so that's what that'll do this will speed the process up and we have the workshop to have that discussion and then you can start the public hearing notices what's what's a couple weeks workshop in February is a 25th yeah let's just do that the workshop you can't make a most of the workshop but you can no but we can we have where everybody stands I can do my research before there and again I'm not saying I disagree because I think there's a lot of valid points you've made but I don't think today's the day to to make a motion I understand where you're coming from Commissioner but I think we're gonna have a workshop again we're a team there's some things I want to have answers to you before that I will go on record I am trying to find people to build those on in the southwest Pasco County and as part of redevelopment so I

don't want to just blank slate reduce that there are places there may be in Sep for hills I don't know where you need some better rental housing I I don't know but I get that the 54 corridor has a lot of them and probably don't they don't need anymore sometimes the market fixes that but there are areas in the county that still needs much so your incentives are greater as you know for the mudroom T&D a Tod in the West Market area as you stated in the redevelopment in infill area so that's where you would want to continue to look at obviously having what you don't look these are the incentives at that time take a deeper dive into it it's more complex than just I that's up the Commission Mariana he made the motion itself the second who wants to withdraw I can withdraw I'll withdraw my second and just another month that we're gonna keep subsidizing apartments in the east and 54 corridor that we don't need but okay given free money away that's about how much is that 200 200 units you're looking at a you know that's pretty hefty amount of money that we could use of roads in those areas last thing is that something was hard up to me in Commissioner Starkey you probably want to know about this so tax collector I reached out to me yesterday because metropolitan ministries reached out to him and said they got a bill for a p-bass for $25,000 I did get I did get that yes so I got I have to go over I have a copy of the bill right here in which they did do and you know I thought their ingress/egress was on 19 yeah it is yeah sure yeah and then we'll we're researching what happened they have that side the little corner that they go in on the side just but most of it is on 19 yeah yeah and they'll shut that one off if they need do a good point I'm sorry I did get that and I don't know what I didn't okay so you will you will reach out to their let's follow the mysteries in the tax collector yeah and I have a meeting with them coming up next week I think news oh I'd like an answer if I could okay great anything else anybody anybody anybody okay great well adjourn thank you [Music] you