10.22.19 Pasco BOCC Meeting

[Music] thanks [Music] sir good morning everyone just glad to see everyone that came to see us today so we hope to have a good day and and glad that you're here here with us at this time I'd like to call the board of Pasco County Board of County Commission meeting of October 22nd 2019 I would like to remind everyone present please silence all electronic devices and if you would please stand now with me for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance oh merciful Creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and Grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts amen amen of the United States of America and to the rep for it stands one nation God indivisible withy and justice for all um Madam clerk you would call the role and remind the other Commissioners that uh M starky had a medical procedure yesterday and is not here with us today okay District Two commissioner Moore here District Four commissioner Wells here District Five commissioner Mariano here district one chairman Oakley here so all right uh before I open public comment I'd like to remind all the Commissioners there's no conversation back and forth from the D to those giv public comment now is the time for public comment citizens are given an opportunity to speak on any item coming before the board during this public comment section the board also takes public comment on items placed on future board agendas and other business under their preview public comment for public hearing items are taking during those individual public hearings beginning at 1:30 p.m. individ ual speaking during public comment will be given 3 minutes after stating your name and address for the clerk the timer at the podium will start after two minutes One Beat will sound and the light will change from green to Yellow letting you know that you have 1 minute remaining after the timer is up two beeps will sound and the light on the timer will change from yellow to Red indicating the 3 minutes are up and you should close your comment okay Madam Clark would you read the first two or three and get them lined up okay um if you would as I call your name line up behind the podium the first person signed up is Wanda chasnoff second is Diane cernick the third is Patricia Higgins please state your name and address for the record thank you good morning my name is Wanda chasnov I live at 6608 status Lane Newport Rich I'm here to talk to Mr Jack Mareno so he's been out to my area so I have a couple of things here I'd like to address to you one is on our flooding issue in the meeting that you had with Newport Richie where our status is on that okay another

thing that I'm addressing here is Westside Street and my street my street just was broken into one of my mobile homes there that I I'm a caregiver of well we caught the gentleman due to the cameras caught him on west side and you know the drug problem we've been having we got a drug house on the corner of Green Key and Status we've got two on West Side your uh our Pasco County Sheriff's been on West Side quite a bit chasing this guy well they told one of the residents there that not to call them that they we got two drug houses that were're fighting one here and one here lady lives here they come and try to get in her house she put the light on the girl fell she didn't call nobody okay but they C the guy that broke in the one on my street at the end of Westside all kinds of stolen good I helped him catch him I told him where he was at the moment okay number two or number three is what is the rental status of so a a owner renting out properties do no background track checks or anything now this is why we got the drug problem all right here in my door she owns three houses on my street particularly but she don't do any background check and now all we got is drug Haven again and we conquered it there at once then my other thing is we still addressing my neighbor with the cat he's still feeding the Pharaohs I still can't sit in my yard crap him in my garden I'm working on doing better I'm trying to put up a fence I'm trying to put up electric guideline to keep them off my property but I'm on just ability so my money is limited but I'd also like to let you know due to Mr Mareno we got two drug houses gone we got a cat problem partially taken care of due to your help and hope that others in T and we gave $400 to the Sheriff's Department K9 unit due to the help of the sheriff's department and your health please would you help me conquer these things I'm an active Citizen and I'm a taxpayer please help me conquer these things that I'm wanting to get done have a nice day thank you thank you for your comments name and address for the clerk hello my name is Diane cnick 50001 Southshore member of Gul Harbors United on the agenda today is consent item 45 you consented to pay just shy of $100,000 for a second study for the drudging after wasting 39,000 on a previous study that had to be disregarded because the scope of work given to duberry was overly Broad and unrealistic but this isn't bother you after all you have already indicated that the cost will be passed down to the property owners in another form of another msvu Municipal service benefit unit I don't think it benefits Property Owners to continuously having their tax increase for your special pet projects in fact if you are honest the ones that will truly benefit from deeper channels are the ones that will not be paying for this voters with the need of deeper channels commercial boating activities including the restaurants with boat slips and future commercial activities what share will they pay so now the county is paying more

than $139,000 on studies for this dredging project and the reason this will be passed on to your citizens is because you failed to meet the restore funding requirements which would have allowed the restore funds to pay this study forget the fact that store committee cancell three meetings in a row this is your incompetency Mr Mariano you accuse the city of Port Richie mayor for squandering City monies that is the pop calling the kettle black by the way whatever happened to the $1 million plus of State funding that was allocated for the Hudson Channel dredging program that expired if the project was not started by June 30th 2005 four Mr Dan biles which is's not here with your former military experience and former Colonel I expected you to have tighter Reigns on these Shenanigans a major question remains unanswered where will the funding for the project come from who will pay for this dredging let me make myself perfectly clear your citizens are not your open checkbook for your pet projects and certainly not without a very serious fight thank you for your attention thank you for your comments good morning my name is Patricia Higgins I live live at 15400 bermani Street not the ongoing problem on at one 5324 Cary Lane which has been going on for 14 years which Mr Mariano knows about he's been there a few times earlier on when I lived there before he drove me out um anyways I call code enforcement supposed to be on the anonymous line and Erica answered and was called I was calling about Carrie Lane also I want to say something about my street Bonzi Street which is right back to back um that is the home of BRC Enterprises and the residence of the owner of that property the building for business was never permitted um his abuse of the law on his property has been going on for 14 years I know of he's a weekend Warrior and has done a lot of damage to the property numerous complaints have been made Erica looked it up and said any work on that property was permitted I was checking because he has dug numerous holes with 10 to 15 foot piles of dirt I also wanted to report the mess at 15335 for MSY Street on Saturday no or September 21st first they started demolition of an old wide to double wide mobile home when told we were going to turn them in because there was no permit for this um they stopped but on Monday early they came to code enforcement got a permit to tear it down and then left the mess it's still there I called and reported it I put in two um complaints on one on each property I haven't seen too much going on um the lady was rude to me this Erica person I think she needs some lessons in uh speaking with the public she went when I said about berzi street she said I want to know where you're going with

this you started on Cary Lane now you're on Bonzi Street hello I've been new on this I wanted to talk with Micah who knew about the situation but he's not available um I told her that I thought she was very rude she said what did you say I said I told you I was you were very rude and I terminated the call she said that that was all permitted but the next day when I called because I was still upset I was told that there were no permits for Mr Bumstead issued for the digging now what do we do we take pictures they won't accept our pictures Mr Mariano told us to take time up okay all right thank you for your comments thank you okay Micah's right in the back Micah raise your hand okay thank you the um next signed up is William Fuller followed by John cybart and followed by Cheryl Orchard if you could please line up thank you my name is William fer I live in 15400 banzi Street also in Hudson and I'm continuing on about Bruce Bumstead I've got a card a business card of his and everybody says he's not run a commercial business well why is he Distributing business cards with his name on it and the address on it and it's in the agriculture residential area and he has no permission for nothing he gets away with everything and that place on the place on verzi street that they started Wrecking down well that's still there it's still mess they hav cleaned up it's been over a month it started in August here it is October still got a mess there never cleaned up I mean something should be done about there's there's a styrofoam blowing all over the yards there's crap scrap growing all over the yards because the wind picks up takes it everywhere CU they don't clean up the mess I wish somebody could do something about it and enforce things I had to pay $420 for a permit for put a 10 x 12 shed on my property and he these people get away with all this weekend warrior crap and don't pay any permits it's about time somebody in Pasco County got off their Duff and did something about these people they're doing this crap and getting away with it thank you have a good day if you will hand that card to Micah there in the back I will show to him yes okay good yes sir name and address good morning John cart I'm the HOA president at the Estates Our concern at the Estates right now or our focus is on the closed golf course we had a representative attend your Workshop shop a few weeks ago and gave you information on the links which had closed the problem with the links closing it that it has impacted not only our neighborhood which is the Estates but also the reserve Beacon Point Bearington Woods Fairway Oaks Milwood Village you're looking at well over a thousand homes that are impacted by this closed golf course now I'm not looking to to control someone's business but if you have a business of a golf course you have an obligation to take care of it when you close that and leave it closed

if you take a look at the news uh brief this morning that was on Bay news9 you're going to get a pretty good snapshot of what our neighborhood looks like and what the golf course looks like today now how is it impacting us it's impacting us because we spend a lot of time and money maintaining our homes which increases the value which in turn we pay more taxes as a value of their home Rises now we have a golf course that looks it's dead it's a detriment to our neighborhood not just looking at it but also now you have Tall Grass Vermin snakes standing water which is mosquitoes now our health is at risk and then when you got all these animals now we get more coyotes so there's a lot of things that are happening the other part of it taking away the health concern is flooding concern when you don't maintain your detention ponds which a lot of ours are on the golf course we could at some point in time start having issues with storm water runoff so what I'm asking for you to do for our communities is please take a look at an ordinance that would require the golf course owner or any golf course in Pasco County if they're going to close they have to realize they have to maintain it on another note maybe there's something you can do to help these businesses I know the only thing that would maybe uh be on an agenda to look at would be your Wastewater or reclaimed water that they use for watering the fairways maybe there can be something done there to offset some of their cost in any case we're looking for your help please get this on the agenda and please create a new ordinance that would require any golf course owner to maintain the course after it's closed thank you thank you for your comments Mr chairman how many people did you bring with you just so the commission know because they want to speak to everybody as he let me ask you this as he said uh basically what everybody wants to speak to that same item because you don't necessarily have to come tell the Commissioners that 50 times because we heard it very loud and clear from John here so okay just to understand snowbirds haven't come back yet so there's a lot more that are concerned we understand that it affects more than just yourself I know that and these others yes sir thank you yes ma'am my name is Cheryl Orchard I live at 6719 Manor Beach Road in Newport Richie off of green key I'm here today first of all I want to address and thank every one of you Commissioners uh and the storm water that's been in working figuring out the problems that we have in the neighborhood it's bringing hope back to our neighborhood and it's a lot nicer when we can work together and work through these problems they didn't happen overnight it's going to take time but we have hope and we need help in there and the help we've got so far we appreciate every bit of it and I want to thank every one of you Commissioners for for that my understanding was the news

channel came out there a lot of people are uninformed about how much they are working some of these parts that they had to get had to be shipped in from Sweden that is going to control some of the water problems but there's times that they can install these too the tide has to be down there's other issues that they have to correct to make this water go away some of those streets are underwater oh my goodness three to three and a half weeks a month they get water they have to wait till their cars in and the cars in there have to wait you know drive through that brackish water they have more hope now we formed a neighborhood watch which should help with some of the crime people know that you're you know you're in there and people are concerned about their neighborhood just want to thank everyone you for what you've done and I hope you continue with it and keep the Hope going thank you thank you all right the uh next three who signed up um I might mispronounce your last name Mr Steve auu R4 sorry about that if I did pronounce that incorrectly um Gail Swedberg and Dan Callahan thank you uh Mr chairman and Commissioners for allowing us a chance to speak my name is Steve auger I'm the CEO of bird song housing DDR development we're based in CMI Florida um and I'm here to speak on the local government contribution uh item that you have later on in your action agenda uh there was three developments that were passed up uh from the the process that that y'all established through the HFA the local Housing Finance Authority these are to make recommendations for y'all to select a deal for the local government contribution and by selecting one deal you give both Pasco County and that application a better shot of getting funded in Florida Housing Finance corporations Award of tax credits the uh it was a thoughtful process that staff ran and and and we're grateful to be one of the three Deals we were the deal that you all selected last year tager Court um which is at the intersection of uh uh old uh Road 54 and and and and uh County Road 54 in that 5456 Corridor it's the one of the three that's in that Corridor the uh the analysis that was done by Mr Hendrickson who made this recommendation to staff in the HFA uh after working with staff on on coming up with the application process uh the main delineation in his mind was the number of units that bayonet Gardens uh that staff's recommending to you uh had versus some of the other applications one of the things that was mentioned in his analysis that you'll see but wasn't highlighted was that it's a wood frame construction ours is Concrete Construction we believe that's Superior design type but obviously cost more um was one of the reasons we had the most aggressive repayment terms highest interest rate at 3% and a 15year uh term and amortization of that loan um knowing that there was more expensive uh construction design type based on that and the location um

of our development we hope that you'll consider it was included in the three because they you know they were they were a good development and you all are in the the enviable position of having good choices to choose from I was the director of the Florida Housing Finance Corporation for 11 plus years and and it was during that tenure that we implemented this of having local governments select one and the idea was since the resources the tax credits were so scarce we wanted to make sure that local governments that were willing to make you know that kind of selection and we're willing to put that kind of resource into a development had a better chance of getting funded and whichever way you go we appreciate your willingness to do that your willingness of prioritizing affordable housing uh in your county is as a priority and uh and we hope we uh we hope you'll select us again this year but thank you for for all that you're doing and thanks to staff they've been uh thoughtful accessible and U and you know easy to work with we appreciate that thank you for your comments yes sir good morning my name is Gail Swedberg 4719 Largo Terrace in Newport Richie I also want to start out by thanking everyone for all the help with the flood issues and everything over on Green Key we're looking forward to that getting resolved hopefully in the near future um I have two items that I wanted to ask you about um as everybody knows we deal with code every time you hear I had to call code and I talked to this person there's so many names and I don't even know who these people are I know who I talk to um I'm wondering if there isn't a website or some way to have like monthly or you know every three months to have meetings with code enforcement so that the residents can sit down and ask their questions and see the status of violations rather than everybody calling their officer of choice um I think that would be real helpful to get some answers I also have um a sheet here I'd like to hand out that has a list of code violations that are over two years old and they're still not being addressed proce second I have a motion in a second all those in favor say I I um another thing another thing that I wanted to ask about is The Dumping um we're forever having mattresses couches everything dumped on olner in particular particular cuz it's dark back there there's not ample lighting um there's no signs that say no dumping I don't know what the requirements are to have those posted there so that they can be enforced um there's couches back there they're right off the street but they're visible when you drive by um right on the corner of bow and olner in particular so that is a a real bad area for The Dumping so again any kind of website or anywhere we can get answers rather than making those phone calls and tying up the code enforcement officers that are trying to do their job thank you all right thank

you name and address for the clerk Dan Callahan 7108 daget Terrace Newport Richie I spent all of September and a little of October in Upstate New York near coopertown so I'm sure I've missed out on some of the major news here in Pasco County so tell me did you get the permit on September 23rd from the US Army Corps of Engineers to slice and dice the 6,500 Acres of the sanova Wilderness that you've spent $13 million on since 1998 you didn't you mean that despite your efforts and that of Commissioners over the more than 20 years and the begging of Congressman Gus bakis and a meeting with Trump and the ultra white house that you still fail to get that little old permit I can imagine how embarrassed you are to have spent so much money that could have gone for repairs to roads and streets or for flood abatement with not even a shovel full of dirt turned over $13 million I can imagine how disappointed the developers and the contractors and the Realtors and the insurance companies and the title companies are that you again fail to get this permit to build a four-lane highway to nowhere but new develop ments a highway that most Pasco citizens will never use a highway that is not truly needed as a hurricane evacu evacuation route that you chicken littles constantly cluck about without a shred of evidence that it's needed or wanted let's say that tomorrow the US Army Corps of Engineers ignores reality and decides to give you the permit regardless of the increase of wetlands you will now destroy and despite the lack of environmental impact studies and reports required by the US fish and wildlife on four species of animals that may be destroyed in The serenova Preserve we know the Bexley who own a stretch of what would be the Ridge Road Extension won't allow you to conduct studies on their piece of property due to your past record of Lies so in your alternate universe let's imagine wrongs are ignored and you get the permit a federal judge will respond to a notice of intent from the Corp of Engineers which will give our serenova coalition and its attorneys up to 90 days to point out in the thousands of letters and reports we've sent them why this uh permit should be rescinded we will file a lawsuit in federal courts that will require the defendants that you to pay all court costs when we win the US Army of cor core of engineers will eventually send its findings in a nice letter to you and it will raise 10 or 12 reasons why the permit should be withdrawn and it will rule in your favor probably two or three or four of those things and it will then take back the permit because of the others you will appeal to their Atlanta office and the Army Corps of Engineers will take three to five years to make its final decision and at some point the federal judge will also make his or her decision and then you will lose finally and completely here's hoping I'm still here for the last Act of this governmental tragedy of

Errors thank you for your comments the next three individuals signed up are Fran Deano um I'm unable to pronounce the first name or read the first name the last name is herck lives on Carrie Lane then we have Chris Shear thank you state your name and address please good morning Francis Deano 8837 Kilmer Way Hudson Florida I'd like to start off by saying thank you everyone we appreciate all your help and everything you do do if a community doesn't work together we don't accomplish anything our President John Cort came up and explained from the links I just have a few to add in those thousand homes we have our seniors that have retired and living on fixed incomes some abled some disabled but they get out there and they take care of their properties we have our children living in these homes we have new people coming into the area because they love Pasco County most important is we we have our veterans they are disabled and some are not disabled they fought for us and I am asking please a proposal or some kind of bill that you can pass and help us as Community working together that anyone that has a business that goes under and we realize that happens to have them to maintain their properties because if I owned 10 rental properties in Pasco County I would be made maintain my property I believe there is an ordinance that Pasa would probably cut it for me and then charge me so we're just asking to work with us we certainly we appreciate everything you do for us but remember in those veterans that are living in the homes they fought for us can we all just fight for them and we thank you good day I'm Donna herck 15401 Cary lean and I'm one of those veterans that she was talking about um and I just would like to know if there if uh the zoning agency the U why is there a different uh code for the south end and the west side of Cary Lane that we have to maintain our property we can't have unlicensed cars that we're working on in the yard without having to have them hauled away um we build a fire in a fire pit the fire department the police are called but the one that does the complaining has a 10t high fire in the middle of the trees that are left we had to we had to get a permit to cut down half of a tree that Irma left but he can cut down 55 trees and doesn't need a permit we have to have um the the yards cleaned up everything has to have a license on it there is a camper with about a/ inch of black mold on it a a boat full of junk trash a truck in all shapes of disrepair stuck in the woods there's when we moved there 11 years ago there was an old mobile home condemned across the street but this is the same weekend worrier that Pat was talking about um he moved a little house in on the corner of Bolton and Cary Lane with no permit cuz he did it on a weekend he pulled The Condemned mobile home out put a new one in no

permit just maybe a month later he's got one well that furnishes both of these uh these places and uh the little house that was moved in is paying the electric on the pump that feeds both homes and they both belong to the same guy uh he's last time I heard he had until November of last year to fill in a hole that he sold about 40 loads of sand out of that hole is still there and there's more sand piled up evidently more holes being dug I was told he was going to go to jail if he didn't have filled in by November but November came and went another November is here and I want to know is all these government entities for all of Pasco County are just the ones that can afford it thank you thank you name and address for the clerk good good morning chairman Commissioners my name is Chris Shear I'm the managing director of McDow housing Partners um here today on behalf of item r four which is a local government contribution uh that Mr auger had explained in more detail in regards to that process um my project bayonet Gardens is the current is the number one ranked development uh elderly development it is located in Hudson it is adjacent to Regional Medical Center Bayonet Point um we take a lot of time and care we're long-term owners operators of affordable and Workforce housing assets I've been working in Pasco County for the last 6 years completing three developments um all of which are along the us19 corridor and of those three developments we have all been Wood Construction frame construction uh there's a lot of you know there's there's a lot of code behind allowing frame construction so the differentiation between concrete and frame is not as drastic as it may seem we have impact windows we Zone velocity zones in terms of the wind loads so those projects are all built they're all successful and I've switched my focus more to senior population I think it's undeniable that there is a huge demand and need for senior housing here it's very much underserved most of the affordable housing development that's been built in the last six years has all been family oriented development uh of the nine elderly developments that are in Pasco County all of them are in Port Richie and Newport Richie and two in Zephyr Hills there's nothing further up 19 in the Hudson market and so we spent a lot of time identifying a specific site that we would thought would drive the most value Our intention is to deliver a product in partner with the county over the long term here this development has the most units for the lowest investment on behalf of the county we've committed to keep it affordable in perpetuity we have um exceeded the fhfc requirements to uh provide resident services programs we are providing all of the five resident service programs that the that Florida housing permits or gives us an option to provide um and in addition

we're providing 100% of our extremely low income levels which are 30% Ami units as special needs units Florida housing only requires 50 those units will serve specifically seniors often veterans Mobility uh dis impair units so those units I think are very important given the proximity of the development site to Regional Medical Center and overall I just hope that you guys take a look at the true merits of the development uh despite anything else and vote on the merits of the deal and what's going to drive the most impact and benefit to the county thank you for your time all right thank you the next three individuals signed up is um Shan Wilson Laurel McDonald and Jeff harand name and address for the clerk yes sir uh good morning Shan Wilson president of Blue Sky communities 53000 West Cypress Street in Tampa I'm here today regarding uh item R4 the recommendation for the local government area of opportunity funding the same thing that um um my two competitors were here talking about uh my company is the Gul View application our site is on Hudson Avenue directly next door to Hudson Elementary where there's a little bit of homeless activity right right now I want to point out we do not own the site we're not responsible for the homeless activity we we have a contract to purchase it um we were the number one ranked family oriented development and there of course there's a great need for family uh housing in Pasco County as well I've I want to clarify uh one thing before I talk about all the great things about G few Place uh first of all the the HFA met and they voted to pass along um two and then three applications to you guys without a particular distinction between the three they were leaving it up to the board to decide which of the three the the preamble to the agenda item indicated that bayonet Gardens was being recommended and so we hope you'll really take into consideration how what the HFA voted which was not to which was to leave up to y'all whether bayonet Gardens Gul viw place or Tanager court and of course I'm here for G view plays Staffing consultant they did a great job reviewing the applications and um they narrowed it down using a broad brush approach but that approach did not draw every distinction that you guys really need to draw um for many reasons GF view is the best choice today I'm going to mention a few and my colleagues are going to come up behind me and and they're going to mention one or two more um let's talk about quality of the developer now really it's most about the what and not so much about The Who our site is better my guys are going to talk about that but let's talk about the who because this is not just a one-day decision for you guys this is not just a decision you're going to make it and you're done and we apply and we get our funding from the state this is a 52e relationship two years to get it permitted and built and then 50 years of

affordability so um we we're the most experienced we've completed nine developments the other groups they have some experienced folks on their team they had I didn't see where they had actually completed anything we're local we're based in Tampa you can go see any of our properties in St Petersburg or Tampa and I I think you're going to be very pleased I'm I'm a leader our company is a leader I testified in front of the Senate Ted committee last week advocating for more funding for affordable housing the the wonderful Senator Simpson was there and um and I I really think that you know we we stand out as the top developer among the group let's talk about intangibles ability to follow rules level of effort attention to detail this is Pretend This is a job application the RFP clearly stated the financial summary must be in the format if acceptable to to f fhfc banet Gardens did not follow that rule that was overlooked bayonet Gardens did not make the effort to provide a preliminary site plan we did bayonet Gardens submitted a financial performa that yes it said bayonet Gardens and right below it it said Douglas Gardens and pemboke Pines that's sloppy if that if this was a job application would you hire that person finally Property Management our property management is local we've been around for 50 years you're going to hear some details about that you want somebody who's going to maintain the property thank you very much Mr chairman comments yes sir good morning uh my name is Laurel MacDonald I'm the president of Carterette management uh 5300 West Cyprus located in Tampa Florida as Sean mentioned we have a nearly five decade history of operating affordable housing here in Florida we're based nearby in Tampa and our current portfolio consists of 23 properties comprised of nearly 3,000 Apartments we are an affiliate of blue sky and with shared ownership and shared offices we work very closely with their team to ensure continuity between their initial vision and its long-term implementation for me this business is personal my grandfather started cared in 1971 to manage two affordable sites in St Petersburg which we still run today I'd be happy to show you these as a commit as an example of our commitment to Excellence and our ability to maintain assets long term my father subsequently grew Carterette and has mentored me over the last 10 years during my tenure with the company I can attest firsthand to our company's commitment to providing exceptional housing for our community's hardest working families deserving seniors and other vulnerable groups cat's focus is on the long term it's our our promise to our owners our communities our local governments and our residents that we will maintain their properties in the years to come and we have a 48-year track record of making good on these commitments we do all the same things you'd expect from the conventional site down the street good curb appeal strong resident relations strong management

programs and at the same time we maintain strict commitment to the rigorous compliance practices mandated by affordable housing we facilitate programming and Partnerships to enhance the lives of our residents to make sure that they can achieve success and Independence and we are constantly seeking out best best practices via our role as an accredited management organization through the Institute of Real Estate Management as well as other industry affiliations 48 years of History will show you that our experience is solid and our commitment to managing excellent properties will not waver as you elect a developer and a site for new affordable housing here in Pasco I hope you will consider not only Blue Sky impeccable record as a developer but also carteret's reputation as property manager thank you for your time and consideration thank you name and address for the clerk Jeff Harland 4310 Whitner Drive Land of Lakes uh good morning Mr chair and Commissioners I'm the vice pres of acquis Vice President of Acquisitions for Blue Sky communities the applicant for golf VI plays our history with this site started in 2017 we identified it as a superb opportunity for affordable housing we took we got it under contract we took it through the resoning process uh you guys embraced the concept and approved our rezoning in 2018 this lgo funding lgao funding that we're requesting is the next step in making that affordable housing happen um I'm the Acquisitions guy I'm always out looking at sites and whether it's for elderly or for family or for disabled veterans or for homeless you know the details matter not every site is equal uh we believe golf you place is the best site and I want to explain a couple reasons why um Hudson Elementary is Right Hudson Elementary School is right next door the bus stop is right outside our site Walgreens and wind Dixie is right across the street behind wind Dixie is the Regional Medical Center Bay at Point all of these are needed services for residents and they're all walkable from our site walkable on a sidewalk Sean mentioned details just want to bring this up as it applies to site selection bayonet Gardens um uses the same service as we do essentially um but they're not as close and they're not truly walkable um you can walk a couple blocks up Lakeshore Boulevard from their site uh to 5A Road or across jacku Road a couple blocks to 5A Road and catch a bus but or you can walk up to the medical center or you can walk up to wind Dixie but you'll be doing it on the street or in the grass because there are no sidewalks in this area uh I'm not I'm I'm truly not saying this to disparage bayet Gardens I'm just trying to point out that when blue sky looks for a a site to serve a population we take all these details into consideration because they matter um speaking of people in need Sean brought up uh the site currently has some homeless activity on it I recognized it a while back I talked to some of the neighbors they indicated that there's always 10 to 20 people

living in the woods um you know that's a a a the kids in the area know that they're not supposed to to go in the woods there's a school next door the development of place would would um take away that danger and and create affordable housing for those in needs we are a mission driven company as both my colleagues had mentioned um in that effort I'll put go on record now and say that blue sky will provide limited financial assistance for all the homeless people living in that site when we start construction to help them transition to regular housing um I'm active uh I'm as a veteran um I'm last weekend I participated in the standown I don't if you guys are aware of this um one Community now I just recently found out about they bring all the homeless vets from Hillsboro and penil and Pasco and they bring them up to the uh the police um the the um Safety Town and and it's amazing if you haven't done that please do it'll change your perspective on life I'm active locally with uh affordable housing committees uh working with nonprofits and the government and pro um for profit companies and all trying to find out how can we bring more housing affordable housing uh to Pasco County and make it last um again we're here to ask your support uh to make go VI Place become a reality thank you thank you okay next three individuals who signed up is Frank cornier or cornier uh Alan Rose and Eddie vaselopulos good morning you did pronounce it correctly the first time it is Frank cornier okay I'm a resident of Pascal County I live at 18 209 Howland house Loop in Lando Lakes I'd like to thank the chair and the Commissioners for this opportunity to speak this morning uh I am a project manager for Blue Sky communities and I would be the property manager on Gul you place so that you can be assur that um of a high degree of responsiveness I do care about Pasco County that's why it's important to me you may be looking at the number of units in these projects that you're uh deciding upon bayonet has 120 units and go few place has 92 but in terms of overall impact it's nearly identical 174 bedrooms to 172 so the number of units I'm sorry the number of individuals served is equal I hope your decision is not solely based on units yeah so as I tell you what not to pay attention to I want to call your attention to certain things that you do want to pay attention to such as income targeting Gul VI is targeting a wider range of Workforce families with 12 of our units at the 80% Ami income level Gulu is a true mixed income Community with three income levels by comparison bayonet only has two income categories and none of which are at 80% Ami another thing to pay attention to is that bayonet Gardens did not know who their property manager would be in their application so you Commissioners won't know and don't know as of now who the property manager on their project would be finally we have great linkages to non not for-profit communities not for-profit agencies in our community for

example Metropolitan Ministries a leading not for-profit in this area allow me to read a letter um or portions of a letter written by Tim Marks executive director for Metropolitan Ministries I'm just going to touch on three paragraphs which I think are the most important and I'll provide this to the clerk uh as well Mr Mark uh stat as you consider the best action to take I I am submitting this letter of support on behalf of the families we serve we need more affordable apartments for families to keep children safe and families together Pasco Public Schools students in transition reports 1,63 students from 430 families are either doubled up living in motels surviving in substandard housing or residing in shelters affordable housing for families can keep Pascal families from becoming homeless as well as supporting families transitioning from Shel from shelters we support Blue Sky community's efforts to bring affordable housing for families in Pasco County from our experience Blue Sky partners and staff are expert in navigating not only the nuts and bolts of the real estate development but they know the funding programs inside and out blue sky is local and that makes a big difference in their ability to respond to the community's concerns and needs maybe the best part about working with blue sky is their people sea and his team are friendly Cooperative eager to please and creative thank you for your leadership and consideration of all proposals with gratitude Tim Marks thank you thank you name and address for the clerk yes good morning my name is Alan Rose 10221 Hilltop Drive Newport Richie today I'm just going to bring something to your attention I've been sending you all emails so you should have an idea what's coming Mo most recently I sent you an an email to others also that there's approximately $500 million in available funds that we could go after we could seek before I brought you 250 million another time was 160 million we have all these millions of dollars available through grants through direct funding and we're not going after it we're not getting it we're not taking care of what needs to be taken care of currently we have Cruise Lake Hudson Beach Green Key Robert K re Memorial Park Key Vista 12 Harbors all in need of help these are live Parks these are parks that we have ownership of and we are neglecting them we have lost the beach at Hudson we have lost the beach at uh Green Key they're gone I've taken pictures I've sent you pictures so you can see they're gone they're not they're not IR retrievable but we need to take action you all have a fiduciary responsibility and I know you all take it seriously and do a good job but there are people that are responsible to you that are not doing their job properly somebody's dropping the ball this money this funding is available has been available I've been coming to you for 5 years with these different projects and and fund I didn't realize it was a funding issue I started

bringing you funding because I know where to find it now I've been bringing you funding I still see no one taking action to help the county the county we are we are on a limited budget we have limited funds you can reach out and look at this and I send you the actual numbers so you can go and apply for these directly whoever is responsible for this this and get some money rolling in for the county it's not that difficult it's a three three-page application and then you start hearing from our other County members there are concerns of uh msbu and what have you if somebody in the county was going after this money you would have millions of dollars in the kitty to afford this another part of the county will say we don't have the Personnel staff we don't have the staff to attach this well there's enough funding in here that you can you can publicly you can fund this position that would go after this money for you have one person two people going after these funds that are available throughout the government just go out reach out and get it and you'll have somebody that may cost you $40,000 a year as a funding as an additional funding person can bring you in an extra one or2 million a year these projects can be done and there's no reason for it not being tackled it's somebody that's responsible to you that's not taking action for us so please take a look at it thank you thank you name and address uh Eddie vasilopoulos uh I'm a private investor landlord uh in Holiday I own numerous properties there um I just my issue is uh is pretty simple I uh approximately three years ago I initiated a petition to repay Berg Road uh as well as the adjacent road which is Acme road which is a dirt road um I initiated with Miss starky's office I actually had a meeting with Miss star on the issue and uh the petition failed uh I waited approximately a year year and a half later I initiated a second petition uh that as well failed uh which was about uh one year ago um the road looks like it's been bombed by the Germans during the blitz Creek it's very very bad it's got huge potholes um I have a I have a big elderly population that lives uh that are my tenants and they often complain to me about it and and they have difficulty transversing that road it's been uh the potholes have been filled numerous times they just reappear again uh uh basically I'm asking if the county could pave the road it's I'm I and I understand there's going to be a special assessment in terms of taxes I'm happy to pay it I'm a good landlord I uh I take good care of my tenants I fix things when they need to be fixed um I believe in Pascal County um one other thing though uh espe Engineers report was actually conducted by Pasco County during that time to assess the damage of the road and they uh the county themselves said it's substandard and needs to be fixed sooner than later I notice a lot of other roads in Holiday uh are repaved time and time again that don't even need Paving I I don't understand it uh I'm just asking

for a little asphal here um if that could be looked at I I would I would greatly I would greatly appreciate it um also I recently invested about $25,000 in a water project on Burke Road to upgrade the uh to add city city water to my properties as well as I had wellwater and uh and that was recently completed so I'm willing to make the investment uh I only hope that your your office can can do as well right that's all I have all right thank you for your comments thank you Mr cavalo you you got the name of those RADS give me a back report on it so okay thank you anybody else yes I only have uh two left that signed up Dominic scanavino and don't know if the individual wrote their name is it Deco hopping Mr chairman distinguished commission my name is Dominic scanavino and I'm the president of the Council of neor neighborhood associations in Pasco County in addition to which I'm also the owner and CEO of management and Associates which is a Community Association Management Company uh and I'm here on behalf of the membership of the Council of neighborhood associations Kona recently as recent as last may I have been requested by several members to please uh uh address the commission regarding uh these abandoned golf courses as you know many of the developers in the past uh were required to put in uh recreational facilities and one of the best ones to do was to put in a golf course uh the reason for that was purely to mitigate storm water management one of my my concerns and one of their concerns is that in particular the one that you just heard in Pascal County in Hudson the lynx Golf Course uh is an integral part of the storm waterer management of that Community uh the other the other issues that I have is with respect to uh comments we have we have worked together in the past uh uh with the County Commission and and we would like to continue to work with the County Commission to hopefully resolve this uh interesting development that has occurred the folks from the Estates at Beacon Woods are have purchased their properties back in the 80s and they purchased these properties at at premium dollars because they were adjacent to a golf course now now all of a sudden that Golf Course is abandoned we ask that we can work in concert together with the board with the commun with the the board and its staff uh to hopefully come up with an ordinance that would address the situation and rectify it thank you very much for your time thank you good morning I'm D hopping and I live at 2846 bayad Road Dade City I'm here to speak on the proposed 130 acre 675 RV space plus hotel resort plan for development in the northeast corner where Lake Iola intersects I75 which is to come before you in the near future I want to invite you to walk a mile a country mile in my boots I live in the

country on a 20 Acre Farm just down the road from the proposed development the country roads are narrow and bumpy and yes we like them that way and where there are still few enough passerbys that we can lift our hands from the steering wheel to wave the pastures are lush green swaying in the country breezes where cattle horses goats and sheep hily graze Pleasure horses are ridden down our roads and cowboys yes real cowboys are still seen on their horses lassoing and driving cattle these are the places that individuals coming from cities and suburbs long to see and upon arriving take a deep breath of fresh crunchy air and find rest for their souls these are the parts of Pasco County to which families take a Sunday drive to enjoy our Scenic byways burn Northeast Pascal rural protection overlay section 64.1 this District's intent is to protect the character of the rural landscape preserve Scenic views and Vistas and ensure that on-site development is compatible with the character of the surrounding area Pasco County has designated Lake iol Road as a Northeast Pasco County Rural residential road for the purposes a protecting rural character and according to Fu 2.3.3 C development proposals where access is limited only to rural residential roadways shall be considered unacceptable for uses of urban density or intensity this is clearly a dense urbal develop Urban Development and not characteristic of the surrounding areas also the land in question is zoned a and a residential our County's zoning standards state that these zonings are quote to preserve the rural and open character of various lands to allow the development of relatively large tracks of land to accommodate those individuals to desire who desire a rural living environment and to promote conservation of rural environment through limiting the intensity of development I understand your desires to bring Revenue to Pasco County and I understand a man desires to further his business however the picture painted for you of our tranquil Pasco Countryside begs the question is it possible to bring desired Revenue to Pasco County without developing the lake Iola RV cond resort and is it possible for Mr amen the land owner and developer to BR further his business goals elsewhere in areas designated for this type of development I'm simply here to ask each of you to say no to this Resort and thus preserve our County's attractive Countryside and our country way of life thank you for your time and attention thank you that's the last person I had signed up rece got a motion and a second all those fav say I iose like sign motion pass I have no one else signed up at this time to speak is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak at this time I understand we're gon finish this public we're gonna do it right after this gentleman speaks or is there one more okay name and address for the clerk

yes sir uh my name is Mitchell C cernick I live at 5000 wi Southshore in Gulf Harbors um we've heard a couple of people come up and say that an ordinance to have Golf Course is maintained would be a good idea uh this was referencing the links but I also want to remind the board that there's there are other golf courses in that same situation in my case in Gulf Harbor there's a golf course that's been defunct for over 10 to 15 years and the owner has not been held accountable to maintain it there are ordinances on the books for maintaining a perimeter already um but that's not enough to to Really deal with the issue of the entire Golf Course uh so I would want to support that ordinance as well trying to hold Golf Course owners not just at the links there are others as well and I've also heard some talk about an initiative at the state level to create uh to present a bill or a law to form a law to have uh a Statewide uh law to create uh some some accountability for Golf Course owners as well so this issue goes beyond just Pasco County there this is getting a lot more attention now and Pasco County by creating such an ordinance can actually be perhaps a leader in this regard and not wait for the state to step in and mandate it for everybody thank you okay thank you yes sir state your name and address for the clerk Ken dabs 4617 Flor Mar Terrace Newport Richie Florida which is golf Harbors uh let start off saying I don't oppose dredging but I don't support dredging and the reason is I don't have any facts to base support or opposition on what I do oppose is is this waste of money by you folks you paid over $38,000 for a duberry study I don't know I expect to find facts in a study go to page six and it says that the county now owns the go golf Harbor's golf course you know I can take any high schooler put them on the Internet have them go to the tax collector's records and pull up the proper owner for that and you all know you don't own it there's a lawsuit on it so why why would you pay $38,000 of these folks money and my money for some that is just full of errors and you you say yourselves I think it's uh Jack Mariano said recently that the scope and and things weren't well defined in the contract why who who's putting out contracts here that doesn't know how to put out a contract why are they working here we have a county attorney what's he doing doesn't he review contracts I'll tell you what the county attorney's office is doing when I put in a public request I have the assistant County attorney trying to block everything I put through and I have friends that have the same problems maybe we could take some of that time and have the County Attorney review some of these contracts I said I'm not against dredging because I don't have

any data you can't go by the duberry report but somebody needs to pay for the DeBerry report or you Commissioners need to pay for it but I don't think the taxpayers should be paying for something that's that full of holes thank you okay thank you for your comments Mr chairman can I comment on that real quick because the study that we did was a high level it wasn't going into borings like we need to go it wasn't talking into quantities specifically measured that's all I said we we did for the money we spent was an economical survey to get us from ground one to extent all right thank you thank you all right that ends our public comment for today and we will go in to resolutions resolution one if you are here for Community planning month please step up to the podium okay resolution number 20-8 a resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pascal County Florida recognizing the month of October as Community planning month in Pasco whereas change is constant and affects all cities towns suburbs counties buroughs townships rural areas and other places and Ras Community planning and plans can be managed this can manage this change in a way that provides better choices for how people work live and play the goal of planning is to maximize the health safety and economic well-being for all residents and Ras Community planning provides an opportunity for all residents to be meaningfully involved in making choices that determine the future of their community and whereas the full benefits of planning requires public officials and citizens who understand support and demand excellence in planning and plan implementation and whereas the month of October is designated as National Community planning month throughout the United States of America and its territories and whereas the American Planning Association and its professional Institute the American Institute of certified planners endorsed National Community planning month as an opportunity to highlight the contributions sound planning and plan implementation make to the quality of our communities and environment and whereas a celebration of national Community planning month gives us the opportunity to publicly recognize the participation and dedication of the members of the Planning Commission and other citizen planners who have contributed their time and expertise to the Improvement of Pasco County andas we recognize the many valuable contributions made by professional community and Regional planners of Pasco County and extend our heartfelt thanks for the continued commitment to public service by these professionals now therefore be it resolved by the board of County commissioners of Pascal County Florida that said board hereby recognizes the month of October as Community planning month in Pasco County done and resolved in regular session with a quum president and voting this 22nd day of October

2019 motion move for approval second got a motion and second all those in favor say I I all paos black sign motion passed welcome Terry and your group thank you Mr chairman nario PTO Planning and Development Department director uh thank you and thank you to the board of County Commissioners for the recognition of the good planning work happening in the county also thank you to County admin County Administrator Dan biles and our assistant County Administrator Don Rosenthal for their support uh every day we also work with other planning agencies in the county like community development pcpt project management parks and natural resources and their their many and we're thankful to them as well as they participate and do great planning work on their own um I'd also like to share the recognition with the numerous citizen groups that work with us to help plan the county uh lastly I'm very grateful for each of the members of the Planning Development Department team which are standing behind me here um all of them do really hard work each day in the face of great volume and challenging tasks they are a dedicated and great team really and deserve this recognition as stewards of the county planned future so I thank you very much on behalf thank you we appreciate everything each of you do and um look forward to a lot of great things in the future so if you will we can go down and have a picture with them and present the resolution okay yeah they'll come up in front thanks for everything app oh yeah let us move this way a little bit then we there you go [Music] thank you everybody thank all right resolution two is Gina yans here and did I pronounce the last name correctly you man's that's you man's thank you okay much yes mik resolution number 20-4 resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pascal County Florida congratulating Gina yans on her recognition as the first Florida sheriff's Association civilian of the year and expressing gratitude for her work as a victim Advocate whereas Gina yans has worked for the Pasco County Sheriff's Office for 28 years she joined the victim Advocates unit in 2005 and was promoted to victim advocates supervisor in 2015 and whereas the Pasco County Sheriff's Office victim Advocates unit Works closely with Crime Victims and family members to provide them with everything from emotional support help finding help filling out paperwork explaining things to them and even accompanying them to court when necessary an Ras Gina humans supervises the six member unit along with internal and interns and volunteers with work that work with victims and family members in cases such as homicide suicide sexual assault domestic violence robbery burglary and crimes against the elderly an Raz throughout her years of service Gina y has been passionate

empathetic and consistent in her hard work for the citizens of Pasco County and has received both Statewide and local recognition for her efforts as a victim Advocate and resz Gina yans has was recognized with the inaugural Florida sheriff's Association civilian of the Year award in July of 2019 an award created to recognize exemplary service above self by a civilian employee in one of the 67 Sharon Sheriff's offices in Florida she was nominated by her peers in the Sheriff's Office Command Staff now therefore be it resolved by the board of County commissioners of Pascal County Florida that said board hereby congratulates Gina yans on her recognition as the first Florida sheriff's Association civilian of the year and expresses gratitude for her work as a victim Advocate done and resolved in regular session with the quum president and voting this 22nd day of October 2019 second got a motion second all those fa say I I I motion passed welcome thank you Mr Moore thank you Mr chairman so Gina you know this board wanted to recognize you for all the great work you you've done but also recognize you for winning the awards so I I know your job can't be easy and um it takes in your in your team too so it it just takes somebody with a good heart and and dedication to wanting to help others to to do what you do every day my my wife's a nurse and she actually is on the crisis team for the school system so um I hear some of the things that you know her and her team have to go through at times too and um but you know without you and your team you know let's just be honest I mean people wouldn't have that support and it's so important important important work that you're doing so we appreciate you every each and every one of us and we appreciate also appreciate your team so congratulations on your award um you know we we love Awards in Pascal County so it's uh very uh very commendable of all the great things you're doing so thank you thank you as well um thank you commissioner Moore for sponsoring and to the County commission for approval of that um I'm very humbled and appreciative of this um I'm very thankful to sheriff Nako and the Command Staff for their support of our unit and what it does and um to all the mentors I've had before and um I'd like to say a special thanks to the victims of Pasco County who have made me what I am today and also my team and to my lovely passionate amazing team I am thankful to them too thank you very much before we go down M humans if maybe talk a little bit about what you and your team do on a daily basis because um I understand what you do but I think it's great for the public to re to recognize and understand what you do absolutely so we are on call 24/7 and we um respond to all types of crime crimes as mentioned homicides and suicides and um sexual assaults of children adults and where we provide Christ intervention at the scene and then if it's a criminal case where there's an arrest me we provide support throughout the entire process until the end and Beyond um and

throughout assessing the needs of the victims and their families we also uh review police reports and and our I think last year we we we took care of about 3,800 cases 3,800 victims um minimum that um especially domestic violence as well we we assess their needs we make contact with them and kind of informational resources referrals and and a good L on between law enforcement and the courts so you know people that unfortunately fall prey to victimization especially for the first time they they don't know what happens and we're always there chapter 960 of Florida statute did dictates that we go wherever they go and and whatever they need by law that's what we do so up uphold the rights of victims constantly so beautiful case manager mental health counselor cry on all in one right yes and plus we we also make sure our members are taking care of too um for the hard calls you know it's interesting they they they when the patrol or detectives use us the victim Advocate show up and they're like oh the world is great you know but they don't need anything they're good they have they have one another but you know we we make sure we check on them you know after especially heinous crimes or or difficult calls especially with children so thank you thank you so much so if we can go down as as you know the D and we will present this to you and thank [Music] you all these faces went Halloween theen dressed leave bag on Kathy PE we actually provided multiple res so we'll take that are you the husband thank you so thank you my support staff first line want figure yeah you want to move this out of the way [Music] it'll be short it's like 20 30 slides in it it's huge okay thank you so much thank you congratulations take care have a great thank you thanks everybody thank [Music] you where go where everybody went you can get back here oh yes all right now time for Res three okay is anyone here for friends of the libraries you can book on all of them okay no those anyone El who is that will is that yours wills it is yeah Okay resolution sorry resolution number 20- 005 a resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida proclaiming the week of October 20th through October 26th 2019 as friend Friends of the libraries week in Pasco

County whereas the friends of Pasco County Library System Inc is a not for-profit organization of citizens who share a passionate commitment to a strong Public Library System the seven Branch specific friends groups along with the countywide friends strive to build a strong relationship between the Pasco County library system and the community Through volunteering fundraising and advocacy and whereas the continued support of the friends emphasizes the fact that our library system remains a Cornerstone of the community it serves while providing opportunities for all the engaged in the joy of lifelong learning and to connect with the thoughts and ideas of others from ages past to present and whereas the friends are dedicated volunteers who donate their time for the benefit of the libraries and residents throughout the county the friends understand that well-funded libraries ensure that our library system receives the resources it needs to succeed and grow with the demand demands of an evolving population the friends make programs such as Story Time summer reading Arts culture and Technology programs possible an Raz Ros Fenton president of the friends of Pasco County Library System Inc along with all the friends work tirelessly to show their support for the library system and are vital members of our community the friends spent time advocating on behalf of the library system to help get the government obligation Bond approved and continue to avocate throughout the Pasco library's reimagined remodeling process through donations the friends are able to provide cultural and musical events at each of the library branches the friends continue to support the library system and the communities served by the P by the library system and whereas the friends of Pasco County Library System Inc are always welcome always welcoming new members those to those wishing to become a friend of the library may contact their local branch to learn more now therefore be it resolved by the board of County commissioners of Pascal County Florida that said board hereby proclaims October 20th through October 26th 2019 as friends of the library week in Pasco County and urges everyone to join the friends of the library and thank them for all they do to make our library and community so much better D and resolved in regular session with the cor president voting this 22nd day of October 2019 move for approval second got a motion second all those in favor say I I all opposed like sign motion passed Mr Wells good morning morning excited to be here um you know it's thank you again for the referendum I think that was it's going to be huge for us and you know we're all proud to sit up here and and talk about how we work together to restore the the hours for for the different programs that you all do quite frankly for our youth so they can stay out of trouble when they're out of school not when the library is closed when I first got elected so it's it's neat to see us come so far and and thank you for everything you all do to to help us and the entire Library team and and I

know Comm Moore talked about it a minute ago with the other group but it's you know folks don't understand exactly what you do and you do so much I'm kind of behind the scenes if you will um with the different programs for not only the youth but seniors and so forth so thank you very much Mr chairman yes of course yeah thank you um I I want to say friends of Library you guys are just absolutely awesome um you know years ago when we had the economy drop out and Friends of Library came to the east Pascal campus talking about libraries how important they were ET and finding out that it wasn't a done deal but it it didn't look good for Centennial library and you we are reaching out to the community and grabbing over I think 3400 signatures to say look we want to preserve all the libraries we'll sacrifice ours if we have to to try to make this work and we struck a compromise uh so what you did kept that Library which is still so vital to that area uh was a great accomplishment and I just want to thank the board for putting those Library hours back in because it's such a vital part of this community that when we could do it we did it and I want to thank all my board members for for making that happen as well but again your leadership and your commitment to this was phenomenal yeah we certainly all appreciate everything you do people don't realize what a difference you make in the citizens of Pasco County their lives in library systems if you look at the schedule that y'all carry in each and every library and different projects you got going on and programs you're teaching it's not just children it's Mom and Dad and and Families so you're making a difference in Pasco County all over our County every day and we appreciate that okay like to say a few words real quick yes we appreciate one of you one of you because you're volunteers you know they're not getting paid to do what they do they do it because they love it and they have a passion for it and I've had conversations with so many of them but so many amazing programs going on and I'm a as you know I'm a big fan of the libraries and spend a lot of time with the New River and then the one and call your Parkway too and in the amount of programs like you mentioned that they have you know the maker space and and um multiple other programs I when I was a kid um I would ride my bike especially when I was in Middle School to to the library spent a lot of time there it was just a great fun place to go and it was a safe place too right and uh that's important too is reminding the children that they do have a safe place that they can go and um in participate in these programs um so thank you all appreciate it you and take a picture we appreciate your kind words um Raz Fenton president of the Pasco uh County Library System friends would have been here she's unable to be so I'm here on her behalf um I'm no La Branch President of the Hudson Library friends I'm also speaking for the individual Friends of the seven

different libraries because we all uh work individually as well as together Pasco is fortunate in having a lot of Library supporters and friends and we thank the County Commission as friends and supporters uh especially appreciating uh the fact that the Monday hours were restored now for all the libraries um as you know the friends of the libraries provide funding for a wide range of programs and events for all ages examples ranging from countywide concert series very very successful a Woodworking Shop a recording studio a new Test Kitchen lessons in language ukulele and yoga there's quite a range uh social Gatherings reading enhancement programs the list goes on providing a full calendar of opportunities and possibilities for the community and the Pasco County Library systems online services uh deliver exceptional information and resources to to serve professional educational cultural and entertainment purposes and if you haven't done so I hope that every one of you will go online and uh to the Pasco County Pasco libraries.org excuse me and discover all the opportunities there finally pasco's Library friends have reached out into the community and partnered with the County school system with Florida Orchestra with the supervisor of elections with the Sun Coast Richie theater and Richie Sun Coast Community Orchestra and other organizations uh to bring Innovative cultural and artistic programming to the C to the community as a whole for free the friends work closely with the library Administration and its staff in supporting and building the relationship between the libraries and the communities they serve and that's the key theme isn't it community and libraries thank you so much very thank Youk you we're going come down and have a picture you still use [Music] that reproduction of gutenberg's press thank you everybody I have a cold I don't want to share oh oh that kind of pin okay you're on the side oh you got to talk hey gentlemen you're going to block Nikki so go so concerning you you're like 9 ft tall down there it looks like go right back where we were like taco fall down here some people understand that reference but don't UCF Celtics at least do he's there to take take care of things were kid to leave through remember your mics are live by the [Applause] way you're too young you're five you said you just want to read the articles or anything man so lonely that's so bad Bob we're listening to y'all everybody's listening to

you now so that everybody knows we do have a Time certain r r two but we can't have the time certain till we finish consent that's right and we have um RS4 to do now and then we have RS5 I believe also okay is Will Jim herock please come to the podium resolution number 20 d007 a resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida commending James L herock for 11 years of dedicated of 11 years of dedication to Pasco County and congratulating him on his retirement whereas James L herock Jim has served Pasco County utilities and the public infrastructure brand with integrity and professionalism as the Environmental Compliance specialist and RZ Jim began his employment with the Pasco County on November 10th 2008 in the role of Environmental Compliance specialist for the utilities Services Branch now called public infrastructure Branch andrz Jim maintained a wonderful working relationship with various Regulatory Agencies and was instrumental and managing in and closing consent orders and whereas some of his notable accomplishments include reinforcing the development of the safety culture he was the original member of the Pascal County Hazmat team and he established an efficient Environmental Compliance reporting process and whereas during his tenure Jim served as the branches liaison with emergency management management and he worked tirelessly with other departments and the public during storms and other emergency events that impacted Pasco County an RZ on October 31st 2019 Jim will officially retire from Pascal County and will be dearly missed by his co-workers and the citizens he served now therefore be it resolved by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby commends James herock for 11 years of dedicated service to the citizens of Pasco County congratulates him on his retirement and wishes him well in his future endeavors dner resolved in regular session with a core present and voting this 22nd day of October 2019 move approval second got a motion second all those in favor say I I I motion passed welcome thank you Jim congratulations on your 11 years I know since you've been here we as starting the storm water utility we've seen a lot of things change you've been a big part of uh a lot of activity it's really helped this County get through a lot of storm water stuff and infrastructure improvements across the board so greatly appreciate your service every step of the way would you like to say a couple of words thank you it's kind of ironic that I've had two great jobs in my life uh both of them you know with 11 years each military and of course Pascal and I couldn't have couldn't have made it through any of this without this group behind me and the field workers out in the field that work every day you know to help the county and as you can see the key reason these people are behind

me is to see that I actually am retired they can't believe it well they've been counting down I haven't was that because they wanted you to go or there's no doubt they want me gone oh yeah but uh again I I appreciate uh working with them they they're a great group to work with uh your leadership is and the utilities factor and that is is great so uh I can see the county moving forward with this group so yeah thank you well thank you very much we certainly appreciate everything you've done for us while you've been here and thank you course we appreciate your workers behind you too so it's great thank all right go down yeah [Music] I don't know if I do [Laughter] don't over lunch over lunch I don't have any now we're ready for RS5 okay is anyone here for World polio day please come to the podium Okay resolution number 20-6 a resolution by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida proclaiming October 24th 2019 as World polio day in Pasco County whereas the Rotary Club of Hudson and fellow rotarian rotary clubs of Pasco County are part of a Global Network of 1.2 million neighbors friends leaders and problem solvers who unite and take action to create lasting change in communities across the globe andras the rotary motto service above self inspires members to provide humanitarian service follow High ethical standards and promote Goodwill and peace in the world andraz in 1985 rotary launched polio plus and in 1988 helped establish the global polio eradication initiative which today includes the World Health Organization us Centers for Disease Control and prevention UNICEF and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to immun immunize the children children of the world against polio and whereas polio cases have dropped 99.9% since 1988 and the world stands on the threshold of eradicating the disease andas to date rotary has contributed more than 1.9 billion and countless volunteer hours to protecting more than 2.5 billion children in 122 countries and Ras rotary is working to raise an additional 50 million per year which would be which would be leveraged for Maximum Impact by an additional 1 million of annually from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and whereas these efforts are providing much needed Operational Support medical staff laboratory equipment and educational materials for health workers and parents and Ras in addition rary has played a major role in Decisions by donor governments to contribute more than 8 billion in to the effort and whereas there are over 4 20 rotary members and more than and more than seven clubs throughout Pasco County that sponsor service projects to address such

critical issues as poverty disease hunger literacy and the environment in their local communities and aboard and abroad now therefore be it resolved by the board of County commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby proclaims October 24th 2019 as World polio day in Pasco County and encourages all citizens to join us and Rotary International in the fight for a polio free work done and resolved in regular session with the cor president and voting this 22nd day of October 2019 move approval got a motion and second all those in favor say I I oppos like sign motion passed welcome thank you thank you thank you well thank you jemth uh for coming forward um rotary is such a special group and eradicating polio is such a great cause would you like to talk a little bit more about it thank you thank you um chairman and thank you commissioner Mariano and the rest of the commissioner here for acknowledging October 24 as um world polio day on behalf of 1.2 million rotarians around the world I'm very excited to be here today to receive this uh wonderful Proclamation and to also invite you to a very special luncheon that we have planned for this coming Thursday at our ra musunuru enrichment cental in Hudson with Dr Ra musunuru talking about polio and we are very proud as rotarian and I believe that many of you are rotarian here in the room today um that along with Melinda and bgat we have been able to almost eradicate the disease there is no need for this disease to take more lives of small children around the world and today um it is only 24 cases in Pakistan and Afghanistan in those two countries it is that we have to finish the work that we started and we as soon as we eradicate this disease we're going to move to the next one which it is the Alzheimer's disease so on behalf of the many rotarians uh around the world on behalf of the rotary rotary clubs here in Pasco County we all do so much that I can be talking all day long and and hungry I need to go to lunch so and I know that everybody here needs to do that so thank you very much and for those of you that know me you know that I have to end with the joke and that was my joke today so thank you thank you and keep helping us eradicate that crippling uh disease okay you thank you thank [Applause] you hey how are you are [Music] that's [Music] awesome do we go are you see know that's a big guys you're in the right place you see um that's fine I'll stand here this is good that work move over the GQ lean going we're good somebody must be short what do you mean I don't know she get up and [Music] down I'm on a diet diet here it's liquid

liquid um okay we have a a special guest that's going to come forward right now Mr Mike Fano our tax collector come forward we're happy to see you good morning morning members Mike Fano tax collector I won't be but a few minutes uh I'm here to bring you a check uh U we were successful in building or renovating I I apologize our Gulf Harbor's office on 19 you have an opportunity to come and visit it is a second to none uh in the state and uh uh our customers love it I know you will please stop by and take a look um we had budgeted $2.2 million we uh we were under budget on that and I'm thankful to my staff who did a wonderful job so I have a check for you today of 1, 12825 if I can present that to the clerk U and sign my receipt if you would I'd rather I'd rather uh I'd rather you otherwise my finance director will kill me I'd rather you give it to me but that's okay you can give it to the cour after looking at your disclosure you don't need it Mr chairman that's not true so if I can do that and and I'll be on my way thank you very much God bless Mr chairman yes sir Senator Fano yes sir thank you so much oh thank you uh you're doing always a fantastic job when when my daughter Amber was down getting the her license the other day uh sen F was there checking people in it was it was a pretty good thing um I was I was in Wesley chap myself and I walked up the counter and he's wa right there yeah um pretty interesting and I I kind of want to just take this out just from an email Center that you that you sent about the PACE program I don't know if you want to come into that a little bit I think it's a very serious issue that we going to talk later on committee reports yes um and um I'd like to come back one day and and chat with you I want to thank commissioner for uh taking a lead as well uh on this issue uh let me give you a quick one handed to me today was a uh from our cons cons consumer Advocate Samantha who's done a wonderful job on following these Pace uh loans and we had somebody that that got a um uh a solar system $61,000 $61,000 for a Solar System 25 years they will eventually pay over 20 after 25 years for that solar system $141,000 now anyone shows me that they're going to save any money in electricity over those years $141,000 for a solar system after paying the interest in 25 years so I know why green is coming and talk to you I know Michael kran has come and talked to you uh but I'll be there as well and I want to thank for at least listening and knowing that there's some issues out there and maybe wanting to address them uh sooner than later okay Mr obviously because of sunshine and we hav had this conversation yet that's correct but um we have a draft ordinance we're working on together with along with Tim and Andy um and we'll have that'll come to us but we need to work through it first it has to go to

the county attorney's office um and then we will bring it to this board so we're work on it now we I think we got it to you on Monday yesterday yes sir got to us on Friday right right yeah okay so we you guys have been great Commissioners as I mentioned before we're working on it we just needed to wait for that to come through sure but I just want to thank everybody God bless you all have a wonderful day thank you yes [Music] sir as I said before I have a Time certain at 11:30 and if you'll notice the clock's way past that but it cannot happen until after we finished the consent section of our meeting and we're going to start that now the following items on consent I have pulled or C11 uh Revis c23 withdrawal c33 withdraw c28 pull and revise c29 pull and revise c24 pull and Revis or discuss excuse me okay what what's the pleasure of the vard on the consent second got a motion second on the remaining items on on consent all those in favor say I I I all oppos like sign motion passed C11 good morning David Engel office of economic growth before you today is a Cooperative funding agreement for the economic incentives for two class A Office Buildings the revision before you is a updated file number on the promisory Note okay got a motion move for appr second okay I got a motion on second all those in favor say I I okay thank you motion pass thank you c23 is withdrawn c33 withdrawn c28 c28 Mike cook sir Pasco County surveying and mapping uh pull and revise the memo to add performance guarantee behind it R second got a motion second all those in favor say I I motion pass c29 c29 pull and revise Joiner and consent was provided to us at the last minute the one that was inire was incorrect so now we're Chewing It Up move for approval as revised second I got a motion and second all those in favor say I I motion passed c24 pull and discuss it's mine it's yours yes sir okay Mr Moore thank you um so I just had a few questions and I don't I know Mr biles isn't here I don't know Mike if you'll be able to answer this question or somebody from the team maybe Bob I don't know so I'm looking at them what we're spitting on fact this year which is $745 can somebody explain to me what a one-time fee for the assessment of public awareness fund at a cost of $247 15 that we're making to fact anybody do you know Comm Mr chairman I think that could be the fund where uh last year when we had the state looking to um push as far as a uh extra exemption or I can't remember exactly what happened but push I'm sorry what I think there was a trying to think of what the resolution was or the amendment was going to be on the ballot was to kind of

like hurt the County's sales tax uh property tax revenues does staff have an answer for well so I was you know I talked very briefly with the County Administrator this morning on this item and and like a lot of things that you pay into these things take time to bear fruit I can't speak specifically to that line item commissioner but I will say that uh you know fac continues to you know work and represent counties fending off legislation that do uh that that could threaten home rule um as well as uh championing right now currently in the upcoming session public records exemptions so it's kind of one of those things that we're we're a part of that helps uh Advance the agendas of counties uh at the at the state level I'd like to ask if we get the right answer for us and and let all of us know can I thank you Mr chairman um how many counties are members of fact at this time do we know I think they have all 67 67 I don't know what the average do we know what hillsb is paying do we know what pelis is paying are they paying more than us for being larger counties yeah population based it is population based I heard last year they were lowering one of the possibly one of the counties was being lowered whatever reason they well they did shifting with with the census so they did get adjustment um if I could suggest if you want we can bring fact down here and they can go through what the program was and what what they're doing for us we we're it's on to be it's on the agenda to be approved today do we have to pay this by next week or can this be tabled and continue till next meeting hi Stacy Ziggler purchasing director um the invoice was for November the 1st the money that you're talking about the public awareness fund you can pay it in two installments so or you could have paid it in three installments so you don't have to pay the full amount up front we just assumed you'd want to go ahead and pay the full amount of it in one in one price I mean we could table it till the next one but it is for November the 1st so I this just a concern I mean we're already paying $50,000 a year if there's 67 counties if I I can probably do that in my head but 50,000 time 60 would be $3 million right and then 7 * 5 is another 350 so 3 3 3, 350,000 possibly let's just I'm using it as an average if every County paid 50 but there's a lot of larger counties that is going going to fat that's a lot of money is additional assessment f 24 an additional assessment yeah so the memo that came from fa August 23rd 2019 says in addition this invoice includes an amount for the public awareness Reserve fund special assessment which was approved by the board in November 2018 and that's the board of fac this assessment is population based and can be paid in up to three annual installments the public awareness Reserve fund was originally created in 2006 and provides a dedicated funding source for Statewide awareness

and education issues allowing the association to effectively respond to Major initiatives facing counties that was the memo that came with it if that answers anything listen I I just we have a little bit issue and we don't actually know where it's going and what it's going towards and I'm sorry let me continue real quick um you know we've had this discussion about lobbyist and things we have an internal lobbyist that we decided to hire and now we're obviously in addition paying them the lobby now we're paying this extra fee on top of what we normally pay of $50,000 a year I mean I and I appreciate I know a lot of Commissioners are involved I don't get involved with the fact that just because I I think we have enough that are involved already and I appreciate that I appreciate your involvement I guess I assume that we we approve this in November of 2018 is that correct yeah as a member of of fact the county yes would have been involved and they would have approved it yes but we don't necessarily have to pay in in full ter we can pay over three years yes you can do installments for that fee you can pay I think it's 8,000 something a little for three years if you'd prefer to pay it in installments yeah so what's what's the priv Mr chairman if yes sir since it is due November 1st and your next meeting is after November 1 uh perhaps we can bring this back this afternoon and have staff Call fac and see if they can get a better a better breakdown of that thank you Mr makes sense won appreciate it our meting well you can you can bring this item back before you close for the day if the information is is present I appreciate thank you for that all right thank you so that concludes um the consent items so we need to go to R2 Mr chairman if I may can I because there were additions and deletions to your regular agenda for this meeting can I get you to move the emergency for all the regular [Music] items second okay got a motion in second all those in favor say I I motion pass thank you Justin Grant Public infrastructure fiscal and business administration uh I'll take a note from uh the woman presenting the polio deal and I know everyone's hungry so I'll try and be brief and to the point we're here to do a supplemental resolution Sol olution adopting the instruments of water sewer refunding Revenue bond for series 2019 not to exceed 121 million on June 27th 2019 RFP ca-1 19171 was solicited for a tax exempt fixed rate Term Loan at the lowest overall borrowing costs for not to exceed amount of 121 million RFP committee and purchasing recommended Bank of America ma the purpose of this loan is to refund all of the County's outstanding 2006 bonds 2009a bonds and 2009 B bonds also known as the build America bonds refunding will result in a npv savings of $2.9 million over the instrument's life the recommended action here is to approve the award and agreement for this RFP to Bank of America na we need to

approve the supplemental resolution adopting the issuance authorize payment to the financial team for cost of issuance authorize the chairman to ex execute the 2019 Bond escrow agreement Bond register and paying agent agreement with the supplemental resolution at pre-closing which will occur today after this meeting at the break and authorize the assistant County Administrator for public infrastructure to execute on behalf of the County Administrator various certificates at the pre-closing that are required by the lender to be relied upon by Bond Council this transaction has been reviewed by pfm our financial advisor and uh our bond counsel is recommended Mr chairman one thing to Justin's presentation so early as one of the reasons that you had to deal with the consent agenda is item c37 on your consent agenda was amending and restating the master resolution that this resolution is part answer yeah okay M Mr chairman Mr Mo I assume the county attorney's office is comfortable with yes oh yeah I move for approval second got a motion second all those in favor say I I all opposed like sign motion passed thank you Mr chairman can we if nobody has does anybody have any place to be it you do I do I I told them I want to be 10 minutes L can we get one of knock one of these out in 10 minutes one of what well we got people that are going to have to come back in the afternoon can you knock that out in 10 minutes yeah you give that Mr chairman that way which which one is that now R1 R1 all right we'll do R1 but then we're going to break for lunch all right thank you Commissioners uh I'm hungry as well too and I will be liy split so uh in the interest of time since you all have uh both my presentations and the quarterly reports on behalf of the Pasco EDC for quarter 4 of 2019 fiscal year I will jump ahead to the um update portion of the mou uh our agreement and then also the summary portion of our penny for Pasco contract and then leave a couple minutes for for for Q&A um before I do that I just mentioned pipeline is full in terms of project activity we're still doing well majority of it is in manufacturing and this past year we had a total of 12 wins of projects that located or expanded here in Pasco County lot more coming I've talked to most of you individually about some of them in the pipeline and I know CT is here he'll probably want to ask me about some of those projects coming up so I always kind of plant that seed for him um so skipping ahead to the uh uh to the updates as it relates to theou I'll share with you that the um uh our strategic plan we're in the midst of our uh next three-year uh strategic plan you remember the first one was from uh the year 16 to 19 we're finishing that up it was called the wind strategy we've completed about 99% of all of that activity uh right now we've got a group that is working working just had a retreat on a next three-year Plan called wi 2.0 and we'll be revealing that on

December 4th I'll bring that back to you as well too uh we've got an economic forecast lunch in on uh the 20th of January we're bringing an economist and we're still doing our quarterly Brown Bag lunches our lunch and learns for the general public to learn about what type of programs we offer to uh to our companies and individuals here as it relates to the penny for Pasco uh our ready sites and you all saw last time I brought you the video that we did for marketing uh for the Zephyr Hills airport ready site we've now completed uh those same types of videos for each of the four that have already been SE or evaluated and we've got a fifth site that we've just evaluated we'll be doing the same thing to Market that and then uh two more sites being assessed so three years ago we didn't have any sites that we could point to a uh uh for for a company to say this is where we want you to locate now we have four that we out there actively marketing we've got a fifth one that we're preparing the marketing on and two more in Q this is all about making sure we've got the right soil conditions for growth in our our community the international program over the last quarter we had uh a foreign direct investment Mission with our our partners at Global Tampa Bay that's the 3count Consortium uh with Hillsboro and pelis County uh you know that it's been in the news lately we've talked about the uh EDC the Tampa Bay EDC and the potential name change uh I just want to remind everyone we are still working together with those Three Counties as they're going through this Tampa Bay is a great brand we need to protect the brand throughout this process uh I hope that we still do things together but that brand belongs to everybody not just Hillsboro County thanks and the trade Mission uh was to Brazil uh I can share with you Adams Arms from from Pasco was with us on that mission met with several military and police um departments they about buying as they're changing their laws in Brazil uh related to to gun ownership enhanced marketing I mentioned the ready sites and the maps uh are completed the video is completed if you haven't seen our website lately go see it it's going to knock your socks off um it's got a lot of active content in it very easy to get around I think it's something that is award worthy uh in our industry this next year speaking of which we just won an award for one of our uh industry snapshot pieces so we did snapshots on our six targeted Industries in the international Economic Development Council just last week gave us a Gold Award for that for communities over 500,000 uh population so that is a great recognition from our peers and our industry means we're on the right track and that our staff is doing the right thing Smart Start you all were part of the uh uh kitchen incubator opening I know commissioner Oakley chair chairman Oakley was there as we uh we cut the ribbon and uh I just want to again reinforce our appreciation to a local company wellb built who donated a lot of that equipment to make that happen uh

that incubator for Smart Start is uh solely focused on food entrepreneurship and working together with the county and um University of Florida's egg extension program we now have eight facilitators for co-starters uh that's the the curriculum to help companies start up and we can offer those courses throughout the county we like to do those at our incubator but if you've got a site where you've got a handful of companies that want to take the course we can make that happen and then uh lastly our our Pasco pipeline will be rebranded and launched uh later later in November in this first quarter and it'll be now called Pasco Workforce connect you'll be seeing more about that we had our our two Pasco 50 events uh over the summer in this last quarter highly successful getting lots of great feedback from the companies and a lot of interaction with the HR professionals uh identifying exactly what's needed uh by them so that we can make sure our Workforce is in alignment with our company needs so with that I'll stop and if you have any questions and again you have the full presentations in your packets sure Mr Mor quick quick comment just going back to what you stated previously and you don't have to respond at all um but it is frustrating that the Tampa Hillsboro Tampa Hillsboro EDC did what they did with that name change and it is a reminder that you know we all yes we want to work together but it causes too much confusion in the marketplace absolutely by far yes um who's to say that Pasco couldn't change her name to the West Florida Economic Development Council or the Florida Economic Development Council yeah we'd have every right to do that but that would cause confusion in the market place and it's my understanding that the city of Tampa is not too thrilled about the name change either either I don't think yeah if if you look at the minutes from uh from their meeting last week you'll see that they actually sent a u request from the chair uh voted on unanimously from the city to the Tampa EDC requesting them to reconsider their their name charge so my opinion they did it to try to get an upper hand on the other counties let's just be honest oh yeah there's no denying it that's what they did so hopefully they'll listen to their city leaders that also fund their EDC and make a good decision yeah so well they did that because we're doing such a great job here in Pasco County well I think it has a lot to do with it actually oh yeah that's exactly has a lot to do with it I I think it is important to mention yeah we do have we we have the assets we have the land we have the strong political leadership that's Pro business we have the incentives uh we've got a lot of good reason to want to be included in that but again that name Tampa Bay doesn't belong to just any one of us it belongs to all of us and that's a that's a regional asset doesn't mean we have to we're not there's no rules that say we we can't go in there and start swiping stuff so if

construction plans section 4 3.10 landscape plans adding new section section 46.8 Garden plan permit section 522.com master plan unit development District section 527 C3 commercial light manufacturing District section 530 Community Gardens Market Gardens and Community Farms section 603 conect connected City stewardship District section 700 subdivision and planning standards section 91.4 substandard roadway analysis and mitigation section 9016 Street design and dedication section 91.9 Street naming and addressing section 92.2 storm water management requirements section 95.2 landscaping and buffering appendix a definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer providing for severability and inclusion into Land Development code and an effective date okay we have a signup sheet no one signed up on the signup sheet no no one so having no one sign up is there anyone at the audience would like to speak to this item second got a motion and second all those in favor say I roll call vote roll call vote all right District Two commissioner Moore District three commissioner starky hi District Four commissioner Wells hi District Five commissioner Mariano hi district one chairman Oakley I motion pass thank you now we move on to P2 P2 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on September 6 2019 good afternoon Amy higher with Planning and Development item P2 is the adoption hearing for a smallscale comprehensive plan mment in the name of Landa Lakes commercial C pass 1905 I will read the ordinance into record um an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a smallscale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map map 2-5 and Sheet 20 uh changing from res 3 residential 3 dwelling units per gross acre to Comm commercial on approximately 6.2 Acres of real property located at the northwest corner of land Lakes Boulevard and and wst area Loop providing for uh repealer severability and effective date so the subject property is located in the Central Market area at the corner of Lando Lakes Boulevard and westeria loop um the proposed amendment is uh going from res 3 to Comm to address a conflicting zoning and allow for commercial uses and this is the located map for the future land use Amendment and it is consistent with policy flu 1.5 5.2 and objective flu 1.6 non-residential development and with that we recommend the board of County Commissioners find the proposed amendment consistent and adopt by rule call vote if you have any questions I'm happy to help question anyone a question yeah um do we know what's going in there is there anything been proposed uh for now it's uh just commercial development there was

discussion of a self storage but as of now it's just commercial development hm now you got me wanting to change my mind on this one okay the applicant is here if you'd like to yeah I'd love to hear from the applicant that's going to tell me he's not going to do on 41 where I need a lot better things and than Self Storage un good afternoon David Bell uh 85 pal River Road Tampa Florida um right now I am working for uh a property owner that owns the center there's three part Parcels that make up this application uh the North Parcel is already a retail office building that is fully developed the southern parcel is a permitted office building with future out parcel in the rear my client has considered uh Self Storage but nothing is certain at this time but that is one of the items that is under discussion we put a um well go ahead in there question I got a thought okay I'm not sure who what kind of staff you're meeting with when you're going through this but was any discussion given about the orange belt Trail that's coming up proposed to come up right near there no I've not U been given any information about the orange Bel Trail commission nario Pito Planning and Development um the orange belt Trail discussion wouldn't take place at the comprehensive plan level as we're simply looking at the zoning and the uh land use consistency at this point okay but I think I think people should know if they own the property that there's a proposed major Trail going and that's why we have to hurry up and get that route study done so uh Amy higher I have put it in the actual agenda that there is a trail that AB buts that property okay um it looks like it is a 2.66 mile long trail along Lando Lakes in the name of US 41 Trail extending from Connerton Boulevard to Tower Road that's what's identified on the County's Greenway map the orange belt Trail starts in Trinity and it ends north of date City okay it goes along Tower and and it follows the old railroad line Corridor so I just wanted to be known that there's a very important Trail in the county coming right right along there which is should be an asset to your property actually but you just have to take that in mind as you start looking at the uses understood Mr chair yes sir thank you staff I want to move forward because I want to see Redevelopment in that area but I don't want to see Redevelopment as in storage facilities on Atlanta Lakes Boulevard of 41 there's you know that's really doesn't fit the vision for that portion of that area I think we would agree and our team would agree that's not the vision we have and the community has for that for that area um you probably know that we actually purchased a a parcel you know through parks next to our um let me out here I reunity park yeah

so um for the parking her Heritage uh what did we change it to again Heritage Park thank you Heritage Park um at one time that was even slated possibly there people were looking at that possibly to be a um storage facility um thankfully the owners of that property wanted you know saw there was better use for the county and for the citizens to sell it to us at a I think a rate much lower than they were probably looking at getting at one time right I mean you know that's kind of worked I mean I don't want to see a stor facility there I've been very vocal about that yeah and and so you want to put a deed restriction on it I cannot answer that at this time I don't think my I'll say continue or I or I deny um I will say that I've I've met with um staff and I've seen some of the designs they have for different places and there there is the possibility to have a storage unit in the back I know I worked on that yeah and then retail and office in the front we we can but that's not we can't have that discussion now because they don't know what they're going forward with but the discussion you did state that that is something they're looking at so I'd also like i' love to meet with you and sit down and meet with you your team I'm happy to do it so I I'll make a motion to continue sure and second Mr chairman if I still you still have public hearing and I and I will need the motion amended to provide for a date and time or they're going to have to read vertise um month I mean it can happen on either side because it's Central me could happen I don't know this motion before I have a do finish up your public hearing okay then then we'll come back to the motion we'll come back to the motion okay this is a public hearing I do not have anyone signed up to speak is there anyone in audience wish to speak to this item seeing no one um time and date certain but I don't know what that date is if somebody from the staff can tell me when Theiss Mr chairman November 5th is the next BCC yeah it can either be November 5th or November 19th 19 I don't think the fifth is be conducive to us setting up a meeting but happy to meet with you guys I just I want to have that conversation about which state's best date to make sure you don't have to re advertise November 19th uh November 19th no it would be a continuance to November 19th at 1:30 p.m. or as soon thereafter here in Newport Richie thank you that's motion with a second I got a motion and a second all those in favor say I I I I relu sign okay all right it be continued to November 19th I'm okay when they have the stores and the off uh we're going now to P4 P3 has been moved to p13 so we're on P4 P4 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on September 27th 2019 good afternoon Commissioners Alexander laort with Planning and Development um we're here to do two um

pieces of this first two vote for a two- we extension of the temporary moratorium from 120 days to 134 days to allow for the continuance of the first hearing of the self- storage design standards ordinance to take place November 5th 2019 at uh Dade City at 1:30 p.m. and then subsequently to hold the second public hearing and the adoption um hearing at November 19 um Board of County Commissioners hearing at 1:30 in Newport Richie okay so yeah take public comment because you have a you have an action item okay uh I don't have anyone signed up for this item is anyone in the audience wish to see speak to P4 see no one so move move continue move just move staff recommendation please okay second staff I got a motion and I second second all those in favor say I I motion passed for the extension of the moratorium and then we will then continue um the first hearing of this item for the standards I had the move staff recommendation rather than trying to do it individ as individual parts that would your recommended motion was for both those items okay Mr chairman yes and I think you know we're continuing this on I mean in this you know story Self Storage was just talked about we really got to get that figured out before we approve any more Self Storage I mean makes sense wouldn't it so something else to consider yeah yes okay P5 P5 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 16th 2019 and August 23rd 2019 sorry the continuance item I just don't have the continuance date so hopefully we'll get it from the audience item P5 is fac 20-18 it's a petition to vacate rideway Long Lake Reserve Community Development district and Mi homes of Tampa LLC Leonard Road and it's a continuance request you and it is to the November 19th 2019 uh public hearing Board of County Commissioners 1:30 p.m. in Newport Richie thank you this is a public hearing is anyone here I have no one signed up anyone here to speak to P5 see you no one move to continue time certain oh we need a motion got a motion and a second all those in favor say I I motion passed any of we would please move on to P1 because that's a continuance item as well we can thank you item P1 published in the Tampa Bay Times September 27th 2019 oh sorry published in Tampa Bay Times October 2nd 2019 item P11 is PDD 20 00006 this is a development of regional impact Amendment to the development order and this is a request to continue to November 5th 2019 at 1:30 in Dade City move continue certain and this was advertised as an approval if there's anybody in the audience who wishes to speak to this item M move to continue type certain staff recommend see one all right got a motion a second all those in favor I I all right motion pass move back to P6 and if you want

to there are two resoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal anyone any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning May at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are Quasi judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's Land Development code Madam clerk would you like to swear them in Madam clerk yes if you're here to speak on any of the of the items to come to the board on public hearing please stand and raise your right hand to be sworn in sorry that okay do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God thank you okay so item P6 uh publication it was published item P6 was published in the Tampa Bay Times September 27th 2019 good afternoon Commissioners Denise Hernandez Planning and Development item P6 is PDD 27438 in the name of La Land Trust this is for a change in zoning from C1 neighborhood commercial district and RMH mobile home District to a C2 General commercial District this comes through with a recommendation of approval from the Planning Commission and from the Planning and Development Department okay I have no one signed up to speak on this item is there anyone in the audience wish to speak against this item see no one it remains on consent p7 proof p7 was published in the Tampa Bay time September 6 2019 item p7 is PDD 27439 it's a zoning amendment in the name of Summer Lake Villas mpud master plan unit development District it's for substantial modification to amend the name to an existing mpud from Sunset Bay Club to mpud to Sumer Lake Villas mpud to add 84 units within the existing structures to the already existing 144 units for a total of 228 multif family units and to com to amend the conditions of approval related to the proposed modifications this comes here with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the planning and development department and

from the Planning Commission okay I have no one signed up for this item is there anyone here to speak against this item p7 seeing no one let it remain on consent and move to p8 p8 was published in the Tampa Bay Times September 27th 2019 item p8 is pd20 cu1 in the name of VMR Development LLC Chipotle Mexican Grill for the sale of alcoholic beverages beer and wine only on premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a restaurant with outside seating and service of alcoholic beverages in a pat on a patio in a master plan unit development District comes here with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the planning and development vment department and from the Planning Commission I have no one signed up for this item on on the list uh is anyone in the audience wish to speak against this item see no one let it remain on consent P9 proof P9 was published Tampa Bay Times September 27th 2019 item P9 is pd20 cu2 it's in the name of Trinity Hotel Group LLC Hampton in trinities for the sale of alcoholic beverages beer and wine only on premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a hotel with outside seating and service on a pool deck in a master plan unit development District this comes here with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the planning and development department and the Planning Commission okay I have no one signed up for this item is anyone in the audience wish to speak against this item see another one let it remain on consent t uh P10 proof P10 was public Tampa Bay time September 27th 2019 item P10 is PDD 20 cu5 in the name of fern LLC it's for multiple family dwellings in a C2 General commercial District comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the planning and development department and the Planning Commission okay I have no one signed up for this item anyone in the audience wish to speak against this item see no one move on to P1 proof you already did P oh done okay uh move on to that's the appears to be the end of your consent agend that's the end of the consent all right pleasure of the board move approve the consent agenda second second got a motion and second all those in favor say I I all oppos like sign motion passed p12 p12 was published in the Tampa Bay Times September 27th 2019 item p12 is PDD 20 cu4 it's in the name of Trey LLC starky market for the sale of alcoholic beverages beer and wine only on premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a produce market and upic with outside seating and service of alcoholic beverages in a master plan unit development District this comes here with a recommendation from the planning and development department and the Planning Commission of approval with conditions okay have no one signed up for p12 is anyone in audience wish to speak to p12 move approval second um Mr

County attorney I must abstain from the that's why it's on regular yep yes just got to say that right yes even if it hurts to say that okay had a record show that uh commissioner starky has abstained from the vote all those in favor say I I I'll oppose like sign motion passed thank you p13 and I believe so you would hear P3 before for p13 um because that you got to take action on P3 um to have the property consistent with p13 but you could do a combined public hearing if you'd like so long as you give the public opportunity to speak on both items Mr County attorney uh with of course the board's consent that would be our pleasure we had requested 10 minutes for total presentation on both it so I would prefer to have a joint hearing and opportunity for the the public as well to the extent there is anyone okay B3 I'll give the publication for both items since we're doing combined yes okay item P3 was published in the Tampa Bay Times July 26 2019 and item p13 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 16th 2019 uh Amy heer again Planning and Development uh so item P3 is going to be a large- scale comprehensive plan Amendment this is the adoption hearing for that Amendment um I will go ahead and read the ordinance into record uh an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a large scale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use maps map 2-15 and Sheet 21 changing from res 3 residential 3 dwelling units per gross acre to PD planned development on approximately 25.3 7 Acres of real property located north of State Road 54 approximately 4,400 ft west of Cypress Creek Road a text Amendment creating sub area policy flu 7.1.5 aan mixed use sub area and a map Amendment to the Future land use map 2-9 adding sub area map 2- 950 aan mix use providing for repealer severability and an effective date the project overview is Chang changing from res 3 to PD plan development and also creating Subara policy flu 71 7.1 50 it's located in the South market area and urban service areas north of State Road 54 approximately 1400 ft west of Cypress Creek Road and here is your aerial view identifying the subject property this is the proposed amendment future land use map identifying the PD change and comprehensive plan consistency it is changing from uh res 3 to PD to allow for an increase in density and intensity as well as commercial uses the proposed amendment is going for 280 units as or is proposing 280 residential units as well as 49005 49,500 ft of commercial IT is consistent with the following policies uh being transitional land uses South market area establishment hierarchy of access

interconnection of parking lots bicycle facility ities and State Road 5456 corridors of design standards and with that we recommend the board approve the amendment by roll call vote the um if you're going to do a joint public hearing then let's have staff's presentation on thir 13 and then we'll let the applicant do their three and 13 yeah they three good afternoon Tammy Snider Planning and Development aen mpud PDD 20 7393 the proposed development is located on the north side of State Road 54 between colier Parkway in Wesley Chapel Boulevard about 2 miles west of the I75 State Road 54 interchange the request is for rezoning from AC agricultural District to an mpud master planned unit development district for the development of 280 multiple family residential units and 49,500 ft of commercial entitlements and the property currently retains its original zoning District of agricultural here's the master plan and the applicant is also seeking a corresponding comprehensive plan Amendment Cal 195 for a change in the future land use from res 3 to PD plan development the applicant proposes the main access of the subject property at the intersection of sr54 and Oak Grove Boulevard which is an existing signalized intersection the site is approximately 25 acres of vacant unimproved land and of that 19 acres is Uplands just over six acres are wetlands and the applicant is proposing 14.7 dwelling units per developable acre for the 280 dwelling units the proposed mixed use development includes 49,500 ft of commercial entitlements here's a surrounding zoning districts land uses no it's located in the South market area and the urban service area and the proposed request is consistent with the Land Development code chapter 400 subsection 42.2 zoning Amendment and PUD master plan unit development district and with the applicable provisions of the Pasco County comprehensive plan and with that PDD recommends approval with conditions right this time we'll have the applicant come forward and a short period of time Mr chairman Clark hobby hobby and hobby PA 109 North breast Street Tampa Florida have been sworn uh while we may not have anybody here to object for reasons I'll I'll discuss further in a minute I do want to make a presentation for the benefit of the board just to refresh everyone's memory about the purpose of the South market area and what we're trying to do on this project at the outset I would note that I have already provided to the clerk with the consent of the County Attorney the following documents that are going to be into the record I've got the Urban Land Institute report from April 25 2008 the Pasco County Board of county commissioner strategic plan 2009 to 12 ordinance number 10-12 adopted on

August 10th 2010 stipulated settlement agreement between the county and the Florida Department of Community Affairs case number 10- 9880 GM from May 2011 Mobility fee ordinance ordinance number 11-8 adopted in 2011 several policies of the future land use SEC uh element of the comprehensive plan including 1.1.2 8.1.2 goal flu n objective 10.1 and Maps 28 and 223 and the last two I would point out uh are a market study the first of which was from BBG Inc and John Fabian uh junior who's a senior appraiser dated October 21st 2019 and the final um matter that we want to in to the record is a letter of no objection from the Twin Lake subdivision homeowners association so unless there's any objection I would ask that the board receive and file those Mr chairman members of the board uh I have reviewed them with the exception of the last two documents that Mr hobby has indicated indicated in his list they are all your documents um they're you know and I'm sure that Mr Hobby in his presentation will weave into how they're relevant to this proceeding but the weight in which you give them um is is your discretion during during the proceeding uh but I have no objection to them coming into the record okay so I need Mo to receive receive and F all right I got a motion second on a second all those in favor say I I all oppos like sign motion pass thank you Mr chairman uh taking it from there so I think the board is aware we've had other hearings on this matter that my client and I have been working on this matter for roughly a year now we've spent over eight months alone working with the Twin Lakes subdivision HOA and uh thankfully late last week that concluded with them giving us a letter of no objection and support which Kelly love has and I think I'm going to ask her to pass out to you all for your benefit um what you're seeing today before you is a quality mixed use uh project spearheaded by the Spanos corporation uh with a combination of three move reing file that you already already that already part of it okay all okay thought something different over the last year we've retooled this project CL cler you want she up okay uh over the last year we've uh worked hard with the HOA and with your staff to create an even better project that creates three distinct Parcels two of which are retail and and take advantage of the signal that is out in front of the light and the bus stop that's in front of the light at Oak Grove and 54 so we're right at an important activity node if you will along 54 and um along the South market area we also in working with your staff created better interconnectivity by agreeing to build a long access road over to our western boundary we took down the height of the proposed multif family on the project from four to three stories and we made a variety of other U accessions to our neighbors including creating a very large setback so that our neighbors won't get the feeling of having people looking down into their backyards from a a multif family project as you know the

board already voted unanimously to transmit this project to Deo and there were no objections um I want to point out a couple of things before I have Kelly love speak about this this board set in motion over 10 years ago uh a course of action for the South market area that told us based on the 2008 Uli report that we were supposed to be creating sophisticated residential development with density and quality and design and materials in the South market area and that the area was supposed to include higher density mixed use development that was clustered around existing arterial roadways which is what we're doing here subsequently you all adopted a strategic plan in 2009 uh which was a three-year period that says specifically that the county should prioritize significant multif family Workforce housing in the Gateway Corridor in 54 and 56 you subsequently adopted the comp plan and then entered into a stipulated settlement agreement with DCA for the creation of our urban service area and that was based on several things happening the first and most important thing is we're not going to spread our density out like peanut butter we're going to create a true urbanized higher density area along the South market area in particular but including the entirety of the uh urban service area and those were specific conditions upon which which DCA then DCA approved the urban service area subsequently you adopted the mobility fee ordinance which totally implements that vision and is critical to its success and that's why we have the mobility fees we have today in part is because the density we're creating in the urban service area is needed to support the transit around which Mobility fees were based as a result of that you won several Awards um from the regional plan Council for the creation of our plan and doing exactly what we did with the market areas including creating the South market area I'm going to come back in just one minute but I'm going to ask Kelly love to give a very brief um summary of the land use considerations here Kelly love director of entitlement planning clear viw Land Design 310 West AAL Tampa Florida 33609 I have been sworn um I'm going to just quickly reiterate some of the policies and land use goals and objectives that Pasco County has set forth for this area um the project is located in the urban service area the project is located in the urban concentration area the project is located in the Pasco Transit emphasis Corridor the South market area and the comprehensive plan targets all of these future growth um to be located and concentrated in these areas um the plan is for the South marketing area to evolve from a Suburban bedroom community uh development pan with inefficient utilization of land to one which incorporates verticality density in urban form I like that I got that from your website um the aen M mixed juuse amendments before you today contribute to this land use Evolution and it is

it's incremental and we're trying to in to uh put the density the mixed use and the connectivity um in an infill development um which has Transit right at its front door um the amendments are consistent with policy flu 81 to South Market the mission for the South Market is to create high density Compact and mixed use locations and maximize Transportation opportunities it's consistent with go future land use urban concentration areas um which is supposed to be a focal point of development in this County creating live work and play environments to attract high quality development this is a highquality development and the mix of uses and amenities in this project creat such an environment the location of this aen project in these amendments it does not result in premature or po poorly planned conversion of rural land to other uses it's not located in a highly sensitive environmental or ecological Corridor area and most important the densities maximize the use of existing public facilities along the arterial roadway and Transit facilities um the project is consistent with objective fuel flu 9.1 development location which states 80% of new infill development in the county shall occur in the urban concentration area 50% of all residential and 60% of commercial in the urban service area should be in this area the project is characterized as infill there is an existing bus route at its front door it's about a mile west of the Cypress Creek Town Center and a half mile to a Transit Center overlay on the South Side there's numerous retail commercial and um medical office and restaurants right across the street to the West there is a vacant parcel it already has C2 zoning though and an RO future land use which is even a higher future land use than the adjacent res 9 future land use with the twin L Lakes um subdivision the amendments are also consistent with policy 4 point or 1.4.3 transitional land uses that state a PD plan development future land use is compatible with surrounding future land uses as Clark mentioned we've worked very hard um to have it be a compatible design with the Northwest existing Twin Lake subdivision through building placement and maximum height of a building of 48 we had reduced it from four stories to three stories we have a minimum building setback of 75 ft from the properties um with the single family homes and we have a vehicle interconnect to the east and west which will provide neighboring properties to gain access to the signalized intersection ction at the project entrance um in summary the Amendments before you are consistent with the comprehensive plan and the gross strategy me um uh of Pasco County the smart growth Buzz terms of mixed juice density uh walkability live work play as a planner I know they're easy to throw around um but Implement implementation is the difficult part um we've worked very hard to um have these amendments uh before you result in higher density compact development within a mixed use

Community um and that's a good thing we believe it's consistent with the mission and the goals of the South market area thanks thank you quickly to wrap up Mr chairman uh I think you can here that we're fulfilling the mission at the South market area in the urban service area and we're providing the high density compact mixed use uh development that's supposed to be occurring and we got the consent of the adjacent homeowners and we did that by working hard but also lest there be any concern that there's an overabundance of multif family in this area we had a market study done that concludes and is in the record now that there is a a a shown continued additional D for demand for apartments in the immediate area uh that vacancy rates are low that the projects that are being built now are stabilizing in 10 to 24 months which is typical and an indicator of a healthy Market rents are uh trending upward averaging 2.8 increases uh annually and one final thing that I wanted to be sure as a long-term Pasco County stakeholder our overall renter percentage ownership compared to other Suburban or urbanized areas is very low we're at roughly 22.5% manate is at 27.8 Hillsboro is at 40 so we are way below everyone else we're in a healthy Market there's a demand here we got a great project we got a great Builder so I thank you thank you is there anyone to speak against uh what was it two and three three and 1 13 any comment on uh public hearing item number three or public hearing item number 13 anyone here to speak I will let's close public comment first yeah see no one that closes public comment on this item does board have U yes thank you have some comments I do thanks can you um Terry can you start with um the multi the map that we worked on we put that up so it's no secret about my disdain for the amount of apartment complexes that are going up along the 54 56 Corridor especially east of ker Parkway up to Bruce B Downs um and this is a general statement I've said it many of times and I appreciate the team meeting with me um the gentleman from Akin met with me about 6 eight months ago he knows that I said it that time I would not be supportive but he still came back that you have the right to do that um but I did say that from the start um my concern is that what this board is doing and Contin continuing to do along with what previous uh staff members have done with the South market area is you're going to how can I put it um be very disappointed 10 15 20 years down the road within a 5 mile radius here's the apartment complexes you have in that area alus at Wire Grass park at lexian Oaks land Tower Alto on ter at terab B Bona apartment Delany at Cypress Creek Lakes at coryer Commons tap tapestry at Cypress Creek wior Club at 7 Oaks Cypress Groves Dre core Enclave at Wesley Chapel Monclair Willow Lake and then Altus at Grand Cyprus I think that might have been doubled up nope there's

Altus at Wire Grass there's Altus at Grand Cyprus those are the current apartment complexes in that area already and if you listen to your citizens like I do that live in that area and the business owners that live in that area they're sick and tired of apartments on 54 and 56 it's a fact I hear it all the time so what we're doing is we're we're we're basically building a Skyline of apartment complexes along that little small Corridor so when people come to passo County off 56th Street that's what they see running up and down 56 in that portion of 54 is apartment complexes so if you want to be the F if you wanted to be the first thing that people see when they come to Pasco County is rows of Apartments then so be it that's what we'll have and we'll have it 10 15 or 20 25 years down the road now the market might be good right now but you're saturating the market in this one small section this County's big it's a very large County I approved harbon complex on consent today because I felt it was in the right area there's a need there and I understand that but if we keep putting up up in this area you're going to pay for it you will pay for it eventually look at what happened with Brandon I don't know if I mean if if we look at those areas at least I do and you look at some of the places of New Tampa and what's happened in those apartment complex in the in the past when the market isn't strong you're going to pay for it and that's what's going to happen so you know again and this isn't listen I don't knock the developer from trying to come in and build an apartment complex I get it you're doing it but we need to look at our com comprehensive plan and our policies in the South market area as a commission as a board and as a team we got to look closer at this mam I don't think I know why mam went in front of this board the week before I became I came on the commission or two weeks before I came in the commission because I knew I wasn't going to approve it so what does m room cause for example m is good in certain areas it causes density and without building an apartment complex you don't get that density am I correct typically you're not going to get the density if you don't build apartment complexes well there's a number of factors that but that's a big part of it yes M attempts to bring densities together so lots of times so so in our self market area our comp plan we're almost forcing in a way some of these developers to build apartment complexes in a way and this is before your time Terry I'm talking about the past you know but I think as a as a commission we we need to relook at that I I just I mean honestly I mean do we look when we get off 56 and 75 do we look at it do we do we look driving up and down the road so we're then what we're also

doing is we're taking away job creating sites this is Prime real estate for office and other job creating sites or other job creating users and we're pulling that away just because it's easy to develop IE apartment complexes along that area so I do you okay so on this map right here in front of us you can see which which ones are already developed I just named them all off that's in a 5 mile radius but I can explain the yes please cuz looking at the entitlement so what you're forgetting too so we're we zoning resoning resoning to allow EMF but look how many entitlements are already there when's enough enough when is it enough sure so the map that's on the overhead right now what it's showing is B basically uh within a 5m radius of the subject project here which is in red here at the center see if I can point it out right there um within a five mile radius of the subject property it's indicating all of the zoning districts that carry or that can carry multif family entitlements and so what we've identified is mf1 zoning districts in the uh in the light orange or beige color mf2 is in the in the brown color um and then mpud zoning districts are essentially this lighter beige all around here so you can see there's a lot of muds uh within the Wesley Chapel area and then of course you have the C2 General commercial uh districts which have the ability to host multif family as a conditional use um within that zoning and as a backdrop to all of that the map is showing the relationship of these zoning District s to single family uh residential areas which are in yellow if I go forward um to the next map here this map is showing the built multifam apartment developments that commissioner Moore was referencing here you can see the frequency with which these developments are happening in the in the F mile radius of the subject site so while the previous map was showing um all of the zoning districts that have the various entitlements this map is showing where the entitlements are actually being activated currently now there are some muds that are in process and or under construction that may have not been captured right um related to uh our analysis it's not in our GIS system yet where it's not showing up on as on Google Earth so ter we I have 13 here and there's more that you like you spoke of there's more in the pipeline right now more in the pipeline there's a and there's I know at least one missing off that list off this list here too there's that list that the commissioner was referring to so that's 13 there's at least one missing off that list and that doesn't include the ones that like you Terry mentioned are in the pipeline too again and then look at all the entitlements that are surround it I mean I'm just asking the question I would love this board to answer my question and say when is enough enough and are you okay with every all the entitlements there are you okay with the building apartments on every one of

these cuz you're going to end up with 40 or 50 different complexes along there when it's all said and duck in that area in that 5 mile radius if they were to build on that is that what we I mean I'm just asking is that what we want I mean I'm out here safeguarding my district if you want to invite him in bring him in but I'm listening in my residence I'm listening to the business owners all right Terry I I can Prov a little bit more clarification just so that we fully understand the implications of this particular map here um in the map here we have about 15 mf1 zoning districts nine mf2 zoning districts eight muds and about 309 C2 I think that number is kind of large because it's measuring parcel by parcel um but in any event there's a lot of C2 going on uh even though the all of these zoning districts will carry multif family entitlements in some way shape or form it should be noted that the future land use classifications often temper the density capabilities of the zoning districts so for example in mf1 the maximum density allowable is 12 dwelling units per gross acre but uh as far as we could do our research in the last couple of days here there are no mf1 in res 12 all of them are basically capped in res 9 or res 6 um so what that means is that if you do an mf1 and you have a res 9 future land use you're you're capped at that nine dwelling units breaker you can't achieve the 12 dwelling in its breaker not going to increase the numbers yeah same thing can happen with mf2 um with regard to C2 often where you if C2 is in a calm future land use it will essentially negate the conditional use capability of to do multif family in that zoning District because Comm doesn't allow for residential but if the C2 is located in an RO future land use category the RO carries with it the ability to do 24 dwelling units per gross acre so that's where often times you'll see a C2 zoning district with a conditional use to for multif family residential that will follow uh an mf2 standard or an mf3 standard even which are higher uh densities well we're looking at this and and and planning is very important you think we need to revisit these issues and look at this in a workshop in the near future so that we're all on the same page when you all talk and and understand what's going on you read look at the comprehensive plan of the policies of the South market area well there is a good idea probably be a good idea to do that yeah I just I just think so everybody's on the same page you going to say do the right thing in planning well we have uh a live task still that we're working on related the board of County Commissioners asked for us to take a look at this I believe uh it was in May and then previous to that it was L on this time of year I believe last November or December um it's still October anyway um where the board asked us to look at the multif family uh question I think what you're

talking about commissioner Oakley so there is that and then we have been looking at that and we've actually begun that analysis um but a workshop would be something that I think would be useful to the board to to understand the relationship because the last thing that I was going to mention is that within the MPS when they do carry residential entitlements they're often accomp accompanied by what are known as the land use equivalency matrices the Looms which enable tradeoffs in entitlements um and it it's there to begin to establish certain expectations of what kind of development can take place with the mpud and where it can happen within that mpud um but that's also a critical factor and deter how density lays out within an area Mr chairman yes sir let me let me ask I want to ask the board a question okay it's not really related to this project but if if this were you know where I'm voting it's not hard to figure that out but if the rest of the board does allow this to go through today would you be willing after you you know here's some of the statements I've made and what Terry made and that we've been waiting for over a year to take a good look at this would you be willing to give that area in a almost a temporary moratorium from coryer Parkway to Bruce be downs and put future resoning that have multif family on hold and I'm talking about just along that Corridor um until we can get work through this well that's I don't think that's what we're here to discuss today but I'm asking the question pretty pretty drastic I think I think I mean you want to keep putting them up there I mean that's it looks like I think um those of us whove been here a long time recall very few options if you needed to live in an apartment I think there were some over there on Cong is it Congress over by Ridge when you go to Ridgewood and then the rest were just junk junk um um and so yes we've seen a lot of apartment buildings going up but they serve a purpose and they were needed my daughter lives in one of these and and um and it's a she had to have a minimum salary of 42,000 to qualify for her one bedroom apartment these are not most of these are pretty darn nice and there are a lot of people who are downsizing and wanting to live in in a rental kind of community so it may be one day we see some of these convert to condos but I I don't think we're at that saturation Point yet and we purposely purposely put density on the 54 Corridor to save us from sprawl right and to allow one day to support Transit so that's so you're see you're seeing all this density here because the market needs it we have 100 people moving to Pasco a day where they where they supposed to live um I I do agree that at one

point I and and I don't mind taking a look at it to see what is that right number but I think we're you're reacting to seeing a lot of these new new projects come up and they're since we don't have that many roads they're just so visible right now on 54 I know in starky ranch they had entitlement to a lot more units and they they didn't they left thousands of units on the table they they didn't build all of them and so when you see all these and they they may have um the ability to build a lot most most of the time they never come close to the number of units they're entitled to so that's a little misleading um I think we're serving a a purpose here to have these multif family not everyone could afford these houses anymore and I know um seeing families living in my daughter's apartment their choices are to live in one of these apartments or go rent a house and Holiday and if you're a single mom with a couple kids that isn't where you want to be so um in some of those neighborhoods right we're working to clean that up but so I think we're we're we're serving a public need here and I I've been trying to send you guys stuff on on Workforce housing this is a national crisis a national crisis Mr chairman yes sir thank you so just to commissioner starky's statement about about not enough inventory people can't afford renting a home so let me give you some examples of home rentals in that area let's wrap it up shortly no I'm not going to wrap it up I can I'll stay here all day I mean this is important issue we're talking we got a we're we got an action it them here and I understand that and I I do have to be somewhere at 5:30 but if I have to be all 5:30 I'll skip it um 1,825 a month four bedroom two bath 2 00 foot 1,200 a month two b one and a half town home 1,200 foot $1,500 a month 3 2 and A2 home 1,800 ft 1275 2 2 and A2 town home I can keep going and going and going I do my due diligence I know what I'm saying when I sit up here and talk there's plenty of rental homes that are available in that area I ask you to do that research and look there's plenty available right now and when it comes to things like you know Section 8 homes and things like that there's a lot of Section 8 homes too that are very affordable in that area Mr Wells if I could and and you know commissioner Moore some things that we will agree on is you know the mutum before we got elected I remember it very clearly um you talk about the comp plan and our policies there are policies I'm absolutely an agreement that we need to relook at changing some things and uh you know but ultimately these are our policies uh you know you look at the this project I know you talked about Job Creator part of it going to be creating jobs the frontage is going to be retail um this and and I don't disagree with you there's some multif family on 54 that does not look good um it's right there at Frontage it it does not look good this I've seen the way it looks it looks totally different in my opinion

this is a project and you know quite frankly you voted to get it to where it is today um but I again I don't disagree I think as a board we need to relook at these things and work together but again I've said it once and I'll say it again I think the market decides not us I think we're walking up fine line if we talk about doing moratoriums um like like we did on you know the storage things um but again I'm I think as a board there's some things we can do but again this is our plan this is consistent with our goals and when I say ours the board's goals this isn't you know and it's and I I I'm with you commissioner I I don't disagree but I think staff is going to tell you that that you know this well it's obviously they want approval it's consistent we need multif family out there and again I think it's a good project so I I'm in favor of it Mr Mar thank you Mr chairman you know it's definitely said that Millennials nowadays they don't want this generally the same single family home they're trying to figure out what they want to go do until they get to that point but being the largest population segment they're going to switch to regular homes coming up um I will tell you like as we looked at this to trying to put the density on there we were trying to avoid sprawl do I think that we're getting what we thought we'd get I'll say no um these apartments that I see um there's way too many of them and I think for different Market reasons the different uh uh Finance ability options that are out there that it's just happens to be a niche that right now these guys can take these things build them flip them and go um I would much rather see us take another look at this because to me condos out there would be a lot better uh fee simple Town Homes would be a lot better than just straight Apartments I want people Ed in the community that's what we find is going to be the best in the long term so right now I mean we're we're subsidizing this these units all these apartments by $200 a unit why are we doing that I brought that up I brought that up before I was with you I think we need to go bring that that's part of the change in the conversation I don't think to be I think we do this very quickly as well when I look like in front of Bexley when I see uh the gas station in front there not what we talked about whatsoever when I look at some of the other projects that have come in it's it's still not getting what we want so do I think it's time to look at this I do do I think I still think we need the density there I do but I think we do better with the quality but for this project right here I don't know Terry what I'm hearing here we need to relook at this at at a workshop and so it give you better Direction cuz the direction after the fact and we've all been agreeing and this is our plan for the future that we've already set aside right we we need to uh do what's right and then look at it and see if it does need to be changed or if it needs to be the the same so I think that's something we need to have in a workshop so we can all sit down and

really talk it out Mr chairman yes sir thank you yeah and and I appreciate everybody's statements and you know just with commissioner Wells about it let it get this far well you you had to let it go that far because you didn't know what we don't know what project they were going to do you can't deny somebody having that Amendment not knowing if they're going to do apartments or if they're going to do retail commercial whatever so that has to go through there's there's no there's no mechanism really in my mind to not support that part going forward and I appr appreciate your spance about looking at this further but I I just you I would love have a I would love a commitment that we're actually going to move forward with that and look closer and look Clos that's what we got here today and and schedule that Workshop no I I agree absolutely I we agree you know and I and I appreciate you know and we talked about the mud thing and I know it's not some of that isn't turning out the way it's done and as you know um you know when we had somebody else that was in charge of Planning Development at one at one time time um yeah did some great stuff but I think this is where some things got off the okay I'm going to keep going for a second the course um come on heard you we schedule to be here um of course and um you know and the thought was with mudroom and things that you would have Transit there well you we went forward with those projects before there was any plans for Transit so that was not good timing you know so again now we're now we're now we're paying for it we really are and I will say if you do talk you know to the residents and you talk to business owners in that area and listen to what they think listen to what they say about all the apartment complexes they don't have a problem Staffing their their retail establishments in that area they're fine there's plenty of people out there that are working you don't need to draw more in the apartments because that's the Workforce you think you need in that area I would a th% disagree because I know for a fact I got people looking all the time my daughter's 16 years old and even wanted to get another job and nobody's even hiring in all those new places they're full they're full okay so there's not a shortage of workers in that area that need that want to work at the allall there's just not so that one and if you look at the if you look at the Raymond James study that I provided everybody two years back they're pretty reputable company you might want to take a look at that if you kept it CU I disagree with some of the statements that were made in addition saying that 90% or whatever the occupancy rates are high I told you before a few months ago that I did my own secret shopper in my office and that's not true because I every place I called except for one would have got me into the two- bedroom two bath the next day the next next

day one couldn't I had to wait a week and a half if I wanted to get in so there's a now they're buing more so that's changed Terry had something to add sure um right there are number of comprehensive plan amendments or comprehensive plan policies um that we that we could talk about at a workshop so you guys have a a good idea and a good picture of what the comprehensive plan is saying as it relates to uh the concentration of cities um so what from from what I'm understanding right now is that the board of County Commissioners is looking to do a workshop on multif family to understand what's happening um the thing that I want to point out however is when we talk about mudam and the direction that mam sends development I think it's important to underline that Mum is an incentive form it's it's voluntary it's it's developers typically not typically they're not compelled to do mum they volunteer to pick up a development type in order to achieve two types of big incentives um one is a Mobility fee incentive which gives you I think a 25% discount on your Mobility fees and then the other is uh additional allowances as it relates to the VC ratio you know with your with regard to your traffic impacts on the transportation Network and the reason why that's really big and the reason why some developers choose to do that is because if they can focus uh and create their compact develop create um the mixed use nodes known as the compact development areas if they can fill those with a mix of uses then the trend then the theory is that they'll there'll be a higher rate of internal capture within the development people won't be leaving the development to go shopping they they can walk or bike or whatever to theact Development Area it's not worked out that way we know it hasn't go up and down I mean it hasn't worked out most mum projects what well I mean I think commissioner more most modum projects are currently under development so that they the theory hasn't been proved out fully since they're still building them the ordinance is fairly new I think it was 201 12ish or 2013 somewhere around there yeah so if you think about the timeline it takes to build development what we're seeing built out in the field today were approvals that occurred in 2014 2015 and so on okay Sparky Ranch is a good example yeah it's a it's a leading example if you will of absolutely yeah yeah that that okay well one last name and that's it I got enough time we but we do um I want to say something so you mentioned I forgot what commissioner it was that we we talked you know talked about at our Mobility fee Workshop we didn't have the full support of yeah okay commissioner Mariano of um de incentivizing apartments or do we not at least agree on that we can we're at the point where we don't need to incentivize apartment complexes to be built and I will and I will ask and I will ask and I think I have a sneaky suspicion if you ask some people in this

business if that were to go away I bet you they'd still build commission would would would the current applicant if it's too late now don't worry you're not going to get hit with this but if you were to come come forward and those incentives weren't there I have a feeling they'd still build let's let's look at question but let's look at this the opposite asking the question for it to be answered to who you they're not they can't answer from there I mean so let me let me ask let me say it this way cuz I brought this up with Mobility fees what what do we want to incentivize now for me it's office it's it's jobs it's offices and in and light industrial you know good quality light industrial like metler to I wouldn't be giving anyone else an incentive we've got enough Burger Kings and McDonald's and all that I would I would flip it and just incentivize what we really want okay you're right you're correct okay that's things we need to look at in the future that can be part of our conversation yeah yeah that can be since I really want to go home I'm going to say move to approve second I got a motion this would be a motion on P3 first because you need to really take a motion on P3 first I got a motion in a second all those in favor say I V roll call vote call vote District Two commissioner Moore May District three commissioner starky I District Four commissioner Wells yes District Five commissioner Mariano I district one chairman Oakley I motion P3 pass now I need a motion for move to approve p13 I got a motion in a second is that roll call also or is that not that is not no is not all those in favor say I I I all oppose like sign motion passed four to one okay four to one I don't know who the one was hey congratulations you have of Department state road 56 okay or 54 actually this one's on 54 all right at this time we'll move back to regular items um one and two have been taken care of we're moving to R3 looks like Mr ansley's got some work here in front of us yes sir uh good afternoon commissioner in thewell public works and this is a follow-up report for the Johnson Road P project and that was a board initiated project and as soon as we get there I can begin um just to recap this is one street it's counter maintained it's paved and the estimated cost is um 20 $160,000 um 26,1 165 maximum cost per eru is $4,600 this road uh qualifies for a cut through discount which is 50% which brings the um project cost to 30,100 and um the maximum cost per eru is 2,300 um this was brought to the board in February this year and there were a number of um concerns but we are bringing it back as a follow-up report um just to um make sure that the maximum uh assessment has been noticed to all the property owners so we were asked to bring this information the costs for a 5 foot sidewalk and um we got that

$160,000 um determine whether or not there were any Community Development block grants um in this area and the answer was no and also the traffic count um on a daily basis was approximately 550 vehicles this is a map um linkoln um Zimmerman to 19 and just some um photographs of road condition this is near US1 19 Johnson Road and Rampart Lane and um here the options are are the decision the board either we proceed with the project or um we discon the project M chairman M Marana so this is my project I brought Ed forward after many meetings that like Gulf Highlands with their neighborhood watch Association and it's an an item that just kept coming up it it does connect Zimmerman and us19 so it's a road that should get a lot of traffic um right now the road is in such terrible condition that it doesn't get as much traffic as you would normally think they'll kind of Go a different way but it is a a connector it does connect collector roads so it is uh qualify for the assessment one of the concerns that came up when we were here before was people complained about you know what about the children's safety because if you build this road like a Hicks Road without a sidewalk it's going to be dangerous and the sidewalk is the key part of this whole thing um when we when we asked staff to kind of work with cdbg they they did talk to to them but I'll tell you talked to Marcy today and Marcy come up with a solution that could actually work uh years ago this is part of what they call East Brown Acres East Brown acres is that low income area which this does qualify for we could keep the paving assessment the way it's set up here so the citizens paying that part of it and we could use in the next 6 months the cdbg funds for the 160 Grand to actually pay for this Marcy could bring that back to the board if the board members are agreeable to that I want to move forward with this and in six months we'll get that cdbg allowance uh for the for the sidewalk to come after the fact which the timing should be fine how's that sound to the board well I guess I want to hear from Marcy I don't I don't know what that pot of money is you know what else other uses sorry I was looking at something else I think what he's saying to let her look at it and come back yeah Marcy and I have talked about it she actually did the research on it so Marcy if you would Marcy yesberg for the record uh community development director uh so commissioner Mariano asked me to look at this area it is 54% low mod income so it does qualify for our community development block grant and what I explained to him is that uh if this is a project that the Commissioners want our next round of funding will begin in March with availability in October and we would uh encourage um another County department to come in with an application for this project itself uh and then the money would come to you with our all of our projects and with the action plan in August and then be available with our funding in October

2020 is that the quickest way for you to get this done um I think it's the best way to get it done and I don't know if it's probably the quickest I guess it's six months um one of the benefits to it if we would would take take this through the whole cdbg program your cost is going to go up because of Davis Bay connect I don't think we're Bound by that the way we're doing this right now so our cost to go build this road going across is a lot less the people are going to have to pay and I think the numbers will show that the people are going to be able to afford it over time using the CBG is directly exactly what this should be used for and I think it's the most efficient way to actually spend spend our money so uh can I just add though that if you are going to build the sidewalk with it you will still have to do Davis bacon the sidewalk sidew yeah the sidewalk but not not the road project which again would add a lot what's question is this a 10 project you mean a repay in period yes sir repay in 10 or 15 10 years 10 years 10 years so that's if it's 20 did I see 23300 so that's 230 a year plus interest approximately plus plus interest yes yeah could come in less if the project came in less it could come in less but until we do the actual construction I can't say right okay Mr chairman yes just a quick question this is didn't we do something very similar to this with the CD cdbg funds in l a a a project in Luchi years ago with cdbg funds we did Tom Tommy Town pardon me we did Tommy town I thought we did Luchi at one time too right yeah we uh we paved a lot of roads in Luchi with our section 108 Community Development block ground funds I'm get to look at this I mean it's been done before but they still those people in Luchi still had to pay different Road it was a different Road p on some and there was right on and this one here again it's part when I first was elected East Brown Acres was already approved with cdbg and they had done all a lot of the roads in there somehow this one got left out and again there's a major road going through it really shouldn't have been left out okay oh this is by Leisure Lane no it's over by the old McDonald's that got torn down by just south of Gulf Highlands entryway coming in down just south of Ashwood this has Leisure Lane touching it there another Le Lane um I'm looking at the map says Leisure Lane no but must be two Leisure Lanes a Leisure yes there's a Leisure Lane um and Rampart Lane but the the the road section we're talking about is between 19 and zimam we might need to change one of those names Public Safety yeah so it's before to approve well I think they're going to bring it back does it require is that what you're ask let's let's well let's get started with proceed with the Johnson B initiated Paving assessment project um if the board's comfortable to go with

the sidewater project and again we're not going to do that today but down the road if if we get consensus going then I would make that move a move to approve the board initiated Paving assessment second okay got a motion in a second all those in favor say I I I all those like say motion pass thank you thank you okay we'll move on to P good afternoon Commissioners again Marcy esberg for the record director of Community Development here to uh talk about uh you you've had actually several uh Developers for public comment and this is uh Florida Housing Finance uh Corporation released a request for applications uh for affordable housing developments this was released for small and medium-sized counties uh of which Pasco is one and it uh it allows up to $1.7 million in tax credits uh for 10 years and uh as a county we can only uh select one applicant to go forward and then they compete at the state level for this tax credit program uh it's called the local government area of opportunity funding and applications are due to Florida housing uh no later than November 5th so what we did was we uh partnered with the Pasco County housing Finance Agency and we released a notice of funding availability on August 30th and asked for applications to come in on September 17th we offered a county match of our grant funds so this is not general fund dollars but this would either be our home investment partnership or ship funds uh for the amount of $425,500 by Florida housing finance and it's set according to the project type so for example uh you would see in some of the applications a gardenwood project the total amount that they asked for is $354,000 midrise wood or garden ESS was 425 625 so that's why you see those different amounts we did receive eight applications we received four family applications and four elderly applications and what we did was we used Mark Hendrickson who is the Financial Consultant for the Housing Finance uh authority to review all the applications he has so many years of experience with affordable housing all around the state and he offered a very uh professional and comprehensive uh opinion about what what we received uh the Housing Finance Authority met on September 25th to review Mr Hendrickson's recommendations so uh let me just review the criteria the minimum criteria was that it would be located in Pasco County and there would be an Evidence of site control the set aside of rental units has to be equal to or greater than the uh housing tax credit standards uh there was a requirement for a zoning verification ation form which came from our planning department there is a minimum of a 50-year set aside for affordability and according to Florida housing you need to at least have three of the five resident programs being offered then we looked at some

additional criteria the amenities and the development in the unit Energy Efficiency maximum economic impact we also looked at developments that could Pro provide a lift to the neighborhood or lead to revitalization so we looked at what was in our Consolidated plan what areas we have targeted for revitalization or what areas the county has targeted for revitalization because you want to incentivize the same things uh the same areas proximity to public transportation services and employment leveraging of other funds with uh leveraging of funds with other resources and the ability to meet fhfc requ requirements for the contribution to be a part of permanent financing with minimal loan terms so uh what we are bringing before you today is the recommendations that came from the Housing Finance Agency so uh and they adopted the recommendation that came to them from the consultant there were uh three applicants that Rose to the top and N the number one applicant was bayet Gardens it is an elderly project in on Lakeshire Boulevard in Hudson the number of units are 120 uh with 66 uh one-bedroom and 54 two bedroom uh and you could see here that um the split for rental restrictions and the cost per unit and what we found is that it it became the lowest cost per unit with the county match it also had the highest proximity score which is a scoring that happens at the state level uh and all three of the projects are agreeing to keep the projects uh affordable in perpetuity and that actually is a a factor that knocked out a couple of other projects cuz why not invest $425,000 in something that's going to remain affordable rather than those that will only be affordable for 50 years so um so you could see uh and and again the developers have come and spoken to you uh Gulf View places in Hudson also uh 7215 Hudson Avenue that is right next to the elementary school there uh and that was a total of 92 units that was considered the number one family project so um what came forward was one really good senior project and one really good family project and then in third place uh is was Tanager Court in a different area old County 54 and Florida 54 uh and that was with 88 units so the actual recommendation that came from uh Mark Hendrick and to the H HFA board was to provide a loan commitment of 42500 625 to bayonet Gardens with a 30-year amortization 1% interest rate annual payments with a balloon in 18 years after conversion or provide a loan commitment of 354,000 to Gulf View Place with a 30-year amortization 2% interest rate annual payments and a balloon Co Terminus with the termination of the first mortgage that was the actual um uh recommendation I do also there's been a lot of talk today about statistics and the need in the county and I did also want to explain that uh the population in Pasco County about 32% of us are over 65 and that's over 111,000 uh people and 35% of those have

a disability so that is part of the need that we have here as well as the need for affordable housing for families this map shows where the three projects are located and again the final recommendation uh was from HFA but also the staff recommendation uh why not lead with uh your best project so we are recommending uh banet Gardens uh be uh awarded the $425,500 of Grant funds I will explain that this does not mean that they will win the tax credit at all this just means that we as a county would um would say that this is the choice that we have um most uh they this project is producing the most amount of units at the lowest cost per unit uh they've committed to all five resident programs not just three of the live uh they've uh exceeded standards for unit and development amenities and Energy Efficiency again it's affordable in perpetuity uh they explained to you earlier in the day that they're exceeding the commitment for atrisk population and they're also talking about having a focus for disabled veterans for that population and it is located in the targeted West Market area which is an area that the county has targeted for redevelopment I lost this Mr Mo thank you sir and I met with Marcy briefly um at lunch time just and she let me know I think it was eight initially that um that correct yeah we kept that applied and you guys broke it down to three mhm and I apologize I just lost my my spot can you put back on there you're going ask me and I don't happened to it I know I know can you help me let me see if I can get back to it on my page I don't know who the the oh jeez I'll wait for you go there you go well you had it no ma'am there you go thanks um thank you me personally I mean I'm I'm leaning towards senior I think just the statements you just made um it reference to our our elderly population um I I look at it this way I mean I was you know spent many years in in the healthc care space and and dealing with seniors and and um it was difficult them to find housing quite a Hillsboro County is where I did a lot of business and and they and they did have a number of um apartment complexes over there jeez one was one's on Bayshore was there was it was beautiful um which they deserve it my opinion you know these These are folks that have worked you know a lot of them worked their entire lives and pain into the the system and and um now it's time for us to my opinion give back a little bit to them and uh and you have a lot of veterans you have a lot of people with disabilities um one thing just looking at the list and I I don't know who's number three who's is that commissioner Wells commissioner starky's District right there my district okay I always forget up there where it where it goes okay um so that's your District 54 that's about how far is that from um holiday do you know not that far

yeah not very far not very far less than a mile probably to get into okay holiday we were talking about that earlier about holiday I think about we talk about holiday quite a bit I wish commissioner starky was in here to hear this or to maybe answer some questions on that um if I'm not correct a lot of those Homes at holiday were initially a lot of homes that retire we're moving into and as they've aged you know and passed away some of the issues that are going on there have been caused because of that maybe family members own it they rent them out and stuff so what I think about a lot of those seniors where they have where are they going you know what what options do they have um we hear about that area so much in holiday so what options are available for him and I see number three um we talked about it earlier too they were on they were on the list list last year cuz I remember that they were they were the chosen correct project last year they were they were chosen last year and then competed at the state level and did not win the tax credit project know I mean there was a lot that didn't win if I'm not correct um I do like this that they have three bedrooms and the reason I say that um is because a lot of these seniors do have um or need family members to live with them to take care of them um they can't take care of their ADLs um you know if you know when I say ADL activities of daily living they need extra assistance and extra he um I would assume a lot of these places or all of them would have elevators if we're talking seniors hopefully they would um but the same time they need some people do need quite a bit of assistance um if you think about um again living caregivers some of them may be able to may have living caregivers that gives an extra more space for them again I'm just talking about thinking about from my background and some of the patients and that we used to see um when it came to the Medicaid waiver programs and diversion programs in Hillsboro County that I dealt with um sometimes that extra space is is good but I just want to make sure that we're taking care of that population that's my two cents chairman yes sir Mr Wales if I could and I had the opportunity to sit down with Marcy last week let me just ask you question as far as I know you got the minimum criter and then you have the additional criteria that we set or you set is that same criteria we set last year whatever those the list of criteria that we did up above and beyond were those the same same criteria that we did last year for the formed know I know you weren't here but I wasn't here I mean is it something we have set with is it us is it I know you said the state's got the minimum but it these are all the state criteria and when it was um so so there when I said the the minimum that's considered threshold so when you're reviewing Grant applications or applications they always have to M meet a threshold to go through and then you go to the next level so those are all the state and okay and you know like we discussed and I I brought

up the same thing commissioner to to Mary was seniors um one of the first questions I had because I know we we picked the 54 one last year I know I have a sneaking suspicion that there's more senior population there than there would be up in Hudson um and that's I was just thinking you know I grew up right up there in Hudson I it just seemed to me like it's a little bit far away from maybe I know it's close to the hospital like we heard the applicant and uh you know I know the sidewalks were issues but I just thought it was kind of far up that's why I was asking you about the senior population because I I my opinion I think the seniors are the priority but I I just feel like Old 54 and 54 it and I know you gave us a number of 110,000 and countywide or 32% but I I got I have a feeling and I don't know I was hoping maybe you had the numbers to to show us but but I think I think Mike's on commissioner Moore's on point and I I personally agree with him on the number three I think and I the three bedrooms and I know we talked about that too and I I think caregivers and those are some things that I really didn't think of but I agree so three bedrooms y than for this family member Mr chairman M Marana I tell you this is a difficult one there's like three great companies here great great projects I mean and you know hard to choose tager they they had a shot last year they didn't get the funding um I'll say the uh the Gul you place with blue sky communities their affiliation with Metropolitan Ministries really was kind of looking at that site because I will tell you next to Hudson Elementary um it is a homeless problem right there and that's something we need to address anyway but uh I thought this might be the way but I'll tell you and and looking at this uh bayonet Gardens where it's located and just to just to clarify Marcy when it was like being talked about early today I think you guys were misinformed um there's sidewalks coming in at 5A that under construction next year uh that's going to go right on 5A so it's going to connect all the way to the hospital and back so as far as getting to anywhere to go for the wind Dixie those there the Walgreens that's there um yeah Walgreens across street um the hospital that's right there the library is right there as well I mean your seniors here are going to have something to do the property ABS Lakeside Woodlands which ABS uh Beacon Woods which is next to Beacon Woods East and wildwood trailer you want to talk about a senior population remember that thing started back in the 70s even Country Club the states another a bunch of homes so there is a massive senior population right in Hudson uh you may not be aware of it but it's right next door so kind of like what what Trinity looks at when they build their their senior facilities down there they were looking at well people want to tr in transition out the same thing can happen there and this site's been sitting idle for so long and it's located in such a

critical spot that I think can do a lot of good I mean Atria Gardens is right down the street uh on on a side road so for for everything we looked at as far as talking about seniors talking about the point scores and when I look at the point scores they're they're phenomenally higher and that's not even I don't if the I don't know Mar did you guys factor in that sidewalk coming in how did you even have that data uh I don't think we added that data okay so that data is going to add in in more points as far as going through and the bus station goes along 5A road which is right beside it um I mean there's a dentist that's right there as well so as far as care and everything else this that that number one site I think they've done a phenomenal job with picking that one um I think you've done a good job with it and again with the sidewalk thing Mr Mo I mean good points by both um of our fellow Commissioners um do how can we get bless you thank you um the the numbers when it comes to the democra for the senior population where they are in relation to these two sides like numbers that's very important and the reason I say that more again you know people prefer to be live be close to where they lived um you may already have family members where close to where they lived before um and to move people farther away it's it's sometimes it's it's difficult on them too so I you know my mind is just thinking just from historically seeing on this board and and and hearing from especially commissioner starky you know about that what what goes on in the um holiday area what's happened um I just I would love to know what where the larger population is it would be a big help it's think you got issues in both places well I'm not saying you don't but I would love to know let me get the microphone over here I would love to know where the majority of that senior population sits in in on incomes too right so they got to qualify yeah so but you got you can't have you know somebody that lives in the you know the more likely if they're live in a 200 1502 200 $300,000 house there's a good chance they probably wouldn't qualify for this they in Hudson you got 32 more units that'll be built where you only get 88 in oh I understand that I'm just wondering where the population is the larger population is where's that set I think both populations are going to fit that number we don't have we don't have the numbers they're there they're there and I what happens is it's difficult with the census to to break down unincorporated areas it's just so um and it it becomes d d Centennial so if if I could find the number they might be from 2010 or even 2000 and so then they're not even appropriate yeah it's really it's it it's hard to get it down to those those specific areas yeah because we I used to do that I used to obviously break we legitimately broke those numbers down

that was that was Hillsboro pole cardi Highlands and manatee counties I used to do it with and um and there's obviously business reasons that we did it for but we were able to pull those numbers and see what this population the population was go directly to those citizens and reach out directly to them so Mr chairman yes just I again back back to I mean you guys know the population numbers in Beacon Woods Beacon Woods East Etc there's there a huge population there that are that are retiring and some of them have moved to nursing homes already but other there others that are in there that are going to be making that move um when you look at the number of 66 one bedrooms 54 two bedrooms those that do need the family member there's 54 opportunities for that to happen um the other one you talked about the three bedrooms there's only six three bedrooms there um I think the O the overall numbers I mean we we're competing now statewide right that's correct so we want to get the best shot at this just looking at the scores without even factoring That Sidewalk which should bump those numbers up again I mean clearly by six and a half points plus whatever the sidewalk is we want to we want to go go back a winner or the get Best winner we've got out here and the numbers are really showing strongly and staff's backing it up that that's our best shot to get it funded and I hate to lose another one and again this project here I've always looked at that site wondering why we never made it happen but I think it's an opportuni in front of us that the developers done a great job designing it Mr chairman yes sir Mar when's this du by November 5th of course I ran the corner of course I was just hoping we could and I hate to continue it but just I wish we could but obviously we can't continue just so we can actually look at those those numbers right I'm going to try something Mr chairman I'm going to make a motion to approve staff's recommendation number one okay I got a motion still leading at three up to one of you I remember last year I just remember I know they didn't make it I they all a lot didn't make it right it yes it's a extremely competitive process but you you it is competitive Statewide and you this this review process was mirrored the review process that happens in the state so again the the information of what we what the consultant looked at uh should mirror again what the state is doing so you found I think our best option would well you're choosing number one as staff because that option is looking that way so it's good to lead with your best foot forward well here's commissioner starky and maybe she knows she been listening to us I think I'm sure she we need your Professional Knowledge you're up right now of your District we're waiting for you Mr chairman if I could just ask

commissioner a question maybe she knows the answer to it so we we're on our four on our four we're looking at these three are you aware you're aware of this right okay so my question was you talk about holiday quite a bit um and the population there but knowing that historically it's been a lot of seniors and as they've aged out that's why you had the the renters they passed away or moved on you had the the renters of the families that are written out or what whatever's going on there but do you know have an idea of what the senior population is around and close to this site which site number three number three that's the one that's close to Holiday about a mile from holiday I guess no I you know I'd like to approve all three of them I think we we've already we've already passed that issue so um I I have not BR broken mine down by age so I don't know I didn't know if you may know there's a motion on the floor there's a motion on the floor and I'm lacking a second at this time for number one which is what staff approved we just wait for you to see if what you know about that area yeah I don't have that information but I welcome all these in my district I think we'll all agree that we would like all of them to be moved forward so not Omar this is actually as that's Marana I mean Mariana's is one Mariana's they all have a need two they well is three I think the uh I think the company that built the one in my district is is that your number one it's very nice yeah I think it's a very nice project um I don't know if the second one is going to be the next one is like that one but I I just we got to go after all of these that we can and I think there's more funds that maybe we can go after after being in Washington okay Mr yeah Mr Starker part of the part of the re my rationale to go with this is the the scoring system that we're competing Statewide with this so at a 17.5 compared to a 135 and 11 our our best shot from staff's recommendation is from everything we can see is going that and that didn't included in the sidewalk it's going to be built on 5A alongside I was comfortable with staff's recommendation do that does that mean you'll second it then mine was voted higher but so I have a motion by Mr Mar for number one I do not have a second at this time okay I'll second we were discussing and we wanted to so now I have a these are competitive though this doesn't for sure it's going to get built that's correct it it has to go to the state and compete at the state level as I know we tried to get this one in my district last year and it and it didn't make it but I'd love for them to try again mhm so chairman yes sir you're you're said you're leaning toward staff staff's recommendations yes yep I wish we could get the number I wish we again I just back I wish we had it's hard to do I know I just wish we did I me just when it when it comes to

making these decisions we need to go where the population is and I'm not saying one's not doesn't have the population I just wish we knew I'm not against any of service you know these citizens to the best of our ability and they have the most chance I just already one we don't know for sure so I think the company that's building the apartments has one near Gulf View already now the company's building apartments at the mall don't they didn't they build one it's called Pasco apartment or something that's a well that's it's a different project I know but is it is it this type no it's not it's not the same people no but it's the same kind of project again back part part of the reason going back to number one it's the best chance to get it funded the last one we tried didn't get funded if you don't if you don't pick your best project and doesn't get funded you're going to say why do we do that again at least you know your best shots that one there I seconded it so okay I have a I have a motion in a second all those in favor I I just want you to see I'm voting pushing for even though I really really want it's in my district but it's close enough to yours that's why that's why we that's why we asking you kind of like to know okay that completes the regular items you well you have c24 that you need to go back to I think oh that's right c24 I got my my questions are answer you got your answer yes sir everybody else okay F actually called me directly in the addition of Barbara and then F called me so I'm I'm okay with it to explain the breakdown of what it was spent on spend spent on and how they basically depleted that so okay she was thorough you moving approval I will do that second all right I got a motion to second on c24 all those in favor say I I I all oppos like sign motion passed this time we'll move to um old business okay Mr Mo thank you sir you sure I'm not on a time limit Mr chairman maybe that will shorten some things for all right couple things um good news um there was another um home dedication for a um disabled veteran in in Lena Lakes it was on October 9th I had the opportunity to attend it um it was for the Steven Siller tunnels to Towers Foundation if you know if you're not familiar with Steven sillers tunnels Towers um that Foundation was built around the family of Ste Steven um Siller which was a firefighter um 911 um was actually in one of the tunnels I'm trying to leave saw the buildings collaps literally throw on his pack ran towards there and and uh unfortunately passed away and his family um started a foundation and now what they do is go across the nation and provide homes to um most mostly you know disabled

veterans and service members and again another good project great great project um mortgage free home um and it's uh it's a smart home too which obviously is is great for that citizen so very very wonderful a lot of people from Pascal Sheriff's Office and fire rescue were there that day um next thing I wanted to talk about is something called a puff I don't know if anybody's familiar what a puff is which is a puff is a a um private user fee um which that fee is being used on part of the Sierra property um by a developer named Hutton if you're not familiar with them I think they're the same developer that's doing some stuff over at Mitchell yeah um so this private user fee has caused some issues and caused some problems for our our citizens and it's caused some issues and problems for the tax collector and myself too so what they're doing um with this puff is they're actually charging this user fee to everybody that makes a purchase at I know it's crazy right at at those shops so if you go by if you go to one of the I won't name any shops if you go to one of the stores and you make a purchase you pay your obviously your P your your sales tax you know six of the state one to the county you're also paying 1% to the developer on top of that and it's it's a line item on that receipt when been doing is causing confusion amongst our mutual constituents cuz they all shop there and thinking that it's a county fee where is it where so there's a portion of Sierra's property because remember they lease those properties and there was a developer that did the shopping center where um Hobby Lobby was and or is um was it earthfare um dollar one of the dollar stores Five Below some other things so if you go make a purchase there for on a taxable item not OB not a perishable or non- perishable food item um on a taxable item it is legal we had to do a lot of research on that it is legal yes unfortunately it's legal um so as to their tenants so no it's but they they it's they the customers are paying it so if you go buy if you go make a purchase if you make a purchase if you make a purchase you will see it on your receipt you'll see 7% sales tax and you will see a one 1 cent or 1% tax um below that so we were getting calls tax collector and myself and emails and tagged on social media what is this why are you guys charging this had no clue that was happening had to do that research to due diligence reached out to the um how they list it reached out to the developer um it's it says public user fee or private user fee I should say is it a private or is a public it's public puff is public well public user fee so the developers information refers to it as both a private user fee and a public user fee and so I'm not sure yeah a puff is actually I think if I'm not correct a uh well it's a user fee but it's think it's a public user fee um in reality but yes I know they're referring to it as both but they're charging that fee so the problem was I'm trying to make a very long story short um what we'd like to do

and what I asked them to do and this is after been speaking with Hobby Lobby Corporate um after their staff members were were um stating that this was a Pasco County fee to their customers which caused confusion another reason why we were getting calls um I reached out to Hobby Lobby personally myself um can imagine how that call went in the beginning but um and they and they corporate got back to me and had some conversations and they were used to it they have it in different areas some areas throughout the state Colorado and what we found out Colorado actually has um the areas they're in has a disclaimer um talked to the developer about it they were willing to do it they said um we got into some language issues I was working with obviously I passed it on to Mr Stein Schneider working on some language they really never got to the point where they liked our language which was to me um more transparent on where the fee was going so long story short is what I'm asking because this may continue to happen is that we need some type of ordinance um actually in this County that would require those that have a puff to place a um a uh a notice at the point of sale and at the entrance of all these we can't outlaw them well we cannot outlaw them from my understanding I think Mr stys can jump in I don't think you can Outlaw the puff that's so it I haven't done that research to to see whether or not you can flat out outlaw them um my guess is that they that what will what the corresponding argument would be is this is a fee like if they were charging for parking and and it's a it's a transaction between they and their customers what you can Outlaw is that they pass it off as a governmental fee who collects it our tax collectors collecting it it's on every receipt so it's it's collected at point of sale yeah and they don't remit it to revenue because and that's that was part of the that was part of the confusion half a s and I apologize it's not one s it's half a cent that was part of the confusing the first receipt that we saw yeah had this public user fee at the bottom of the receipt on top of the taxes right which clearly is wrong right because they can't charge their fee on as a percentage on top of taxes that's what they're doing um so the so I guess that what the commissioner is looking for is something that would require them if they're going to put if they're going to have this fee have it on their receipts correctly and have a notice that that folks know that they're paying it yeah let me just Mr chairman jump in it Hobby Lobby um since then I've been told that they've done away with it which means they're still paying it they're just not putting it on the somehow the more than likely I can't I'm not sure but some more than likely they're just including it in the cost of goods somehow it's the way they're doing it because they still have to pay it to the developer no matter what but what

the majority of people are doing to put in the receipt charging the customer so what I'm asking for is to allow Mr Steiner which already started on it last year to move forward with some type of ordinance that requires them to have display publicly a disclaimer at each point of sale so they know what they're getting into before they make a purchase and at their door and it needs to specifically state that this fee is being charged by the developer and the money is being remitted to the developer this is not a Pasco County fee or tax and if that if that's the desire of the board I would like a motion to have the County Attorney directed to do that oh would night need to I'm good with it yeah I'll make the motion make a motion yes got a second second thank you got a motion a second all those in favor say I I I'll oppose like sign motion pass thank you maybe take some if you want to talk take some time and talk to Mr Stein Snider he can detail even more we had some fun with that over a weekend and some week it was all coming to a head made the news yeah so I okay that's it for me is that everything yes sir thank you so much it's been a pleasure all right commissioner starky um if you happen to look in your September Magazine from I don't even know what it's called Uh this one County news they had a big article on trade international trade and they interviewed me and they got a nice little article and our picture of us at the Panama Canal M so pasco's in there and then I looked at another one and one of you other Commissioners are in there and I don't remember who or what it was about right now but one of you guys is in another magazine um you might have seen in the paper how the Hillsboro Economic Development Corporation has changed their name to the Tampa Bay we've talked about you talked about it this morning are we going to send a letter of displeasure I tweeted one I think we should send a like the other jurisdictions are doing I don't think it's appropriate I agree we worked hard to be you agree then I'll take care of it yeah um I think that that is under all sign under mine huh under my signature or under everybody's uh I think the whole the whole board whatever okay that's what I'm asking yeah it's just inappropriate you know we work so hard to be Regional and then they take the regional name yeah and I I don't think T is bad city of T about it no it was not not cool um someone whose office Bernie's office or who W that letter um we could author it or economic development but I'll be happy to put something together for the chair's signature okay so we had a a great meeting at the White House and met um made some more wonderful contacts and um a lot of the people that I talked to I was able to bring up that um issue happening in Jack's um District anded to on the um depressions and uh trying to see if we

can't find a way to get some federal money to come to come help us and help those people and I have some names of some folks at the um EPA and Homeland Security and um I think that we can get some help and and I'll just have to get with you um later on give you some of these contacts but and understand the situation further Jack um did yeah I'm not in a good State of Mind to talk anym further on that but it was it was a good visit and again we made great contacts and I think it's really cool the White House is doing this so I tell you Katherine was phenomenal up there he was firing away question after question and and didn't dig it in and and found out that we can probably get the help for these people out of the caverns fill done so got great potential in that plus you touched on the opport zones too we dug that dug that up a little bit yeah yeah so um trying to see if we can't expand uh those opportunity zones as I mentioned to them the opportunity zones that pretty much won were not the ones the county put in but as told to me by um Deo they were ones that developers put in um and we have no list or idea of what those projects are on those those pieces of land and we have we have no way to help it move forward and we you know we want to take advantage of the opportunity zones while we while we can and we're kind of stuck here but I know I have one in my in my district that borders on an opportunity Zone that wants to go do a uh knock down an old aging strip mall and do some multif family and mixed use um and and would be greatly helped by the opportunity Zone they did tell us there may be some other money some cdbg uh money and some HUD projects that could help us because they're in such a low income area but yep we they know where Pasco is I think if we we follow the line as we talked about is it was working with our federal people let's do was a series of town town hall meeting with our federal people in there with a Cong Congress changing the legislation in there just a simple bill we can get that all those things changed but it does take that public meeting so yeah uh yeah you were did great up there thank you but that's I think that's all I'm going to say what resolution oh thank you commissioner St all right uh commissioner wals oh can we can we talk about something real quick resolutions oh there was way too many today oh okay that what you want me to talk about can we move them before public comment because the pro the issue I see is we're wasting we're going back to the same thing of Staff having to wait today this the first time we've had so many long I thought it was one per commissioner too that's that's true too the reason the reason the resolutions are after public comment is the state law that requires you to take public comment on any proposition and I don't know whether a resolution is a proposition or not in some cases it is in some cases it's not can Andy come speak to that real quick

from hills from the Hillsboro County's perspective Andy Taylor yes he's got some come forward just for the record Andy Taylor legislative Aid to commissioner Moore I know Hillsboro is a charter County so it's different they do theirs before public comment um they called they're formatted a little differently referred to as either a proclamation if it's declaring a month or a week like Community planning month that would have been referred to as a proclamation when it's a commodation like what we did for Miss humans this morning they refer to it as a commendation and that might be their even though they're Charter County that might be their way around that they do that them before public comment thanks just again going back to our fear what we talked about before is we had now we have once again we had staff waiting for a long time today which they could be out working doing the jobs that they probably want to do instead of sitting here having to wait for us that's just my opinion okay and I passed out the lectures on the line this next one is Gary mormino he was a he's a historian and he's written a lot in the area he's very entertaining and um it's interesting his subject is 10 foods that Define Florida so um that is November 7th in the Park it's a great evening so come on out was that it yeah okay commissioner Wells thank thank you chairman um I just wanted to say thank you for those of you who attended the October 9th fifth annual feeding passco edly breakfast I am honored to serve on that board and have been since I first got elected in 2014 um we were able to raise $45,000 that's great um just the small board uh you know Rich Hayes and Nikki and then Kim price and her team thank you for everything you do we truly couldn't get this done without them um so just thank you all I know a few of you were there know the other ones that weren't there supported and a big crowd just want to say thank you that was the best we we um honored Alice delgardo you know who effect of November 1st is the new you um volunteer way CEO I believe that's when she starts so it's pretty exciting to see her there to um you know following Lester's footsteps but yes uh yes he is okay um it was a great turnout again it's great to an hour and a half time raise that kind of money for our seniors so thank you and then I had an opportunity to fish I know for those of you that know I do like to fish um on October 4th and the sheriff's fishing for families tournament they were able to raise 50,000 um that that morning which you know goes to right here in Pasco County to the K9 their K9 deal the warrior fund Sunrise of Pasco and the Trilby initiative so I just wanted to let you know as two things we're able to do in October that are doing great things here in Pasco County so that I am done that's good thank you so I'm going to he by nominate commissioner Mariana thank you thank you Mr chairman I'm going to hereby nominate commissioner Wells to join hopefully all of us for uh our

firefighter gar Garcia that lost his his baby um Trinity Road I mean Wesley chaper Ro just did a great event I we were I couldn't get back in time for we flew in like 9:30 at night yeah we had a great yeah so awesome awesome job again what you guys are doing out there but I think it's something I'd like to see all five of us get together on this uh the shrimp and crabfest has agree to make uh to help them with uh donations through that weekend I I'll get I'll get the verbiage in exactly how we're going to do it but I think it'd be good if we all like aligned it'll be a big event give us a time to raise some money and hopefully it can help that family out uh it's going to be I think in the last week in February I'll get the dates coming up cool he's he's running for four years out there he's done a great job and there's another event he's going to help us with too that's going to direct money to them to to help them out that' be great um and I'd like like to say uh you know for the public comment this morning about green key uh staff did a phenomenal job they went out there and found out these areas that were like next to a canal there were culs there but what was happening is on a high tide situation the water would flow in so they decided to go put some pipes with a fla valve on it so that on a high tide when it's high tides come in and blocks it but a low tide it can flow out that'll keep some of the roadways from flooding out there uh the lady that lives on status way I I talked with her uh we I went went to her house look at where the water was flowing staff's working on the situation right there I'm going to work with them to go bring the neighborhood watch group in with a meeting with me with storm water and code enforcement and I'm going to look to set up a sweep like we've done in our other neighborhoods too and do a big sweep out there as well um last thing you saw the people from the lynx Golf Course show up today uh I told them we were working on it didn't know when it was going to come about but I wanted the board to see how important it is to those folks coming forward I told them we had looked at Seal's ordinance as well as Winter Gardens ordinance and would like the sual one the best uh the County Attorney is working on it but uh Mr Stein Senator about at what point from what you see today and I think we'll get the full support of the board how quick can we bring this forward so my office will prioritize anything the way the board wishes so this was first brought up based on my notes on September 3rd it was there were other things stacked in front of it if this is a board priority we can move it forward the I the I can't support the ordinance that was developed by Winter Garden that's fine um so seminal the SE the seminal County ordinance is not a golf course ordinance but in in fact it is very similar to the ordinance that you've already got on the

books um the difference being [Music] they have an 8 in standard you have a 12in standard and they don't exempt acre anything larger than an acre so with those two changes are relatively simple if that's the desire of the board um you know it it could be introduced at the next meeting but I don't know that I I certainly don't want to get in the in the position of bringing the ordinance forward for introduction and not having the board on that page with me so what what was what was discussed this morning when the folks came here uh the association came here they had probably 40 people with them or so uh and I just wanted to let let us know that this was important to them and I wanted the board to know it so we could tell the County Attorney if we wanted to move it forward to go move it forward so was that's why we said I don't know that's where they've closed down that go I know and when a a golf course closes down it's because they have any money so I don't know how you expect them to or at least at what level you expect them to keep running their business uh when they're closed so um be careful what you ask for because they're going to Something's something different's going to happen if the if if they're out of money there's no money to mow it you know well and and some in Old County had dealt with this issue and they still deal with it and sometimes you know different things happen but at least they maintained it to that to that level and that's what the the main goal is we don't have Coyotes out there I think they had six or8 Ines 8 in standard mean so the whole Golf Course to maintain it correct and that's that's all they did and then they they had took the Alternatives and I will tell you one of the things that I'd like us Tak a look at is you know we we raised our prices up on reclaim water for the golf courses and I think it's something we need to relook at because you know I've heard it from every single one from from Seven Springs to Timber M greens um that it's it's bother bothersome for them to pay that extra money so I think we need to kind of relook at that cuz golf courses they do provide storm water they do set up neighborhoods and give you an example one home that was going through the sale process when they found out the golf was going to shut shut down the people withdraw the sale withdrew the sale they had to go back and they they had to drop the price $30,000 so try to imagine every gulf course property dropping down 30 grand it's a big effect on the whole tax base so there's a lot of value to look at this but the seminal County on ordinance Lee Constantine showed it to me um we had a conversation one of the one of our board meetings and he brought the idea up um to to go forward he said it's worked very well for that County so I'd be happy to talk to the county attorne a little bit more better than

keeping it maintained as a golf course yeah no yeah we're looking for that just just sew its mode so you keep the the rats down the coyotes and snakes and all that stuff out so if I can work with the county att's office you guys make it a priority I'm happy to talk with them about it and I have I in fact have talked to the seol county attorney uh Brian Applegate uh who serves on the state board with me um he indicated that they almost never proceede and mow things themselves which I think is part of the administrator's heartburn is if the resources that it will take to if you're going to treat a golf course the same way you're treating an overgrown lot um that's a losing propos that's been a losing proposition for us and and I don't have a problem with an with taking enforcement action against somebody who doesn't maintain maintain their property but and really it's that's for the administrator to speak to but I'm not sure that the resource you're going to have to dedicate a whole lot more resources to code enforcement if you're going going to also take on the maintenance responsibility that these golf courses are going to present to you um the other if I could if I could jump on that for a second so keep this in mind less than a mile away he owns another Golf Course right there if he was going to get fined probably going to happen he's probably going to go Mowing and not not be a burden for us he's not going to want to pay the fine the other comment I wanted to make which which I hadn't heard from the conversations that had come before the day and and hadn't really thought about which I don't know that seminol County's ordinance will cover is the storm water issue if in fact the storm water system is integral to the residential development we may have to take a d now we can turn them into Swift Mud because they would be the on andm entity for those ponds but that's not a component that this ordinance will help us with I just hadn't thought of that and Frank Frankly the Winter Gardens one wouldn't either um but that's an issue that probably needs to be baked a little bit before I bring something back okay I I just want to get get the board to support movement it forward that's all thank you so where we stand but but but um the county attorney and I have had this discussion that there needs and I'm a big believer in this ranking system otherwise we just would all be climbing all over each other to get our special projects done first there needs to be in order and so what whatever that order is we need to follow it and so it used to be tier one tier two tier three like where the heck are my chicken um don don where the commissioner's chicken understanding there a tier three there was that guy used to come and talk about the pigeons yeah oh oh that those pigeons are a thing but um so you know we need

to have a structure and we need to see if if we're pushing this one what other one does it push back so I don't want to we need to have a system that's kind of what I'm other issues and and as I explained to the commissioner the tier one tier 2 tier three scenario is Land Development code which is generally being managed by development services I am at this point getting enough ordinances that are not yeah in the Land Development code that we're going to have to do some something to manage the those ordinances as well um because I've only got so many lawyers that I can dedicate to this and includ including myself and so let us see what ordinances you're working on cuz I don't even know okay let's let us rank them and Don I would like to see what's going on in your place and and I'd like to see a timeline of what ordinances are coming out of your office because answer we have no idea what's seems like some things are really taking a long time right I think commissioner you're referring to the Strategic ordinance framework that we talked Nar P's planning and development that we talked about back in April um actually at the November 5th meeting we're going to bring forward or at least bring to the attention of the board County Commissioners the framework itself and then we're going to set the some PRI coming up in November and December I'm going to be meeting internally with the department heads um from other departments like utilities engineering Public Works um Parks Etc to identify that priority list that we've previously talked about okay that'd be good and I I want a PRI list I want timelines with it realistic timelines cuz we're just kind of like floating out here in space without any idea when anything's going to come no right thanks so I can so I will if if Planning and Development are going to bring that forward on November 5th I will also have a list for you of of the ordinances that are inhouse and that the County Attorney is directly working on it'll be a much shorter list than theirs okay that it I'll set this thank you okay Mr Kabal actually yes uh Dan uh on on behalf of Dan wanted to publicly acknowledge and thank Nicole uh Nicole is uh unfortunately leaving us she's going to a great position in the private sector but we want to thank her for her service it's been it's been well done so also then acknowledge Tracy wolf who will be taking over her uh position full-time as well so Trac that's all you have that's all I had sir back up quter Mr Ste Snider and on top of that they've stole my receptionist as the agenda coordinator so the clerk needs to watch out because that's the way this goes is I look for somebody her Department got a problem that's all thank you okay wait did you see that big

settlement in Ohio what opioid opioid oh yeah just for those two counties $260 million that's put Dar big Madam clerk yes I do I have something um our office held uh two community events recently and um just wanted to brag about that a little bit because uh it's it's nice to be able to give back um we had operation green light on October the 12th which was Saturday so we opened our office from um 8:30 until 4: and we worked with the tax collector's office uh to reinstate um individuals licenses so when you come to our office it's usually not the best day of your life you're in a pretty tough spot and sometimes um you don't have the money to be able to pay to get back up on your feet so during this um operation Greenlight we um we offer to wave The Collection fee which is 25% which is pretty significant amount to allow people to pay their court cost and finds that their delinquent on and we had we assisted 10048 customers in person wow and 75 over the phone wow and we um 177 of those paid in full that day uh 83 entered into a payment plan and 96 uh driver's license were eligible for reinstatement so it was a it was a great day and um on uh just last week on um October 18th we took part in uh operation standown and we held veterans court and veterans court is just a beautiful way to show uh various government entities coming together for the betterment of our community so we worked with uh Circuit Judge Shan crane the Sheriff's Office the state attorney's office the public defender office and of course the wonderful uh one community who holds the entire event and we did hold veterans court there to allow veterans to get back on their feet because you know they have um you know they have issues coming out of you know the war crisis and and trying to help and assist them and they have lots of services there so we assisted 26 veterans a total of 79 cases and nearly $45,000 were waved in court costs and fees to get them back on their feet and there were a total of 19 either IDs or driver's license that were reinstated that day for them to be able to get back um into driving and working and then of course they had a bunch of um um programs there to help them further so it was two great um days and I just wanted to talk about that good EXC thank you anyone else have anything so I don't have anything I appreciate everybody being here and at this time we will will a [Music] journ