09.03.19 Pasco BOCC Meeting

[Music] [Applause] [Music] good morning everyone I would like to call to order of the Pasco County Board of the County Commissioner meeting of September 20th 2019 I would like to remind everyone present to please silence all electronic devices at this time I would like this everyone to please rise for the invocation their pledge o merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts [Music] madam please call the district to Commissioner here district three commissioners Starkey here District four Commissioner Wells district five Commissioner Mariano here district one chairman Oakley here now as we proceed with the public um agenda public comment for public hearing items are taken during those individuals public areas items pertaining to the ten o'clock a.m. meeting this morning of the UCC regular board meeting those would be heard at that time individual speaker will get beginning three minutes to speak after stating your name and address with the clerk located on the podium will start the timer located on the phone will start countdown after two minutes one beep will sound the light will change from green to yellow you will then only have one minute left after the timer is is uh two beats for sale and the timer will change from yellow to red indicating the three minutes you have speakers are up and you should finish your comments starting with item p1 madam clerk proof yes p1 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 9th 2019 morning good morning commissioners my name is Juanita Arnold senior project manager Public Works before you you have the resolution establishing an equivalent residential unit er you and the ER you for the stormwater management utility system as you may remember in June 2019 the preliminary rate was television $95 and that information was used to go to the trip ah today we're bringing you the final resolution establishing the same amount that we had in the train and in last year for $95 and the square footage will remain the same two thousand eight hundred and ninety square feet the total value of the assistant that we are planning to collect is around twenty six million dollars I don't have a sign-up sheet does anyone here now I just want to speak to Pete one no one who signed I see no one Zeca him okay we've got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye thanks thank you p2 item p2 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 9th 2019 good morning Justin grant more public infrastructure Thank You mr. resolution establishing the final nine ad valorem assessment for the Williamsburg West mstu

currently the mstu was created in 1994 2018 assessment was at a hundred and five for building a lot by the 2019 assessment remains unchanged at the same rate total of the value of the assessment is twenty four thousand four hundred sixty-five dollars is the board require presentation for the second no no okay I don't have anyone signed up is there anyone in the audience wish to speak to Pete to see the mover boo second we have a motion a second for approval all those in favor say aye motion passed b3 item p3 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 9th 2019 this is for the Quail Hollow MSB you this MSB was created 2003 the 2018 assessment for this area was $35 per proof parcel we have met with the Valhalla advisory board they recommend an increase in the assessment by $40 that takes the 2019 assessment to $75 per household and matches what was listed on the trim total value the assessment is seventeen thousand seven hundred dollars to support required presentation on the chairman question yes ma'am so the Advisory Board the citizen advisory board recommended that increasing assessment themselves that is correct yes as a result in increased landscaping cost okay increase on landscaping cause thank you yeah there's anyone here from the audience to speak to p3 see you know one blue purple second got a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye opposed like sign emotional passed before I don't p4 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 10 2008 een a good morning commissioners encircle the world Public Works this is for the Fox Ridge MSP you the intent is to provide funding for drainage and pippin improvements the first phase of drainage improvements have been completed on the budget by Public Works team excess monies would be rolled over for future projects the second phase is to just speeding and the third phase is suggest a larger scale drainage on issues however efforts to have a majority directive from all property owners have not been successful just a little bit of history in 2018 Fox Ridge assessment was adopted at $450 for eru in 2019 in the preliminary it was that appeared on the trim notice was for 3095 to accelerate the second phase of the project which is the paving at the August 9 v 2019 public meeting there was a lack of consensus consensus regarding the future of both the second and third phases the execution of the third phase will require drainage study and staff would be coordinating and cooperating with see the seeking cooperative funding from Swift mud which is our Southwest water florida management system we have three alternatives here in terms of the assessment the first option is to establish them is the assessment at the trim notice rate of three thousand ninety five dollars the second option is to establish it at the 2018 level of 450 thousand seventy six cents per er you and the third option is to establish the assessment at zero dollars for 2019 and obtain a

majority directive from the property owners the directive will include a plan of action to be used as a basis for a future assessment staff is recommended option three zero dollar assessment machine yeah so let me do a little more background if we could on this a little bit I won't get it in the weeds too much but been working with staff and talking to another number of residents obviously when they got their trim notice and solved three thousand and ninety five dollars they were very shocked as I was because I wasn't aware of it has my nose that was that that was established either so you know we had you know obviously obviously hundred hundreds of emails and calls that came to our office having to get with staff and I think going forward as we all talked was making sure that we have these community meetings well in advance so a mistake like this doesn't obviously happen again again talking with the team a tough little staff what needs to happen in my opinion and they and micro ball and the team agrees on this now is that we would go with option three zero zero assessments for this year they need they need to come up with a new plan in a toe they meet with the residents again once this is finalized and come up with that plan and decide how they're going to move forward with the residents whether we do something very similar to an advisory board like the Quail Hollow has which seems to be going very well now or some other means of making sure that the residents voices are heard as a collaborative group but not everybody's gonna agree we know that unfortunately but we need to have a large majority in agreement so definitely one my opinion you know with option three because you can't just put money aside we don't have a claim you know you don't know what you're gonna do with the money can I use this example a little while ago if I go to the store I'm not going to give somebody five dollars and hope I walk out with something right so I know we need to have public comment anybody wants to speak but my recommendation is going to be with option three yeah so what the level that maybe you said it and it didn't sink any levels servers not up for 58 well what was that big depart that was for the first phase of project there were three phases one is road related ranges second would be the road improvements and the third was the day larger Basin during the job improvement and have you finished phase one yes and so now you so the roads need to be improved yes and if you were to collect the 458 this year would that not start that wouldn't be sufficient I don't snot sufficient but you'd start building it kid because you know you're not well just the answer that wants it there is also close to a million dollars in excess sitting there they have to decide what they're going to do with whether that goes toward another project or its return to the residence and that's one of the reasons that again going back option three to in my opinion is a good idea for now have that time

spin it with the residents try to get the co-operative funny because we can get proper cooperative funding obviously that's gonna bring that assessment down so again there will to fix the roads court will know you went in for a drainage is your this would be a long conversation we can have it I would suggest maybe talking with staff because this is a very long conversation which you not to know you need to go back in history and what's all going on there it would take quite some time but again we'll be have this we know this excess dollars how is that gonna be utilized if any right whether it be it goes back to the residents or moves forward with the project and most of the residents and I've spoken with the majority hi large majority have spoken with and what staff heard when they're at the meeting even there was 100% consensus that the majority wanted to make sure this other phase of the drainage was done first because the fear is you know that water continues to get on these roads that's going in to damage the roads and you're gonna come back five years after that and trying to fix it once again unless you do you want to wait you know well it's not as much waiting because you don't know where the money's gonna come gonna be so I don't want to say it's waiting it's going out in and obviously doing the right thing and coming up with another plan because things have now changed things chairman Thank You Commissioner more especially being so involved with it my first look at it was I thought we should at least keep it to the fore 5876 but and you say we've been doing this we've got phase one done they get a million in excess right now I'm gonna try to go with coopera funding which is a great idea because that gets twice the value of the money I think I think it's a good plan I think we can't wait if their residents will obviously wait for them but I'm comfortable that you've explained it so thank you all right this is public hearings from I have another one signed up for this item is reading the audience would like to speak for this item come forward state your name and address morning my name is Chris Estelle I'm a for 209 red coat drive in Wesley Chapel I just moved into the Fox Ridge area a few years ago and I just want to reiterate that oh yeah I see that there's a lot of money about a million dollars in excess sitting out in the fund so I just want to make sure that there's a clear plan for this with the drainage and then the roads that we're just not sitting on anything so I haven't is my first time being to a meeting just want to make that clear that just need a plan I think that's the biggest thing planned milestones timelines and let's let's let's work together to get this done I think we just that's that's just where we want to see his residence so thank you very much for your time motion passed mr. chairman just doesn't yeah we'll follow up on that too I think there was a there's a question if there was an HOA no it was a old road in bridge district just for the record which the counties were forced to

let her state got rid of them I think mr. Stanzler could actually yeah this was the Pasco Heights bridge district you were given a directive from one of the legislative committees that it needed to be dissolved was our recommendation to do the MSB you because it that well that the problem was that that the road and bridge district had not done the improvements that they were supposed to have done over the years and there was no funding source to pick up the liabilities for this area that was the place it was rotor breaks not HOA not a CVT okay b5 be fine for demolition in the Tampa Bay Times on August 14 2019 good morning John power solid waste director u.s. CW 19 - 11:30 - resolution by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida establishing annual disposal Sussman's tipping fees and other rates fees and charges for funding solid waste disposal resource recovery system pursuant to pass McKenna coordinates chapter 90 article 3 authorizing preparation of annual disposal assessments role and preparation of appropriate bills no funding require this is a public hearing anyone here would like to speak to this I know one thing I had a motion in a second for approval all those papers they I pass okay that that ends the public hearing here then we started at 9 o'clock we will reconvene our regular meeting at 10 o'clock so we're adjourned at this time [Music] where the Pasco County Board of County Commission meeting of September 3rd 2019 I would like to remind everyone at this time to please silence all electronic devices and if you would please rise for the invocation in place Oh a merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the need of every living creature make us thankful for your loving Providence and grant that we remembering the account that we may suppose one day give may be faithful steward some of your good gifts amen [Music] please call the roll district to Commissioner Moore here district 3 Commissioner Starkey here district 4 commissioner wells here district 5 Commissioner Mariano here district want chairman Elizabeth yeah now's the time for public comment citizens were given opportunity to comment on coming before the board okay any item coming for the border County Commissioner Turia this public comment section board also takes public comment on items placed on a future board agenda or other business under their reviews public comment to to publicly for public hearing items will be given that 1:30 p.m. individual speaking during public comment three minutes to speak after stating your name and address for the clerk the timer at the podium will will start a countdown after two minutes one beat what's the help the light will change from green to yellow letting you know that you have one minute remaining after the timer is two beats for sale light will change from yellow to red indicating three minutes or up in this

town before we go vamanos well we have a sheet of people wanting to speak at public comment it's played off your Center cactus all right is anyone in the audience wish to speak the type of comment see no one will move on to consent items have the following items items pools seat 34 withdrawn c8 pulled and revised see 28 withdrawal see 45 withdraw see 21 withdraw see 43 we've drawn accept emotion for the second got emotional secretary accept all items and stand except for the Bulldogs all those in favor say aye okay or see 34 is the draw we go there see 8 good morning David Engel office of economic growth see 8 is a 150 mm $20 loan to the point distillery on little road and there's been three revisions the promissory note has one exhibit which will be the ammeter is a ssin and debt repayment schedule and the first mortgage instrument has one exhibit which is the actual deed description of the property the third revision is in the agenda memo there was a request that the chair executed an agreement but because this is this loan will be fully repaid by the borrower there's no need for an economic incentive agreement so there's no agreement to be signed I just want to say the point distillery was a facility that was built a few years back the people in there invested a lot of money into it and that sat for probably six seven eight nine years point the stories come in doing some great things down there really revamping the product and I'll tell you what he first got here he didn't have a real positive attitude what how will you be entry he wanted to try to get some attention so David myself a few others from EDC went down and I want to say David you have turned this thing into such a positive thing he's exciting is going to employ fifteen new people with this provision and the products are gonna have Pasco County or at least New Port Richey Florida on them all the way through as they go down the state but top quality product and thank you for what you did turning this guy around me task was a great place to do business thank you well there's been a lot of people involved and I wanted to point out the 15 potential new jobs because of this loan they'll be originated through the Pasco Hernandez Hernando work reentry program that's funded by the BCC so that's a real positive thing and I wanted to acknowledge Troy Jackson in the economic growth office who brought that all together they gonna be putting any landscaping in that I remember him coming in and saying that that area was didn't look as nice as perhaps it could do you know there there are no landscaping plans with the use of these funds are basically for equipment they bought the label machine that they that the board allowed them to have money associated with a loan in January and they're buying some additional equipment for manufacturing yeah we could even get him some crepe myrtles or some trees from forty-something there's nothing on that property nothing would be nice to elevate the look at that little thing

yes ma'am all right I have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye all those like Sam motion passed thank you that concludes the consent agenda good morning commissioner my name is saya me building construction services and this scope the scope of our work today is my presentation is the is based on the IG audit of the processes related to the assessment calculation and collection of mobility-impaired fees for commercial properties and the mobility fee overview is story clean one develop Maryville tech was dedicated to assessing Empire fees but now a development of a technician assessed the fees and the second development review technician Ali refused and science of all the fees we are currently working on changes to the land development code to make it both easier to use and understand process improvements have taken place and continue to take place as issues identified standard operating procedures have been created and updated to reflect the current practices and this is the chart that shows updates on deny audit comments identified and you can see that almost all of it is completed conclusion we initially use the fast food category in determining the mobility fee charged for dunkin donuts but that was incorrect and the customer was actually overcharged 48 percent and that money was refunded when it was challenged we provided permits that was asked for for it that generated impact fees so the City Clerk's office and we didn't has enough questions to make sure that all the permits whether it requires impacts were provided so we've attached those suda2 desire for this purpose and during our conversion to a seller permitting database we transition from a 50-year old mainframe operating systems now currently we've put in place checks and balances that delete development review technician does random audits monthly and lots these audits which are reviewed by the central permitting manager and the action plans clarify the land development code to make it both easier to use and understand feature requests for information we will spend additional time reviewing the request and ask more questions so as to make sure that we're both on the same platform checks and balances has been put in place the lead development buta conducts monthly random audits and she loads these audits and this is reviewed by both the central permitting manager and myself central per million has updated standard operating procedure to reflect what is currently in is in place our frontline staff now much and verified addresses with legal descriptions so as to avoid inconsistencies and errors we are continuously training our frontline staff to further reduce errors and inconsistencies estra thank you very much for the presentation I'm glad you're addressing the comments someone you know asked me now and then about going in for permitting and all those steps are involved in heaven if we had like a checklist to go through do we have like a checklist let's say

someone's gonna come in to certain area they want to go build something and then these fees is gonna be coming up do we have like a form that they could see what these fees are and I know what segregates to a certain area but if you have like the four different zones if it's for that we have a separate thing to say okay here's what the charges are gonna be so you can be ready for him can we have something like that to hand out to people when they come in yes we do okay yeah this impact speeds for each area market area and we really do and we hand it over to let them know so someone watching they get that for me is that for the premium they get it in pre-op because zoning actually puts the sympathy in place we only just implemented but also when they come in we give it to them because this fees are not do you want to see us issued like since you brought that up we had a meeting about how some fees are not collected until you have a what you just call it co-ceo but if you're doing a development that doesn't require a CEO then those fees are not collected so we improve that process that we uncovered yes those process had already been improved on because at spree up every every property or every permit is going to go through free up that is new and if it is discovered then that there is no CO or CC certificates of completion then this the impact is assessed adds at that point perfect I think you really have something Victoria's PTO's planning development just to confirm I was able to go back I know you had posed the question a few weeks ago Commissioner the at the site development review permit a an assessment is made for our mobility piece for example to be assessed when a project wasn't even proceed to building permit stage okay it just was a little glitch that we uncovered that we hadn't considered fit it was an easy fix any other questions or the questions we have oh do we have to approve it there's nothing to approve it's just an update I'll give a couple updates and some things going on with tourism we got the room nights and from the tourists too hot for ice roller hockey I'm tournament 2019 there one hundred one thousand seven hundred and sixty one room nights because of that tournament so it's really really strong 161 teams last year there was one thousand seven hundred and five room nights so we went up by 50 56 room nights so that's going stronger outside the opportunity to speak on the P on the panel for the team of a mobility Alliance transportation panel at T ia on August 22nd in representative Paso County on the regional transportation panel was hosted by again the Tampa Bay mobility Alliance had cede the CEOs of Pinellas and Hillsborough transit agencies along with the T Barda executive director and a transportation engineer that worked in the mobility Alliance on it probably a little over 100 people from the region obviously talked about a lot of great things they're going on to Paso County and kerning you know obvious in the road

projects including the vertical dive at 56th it's big since 56 extension obviously they would like to hear about connected city so we did talk about that talked about how much I enjoy the scooters it's good well I'll tell you a funny story and so so we first wrote those in San Antonio Texas it was neat about that when we got there we saw all this would be fun this would be a little you know just fun to cruise on the scooters for the next three days that was like literally our mode of transportation we never gotten an uber or lyft the whole time over there we did this literally drove the scooters to the Alamo yeah well to and fro yeah yeah we determined to the airport they frowned upon getting on the highway but it was it was most enjoyable and but we did see people using them to get back and forth to work people in suits so guys at gals at construction hats going back and forth from job sites so it wasn't just the tourism aspect of things and the tourists using him people that live there and work there use them on a daily basis so we use them we took them around downtown Tampa an eboard not too long ago and my wife would never say to the sales pavilion on Sunday we really enjoyed this again so went on Amazon with monorail so you figured give the cost of what it takes to you know whether I won't name the brands but whatever brain that may be and we kind of looked at the numbers real fo you know returned our investment here pretty quick and we can cruise around them and in our neck of the woods to some of the think about you know it's very obviously past with county being more unique situation and not having that there's high density areas like the downtown talking some of the folks at the Mobile Alliance were like whoa where could you do scooters there so I mean I suggested and talked to the people in the cities though right so you have downtown before Richie you got Dade City in Zephyrhills there's possibilities there I'll leave it up to the City Council's and the mayor's there that they see if that's something they're interested in and then some communities you know you're allowed there I always already have golf course and lots of communities Communion I I live and you can and I think we also know that the governor signed off on that was it I think was was it a bill I guess was a pill right that says that those are legal across the state of Florida so I know mr. Steiner if you follow that at all but you can actually says you can they're they're free rein now across the state unless you have accordance that says different so I just went in DC seas and it was like get uber for a couple just got done with Governor Scott as the last thing to be afternoon amber says let's go take a scooter it was like it's awesome way we went the next day the whole family went around we did all the DC the Potomac come back and it was pretty cool yeah it's pretty good anything they move in it you know they're they're around everywhere so you just pop right on it but when we got now

you can fold up throwing your shoulder and take her every year yeah so that was a great then mayor Christman from obviously from the city of st. Pete he was the keynote and then our we were on the panel thank staff from the hard work over the weekend obviously everybody coming on the phone calls keeping us up-to-date we'll continue to keep our fingers crossed I'm sure we'll have more updates on this later but I did I did when a recognized staff for all the great work that they're doing and it's been where everybody's been working around the clock and the citizens appreciate it too and it's always better to be prepared and not be prepared just one more thing on September 20 s you want to mark your calendars September 20th 10 a.m. we're going to have the groundbreaking already for the universally inclusive playground so that's moving forward very very quickly so September 20th 10 a.m. obviously have already contacted the people that participated and they will be there amongst maybe some other folks and this may be done sir them later you could possibly see this be done by December which is really strong oh there's good chance well as the weather cooperates yeah I will continue to build an apartment sir yes September 20th 10 a.m. what's the chapel district you remind us of that at all times yeah I will continue to build things again oh I will I will continue to build things at the park in your district for you no it's a lot of great things and I appreciate all that you're doing out there you you know those folks you're close to them and yeah I certainly appreciate all the work yeah I was obviously again everything there was a rights by the people that were brought in obviously no better in this area that it was the right fit for what's going on there especially in the future with the with the rec center go in go hand-in-hand with some of the future things there'd be going on there so we're excited about that so with that I am done thank you Miss Parker I would like to announce it on September 17th I'm holding a town hall at the Holy Trinity Church which is kind of 54 and 41 haven't had one there in a long time so I've got staff in the sheriff's office coming out we'll talk about transportation and and other things there that's at 6:30 and we have scheduled right now for September 19th lectures on the lawn but because of the hurricane stuff we postponed for a week getting information out and I'm a little concerned that two weeks notice is not enough to do marketing on that event so we are looking today at maybe changing that but right now on the schedule is September 19th lectures on the lawn we're having back dr. Michael Francis who's the world's expert on Florida's colonial colonial history and its relationship with Spain and he is rewriting history every year with st. Augustine and the first the first community in the United States and it's he's just a fascinating speaker he is the Huff

family chair down at USF and so if we don't move that I hope you can come out on September 19th and listen to dr. Michael Francis we also have a musician and a food truck I don't know what food truck it is I don't have much either I just want to make sure I thank staff again I know from the beginning before these storms we've been more proactive than we ever have I mean I've got updates all weekend every couple of hours from staff checking levels I mean these these men and women are working their butts off to make sure that the residents you know don't don't see the impacts they could if they didn't do it and I'd also like to thanks the Sheriff's Office I know they they were able to get their team out there and help clear up some areas that flow out of Lake Worrell so I just want to publicly say thank you for that every we really appreciate it so that's it thank you thank you mr. chairman I'm gonna pass these Flyers down about ordinance for golf courses but I'll talk about something else as you get that and I think the team did a phenomenal job for the hold emergency situation the stormwater guys were just on top of every pump that had to be set up and refueled and no neighborhood that it was set up with someone under water and that's you know quite an achievement and it got close a couple of times when it was gonna happen so what they did Mike you know you'll team Dan is just phenomenal every step of the way they could probably look at you know we put the value to what they actually do by not keeping homes flooded and what they do it might be time to take a look at some of them guys that are out in the field and maybe get moment raised coming up I mean it's that impressive to what it saves the citizens for grief and worry and the emergency team that the phone calls a great the organization is rock-solid kanpei were where we were years ago to where we are now is just leaps and bounds so it's really impressive to see the whole team working together the audence I just put it in front of you it's kind of an email first from Dominic's Cannavino from he's president of Kona him and I talked with the president of the estate's over the links golf course and we're trying to find out what can we do to make they have them maintain the golf course better and they went around look him and they found one from Winter Lake it gave it kind of gave a copy to the county attorney earlier so I'd like him to go take a look at this review this and kind of like bring back a recommendation is this good should we look at the cost Dan mentioned it cost to me as it may be worried about actually trying to get this done in the flaws but I think it's at least it's one of what and so it was out there they went out and actually found it so I think it's worth a discussion because when people buy homes on a golf course and they're expecting it to be a golf course and it's a big part of the integral part of the stormwater situation that they should be maintained

at least while someone makes a decision what they want to do to protect the people that's all have Thank You commissioner just is a brief update we're still waiting and watching for that storm to move north west and the north and the Northeast it last thing I saw and I just looked again it's crawling at about 1 mile an hour so we're still watching and we're so propped in case it doesn't do what everybody thinks it's gonna do and so we're we got I think the EOC is a modified level 2 right now watching the storm and ready to call public works and everybody else so we're still prepped in case that doesn't do what everybody thinks it's gonna do yeah but until I think it's north of us we're gonna be in that situation so at least for a couple more days watching it so with that we are starting to get requests to tee up teams to be kind of ready to respond to the east side of the state and so we have a strike team that's been postured in Orlando right now on the fire side and I think we have one or two people getting teed up to go up and help an emergency ops center in Tallahassee to help their staff and so as usual when it doesn't strike here Pasco reaches out and helps others as needed and whether it's us to the sheriff's office of some other areas we we jump on those things so we can help our neighbors out they aren't that are impacted just like we did last year and some other thing so you'll be seeing those but I think right now we're kind of just in a watching in weight mode and hopefully that storm passes us and on the track or maybe a little east of the track that they're predicting now and so we'll get out of that but you mind there's four other systems out there in the Atlantic Basin right now so we are in the hot time of year and for the next sixty or so days we're gonna be pretty busy watching that stuff so and that's that's all I have sir I recently saw a post from Senate Fasano tax collected penalties Auto the email talked about the patient a program with someone's taxes went from like two thousand to five thousand dollars and that bill was gonna be stuck there for 30-some odd years I think we should take another look at this program because if they're taking advantage of seniors and major things that happen into a negative way I think it's it's it's something needed to go take a look at it I know he's very frustrated with the program so I think it's worth the discussion that we have coming up as maybe an agenda item do go take a look at mr. chair Dennis respond so we're working on an ordinance right now that's going to help address that and work with the County Attorney's Office just so you know myself and Andy and Tim just to make you aware what's going on obviously it's not ready for primetime so but Andy can you explain yes sir faint Thank You commissioner Andy Taylor legislative aide to Commissioner Moore for the record we've been working with Tim on senator Fasano staff for a while and and some of the stakeholders has not gone to the County Attorney's Office yet but we're getting

input on some of the language and and how we want that to love to come back to the board eventually there's some really good ideas but again we wanted to make sure that was ready for your review first without getting into the weeds too much if you're okay with that we're close some really good ideas because I agree with your concerns I know everybody's talked about it here like you're seeing like you mentioned was some of these poor folks not poor folks as I've you know poor as in these poor people we're happy to deal with this double pay slow know that AC unit and they'll come and have a pace you loan on you know maybe a roof and they're never gonna pay it off I mean let's just be honest and then so when you're doubled up sometimes and they're not looking at some of these pace providers you know they're not doing their due diligence with these people can even pay for it so if you give me just some time with you none of us you know it's just as I saw the poster I just got a really read I called them I'm glad you brought it up yeah and you've respected sunshine like as you tell me anything exactly that's why would it it's tricky bring that out no that's okay we're not we're not too far off I don't think it needs to go to the county attorney's office for the review once we get done with it and I think it's something that could actually possibly be used all over the state to if we do it the right way all right close to ready that's even that's a great idea cool thanks I have a question account attorney okay and then one more item um where are we on the opioid lawsuit I are we gonna get an update on that just seeing the settlements that have just occurred in the last few weeks thank you I've gotten a call from mr. magazine just before the storm who indicated that there were some things in the works but I can always ask them to come in and do a briefing they want to do it as a litigation assessment meaning they do not want to do it in the public because of some of the orders that have come out from the federal judge they are there is another action which is currently scheduled for trial in the multi district litigation for October not sure whether that's going to go forward or not but it's all still in a big state of flux and what some of what you're hearing is the attorney general's are in a different lawsuit than the city county and local governments are and those two are not consistent but we can bring let me talk to outside counsel and see what the best package is to to brief you all I can I can share confidentially the confidential memos memo that I got last week with you all so long as you know it's not a public record it's confidential and you can't discuss it I just wondered where we were um the other thing I wanted to bring up this is we have plenty of time with I wasn't here for that meeting but I read about the discussion and I just wanted to voice my opinion and

see where the board is on the the underwater the under-19 sidewalk because I read that there was some discussion that maybe knew at least one person in Newport which you may not want to continue with that project since there may not may not be allowed to have golf golf carts on that but I would disagree with that I think we should move forward with that with that sidewalk underneath the bridge I think that is a whether you can walk or ride your bike on it it's still a crate economic driver for that area and we should still be looking at it mr. chairman yeah to begin to be clear I don't know if the way words come up clear enough last time but I clearly want to keep that project moving forward every step of the way and I think mission wells were actually brought to a good point let's go keep on work with Geo T to try to get the golf carts approved but at the same time don't stop that project now they're building as wide as they can under the bridge anyway we can always work to do the tweaks and if we get do to change their mind and go with it as commissioner well says and let's keep it rolling so my understanding is that the person we're gonna have to talk to is the Attorney General because it's the attorney general's office who gave the direction to do tea that they couldn't take the liability of golf carts crossing a state road and that's why golf carts can't cross are not allowed to cross the state road there so but that's underneath so that doesn't but but d-o-t is working off of that Attorney General's ruling so you know I think we need to offer our legislators about that which brings up the point about the scooters as well because right now on a lot of our trails especially if there's one along a state road you cannot put a motorized vehicle on a on some of these sidewalks and trails and and I I think that that's an archaic way of thinking with these hoverboards and scooters and I I think we need to have a policy on our multi-use trails and I have mentioned to the Santa Marta and to the secretary that that these are getting more and more prevalent and they do you just need to be having these discussions statewide because I see when I was standing in front of the election place over in Land O'Lakes 441 or Collier Parkway hundreds of golf carts were coming down the sidewalk to pick up their kids at that school yes and and so it's happening and I just think we should learn how to accommodate them my suggestion at the state to the state was on one side it should be it could be non motorized on the other side could be motorized but there should we just need to start working towards a solution and the county needs to have a policy on our multi-use trails as well and there's electric bikes there they're going through the park technically they're not allowed to be on our trails I used one on my recent vacation i loved-ed yeah oh yeah it's it's a pedal assist but I'm not biking up a mountain I would like down so uh I just think we need to start addressing that policy wise I'm working on that state level

madacorp thank you a couple of weeks ago I attended a meeting in City Hall of Zephyrhills it was spent on the extension of 56 going across 301 across 239 and possibly end up on 98 and one of the main looks that that VOT had was one that would go across 301 and line up with County Line Road at Crystal Springs across 39 over 98 which I thought would be a great thing a great economic power that going into the crystal rings area would create a good road also with drainage which in that area is pretty low and they need help in that brain injuries so I think would be a great project to go that way so and I stated that to FDOT so they're in the process of taking comments on on that extension right now and nothing's been determined yet but that was what I thought would be a great add to our County and especially on that southern area where we have too many issues anyway so those people have a pretty bad problems with flooding other places in our County and we need to try to do everything we can to help each near one of those individuals that it's possible some things we can't help so well we hear about them ever damn so they're there in low areas and it's hard to change when you're the lower area you like a bow where you just stop war from going to the bottle tell me about it yeah I mean we work hard at trying to make things happen to make it better for those folks so second thing is the we've been watching Dorian and and he's done a great job keeping us informed of what's happening and and we got probably knock on wood because exactly which way it's going now but if it continues to the north we've missed a real big bullet and the rest of Florida's missed a big bullet the fact of it is we still need to think about our neighbors in the Bahamas there are some people there that we need to think about he prefers one out for them because there's been surely a loss of life in that area and we need to think about them while they're going through this patch tall they have no place to go all those people brain areas that you know the good good people in the Bahamas they work hard they love Americans coming there helping them and gives them jobs and their economy it works great so we need to keep her arts and prayers out of them go through this terrible storm that's that's pretty Bahamas no pretty bad shape even though we've got things to be happy about if it doesn't that happened here we got another people that are they're put in harm's way that we need to be think about also I know we can't change weather weather climates I wish we could happen but mr. chairman great thank ya on that same note like all of you I'm sure I've been listening to a lot of news and I've been hearing the accolades for Florida's preparation and you know the governor's doing a great job but but I've heard from I've heard other folks who've been through this before say that this time Florida is extremely well prepared and well positioned and I think we can take a little credit for our Kevin being up there and helping them out and I keep

looking for him in any of the briefings I haven't seen him in a few but I have no doubt that Kevin Guthrie has been doing a great job of there helping this state be prepared for forth it for this even if it doesn't come over land toward us it's gonna go up that Coast and there's gonna be a lot of damage I'm glad I don't have a big boat that it's all that cuz I don't think you can get it out of harm's way so there's a lot of folks go have loss of property and of course damage to will have that our entire Coast on that side so on the east side so you've got a heavy prayers heart out for those folks are going through that [Music] final addition another thing is we had the ribbon-cutting for station 38 I'm gonna tell you one thing if I was a firefighter and they bit me in the hip of the owner I wouldn't leave that that's one of the freest Nations I've seen one most martyr probably one of the most modern in the state and they've done a great job you imagine that the bay doors they used to have that would go up and down would be slow moving up and down for a truck to come out the bay doors they have on these new Saints you go like an accordion they go sideways and in seven seconds they're open so this glass so you can see so the first door you must be walking in front of that station see those doors up for you better leave out the way but seven SEC that's very quick in it and it's for a reason so we can respond to our citizens out in the war grass area where it's having in connected city and this service of the new area that that station we have others coming aboard in the future that will be doing the same thing coming in new locations because of the growth that we're having out in that area so we've got a lot to be thankful we've got a guest bathroom cheap casing and staff and everybody that the firefighters we have our or our second tune them they do a great job I have a hard time meeting with one that's not a great person that I meet when I meet them they're very humble they help our citizens and they go above and beyond whatever their call of duty years EMS is also the same same way we got a lot to be thanking we're going to adjourn the meeting now and we will reconvene our meeting at 1:30 [Music] [Applause] [Music] good afternoon everyone I would like to call back to word the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners meeting of September 3rd 2019 I would like to remind everyone present to please Sun us all electronic devices now is the time for our public hearings there are two reasoning genders regularly in the Senate staffers resent huge applications of boredom approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for

presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be proved by a single motion invoke if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the long Florida is that near public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code [Music] yes if you're here to speak to the public hearings if you would please stand and raise your right hand to be sworn in do you swear or from the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God thank you we're starting with why it was published in the Tampa Bay Times on July 26 2019 p1 is PDD 1974 to 5 the name of masih partners limited the applicant has requested he continues to the October 7th 2019 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Dade City you will need a motion no it's shown as a continuance on your agenda ok ptoo ptoo was published in Tampa Bay Times July 26 2009 tp2 is PD 19 - see you 40 it's in the name of Arthur J and Dory D visi it's for a private skeet shooting range in an AC district staff is requesting a continuance to the October 7 2009 teen Board of County Commissioners meeting in Davis City really good today October 3 t 3 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on July 26 2019 item p3 SPD 1974 2 1 in the name of Boyett Oaks phase 2 master planning of development JLP property investments LLP it's a rezoning from an MP u D master planning and development to a master plan unit development to allow for 22 single-family detached units on approximately twenty four point zero eight acres this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your packet from the Planning Commission and Planning and Development Department staff mr. chairman could you just pull that I won't have a [Applause] yeah do you want me to go through the presentation or later later or try to pull it off consent yep okay sorry about that though okay thank you before einem Kieffer was published in the Tampa Bay Times on July 26 2019 item P for speedy 1974 to 4:00 in the name of Joshua LLC it's for a rezoning from an agricultural district to a c2 general commercial district with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction to limit the uses for

to only contractor's office and storage on the parcel comes through with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission remain all consent feedback item P 5 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on July 26 2009 key at mp5s PD 19 Cu 46 in the name of Pascal Ranch Inc Bonefish Grill for the sale of alcoholic beverages beer wine and liquor on-premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a restaurant with outside seating and service of alcoholic beverages on a patio and a master Planning and Development District this comes through with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission I have no one signed up to speak to this item you wish to speak against the silent saying no one let it remain on consent v6 was a item p6 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on July 26 2009 teen item p6 is PDD 19 Cu 47 in the name of Pasco Ranch Inc Carrabba's Italian Grill for the sale of alcoholic beverages beer wine and liquor premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a restaurant with outside seating and services service of alcoholic beverages on a patio and a master plan unit Development District comes to with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission again I have no one signed up on to speak against this item do I have anybody in the audience wish to speak against p6 seeing no one let it remain who comes in peace enter item v7 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on July 26 2009 T P 7 SPD d 19 C or 48 in the name of Pasco Ranch Inc Aussie grill for the sale of alcoholic beverages beer wine and liquor on-premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a restaurant with outside seating and service of alcoholic beverages on a patio and a master Planning and Development District this comes to with a recommendation of approval with conditions for the Planning and Development Department in the Planning Commission again I have no one signed up to speak against the side of us or anyone in the audience wish to come this piece against self Sam's PA item p8 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 9th 2019 item pH is PD 19-12 26 this is the transmittal hearing on this item so we will ask today that you authorize transmittal it's a part to the Department of Economic Opportunity and other reviewing agencies for CPA all 1907 Paul materials and is for transmittal to propose large-scale comprehensive plan amendment changing the future land use from I if I made you p9 if it's okay I would like to it's on regular but I would like to read the title and ask if there's any comments if that's all right is there a publication p9 SPD 1912 84 and this is for a comprehensive plant school site consistency review for merry meeting its proposed full site located on the north side of the field Road approximately 1/2

mile east of pearly road and the recommended board action is recommend approval of the proposed school site consistency review finding the site to be consistent as condition in your packet this is just anyone to speed here yeah this one's just anyone to speak it's okay anyone's me don't be mad seeing no one Chris - you don't speak designer not unless you have any questions miss Williams one one eight one five tree breeze drive new port richey three four six five four representing the school district and we agree with staffs recommendation to approve the school site as consistent with the Comprehensive Plan motion one second all those in favor say aye motion passed P 10 P 10 was published in the template times on August 9th 2009 all right yes Justin grant public infrastructure this is returned from a continuance from the seven nine nineteen meeting for low cootchie street street light service area during that meeting the board voted to continue this out we have since okay we we have since complied with Florida State statute and done 197 36:32 that required 20 days worth of notice letters were sent out to all affected members in the community we also had a community meeting in the area in August and met with the community leaders and explained the project along with community development to talk about how the streetlight district came into area what was done and why the assessment is appearing on their tax bill for this this year there are 98 LED lights that have now been installed and energized in the area that results in 230 residential property properties that will be proposed with the street light assessment the initial assessment of the area will be 107 dollars and 83 cents per property lot which includes a remainder of this calendar year plus the next full calendar year subsequent years assessments will be estimated about 80 dollars and 87 cents per property lot and this is a map of the area does the board have any questions regarding yet just been informed we we did received written comment back from our letter I have a letter dated August 14th 2019 from a resident submitting it to record to the clerk you needn't receive a file okay I got a motion second to receive a file all this paper say okay is there anyone here to speak to this item the one in the audience you know one move approval time for somebody there's one yes ma'am come forward then please state your name and address for the record my name is Lillian warming and I'm a dealer coochie and my address is to apply for a Walnut Grove date city water okay I'm concerned about the lighting situation the street lighting I am a light that I haven't had on poles probably since 1963 with the wish you could you like company and I pay every month on it summer of like about six seven dollars and he shines real bright and this light that they just put in it's just a little fraction

from where the post is that I've been had there for years and it doesn't shine too right and I almost know why do I have to pay for another light then I have a light beer at the chronal comment walnut I'm paying been paying for it for years and all my life bill every month I'm paying for it why should I have the people another like that's not even shining as bright as day one yes and that's what I thought I'm the winner and when those taxes and things start coming in they really not to hold him my father so I want to know why should I have to put this there I already have a light well okay mr. chairman yes I think we should get her address and see if she only she only has a light that's provided by the same provider then and it seems like we don't need to put two lights in a safe place and it's the same system but you know let's let's look into it so you you pay for that light individual for yes I don't panic for it when it comes of seven dollars and something a month monthly I mean you know my life really everything so the light we're talking about that's gonna would light up you could do away with the light to have only that you're paying for right now just a little more that one doesn't light up right it's the one I already have oh it's a very dealing light compared to the one hour II think I want to focus like when I'm painting what I'm telling you did you save that monthly fee and you just have a fee for that light that we're providing and that assessment so you see I would have to pay for the light right on yes ma'am why when I already got one the error but you know they look at mine I have to have that one and the money you're paying toward that one could go towards the light this well that's part of the assessment I prefer writing the first night are you painting Wisla coochie yeah monthly final one light yes I doubt that what you would put two lights on the same it's different it's a different light as well yeah it's a different light but it's doesn't shine it's brainy buddy don't have any light the big pay through their Electric Company which overcome the IB be a separate charge than their successful I'm telling ya you could do away with the light you have now and we just have enough reflexes I would rather keep the one that I already have let's shout much brighter mister yes sir maybe we could let her keep the lights you see they're just incorporated into this project that'll be possible yeah I don't think that's the way the assessment works essential for the entire community and that that charge for this assessment of the streetlights that goes to everyone that has lost in that particular well it's not reven you got to pay out of your Texas go come on your tax bill you breathe yeah I understand that but if you do away with the light you're paying for and you're gonna save 90 something dollars and paying that yearly and this

lights they're too light but lighting an assessment lighting that's in a community like it is it's too better that community by lighting up and don't have dark areas on the streets and over tend to cause people not to be doing the wrong thing out and where you got why that's the reason this video protection in your safety that's why it's there you know that's the reason I hate it I quit there because I was running a little small grocery store do anytime and I had to like put them for a safety gear well sing it over a property you know we doing tonight you know if it comes on and when it get dark and it's those eyes oh right thank you for your comments and staff will come out and look at your life all right thing okay thank you that there's man it's a better listen this letters on this particular issue yes should we read this read honey you can bring into the record but I think you ought to finish with public comment before we do that yes ma'am name an address for the poor Sharon Milton one for 6:30 to 21st Street date City I'm here on behalf of my mother that lives up in LA coochie a light was placed right next to the light on her property that you guys assessed to whoever assessed my question is who approved for the lights to be placed where they were placed that's my first question the second question are they finished because the areas that are still not lit that are very dark at night they should have placed some of those lights instead of placed in a second light on people's property maybe that light could have went where it's actually needed and my mom and other tells we are in the same boat it's miss warm acts but on my mom's property it's much much closer like almost side-by-side my mom's like does shine brighter than the one that they put up you don't have sure there's questions so you go back this is a map of the lighting district that was designed so when when the community event development grant was accepted part of that was was revitalization of the area and lighting therein so in the area that was approved for the grant tetra Tech was involved in doing the design of the streetlights so they took into account all of our land development codes roll sky dark sky those types of things and designed all the yellow lights yellow bubbles there in the map or the lights that are currently in there as you described we can certainly take addresses of anyone that has possibly private security lights and things like that looking and make sure staff corresponds to them and gives them it shows them the option as you describe they can work on their power company if they choose to turn those off but I not want you to disrupt the grid of the streetlights that can be dangerous too I have that going on a concrete yeah and you drive in and it's lit up gets up someone's security light and all of a sudden you go into darkness and then it's lit up again I think that's more dangerous so I I'd want to

stick with the creative mr. ball yeah I get a question too then the lights the citizens are talking about we're calling them security lights but what's the height of these lights that were calling security lights are they the standard size lightful are they smaller of a shorter lights that are only directed towards the homes I don't have that answer offhand we can double check with liquid sugar Electric and get you that less the rabbits maybe you yeah if I ma'am if you don't mind explaining that to me I was thinking my mom's like that was there as the same as the new one I've seen these bikes I actually have faint for life like the security like for individual homes and they do light up but you don't want to change brick once you start changing the grid and mix them up and then you decide not to take the scares not anymore then it leaves a dark area so we can't just do away with a grid you got to stay where the grass they don't you it makes sense to put a light this it's not even five feet distance in between the two lights so that light could have went farther down the road if you go down Moss town between mom or Mac and Moscow there is no light it is pitch dark one of those lights on Mouse town could have went down a little farther over by a business there's a business right there but you know what I understand what you're saying those lights are in a circle grid and so maybe we show you more finished putting them up is that it that's hey you have to answer that I'm not sure so mr. chairman yeah sorry wait so so that's again so man what's your last name again mr. kemeras miss Milton so miss Milton had two questions one was if they are finished right so yes the street light insulation that is covered underneath this grant that was an association with community building is complete those lights are energized and pictured there okay in her second in her second question if I'm not correct was who made the decision of where to put these lights and how is that recognize some ssin that's Withlacoochee River Electric yes that is what the lacouture Electric in cooperation with an external third-party consultant in this case obstetric tech incorporated that did that design and was approved Roy el matadora let's see and also through record okay mr. chairman yes sir if I could looking at the map it's where Moss Town Road can find products Road Moss Town Road where hits pine product photos that you're concerned where there's no lights all right where is it where's the dark part of the business is that on near plan products know if it's between Warmack and 301 there's a business that sits on 301 it used to be a feed store but between from Warmack to 301 there's no lighting and I can go to a few other areas but I don't know if that's under the arm this contractor when this bridge system doesn't go yeah because it stops it must on this road that I'm saying it's on last time you're saying it stops there's one light that's right at the intersection of

Womack and ma stop there was a light there okay you go a little further into the mouth right that's outside of the grid so it stops that war Mackin last time is that what you're telling me let's see how those four the grid stops so they could go up a little bit further and still be in the red box Taria so maybe that maybe with a couch you could take a look at that one there and then maybe if there's a need even at Moss town and find products Road if there's capacity from another light or two that could be added in it might help okay and still being a grid talking about okay that's fine thank you okay thank you for your comments yes ma'am you'd like to speak my name is Tommy saw and I live a more macro and I haven't secured a life huh your street address please two zero seven zero one walnut Road today's city boy okay anyway uh I had this I talked to the guy when he was putting the lights up and so I got his courage like he say well you could have that mine cut out cuz we putting up discrete like I say okay that would be nice you wanna put the street like I said but who approved yeah they put up this Creek like this the first time we were seeing about it you know he said anyway they was approved to put them up so you can't have the security like cut out you won't have that beer my concern is the taxes so the money that we have to pay on taxes it's just every year is this every year you have to pay pay those taxes for each job lot right so the amount we have to pay this year it all is it all start in September is that best one as we have stopped it sure right yeah and this is my oven yes ma'am and then the second year they successful eight dollars and 80 cents and that would be every year okay so if you write it would have been cheaper is we could have no ahead of time so everybody wouldn't know that you can't have the security lights cut off but those are the lights that they got them down on my end one of them come out because it's so bright them it's so bright there because they're like one year they he's not you know further knocked down and it's got a lot of trees there so the trees like cover some up on the in that area and they should have cut the limbs back and then it probably would have been better so uh it is is it it is okay but we would like to have known what was going on ahead of time if they hadn't mean we didn't know nothing about it so that's what I'm saying I just want to know about the taxes but I did called a light company and they did cut my security light off the camera can they can yeah I really played that money yeah you have see the light system we're prepared because the bottom line is y'all gang go move discrete lines right squeeze like on this thing right streetlights girls yeah so I don't want to cut it out there so they did they cut it off oh they did yeah all right thank you that's very they would but for your entire community the grid system with

lights in that community or for the betterment of that we have a lot of things working in that community with manufacturing coming there and with some roads being paved and some other things that are gonna happen in that community with the new manufacturing new jobs for that area it's gonna strengthen the community and the schools up there so a lot of good things are happening in the future so yeah this trim I did I have a question good one so was this initiative done by P vas not at Phoebus I'm sorry about petition was repetition so by the by the residence no it was not this one this one goes back to initially this was started back in 2012 with community development I want to obtain the grandpa's veteran I remember that now okay I may be well kept it later yeah okay people oh my god I'm sorry do you need me to restate this look yes sir so this was started back in 2012 with the grant the Community Development obtained for a betterment of the area and as part of that the streetlights brown line does as a benefiting issue it was also described in the acceptance that that grant that was brought before the board back in 2012 that the intent when the grant would be to pay for the install and design of the lights and then the future benefit of lights would be burdened by assessment so just curious sure okay cost the cost Dilek a guesstimate was $100 or so for two years when he went down to 85 and then again how many streetlights are there being installed or have been installed I should say there are 98 streetlights in this area for 230 residential property Lots so 9 th Street lights 200 + residential lots for every two years and the the initial assessment is not exactly for two years that's for hardly you guess it the initial assessment is not exactly for two years that 107 is for the remainder of the sources yes sir yeah so procedurally why is our public hearing happening after the lights were actually installed ie when we do like a rope evasive you know project the public hearings before we actually do the road sure so why would we going backwards that's great point commissioner so this is a unique situation most most often the board can adopt streetlight districts and one of two manners either goes just like you're saying right with a P vest type deal where it's done via petition which often happens in cases where developers are building building communities they'll petition before they begin selling all the homes turn it over to the county to administer in this case because the lighting district was associated with grant back in 2012 the board does have and I'll defer to the county attorney to describe this part of it but the board has the right to adopt a district without a petition and so that Avenue was exercised back in 2012 when they described this to put for it so yeah so tonight and I understand that part but at the same time we're doing

this my opinion backwards I mean we're asking people to whether I agree or disagree with how much the cost is we're still asking them to come to a public hearing when the lights were already installed but we want you to pay for him but the but I think the issue was the initial grant paid for the installation they're not being assessed for the installation they it also and Justin can can correct me my understanding was the grant paid for the first two years of electricity one year's winters lot less than one year less than one year yes it is currently paying for up until the board adopts the district the grant is handling the operating cost yes sir so this is taking basically taking over the maintenance of those lights and I again I appreciate it I understand it but I'm procedurally I have an issue of how we're going about this to week when we have public hearings we have public hearings before and I listen I can Jeff I get me I understand yours I get what you're saying but at the same time we're asking people to pay for something after often installed I just think it's backwards so I'm supportive the lights but I'm not gonna be supportive assess of them because we're doing this afterwards that's I'm sorry that's my opinion you know if we did this for a road we'd have 200 people lined up outside the door why would we not if we did it that way if we built the road and then ask them to pay forward afterwards well I think this is a little different is is that the county entered into this and I'm sorry no one's here from what's the coochie but the county is entered into this big project with federal money in lieu coochie to improve it there are a lot of steps to it that were laid out in 2012 and and streetlights was just one of the many projects all committed to that community to improve it back to 2012 so this wasn't a surprise attack or anything of this this is one step in a plan that was set up over that was set a long time ago correct right I mean I wasn't here that soup mr. chairman well goodness chairman I was here in 2000 yeah that's okay so so we did a presentation on this I'm sure back into there was a public hearing when we did our research there's a publisher yes we had this one we know what the numbers were etc and now the whole thing's laid out for coming forward so it's not like a regular assessment where we're gonna go build it now intercessory if this is like talked about before they may not have been familiar with etcetera but let's go with staff we voted on it we put a grant in we all knew what was happening so it's not it's not that type of thing it's just getting the final numbers together but I would say that I think that you need to be holding maybe some quarterly or annual meetings with them with that whole boundary that's receiving this federal money that we're paying back how many millions of dollars a year on wait for that time yeah so to let them know what the plans are to make sure everyone knows what's going on can I ask one more

question does one can answer one more question please yes we're still kind of public hearing oh I know we do but this is okay well it's not like we're not here to 6:30 we got time to talk Kathy I'm at I'm sorry I'm gonna pull yeah they may or may not be I know she was it but so with the CVG dollar CBD CBD I always say that wrong I apologize yeah CB CDBG it's a tongue twister you write that down so don't mess it up again is there any type of grant to assist for a limited time to help pay for this you think Kathy Pierson system administrator public services so we do have CDBG dollars for lighting they usually don't pay monthly bills for people but I hold up check with Marci s burg on that we would help with the installations or things of that sort but I don't know about any program that would pay their monthly bills so let me double-check that for you again preciate the comments ever made I understand the look you're saying with Commissioner Marriott has stated a second ago - but I again it's to me is still odd well procedurally how we're doing up about this this time you here in 2012 I was not you were not I was not here he doesn't know I think that's what happened you did have public comment at that time right yes sir there was a poet there is it did you set us did you just said an assessment in a rate at that time of 2012 no sir don't have anyone else just beefed up their CEO gentleman behind me thank you my name is deke Erica I lived three nine seven seven one state where 575 on the caliche I don't live in this little red squared area but I have pretty big of a stake in this county in this community because I've lived here over 20 years my wife's lived here all her life they came in these these security lights they come in they just stuck them in they really didn't there wasn't there wasn't anything before that letting people know that why it was coming in that we were made he made aware of and they stabbed them all on the ground they turned them all on there's a lot of dark areas I understand you got a map it's it's nice it's pretty but if you go out there at night the reality of it is there's a lot of areas that are pitch-black dark that shouldn't be if they were gonna if they were gonna go in and do something go in whenever it's not like whatever it's not daylight or not or even go there period I mean and then there they go and they stick it on people's taxes and like I made a comment and I apologize I spoke out of order but you mentioned roads there's twelve thousand seven hundred seven dollars stacked on my stepdaughters taxes for the roads they paid and the streetlights they put in so when she doesn't when she doesn't have the money to pay those because I don't have the money to give them to her I live paycheck to paycheck when she don't pay her taxes in three years property goes up for tax sale and my freshman struggling so she loses her property and that's just that's it's not acceptable it's not right that girl makes twenty two thousand dollars a year

she paid she makes enough to pay her bills and get by and that's about it they they're on fixed incomes they don't make a ton of money and every one of those newly paved streets they're not gonna be able to come up with 12 grand let alone the measly hundred and some dollars you're tacking on every year now so there we do have a program that helps people with certain income so let's maybe G will cover the low income folks huh the CDBG will cover the lower folks if they're homesteaded position if their homestead the problem is some people are that's very homestead yeah my group my girls are renters and the homeowner stacks it right on top of her part of her rent his part of her rent she doesn't pay a ton of money in rent but part of her rent is she pays the taxes on the property and he showed her the the computer printout of the twelve thousand seven hundred some dollars is stacked on to the property taxes that woman don't make much more than out of here what y'all are doing to these folks is wrong because you know security lights they stick them in next to all these folks lights that they've helped they've been for procedure we're not calling them security okay Street okay y'all call them street lights when I slide people why should the people have to pay for I mean I guess I don't get any more time or do I know not thank your time's up yes I understand thank you for your comments anyone else here in the family polite to speak at this time see you no one but this time I like you really mentally we brought to the clerk read that correctly this letter is from Christy a I think last name is kovin geobox 11:56 here you're here are you mr. Cogan is that correct name an address please 319 3-0 Jarvis Street date City at the current point I'm I'm enough I'm unemployed and like the gentleman just said prior to me a lot of the people they're low-income they're going to struggle to meet their regular normal daily expenses monthly expenses and to tack on pretty much for me doubling my tax bill and then some it's it's quite a heavy increase it's going to be struggled for a lot of people I'm sure that there was notifications mailed out but I think more effort could have been made to include the people to make sure that they knew what was going on because I certainly feel like I didn't really get a whole lot of information cry or so and as to paving other roads come bow and road thank you and I understand where everybody's coming from that community to that community this is for community and they need to help them we found - were concerned can't give them them I actually went as far as stopping a feed that's paving on Phase three that was already scheduled to go forward when everybody came forward a lot of people were renters and couldn't afford that assessment and I actually continued it and but then took or actually stop that babying stuff but

we're doing our best to try to do what's best for that community and make it safe make it a lot better for schools and the families that are lived there we've got a lot of people coming forward with the manufacturing and things create jobs there for those folks in the community and streetlights you might I call them security but they they provide a certain security and safe miss for that that community and I'm for that I understand that I wouldn't pay for a personal like when I had streetlights available in that area so I understand where they're coming from they can't afford the first phase 1 phase 2 and phase 2 a paving went forward and that assessment got put on taxes and a lot of people can't afford it I understand that I take that to heart and I work hard at trying to have a phase 3 that's been held up but I'm working hard to get that done without these charges to the folks there so I'll continue working to make it better for them there and provide jobs that are for you so they make more money than that that's not much money so it takes a lot more money it was very hard to make it and survive them removing some of those and have transportation get where they wanted we have BC BT less transportation out in that area to give them two jobs and come here to get a better job so we provide that as caring mister okay mr. Poole thank you more question maybe two so we do have quite a few streetlight districts you know we I've never had anybody come up I'm not correct I looked historically opposed one before but the reason but my question is typically these seem to be established if I'm not correct because the community comes together once these streetlights in the community mr. chairman if I may most of the street lighting districts that you see our developer initiated they are put in at the time of the development there are no residents yeah but we've had those if I look at certain I think yeah we've we've had them that work I mean in later so 90% of what you see then since I've been down the attorney our developer initiated now that this this is an alternate or the process I am I don't think we see as many petitioned street lighting districts as we do petition and road improvements mm-hmm well then you obviously lighting that you're talking about that we put in afterwards not the type of community we're into Withlacoochee was been depressed and I'm set back in a poor area but we don't find that there's different areas in our counties or they're like this but this is important convenient but I won't see it grow up get up out of that situations in and come back alive so and I think it will be so yes thank you this answer mr. Stein's like okay well then I appreciate that again going back I mean I've been here since 14 and I don't remember one time where we had a situation some of this though where we installed something and asked first as a board to vote on an assessment after it was actually installed do we I mean can anybody

answer me if that's happened in five years well as I as I besides the developer initiated once that's I don't know that I don't know don't you might have to do with it you already know what you're buying into then right I don't know that you've had a potato I mean Justin may know but I don't know that you've had one that's been petitioned that they've paid for the street Lighting's that have been put in place and then the power bills subsequent to that so you have the same thing with the be Bassett we have out in that same area those charges have already been put on those taxes for those well different problems but it went through there was a procedural they went through the procedure right there's a public hearing which happened where people gotta speak to that issue before the roads were were built they were not there was still a public hearing before there's residue bill carrion so we went through the process Commission voting those streets paved correct but strike because we're trying to using that grant money and trying to improve that community to the best we can and the grant money is coming from somewhere else but still there are certain cost to the persons in there no you're you're again you're correct chairman mr. chairman it just again to go back to procedurally there it went through the process of allowing a public hearing before hand so this commission could listen to this residents and listen to the citizens and make a decision based either on our deed own due diligence listeni staff Turrell issen to the residents or a mix of the three hey what's your work before it was the work was done right not after the way what's your here today is the same thing you heard all of events but it's after it was done that keeps repeating this over and I mean it was in the process and it was still the same issue just folks living there I want to live their own properties maybe by a relative and they're renting and even their the person they're ringing from can afford it so it gets put on tax well you know and I understand that we can that's that's to again that's two separate issues we're talking about me I'm Jerry struggle for ability is one for procedure and going through a process is a different solar different issue though yeah I don't think I'm going forward yeah I know I mean that I know this started in 2012 some people weren't here but we cannot do it this way my opinion never again we're gonna poke hearing before we assess it by we need to pump up gear before we actually build something I don't know I don't know if it was done how was the original procedure in care the first time we're seeing the numbers yeah on this one like I said this one will go back to 2012 when they presented the grant this was done and they mentioned street lighting it would be part of that grant they were going to design the district and then come forward and I think the language I don't have it on me but we can pull that that record and submit it it talked about

when those were designed that costs would be estimated and brought brought back that is where right now right so the district was designed by tetra Tech and then they go in based on the number of ice recommended and conformance with LDC and dark-sky requirements they land on an estimate from the Power Company on those 98 lights being or operating cost so there was no assessment at the time this was being approved early on for the grant there was no assessment that anyone knew about our cost that would be passed on to the homeowners in that area the yes measure the the language in 2012 was that it would follow the streetlight assessment process but no a number was not identified in 2010 because that information was not yet available and the cost you see actually is basically about same thing if you're going down to private lighting put it by your electric company you this price of the street lines are basically about the same price there's a ballpark yes six or seven dollars and apples and oranges as we've discussed many yet but yes and in ballpark in terms of dollars yes sir yeah okay mr. chairman yes sir you know the paragraph in our again definitely ready did on April 11th 2012 the bcc approved my random CD 1 which approved the location and specific improvements in though the coochie neighborhood to be undertaken with a reallocation of section 108 funds period these improvements included street lighting service from Withlacoochee River Electric Cooperative this section 1a funding is no longer available therefore this action is needed so that's why it's happening what's happening it was actually included before now with that section of funding can someone dictate what happened that funding just ran out or section 108 funds no one knows what that is section 108 funds was a Tommy town loan that we took out so we're paying about million dollars a year for that back up until 2026 I have to look and say I wasn't here in 2012 either so I'd have to see when that funds are in now do we want to know the only note that I would do things with the county attorney would be if this is not so we continue to today this is about the latest time we've worked with the tax collector for this to go on this next year's assessment if we and the board can do whatever pleases of course but if we do continue we do run the risk of having to come back and then you would have an assessment that would be the first year assessment could be two years plus I know okay so it's good for the community to have the streetlights the issue is funding is the annual amount of 17,000 is that what I see if if someone else were paying at the total amount would be 17 around 70,000 a year so why don't we go ahead and approve this but look for financial support for the community through CDBG funds or somewhere what that's a good point it's a but so what that's why I was brought up earlier the one oh can you go back to Commissioner referring to what Commissioner starting to stay but also

commissioner Marianas in reference to the 108 if you can pull that back up that was the screen thank you we need a little more information yeah proving the location specific improvements Lucas you never had to be undertaken allocation of such that went away finds this including the coronation street lighting services here so I think we need to find that out there couldn't because they're not being an assumption made that is 108 Funt or gonna be paying for this although there's not enough information in that paragraph what does that mean so in 2012 could could the assumption have been made that the ongoing lighting was going to be paid for with section 108 funds yeah no one here seems has that information but I think we should pass it I mean I think we need to pass it and look for a funding solution to help so what kind of assistance to have that community yeah whether it's you know percentage or something cover it for the first year or whatever the total assessment and there's 17,000 something is that the right not according to the letter we are 18,600 how much 18600 okay well I'm in favor of reach reaching out and see if we can't give them some assistance and these why the lights there well I think they need to be there preciate the fact that they are there that community it's a growing community and we need to help them and we can and we look for some kind of assistance that we can give them we're just going to continue it no I don't think we know what the promise that we already have a light so it's not good right well there we can continue we need to get this thing well someone has to pay the power bill so so either so either the mechanic either the lights are shut off the county pays the power bill or the assessment gets gets Oprah managed that's the that's the three there's really the three options you got I wait Marcy is not here we don't know what what so I say I say we pass it and we look for money to help subsidize it'll make a motion about her that my motion is to pass this with the conditions that we find a way to help subsidize the cost at the least for the first year I think they didn't get any warning to save any money that this was coming so I would I would say for this the Ranger this year and next year and and then we'll see what happened second all right so that's so that includes approving the resolution that's before you correct we really do you need to find out those sex when we're on a deadline I know and again I go back to where the deadline it but it we should these are questions we should have been able to answer while we're sitting up here in a tough everybody that's come on guys talk about this every last port meet our two board meetings ago but we haven't done public notice I think so now we're up against the wire oh yeah it's kind of got a little messed up I do want to suggest that you that there are more community meetings about this project so don't we all have more names about what duties

guarantee are so we're done with p10 p11 that P 11 was published in the template times in July 26 2019 is a call with Public Works this is the Jeremy Piven assessment project PFS number three three to eight do you only go through everything once reason involved its private is on pave the total project estimate the cost is wandering eighty seven thousand seven hundred dollars the maximum cost for EIU is nine thousand two hundred and sixty seven dollars and eighty cents because it's private an unpaved there is no discount and the maximum maximum a services assessment remains the same they were twenty two possible faults we got back ten responses to the petition which is forty five percent you know risk six were in favor voted yes and four were against the project the annual installment is over a 15 year period and the interest rate is five point two five percent this is a project it's off Erin cut off and just a few pictures [Music] okay p12 item p12 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on July 26 2009 teen this is the field green place T versus project number of three three five zero one Street come to maintain and paved the estimated project costs for $5,900 maximum cost for ru is four thousand five hundred and ninety dollars and sixty cents the discount amount is eight thousand seven hundred and twenty six and 51 cents the maximum cost for er you after the discount is three thousand six hundred and ninety two thousand ninety five cents there were 11 possible votes eight responded and four were in favor and four against and that's per the ordinance we have to get a straight board for approval the annual installation is over a ten year period five point two five percent interest rate location map road condition and staff is recommending proof okay as public hearing has anyone here to speak to p12 seeing no one see no one move approval thank you approval in a second all those in favor say aye those Whiteside measure passed P 13 P 13 was published in the template time July 26 2009 teen oh this is a Saratoga place P vast project number three three six zero one Street count maintained and paid this may the cost for the project is for $2,700 maximum cost for EIU 4425 and 73 cents the discounted amount is nine thousand one hundred and seventy dollars and seventeen cents maximum costs per ear you after the discount is three thousand five hundred and sixty nine dollars and thirty cents there were twelve possible votes each respondent were returned to us for infer and the annual installation is over ten year period and interest rate at 5.25% location map road condition staff is recommending approval here to speak to pin 13 say no one in the loop of a second all those in favor say aye like p14 that's tonight tonight back to P 4 P 3 sorry yep P 3 and actually okay

was from the Train please take him to look at Kim's mirror and then get back with me Ken's Mir I and I'll just and give me a little history on Ken's mirror last time it was hey that's at Trinity Oaks yes I drug the batteries in really bad children there we go more items to yeah mr. chair I'm gonna move approval actually we looked at it as we're on the screen I kind of saw something that gave me more comfort to it so move approval second mr. chairman you didn't call for public comment the first time because it was pulled through consent so you need to do it we got a recess just say I think what just done in recess this year that finishes all of our public hearing items tonight forward reconvene at 6:30 p.m. the public hearing of Jennifer adoption of tenders millage rates in budget crisper year 2020 6:30 tonight okay thank you [Music] good evening I would like to call to order the FY 2020 modes rates and budget hearing first public hearing September 3rd 2019 6:30 p.m. in big city for those citizens who wish to speak on the budget during the public comment portion of the public hearing and have a sign signed up the sign up team you will be given an opportunity to speak during the public comment portion of the hearing mr. Goering do we have proof of the notice for this meeting good evening yes sir mr. chair and members of the board notification for this meeting was provided in the trim or truth--and millage notices mailed to each property owner and across the state statute the first issue just be discussed recommended military and the percentage changes from the road back rates mr. Gordon would you please provide that information yes sir the tentative aggregate millage rate fiscal year 2020 as advertised on the trim notices was nine point two nine seven one Mills which represents a zero point three zero percent increase from the 2020 aggregate millage rate of nine point two six nine four Mills since the total taxable value increase from 2019 to 2020 generating additional revenue levied for the same millage rate the 2020 tentative aggregate millage is greater than the 2019 aggregate actual aggregate millage even though the millage rates have not changed between ninth 2019 2020 at this time I ask the board and members of the audience to refer to table 1 in your handout which shows the 2019 and 2020 millage rates for the various County levies the table also provides a comparison of the 2020 millage rate to the rollback rates and a 2019 raise rather than read this chart into the record we have provided copies to each Commissioner board records and members of the audience tonight I would like to ask the Commission to adopt the tentative millet rates and total budget the millage rates adopted tonight are the maximum allowed by Florida law without mailing each property owner and additional notice the board can reduce the millage rates tonight through the

final hearing on September 18 2019 however the millage rate cannot be increased later in this meeting should the Commission wish to modify the budget we ask that staff be directed to return on September 18th at the final public hearing with the desired amendments at this time I'd like to give a brief presentation of general fund and Transportation Trust Fund budgets stating the tentative millage rate the percentage change from the rollback rate and the reasons for such change as you know the general fund is a county wide in nature such that all property owners with a net value pay AB form taxes into this month for fiscal year 2020 the tentative millage rate for the general fund is seven point six oh seven six Mills this represents a 2.25 percent increase from the rollback rate of seven point four for both five the county realized a nine point three percent increase in taxable assessed values over the past year compared to the current fiscal year the tentative general fund expenditure budget represented an increase of forty two point eight million dollars the main factors for this increase include an 18.9 million dollar increase in reserves fully funding the sheriff's budget requests a six percent which wage increase for board and constitutional officer employees six point eight million for business plan initiatives such as the EMS quality assurance initiative the final year of the restoration of library hours and an emergency generator replacement plan it also includes 6.6 million for investments in infrastructure such as the Starkey ranch district park baseball fields roller hockey rink two roller hockey rinks in partnership with the Tampa Bay Lightning various information technology projects and the facilities master crane master plan prior action by the Florida Legislature eliminated the requirement for mandatory transportation have warm tax no millage was levied for fiscal year 2019 and we proposed no millage be assessed for the Transportation Trust Fund for capital transportation needs during fiscal year 2020 since revenue for this fund comes from the first local option gas tax as well as the tax increment financing fund it is now time to accept comments from the public on general fund and the Transportation Trust Fund budgets and associated Miller's rates individuals will be given three minutes to speak and one representative from an organization or group will be provided five minutes at a time limits will be strictly adhered to please limit your comments at this time to discussion of the general fund and transportation trust fund we will be calling on people to speak based on the sign-up sheet if you wish to speak but have not signed up you will be given an opportunity to speak half of those who have signed up okay anyone I don't have a sign-up sheet with anyone signed up has been wandering the audience wish to speak a public comment see you no one public comment on the general fund and transportation funds

budget millage rates has been received is there any discussion by the board mr. chairman yes I don't want to do anything as far as changing millage in the budget et cetera but one of the alleged items that we talked about during our deliberations months ago and brought up recently was about using the money that was part of a study project on the Gateway for a hundred thousand dollars or to go use a piggy bank dredge contract at West Palm Beach use for just under a hundred thousand dollars the folks I've talked to up and down the coast for the past two and a half year years clearly want to see dredging done we've got an opportunity with some advance work was done and donated to study the Gulf harbors Woodlands landings area as well as the and channel which was shrunk to a 44 foot wide area which is very unsafe for boaters the others clearly need to be dredged in our effect and property values up and down so much so when you consider one year one company that you heard from a citizen talked about West Coast marine left Pasco to go to Hernando and they're the largest boat retailer they say in the area in the nation we had a place in leisure lanes at Hudson across the Walmart where there's a boat and RV place it was going to come in that we had redone and I guess between the top cost of revenues they decided not to go when I went to the people at the Gulf landings which is like 587 homes those folks clearly said their values are dropping people can't get their boats out they want to see dredging done at that meeting they talked about many different things including having the Association assess each home which they have the power to do at $1,000 per homes which can go towards a future dredging project for them that's 580 thousand thousand dollars the woodlands is meeting next month they wanted me to wait to go to them where they can get a full audience to have the same discussion and I expect another another 100 hundred plus emails it may come to follow to say they want to support it so clearly you've seen support from them Gulf harbors get 2,000 people that would go I think there's a huge opportunity to do something that'll generate something part of an area we've studied the harbors many times and and put an action plan in place this is clearly something that will benefit everybody you know I've supported projects when we had the cootchie way back when when we had Tommy town when I first got started here about doing the right thing for Evers in the county this is the right thing for the coastal part of the county it is a huge opportunity for us that'll increase property values increase demographics or improve demographics up and down and with existing hundred thousand dollar piggyback contract rather than waiting for the BP restore money to use that we could use I think we need all that money and other money in the budget to match what these people are contributing and then we can take the plan up and down the coast but this is where it can start right here right now and I guarantee you

everybody up and down will say they would much rather see that hundred thousand dollars spent here than another study to go somewhere else that may sit in the Shelf phonos out long so my motion will be to take the hundred thousand dollars out of the Suncoast study market and put it into the district project that was trying to be set up by piggy bank from West Palm Beach well I think the county administrator has something to say but I'm trying to recall where that money for the Suncoast study was coming from what pot of money this is general that's a BPI for my general fund general yeah for planning to do the long-range study on because we've done the harvest plan this is we haven't done any of the other four market area so this is the next one today I'm very supportive of dredging but I think it's really pretty mature to start asking folks to pitch in when we don't know what that formula how much the cost is gonna be and Thresh out flesh out that formula so thousand dollars may be too high thousand dollars per house may be too low so I just I don't think that I just don't think we're there yet now as far as you're saying take the hundred thousand from the market study and put it to do this that you can to study exactly from there we can go figure out how to go how to how to go get funded maybe the thousands not enough maybe it's gonna take more we can look at the use in the BPL can say you don't want to wait you don't want to wait for the beat people I don't want to listen they're gonna win for three years to get this done the one meeting I went to with The Woodlands you saw I mean you saw all the meals that cannot that the landings I mean you saw that these people who want to see dredging done and it's radiating up and down they want to see some action done on this and now's the time to go do it when you know the contractor this is a loan from the general fund and then when we get the BP money goes back to to do that to make sure if you go with a piggyback contract you won't be able to get the Treasury money back it wasn't prepared to the appropriate process so we're working to the appropriate process now to get a consultant on board working through the training process but we're probably six to nine months from having that ready to be approved by the board so if you move forward with a piggyback contract you'll never get the hundred thousand back through the RESTORE Act you basically so you're spent there as opposed to waiting the six to nine months to get in through the right process through the Treasury process you get the contract and award the right way even then we'll have to spend the hundred thousand and then we'll get reimbursed by the Treasury for that but that's we can do that at that point that's not that big of a deal it's if you go a piggyback you're never getting that hundred thousand back and again three years of waiting from a meeting up at Sea Ranch when I had every single area up and down a coast that came to the meeting at Sea Ranch said they

wanted dredging done we would spend money on do burry well yeah you know what me and I think you know I hear a lot of positive things and go harvest but of course we haven't talked a number yet either so I mean a thousand may not be enough but and hopefully they all stay positive if it's more I have that's gonna cost yes sir thank again this kind of restate we use stead a second ago it reference to use particular than 1000 now or the future can't do a loan off you can't do what you can't borrow from the future so the banking back contract the commissioners referencing was not procured through the Treasury processing compliance with the RESTORE Act rules so if you execute that contract the money is spin on the contract will not be eligible for reimbursement from the RESTORE Act pot of money is that the only way to do it is piggyback that's if you want to execute a contract in the next two to six weeks we are going to that process now to procure the same type of services in compliance with the RESTORE Act rules we will be through that process in about six to nine months and we'll have action from the board to award the contract under the historic rules so that would be still you would fund that contract and then we would be reimbursed by Treasury but if you go a piggyback now with a contract that was not procured under the historic you will not be able to get reimbursement from that in the future what takes nine months to put a contract out we are working through the Treasury rules and some of that requires certain public notices and so it's up it's we're working with the federal government and if you want their funds you have to go through their process yes so basically what you're saying is if we do it today definitely cannot be quote reimbursed via the RESTORE Act dollars if you wait six or seven months we could correct but is that definite or that's not if we follow us they're saying we will be reimbursed through that process but that will just delete the since that hundred thousand dollars of money that you're gonna need for dredging anyway I mean we're not gonna have money with the RESTORE Act money to get this done we're gonna need to get more money so yeah so it's just like this is just this is just to get the easiest project started with twenty eight hundred homes at our system fired up about this and you've got all this advanced work that was donated where that's why that cost is so low right now and instead of spending money on another study we're gonna put it to work well I mean I get five hundred eighty seven thousand dollars that they're looking to bring forward to get this next stuff done here's I just don't want this to get out of whack though alright in love to hear everybody waiting on this if we move for with this now I want to make sure that everybody understands it's a study right because the last thing you want to do is get people's hopes up to think that six months down the road or eight months down the road just because we're moving this up six or seven or eight months that we're gonna

be popping out there you know and dredging anytime soon so I don't want to give anybody false hope because that's not the reality we know that can't happen it can't possibly happen right because the study itself what could take how long do we think possibly that's a question for a general question for anybody can answer it I think I may have that answer mister under water roads Mike Carlin the Public Interest rector excuse me about six months for that so I said that once yeah okay so the study be done what's it's maybe they just moved everything up six months possum possibly yeah but again I just want to make sure that we don't get anybody's hopes up because again we don't know where okay let's say the projects are still in a number out there says it's fifty million dollars right it's or more where is that going to come from we don't know at this time so again I just don't want to get anybody's hopes up that this is gonna be a quick process or class process by any means what's the studies the who do studies all the time and we know it we do studies and there's work not done after that study right all the time or or it takes many many many years for that work to to be brass so and and I want to add that the restore committee has not yet ranked voted voted or ranked dredging as one of their projects I think we fund so there's that's that still to go to they approved the hundred thousand for the study they have not approved anything else that is correct and then limit let me say this though as far as to the history of the restore the first allocation they gave six hundred and sixty seven grand to the city of Port Richey to do dredging and when we tried to look at future allocation for pot three the board said you know what before we put any more money into dredging let's say we're going to use extra dredging money let's go back to pop one first and we just haven't been to the stage to even bring it back for that well we don't and that's why we need it that's exactly what we all have to stay down then we all agree that dredging direct is very very important to that area to the office to the west coast of Bastrop County we understand that it's that it's very much needed I also understand that some of the areas may never be dredged because of their armored Corps of Engineers so not saying connect residential canals well there's some areas I know there could be possibly to be some problems in the future anybody can respond to that if you like but there's some areas that have been talked about in the past that we don't know if we'd ever get a core permit to actually do the judging unfortunately mmm even like that correct with that anybody knows no I'm not certain which areas but I mean the the approach would be to part of these assessments would be to look at the permit ability yeah of those actions just they've I know they turn their noses some areas of the past am I not correct some sameiras will struggle places like leisure beach that did theirs and funded

their own beaten stretch from years ago that needs to be done as well which is part of this right here they'll have trouble Westport is one that doesn't show records though it does show it it's gonna have to go through approval process that it was there before 1972 or 1975 so there will be issues as we go along but this is just like two channels that have been looked at from Gulf harbors in Hudson that have been looked at and Hudson has already done so it's just a straight making the stretch on that part so those two things in Gulf harbors doesn't need that much work on the end of it but the inside parts of the landings that's that does so that's why they're so willing to they know how important is for their quality of life I mean they bought multi-million dollar homes sir and they can't get out than what a sailboat or a big boat at a certain time so that's why they're willing and I think it's a great way to start because these are very affluent people that know what they want that know they knew what they bought and now they just want to get back to where they were and that will set a good template I think for all the other people that we're gonna try to say look they had the donate you go to donate and we're all in this together so I think it's just a great starting point so one more follow-up people I want to weigh in too I won't say this though because we did receive at least I did I was soom a lot digs I saw that multiple commissioners were on some of those emails I did receive quite a few emails from people though that said that they do not want to pay anything they think the check that County should be the ones footing the bill yeah so there were quite a few of those and so it wasn't it wasn't a mass of emails that said we're willing to contribute there was also quite a few especially towards the end hmm I know that seems like some of the discussions amongst some people may have changed a little bit that said well we think the county keeps you should take care of this because it's a benefit for everybody in the account so those were some there's people out there that are sure thinking that too but you know so they're not all board with contributing at least that's what they're faced many people send their emails and I would assume everybody received save emails so that's how from from the night of that meeting and again they just brought me in just to talk about dredging period everybody in there was fired up about it and from that the emails like tripled just from word of mouth and they put in their own their own newsletter etc and then it reached over a little bit to the woodlands as well so yeah there's definitely a lot of enthusiasm fart the the language just so you know landing is an association that Association that has the power to assess these people that money and everybody in that room from the landings was 100 percent part they'll have the room discussion it's not rock-solid and others they got to go through the process but even people were in the room

thought we could raise at least half that much money in a very short period of time so they're willing to go take the step I just we just got to put them in that step and for a hundred thousand dollars instead of do another study that's just gonna sit but I don't think that we have to I mean that the budgets the monies the money we we can redirect it later we're not redirected right now it's not what I was told by the administrator so I had to bring it up tonight because I had brought it up twice before thought we had it pretty well covered just wanted to verify with him today he said note you need to bring it up you did not give the nod to include that in the budget so if you want it included in a 20/20 budget today is a day to amend the budget to do that are you saying include or switch oh yeah you read right well you you have you would as we have this and delete something else so you got to take money from something else to fund this well what so the Commissioner gave an option right so that's privacy restated again we're yeah and what is the impact on what what other projects putting off for a hearing but the project would be the Gateway study which is the same amount of money at $100,000 I mean I'll put them in the motion the flexibility or if the administrator decides to put it finds it somewhere else in another project I don't mind we've all you know said we're in favor of dredging you know yeah I've been getting a lot of emails too and I think folks get the wrong idea but that's that's not a discussion for today I'm all about moving forward with something but I gotta make we need to make sure we do it right because I can tell you the Hudson channel was not done right I don't want to rush this and have it be done wrong I mean is it are you saying that if we waited the six months we're still gonna pay a hundred thousand for a company it's the same thing I mean do we know if this company is reputable then like I just want to make sure we have some I know you make some about some people donating stop I just my concern is in the past again I look at the Hudson channel was it's terrible I don't like talking about the past but I want to make sure we get this right and support it good the tranching is important for this county but we want to make sure again if it takes us nine months to get it right they'll at least let me touch on that too cuz 2004 before I was elected that was approved it's design in nature another God his way but I want you to know because it was I very first reading was of that meeting there at Gianni's restaurant talking all the boaters out there where men were like taking the channel and narrowing it down and you know it took all these sea grass zones that were they weren't happy about and then at that time trying to go to DEP in the Army Corps to go get anything change was brutal it's a whole different world nowadays DEP is so much easier to work with and I think with this Army Corps I think we're gonna have better luck with them as well

if we if we need if when we need them but and I will tell you with the boaters experience out there we will make sure we everybody looks at these channels every step the way know everybody knows what's what they're gonna get and what we're coming forward with but I think this will be a much better result well I just use that because I did not know it negatively affected economic development absolutely did those folks can't even go to work what's the time times right that's I just want to make sure in so this company does these all over the the country were so this particular company I the name escapes me but it was selected through a competitive consultant negotiation act so they they selected the most qualified and of course we deemed that we can piggyback on their scope was very very similar so under the under the scope of services that was done by this municipality I believe it was West Palm Beach did they were they were deep qualified it's the same process we would go through on our own we've been taking interested firms we'd look at their experience and and we would we would weigh all those factors before making a selection in this particular case the scope whether we go this route or we go six to nine months from now as we get all the federal requirements taken care of it would be the same we would we would do some desktop survey we would do underwater diving and surveys so we can have a better idea as to what the real costs are going to be doing soil samples and things because really the the heavy cost a lot of dredging is what do you do with the material afterwards and and in addition to getting it up so we're whatever approach we take we're going to be doing it the right way so to answer your question yes this firm was was selected through a qualification process so therefore they would be be qualified one follow-up from them done there's no one move on so I mean I'll be supportive I just again going back to I just want to make sure the messaging is correct to the public that what goes out whenever it goes out that this again once again as a study I don't want to get fall give people false hope and I'm sure you can appreciate that I want to make sure that getting them and now in my opinion and I can't you know everybody can do what they want to do you're your own person and but I think when getting letting people know that the studies being done and almost holding off for additional meetings for a while until the information comes in then you're able to disseminate that information that's received from the study and have a better idea and if things couldn't move forward again I still would say it again people in this never comes back it's some extraordinary number that we would know in our minds we can know that we could just not pay unless people you know drop in fifteen twenty thirty thousand well know well well warranted and I think we can devise something some type of verbiage that we can have for everybody that they can actually hand out and out

at the meetings or whatever they're gonna do to give the word says here's what we're going to do and until the study is done we're gonna wait for any any number of conversations with ya so wait until that point oh yeah I think you should wait and I'm brain I'll bring this before the board yeah so that we can all look at it man we're gonna eat we can we need to do you can look at it as well before you let that let that go to the public and if I may add to the commissioners point yes this is sort of gets you to a conceptual early early design there is still engineering and permitting and things that you have to go through where you would further refine your costs so these kind of gives you that order of magnitude but this is just some main channels I mean this is not the residential gym that is correct these are just those those two main channels so you're not even space a number for the residential channels the intention is to spend manpower diving those particular channels doing doing soil samples and those types of things so we will be spending a focused area on those two on those two channels in particular two areas the Gulf harbors channel and then the Hudson well there's a lot of yeah it so we're gonna connect think to the Gulf landings channel coming out as well yeah I'd have to look at the Maricopa yeah the ones who wish that were shown before in a presentation that's correct yeah it is it is more than just - yeah well and the contract has to come back to the board to approve anyone okay this is just a budget adjustment so that we know what to bring you on the 18th and if you want to the Commissioner of motion would give us direction to adjust by the second motion I sent a commotion okay so I have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye motion passed thank you very much all right now is there emotions about the tens of millions right fiscal year 2020 for the general fund of 7.6 heroes I had a motion saying all those in favor say aye opposed like sign motion passed is there a motion to about the tentative millage rate for fiscal year 2024 the Transportation Trust Fund zero point zero zero zero zero Mills subbu does that mission have a second all those in favor say aye there's like signs the motion pass mr. Goering will now provide a summary of the fire mstu but stating the tentative millage rate the percentage change from the road back rate and the reasons for such a change Thank You mr. chairman the fire mstu fund has a tentative tax levy of one point eight zero three six mils which represents a five point three one percent increase from the rollback rate of 1.71 to six the increase and property values results in approximately an additional four million dollars from property taxes the total fund for fiscal year 2020 is three point eight dollar through twenty million dollars higher than the current year the increase is primarily attributable to the negotiated

firefighter wage increase as well as staffing for some of the new fire studies we now receive public comment on the mstu tend to motivate and tentative budget as everybody from the public wish to speak to this idle see another one is there a motion to adopt the tentative rate of 1.80 three six mills for the fire MSD you silky ii got a motion on a second all those in favor say aye opposed like sign emotional pass mr. boring will now provide a summary of the jail facility bond budget stating the tentative millage rate required to pay the annual debt service thank you the jail facility bond has a tentative tax levy of zero point zero two seven seven mills this is the first year the county is levying this voter approved debt service voter approved debt service millage which is set to repay the debt service for this general obligation bond the total fiscal year 2020 debt service for this fund is seven hundred seventy three thousand seven hundred forty three dollars we will now receive public comment on the jail facility by is anyone in the audience wish to speak to this by seeing no one will move on is there a motion to adopt the tentative it said a millage rate a second zero point two seven seven mills for the jail facility by dennis i got a motion in a second on say I like sign lesson pass mr. Goren will now provide a summary of the fire risk use by budget stating the attendant knows rate required to pay the handlers thank you the fire rescue bond has a tentative tax levy of 0.02 to 2 mils this is the first year the county is levying this voter proof that service millage calculated to repay the debt service for this general obligation bond the total fiscal year 2020 debt service for this fund is six hundred eighteen thousand five hundred twenty-five dollars we will now receive public comment on the fire rescue box anyone here from the public would like to speak to this bond seeing no one is there a motion to adopt a tentative millage rate of 0.02 to mils for the fire rescue the five yeah we got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye opposed like sign motion carries mr. Goran will now provide a summary of the parks recreation and natural resources by the budget stating the tentative millage rate before to pay the hanging with that service thank you the parks recreation and natural resources bond has a tentative tax levy of 0.0100 mils this is the first year the county living this order of proof debt service millage which is set to repay the debt service for this general obligation bond the total fiscal year 2020 debt service for this fund is two hundred seventy nine thousand six hundred sixteen dollars we will now receive public comment on parks recreation natural resources bond the audience here wishing to speak to this item seeing no one is there a motion to adopt another right over 100 0.01 zero zero males for the parks recreation natural resource like an emotional second and a second all those

in favor say aye aye opposed like sign motion carries mr. Goran will now provide a summary of the library's bond budget stating the tentative member Freight required to pay the English debt service thank you the library's bond has a tentative tax levy of zero point zero zero nine six mils this is the first year the county is levying this voter approved debt service millage which is set to repay the debt service for this general obligation bond the total fiscal year 2020 debt service for this fund is two hundred sixty eight thousand one hundred forty dollars when he'll receive public comment on the library's bond and we're here to speak to the library of I see another one is there a motion to adopted that was ready to 0.009 six males for the library the tank got emotional a second all those in favor say aye thank you motion passed mr. Warren will now provide a summary of remainder of physical year 2020 of genitive budget mr. chairman the tentative budget for the fiscal year 2020 is comprised of 71 separate funds and totals 1 billion four hundred sixty-five thousand one billion four hundred sixty-five million eight hundred nineteen thousand one hundred ninety-eight dollars and net of interfund transfers if you refer to table two in your handout you will see the revenue sources and expenditures identified by type without regard to identity individual funds as stated prior to any action taken by the board tonight we will now receive public comment on the remainder of the budget is anyone here to speak to the budget seeing no one at this time I entertain a motion for the the fiscal year 2014 budget as outlined by staff second a motion in a second all those in favor say aye all right back side motion pass mr. chairman members of the board the actions you have taken here today has set the tentative aggregate millage rate at nine point two nine seven one Mills which reflects an increase of 0.30% above the role of battery I would now ask mr. going to read the resolution adopting the attentive levying of Admiral um taxes of his career 2014 that resolution by title only a resolution of the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida adopting the tentative levying of ad valorem taxes for Pasco County for fiscal year 2020 providing for an effective date is there a motion for approval of the resolution adopting the tentative moving up we have the wrong taxa professor Phillip is for year 2020 I have a motion second in a second all those in favor say aye motion passed I would now ask mr. lorring to read the resolution adopting an attentive budget for the fiscal year 2020 thank you by title only a resolution of the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida adopting the tentative budget for fiscal year 2020 providing for an effective date is there a motion for approval of the resolutions not the budget of Pasco Canada goes through year 2020 a promotional second second

all those in favor say aye aye opposed wax on motion pass Thank You mr. chair and members of the board any changes made between now and the final public hearing will be detailed in a memorandum which will be provided to you with your agenda for the regular meeting of September 18th 2019 staff recommends the board provide direction prior to the public hearing on the 18th regarding any additional amendments to the tentative budget as a result of the memorandum mentioned above and any other amendments that the board so desires these changes can then be incorporating into the present incorporated into the resolutions for the public hearing of September 18 2009 at this point concludes the first public here in the fiscal year 2020 budget and this time I'd like to ask Commissioner wills if he personal business yes sir thank you Thank You Jeremy I would like to reappoint give me just a moment here those colleges yes Dickens price to the Bo pH work okay don't know that's what require bonus for us Howard now for many Western yes Mariana and I'd like to appoint Dale negra to those vo pH as well [Music]