Board of County Commissioners
06.20.19 Pasco BOCC
Thu, Jun 20, 2019
The board approved the Project Arthur MPUD rezoning by Angeline Core Bexley entities, authorizing up to 11,495 residential units, 5.15 million square feet of commercial space, and 24 million square feet of corporate business park uses across nearly 6,951 acres. Commissioners also directed staff to narrow a proposed 180-day mini warehouse and self-storage moratorium to the SR 54/56 corridor, exclude boat and RV storage, and compress the timeline to roughly 120 days, with no final vote taken. A job creation incentive was approved for AJ's Power Source, a Land O' Lakes defense contractor adding 20 positions at 130% of average county income, with staff projecting a 7-to-1 return. The board deferred a fleet management contract for two weeks over concerns about incomplete pricing comparisons between bidders.
Agenda34 items
- 0:00Call to order, invocation, pledge, and roll calladministrative
- 1:33Public CommentMorning public comment — five speakers on traffic, coastal funding, taxesotherdiscussedread ↓
- 19:08Motion to add emergency item and approve consent agenda modificationsadministrative
- 19:30ConsentApproval of consent agenda — bulk of items not pulledconsent
- 20:27C15C15 revised — correction of fiscal impact section errorconsent
- 20:53C10C10 revised — deed language updated for mineral rights statuteconsent
- 21:31C43C43 revised — Animal Services budget journal entry correctionconsent
- 22:03C12C12 fleet management contract — continued two weeks for additional informationadministrative
- 24:05AC1AC1 revised — correction of incorrect bond reference in memoconsent
- 24:41C52C52 revised — public transportation contract modificationsconsent
- 25:35C9C9 landscaping code — nursery professional as alternative to landscape architectdiscussion
- 29:41C21C21 US 19 landscaping design — tree mitigation trust fund concerns raiseddiscussion
- 33:20R1Tourism Development Council appointment — Mike Bishop, Big Storm Breweryappointment
- 38:13R2Job creation incentive for AJ's Power Source — defense manufacturer in Land O' Lakesresolution
- 44:18Commissioner reports — transportation, mental health, hepatitis, TBW, RESTORE fundsdiscussiondiscussedread ↓
- 1:24:12RS2Resolution honoring Dr. Paula O'Neill on nearly 32 years of service as Clerkresolution
- 1:47:48R3AM Skills mobile innovation station presentation and donor recognitionproclamationdiscussedread ↓
- 2:03:54RS3Resolution recognizing Dr. James P. Gills and Heather Gills for philanthropyproclamation
- 2:10:48RS1Resolution honoring Water Awareness Poster Contest first-place student winnersproclamation
- 2:18:11RS4Resolution commending Ali Atafi for 31 years of MPO service upon retirementproclamation
- 2:27:58P1Mitchell Ranch Community Development District ordinance — continued to July 9ordinance
- 2:28:58P2Ordinance delegating tourist development tax collection to Pasco Tax Collectorordinance
- 2:41:20P3Large-scale comp plan amendment — Promenade Business Center PD at Curley and Overpass Roadspublic hearing
- 2:44:08P4Temporary moratorium on mini warehouse and self-storage applications — first hearing, direction givenpublic hearingdiscussedread ↓
- 3:42:46P5Evans Parcel G2 MPUD rezoning — 117 units and 100,000 sq ft non-residential on 39 acrespublic hearing
- 3:45:30P6Project Arthur MPUD rezoning — 11,495 units and 29M sq ft mixed use on 6,951 acrespublic hearing
- 3:46:45P7Boger Ranch MPUD — 215 single-family units in Villages of Pasadena Hills Village Fpublic hearing
- 3:46:45P8Tampa Premium Outlets conditional use — beer and wine outdoor kiosk salespublic hearing
- 3:55:08P9SDG South Acquisition LLC rezoning from AR to R4 — north of Collier Parkwaypublic hearing
- 3:56:24P10Resolution establishing street lighting area for Cyprus Preserve Phases 1B and 2Aresolution
- 3:57:15P11Resolution establishing street lighting area for Lakeside Phases 3, 1B and 2Bresolution
- 3:58:00P12Resolution consolidating Bexley Phases 2A and 2B into existing street lighting districtresolution
- 3:58:33P132019 paving assessments — west side US 19, 34 streets totaling 7.41 milespublic hearing
- 4:02:22AdjournmentMeeting adjourned — reminder of Cody River workshop this eveningadministrative
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] good morning everyone i would like to call to order the pasco county board of county commission meeting of june 19 2019 i would like to remind everyone to please silence all electronic devices at this time and would you please rise with me for the invocation and the pledge please buy your heads oh merciful creator your hand is open wide to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving providence and grant that we remembering the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts amen [Music] thank you district 2 commissioner moore here district 3 commissioner starkey district 4 commissioner wells here district 5 commissioner mariano here district 1 chairman oakley here thank you now's the time for public comment citizens are given an opportunity to comment on any item coming before the board during this public comment section the board also takes public comment on items and placed on the future board agenda another bit or other business under their preview public comment of public hearing items are taken during those individual public hearings beginning at 1 30 p.m individuals speaking during public comment will be given three minutes to speak after stating your name and address for the clerk the timer will will start located on the podium and a countdown after two minutes one beat will sound and the light on the timer will change from green to yellow letting you know that you have one minute remaining after the timer time is up two beeps will sound and the light on the timer will change from yellow to red indicating three minutes are up and you should close your comments okay we have a puppeteering sheet we have five people signed up to to speak dan moore bill skaggs and then bob hutchinson in that order to begin with is mr moore here thank you my name is dan moore i live at 8518 fox hollow drive in port richey florida i want to thank you chairman commissioners for the opportunity to speak i've been here a year i live right on the curve by little road on fox hollow we are overwhelmed with motorcycles popping wheelies cars flying around each other since i've lived there i've seen three cars on the corner flip over in people's yards the road has no yellow lines in the middle it's worn off
3:46there's actually an elementary school right down from us and there's actually a passing in the school zone and it's a 30 mile an hour speed limit and i don't see any reason why there should be a passing zone in 30 mile an hour residential road all i'm asking for today is i've talked to police officers and they directed me here so i'm asking if we get a little cooperation because our sidewalks are very very close to the street and if one child walks out there the speed that these cars are doing we're going to lose somebody and i think that there's something that should be done and i know there's something that can be done i appreciate your time today and thank you thank you for your comments if you could i know yes commissioner um mariano myself kind of we both have that area if you want to go out in our office outside and get with the secretaries we'll get those addressed and get traffic guys out there to address the striping and take a look at that today so if you could just right outside the door to the left thank you is that the next speaker is bill skaggs and then followed by bob hutchinson and then alan rose if you want to go ahead and come forward thank you 85 13 fox hollow drive port richie florida as i got the same plan what he said about the rockets driving the by and then what going on like the other day there's a guy came by i stared at him because he got mad because i walked across the street he had i had plenty of time to walk across he looked back and he went and gave me a finger cuts me out and all that and there's one day i was going down a little road there's two of them i was doing that pop-up all the way down the road that was hit about that much and plus there's a lot of playing is i take my grandchildren school every day up there at the old church up there on um little road there's about eight or ten deputies sitting there just shooting the when they could be there at the on fox hollow with radars and plus i got i got handicapped kids up down the road on wheelchairs i got dogs people walking their dogs and people just blind up the road like they're going like they're on i-75 that's all the planes i got all right thank you thank you thank you thank you sir we'll address it okay okay we don't we don't generally respond during public comment but okay i said we don't we don't generally respond during the public comment why not yeah but something's got to be taken care of so i got three grand children they can't go
6:36out in their yard play become scary they're gonna hit and i got almost got ran over about three or four times i go across my friend's house there and i'm they're way back they come flying there you know like i-75 you know i think chase daniels is here maybe chase you can address his current concerns we'll take care of our traffic stuff but you can take care of the wheelies thanks all right thank you thank you thank you next speakers bob hutchinson then alan rose then diane kobernick good morning mr chairman members of the board i also was a chairman of commissioners for seven years up in new hampshire so it's not easy for me because i've sat up there so i know what you folks are going through thank you sir can you state your address for the right my uh address is 80 38 fox hollow drive on the corner of marlington and fox hollow um i started a petition in march after i had 24 crashes in front of my home the reason why we have these crashes and it isn't all about the speed that intersection is blind on one corner which is coming south from marlington lane jasmine to fox hollow there's a home on the on the left hand corner you cannot see past the home we also have a fence that goes down along there you can't see past the fence there's also a huge oak tree that goes over the top of the road that cannot see that i have pictures on my phone but anyway if you pull up to the stop sign you're looking here the road is 32 feet down in front of you the box hollow if you pull past there and put your head of your car on that road your front end is now laying down the road from my house because somebody has already picked it off i have pictures of kids that are crossing that road their parents do not want them walking pops all them so they come up with uh go down moorhead and come up winthrop when they get to that corner i happen to be going out one day i see these three kids first grade second grade or whatever crossing that busy road one we have no crosswalks two do we need a crossing guard i don't know but i've been crossing those kids from march until the end of the year whether it's right or wrong those kids and i've got a picture you would not believe it there's cars all over the place and they're both right across that road all we want to do is make this place safe yeah that's all we want to do we're worried about the kids people run into each other all day long i've seen cars drive up over talk of each other they just cut the corner they don't care nobody cares they run into each other they back up say hide by and go i'm worried about these kids i'm a 68 year old man i'm from new hampshire all my grandkids are up there and i'm hoping
9:21somebody's taking care of them up there also but i really would like a visual and i think i already know commissioner moreno anyway through a buddy of mine we've built the house down on boat ramp okay yeah yeah very good yes i am the drummer okay so anyway i want to thank you all for your time but i would like a visual so i can walk you walk through with this besides bone seeing is is the picture i've driven it many times and i never felt comfortable going down that hill as you get to that point anyway so i i know what you're talking about it's you know and yeah like i said i never i never noticed really the broken line so we'll i'll come down if you would when you talk to the receptionist give give all your information and we'll get together yes sir thanks thank you thanks for your comments thank you the next speaker is alan rose followed by diane kobernick if anyone else wants to speak after that you can form a line after diane good morning for the record please second motion receiving file i got a second all those in favor say aye aye aye yes sir thank you good morning my name is alan rose 10221 hilltop drive newport richie today i'm just coming to go over some things with you in the coastal barrier resource system that we have that we don't take advantage of and this is a little i know you all would recognize this from 2014 when you sent out this invitation it's been since this time that i've been coming to you and bringing you all the different things you were looking for harbors redevelopment at that time i brought you the five different economic engines that we could affect on the our coast today 250 million dollars is what is available to florida through the coastal barrier resource system our section of the coastal barrier resource system there's we're quadrant four there's five or six different quadrants so we can we can attach to this and get funding it'll fund it all types of things the roads that we continuously have problems with with storm damage where it comes up percolates up and throws there's money in this funding and we're not talking just a few thousand dollars we're talking there's millions of dollars available for road funding that's storm damage there's millions of dollars available for our coastal needs you just have to go you can attach these through fema you can attach these it's it's the program is actually in the department of interior but you can go to fema go go write to them and they'll help you get through to this mr chairman
12:13mr chairman yes you know i just jack and i just took a class on funding for transportation and and i've been in other meetings where i've learned about funding opportunities that we don't take advantage of so i would like to set an appointment with you and our federal lobbyist and um let's talk about what the possibilities are because if we don't ask we're not going to get any of it so if you go inside um and speak to kb my um secretary will set up meeting up with my our federal lobbyist sure okay and i appreciate you coming here over and over again trying to get us to do something and i'm gonna try and act on it today's real thing is cruise lake cruise like we're doing you're going to be doing a recharging with reclaimed water and that is a great effort i applaud that that's the right thing to do but for the drawdown on the on the millions of gallons of water that's drawn out of the aquifer up there that's only going to make a dent you need to have another source of fresh water you have to percolate the reclaimed water and filter it no different way so it's still going to go there it'll make a dent this is where you can make you can fill a cruise lake every year every rainy season you can top up cruise lake with this this is bear creek this is the flow of bear creek and it's not even on rainy season you i went i went to our storm water people and i gave them this information i gave them a plan i did not uh that plant did not make it to me and my electronic means so it's not here with this but your stormwater people know how to do it you can take this water and get it up to cruise lake very simply and you can have an unlimited amount of water recharging that aquifer up there that's in dire need so you have that and i've included the usual all the different parts i've brought to you before you're welcome to use it if you have any questions i'm always available like i said this was great you got me started with this back in 2014. and i applaud all of your efforts it's been wonderful so i'll continue on and and bring you what information i have if can make a difference it's all for pascal county thank you very much thank you thank you mr chairman if i could yes um you know with mr rose's excitement and knowledge and enthusiasm for the county especially for the coastal resources i nominated him for the the bp uh restore consortium committee that we have so you're an alternate on it so he's bound by sunshine lot now so i'm trying to direct him to go to pam to go through it this is okay doing a public forum but on a private meeting if you're the alternate then you get a sunshine thing
14:54well i'm not i don't that's why we're going to be we're going to be meeting with the lobbyists to see what opportunities are that's that's fine just just i'm just i'm just trying to caution just be careful of the road because i'm trying to get him into the couple with leverage with leveraging with the monies we can get so just just a note of caution and that's why i separated it with this is the coastal barrier resource system and the coastal barrier resource act versus the restore act yeah no again if they come to leveraging together we've got to be just cautious of it that's all and i and i greatly appreciate all your efforts all right thank you thank you thank you all right thank you diane kobernick if anyone else wants to speak after diane after ms kobernick then please get in line thank you good morning so often you know i mean by diane now sorry i'm diane coburn at 5001 south shore i am a gulf harbors united member commissioners recently the april 2019 national foreclosure rates were released password county foreclosures jumped 112 pasco ranks ninth in florida but nationally there's a decrease of 13 you all approved all this new construction along 54 and recently and even another 700 7 000 acres more bringing 30 000 people to the area you waive many dollars of impact fees for closed empty abandoned homes and businesses do not help pasco's images here's a reality that must be considered although the property taxes in pasco are a little lower you've created an abundance of non-ad valorem taxes that are out of control you increased term water last year by 67 percent your recent decision of recycling has created a 35 increase to your constituents street need paving you created paving assessments my quick research of pvas that you call found under a hundred different paving assessments property owners receiving p p vast bills from a thousand to thirteen thousand dollars for your own documents the value added to the tax bills is over thirteen million one hundred and forty three thousand dark streets you created street light assessments my quick research showed 11th street had street light assessments thousands of dollars to property owners this provided an additional 100 000 of revenue for pasco and those rate has just been increased you created msbu and subdivision to manage the subdivision in effect creating mandatory hoas for example fox ridge where you assess property owners 2293 i'm never going to finish and implement the desired road to clean the major ditches in the subdivision that created 63
17:53tax increase so i'm going to finish because obviously i'm not going to finish my my speech with all these msbus mstu's the penny for pasco you've now created so many non-ed alarm taxes there's it's no wonder why people just walking away from pasco county i suggest that pastor county will not be known as sports coast it's going to be rather known as a foreclosure capital you approved so many millions of dollars for stock studies and lobbyists and remodeling your offices that's your spending but the people that need the money that need help such as jasmine lake for their water gulf harbors for their water you now worry about the extra taxes on your constituents thank you for your comments if anyone else wants to speak you can come to the podium okay see no one come forward then this ends the public hearing public comment this morning and at this time before we go to the consent section i have a uh emergency item that we need i need a motion for move yeah move the emergency to consider changing the modification the consenogen and the addition of the published addendum second okay i got a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye aye motion pass okay consent agenda i have the following items pulled uh c15 revise c10 revise c43 revise c12 revise a dash c1 revise c52 revise c-27 withdrawn c-28 withdrawn c9 pull and discuss c21 pull and discuss c29 withdrawal okay entertain a motion for the balance of the items not on this list pull this we'll approve the remainder of the consent agenda second got motion a second all those in favor say aye aye all opposed lack sign motion pass first item will be c-15 good morning good morning uh we pulled c15 to revise the error in the fiscal impact section of the agenda memo is that we recommend for approval river brewers second got a motion second all those in favor say aye aye thank you okay motion pass c10 good morning commissioners andrew baxter facilities management director facilities management real property and planning division asked to pull and revise c10 pursuant to the title company's request to add language to the deeds to incorporate section 270.11 of florida state statutes related to
21:15mineral rights all the deeds have been revised and copies distributed accordingly we recommend approval second motion a second all those in favor say aye aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass c-43 good morning commissioners mike schumache uh public i mean animal services director um c-43 is pulled to add the correct or revised to add the correct budget journal entry and that's been included recommend approval okay second i have a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass c12 good morning brent wall fleet management director uh c12 is a poll and revised to update a fiscal year 19 remainder projection cost uh to a reduction of 186 000 approximately for approval and um discussion yes yes i was going to be pulling this item um i know it was back in last august that you guys started this thing in november um and there was like a statement of introduction on tab a there was no responses or no scores location workload no scores required forms no scores there was only two firms that were bidding on this and my concern was we looked at the first one that was on there it didn't have any detailed pricing as far as what we're going to be paying compared to what we had been paying i'm not doubting that we're going to save money i think it's a good idea what we're doing but the comparison from one to the other is not there there's nothing about the firm b there's nothing to say what we're actually going to pay for these supplies even though those have one little comparison sheet about what it's supposed to be i would like to get better information about what the other firm was going to do you know it's great to hear about service and how we're going to save based upon a 10 markup but if i don't know what that base number is for the markup and what these parts were compared to what we're paying i think it's too quick to go pull the trigger i'd like to get a continued two weeks i'd like to go look at what the other information was go compare it go look at some numbers if they're there if they're not there that's even more concerning to me but i think we i'd like to continue this two weeks until i can get more information okay what's the pleasure you got a motion but no second second all those in favor say aye aye
23:59all opposed like that motion pass all right a-c-one good morning mike cook pasco county surveying and mapping uh there was a on the memo the uh second bond was incorrect it's been fixed and recirculated suggested approval with another change second i got a motion a second all of them in favor say aye aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass thank you c-52 good morning curt schreibel pasco county public transportation director there are a couple of changes to the pull and revise the first one is we started the effective date on the contract and added that second one was as we modified the compensation to move it to advanced payments for the month also the performance guarantee we modified the language to accept other forms of performance bonds and lastly we had the uh we had to delete one of the insurance uh things that was in there to make it more uh compatible okay a little approach changes second got a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye all opposed lock sign motion passed uh c27 c28 both were withdrawn uh c9 that's me going to discuss um i uh i have a constituent that also wants to um do some landscaping improvements on this property and it came to my attention that our our ordinance requires a landscape architect and i wonder if that was is really necessary because that really increases the cost so i i wonder if we might um be able to adjust that to also include um you know professional landscape whatever what another word is because i've used um the guy from the landscape place on landscape creations on plath and he's a professional has been doing it for 30 40 years and he doesn't have a architect degree and i i don't know why you need architect degree to plant some palm trees and some bushes so i'd like to make it easier for our citizens to be able to landscape their property uh victorious pizzas the planning development department the code the land development code the provisions and the code do allow for alternatives to landscape architects oh it does because he came to me and said he couldn't um proceed with the project because it required a landscaped architect that's david spezza on the three four or four five-story building on 19. yeah my understanding is that there is an allowance for an alternative to a landscape architect you can have um i forget the exact term there you go nursery is what's referred to in the states a professional or there's a reference to the state statute
27:06landscape architecture nursery man okay so whatever that i don't think that is our staff may not be relaying that to everyone who's applying so let's make sure that that's getting down the yeah so there is an alternative available okay we can talk to them if if you'd like yeah please do approval um you're going to let him know a second with more discussion yes mr chairman i've had the same discussion as well with other folks being stuck at that landscape architect thing so that drives up the cost quite a bit as well i want to see a lot of flexibility if someone's in the professional industry whether it be a landscaper or whatever it's planting plants as long as they fit the the plans that we have and what's approved we should be able to let this go through rather than those requirements so if you could let your whole staff know that would be just what we want to have just reiterate that they don't have to use an architect well they have to use whatever the code requires or you need to do an amendment to the land development but they said it doesn't have to be an architect let's be written in the code now is he is he wrong i'm not saying i'm not saying that he's wrong what i'm saying is what i'm hearing from the commission is anyone who can who deals with plant plants that there isn't there is a specific criteria in the code if they meet that criteria they should be able to go forward if the board wants it more liberal than that you're going to have to amend the code right because many times when you use say someone like landscape creations or others they will do the plan for free if you use their plants and i think we we just want to encourage that as much as possible to get more in the ground mr chairman yes so you stated that quote a nursery man yes is it yeah so it's a worker in or owner of a plant or tree nursery so that means any worker [Music] at a plant or tree nursery would be sufficient it would be according to what the state statute identifies for a nursery man well that's what a yeah there's a there is a state statute that requires a certain level of expertise for submitting plans to us for review and i think so i guess we need to figure out what the state statute considers their definition of a nursery man but i'm looking at the definition that says a worker in or owner of a plant or tree nursery yeah i would like you to someone to get that to us we will and then we'll see if we need to tweak that a little bit i'll do and with that i'd move approval second second motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye because if it's all opposed
29:38motion pass c21 that's me too i believe yeah that's you too yep okay so um i um in working with sam um and others on landscaping some of our trails it's come to my attention that we are using the tree mitigation trust fund and i'm confused because when i look at all the materials on u.s on u.s 19 i i see f dot grant f dot grant f dot grant but then i was shown an email where we're taking hundreds of thousands of dollars of the tree mitigation trust fund so when did that happen and i don't think the board to prove that so why so why is it being reserved i think that was a proposal i don't i don't know what the the funding is i specifically it's from a email from i think deborah boldock or margaret that i've seen in the email change that of taking about half of the 400 thousand dollars out of the communication i've seen that email i do not think that has been reviewed and approved by the board which would have to review and approve that as a budget amendment okay so i think just just to offer a um suggestion on this here uh this this what's coming before you today is to approve the design for additional phase three that's budgeted and approved the million-dollar grant we're going to receive from fdot for the landscaping when we get closer to actually going into construction phase we'll come back before the board with different funding alternatives and at that point we can look at the tree mitigation or also other alternatives so are are we not staying within the budget from f dot or why are we rating the tree mitigation trust fund and i think that's something we're going to bring back before you i think we have the million-dollar grant that we're moving forward with million dollar shake yes yes but on this particular phase we're phasing it in so on those sections if it's above that cost then we'll just have have to have an alternative budget line item i look forward to that seeing all that we'll be glad to bring that but i just wanted to bring that up yeah mr chairman thank you yes and and back up commissioner starkey i agree 100 we get the state grant we need to find a way to stay within what we've got i don't i don't want to use that i mean just like we use this business if i get people up and down around this county that want to improve their business and use this landscaping grant especially with making sure they don't need a landscape architect i think there's going to be a lot more interaction to spruce up this county so i don't want to take away from that fund especially because we're taking over all the liability to maintain it
32:22and if i could the trees look phenomenal out there you guys doing a great job getting a lot of positive feedback i appreciate everybody's support and fdut is working with us right now to approve the alternative design standards for the phase two but good question just take a look if you would in the lower part i think it's by daily aluminum that's out there there's some of the lower lying bush that's there that's really not adhering or looking that good a lot of it most of it 95 looks phenomenal but just that little bit of start maybe it's kind of getting washed out a little bit just keep an eye on it absolutely all right then i have to maintain it right for how long one year yeah one year so thank you okay so move approval second american motion and a second to move approval all those maybe say aye aye opposed like saying motion pass the final item we had on the list was c29 this withdrawn so that ends the consent agenda we'll move forward to r1 thank you mr chairman okay so um i don't know if if adam was to come up to her or he can be ready for questions if need be but um we need to appoint a new tourism development council member um we have an opening and one of the great things is that if i'm not correct many years ago they had to do a lot of work to go out and find these individuals to join the tdc now we're getting a number of applicants that are actually coming to us so that just shows what a great job the team is doing in addition to you know the excitement around pasco county tourism so there was um five applications um that were submitted and be honest with you there's some there were great applications a couple were from hotels too but i think we do we've kind of hit our limit on hotelers we currently we don't need another um hotel um to be on the board so what i like to do is nominate mike bishop he's with big storm brewery and i think obviously so obviously you can agree how great a job um big storm has done and how involved they are in the community um especially when it comes to tourism and then we have a we have a we'll have an organization and a brand that's recognized not only in the password county but across the state of florida they're growing by leaps and bounds and we do not have a member that's even doing anything even closely they're doing and tourism breweries are actually a huge draw for tourism and as we continue to bring more
35:04and more to the area i think we definitely need a professional that can represent us on the on the board so that's my motion obviously i have a second so more discussion yes and just for more discussion i was i was looking at and i'm sure all the others are good and nothing wrong with your pick as well but i was i was leaning to kristen talking the marina manager of sunset landing she's been very active she's right on the coast and i think it's uh she would shoot a good job as well she actually served on the restore committee with us as well and i appreciate that we do have somebody in that industry with captain wendy already right so yeah i think that uh mike will do a great job he's on a safety town and he went through leadership pasco he went through our citizens academy and he is really um working hard to be a really really valuable citizen in our community and i think it'd be great honestly yeah and again every great applicants um it's what's awesome is again now we have people to choose from again before you were having to reach out and almost uh beg people to to join it at times but now that's not the case anymore so over time or open up and if there's another opening we have some great people that are willing to step up so but i suggest for those people that did apply to you know attend the meetings and and get involved in any way they can in addition to you know um what they're doing out the community already but they there's a lot of things they can do to get involved suggestion um why don't we start thinking about subcommittees yeah we've got a lot of people who want to serve right perhaps there's some work that could be done and so we can have that discussion with with adam or see if that's a possibility i think one adam can you just come up real quick what as our brand grows there's a lot of things that adam and his team want to do and some of these things like you just mentioned probably could come and play in the future because we're looking at a certain um recognition or certification so there's some things we'll probably need to add down the road all right let's before you start you want to go ahead and take care of the motion okay we have a motion on the floor in a second all those in favor say aye aye aye aye all opposed like saying okay motion pass all right adam thank you mr chairman yes sir yes yes sir uh commissioner moore we're looking at doing uh operations policies and procedures for the tourist development uh council as well as um [Music] sorry as well as bylaws that uh that our board has to follow but also the board of county commissioners will approve so as uh we grow we continue to grow we'll obviously want to add uh
37:40some people to the team yeah yes sir yeah and commissioner starkey i love the the idea of subcommittees for marketing promotional advocacy things that we do on a daily basis to have the community involved and supportive of those initiatives would be a great opportunity for us to get additional people involved in in our in our programming that'd be great thanks you'll reach out to mike and let them know that yes they're able to see him when's our next meeting next wednesday uh next wednesday yes sir right here we'll look forward to seeing them then thank you very much thanks thanks all right that's it for me okay uh at this time we have time certains that it's starting at 11 o'clock so we have a move right now that's that's on a time certain commissioner r1 is here if you want to go to go i mean r2 is here if you want to go here yes okay we'll do that yes sir good morning good morning david angle office of economic growth small and medium-sized businesses are the bedrock of the county economy and aj powers uh sources they're located on land of lakes boulevard just north of this wisteria loop is part of the foundation aj's power source has been in the county since 1987. they are a high technology company they make power solutions for the military commercial medical and industrial customers they focus on leds alternative excuse me sorry they focus on alternative energy custom solutions for um their customers they are expanding their business they are creating 20 new positions in the county the positions are 130 percent of the average county income and the the benefits to the county are significant if the board were to uh entertain and approve a job creation incentive for every dollar of the incentive the economy gets back seven dollars in return and we were making a uh approval recommendation and authorization recommendation of the board to approve this job creation incentive and mr james voepl is here today the ceo of the company to address the board and tell you a little bit about his business okay so is edc great oh and the pasco edc is here too yeah i'm sorry i'm james barbell um i'm a ceo of aj's power source um we need his name and address for the production did we get yeah do you have it on the agreement yeah we got it we'll need it okay it's on the agreement okay okay um we're primarily a defense contractor we design military power systems for military vehicles uh we support tier one government contractors
40:31people you know northrop grumman lockheed martin we are expanding and it's been wonderful to work with the edc and the pasco county group to help with that expansion the job incentive program is great for us so i thank you for your time excellent um do you do manufacturing do i understand that we do great well there's someone here that's going to chase you down when you walk away from the microphone i don't know if you saw our amb skills van out front when you came um you did not okay well i know you'll see it when you leave but um we have a manufacturing training program that um can help you and we get federal and state money to help you train your employees so um tom madano is here somewhere and i'm sure he's we're going to get him huh we're going to get him cause he's up next okay yeah stay okay stay for a few minutes and and um we're so glad that you're expanding that we could help you i appreciate it yeah before i make i'll make the emotion improve in a second but yeah we're so excited for you um happy that you're in atlanta lakes in that area um amazing things happening obviously across pasco county great to have a defense contractor and a veteran like yourself so thank you for being here thank you for adding those jobs we look forward to you expanding even more i'm sure you will um but i've only heard good things about you from from the team so we we appreciate that thanks in everything that you're doing so with that i make a motion to approve got a motion a second all those in favor say aye all right all opposed like son motion pass thank you thank you thank you and he'll be he'll be right in yeah board would you like to come down and get a photo yes down for a picture how are you that's my home job of wrapping up thank thank you appreciate it yes sir thank you and i'd love to come to your facility absolutely [Music] yeah that's what i was going to do yeah um all right so we've got a few minutes um so while we're waiting on 11 o'clock we'll go ahead with the old business we'll start with mr moore great thank you uh thank you mr chairman uh a couple things you know i just want to maybe have staff respond to some comments that were made earlier um i know a few weeks ago we had a an update by um staff that talked about home inventory in pasco county and from
44:53my understanding was we're still short on inventory for the demand i'm not correct there's more there's more demand than we have inventory at this time is that correct that that that is correct that obviously it doesn't mean on the back ends people aren't having financial issues of course that yeah that's so that happens but i think i recall the same news story yeah yeah so so speak that comment so we wrote a letter um to the hillsborough county npo asking them to keep the ice 275 expansion from mlk to bears on their on their tip um they did it was 11 to 5 vote so thanks to everybody on the commission for obviously writing that letter and hopefully we'll see that project move forward it can only be beneficial to our citizens in pasco county um secretary did a great job standing up for the process with that npo i took some time and watched the replay of that myself when he was speaking did not watch the whole entire meeting because i think it went to like one or two in the morning if i'm not correct but i did watch the portion where um secretary gwen spoke and he did a great job i think they had like four hours of public comment during that meeting um going back to our last our last npo meeting um we had a vote in reference to the kenan mansfield emergency connection what we did was we asked staff we gave staff direction to work with hillsborough county and tampa at that time well the mpo cannot give the county administrator direction so we need to do that today so i'm just asking to give the county administrator direction to reach out to hillsborough county and the city of tampa to see if they're still interested in paying their share of the emergency gate and bike path sidewalk connection again we gave that recommendation to or that actually we actually gave that um we told staff to do that at the last minute but we have to do it here today so for discussion although i'm all in favor of that project i just wonder when we need say pinellas county or hope that they will widen east lake road and that intersection at trinity and east lake or do something for our citizens who are heading south will they ask us to pay for it and should we i mean that's just a that's a that's a pandora thing that we're opening so no it's not because it was hillsborough county in tampa that wanted the emergency access okay we're not asking for it okay well yeah that's what we discussed at the npo meeting i didn't hear them say that they asked what i thought we were on many on the record many times in in
47:41in the media of stating that and they've stated it at their their meetings we don't need it going down it's just all of them needing it okay i mean i'm not saying it wouldn't benefit let's let's be honest i mean if there was a a terrible catastrophe or emergency i mean there's there's a chance that you know our citizens or our emergency vehicles could need to go the other way too um but it's been their concern because don't forget um our fire rescue is covering that section of hillsborough county for them right now right so it's not the other way around now they do help each other from time to time which we appreciate so again we're being good neighbors by saying we're willing to pay a third of that because it will be a benefit for all this more so for them but at the same time that's why i think it's appropriate that we go in for a third pasco hillsborough tampa all right is that a motion i don't do i need emotion i think it's just giving direction but if we need to we need emotion for that or is that just direction i think it's the direction of the sport and everybody not their heads i think they're okay i think i get i think i'm getting direction from the board to go ahead and work on that i don't necessarily need i don't need a motion for that as long as everybody's in agreement with that i'm good yeah thank you thank you thank you um i think many of you know that uh we we approved today i was c-44 on agenda um the human services liaison position and worked with the sheriff's office to help get people looped in to the services that and needs for the homeless mental health calls et cetera i think it's a great um thing that we're doing kathy commend your team for for for working with the sheriff's office on this but it's only going to be beneficial obviously to the entire community entire entire county so and then chase you know good job on your side in the sheriff's office so thank you all for working together on that last thing i just i don't want to bring it up but i just think we maybe it's worth a little bit of the discussion i talked to mr steinsteiner about this you know we've we've seen the in the media and the press and then we hear from health departments across the state about the hepa epidemic that's going on around throughout the state of florida um i did have some questions talked to mr stein snyder about is there any pos and just just to have the discussion but um is there any possibility to ask that are that restaurants local restaurants or people that serve food to require hep a shots for their employees to see if that might be a good idea worth of discussion but we can't even
50:11have the discussion because the state does not allow us and mr steinstein can explain more does not we it's we're preempted if i'm not correct by the state on that under under chapter 509 the restaurant services uh restaurant service establishments the regulation of which is preempted to the state interestingly it's the same section of the statute that preamp short-term rentals but yeah so it would sit under the dvpr i think to perform there's a professional regulation so just again thought we have some time up to this board is it is something we might want to talk to some other legislators about of looking at that um in tallahassee what can be done to you know add additional safeguards when it comes to this epidemic to try to put a stop to it because thankfully i know in pasco that none of the food workers have actually pass it on to patrons there's never that has not happened yet i double checked with mike napier on that to make sure um but at the same time if it happened one is too many yeah so that's a good conversation with the legislators i think it's a good conversation to have with our legislators yeah again unfortunately there's nothing we can do but i think it's worth a conversation if you want to have a minute visually or if we want to talk about it more down the road let's let's let's give it some more thought so okay and i think that is it for me so thank you okay starkey um so um many of you uh participated in the cares um waiter benefit luncheon um and i think it was very successful they had a record amount of people who came to be certified by some of us and i want to thank bonefish for for opening up their restaurant like they do um as you know i'm chair of naco's international economic development task force and we hosted our spring call on june 6th and one of our speakers was anna ashton who's the director of business advisory services for the u.s china business council and the other speaker was commissioner terence farrell from chester county pa and you might know him from naco and it's pretty amazing what they've done with international economic development and um and china and they now have a sister city over there and they have businesses from pennsylvania going over and starting in china and
52:49chinese businesses and investments happening in their in their community and i think just we should really pay attention to the opportunities that we have to engage with countries around the world and help and help our businesses expand so we need to uh work on scheduling another session on um growing global and helping our local businesses learn how to do business in other countries so i'll be working with the pedc and and our staff on getting something like that going we hosted the tma leadership group here on june 7th at the hilton garden inn and so let me introduce to you neely mckee she is the daughter of leah rosario who is what's your mom's title there direct yourselves she's director of sales but they um her mom has graciously opened up the hilton garden inn at north point for um county business so they donated to us the room for the meeting and we'll be also having our ccc meeting there let's see when does that date we'll be having a ccc meeting there um i can't remember when it is but it's coming up um so we want to thank um thank them for their generosity and you are going to be shadowing me all day and and today is a special day so um i i hope you have a wonderful time here we feel for uh let's see so we had a tampa bay water meeting that was uh again like contentious those meetings are really something um we don't have a resolution yet on the the tap project but i think we continue to dig away at it a little bit the uh the exact the board had the attorney who helped write the tampa bay water interlocal agreement come from gainesville mr nickerson to meet with our county attorneys to go over the question um the questions surrounding tampa's desire to become uh to sell self-source all their water um so we we uh the drama continues right fireworks back and forth and um i think that's awesome i'm going to see if there's anything else in here they pulled the tap project while we were there well they pulled the tap funding they we had offered to fund 1.6 million dollars tampa bay water did if the legislature did not fund it but stupidly when we said we would fund it why would the legislature fund it so we we shouldn't they should never have asked for that we shouldn't have done that until after the legislative session was over so um so they're not stopping the tap project they're just may not go for um tampa bay
55:43water money as they work towards their 60 percent design so they haven't pulled the project yeah just the just the funding from us and the strings that came with it so um we'll we'll see what happens there okay i think that's um that's it for me okay mr wells i do not but i just wanted to bring up and it's in commissioner starkey's district but the uh restore act for the key vista shoreline stabilization is very exciting especially with the kayakers i know there's some family friends that can't even put in there just because it's dangerous and so it's going to be nice to see that come to fruition i know it's a multi-year deal but it's pretty neat so mr wells we tried to go in there with our little jet boat which is like a glorified wave runner and we freaked out and turned around and definitely washed out so how they get out in a boat is i don't know how they do there's a lot of big boats back there that can't yeah they can't get out they're stuck in there anyhow it's but unfortunately that's going to be a a year and a half away with all the that looks the way government works that's all i'm chairman thank you okay mr chairman yes and i apologize because this is really a question for maybe the three commissioners that sit on that work with fact may know what i should ask those earlier pinellas county for any of you pinellas county said they lowered their dues back lowered their dues so they don't want artists too do we know i think they lowered by like four thousand dollars i think i see reduction reduction lowered reduction yeah like a re-cal classification i believe or ours actually actually has as may not because i think canelo's might have like stabilized we might have went higher so i don't my recollection is that the fact is are based on your population lost population that would cause their people's lost population well i if if that's professional they're all coming to pasco because they love it we're such a great county compared to the state average they're going they're not growing as fast yeah yeah i was just curious if anybody knew oh it's open they showed the chart i i i've got the data it was it wasn't much of a change for us we might have gone up a little bit now that you mentioned it but it was the budget was stable yeah but as we grow okay it does that it's yeah i just what was this went down four grand so we'll get you the the the dues thanks okay we'll get you that mr mariana um you know i'm glad to see would talk about mental health in a good way um i mentioned before when we uh have passed the referendum as far as looking at what charlotte county is doing as far as keeping people out of the jails with mental health they built a
58:17hospital next to it and i think at some point i know i've talked to staff and about going down there taking a look at that operation it may be good to talk to the charlotte county commissioners they i've even talked about whether they've been they could even come up and do a presentation for us to show what they've did and how it's working for them if that's will into the board i think is we're taking these steps probably the right time to go do it if you want to reach out and get a presentation okay and uh i'd like to say we uh we did very well with the uh the gulf consortium committee um for years we've been working on part one money which we had in the first allocation part three money uh that allocation has now been stabilized with the state expenditure fund and you know curtis franklin's in the audience i see you back there curtis was just a leader in that organization every step of the way as far as staying ahead helping with other staff members figure out what to go do and we were like the first ones to submit i think with hernando county for part one money part three money we're in the first round of funds as well over the next 13 years we're going to get about 4.5 million dollars a year and the way it was structured was we wanted to get all the products we could get done that were ready to go to get them done to help the gulf right away well because of our staff curtis and now pam lynch and company because we're making that move forward uh we actually applied for five million dollars worth of funding so more than the first four years worth and one commissioner questioned it discussion ensued and staff said well look we want to get these things done it won't affect everybody else in a big way because by the time they're ready to do their projects it'd probably time out well so all the other commissioners when we talked about all the other discussion between administrative and attorneys fees etc to make sure we put the money toward the projects i asked the question to uh the membership i said look i said i'm so proud of this organization for 23 counties to do something no one else has ever done to put this forward i don't want to overstep by asking for 5 million if you'd rather have me ask for 4.5 million to stay in line i'd be i'd willing to do that but we are we are ready to go and every single commissioner said no give pasco the 5 million even the gentleman asked the question said look i just wanted to make sure we're going to be okay with all the projects so because of our staff's great work we were allowed uh allocated the first five million dollars with our project and this is the port richie water uh port richie out hall project so it's i think we're against curtis you led the way uh staff pushed it all the way through pam lynch rob et cetera so i think we're in we're in very good shape um thank you on another note uh we had the uh florida
1:00:51association's annual conference uh and in it commissioner starkey didn't make it so i wanted commissioner starkey i watched i know she was there for the whole thing but uh she she missed she missed the presentation reward so i want to present her her award for the uh she's i'm going to read it to you commissioner catherine starkey pasco county has completed the advanced leadership program the florida forum for county leaders and here's my has conferred the designation of advanced county commissioner presented the 13th day june 2019 industries also got a little thing if you would like to take a picture and present this to you and i want to say commissioner starkey from the time you stepped on this board you saw the benefits to outside education outside involvement and i think this county has grown stronger and better for it and i want to thank you for that you know i it's because i saw it and was involved in the florida school board association i saw what that could what you could learn and what you could get accomplished so that's why i devote the time to the state efforts and the national efforts so thanks a lot so boy what do you say we present the short front of them this is like tiffany blue now i can hide my finger what did you do i have something really sexy called an infected hangnail [Laughter] does she get to keep it congratulations thank you very much [Applause] i didn't mention it but i was also um won the presidential advocate award and i think you won one as well yeah so congratulations to you too thank you and i've got one other award that the county was given was the for 2019 gov county government best practices award presented to pasco county connected city america's first gigabyte community built from the ground up for outstanding achievement and effective management of of county government facilities processes and programs there's an award that was very few of these given out so our team is our team is all here they're not all here they're they're actually working upstairs all right if it's the team that you've come forward too this is a this is a tremendous award they got a lot of accolades as well so okay yeah planning and david was part of that david i'm sorry david you're good okay danny david okay i know you hate it but i'm gonna be did all the work oh that's pretty cool is [Music]
1:04:57good job [Applause] because we have plenty of time tom doesn't go till 11 30. um were you no he's 11 15 ma'am and we have two others behind but he has to wait for dr gills who i my understanding will be here in just a few minutes um uh did you did you attend the opportunity zone breakout at fact i think i only got part of that i think it might be when the uh consortium meeting was going on right so um i had wanted to bring up opportunity zones are you okay if i bring that up absolutely um jack and i have i think at naco we we attended a session on opportunity zones and and um and i had some folks um talk to me about um their hopes to do a project and one and i just i just want to be really confident that we are jumping on that wagon as hard and as fast as we can um we learned in washington about um a woman who used to be a deo under i think her name was erin aaron do you remember her name i think her name is aaron and it's funny because when i when i was telling these folks and i can't remember who it was right now um that the county submitted like 13 zones opportunity zones and none of ours were selected there were other other people's selections were picked um they said that this girl this woman had a lot to do with that because we don't know how those other zones who pushed those other zones and what projects are in those zones so um i want to suggest that we maybe look at bringing aaron in which was recommended to us at that session in washington and just see she is a consultant but let's let's take a first go round and see see if we can find out what's going on here and if we can do um even more than we're doing because the the window is short and the amount of projects will um will there won't there aren't a ton of projects out there either so you kind of have to really be aggressive this is what i'm being told to go out and get some of these opportunities in the opportunity zone and i know david has um has done some great work um in the zones but i just don't think we're doing enough mr chairman if to follow with that i think it's a good idea maybe if we even had a an agenda item where we kind of brought the opportunity zones back at least show us on the map which ones were picked and as far as which ones could have been picked because we may have a project in
1:08:03one of our districts to say you know what this could work out well whether it be licoocci holiday hudson whatever we may say you know what i've got something that could actually work here to make something fly and if the public saw that they may say you know what i'm right in that area let me go do something yeah so maybe we could do an agenda item bring it back forward with the ones we picked and then the future ones that we could have picked that we can adjust later on just to be to be clear the state picked all the opportunities oh i know when i i talked to um who was the head of deo at the time about um how those got picked because those were not the ones we asked the governor to pick she said they only picked the ones that had projects that were going to move forward and so i said where is the list of the projects that the state saw that they felt that they would use those zones um in the you know that they would pick those zones and apparently this person aaron is the one who knows those projects so i'd like to find out if those are real and how we can partner with those people who are behind those applications to the governor for those specific opportunity zones okay mr chairman one one more thing and uh i think you've all heard me trying to like find a way to get dredging up and down up and down the coast i'd say at this point after the last meeting uh maybe even the previous meeting before that the new information with the boat boating fees where you can only use half of it there's really not much of a source to cause dissension amongst the whole county is not where i want to go so if the board is okay i'd like to do a maybe a public workshop i can either pick this location or neutral location and just start a dialogue with the people to see what type of involvement what type of interest i have what type of ideas i can draw from to go and i'm thinking of people that live on canals are very willing to to go forward and then we can probably look at the gulf consortium money for the part three balance of money or even part one money to try to like what can we do to kind of make this all happen and bring some ideas back to the board okay with the board members to do a workshop here we can do it here or i'm thinking the west paschal board of realtors might be a better location but just something to a public workshop gulf harbor community center might not be big enough it might not be big enough i don't like doing workshops unless they're in one of our in our abilities right i don't okay it doesn't sound like it's a board workshop no no a town hall meeting type thing much much like much like the stakeholder meeting this afternoon on the cody river project yes okay so much like that i'm sorry i use the wrong phrase maybe we set that
1:10:42up to be one of our team leads ad and then you're there to help facilitate so we can you know what might be good too is the new port richie chambers not bigger than this um we'll look at something we'll look at some locations with the commissioner okay all right that'll work that's awesome i want to be involved in it too so it would be a publicly noticed meeting with two at least two commissioners i would think commissioner wells would probably attend yes absolutely i don't think you're done you've got a young lady beside you i'm sorry peace center for girls okay i wanted to spend the day once and learned about she was she was here at the previous meeting out in the audience and now she gets come out then we're going to keep the pace girls coming in because we think so much of them the program is great glad you're taking advantage of it gail thank you very much for for keeping us going so thank you i'm just trying to get out of i wanted to class here i'm messing with you all right i appreciate you thank you good oh thank you now [Laughter] mr biles if if r3 is here and ready to go we can go do that okay well dr gills is kind of a part of that presentation it's his project so um we we think he'll be here momentarily okay well i'll be quick you're supposed to be happy and not be crying i am very happy okay forget about the crime but i love you guys all right so do you want me to go with my item yes that's yours so i just mentioned it uh but as a reminder there's a cody river trail underpass feasibility study workshop this afternoon it's the port ready council port richie council chambers and from four to four to seven so in development services and planning's leading that and that's not very big so anyway that's this afternoon um just want to let you make you're aware that um and we have just now within the last 30 minutes closed on all the general obligation bonds which means the money is in our account for the first issuance of that and so um moving forward on schedule uh for that right now and a note from parks real quick i know you are each one of your real big proponents some partnerships and they've fully now implemented the joint use agreement between us and the school district with the final um implementation at schroeder elementary and baynet point middle school to joint
1:13:25use which one schrader schroeder and bayonet point middle school i think were the last two what happened to encloat elementary is it still in i i'll have to get you an answer i'll i think keith can you answer who worked on it we'll have to get you an answer commissioner this is a joint use agreement to joint use of facilities so yeah i thought ankle and cloak elementary was one of them well this is just the last two so that oh doesn't mean the others haven't been implemented so okay there's a whole list of them yeah get up the whole list that would be great we yeah if i could and you know i know we've had the conversation i know it's been something i pushed and i know commissioner starkey you know because when i was a kid you're able to go back to the schools and play ball and stuff and where are we able to up that number to get more more of them together we have to voluntarily we'll work with the school board we'll talk i would love to see all of them you know like hudson elementary was one that again i went back to as a kid and was able to play out there and the now that's all high fenced i just i'd love to see that get pushed a little quicker so you know i was after our last meeting i was driving around dade city and you if you drive by the um what is it um pasco middle pasco pascal middle no fences playground's open to the community right we're safe on the east side yeah it's just that's how it should be i mean that's how it used to be and schools are safer when more people who care about them are around them and if if families were out there all weekend playing no one would be breaking in because someone would be there watching it so when i when i was on the school board and i took a safety class after um the shootings in colorado they told me that four foot fence does absolutely nothing but make it harder for kids to escape if there is an issue then they all have to funnel out of one area and then they're easy picking so i tried to get the school district to stop doing the fences but they went the other way so that's all i have good points sorry you got mr steinsteiner um at fac last week i had a meeting with the pinellas county attorney to discuss the board's letter to them um they've gotten the message but um they they're proceeding with the litigation there there is a concern by county attorney and board members that some of the broad language
1:16:01uh that was in the opinion uh would have implications beyond taxes and um so we said we'd continue to talk about where her board was going um and whether there were opportunities for pasco county to receive revenues from pinellas county in lieu of their tax bills and that's their board hasn't made a decision on that but that was one of the discussions we had was a payment in lieu of taxes um like is sometimes done for a governmental uh when a governmental entity requires a private facility that had been paying taxes um but their main concern with more than anything else is that the that the case could be the opinion could be read to say that once out of the jurisdiction the county has no sovereign immunity even even for personal injury cases that sort of thing which which would have ramifications for us as well but i'll keep the board informed as those discussions continue well yeah but they're still this setting this precedent which is alarming to me that this could continue again i mean again what's the again what's to stop another city or county from rolling in another one again and not just purchasing some land well they're working their land and making revenue off it but who's to say that again we can't go in there and buy some beachfront property so end up being serious you know beachfront property and not allow their citizens on and only allow pasco county citizens because we own it and then not pay taxes on it i mean that that's could happen i'm not saying we would do that but i mean i'm using that as an example right just the president they're saying it's ridiculous i mean pay your freaking taxes just like everybody else does and they're making 2 million a year off this property it's ridiculous um mr attorney why why would they lose their sovereign immunity if they're paying taxes the the opinion that came out from the second dca basically said that that they lost their sovereign immunity out of county and that's where it ended that's where the opinion ended and so the problem with that is you need to understand that is an implication for you all too so which when i first came on the board commissioner schrader was working very hard to purchase that from pinellas county um is that
1:19:11and there were there were commissioners on there that wanted that that to happen um some of those commissioners in pinellas county didn't want to be owning property in another county um is that something that this board wants to talk about can i mr chairman can i answer that yeah so i watched the board meeting and there was no interest in wanting to sell that property to password county if i'm not correct um the current chair mentioned that she had changed her mind and was having a conversation with another member that said she said she agreed with him now that they shouldn't sell it so it seems like there's no interest on their side to sell it again i don't think we have um 50 million dollars just sitting around in a in a hole in the backyard to go buy a piece of property like that too part of me i think it's conservation i don't think it'd be 50 million i think it would be it's a large person there was a number floating around before so if if the parts that are generating the water are owned by tampa bay water is there concern is there concern to hang on to it um yeah that that's oh though um i'm not correct is are they hanging onto it in case tampa bay water falls apart to be you know the that's not likely that they have a water source i don't know what their their um why their why they hung on to it um it appears that in hillsborough the the well facilities and the lands surrounding it were conveyed to tampa bay water pinellas when that decision was made 25 years ago um they had they hung on to everything but all they gave up was the wellhead basically right and whether it's a whether it's a a matter of trying to protect it from development or whether it's it's [Music] they just hung on to it for their own reasons that's um i i have not got didn't ask that question and and we didn't discuss that one one more question mr yes could citizens of the county not file a class action lawsuit against pinellas county over this for what for the for the tax dollars no they can't no i don't i don't see it i don't see a claim you know as a as a third as a citizen now no i think that i think the property appraiser is the is the appropriate well yeah person to keep going sure
1:22:03and or and or the tax collector too could possibly mr trump jump in on that too mr maryland i mean logically the way i look at it is you've got a county running a business in another county yep they shouldn't have sovereign immunity if they're going to run a business they should be insured they should be paying revenue and they should be paying taxes yeah yeah that's all i've got i know you're not thinking about it i'm done now okay it's a true business they're ready they're running the timber business um i just wanted to let you know um last october i think when i gave you the surplus funds you agreed to give 25 000 to four organizations and those are sunrise of pasco salvation army domestic violence shelter [Music] pace and the volunteer way all of those checks were distributed and they were shocked but i want you to know that you're going to get that money back in prevention services that they perform that's going to go much further all four of those agencies affect my office and we work closely with them so i appreciate you letting those surf surplus funds that you weren't expecting um go to them to do wonderful things thank you okay that's it i don't have anything today is uh dr hill here nope so you don't just break for five minutes um yeah let's we can take a five minute break they said he's almost here so um did sean step outside okay i think you know yeah he should be here anymore all your people are here okay so we will take rs2 so yes nikki wanted to read the resolution mickey's here come forward nikki oh our s2 okay yeah our ass too if you would to have the rest of the team come up with you behind you yeah okay you know who you are is it rs1 that we're doing rs2 this is rs2 okay i think my book is not done right today okay a resolution from the podium by the board of county commissioners resolution number 19-187 it's going to be all right a resolution by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida expressing appreciation to dr paula s o'neal phd pasco clerk of circuit court and county comptroller for her nearly 32 years of outstanding service
1:25:26whereas dr paul o'neill was born thank you harold our tech maybe i should stand back okay whereas dr paul o'neill was born and raised in the heartland of our country in st louis missouri where she played collegiate softball for and graduated from missouri state university in 1976 with the bachelors of science degree anne raz paula began a career public service as program director for charleston air force base followed by teaching something she continues today and pursued her passion for athletics and park and recreation by joining charleston county south carolina parks and recreation department in 1985. ann raz fate brought her and her family to pasco county in 1987 where she was hired by the pasco county board of county commissioners in its park and recreation department as the administrative division manager coordinating the financial and operational aspects including the implementation of a voter approved bond referendum for parks and recreation which expanded the park system the county enjoys today from 22 to 36 parks and raz in 1993 paula transferred to the board's community services department as its administrative services manager where she oversaw numerous grants and special funding resources that provided critical services to the county's citizens such as social services veterans services animal control and sexual abuse victim services she played a critical role in the automation of the pasco county public transportation system improving dispatch scheduling and office administration at the same time she continued her passion for education at night and on weekends to earn a masters of science and management from the national lewis university in 1993. with this new credential she returned to the classroom as an adjunct professor at pasco hernando community college and raz in fall 2002 the honorable jed pittman then clerk of circuit court for pasco county convinced paula to join his team where she swiftly rose to chief deputy clerk all while further pursuing her educational goals of becoming a certified public manager through florida state university and attaining a doctorate in philosophy in applied management and decision sciences from walden university in 2010 and razz on november 4th 2008 paula was elected to succeed mr pittman and began her first term on january 6 2009 and whereas paula's vision and leadership led the office to implement numerous technological advancements which provided efficient business operations and convenient online access to services for customers many legacy systems were replaced with modern technology such as the replacement of a 1978 mainframe criminal justice information system with the clericus case maintenance system a new financial system a new jury management system the implementation of electronic filing and recording so many more improvements could be listed but we're running out of space in this resolution
1:28:31and raz paula adopted an office mission of we serve with integrity professionalism and compassion as we safeguard our customers interest and a vision of excellence always with dedication to these standards demonstrated knowledge and recognized leadership paul was subsequently re-elected twice on november 6 2012 and november 8 2016 by such an overwhelming majority the voters of the voters showing confidence in her ability that she was referred to as dr 80 by some of her fellow elected officials and raz throughout the time paula worked in these positions she further served the citizens of pasco county and state through leadership of and active participation on numerous boards committees agencies and organizations related to her official duties as clerk and controller including the florida court clerks and controllers where she served as president in fiscal year 2013-2014 the florida local government investment trust fund the florida supreme court the florida court clerks of court operation corporation and many many others and res in addition to the organizations related to her official duties paula has been a tireless leader in community civic and not-for-profit organizations serving to make paso county a better place to live and raise families including the central florida behavioral health network florida west coast credit union regional medical center bayonet point pasco homeless coalition advisory board college and school advisory boards and again many many others and razz in 2010 paula's compassionate spirit drove the creation of clerks for a cure whose primary focus at its inception was fighting cancer the not-for-profit raised nearly 100 000 for the american cancer society in its first five years and has since diversified its focus to include additional support for other organizations working to improve the lives of others in our community in a twist of fate while spearheading clerks for cure and volunteering for the american cancer society and it's making strides against breast cancer fundraising and awareness campaign she found herself facing the life threat the life-changing challenges of fighting this cruel disease here too she courageously battled and became the cherished representative for fight like a girl chaired the making strides event while in treatment and continued to fulfill her numerous responsibilities with the groups and organizations previously mentioned she wrote a book titled fighting cancer like a girl on her experiences and feelings during this time and while in retirement will travel to share the message that there is hope for cancer patients okay ann raz wanting to do more for pasco paula established the juror donation program where jurors can donate their service payment
1:31:26as allowed by florida statute to the guardian of item salvation army domestic violence shelter and sunrise of pasco domestic violence shelter and since may of 2014 more than 70 thousand dollars has been donated to support these organizations and raz for her tireless service to our community paula received many recognitions and awards such as outstanding public administrator from the american society for public administration outstanding public service award from the west pasco chamber of commerce almost there how many pages of this you're supposed to be proud sorry paula outstanding government service award from the west pasco board of realtors justice award from the west pasco bar association businesswoman of the year from the tampa bay business journal and again many many more i practiced this and i didn't cry okay andres paula led an award-winning office recognized for its many innovations and best practices such as ten achievement awards from the national association of counties certificates of excellence in financial reporting from the government finance officers association continued from 1983 through 2018 and distinguished budget presentation award from the gfoa every year since 2012. last page and whereas dr o'neill's dedication and dependability in the performance of her job duties as the clerk of the board for the county commission has made her a truly valuable asset for the board its departments committees and operations and whereas during her many years as a public servant in pasco county paula diligently and conscientiously served our community the citizens and businesses in her positions ensuring integrity while providing outstanding service and whereas paula chose not to seek reelection and retire from the office of the clerk and controller on june 30th 2019. and whereas it is no surprise that while not uh i'm sorry it is no surprise that paula will not be the retiree who chooses a slower pace of life rather she plans to spend countless hours with her beautiful granddaughters travel the world volunteer in the community continue to help cancer fighters write more books and continue teaching as an adjunct professor for saint leo university and the florida center for public management at florida state university and whereas the board of county commissioners and paula clerk and controller team deemed it appropriate to officially recognize dr o'neill for her outstanding contributions to this board the county and its citizens done their now therefore be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida that said board hereby expresses its deepest appreciation to dr paula s o'neill for her nearly 32 years of service to the
1:34:19citizens of pasco county done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 19th day of june 2019. approval second motion a second all those in favor say aye aye aye well this was um my resolution i'm pretty sure and um i just uh i'm i'm gonna miss you but i'm also jealous that you get to go and and have a whole another career now i know that you will continue to do things but that that resolution and what was read and i'm sure we could have put even more in it doesn't begin to describe the value you have had have have to this community to this citizenry in this county and it's just an incredibly impressive um written record of what you've some some of what you've accomplished here and you know you will be missed and you will always be a legend here in this county so i'm really happy to sponsor this and i know um we are very proud of you and we are glad that you are our clerk yeah we're all proud of you yeah so let's go down the line we'll go down the line here so dr o'neill you know now i it's just like commissioner starkey just mentioned you are a legend for the county and you'll continue to be a legend for this county you do so much good not just your position but just again for so many people and you're an inspiration for so many people and i had a great time sitting next to you for that year when i was chair we had a good time right but um you'll be missed but we'll see you around often i know that you you won't disappear um we're probably seeing even more functions now because you'll have a little extra time when you're not working to enjoy some of those things but just enjoy your family thank you you know enjoy your family enjoy your granddaughters and uh yeah that's pretty cool you gotta travel too so i am a little jealous of that of that but uh again i hate to say yo you will be messed here but we won't miss you in the county because we're gonna keep continuing to see you and and hang out with you and have a good time right so okay well i've known you since i was literally a kid i was little one time um it's it's and i really wish my my father would be here too um wow you know for me who would have thought i'd be sitting up here you know with you um it's i don't want to get choked up but but it truly is an honor you know i can remember if the first day i got elected you invited me over to visit your team and what i envisioned pasco county being
1:37:03with the team being bought in just engaged excited that's what your team is that's how they are and i tell you it's it's we have a great team at the county and they're they're there i mean it's nice when you go into county departments now all 57 departments that's how they are they are happy to see folks and it wasn't always that way you know you've been you've been here but it you truly are a great leader um love my time with you as as mike said i was up sat next to a couple years but it was it's good to bust chops with you and i know again your team i know everybody wishes they could be here but you have to still let people pay tickets and everything but you'll be missed but don't change your phone number i still going to bug you so but yeah excited i could be here for this you it was such a great resolution so so so in depth and the history and and not knowing really how much involvement you probably were with that parks referenda that really made a difference in this county um i know i i could just feel your impact on that uh from the meetings we started with golden corral when i first was elected he'd kind of bring us in we kind of meet and talk about a few different things um the i'd say when we we campaigned back in 2008 you and i spent a lot of time together going everywhere uh and then we were kind of like where are we going today where we're going today and just on and on and on and just watching how hard you worked at it how much passion you had for the position and the presentation you put on made you was just a just a completely impressive candidate that not only showed what you were going to do but then as nikki just read implementing it every step of the way what you've done uh from coming to us looking for bus passes to to help the the jurors get to where they needed to go made a lot of sense and we you know the boards were always fully supportive of it so what you've done has been tremendous civically um i don't think anyone's done any more charity work in the planet than you you've done and i tell you when you when you reach out to the the girls from pace knowing you're making a difference in those lives for all the people in sunrise as well all those groups that you've affected and made a positive influence on i just thank you so much you've been a great asset well getting close a few more days and we have another presentation right after this real quick yeah i mean for paul i'm going to finish first yeah for paul just watching the time paul it's been great working inside you this year thank you and i put you to work a little extra i didn't know me adding a little something to your schedule up here that it would cause you
1:39:34to want to retire but i guess overworked you and you said it's time to go so yeah but i can't believe all the things they read how great they are i can't i find it hard to believe that at your young age of 21 that you were able to do all those things you know so but i've appreciated your support i have appreciated watching you and with your team and their support actually it's amazing their support for you and of course vice versa your support back to them it's it's been great it's been those i probably won't be able to sing on february 14th anymore oh yeah but uh unless mike going to like that i was trying to hide during that but i've enjoyed being with you and watching all that you've done and you've been a great asset for pasco county and a great friend and and we hope to see much more of you in the future so you'll be more relaxed maybe i enjoy bringing grand babies by to see me so i will that's good okay anyone else so we have another plaque should we do it now and then take one big photo or should we do two separate okay could the commission on the status of women please step up to the podium hello so i am the current chair for the commission on the status of women and i have some of our other members here and we have a plaque to present to paula um from the board of county commissioners and the pasco county commission on the status of women we honor paula o'neill our pasco county clerk of circuit court for 39 years of public service and many contributions to the welfare of women children and families in pasco county congratulations and best wishes on your retirement and we know we're still going to see you all the time thank you thank you very much all right well we will come down wait a minute you want to say from here yeah got [Laughter] so in 1987 when i came here i moved here from charleston as you know i was 30 years old and saddlebrook moved my family here and they showed us clearwater and tampa so then when i got here i'm like well where are all the parks where are the libraries because they didn't even show us pasco the the enticement to move here was showing us other counties and we lived in westlake chapel we drove i had to drive to land the lakes or zephyr hills to get groceries and what a change it is today all the work that all the commissioners have done all of you and the ones before you and even all of the employees that i've worked with throughout all the years have worked so hard and really
1:42:38you know people say good enough for government work that really that really doesn't hold water in pasco because everybody works so hard you can go to any of these government offices late certainly my offices and the county offices and people are working they work hard they love what they do and they love the people who live here so it's been so great and i remember attending those florida retirement service frs florida retirement seminars and thinking i'm not going to be here that long but they made us go so i'd go like all right i'll be here a couple years i guess then there's you know something better but there was never anything better than pasco i appreciate all the opportunities i've been given here i can't even i could have never imagined the responsibility that i was given by all of you and the voters of pasco and the trust and um i just want you to know it's just my name on the door you see the people who do the work right there and i have an amazing team you're not going to see a difference when a new clerk steps in and the governor hasn't made a decision at this point or an appointment however i anticipate that to be nikki alvarez soles who read the resolution and just so you know if it's not done by june 30th the chief judge will appoint nikki and the interim and you won't see a difference the executive team is amazing their dream team um it's just been an honor to serve and thank you thank you to all of my team thank you to all of you for your support and please continue to support them and i know you will and thank you for uh i love you guys [Applause] [Music] and paula you can either get front and center down there you can stay front and center up here whatever and the um commission on status of women well you want to hold your award [Music] yeah y'all come on back in here [Music] there's a tall person just get on the right get on ralph's shoulders no i'm sure [Music] we do have a doctor in the house [Music] big resolutions there we go i'm holding my hand tilt that down here brilliant thank you so much oh you guys look great that's true probably be better if it takes a lens cap off all right thank you very much [Applause] [Music]
1:47:29thank you [Music] all right this at this time we'll do r3 what now the presentation that's that's what i got part three yes oh yeah i'm looking at our truth come on forward time welcome thank you um my name is tom madonna the executive director of am skills manufacturing and training i want to thank you for the opportunity to come today um i want to give you a very brief presentation about why we're here today and then we'd like to recognize some people who's helped us to to launch something that's very exciting to us today um if you look at uh the recent trying to get this to work middle button there you go there it goes if you look at the most recent survey that was done by pasco county economic development uh and just for last year one of the things they did was a survey of all the companies in pasco county the majority of the companies that responded was manufacturers here in pasco county and one of the top concerns that they have is recruiting 78 percent of manufacturers have difficulty recruiting into the manufacturing industry secondly the other part is skilled and semi-skilled people is what they have the most difficulty recruiting am skills uh was created in 2015 uh in large part due to pasco county and uh and the grant received from the pasco economic uh excuse me from the florida department of economic opportunity having trouble getting this to work essentially am skills is a hands-on training program we teach foundational skills as well as we allow students to explore multiple career tracks many of your young adults have no idea what they want to do therefore they get to explore different career tracks for this industry once they complete the program they're then placed in local jobs app manufacturers many manufacturers are involved with what we're doing these are just some of the companies that we're working with here in pasco county and where we have placed people in jobs at the last time i was here i ran into somebody a new person who came and talked to you all the point distillery was here he captured me and i was very interested he called me two days ago they came and visited they're ready to take on some of our students so every time we're getting much more manufacturers now getting involved and taking on more students we first started with a youth
1:51:13pre-apprenticeship program which is an after-school program but in pinellas county we've been fortunate enough to be able to move this into the school day which will allow us to essentially in pinellas county we now have 80 high school students participating in the program we're working on trying to get that established here in pasco but we also have seven high school interns currently working for pasco county utilities so this is also a pipeline to your public works utilities department because they're learning the same skills that they need for those departments as well and we're very thankful for pasco county utilities for that we also have our adult uh let me start with this a quick success story of uh we talk about economic development what is truly the economic development this was robert llewellyn who came into the program in 2015. his plan was always to go to college for a mechanical engineering degree we actually in a way talked him out of that we just he was going to go away to a college instead we got him a job locally he went to pasco hernando state college got his two-year degree he just transferred to university of central florida however the company manufacturing pharma works is paying for his tuition to go to central florida he will then return to pasco county and live as a mechanical engineer for that company so this is a true way that our youth have opportunities to get a uh program uh training without a college uh without actually college debt we also have this thing is slow sorry about that our adult program which is uh a lot of the people behind me are participating in the adult program uh this is a 13 work program our next one is starting july 8th what's going on and i'll go ahead and get to that um our next one is starting july 8th so basically it's a 400 hour course and again they get to explore the different career tracks this is nikki who we've talked about before nikki had lived in a homeless shelter in metropolitan for a year with three children prior to coming to amskills she came to am skills in the three months we then placed her at a job here in pasco county where she's now able making more than 40 000 a year full benefits and moved into an apartment within two months after completing our program so this is a significant our upcoming program that's coming up in july 8th we have four registered from metropolitan ministries so this is a significant way that we can actually help in those areas as well but also you have not only do you have the pre-apprenticeship they get to explore so the program doesn't start there they only know basic skills from there we now have a machining advanced machining program before
1:54:08amp skills the only one they could go to was in clearwater we now have that at our locations we currently have 13 in our advanced manufacturing machining program and that continues to grow so what happens is in all of these that are in our current program many of them there's eight current adults in the program most of them are interested in machining so that will become a feeder into that program as well we also have a mechatronics program uh with the that's another category as well the pictures that we have up here uh this was uh we were last year we were on fox news and uh bay news nine and others and while this the television was going on we had a father bring uh bring william to us he was graduated high school sitting at home not knowing what to do brought him in he came through the three-month program finished it i want to do mechatronics when he finished he's now working at fax engineering that's his own office he's 19 years old in his own office working in mechatronics and absolutely loves his job so again we're becoming a feeder system significantly the uh we started in 2015 obviously there's always you know how are we doing we've been growing uh steadily over the years uh the first year we started was a youth program only the second year is when in 2017 is when we actually started the adult program so it's only been within the last year and a half that we've been able to actually start placing people as a result of a starting the adult program as you can see from the green that's past pinellas county school system so obviously if we can get the program into the school day here in pasco county that will create another significant pipeline this next just shows us our um we've had over 44 placements um uh with our adult program as well as our youth programs sorry i'm having a very trouble with your clicker here tom i think it's it this is just showing uh uh the the placements one thing i'd like to point out not everyone is placed people go through the program and they realize manufacturing is not for them but we do work with career source to get those who are not interested in uh placement in manufacturing we work with them in order to get them placed uh the majority of those that we've placed are here in pasco county as well this we have also uh formed a non-profit and over the last year we have been steadily working on uh fundraising from a non-profit perspective uh obviously we've had i believe we've had quite a bit of success with that in in the last 10 months we've applied for over three million dollars worth of grants and we've actually been awarded over four hundred and thirty thousand 000 so we're starting to see and i want to make a point here the funding that the county provides us allows us to leverage to get more funding all right now that we have the nonprofit
1:57:21many grants and donors don't want to give to overhead and those type of things so the funding you're providing us is now allowing us to leverage that to get more funding through our nonprofit but the main reason we're here today is recruitment i mentioned earlier about recruitment and as many of you saw as we were coming in we have uh established our first mo am skills mobile innovation station we have to be creative in the way we go out and recruit people this is meant for us to take to homeless shelters women's shelters recreation centers libraries and so on in order to get people interested in the program and schools and schools as well correct um so today we're here and i'll finish up now we want to recognize because we've had several people who've helped us to pull this together uh in order to get this as you see the the mobile workshop itself it's a van a trailer and we put the led boards on it because we wanted this to stand out and many people have helped us to establish this the the trailer itself we received a grant through the city of saint petersburg the led boards on it through a grant through the florida department of education i'd also now like to ask the community foundation of tampa bay to come up i have uh denve boyle and jesse caraggio here um because they actually helped us with a donation towards scholarships towards the pre-apprenticeship program and with that i'd like to present them with a plaque and thank you for your contribution because what you're doing is helping a lot of these gentlemen to actually get through our program so thank you very much and we we appreciate your help um on this mission it's greatly appreciated thank you on behalf of our donors um you know we our mission is to build a better community and pasco is one of the communities that we serve and we're so proud to be able to support our fine non-profit camp skills thank you very much [Applause] next i'd like to ask um too quickly i'd like to ask a career source jerome was not available to be here so we have john malley from career source amanda hart wasn't also able to be here from blackjack media group but we do have george hulse from acme on the go who helped us to outfit the trailer and the wraps and those kind of things so john and while he's presenting those we we thank you too as as well for participating in this program thank you very much thank you [Applause] um the next thing is you know it's great to have a trailer
2:00:35but we didn't want it we kind of uh were told maybe we shouldn't have the students be pulling it around you know it's kind of we have needed something to pull it around so uh hyundai of uh wesley chapel uh scott feet couldn't be here with us today but mike mullins is here as well uh who helped us to secure the help with us with uh actually purchasing the van and help to contribute towards that so with mike and and uh tom did our students make those um frames yes i was gonna get to that [Applause] and lastly i'd like to introduce dr james and his wife heather gills who were let me let them come up uh i'd like to say to you all it's through your contribution which helped us to launch this entire thing i was able the van is not only to be used to help bring stu pull the van or excuse me pull the trailer but it's also used to take the students to actually visit manufacturers because unless it's one thing to hear about manufacturing in a workshop but unless you go and see it you don't know what the job is so we utilize the van to take them on tours so they'll go through in a 13-week program they'll go visit about 10 to 12 different manufacturers helping them to figure out which career path they want to go so it's through your generosity that help us to start this entire thing and we just want to thank you for your contribution and and greatly appreciate uh what you've done for our community we've been involved in training people to do jobs for 70 years and we went to a college prep and then we went to at the same time we learned how to weld and do those days we were winding motors and a lot of other things it's an honor to work with all of you because the people here from one side to the other have made life meaningful and down to earth thank you thank you so much [Applause] and dr gills and heather if you would um stay there we we are going to do your award in just a second your recognition i have one last one it's kind of a surprise one michelle uh michelle if you could come up is she not here there she is yes well we just learned recently that michelle is leaving uh and we basically she has done a tremendous amount of coordination with us and for us so we wanted to get you off oh that's very nice that concludes what we're doing we greatly appreciate your support we want to invite everybody to come outside to see the mobile workshop in action and what we're doing so thank you very much thank you tom thank you thank you thank you to all the contributors we really do
2:03:50value your contributions very much thank you now we move to rs3 rs3 that's jim and heather gills dr gill come back you can't get away today okay resolution number 19 186 whereas dr james p gills is a world renowned ophthalmologist who is the founder and director of st luke's cataract and laser institute and whereas the gills family have helped the citizens of pasco county and contributed to the county's growth since the 1970s starting with the land development and have continued to help in numerous ways ever since and whereas dr and mrs gills donated thirty four thousand five hundred dollars to am skills in may of 2018. these funds were used to purchase a 12-seat passenger van to help transport students to and from class and to purchase equipment for the training center and whereas the gills donated over one million dollars for funding to help build our beloved james p gills family ymca in trinity and whereas the gills family donated 76 acres of land for bridging freedom project bridging freedom's mission is to combat sex trafficking of minors and to bring restoration for those rescued and victim prevention to those who reach they reach with their message whereas they also donated land for cruise lake wilderness park on cruise lake in spring hill and the land for the campus of trinity college of florida located in trinity for whom they have been long-time supporters and whereas they have been a major contributor to metropolitan ministries with over one million dollars in contributions to local churches for construction and other projects and whereas dr gills has performed more cataract and lens implant surgeries than any other eye surgeon in the world and is what the one is one of the first to provide outpatient eye surgery that is fast and affordable helping numerous citizens of pasco county on a personal level but also helping thousands of patients without insurance coverage that need eye care whereas dr gills and his family developed the trinity area with the goal of keeping it affordable while never sacrificing their quality of construction now therefore be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida that said board hereby recognizes dr james p gills and mrs heather gills for their philanthropy and many contributions to pasco county and is very grateful for all their hard work done and resolved in regular session with the quorum president voting this 19th day of june 2019 signed by the board move to approve second got a motion second all those in favor say aye aye aye aye opposed like sign motion pass jim and heather you know you've been um very special to me for a long time and you may or may not know this but when i married trey and and moved to the county
2:06:44um i uh met some people actually king healy and i said i want to get involved in the county because and he said well i have a project for you we're trying to get a why here we have offices on 19 come and help me stuff envelopes so helping your why become a reality was my very first public project here in pasco county 28 years ago 27 years ago so it's been an honor to know you both i count you as dear friends and i know that we honored you a few years ago but you've done so much even since the last time we gave you the honor that i just felt we really needed to do it again and i'm i'm so grateful for your contributions to this county well everybody here has made it possible and we appreciate it because you enabled us to do work and we gave you all the majority of the profits came into our foundations and so we thank you so much and uh we know ron through a good friend of his yama and then we know everybody else your friends and uh always through friends thank you all and it's a nice way to work in pasco county thank you and it really is it's good we thank you can keep working thank you all right this is for you for both of you thank you thank you oh that's my homemade wrap job we're going to take a photo over here that's right yep [Music] take a look at the van that you helped isn't it amazing it's very eye-catching yeah when people when people see it on the road they're already calling thank them that ends the morning session and we'll come back to meet at 1 30 p.m for public hearings do [Music] good afternoon everyone i would like to call back to order the pasco board of county commissioner meeting of june 19 2019 i would like to remind everyone at this time to please silence all electronic devices this time we'll start with resolutions and rs1 okay is anyone here representing the poster contest water awareness poster contest please come forward i love you all of you come up great welcome resolution number 19 188 whereas water is a basic and essential need of every living creature and is also one of the easiest substances to take for granted and whereas clean safe and sustainable water resources are vital to pasco county's economy environment and people and whereas the steps taken to protect and preserve our
2:11:54water through educational partnerships and positive actions should be encouraged throughout pasco county and whereas the water awareness poster contest has been developed jointly by pasco county utilities and the and the florida government utility authority fgua in cooperation with pasco county elementary schools in order to educate young citizens about water-related issues and whereas this contest has won recognition from the american water works association awwa as a best-in-class program for its emphasis on community outreach and education and whereas students are given the opportunity through this program to explore science technology engineering arts and math steam based active learning activities and share their knowledge by creating creating an original water awareness poster and whereas 2236 posters were submitted this year representing 19 elementary schools across pasco county showcasing the theme how to be a water hero and whereas a rigorous judging process ensures each poster implies a combination of exceptional artistic merit creativity and clarity of message now therefore be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida that sudden board hereby thanks each participating student and teacher for their dedication to promoting water awareness in pasco county and congratulates adelina palermo annalise hutfield ariana bailey sydney williams sienna gennaro and molina garrig for their achievements in being selected first place among their respective grade levels done and resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 19th day of june 2019 signed by the board move to a proof second have a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye aye all opposed like that motion pass welcome great project great teaching of our water cycle to the kids i enjoyed taking and being part of it the judging this year so very good work that i saw and very nice of you all to do all the work you do to make this happen so who you got a spokesman okay i'm sarah rogers i'm the water conservation and deficiency coordinator for pasco county utilities thanks for having us and i want to thank the board of county commissioners for their continued support of the program which made our 10th anniversary possible so thank you so much for your support i also want to thank our partners at fgua pasco county schools and our generous sponsors and the dedicated teachers who participate some who have participated for every year of the program so that's really awesome the enthusiastic cooperation we see for this program helps spread our water conservation message to pasco county schoolchildren
2:14:40who then share it with the community we hope all of the students remain water heroes for life and now my colleague at fgua ashton spellings would like to say a few words too okay esther said my name is ashton spellings i'm the community services representative on behalf of the fgua i'd just like to take a few moments to thank our sponsors chick-fil-a of trinity big cat rescue clearwater marine aquarium cold stone creamery the florida aquarium and paddling adventures thanks to our sponsors donations we were able to give out over 25 thousand dollars worth of prizes each student who participated was rewarded with the kids meal from chick-fil-a and a free ice cream cone from coldstone creamery we also had the privilege for the very first time to give every single teacher who participated a free chick-fil-a catering platter which was very exciting to us i'd also like to take the chance to thank the fgua board of directors who continue to encourage and support our program and make it possible also and of course we'd like to thank pasco county the commissioners the board of education and the water conservation team we love our long-standing collaboration and without you guys it wouldn't be possible thank you to the parents who came today as well great if you would i will go down in front if the commissioners will join me we'll take pictures down there let's come back here [Music] heading south thank you great job [Applause] next we'll uh go to rs4 um is ali here ali oh there you are i don't know how to pronounce your last name a tafe a tuffy a taffy okay great wow so only 31 years i'm 31 years old this is my last resolution to ever read so it really is an honor to read it for you ollie resolution number 19185 whereas ali atafi graduated from west virginia university with a bachelor's degree in civil engineering in 1980 and in 1982 with a master's degree in transportation engineering and planning ali obtained his prof his florida professional engineer license to practice engineering in the state of florida and whereas in 1987 ali started working with the pasco county engineering services as an engineer one and shortly thereafter he transferred to the mpo and whereas some of his notable accomplishments include establishing a roadway concurrency management system per requirements of the state's growth management act the system was automated for ease of use by other mpo staff he
2:19:24also developed and operated the very first traffic demand forecasting model for pasco county and whereas for the last 31 plus years he has been the project manager for the development of the mpo's long-range transportation plan lrtp which is the most comprehensive mpo product and whereas ali developed the guidelines for reviewing traffic studies and substandard road analysis established access management standards and he played a key role in the transition from concurrency and proportionate share based planning to the mobility fee based planning for which he wrote guidelines for timing and phasing analysis and whereas due to his extensive experience with educational background and educational background he routinely assisted many county divisions and departments that needed help with various complex transportation related issues and whereas ali recently proposed the vision zero safety funding program to dedicate some of the mpo's share of federal funds for safety projects and programs with the ultimate goal of reducing transportation related fatalities and serious injuries and whereas ali's efforts have been acknowledged by his peers and customers alike and ali is known for the professionalism courtesy and guidance he provides his customers and whereas after 31 plus years of dedicated service ali retired on april 19 2019 from the pasco county metropolitan planning organization department now therefore be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of pasco county florida that said board hereby commends ali atuffee for 31 plus years of dedicated service to pasco county and its citizens and congratulates him on his retirement dunnon resolved in regular session with the quorum president voting this 19th day of june 2019 signed by the board for approval second got a motion in a second all those fingers say aye aye all right welcome thank you very much i appreciate it you don't look like your retirement thank you you're like you're just starting you can never retire but um just just wanted to thank um kamisha mariano for supporting this resolution and all the board members for approving it um the the staff that i've worked with for many years i have to thank them long list of people i can't mention every name here i do want to mention specific people i want to mention former county administrator john gallagher former chief assistant administrator mr bill rest in peace bill bippin parrik the former assistant county administrator uh doug uden former mpo director sam steffy former planning director all those people they i want to thank them given me
2:22:27opportunity to learn grow and contribute and also there are two staff members i want to mention one is mr david goldstein i'm not sure he's human he must be somebody needs to test him [Laughter] that's fun but when he when he got hired he changed everything gave me the legal support that we could write all the guidelines and he made sure they're legally defendable defensible he put some language in there that nobody could understand anyway so we could and also i want to appreciate and thank mr assangel when he was hired we he helped us to implement the um the traffic studies sub-standard road access management to this state he's still doing it he filled the gap and i really appreciate him he really impacted what i do so with that i just want to thank you guys again for all the good years and i cannot believe for this many years i loved what i did and i also got paid for it that's right thank you very much very good thank you thank you mr mariano ali i want to tell you you've been extremely professional knowledgeable every step of the way uh whenever the mpo may come up with an idea to take out a look at you're always willing to go do so dig into it all the details and come back with something else for us no matter what the option option was so i greatly appreciate your professionalism i can't believe you're retiring though you look too way too young for that so so that's chairman yeah no and i love working with harley you know and we work together quite a bit and one thing i'm very professional like you said but i would tell you what and i love this if you if you're wrong he'll tell you and that was the right thing to do though right in a kind way you would and but that was the right thing to do you know you stuck up for your convictions and what you thought was best for the county and you weren't shy but you did it in a way that didn't put people down how's that but we appreciate it and i have a feeling you're going to be probably sitting out in the audience representing some people in the in the near future so i don't think this is the last we're going to see of you but you do you you look relaxed right now yeah you look like you're retired though i think he's really happy quite relaxed before but but i appreciate you having me we worked together on some of the stuff you know and had public um public meetings and and you did a great job so you'll be a mess for sure yeah and i echo all those sentiments it's it's been a pleasure to
2:25:16know you and to work with you and i'm sure i'll see you again in the future and stay vocal great job great uh time here with the county and everything you've done is very appreciated by all of us and i'm sure all the citizens of pasco county thank you i appreciate that yes sir thank you congratulations all right uh [Music] a little further back [Music] that would be ideal [Music] all right getting dr o'neal if you could move that way please [Laughter] i didn't know you're a photographer [Music] okay now it's time for our public meetings we'll start with p1 tampa bay times may 24th may 31st june 7th and june 14th of 2019. thank you mr chairman victorious pizza the planning development department item p1 is a continuance of an ordinance establishing the mitchell ranch community development district pursuant to chapter 190 florida statutes providing for authority and power of the district providing for powers and duties of the district providing for the board of supervisors of the district providing for the district budget providing for functions of the district providing for miscellaneous provisions and providing for an effective date the item is requested to be continued to the july 9 2019 bcc meeting at 1 30 p.m in dade city we have to take a motion before that continue time certainly yeah second i'll get a motion in a second all those in favor say hold aye like that motion pass p2 did you approve june 1st 2019 in the tampa bay times good afternoon commissioners of mr chairman thank you uh before you today is a proposed ordinance by the board of county commissioners uh amending ordinance number nine through ten as amended codified in chapter of the pasco county code of ordinance by amending sections 102 through 186 and 102 through 188 to provide for the local collections administration and enforcement of the taurus development tax by pasco county tax collector's office as authorized by florida statute providing for inclusion in the pasco county code of ordinance serveability com conflicts and if and an effective date just wanted to give a a brief history on the tourism development tax collections uh in september 2000 2009 uh i'm sorry 1990 the board of county commissioners adopted the first two percent of the local option towards development tax august 15 2017 the board of county commissioners increased the tourist development tax by two percent
2:30:07and four percent is thereby um imposed on rental short-term rentals within 180 days or six months pasco county tax collections are currently remitted to the florida department of revenue uh the benefits for for pasco county and switching the the the pat to the basco county uh tax collector is regulation enforcement ongoing audits of transit properties property liens on non-compliance or delinquent properties for taxes faster remittance back to us from the tax collector there's a little bit of a lag time from from the state in getting our our uh our revenue back to us uh monthly and quarterly and annual collections from the tourist from the tax collector and then capturing additional revenue that is not previously captured uh over the course of a year and a couple items to note currently there's a a cost of administration and collection and that cost is three percent and once we leave the department of revenue we can no longer go back in collections uh so our recommendation is to accept public comment adopt the proposed ordinance amending chapter 102 article 5 i'm sorry article 4 section 102 to 106 186 and 188 of the pascal county court ordinance is delegating the authority for collecting the pasco county tourist development tax by the tax collector by roe call vote okay mr mr chairman yes um so as the chair of the tdc i'm i'm in support of this um i think mr prasad or senator pasano might want to come up and speak in a second um but i think and he can explain the benefits too and i think adam even in more detail but um you know keeping this local in my opinion is what we need to do moving forward there's going to be essentially a lot much more oversight throughout the process be able to manage these um manage this program better um there's been um we talked about on the is here and then and you saw in the news that there was a number of times that um we weren't even collecting the unfortunately the tax so we were losing out so the benefits and what how how much money i think we're going to make up in not just the long term but the short term too um outweighs um i said there's really no negative effect i should say so there's nothing to outweigh in addition i think senator do you mind coming up and talking real quick and adam to stay up there because we talked about collecting on some of these properties too something that really we're
2:32:49not able to do while utilizing the state i think that's important too so you know this is public hearing and the senator's welcome to speak for or against this item but i don't have anyone signed up but i'm glad to have staying neutral on this [Laughter] good good afternoon my name is mike fasano i'm the tax collector of pasco county um i think adam and commissioner moore have pretty much stated the benefits uh um you know one of the things that i i remembered last night about a couple of things that have happened over the last few months as you know as of january 1st hillsborough county increased their sales tax by two to eight and a half percent uh we soon found out through phone calls to our office they always come to our office god bless them to our office that people were paying a hillsborough county sales tax in parts of pasco county because the businesses and the department of revenue thought those businesses were in hillsborough county we addressed it very quickly although it wasn't our responsibility we felt as though that pasco county was being shortchanged in fact they were shortchanged to a total of 624 thousand dollars and because of the tax collector's office stepping up and working diligently with dr zingali at the department of revenue we were able to find or they've they found 624 000 dollars that was collected and given to hillsborough county as far as sales tax now this is not just because of the increase this is going back years and years and years we also found that there was a hotel in pasco county the hyatt hotel out there in wesley chapel that was paying their tourist development tax to hillsborough county as well and because of the office our office being aggressive i believe the pasco county received a check or uh it went to the department of revenue which came back to you of 58 000 these are the little things that we can do locally most importantly though i believe we have to educate people you have a lot of short-term rentals out there whether it be someone in a community that you may hear about that is renting their home less than six months or less and not realizing that they're supposed to collect a tourist development tax we believe there are a lot of short-term rentals out there that needs to be addressed one of the first things you want to do is educate we're going to have to spend money within our own tax collector office to do that by putting flyers out and people's annual tax notices by doing all kinds of other things maybe some advertisement we want to educate we also have the ability to enforce the department of revenue does one thing the money goes to them they give it back to you there's absolutely no enforcement after that
2:35:43we will be able to enforce we're able to put lanes garnish and and many other things of course we don't want to do that but we want to make certain that people who are renting short term or renting a hotel to overnighters that the tourist development tax of pasco county is collected and paid and i believe we can do that thank you mr chairman yes and senator fasano yes tax collector fazano i know you're the right guy to do this job and by the way working with commissioner moore to take care of that sales tax thing as well as finding the hotel great great work what i'd like to do is i want to make sure we protect all the revenue we can to keep it in the tourist development council certainly so if we connect if we pick the number three percent and it goes on and i know you get a budget and play what you want to go do and i don't want to interfere with that i want you to maximize what you think is going to be the best way to spend those dollars and invest it well bless you but if we if we get to a certain point where all of a sudden your dollars are at a certain point where now you don't need that much money i don't want to see you go back in the general fund i want to see it kick back in the tdc so i don't know how we could structure it for down the road when we don't spend that much money so that we can actually find a way back in the tdc i don't get any suggestions i know adam might talk about if you will never tell a tax collector you don't need that much money yeah i'm not with you on that no no no no no and i appreciate your comments commissioner as you know that uh for us to do what we're going to do we're going to have to spend money i don't know if you realize it now but right now the tax collector of pasco county and every tax collector in the state of florida loses money on motor vehicle services we lose approximately 3.2 million dollars on motor vehicle services in fact uh pretty much we're having to subsidize that with the with the with the property taxes that we collect otherwise i'd be giving you a lot a larger check back because what the cat what the state gives us to provide a driver's license a registration title work and so many other services that we provide doesn't even keep up with the cost the tax collector has to put out each day in each month each year to be able to provide a the collection for tourist development tax i've got to do several things i have to hire at least one additional individual who's an expert in this field we have to purchase annually software there's other other items we're going to do and most importantly along with that is to educate which we're going to have to pay for as far as educating individuals out there and getting peop getting our staff out to those whether it be rv parks uh other places where uh uh rentals are
2:38:19being uh rented out if you will we gotta make we have to make certain that though that we're collecting that tax i think it'll benefit you in the long run it's probably going to take us about three years of the investment that we're going to make on behalf of the county commission and the tourist development council is going to take us about three years before we even break even okay um all right thank you thank you for your comments thank you and i i tune in favor this we looked at doing this when i was chair of the tourism development council but we weren't really bringing in enough money when when i talked with you so now that we have doubled it um that's one of the benefits of having a robust program and thanks to bringing adam here i do have a question how we collect can we collect money on illegal short-term rentals well they shouldn't be i mr chairman if i may thank you um well they shouldn't be illegal that's the dilemma yeah one of the things that we're going to require of course is and and this is and commissioner your point is well taken because you know you and i have spoken about many businesses that are not aware that should be having a business tax receipt if there's a short-term rental that means that there's a business right that means they should have a business tax receipt and they're going to re and they shouldn't have a homestead because it's a business right and we're going to be able to find out these different things once we're able to and we'll work with the property appraisers office as well yeah it's going to be fascinating they're they're three have just popped up on my street and gulf harbors in the last few months yeah yeah but to answer the commissioner's question it's two separate sets of regulation if they are engaging in the business of short-term rental that's a tax issue that's correct if that makes them illegal under land use that may create a code enforcement problem but they are still engaging in the op in the the rental of their property which requires them to pay the tax yeah yeah mr chairman yesterday and that's one of the things we talked about the tdc meeting too is who knows how many we're not collecting on throughout paso county we know it's quite a few and i think once we go after them the numbers will be staggering in maya you know so we definitely foresee even making up that cost and then some by going by going this route yes sir okay that continues all right thank you senator thank you thank you it's a real question is anyone else anyone else here to speak to this item seeing no one goofer no go ahead second okay got a motion a second roll call
2:41:02vote district two commissioner district three commissioner starkey aye district four commissioner wells district five commissioner mariano aye district one chairman oakley aye motion pass thank you thank you yes sir p3 we do have proof the tampa bay times april 26 2019. good afternoon viviana martinez planning and development department item p3 pd 1910 50 is a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of cpel 1807 promenade business center pd i'm going to begin by reading the ordinance an ordinance amending the pasco county comprehensive plan providing for a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use maps map 2-15 and sheet 15 changing from tc town center and res 3 residential 3 dwelling units per acre to pd plant development and approximately 77.08 acres of real property located at the northeast and southeast corner of the intersection of curley road and overpass road and a text amendment creating a sub-area policy flew 7.1.51 promenade business center pd and a map amendment to the future land use map 2-9 adding sub area map 2-951 promenade business nrpd providing for repeal or severability and an effective date as mentioned the project seeks to change the future land use from tc town center to res and res 3 residential dwelling units per acre to pd planned development with associated sub area policies on approximately 77.08 acres it's located in east central pasco county [Applause] and is on the northeast and southeast corner of the intersection of curley road and overpass road and i'll go back to that slide this is the promenade business center's concept plan depicting some of the general range of uses on the site and with that planning and development department recommends that the board adopt the proposed amendment by roll call vote this is also a public meeting i have no one signed up is there anyone here to want to speak to this item see no one more approval second i got a motion in a second uh my roll call vote district two commissioner moore aye district three commissioner starkey aye district four commissioner wells aye district five commissioner mariano aye district one chairman oakley aye thank you thank you motion pass p4 i do have proof i turned two pages at once advertising the tampa bay times on may 5th and may 10th of 2019. good morning or good afternoon commissioners this is the first hearing of two on this item this is the temporary moratorium
2:44:32ordinance an ordinance by the pasco county board of county commissioners establishing a temporary 180-day moratorium on the submission and acceptance of applications not previously submitted through the pre-application process prior to the may 7 2019 pasco county commission agenda online posting of the introduction of this proposed ordinance for planned development comprehensive plan amendments rezonings preliminary site plans and preliminary development plans where the use of land for new mini warehouse and self-storage facilities is specifically identified in the application i'm sorry to interrupt but can you state your name for the record oh i am sorry thank you alexandra laporte with planning and development thank you on may 7 2019 this proposed ordinance was introduced to the board of county commissioners on that date you directed the planning and development department to conduct subsequent public clearings on this proposed ordinance we had the first one on may 23 with the local planning agency and subsequently we'll have the two hearings the first of which is today on may 23 2019 during the local public agency public hearing the lpa found the proposed ordinance to be inconsistent with the comprehensive plan with no specific policy cited the proposed ordinance comes to you today as a continued item from june 4th 2019. for background information mini warehouse and self-storage use is allowed as a special exception in c1 which is our neighborhood commercial district and has a permitted use in c2 general commercial district for clarification boat and rv storage as a commercial use is under the umbrella of mini warehouse and self storage use and provisions and is not as standalone use in the current land development code data collected from project pipeline from january 2017 to present date may 2019 shows that there were 12 mini warehouse applications approved in pasco county totaling 824 744 square feet of building and consuming 49.98 acres of land during this time most recently nine mini warehouse applications are under review totaling 572 122 square feet of building and consuming 37 0.65 acres this brings us to a total divided in the three market areas that are most affected by them combining the approved and those under review to one 1 million 17 472 square feet of self storage facilities in the south market area 300 and 2 65 square feet in the west market area and 76 729 square feet in the central market area
2:47:55we've produced a map here today to show you the locations of those that's not working anywhere in the map you can see the blue circles those are the locations of those 21 applications both approved and under review so the grand total is one point 1 million 396 866 square feet and 87.63 acres of land across the county the land developer the local planning agency had concern for the demand that the new multi-family units are placing on the need for self-storage we captured some of that information during the time frame of april 2018 to march 2019. the family units that were approved for the county total 597 units a majority of the sick the c1 and c2 parcels are are long are major corridors and the parcels that are not that are on the collector roads really amount to primarily being in the west market area along the streets of congress street grand boulevard little road madison street massachusetts avenue new york avenue rowan road ridge road shady hills road and trouble creek road those are highlighted in blue against the the rest of the corridors in the county that where the c1 and c2 are located similar ordinances have been adopted in florida and elsewhere in the country in the past several years for the same purposes to allow for researching of best practices for the development of mini warehouse and facilities it recognizes that there is a need but we also recognize that we would want to look at the most appropriate location and the standards for the building of those facilities since they are consuming so much prominent locations in our corridor so there are eight comprehensive plan policies that outline standards or the provision for such standards in the comprehensive plan to address the preservation of capacity for employment generating uses the redevelopment of commercial corridors and to facilitate site planning and design standards and those are highlighted and yellow those are the comprehensive plan locations of corridors that need to be addressed the proposed timeline there was also a concern about that this temporary moratorium will lend itself to more than 180 days so right here is the proposed timeline of what would happen subsequent to the approval of this moratorium in august there would be stakeholder meetings external and internal with the ordinance development team september we would schedule for a board workshop
2:51:29on those design standards that we would be proposing in november um there would be the i'm sorry real quick just yes i've got a question so and uh so you haven't even met with any of the stakeholders yet no because right now we're we're still in the process of doing the research and the meeting with the stakeholders would be best when we have standards and things that we can talk back and forth on so right now we're gonna so we're basically gonna cut them off of the knees and then ask them to come in and give us ideas i mean you think we want to have the conversation i wasn't at the may 7th meeting i reviewed the notes and i also reviewed those from the planning commission so it just doesn't make sense to me you think we would have the conversation with them the last 60 days that we've had to talk about their needs what i mean we really need to hear from them in my opinion this i think and the board's heard me say it we're not we shouldn't be regulating i'm i'm against this i think let the market decide and let me ask you another question when i was listening to the planning commission uh one of the board members asked you a question about if the boat storage and stuff was going to be separate and you said yes it would be separate it would not be included in this so they would still be able to do those kind of facilities because i just have some concerns being on the west side of the county you cannot find a place to put your boat and code's out there citing people left and right which is their job some commissioners call in more than others for stuff like that but it's they're they're citing them and they don't have anywhere to put it so i hate to see that um because they're they're at capacity um and it happens all over happens in my community the more communities we build the restrictions are even more but they don't have anywhere to put it i'm not picking on you i'm just asking no absolutely so for to to clarify my answer um there is not a language that specifically calls out um boat and rv storage in this ordinance because of the way that bowdoin rv storage is under the umbrella of mini warehousing and storage currently in the ldc what i answered yes to is the pre-application would someone coming in for a bus or a boat and rv storage application would still be able to have a pre-app and the answer was yes that's true that's sure yeah so that's one of the things i i brought up previously too and talked to dana about it um because that was never the intent ever was it was never the intent
2:53:59to disallow rv at boat storage and that was a concern we all know that i mean let's go back to why we're here too a lot of the big concern was on some of the the front edge along 54 56 is really where this started um with these being along those frontage roads now i know some people have concerns about other areas too i'm just speaking for myself now but never was it for the rv or boat storage lots you're not going to see those on those 54 or 56 frontage typically because they just can't afford to do it there's no return on the investment to put a typically in their temporary too there's a few nicer ones um yeah there's one but that one 152's where it's located is a perfect location for that i mean it's but you're talking about the one at saint anne yeah yeah it has storage and right and that was already there that's been there for many many many many years right and they added the rv storage later to it with the covered rv storage actually later so i just want to make sure that we're carving that out because again that was never the intent to disallow that and commissioner wells did make a good point on that um there are restrictions i own a small boat and i'm not allowed to keep it in front of my house and it's not going to fit my garage so i'm out of luck i also have an rv and um same thing i can't i'm not allowed to keep my rv in front of the house so that i'm a perfect example of somebody that does have to um use those facilities my boat is stored at a place where i have to pay now to keep it there um commissioner for clarification um so the intent in terms of the temporary moratorium and not accepting applications or the intent of the standards to not address um boat and rv stores that was that was never that was remember that discussion never happened that was not part of our discussions at the workshop or during the commission meetings that was never supposed to be part of that i'm just trying to get clarification is it just the moratorium and not the standards itself or both both okay um how many how many so um how many more i i think i was next how many how much more of your presentation do you have before because we kind of stopped your presentation so i want to make something the next one is just that there's no action today so um so we had a great discussion on this i
2:56:32thought i can't recall if you were there commissioner wells or not that our intent is that on 54 and 56 the road frontage is is very valuable for the kind of that that we're using that for job creation and and we and we shouldn't be putting um something that i i think as storage facility has two jobs um and and it's not that we don't want storage facilities and we definitely need them all those people moving into apartments they're gonna have to have a place to put them it's not the intent to not have storage facilities but it's the int it's the idea that they need to massage our rules a little bit so that when you come in and i think there was an example right here on 54 and gun although i think he's now changed it on his parcel in the front he put commercial retail and put storage right behind it so we we just want to have be sure that we are preserving very very valuable road frontage of 5456 corridor for job creation and and um so that's that's my recollection of the intent and i i think that's a good thing i think we will allow the storage facilities it's just let's let's make sure we're not um losing sight of what our goal is for that that that that corridor and why we put so many incentives there it's for job creation let me ask one more question is there places where we have rv storage and boat storage by themselves without the other many storage and storages yes yes yes i haven't seen those so i don't know where they're at it's easy in the back you can't see it sure i can um if you give me a moment i can pull up the addresses but yes and there's been um a few quite a few pre-applications most recently since the lpa hearing as well i i might suggest that too and this is not something we talked about so i'm not sure the answer with this but sometimes those get caught up in the um automobile um overlay ordinance that requires 75 foot a setback from a residential um and i think that needs to be fixed and so um denise is that does that so you can store you can't store cars 75 feet from a house but you can store boats 75 feet from um that that ordinance for the auto dealerships it doesn't it applies to rvs and boats i'm any anything sailor leasing but not the storage that's right yeah just not dead storage because i do it's for the sailor leasing of those things okay all right so sale leasing rental mr moore so an example of what i think is along 5456 which is a good example of
2:59:34somebody doing a good job and not using the front end would be for example bruce b downs and 56. if you know that area there's a wawa um that fronts 56th street um on bruce b downs there is a bank i think it's wells fargo it is wells fargo next to that is um abc liquor store and there's a small shopping plaza and so behind that behind the wawa the front's 56 behind the shopping plaza and the abc that front bruce be downs behind that's where the storage facility is perfect location not taking away from that from that frontage um i think that's when we we're having those conversations at our last workshop that's kind of what we were looking at doing a lot in that area um but there are to answer the other question commission regularly there are some storage facilities that do many storage facilities that do low allow some additional parking of vehicles i.e boats or right i think we don't see them rvs typically because there's just not big enough space i've seen them together i just hadn't seen them separate like boats and rvs and one yeah they're more commonly there together but there are some that well there's quite a few there's quite a few in in the in the county now that are separate so you just have a 41 there's examples um 54 in the zephyr hills um across from crystal lake is a good example of of one um there's a couple on 41 actually um they do on the west side i know there's there's multiple ones along um close to 19 and off some of the roads that are just specifically for boat storage right and or rvs um again that that's that's a sometimes a just a grass lot sometimes it has um rock and sometimes it is there is a slab there again i want to make sure we're separating that from the actual structure of a mini storage facility and drawing that out mr wales two separate issues that's something that we never just you know we never just had that discussion well i i just that's why i wanted to bring it up now and not at the next hearing so we're on the same page now when we first had the workshop the discussion was 54-56 you know commissioner starkey talked about incentives which they they get some a little bit different but and it was 54-56 then it's dwarfed into it's a south market area which has expanded a lot so that's where my concerns come in if we're talking about 5456 and only many storage then i'm still not in favor of but i would understand a little bit more if that's what you're saying if that's what but this has morphed into being part of my district you know north of there if we're just saying 54 56 i don't disagree um i know they do take up certain lots i know the traffic there's nil and we have more dollar generals going up than we do and if we're going
3:02:14to regulate things let's you know i i just think we're walking a slippery slope here with this board just being honest but not banning them right they're trying to save our frontage and i can go back to the apartment talk on that too but we won't do that today but very similar situation so we're talking about 54 56 i'm i ca i can't speak for anybody else on the board i'm that's my concern and i've stated that that was my that's my main concern and if i want to get clarity again we're talking about the moratorium which is the just the temporary application submission versus the standards because at the workshop we talked about how these standards would be calibrated across the county to meet the different needs from the redevelopment component in 19 to a more rural setting in the east to a more robust commercial employment corridors of 54 and 56. so the moratorium right now applies across the county in order to make that opportunity for the research and the development of those standards equal across the board so you're not putting pressure on any other segment of the county because there's a moratorium on just one corridor i do want to emphasize that if the moratorium is specific to just the one 5456 corridor we have to change the ordinance as written and it also has to include a map with a geographic boundary which we don't have um so just to that was why i brought it up again i just remember the conversation we all had and it was commissioner starkey and commissioner moore mainly discussing it and with the apartments um was 54-56 so chairman can i add one more thing mr moore so i'm going to give one more good example of of people just good in good development in my opinion too if you go down 56 onto wire grass into wire grass there is a mini storage facility but it's not again once again not on the front end so you still have those commercial opportunities along the frontage the mini storage is back there pretty far close to the hotel right again i mean you actually you actually probably could put one i mean to me it's farther back than just you know second tier probably like a third or fourth tier that's where they laid that again did a good job that's but that's the way they do development there too right that's that they don't want that along that corridor yeah i have a i have a concern about the fact that a moratorium and it just stops any mpud or any plan development comes in we're going to say if you've got warehousing in there you can't do it this time for six months
3:04:59you can't apply whether they're gonna put it back behind the main road or not we're stopping it in terms of the mpud unless they've specifically already and we had one recently um windfields i think they already had a loom in place and it was specific for this use that is exempt from this moratorium so if it's a general rezoning or a general mpd that has a host of other uses this one specific use would have a pause on it for six you know for six months 180 days otherwise if they already had a special exception if the mpud was specific to self-storage which we also have or you know what not then that would be accepted so anything that was in the process or in the pipeline coming forward would still be in there still go forward absolutely but nothing new would be able to come in for six months unless they've already had a special exception or the mpg specific to only that use that means they don't have another option but that used to build that use then they would be exempt as well okay mr chairman yes you know on on us 19 that service merchandise building sat there for a long time i think everybody was thrilled to see u-haul come in and build the facility to improve it uh recently k-mart went out of business up at 19 and bitcoins drive they filled in a a place there too better than an empty lot like the restaurant the old ihop that's sitting there vague and cousin causing issues right i i really like the idea of protecting the frontage i mean these corridors are critical for creating jobs and if you put storage units out there and they have built a lot of really nice ones i mean they've got really good looking buildings but storage is not going to create income and and make the most of the car so i do think we need to go work on those corridors right away let me ask you this do we really need to take six months to go through this whole process i mean let me just finish yeah part of the thing commissioner wells brought up really well is like you know i had a couple of stakeholders reach out to me saying look why are you doing this moratorium when i read it and i look at uh our own planning commission says 5-0 deny it not to go forward that sends a strong message out there so could you between now and the next meeting maybe reach out to the stakeholders find a way to shorten this time frame up and get the desired results we're trying to get without stretching this whole thing up because if it isn't a good mpud coming in that it was planned for the back i don't want to slow that down either but i'd like to see this a much shorter frame and i think you've heard pretty good input from the void part of that is just you know the process itself in terms of advertising coming back before the lpa coming back before
3:07:41[Music] you and making sure we do reach the stakeholders and talk through designs very specific design standards site planning standards and i also would like if i interject now the stakeholders that you're mentioning um is it citizens at large is it um someone that work huh professionals in self-storage industry engineers overall development okay i mean and that's that's that's to make sure we're defining stakeholders the same way miss starkey was next okay um when i when i met with her um and i've had this discuss with other staff with planning staff um i agree with this concept that the county a rule isn't shouldn't be the same or all the way through the county we have we we should have certain kinds of standards in certain kind of settings and others and other settings and i would use that 75-foot setback required for car dealers on 19 as an example that that's that's not should not be in a setting like that a requirement that was done in wesley chapel for for when the dealerships were coming in wesley chapel there was a lot of land and um you know so standards in an urban setting should be different than standards in a rural setting and i believe that is kind of where our planning department is trying to go to so i like what you showed me of what it might look like in an urban setting a more suburban setting and a more rural setting and and i like that concept what we did what we talked about was 54-56 saving that frontage for jobs can we move forward with just pausing on 54 and 56 until you do your due diligence and have your meetings which i think is real important that you meet with the stakeholders but allow it to go on in the other areas as you refine refine what you're going to bring back to us and i think it'll be improvement for everybody because what what happens on 54 should be very different than what happens in rural san antonio you know yeah so i think nick mr chairman um just just as a point of clarification if the uh if the scope of the moratorium is limited to a specific geography like 54 or 56 um you just need to understand that it is going to offset the types of uses that would would have gone along 5456 to the other areas to other corridors so it's sort of a prioritization of one area over another and that means that prime commercial
3:10:36real estate in other communities would be impacted because there would be a use that's such as the self storage use that is not a employment generating use it's not a revenue generating use locating on corridors such as us 19 in holiday i think there's a few of them around 19 and alternate 19. well so what but we need to understand that no i i do but i think what what we're saying is a moratorium on 54 56 while she does the standards for the whole county and so um so maybe we'll get some in on 19 i say bring them i'd love them but um but let's let her get get um do her research and get the standards that you want to suggest to us with stakeholder input and then we can we can vote on changing all the standards but the moratorium is where we hold that road front it's especially precious so let me give you the legal answers yes you can that's what i think um but you need to map that area and staff's going to need some guidance gateway crossings well okay if it's the whole south market area there's a map up for that but if it but this out this whole south market area includes roads other than 5456. that's why i suggested gateway crossings okay well giveaway crossings is the whole south market area no it's i believe that's the whole south marketer which includes the interstate includes the sun it's a map of the whole south market area because who memorizes all that i don't have okay so this again is the location of all our c1 and c2 parcels as you see they are primarily on those major corridors here it's locating the circle of what we have under review and approved this is the urban service area overlaid on where all the c2 parcels where it's a permitted use and the map of um just the south market area um is here well there's also a buffering this is just for conceptual you know depiction of what 54-56 entails we would have to identify exactly the boundaries of this 54-56 corridor in terms of the the buffer if you will the setback of what would be included in that to be clear if if you're going to use the whole south market area then staff can create that immediately that that map exists that's that one no so that's yes that map already exist that yes that map exists so this map already exists in the comp plan and so staff would not need any additional direction if that's your
3:13:45direction to use the whole south market area if your direction is to use 5456 staff's going to need direction and how far back off of state road 54 and state of 56 this moratorium is going to extend is it a thousand feet is it half a mile what they would need that dirt did we need that we need that direction my big concern is you know the 54 corridor between here and cruise be down so okay yeah i mean mr i mean just to answer that question that is my you know that's my you know concern i think you know up to like the bruce b downs intersection of 56 this time mr marion yeah i'm just thinking about 19 i mean i'd like to see us put some good standards in i mean everything you were talking about was good the timeline's what i have the most problem with uh frankly i think we should probably you should have your stakeholder meetings already as we're coming forward with this so instead of starting them in july if you started in august you're a month earlier do i think we really do need to spend the time on a board workshop i think within a 15-minute presentation 20-minute presentation we can probably vet that out instead of skipping that month of a step two so you could probably move this thing up to october as opposed to now and that that would be a lot more palatable and i apologize commissioner tell me your thought one more time what you're he's moving the timeline they've got if you go to the schedule they're not going to have the first meetings until august frankly frankly like commissioner wells says we should have had those meetings already i mean you've done a decent amount of research so i don't know what the hold up is to jump right into it and that would let you move all the other meetings up as far as us spending a workshop day i don't think we need to do that either i think we can with all that we know when we've seen we could probably modify this thing in probably a 15-20 minute agenda item and and pretty pretty we'll handle it or in the public uh forum uh just a public hearing i think you know on the timing if if we accelerated it and the board adopted the the new ordinance in october the moratorium would in the day you adopt the new ordinance or as soon as the earnings are effective so if you say 180 days and we get 920 the more term goes away on that day oh i understand that's what i'm trying to do is let's say if we're going to look at it let's move that thing up there's no need to drag this thing out if we're going to do it make a change what we're trying to protect let's just do it quicker and i think the hold up as you as as you
3:16:15describe it is part that in other jurisdictions that they've had a moratorium that we've spoken to there is a influx of applications as soon as you discuss new standards so in portland for instance what's been the downfall in their new standards is that once that came out nothing's been built with the new standard because everyone rushed to get in under the old standard so this is trying to protect that from happening and the gobbling up of all these available parcels not all but you know a substantial amount as you can see from the applications that are under review right now there are nine whereas in almost two years we only had 12. so there's a significant uptick um and this is just if we went out to the stakeholders and did the standards then you might have had it i agree with that 100 we learned our lesson with the billboard ordinance because when we did um when the commission i wasn't on the commission but when they did a 5-0 vote for a billboard moratorium they still david i think you were there they they still accepted applications and um we got like 70 billboards and they're still putting those billboards up that came in before the moratorium so yeah we just shot ourselves in the foot so i agree with that concept and um and i like what commissioner mariano is saying to shorten it by a month would be great and removing the workshop that's yeah yeah mr chairman a question for commissioner mariano to clarify you had mentioned um us-19 would us 19 be considered part of the moratorium i think at this point include everything otherwise you're going to see a complete influx on all of it so again if you if you speed it up and i think in speed i think you take two months or more off this calendar to make it all fly so i like the intent i like what you're trying to do i think you've got enough information you could probably have stakeholder meetings tomorrow to try to try to reach out and get it going and then move the thing forward so because the speed is not we're trying to do the moratorium is a scary thing i don't think it's good for the development community to hear that but i think if they can say okay we're going to move this quick we're going to stop the clock for right now move something up fast you can get the desired results which i mean there could be some good improvements for 19 as well so let's say that kmart building let's say all right we let them go do stores there but now we're going to say okay we want to see you do something in the front a little bit different so just like we're trying to do on 54 56 so i think there's opportunities here but i just want to see it condensed so similar to david's discussion on 5456 we would need a map i presume
3:18:57i think we need more direction whether this is going to be county-wide or specific geographic area if the duration is easy to deal with if you think six months is too long you could just make the mortar in five months or four months i mean that's an easy change to the ordinance but the geography is where staff needs direction on the moratorium part of this we i think they're hearing that you want design standards for the whole county but the question is for this particular ordinance what is the geographic geography going to be the whole county the south market area or just some limited part of 5456 that's where staff needs direction i personally would think you would use it for the whole county just like you've got planned but i'd like to see it shortened where that moratorium wouldn't just hold things up that's needed to happen in this county because we've got a lot of growth heading our way so yes so going back to the storage of the boats and rvs i want to make sure that we're we're pulling that out because it was never the intent so my recommendation on that is that that's your intent that staff add a sentence to the ordinance that specifically excludes those uses from the mortgage and that's what i had asked for before before it came in here today and i would agree with that but i don't but i'm okay with you looking at seeing if we want to tweak our requirements but we don't have to have a moratorium right that's fine if you want to look at something do it i just don't that was again going back that was never our intent that was never the direction was to but we don't want rvs and boats stored on 54 frontiers that's not going to happen i don't know we still don't want them any friends i don't see in a million years so anybody's going to open up a it is on 52. i see it on facebook i understand but uh 54.56 open up a store yeah storage for uh right rvs and boats because they want to make the return on investment in the land lease in excluding the bowdoin rv and this is probably why we haven't explicitly say that until now and for your direction is because once we do that we will have to amend the ldc to have it a standalone use which right now is not a standalone news under the commercial um use you know hospice that would actually to me that would actually make sense to have a standalone use because it i mean i would get going throwing this up making an assumption here the process to
3:21:25put up a facility like a mini storage facility versus somebody putting a gate up and and putting a coat in and putting a gate coat or a lock on it just allow you to park boats or rvs is there's a big difference they shouldn't be together they shouldn't be held to the same standards by any means okay do you have the direction you need like they need they need direction on geography like maybe eric showing geography i think i heard 120 days which gets us to the 7th of november more or less which means which is two days after the first board meet in november or one day after the first three whatever i think it's on the fourth so you know my concern is but it's up to you guys what other areas you want that you know we've studied 19 and been won't get more and more business on 19 but we still shouldn't give up our employment on nine even 19. i mean that should be protected also so i i wouldn't i think we need to do it for the whole county and just shorten it up and get it done as quickly as possible yeah so 120 days would be about 7th in november from the 9th of july right did we get from the public end no we have not really no you've not maybe given an opportunity yeah there is a public hearing that has to happen after you get done you're not mr chairman i'm comfortable with what you just said we hadn't got there but we're not going to leave here without getting there i you know i'm a little torn on 19 and um this is and this is the reason that there's i i'm pretty sure i've heard there's too much office or commercial retail on 19. right well it's spread out well there's vacancy too right now how the zoning districts have laid out there is too much of one single c2 used top to bottom so we can't fill all of that sustainably right um but that's a different yeah that's a different discussion so i'm not sure i would include 19 though i want you to improve the standards um so i'm you know i want i want the standards to be better than they are now um but maybe i'm okay to pause till november i don't think that's that long that would be good yeah all right keep in mind there's there's 1.3 million square feet of ready inventory about the either in the marketplace or entering the marketplace right there's two more under construction on 54 right near us as like hitting a pause isn't going to cause a dearth chairman and to be honest with you and i've made it clear i i'm against any moratorium
3:24:09but if if you would have already met with the stakeholders they might be okay with the moratorium and then i'd probably be okay with it but when you haven't even met with them that's my issue because again we should be if we're going to talk about moratorium what about all the fast food chains on 54 frontage that don't make any money don't have high-paying jobs let's talk about the the all the other companies through the recession we allowed to put on 54 frontage because we begged them to go there because we just needed people that's that's what i'm afraid of here is now that we're having good times we're going to limit and over regulate but then when the tough times come we're going to be begging people to put frontage on 54-56 that's my issue i just have a hard time telling somebody what they can and can't do but again if we met with the stakeholders i might have a different mindset um i i probably very well may would have so you know okay there's no vote there's no there's no vote we do have if you let us do it we'll i don't have anyone signed up for public hearing to speak to this item but if there's anyone here that would like to speak to this item come forward mr harvey mr chairman county commissioners hi clark hobby hobby and hobby pa 109 north 1st street tampa florida i wasn't going to speak today but i just two quick things um or three we would welcome the chance to work with your staff um haven't really had a chance to yet i personally think doing a moratorium when you're talking about 80 total acres of frontage being affected is probably overkill and if we just had a chance to meet with your staff based on the input that we've already gotten we could probably work this all out in three or four months without making any big change one way or the other and just as one example and glancing at the map i'm aware of at least one or maybe two sites that people had pre-apps on where i know the deal's dead because i was involved in representing seller so i think we may be kind of worried a lot about nothing here but we look forward to working with your staff but the one other thing i did hear ms laporte talk about um the winfield site and i represented the seller the chicken dance brothers entity in that deal and the the buyer of that site bought it specifically for mini storage and my read of the ordinance does not comport with what i think ms laporte told you which is there would not be any moratorium for that user i'm not sure that he's had a pre-application but he bought it specifically in reliance upon the opinions we got from staff and a trade-off specifically for that use so i just want to make sure even with the moratorium or any ordinance changes that it's not going to prohibit the purpose for which the guy bought the
3:27:01piece of property from chicken dance so we're not saying that they can't build it there we're just putting some standards of i believe that's we're just saying there has to be some other components to it as well if it's on 5456 frontage that so it's not typically we you and i may be on the same page on that but i'm not sure that that buyer has another use for his frontage i don't know i don't represent the guy but i think it's unfair for someone to buy c2 property or property that's specifically called out for that use and the county gave an opinion for that purpose and now we're saying that he may have to get a conditional use or something else to use it for the purpose that he's seeking i don't know where the board's going on it i just wanted to bring that to your attention and hopefully we can work this out with your staff as we go sounds good okay yeah thank you i understand thank you mr two mr chairman joel 2 2 and associates palm harbor florida a few brief comments first of all i i agree with clark and commissioner wells my concern is this whole moratorium thing sends it sends a bad message to the development community i stood here in 2005 when your predecessors decided they were going to impose a moratorium on home building permits for 180 days because there were too many houses being built too quickly in pasco county and we had dump trucks circling this building until midnight over that i think i think the moratorium even if well intended is a bit draconian i think we're hitting a mosquito with a sledgehammer and i support the idea of i have no problem i understand locational concerns particularly on that 5456 frontage i understand design buffering concerns but the problem is if that's really where you're headed and it's a 5456 issue that's locational and buffering then if you see fit to impose a moratorium i strongly urge you to narrowly confine it to where it is you think you're headed because if this is a countywide moratorium let me give you a couple examples i have a number of mpuds we've approved in the last three or four years connected city vo ph us 41 state road 56 that are mpuds that specifically authorize self storage as a permitted use so it's not a euclidean c2 zoning where you could theoretically anytime you want to i think you can change your c2 description and and require special exception for that but that mp all those mpd's are contract zonings that the county has basically signed a contract with those owners where self storage is called out so if my client on u.s 41 who was negotiating now for self storage fairly far up us 41 and his mpud already
3:30:02says he can do self storage you're telling me that we cannot come in tomorrow for a pre-app and do a site plan for that self-storage use if you apply this anywhere in the county even though you're kind of saying we don't intend to go there on 41. so it is going to have an impact and and i think you've got a serious a potentially serious legal issue on these mpuds where these uses are called out i don't think you can amend that mpud without that owner's consent now you can regulate location so i i think you need to look at this a little more carefully and i think it is a problem that the moratorium gets thrown on before there is a sit down and a discussion on these issues i heard that i heard the representation by staff i thought what she said was it would not apply to an mpd that expressly authorized it now does that mean that if it's in the loom as a use you can convert to and it's expressly listed as a land use exchange use does that mean we can do it and you know that's not clear to me so okay i think there's some problems thank you as well barbara will height 6327 grand boulevard newport florida three four six five two i couldn't just leave my you know myself behind when the guys were up here so in a shark tank i echo the rvm boat storage the whole time period when i hear staff say we're going to do something county-wide and we're going to figure out how to write regulations for rural in u.s 19 and suburban and for for 54.56 i tried to do that for many years that's really tough to do uli tried to get us to do that we still haven't done it yet and that was 2008. so i think one of the reasons why we've seen i think the scope is too broad and so i think if you target your staff on 5456 and limit it um i think i think the application of what this applies to is totally confusing every time we heard it planning commission one thing it's explained here we are confused and when clerk and joel and myself are confused as to what the application is it's confusing because we're pretty good at what we do so let's try to figure out what the application is that have staff work with us i think it's been suggested that they meet with us and we would appreciate that let's keep the scope to 5456 give them specific directions so they can actually achieve this in four months they can also work on the rest of the county but if you if you let the scope be so broad and the time period be brought in the ordinance says right now it's 180 days or as long as it takes to adopt an ordinance so it's actually more than 180 days so thank you thank you
3:32:49is there anyone else uh here to speak to this item so you know one mr moore thank you now listen again we go back to you know where i stand on in the area i'm looking at again so i'm not speaking for everybody else if you have concerns about other areas you have concerns about other areas too i mean it's not the end-all be-all if we don't do this in the next 30 days i mean i mean well let me me keep going for a second let me keep going i mean i don't personally i don't have a huge issue if somehow some people want to get together with staff but it has to it would need to be done in the next 15 to 30 days yeah to have that discussion i'm okay with that i mean again again going back to my concern 54-56 that's what i personally want to see happen um in there's really nothing else for me to say about that but again if if if the board or staff feels like it could be beneficial to have that discussion with some of the stakeover holders over the next you know two to three weeks i don't want to go past that so everybody's gonna have to work their schedules and figure that out um i i'm okay with that too so okay i'll wait to hear from the rest of the board mr well um you know the moratorium my understanding was the 54-56 corridor i i do want to see them fix the standards for the whole county um but we don't have to do a moratorium on the whole county uh i'm fine with 54 56 um but but when you bring us the ordinance i i don't want to go through this again for every part of the county i'd like i'd like you to have it ready for the whole county but let's just do the moratorium on the 54-56 quarter because that's the real pressing pressing issue and a moratorium is a drastic step but if we don't do the moratorium then everyone's going to apply and then it won't be need for one to fix it because the issue it'll be out it'll be done we saw that with the billboard ordinance and that that's just what happens people rush in to try and get under and then we we won't be we will have lost the opportunity to to for the job so that would be mine mr chairman follow up to mr no if yourself or maybe mr goldstein can revisit the question about the mpud since there seems to be some confusion yeah they'll do that well can you bring
3:35:29i mean right now i mean i'm sorry david i just wanted to comment to mr hobbies um the project he spoke about the mpud in winfield that had the loom their pre-app was on june 11th at 9 15. and they were allowed to have the pre-app so i think the language on the mpd's can be clarified i understand mr hobby's point staff did determine that that particular one was exempt but if he wants that language clarified that can be done i think that can happen between now and the next board meeting i think where stops good any direction though is if the if the direction is 54 56 is it a thousand feet off of 54 56 is it 500 is it that's worthy because they need to prepare a map for the next hearing and so they're going to need some very specific direction of how far off of 5456 you want this moratorium to extend mr chairman i've heard the front edge but i don't know what you mean by that yeah i just want to clarification so on an npud if they had it in there that was a permittable use is that still permitted so the intent was that if the mpd specifically identified that use as that's what they were that was the only use they could get was mini storage that would be exempt there are some mpd's out there where it just says they got all c2 uses right well that's not any different than just saying it's c2 so i think you have to look at the particular mpd and how it was drafted that's why it's hard to craft an exact exemption but we can craft it so that if if the mini storage was a specifically listed use called out as being that that's exempt or if it was through a loom that was specifically said they could get that particular use we can exempt that i don't think staff was intending to exempt just because they had c2 listed in their mpd that that exempts them because c2 is there are many mpds just so you get all c2 uses and i don't think staff was intending to exempt those mpuds uh let me let me let me interject if i couldn't chairman so let's let's see my opinion would be if it's some if there's an mpud that has all the users in there if they're going to design this whole project they're going to look up what's best for them anyway staff might be able to set them up in set conditions um so i'm comfortable leaving those in there as far as the u.s 19 corridor i know long term we're concerned about jobs up and down i don't think the moratorium is going to cause one job guy to come in here because the storage unit was just put in so i'm okay to pull that out let's look at the focus we talked about 54 56 and kind of pick that number though for
3:38:07david to say how far back do you want it to go okay so yeah sure so again i used an example earlier the one that's close to the corner 54 i'm sorry 56 and bruce b downs and i'm trying to get a distance and i can forgive me if i'm using the improper term here i kind of think of it like in the tiers you know kind of like the second tier yeah behind the frontage now how far back is that right so there's there's there's the question um what would we can look and see what's the appropriate distance off of 56 and come back with a recommendation based on what our analysis of examples like that right i guess my question is you see the corridor there on the map you know 54 starts at 19 and goes into zephyr hills and then you have 56. so is is that the entire extent or is it something different than that i've heard bruce b downs so when i think 5456 chord or the map that's on the screen is what i'm thinking but i also heard a couple times somebody's talking about cutting it at bruce b downs and not worrying past that so that's the other geographic so there you have it so if i could just where you would make a statement the the the comprehensive plan does call out special treatment for the 5456 corridor so i'm comfortable defending using that corridor as your limits i'm less comfortable when you start chopping up just pieces of the roadway and saying it's it's only from here to there my recommendation would be if you're if it's 5456 use all 5456 because that's how the comprehensive plan treats it as as as a corridor and and i would like to give ourselves a definite timeline as as miss wilheit said or other or uh however as long it takes no we need to get it done yeah so that's not actually what what the ordinance says right what the ordinance says is it'll it allows if you're in the in if you're in the adoption process that the moratorium extends to you finishing the adoption process because we've had cases where we've adopted moratoriums and had to extend it for three weeks to get to the final public hearing that's what that language and we can clarify it but that's what that language really says yeah as part of the analysis for that dimension that we're talking about um i'd like to also include the number of parcels that would be affected to see if in the end if we're limiting to just this corridor it's
3:41:04even worthwhile because it's that corridor specifically is eaten up primarily by mpd's and then c2 parcels i'd like to see the number of the c2 parcels to see if maybe we've just talked a whole lot about not much it's a different story when you look across the whole county now nearing making it so focused if i'm allowed to i'd like to go ahead and do that analysis as well and then come back with the recommendation it's not enough parcels to really put forth this moratorium concern so there are to us there's some of us there's enough parcels yeah yeah whatever's left i have a concern so okay continue whatever okay that's fine yeah that's mr wills but we i mean wouldn't some of these questions get answered if we had if you had a stakeholder meeting so i mean it's on hold now so we're not taking any more applications as of may 7th right so i mean could we continue this to two weeks and it'll give you time to meet with the stakeholders because are we going to be ready to make a final decision because you have to change things for the next meeting it's not going to be a final vote in two weeks is my point right now it's scheduled to be well three weeks but we're going to probably end up changing verbiage was probably going to be we're going to do 54 56 only once they meet with them in the next three weeks okay so you can still do that even if you needed to change things last minute waiting still okay again the stakeholder meetings are really about the final ordinance not about the moratorium okay all right okay here we go all right all right direction okay or we have direction thank you thank you a little hazy direction for tradition all right this time mr steinsteiner would you read the procedures for rezonings there are two rezoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners if staff for planning commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case
3:43:40that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code if anyone plans to speak um this afternoon on any of those items if you could stand and raise your right hand i will swear you in this will be her last swearing-in finally take advantage of it do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth so help you god thank you very much okay so p5 would you have a proof uh tampa bay times april 26 2019. thank you mr chairman item p5 is a zoning amendment uh evans parcel g2 mpud master planner development by evans properties incorporated it's a rezoning request from ac agricultural zoning district to an mpud master planner development to allow 117 residential dwelling units and 100 000 square feet of non-residential on approximately 39.08 acres this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions on the consent all right this is a public hearing is anyone here to speak to this item seeing no one leave it on consent p6 you have proof tampa bay times may 10 2019 along with an affidavit and certified mailings and site postings thank you mr chairman adam p6 is a zoning amendment uh in the name of project arthur mpud master plan unit development uh by angeline core bexley jp tr and bexley mhtr and j m family partnership back to james p revtrust and bexley mabel h revtrust and len angeline llc it's a rezoning request from ac agricultural r4 high density residential r1mh single family mobile home and i1 light industrial park districts between mpud master planning development to allow 11 495 residential units 5 million 150 000 square feet of commercial retail office 300 000 square feet of light industrial and 24 million square feet of corporate business park and approximately 6951.1 acres this comes to you with the recommendation of approval with conditions okay is there anyone here to speak against this item seeing no one leave it on consent b7 you have proof of publication tampa bay times april 26 2019.
3:46:50uh item p7 is a zoning amendment in the name of boger ranch mpud master planner development villages of pasadena hills village f by bogar ranch llc it's a rezoning request from ac agricultural zoning district to an mpd master plan unit development district to allow 215 single-family detached dwelling units on approximately 85.8 acres this comes to you with recommendation of approval with conditions i do have an update on the project there were some updates that were made the agenda memo was modified to include a discussion on landscape offers in relation to the rural enclave status for the project and this agenda memo has been circulated to the board as well as that this has been this is reflected in the revised resolution which is which was also circulated and the revisions in the resolution included adding a finding a new finding of fact number 12 and a new condition number 10 and the conditions of approval of the mpd related to the landscape buffers yeah and the rural enclave status okay is anyone here to speak against this item coming forward mr chairman i'd recommend that you pull it up after the last couple of times pull it off of consent okay pull it off we'll come back to it this one okay uh the final consent is p-8 and we do have proof of publication tampa bay times may 24th 2019. thank you mr chairman p8 is a conditional use request by temp tampa premium outlets llc aloha sale of alcoholic beverages two cup for beer and wine only on pr without premises consumption in conjunction with the operation of a courtyard kiosk for outdoor sales and service of alcoholic beverages in an mpd master plan unit development district in south central pasco county at the southeast corner of the intersection of stable 56 in grand cypress tribe this comes with a recommendation of approval with conditions okay is there anyone here to speak against this item e8 cno1 put it on consent and then we'll take up we'll take action on the consent agenda at this point approval of the remaining consent agenda i got a motion a second on the agenda um consent agenda all those in favor say aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass so then the question being now we got a question going back to p7 yeah does the board wish a presentation on p7 or do we just want to hear uh do they just want to hear from the opponent of the board i mean we can yeah we have the input first yeah okay the gentleman was going to speak on p7 please come forward
3:49:48um state your name and address for 32946 tyndall road wesley chapel is that walter walter and have you been sworn yes okay my concern is i was in a meeting with some of the county staff yesterday and they said to me that the tyndall road improvement as part of this project part of it would be done by booger development and part of it can be done by pasco county but they could not give me a time frame on when pasco county would be doing their part of the improvement so my question is how is development going to be built with part of the road being paved and part of the road being a one lane dirt road with two 300 houses coming in here we need someone to answer his question can you repeat the question mr two coming forward you've been sworn yes joel two two and associates for the applicant i've been sworn the roadway improvements are required particularly one that's generally speaking about they have to be done by the developer applicant so the developer will in fact be doing that required improvement that's required by the voph roadway plan obviously the capacitors tower road correct the county has to review and obviously approve the design plans and and exactly where it goes and avoiding the trees and everything we've talked about but my understanding of mr gassoway just confirmed that is the developer will be required to build that improvement it's one of the specified pipeline projects if you will that he has to build under the vo ph area plan so i i believe you will get that all built at one time by the developer so there may have just been some confusion on that okay i just wanted to be sure that we're not gonna well it sounds like they're going to take care of it for you okay let's practice county staff that told me differently okay all right thank you any mr chairman just just to close it up anyone else that anyone else to speak to this item okay any discussion mr mariano can we hear from staff to confirm that daryl uh right now but we can check on that and be sure we're not giving out the wrong information yeah we can definitely check on it but uh i didn't catch his entire question and my previous question was if he could repeat it well he was he was concerned about the fact that the first part of that road was going to be counting and the next part was going to be by boger the developer in actuality the developer is going to build the entire road mr gastow is here so
3:52:51good afternoon pat gasway 5904 hampton oaks parkway tampa representing the applicant i am i'm very familiar with with the location of the roadway improvements contained in the conditions as you might guess i'm also familiar with the location of mr placzewski's property as well the portion of the roadway improvements contained in the conditions require the applicant to construct tyndall road from curley road to the elam road extension um the portion of the property where mr polizziki's land is located is within that segment so the the i am certain uh that the the location of the required improvements within the conditions of approval that are along the frontage of mr placzewski's property are one and the same okay okay uh another question while you're answering that sure when the road comes in there and makes a turn i believe toward the north a little bit and cuts off a piece of one of the gentlemen i spoke to before about his lot but it cuts off a corner do you know how much land that is because the gentleman only has two acres i i completely understand the the specific acreage is very small i don't know it off the top of my head right now but the the documents that we have right now are currently planning documents it does require boundary surveys topo surveys the location of the trees and the design can be sensitive to to the location of property boundaries and specific trees if that need be the case okay that's good but we'll we'll determine that a little bit later down the road right okay mr chairman thank you yes sir just then answer commissioner mariano's question i can confirm that mr gaslaway is correct that the builder would the developer would be essentially responsible for the segment of rory okay thank you okay all right got a motion and a second to approve all those in favor say aye aye aye all opposed black sign p7 pass now we'll go to 29. did you have proof tampa bay times may 24th 2019. thank you commissioners good afternoon dennis hernandez planning and development this is item pd197406 in the name of sdg south acquisition llc this is for a change in zoning from an ar agricultural residential to an r4 high density residential district parcel is located on the north side of collier parkway slash county line road approximately 550 feet west of livingston road i'd like to see if you can call for public comment before i do
3:55:41a presentation i'm not sure that there will be anyone here for public comment this item comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the planning commission and from planning and development department all right is there anyone here in the artist gonna speak to this item see another one go ahead with your okay could you want to do a full presentation or i don't y'all need more of a presentation are the pleasure of the board no move for approval second i have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye all right all right all right call it those like sign motion pass p10 tampa bay times june 5th 2019. justin grant public infrastructure this is a resolution by the border county commissioners designated an area cyprus preserve phases 1b and 2a for street lighting and to consolidate those by requests of the developer i would say the same thing as denise did is there um any public comment and is a presentation desirable is anyone here in the audience going to speak to p10 seeing no one board's pleasure of approval second i got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye all right opposed sign motion pass p11 advertised in the tampa bay times june 5th 2019. okay developer at lakeside phases 3 1b and 2b is petitioned the county to establish the subdivision of the streetlight area for this area same comment is there any public comment and does the board require a presentation no is anyone here to speak to pete levin saying no one little approval yeah okay so all those in favor say aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass p 12. advertised in the tampa bay times on june 5th 2019. okay final one three of three uh this one is uh bexley phases 2a and 2b to combine with the existing bexley south street light district area does the board require a presentation and is there a public element is anyone here to uh speak to p12 for approval see another one i got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye aye aye all opposed laxation motion passed p13 advertised in the tampa bay times on may 8 2019. good afternoon in the caldwell uh public works this is for the 2019 pvas non-advil rim assessments um does the board need a presentation oh you have some discussion okay so for
3:58:58the west side of us19 there are eight pivot assessment projects a total of 34 streets a total of 7.41 miles we sent out a total of 1073 assessment notifications we got three written objections and we responded to those objections um for the total um 2019 non-adverb assessment that's both east side and west side there were 15 projects 54 streets 11.04 miles uh 2.13 million dollars is a total assessment for the entire you know 2019 and uh what will be on the tax bill for this year will be 1.1 million and um 5606.39 um there were a total of 2 182 total assessment um letters sent out and we had uh six objections so this is a total for east side and west side next month we'll be taking on the east side to the board mr chairman yes the reason i wanted him to make the presentation is when you look at the eight items take away take away number four because that's just a street street calming but colonial manner 10 payments at 1.75 the next one number is 2 is 10 payments at 3.5 the next one's at 10 at 3.5 the next one's at 15 at 4.25 the next is the temp at 1.75 and then 10 at 1.75 and then 10 at 3.25 some of these payments don't even have the correlation with like they're really high or really low they're still they're still mixed in and i'm thinking we should do a uniform number for what not the payment number is but at least what the interest rate would be well that was interest rates you were really yeah the interest rates were the 3.25 and the 1.75 and they're structured around it's not even consistent with whether it be 10 payments or 15 payments there's a reason why the interest rates vary so much the interest rate is based on the annual approved by the board of county commissions uh once per year um in terms of the 1.75 those were the storm damage rules was the board allowed us to um go forward with that 1.75 percent so those were the interest rates at the time the pvas was started yes sir the interest rate we're charging today nobody runs the whole length that's why you have different interest rates that's correct yeah so if you have to go further if you wanted to make them all the same right there may be some you know today's rates that that means we'd increase our interest rate no i don't want to you're not going to work you're not going to lower interest rates for them to get it yeah so the interest rate you're seeing there is different based on when it was assessed based on what the interest rates were at the time right that's why there's differences in the interest rates that's how it was and the storm damage was one lower to one point five right yeah okay all right pleasure of the board
4:02:04public hearing yeah is anyone here to speak to p13 seeing no one pleasure second got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye aye opposed like sign motion pass okay is there anything else to come before the board before we adjourn you your as you know well tomorrow i think it's michelle's last day so but i won't be here tomorrow so i have some flowers for himself that where is she i would like to give her down there so we just want to thank you for your service here to the county we're a wonderful executive assistant and then let's going to my birthplace good luck michelle you've been awesome yep oh yeah well they're taking a picture i think one thing we forgot to mention is that we do have a new state representative 38 yep mr randy maggard so we do have a new state representative so that seat is not unfilled anymore and a new mayor in port regime oh that's right we got a new member they still have to have another election i guess because he resigned from two more previous offices council seat and then their vice mayor suspended but he has not resigned okay all right i think they think there's a date already set for the municipal election for the council seat but i don't know what it is okay september so anyway reminder the cody river workshop is this evening four to seven in port richie that's constantly good cities pay for that election right yeah go ahead all right with that we'll adjourn thank you [Music] you