11.27.18 Pasco BOCC Meeting - Afternoon Session

[Music] the private attorney client meeting to discuss litigation strategy in the case of Diane Coburn a versus Pasco County Florida and Bonnie pinky at all case number five one two zero one six CA three four eight four WS Florida Circuit Court six Judicial Circuit has concluded and now at this time I'd like to call back to order the border County Commission meeting November 27th of 2018 around everyone to please silence all the electronic devices at this time we have resolutions okay resolution rs1 has the Pasco County leadership development program those members please come forward congratulations to all of you all your work you could stand now I'll read the resolution that I'm sure each of you will have a five-minute speech oh you can stand at the podium you'll scare the commissioners if you come closer [Laughter] but gather around behind the podium for the other yeah no the other side making us face us rehearsal and Ben's the leader there's resolution number 1935 whereas Pasco County is committed to the continuous development of its workforce in order to exceed customer expectations and achieve our vision as Florida's premier county and whereas Pasco County has just completed its seventh annual leadership development program which identifies potential leaders in the organization provides training mentoring and the opportunity to practice participants learned skills by completing a hands-on stretch project and whereas say we honor the Pasco County 2018 leadership development class who over the last year has shown the hard work commitment and dedication to improve their own leadership skills to improve our organization and to improve Pasco County as a whole now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby recognizes the Pasco County leadership development program class of 2018 done in a resolved and regular session with the quorum present and voting this 27th day of November 2018 signed by the board approval second all those in favor say aye [Laughter] Bendel's training and development first of all I want to thank all of you once again for taking the time to recognize these individuals and thank all of you in our county administration for the support of all our training and development programs as most of you are well aware each year we select a group of leaders in our organization to go through this training program it's an eight month program they've started back in February and just concluded this past month they've done a lot of work and as Paula read there in the resolution everything from training classes to mentoring to a stretch project all while doing their normal duties so they're really an amazing bunch of of individuals here I'm proud to have them standing alongside of me I just wanted to bring up a couple things I was looking through a group

some of the information on these individuals six of them have already received promotions within the last year while their while they're going through this program so these are these are overachievers and some of the projects that this group have been working on are things that you guys see we've got the the social media initiative with development services that started this last year this this is coming out of some of the individuals with this group we've got a new I'm sorry recording studio that's opening up here in just a few weeks in Hudson library that's from some of these individuals in this group and we've actually had a few of the individuals here that are standing for in front of you head up north this last month or two to help our neighbors up north with hurricane recovery all while all while completing this program so again a really proud to stand in front of you guys with these guys they're they're really amazing individuals and want to thank you all for giving us the opportunity to recognize them here today thank you [Applause] [Music] then did everybody have to take a test at the end because there's a couple guys we graded on a curve thank you all I mean you really truly make us look good we're lucky to have the 2,500 member team we have and for you to be picked to go through the same month class says a lot about you and I know you're all from different departments and I'm sure hopefully it's really brought you together and we appreciate it because and I would love to see you make a big deal about these couple of things I could tell you that the videos except for seeing down on them they're great you know up seeing them out there doing his little thought I notice it I'm sure that the board does too and I'm sure the residents do but I would love to be able to I had no idea that you this team was the ones who started that as well as the Hudson library I think it's a great thing we need to put that out there and you know what you don't want to toot your own horn but you need to that's that's exciting like I said I really had no idea I just knew something great what's going on always started you know seeing dawn on there now truly thank you I'm sure that others want to say something real quick then we'll come down and get a picture but truly thank you for everything you do every day for them for our residents [Music] [Applause] [Music]

[Applause] the second resolution is by title only resolution number 1933 a resolution by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida commending captain Roger Gilkey for 30 years of dedication to Pasco County and congratulating him on his retirement done and resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 27th day of November 2018 signed by the board rule second the motion of second I was in favor say aye aye motion passed chief Caston is going to take that Thank You chief yep third resolution is for gene hink would you come forward please resolution number 1934 whereas gene Hank has dedicated twenty years of inspiring service as the 4-h youth development agent to the uf/ifas Cooperative Extension of Pasco County and whereas gene has helped thousands of residents through exceptional youth development and leadership training and whereas just some of her accomplishments over these 20 years include helping educate and develop nine state 4-h council officers serving as the interim County Extension director I'm taking thousands of children to state 4-h camps for each University for each legislature in Tallahassee the White House and even to presidential inaugurations and where as Jean brought in thousands of dollars in grant funding for scholarships and new educational programs through her hard work soliciting companies and donors and whereas Jean has been very instrumental in the training and development of the county staff by participating in a number of countywide events such as the elementary school field trip conducted by public services branch genes shared her wealth of knowledge with students and county personnel to inform them about the 4-h mission goals program and how to use their head heart hands and help to educate daily active activities to execute daily activities and whereas jeana's been tireless in her pursuit of leadership development education and ensuring better lives for the youth and adult citizens of Pasco County now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby commence gene Hank for twenty years of dedicated service to the University of Florida IFAs Cooperative Extension of Pasco County congratulate her on her retirement and wishes her well with her future endeavors done in result in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 27th day of November 2018 signed by the board motion second all those in favor say aye opposed like that motion passed welcome does it seem like it's been 20 and for this county so yeah it's been 30 years that I've you know help youth in this county so I'm real happy about it I know you've seen them grow up in the program and actually graduate out and come back probably so oh yeah you know almost a third generation for some so I mean it looks real good when you can see the kids grow up and be you know successful adults so yeah you know it's have been a pleasure to serve and see you know the

success of what 4-h does for you yeah we thank you for all that you do and I've done thank you good thank you it looks like dr. Elmer wants to say something I got a little bit of something to say yeah I'm just hoping that Don doesn't start showing up in our videos before too long because he's all over the place No thank you very much just on behalf of the University of Florida just when to step up and say a few things number one to Jean we're gonna miss her I'm she still with us for roughly a couple of months here before the end of January when she retires she's put in 30 years with the state of Florida and she's gonna be difficult to replace she has produced nine state officers for Pasco County for the state 4-h Council which is a tremendous accomplishment and it speaks to her ability to produce leaders out of children and so those leaders have gone on to be very successful in so many different parts of their lives so this is really a resolution thank you all for recognizing her accomplishments but also the leadership she's been able to provide others that allow them to achieve some major accomplishments in their lives and to better not just Pasco not just the state but also the country in a lot of ways so we really do appreciate from the University of Florida the recognition for Jeanne and for her dedicated service we will make sure you thank you do you know you've been actually delight to work with watching you work with these youth day in and day out the projects they've done and just coming out and get involved in community I just I can't thank you enough for your service all the way through right you want to join me down the road we'll have a victory [Music]

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the next resolution is with hospice and palliative care if someone could come forward to receive that good afternoon resolution number 1938 whereas hospice and palliative care provide the highest quality of care to patients and families and bring comfort love and respect for all those they serve in communities across the nation and here in Pasco County Florida whereas hospice care and palliative care providers take the time to ask what's important to those they are caring for and listen to what their patients and families say and whereas hospice and palliative care professionals including physicians nurses social workers therapists counselors health aides and clergy provide comprehensive and compassionate care that make the wishes of each patient and family a priority and whereas through pain management and symptom control caregiver training and assistance and emotional and spiritual support patients are allowed to live fully up until the final moment surrounded and supported by the faces of loved ones friends and committed caregivers and whereas the provision of quality hospice and palliative care reaffirms our belief in the essential dignity of every person regardless of age health or social status and that every stage of human life deserves to be treated with the utmost respect and care and whereas every year more than 1.6 million Americans living with the life-limiting illness and their families receive care from the nation's hospice programs in communities throughout the United States with 2701 patients cared for by gulfside hospice and Pasco palliative care in Pasco County and whereas more than 400 68,000 trained volunteers contribute 22 million hours of service to hospice programs annually with 45,000 hours of service provided locally by both sides more than 300 volunteers and whereas hospice and palliative care provide providers encourage all people to encourage more about options of care and to share their wishes with family loved ones and their health care professionals now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby declares a month of November as national hospice and palliative care month in County and commends gulfside hospice and Pasco palliative care for its outstanding service and dedication to the citizens of Pasco County done in resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 27th day of November 2018 signed by the board thank you thank you thank you chairman Oakley and Thank You Paula and Thank You commissioners it's always a pleasure to be here every year to think our commissioners for supporting our organization gulfside hospice and Pasco palliative care serves 415 hospice patients today and about a hundred palliative care patients and it's because of the support of all of you every year that we're able to serve every patient in need regardless of inability to pay or ability to pay we're happy to be here with you today and we

have a little parting gift for you as well so thank you so much for your support ha the next resolution is on recognizing pancreatic cancer is there anyone here representing that organization please come forward while you're in purple today it's beautiful resolution number 1936 whereas pancreatic cancer one of the deadliest cancers is currently the third leading cause of cancer death in the United States and is projected to become the second by 2020 and whereas pancreatic cancer is the seventh most common cause of cancer-related death and men and women across the world and whereas in 2018 an estimated 55 thousand 440 people will be diagnosed with pancreatic pancreatic cancer in the United States and 44,000 330 will die from the disease and whereas approximately 3,300 deaths will occur in Florida in 2018 and whereas pancreatic cancer is the only major cancer with a 5-year relative survival rate in the single digits at just nine percent and whereas when symptoms of pancreatic cancer present themselves it is generally late stage and 71 percent of pancreatic cancer patients die within the first year of their diagnosis with while 93 percent die within the first five years and whereas the good health and well-being of the residents of Pasco County are enhanced as a direct result of increased awareness about pancreatic cancer and research into early detection causes and effective treatments now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby declares November 2018 as pancreatic cancer Month in Pasco County done in result in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 27th day of November 2018 signed by the board motion second all those in favor say aye thank you thank you just uh we do a lot of these um visits and it is for awareness and I just really gives some good awareness out there I'm a seven year survivor there's there's not many of me I say that the first four years were total you know if last three have been disease-free we don't use we don't even use the word remission because they say it just hides in you but I think back you know what can everyone do what you know if you haven't been touched by it know someone or a family member the number one thing you can do that their diet anyone's diagnosis and seek out a test trial without test trials they're never gonna change the statistics of this nasty cancer and we are so fortunate because you're here about the biggest places in the country to go let me tell you Tampa's still I sit our words number one there's not a lot you can do for this disease and with Moffitt and some of the doctors in this area that it's just amazing the the diagnosed what do you look for I turned on this that's it my wife looked at me and said hey you look strange went to the emergency ward thought that gave me a shot or something I believe and you know

16 days later after an extensive surgery you know I was home then I fought him for four more years with reoccurrences but what are symptoms man unfortunately half the people I know who have it they they were looking at their body for something else in this said hey we think we see something they had no symptoms but the other symptoms that other people have had besides jaundice is you have weight loss that there's really no explanation but I was pretty big I started doing better you talk to a lot of people tell you that so unexplained weight loss being fatigued a nagging little pain in your back that comes and goes because those are big ones and those are one to Rwanda the doctors say you know it's where you've never had a situation situation like that or them like that and go hey maybe medical abdicating go I mean I want to test it I want BC if I had that you know let's go you can catch it hopefully they get to do something but that's thank you well I want to thank you for coming and talking about your your own journey today I will tell you I have two friends with pancreatic cancer and one of them is probably going on 11 years now where he had a full Whipple it's doing great and the other ones approached in five years and and he's doing fine too so I'm very grateful that I think the the disease is not so many are you know passing away right away but I think they've made great strikes and congratulations to you thank you one more note when pancreatic cancer action network was started in 1997 there was maybe two or three full-time researchers in the United States for this disease now there was up to over 4,000 and I could say it's because of this group in other groups because they all work together and it's um and you know the 15th was world pancreatic cancer day so groups from around the world they all join up in New York and they meet and they they constantly share but for us we go to these meetings we've been to these meetings there was maybe a hundred of these researchers well Tom thought it's neat to go on these meetings now there's over a thousand everything they're doing is way over our heads but we know that working on all right well thank you very much and everyone let's go down and say congratulations and take our photo okay next resolution is for the National runaway Prevention Month anyone here representing those areas of our concern resolution number 1937 whereas between 1.6 and 2.8 million youth runaway during a one year period these young people come from every life circumstance what they often share in common is that their home environments are unsafe and unhealthy and whereas working together we can prevent the situations that compel youth to run away from home prevention means assisting them in discovering the delicate balance of life-saving skills awareness what it means to runaway and why running away will not solve the their problems resources how to build a safety net of trusted people and organizations to turn to help to turn to for help

communication how to speak and listen effectively and stress-management how to reduce or manage stressors and solve problems and whereas the future well-being of our nation is dependent on the value we place on our you young people we must provide opportunities for youth to acquire the knowledge skills and abilities necessary to develop into healthy and productive adults we must also enlist their families and other adults in the community to serve as mentors and role models for young people guiding them toward wise choices and available resources and supports young people with the least access to these essential opportunities and supports are those in runaway and homeless situations and whereas the first step in preventing youth from making the decision to run is gathering gathering an understanding of the facts about runaway youth in order to dispel the myths then we must empower families and communities to aid our nation's youth in protecting themselves and assuring them of the opportunities and support necessary for their success finally we must challenge adults to act as mentors and role models for youth guiding them toward available resources and safe healthy and productive choices and whereas we encourage and support the efforts of the community-based faith-based and public organizations in our community who are working diligently to increase public awareness about advocate on behalf of and provide positive and safe alternatives to runaway and homeless youth and their families now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby declares a month of November is national runaway Prevention Month in Pasco County and encourages people to support young people who have run away or who are high risk of doing so by developing a personal relationship with them teaching them skills that promote positive life choices providing a safety net of trusted friends adults and resources to them and being available to them as they transition to adulthood done and resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 27th day of November 2018 signed by the board move approval hi and you know I've always had a fun place for the wrap house I think every year I bring them a huge plate of home bake cookies from all my all my friends and one of the things I miss we're so lucky that we have a place like this in our County and one of the things I think is so cool about the wrap house is that we have all these different service organizations that come in and help prepare the meals so when you're saying your words please talk about that too because I think it'll it'll inspire others thank you on behalf of all those a Trap House the staff and all the staff yfa the Board of Directors want to thank all of you for all your support we truly believe that it takes community to raise a child and the children that we see some a lot of the times were really troubled and

struggling I don't get to say this very often but my sister was runaway spent some time in the shelter and it saved her life and I gotta say that from that perspective I know what it feels like to be a family member of a sister who is troubled without programs like the wrap house without the support of you folks in this county and the staff we couldn't do what we do and when I talk about the community one of the things that you were saying the Commissioner Starkey was you know we have a whole bunch of people who come into our community your cookies are well received but we have a lot of civic organizations that come in and do cook for kids that come and spend some time and it's it's time that folks mark me me and get to see these children but more importantly it's for these children who get to see adults sometimes any differently where they're taking the time to sit and listen and talk to them and without that we you know we can't be successful so we want to thank you all thank you thank you all right everyone you'll come down and let's say thank you [Music]

one more to me excuse me mark before you sit down could you just state your name and organization and for the record thank you okay my name is mark Wickham and worked for youth and family alternatives Thank You circle thank you thank you we have one more resolution today on human human sex trafficking and slavery and working against that yeah please come forward thank you resolution number 1939 whereas human subhuman sex trafficking is a form of modern-day slavery and occurs when an individual is recruited Harvard obtained or exported through force fraud or coercion for the purposes of sexual exploitation and whereas Florida consistently ranks third in the nation for the number of calls made to the National Human Trafficking hotline human sex trafficking is growing throughout Pasco County Florida and the United States thriving in cities across Geographic and socio demographic variability and nationally the criminal enterprise of human trafficking is second only to the illegal drug trade in terms of speed of its growth and being among the most lucrative and whereas human sex trafficking significantly threatens the safety and well-being of the child victims such as young as some as young as infants and often coming from the foster care system and vulnerable adults being purchased as well as families of buyers legitimate businesses in our communities and whereas their growing body there is a growing body of evidence that targeting sex buyers is pragmatic effective way to reduce demand with the commercial sex industry and whereas our local community is uniting to combat this modern-day slavery and bring together nonprofits government and private sector businesses and prevention prosecution education awareness efforts and to restore freedom and dignity to survivors now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby declares that Husker punting will continue its efforts to combat the commercial sexual exploitation of our children and vulnerable adults and mitigate the associated public safety economic and health risks to our community in collaboration with the u.s. Institute against human trafficking the Pasco County Commission on human trafficking the Pasco County Sheriff's Office and other anti human trafficking organizations done in a resolve in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 27th day of November 2018 signed by the board move to thank you and thank you all for getting this formally in writing I know the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners you all have been involved since day one for the trafficking free zone program which for the people in this room the US needs to do against human trafficking is a non-profit faith-based organization headquartered here in Tampa committed to combating the sex trafficking in the United States so in to do that we've got a safe home dedicated to boys underage male victims of sex trafficking it's located here in Pasco County that's one arm of what the u.s.

Institute does and the other arm would be the trafficking free zone program and so the whole premise behind it is to reduce the number of people who are willing to pay to have sex with traffic victims so reduce the demand there are a lot of different ways to do this is very complicated issue as you may imagine but Pasco County is really leading the charge in so many ways on this initiative from you the Board of County Commissioners to the Pasco Sheriff's Office to other nonprofit organizations here in this area and so we want to thank you for your continued support and all of that just for the audience for those of you who may not be super aware of human trafficking and how it manifests in the United States as stated in the proclamation Florida consistently ranks third in the nation for the number of calls to the National human traffic hotline in 2017 the International Labor Organization estimated that there were forty point three million victims globally of human trafficking and so when you come to the national level the United States as reported by Polaris Project leads all other nations globally in the demand the consumption of human trafficking Goods and victims so we have a problem in the United States and we are driving the demand for these victims Tampa Bay with in Florida consistently ranks within the top three or four regions for the number of calls to the hotline and when we begin the trafficking free zone program in January of this year here in Pasco as the pilot county we counted ads online just to figure out what's a baseline what does the landscape look like in Pasco County specifically for sex trafficking so over a two-month period we use two websites and there are hundreds and we filtered them down to the most narrow search criteria possible one we could filter down to Pasco County specifically and when we could get filtered down to Tampa Bay and so over sixty days we simply counted the ads that appeared on the sites and these sites are specifically for the buying and selling of sex over those two months we counted over 32,000 acts so there is a problem here in Florida there's a problem in Pasco County it's not just Pasco County it's nationally globally but I'm very proud of the work that we're doing here in Pasco and in Florida and I'm very proud to be working with all of you so thank you again and we look forward to potentially having the staff of cos Pasco County all trained in human trafficking awareness hopefully this year so thank you thank you so much and you know when I heard those statistics that just turned my stomach and a lot of work needs to be done in this area and I'm so glad you're you're here and I'm working on that anyone else well I served on human trafficking committee with experience and it's great what's going on because I'm telling you the awareness of human trafficking in Florida it's just amazing how things can turn around and it turned around in Pasco and the recognition they're telling you about is hard for you to understand we're being recognized here

and the Pasco County for the work they're doing all over the nation yeah so it's pretty amazing that that we have that kind of an outreach in Pasco County so it's very good [Music] I'm Stephanie counselor with the u.s. Institute against human trafficking thanks again okay at this time we will move proceed with the public hearing starting with P one madam clerk do we have proof of p1 Tampa Bay Times September 26 2018 okay everybody at once yeah Denise you're presenting covering for Denise I know actuary is inside contrary to do it yeah darling don't used to being on TV yeah I have to draft agenda and I'm p2 on the draft agenda but I elevated the p1 so here I am Elizabeth Blair Pasco County Attorney's Office on behalf of Denis Hernandez who's on a well-deserved vacation today this is the final public hearing on an amendment to the land development code to change the well time on our digital signs for large tourist attractors from sixty Seconds to 15 seconds I'll go ahead read the tile the ordinance an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County land development code providing for amendments to section 406 point 1 signs providing for applicability Riki alert severability inclusion into the land development code and an effective date as today is the public carry and I ask that you accept call the comment and after so adopt the proposed ordinance by a roll call vote authorized trim and execute the ordinance Amendment and record records to transmit to the department state by electronic mail within 10 days is there any questions regarding this matter any questions okay there's no action required so you know don't we'll call those witnesses public comment okay there's anyone here to speak to p1 seeing no one no it's nice this is no action required so we move on to you know yes this is a funny but I do want to comment oh come on I won't be voting no again I find these kind of signs I don't think they're garish and I think it's dangerous when you change the face so quickly and there's a lot of data out there so that these are dangerous takes the driver's eye off the road and so all right ptoo deserve one feet - don't we need to do the voice no no bus is the first series first we do have proof of p2 Tampa Bay Times October 28 2018 November 4th November 11 and November 18th of 2018 before before we move on the agenda the agenda memo does say that this is an action item not p1 on on the agenda cover sheet says no action required but the uploaded memo says that this is this is the final hearing which is it Victoria was PTO's with the Planning and Development that's my understanding that this is the first reading of this this was previously brought up to the board including commissioners to provide direction to go ahead and do this yeah I check let's for for the time

being let's figure that figure it out you can reconsider your action if this is to set your name please for the record thank you so this was notice it's a second public hearing your first public hearing was held on October 23rd okay so this is this where there is action required that's a roll call vote okay okay okay it's a roll call vote it was a real call but okay I'm gonna try this different order District two Commissioner more District three Commissioner Starkey no District four commissioner Wells District five Commissioner Mariano district one chairman Oakley hi okay for one motion pass for one okay I want to look forward to Pete to publication dates Department mr. chairman mr. County Attorney - before we get started so there's two items for this there's p2 and 22 mpg - we're gonna take care of them no we can't take them both up at once you have to act in the ordinance firstly I don't know person and take the second one I know you can bunk myself why can't we can't wait and act on Dornan's the ordinance has to be enacted before you can it before you can enact a and I understand that can we take up - well and then we'll go to them same you can put them in later that's okay yeah okay use the common sense over here but go ahead Venetian pumps MSB you there's this the an ordinance creating the plantation pounds municipal service benefit unit providing for boundaries providing for levy of non ad valorem special assessments municipal services to be funded providing for severability and an effective date the project area is located in the southeast quadrant of the Collier Parkway Parkway Boulevard intersection it's bounded to the north by the leg Padgett estates residential community and to the south by the plantation Palms community it is a major drainage flow away water flows from west to east the purpose of the MSB years to fund the project that will restore the plantation town did respond by the HOA although the county has some has an easement over it a the purpose of the MSB you like I said it's supposed to fund the restoration of the drainage ditch which the current condition looks like the photograph you see to the left the HOA knees the Candace assistance to fund the project they proposed a must be you and project as a result of the previously approved settlement agreement between the plantation palms is your a and the county the plans but did the design of the restoration works put together by a local consultant coaster design consultants and the bits are already out other times and will be closed you know December 14th the project will cost approximately three million dollars and we have not been successful in getting Swift mud and FEMA funding for the project gabion baskets are proposed and the pictures to the right to show you what's below interest-rate the HOA has 821 members who will be assessed the period for funding is over 30 years and the interest rate that the

Public Works Department is recommending is 3% which will make the individual assessment per member to be just under two hundred dollars per year the tax collector of mr. Fasano has said that his office is window waive the normal two percent that they charged an administrative costs of projects of this type that's okay okay has anyone here to speak to Pete to come forward and please give your name and address sure my name is Jim Hammond my address is 23 742 plantation palm Boulevard in Land O'Lakes thank you I'm president the plantation palm homeowners association and I'm here to represent in the talk on behalf of 821 homeowners and seven board members two of which are here with me today we've been working as an HOA board on this problem for many years to come up with a solution to the problem I can tell you that the board UNAM is the HOA board unanimously supports MSB you being proposed it has to ensure the vast majority of our homeowners as sort of proof of that October 22nd we conducted an MSP you workshop and invited the county to attend and we had a great turnout for our community 50 homeowners show up which for us is almost the size of our annual meetings a great show and where we were pleased that the outcome was was actually very good it was a very positive meeting and we were fortunate to have both assistant county attorney Nikki spiritus air and David sua to answer questions and clear up some misunderstandings and you could just tell by the tone of the people there you know it's sort of an ugly situation but we have to deal with it so we hopefully can one of the things we explained to our homeowners was at the MSB you even though the cost would be for by our community alone we have been reserving just the last couple of years some of our annual HOA dues and so if the board does approve the 3% interest rate that pretty much coincides with what we would fail to reduce our annual dues by so the net effect cash out of pocket by assuming this total responsibility just on behalf of our HOA would be pretty much cash neutral over a period of time to our to our homeowners so that was important so hopefully we have some successful qualified County bids it's a good-sized job in the county so hopefully we'll get to somebody from the county have a qualified bid and I think it's important and hopefully at January 8th meeting that the board approved a bid and the start of construction we don't have a lot of time to do construction before the start of the hurricane season and our normal summer rains which cause erosion in the first place so I thank you so much for your consideration thank you for your comments does anyone else to speak to p2 in public seeing no one to move a rule I'll settle with discussion hmm I'll second with discussion okay got a motion or a second okay discussion part I'll let the motion make it go first few ones no I just did a great job with staff and team great job you know working with the HOAs Jim out there and then Simon over

there you know it's something that need to be taken care of you had a potential of homes actually falling into a canal if you want to call it canal or ditch unfortunately I will say I don't think we should ever stop asking for assistance from Swift but the past chairman Maggert really went to bat for the residents at Witts with mud but unfortunately some of the others with what four members from other counties did not see right there was a benefit for them and their constituents but I think we would keep going to bat for them and see if we can also offset some witness in the future but obviously a good great job again to the HOA coming up with a plan to basically offset the cost for the residents so it's gonna be like you mentioned more of our cash neutral type of situation or constituents that type of situation so I'm glad and hopefully we'll see this move ward I know we have met boat towards the end of meeting yeah mission more I think you did a great job working this all the way through and a lot of emails going back and forth at some point so I know you're on top of it but Steph did such a good job and I grew the point I think we should go after continue to go up that's what my funding off the scheme of funding whatever the case may be it's a great community to get the Gulf Coast running now so it's it's just a fantastic place to be if we can help them out with what water management really is I think we should keep on trying yeah just important all right all right I have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye opposed - this is a roll call vote roll call but it is district 2 Commissioner Moore district 3 Commissioner Starkey I district 4 Commissioner wells district 5 Commissioner Mariano I district 1 chairman Oakland I passed 5-0 thank you can we now go to p22 you can bring peachy Ling to up forward if you wish okay okay Tampa Bay Times October 28th November 4th November 11th and November 18th of 2018 learn the intention to use the collection of collecting none at the lauren special assessment the plantation ponds Emma's be you in accordance of section one nine seven point three six three two for the statutes provided for the deed but said assessments providing for a legal description of the real property subject to the level of the assessment providing for severability and an objective date the resolution serves as the notice the property owners that feature property tax bills will contain the assessment to detail handling rating agreements between the Board of County Commissioners in the property appraiser and Gordon tax collector providing for reimbursement of necessary administrative costs for the collection of this the future that's collector mister again okay have a motion this is pop your still in

public hearing so oh ski it's going on here to speak to p22 seem to move for procedure okay I had a motion in a second for approval all those in favor say aye like time all right okay move on to p3 what's advertising the Tampa Bay Times August 3rd and August 22nd of 2018 married a long-range planning this is a mp3 Gulf Breeze manner this is a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment or CPA al 1805 this project encompasses 15 parcels with 14 property owners as correctly identified in the agenda memo and the proposed ordinance this is a proposal to amend the future land use designation of res 12 res 9 and RoR to a planned development with sub area policies the project is located south of each Boulevard west of us 19 east of first Isle Street north of Bear Creek the plan the proposed plan development includes commercial office employments our high-density residential retail restaurants bars administrative offices eco-tourism uses recreational resort uses and facilities the proposed plan development does not increase the intensity or density that is not already allowed in the res 12 res 9 or RoR flues the existing please this is a staff initiated comprehensive plan amendment in order to support the harbor's redevelopment until plan this amendment is located within the Hudson district of the harbor's and it will assess and assist in redevelopment of the block but it remains parcel that has been vacant for many years the amendment will help facilitate redevelopment of three parcels that have to flues on each parcel and also increase redevelopment opportunities and new development within the Gulf Breeze Manor area here's a map of the location Beach Boulevard is to the north first I'll Street is to the west us 19 is to the east and the Bear Creek canal is to the south the current land used on the property is commercial and services vacant lands and stormwater ponds and the site is approximately thirty two point two two acres with approximately eight point two three vacant acres the surrounding zoning and land uses to the north is high-density residential commercial services and Beach Boulevard to the south as commercial services open land hard word conifer midst and bear creek to the east is us nineteen arterial and commercial and services and to the west is first all street and residential high density as depicted on this aerial map here's a definition of PD plan development in the comprehensive plan and the general range of potential uses with MPD flues includes midst use developments residential developments with a range of unit types and densities of non-residential development such as office commercial and industrial etc so the proposed flue is PD planned development and the proposed saw Barry sub area policy flew seven point one point four five is included in the proposed ordinance as Exhibit C it allows a maximum of 250,000 square feet of commercial retail office employment

center ecotourism recreational resort use and facilities and sixty dwelling units the proposed comp plan amendment to PD is consistent with the PD flu and with the Comprehensive Plan no further amendments are necessary in conjunction with the proposed amendment and impact these will be collected and utilized by the county neighborhood meeting was held in early August on this project it went before the land local planning agency on August 23rd before the Board of County Commissioners transmittal meeting on September 17th and it was transmitted to the Department of the Economic Opportunity for their review that no significant comments were received sorry a transportation needs assessment it's not warranted Pasco County utilities has deemed that they will be able to provide adequate wastewater treatment services for this development there's sufficient capacity within the County Water System and Tampa Bay water to provide potable water services there were no reported concerns from police fire schools regarding the proposed amendment and there are no significant environmental concerns identified by Natural Resources our recommendation is to approve the proposed comprehensive plan amendment CP al 1805 Gulf Breeze Mandor amending the future land use flu map 2-15 Shido 7 sub area map 2 - 945 and providing for a text a minute amendment creating the associated sub area policy seven-point 1.45 Gulf Breeze manner and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote and authorized the chair to execute the originals of ordinance provided and direct the board Records Department to distribute a set forth in the distribution section of the agenda memo thank you and I'm happy to answer any questions you might have any questions mr. chairman just a comment than a question Mary Ellen you Terry the whole team and they did a phenomenal job with this piece I mean 15 pieces of property tough little section just because the land use is the way it was it was difficult for a good retail group to come in here and I think you might see this thing going up and down so we're taking it up that control to make it all happen for something is this for that boat dealer was gonna come in yes is that so nothing or the impute II is gonna be considered later on on today's agenda okay okay there's a public hearing do I have anyone to speak to this item p3c see I got a motion and a second all those in favor say out of it oh excuse me roll call vote district 2 Commissioner Moore hi district three commissioners I district 4 Commissioner wells district 5 Commissioner Mariano district 1 chairman Oakley I pass motion passed P for yet we do have publication Tampa Bay Times October 31st 2018 board members Christie Sims this is a final public hearing to correct some garbled language and an ordinance that y'all passed on October 9th one sentence in Section 79 - 7 subsection B was garbled and so in an abundance of caution we re

advertised and we're asking you to re-adopt the language it is an ordinance by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida amending chapter 79 demolition of summer blighted structures incorrect language concerning the appeal process providing for applicability providing for repeal or providing for severability providing for inclusion in the code and providing an effective date board members I would advise that you accept public comment and then adopt the ordinance by roll call vote authorized a chairman signature to the ordinance and direct court records to transmit the ordinance to the Department of State by like trying now within 10 days after adoption of the ordinance I have no one signed up for P 4 does anybody here to speak to P 4 if not I anything got motion a second roll call vote district two Commissioner more District three Commissioner Starkey I District four Commissioner Wells District five commissioner mariano district one chairman oakley i thank you past five feet five would you have proved Tampa Bay Times October 12th 2018 Thank You mr. chairman Nektarios PTO's with planning development for the board this afternoon as I mp5 regarding the 2017 2018 mobility fee update study this really is the first hearing of the proposed amended ordinance at this time I'll go ahead and read the ordinance title in ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending section 1302 point to mobility fees and appendix a mobility fee definitions of the Pasco County land development code in accordance with section 1302 point 2d review and update procedures to amend the mobility regulations definitions maps and P schedules resulting in some mobility fee increases and decreases to make additional amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repeal or providing for severability providing for inclusion in the code providing an effective date the purpose tonight is to accept public comment no action is required by the board as this is the first of two public hearings the second hearing will be held on December 11 2018 at 1:30 p.m. p.m. in Dade City by way of some quick history and background the mobility for the update study began at in October 2017 Board of County Commissioners workshop at which a number of initiatives were discussed and will present on those shortly in the ensuing months the mobility fee advisory committee was formed and various preparation work was undertaken to facilitate the study the mobility fee Advisory Committee held five meetings throughout 2018 with one in April two in May one in June and one in August of this year we'll cover the findings and recommendations in our present in just a moment on September 25th the board held a workshop to review the working recommendation of the mobility P Advisory Committee at the workshop the board did request that we look into the fee rates for many self storage facilities as well as ribbon apartments at the October 25 2018 local planning

agency meeting the LPA reviewed the work of the mobility P Advisory Committee and found it to be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and recommended approval and the subsequent analysis on increasing fees for self storage and urban apartments were discussed thereafter the OPA voted to recommend increasing the fees for self storage and voted to not increase the fees on urban apartments by way of removing the incentives the ordinance before you if adopted at the December 11 meeting would take effect on February 1st 2019 with me today to present the mobility fee update study is Bill Oliver our consultant through a econ and ready Monica with planning a development department and with that introduction I'll turn the floor over to mr. Oliver first presentation thanks thanks Terry and the presentation I have today is largely very much the same as the presentation we did in that September 25th workshop there's a few additional slides to deal with the urban apartments and the self storage from any warehouse facilities yeah we saw this in the workshop can we just go over the new slides I was mr. Goldstein over Stone yes I'm fine with that if you just want to cover the new slides yes deal with that how many how many slides are we talking about I have 19 slides I think two are new just skip to the new ones my only thought is it's a public hearing and maybe not everyone this is this is your first your first hearing on this ordinance the slides are part of the public record if it were challenged so if you if the board doesn't wish to go through all the slides they don't have to I would ask the Border's we do need some direction today on the urban apartment issue because if we're going to change those rates we need to do it before then it will all be hearing back to you with that okay okay and that case I will fast forward let's see here all right well this is the first new slide which deals with the mini warehouse issue it was pretty much a unanimous recommendation of the board that we remove any incentives for development to the mini warehouse land use the resulting change in the fee per thousand square feet is indicated in this table in the urban and suburban district those fees will increase by about $100 per thousand square feet from 400 to 500 in the rural district there was actually a pretty hefty incentive provided and so the fee increase in the rural district is much more substantial the footnote says I have gone back and double-checked all those numbers they are correct so let me just pause and see if you'll have any comments there on the Planning Commission unanimously approved yes okay I have a question question so the where I feel we want to discourage many warehouses are along 54:56 corridor there are other places in the county that I think are appropriate want to discourage they serve a purpose for the community so is there a way to just single this out or on certain types of throws no I mean that no the answer's

no but you could just increase the urban district that is something you could do but but that would be everywhere in the urban it that would be everywhere in it you've got to treat your fees uniformly throughout the county except for urban suburban rural so if you wanted to just raise the mini-storage peas in the urban Luffy district yes that could be done we can't do it just for particular Road well then that's the if that's the best we can do I would recommend that and if we can't let's commit I would move that we limit this to the urban district mr. chinnough if I may the as I said this morning to the Commissioner this is an issue of land use and zoning if that's if your intent is not to have these sort of uses on those corridors then you need to direct your planning staff to bring back code and comp plan amendments or an overlay district that does that trying to to use a fee structure is probably not the best way to accomplish it but don't we use fee structures to incentivize certain things and so I don't understand your thinking there we're using the fee structure to incentivize certain types of develop yep yes you can remove the incentive but I think that's what you're doing I think Jeff's point is that just removing that incentive is not going to stop many storage facilities from locating on the boat okay and that and that's fine I mean if if if this board's direction is not to incentivize mini storage in the urban fee district you can do that that's not but to get to the point that you brought up you really need to do that through a through a land use and zoning and I don't know why it has to come before us because I think this board has set it to do that but that has not come before us this is what before is now okay so it was trimming we need you might want to take public comment before you make any motions that's the only thing ever yeah that's cute we don't make any motions today it's just discussion well I heard a motion being made so Farmington I didn't get a second Commissioner starting statements but I think we just give direction you bring it back to us next time about any changes of this correct yeah gonna motion yeah correction but even for direction I prefer that you take public comment first well course yeah yes Thank You Mariana you know Commissioner I think you're right on the money about doing doing the discouraging buy but I think land use is the ultimate way to go and we just has to do it is that was bad land use decision making what the way it was set up from years and years ago I think it's probably real simple they had staff do an overlay right along that 54 56 Carver and just keep them one dating and that won't affect your revenue stream to come down I think we need to do both I think you know heck you might see what happened with the billboards people are gonna rush out and lock up sites for storage I do wouldn't need to hear we need to hear them you got another slide that's

we need to see not related to the many many warehouses this is it from me I do have others for a part of the urban apartment okay so then the other discussion y'all had in that workshop was how to whether or not to remove the incentives for multifamily apartments in the urban district element so that conversation was restricted to the urban district what I've provided here the you have different forms of development you have your standard apartments which is probably what you're seeing most of right now you have a mudroom a tnd and a Tod which reflect different mixtures of land uses and densities the fees for the muhtaram tnd and Tod are set as a percentage of the what we call the standard fee so if a change is made to the standard fee the muhtaram TN d and Tod fees would follow suit in their relative proportions the current fees are in the second column of that table 39 71 for the standard apartment if you were to remove the incentives that those fees would increase by 8% to 4,000 to 80 for the standard and then the subsequent fees they're shown below and then the dollar amount of the actual dollar amount of the fees themselves are shown in that next column all of them result in an 8 percent increase in the fee mr. Jim yeah so on this I'll bring that stuff my weight tries to public comment to them to ask the boards for any changes but I know there was a little bit of discussion back and forth on this one we didn't come to a full agreement on this item so what I would prefer I'm looking at discussing further but whatever in the proposing was to move for with getting rid of the incentives but any current MF zonings or entitlements would be grandfathered in so if somebody already has their entitlements for a map they'd be grandfathered in any new MF zonings or an increase in entitlements would loser and so that's just not something mine in agreement with I think the multifamily serves an important need in our community for people who can't afford the homes or are moving here and not ready to buy a home or people moving out of their bigger homes so I I think the market will dictate whether these get built or not so mr. Jim yes so and I appreciate the commissioners statements of that and that's why I did state that anybody that currently has her entitlements and if you were to ask the planning staff there are a lot of quite a few entitlements are currently out there already dan won't be able to go ahead and incur those incentives and one of the things I thought about was I understand that some people have already budgeted for their projects and increasing the fees at this time could have a negative impact with Authority budget for that I get it so they'd be grandfathered in and in five years from now if you want to change it and get rid of the if we feel that for even more saturated than we are now which I feel we're oversaturated on the 54:56 corridor especially you can get rid of incentives totally after that but some admit I mentioned the middle is um has the mobility fee community discussed

me this was never brought up in the stakeholders meetings it did the recommendation at y'all's request a recommendation didn't go to the your Planning Commission they expressed concerns with the economic recovery housing costs in general and also being compared with Hillsboro County's new mobility fees what was their boat on that was it animus booth David I believe it was five to one there was only one Planning Commission member that supported removing the incentives mr. chairman yes again going back to what I just stated just to reiterate if anybody currently passed those entitlements they'll be able to still have the incentives so anybody that hasn't anybody it's up there now are they playing for this it's not gonna affect them it's anybody that's new that's coming in it's asking for a rezoning and noontide on this that's what will not be able to have their in sense German there's stuff on the board already so yeah so I have areas on the west side that don't have any and then I may not be ready to come in yet I'm thinking of some of the property brand in 54 maybe some other you know we're gonna see one today it's not 54 but I'm also thinking how 56 is gonna extend it all the way to 301 mm-hmm and I would think that some of that community would like some nice new apartments and maybe they can get all but they won't get then they but they all don't get it inside of hey you know we're extent advising hotels to five thousand dollars of room that makes less sense than this does to me that we wouldn't charge something for a hotel but you know you have to I get it that it's kind of full between little road and maybe Bruce be downs I don't think there's even room for many more over there but some of the other areas there still need I'm thinking 56 the new 56 and I'm thinking no going for the West mr. chairman commissioner so in represent the hotels of it that give you asking America TC or our tourism director and say there's still need for additional hotels in Pasco County because I know in Pasco County because of the obviously the increase in tourism in the projects that are going on that's gonna bring no people the area to keep them passive County we can actually get a return on our investment from the T V T dollars which we're able to spend on projects that you like and other Commission there's like two yeah but I don't think we are gonna get $5,000 a room worth of church development money for a hundred dollar room you already get four dollars so I don't know I think tribute anyway explain this maturely yes commercial if if I could not give you a second but in this case again I've said it over and over the market decides I'm strong believer that's the market so I agree with Commissioner Starkey on this you know if anything it needs to go back to that board for them to study it and look at the positives and negatives you know

Commissioner mortis talked about the hotels and the TDC and the what they but we don't really know about them all like that that was not something that we should make a decision here today if it wants to go back to nobility feet they're bored and they want to look at it and study it obviously it's gonna take more time but at this time I mean we need to hire at the Planning Commission on this mr. chairman so I did give you proof I provided each one of you proof on this board and I gave you a pretty thick report and if anybody read you'll see that they figured that's why I provided the report to you and it's pretty thorough report it was but the folks that are in that business the experts the visionaries they keep saying otherwise those are that's what I'm hearing and those are the experts is the expert I'm just telling you what I'm here in our community and my family that's just my first little need out there okay all right public hearing it's gonna be up to you you'll see my life mr. chairman to address some of the commissioners turkey you mentioned on the west side of the county the harbor's area already has the redevelopment incentive and as part of this amendment the ordinance would also be a vacant lot incentive that would probably take care of a lot of the multifamily redevelopment that would take place this particular urban apartments incentive reduction would basically impact the areas along 54 East essentially outside of the harbors the urban service area is outside of right now how far east is 56 going 56 will go much farther than 6 out of this area so we're not gonna encourage townhomes or that map does not show 56 extending yes just stop right there right now the coloring has it covered our way to 3-1 so if we're saying that in the urban area then we're not going to put any part ments up and Hudson then we then the ones at the mall wouldn't get with the malls in the urban yeah but we're saying the harbor's plan there there it wouldn't affect that might different so this would really impact just EAS Easter partners or even worse upper hills and all that area wouldn't get any multifamily separate hills 56 is going all the way to 301 because that's me I've worked on the plane I think I go so I are you saying they're upset about what am I missing isn't that aren't we taking away this it's in the green air and everything in the yellow would not be all right we get you like apartments so let's move on I I it's not what I like we're not do I think there's a use in the community for people who can't afford a house in a gated community yes but when you become oversaturated in the certain market down the road you're gonna have major problems if I was a trainee they won't build them oh I'm not sure we're oversaturated on the east side in the particular area yes before bill stops his presentation he did do the the Planning Commission was very interested in what the apartment fees were in surrounding jurisdictions and so

we had the bill prepared this little chart that shows you what they are and I'm gonna let him explain it okay right so the fees for Pasco County the apartments of which are the the current fee the current standard fees in the urban suburban and rural districts of the thin that first column three 971 5845 in suburban 66 94 we're only talking about the 39 71 here the urban fee Pinellas County's fee they have a downtown district which really isn't physically close to Pasco County so the 1420 is the area in northern Pinellas with which Pasco would be competing Hillsborough County's got an interesting situation they have two districts in urban district in a rural district there are boundaries portions of your southern boundary but their rural district other portions about their urban districts so the 2883 and the 41 83 are both apartment rates of which of Pasco apartment developer would be competing with the thing that you need to be aware of here though and that I actually didn't fail to tell the Planning Commission is that Hillsborough County is in the middle of a transition process last year they were charging 50 percent of their fees in 2018 calendar year they were charging 70 percent of the fee starting January 1st of 2019 they'll be going up to 80% of the fee January 1st the following year to 90 percent of the feet so that fee those fees will be increasing and the 2883 ultimately goes up to three thousand to twenty two which will still be lower but the urban feet apartment fee will actually go to five thousand three hundred and seventy-eight dollars over two years and it will be higher than what Pasco charges so Pascoe's fees would be still in between Hillsborough suburban or olfi well so mr. chairman yes but see you just stated that you did not explain that to the Planning Commission yes and that was part of the reasoning for their vote and how they voted was because of the fee schedule you explained to them so that very much could have changed their vote really that's that's that's an oversight my friend yeah it's a huge oversight yeah the question does this need to go back to them now I'm thinking it does the Quentin yeah the question came up during the discussion I went to Hillsboro his website and picked off their 2018 fee I didn't realize they were in that trance well we just say there's just explained to this board that part of the decision-making was based on the fees with Hillsborough County so they were told something different than what you're telling us now yes I'm not sure it's fair to say that was the only reason they voted as of are they it was a factor but there was a long discussion at the Planning Commission about this fees I don't this was probably five minutes of that discussion there was a much larger discussion about apartments and affordable housing and transit and some other factors that they considered this was just one of many factors they considered so yes bill made a mistake when he quoted the Hillsborough fees but

I don't think that was the only reason they voted the way they did yes I mean I'm not saying the board can't send it back to the Planning Commission I just don't want to make it sound like that was the only reason they voted the way they do right but it was stated that was one of the reasons they put in what they did he certainly was a faster yes so you know so I think that position for series presenting higher for that so I think the factor they were considering was that Hillsboro fees are currently lower than Pascoe's mm-hmm and so I think they're consider concern was that if you raise Pascoe's it's going to you have a greater disparity between the Pasco fees and the Hillsborough fees and that's how our direct competition is with even it tells where as fees go up I think as bill just said they're still gonna be lower than fast food so I'm not sure that's why I mentioned I'm not sure it would have changed their vote because I think that the issue was they had was that they looked at Hillsboro speed saw they were lowered so why are we making a greater disparity that if you that there will still be a disparity if you even if Hillsboro speeds go up right mr. chairman yeah so again there's some great projects a great apartment projects along the 54 basics corridor all over the county again the fear is over saturation and just with Commissioner Starkey brought up earlier you referenced the many stores along 54 and 56 that should be used for job creating opportunities there and that's where the majority of those you're seeing is along 54:56 with the apartments do so it's likewise to the to the the Mini Storage situation we spoke to I think it's also important to note that the senior apartments will not be affected by these these increases correct that is correct right which I'm very much of the we need that in Pasco County right now because of our aging population again get a look at the certain areas we gotta look at the market where it's the oversaturation taking place that's what the issue lies and that's where this we're gonna be hit by that in five or ten years mr. chairman yes whoa what if we look to look like storage units and we took a look at the land use in that area we have a most concerned with it I mean I I agree with you points there I'm just I'm gonna leave a mark it was it could be up by 301 that may need some apartments and extends out in the West except layer may we get enough would you which it's it'll look it at the land-use changed actually find out where these apartment complex can go we considered that too sure but again going back to there's a lot of the time that's already out there along that corridor so that's no we're not gonna change that you know if they already have any time it's they already on the entitlements that's wrong to take them away and they're it's for anybody else new down the road my proposal coming in don't want to increase entitlements or change the zoning in that this time let's do it not taking

away from anybody that's already gone through the process what's the questioner Sparky so um we just had a project come up I think it's Clark's project where it's on I think it's the or C property on 54 between little and Seven Springs where we're going for a grant for low-income senior housing what would other projects like that be affected with this I know that one's senior housing but if we had low income just workforce housing some of these projects that that we get from the state yeah know that they'll fence the low income the state housing initiative program the ship program this this fee discussion would not affect so they're exempt from mobility fees they're not exempt they just have a significantly reduced fee okay that's good I see some of the people that deal with these want to speak this is a public hearing are you finished I am okay thank you all right public hearing miss for Hobby mr. chairman Clark hobby 109 Northwest Street Tampa Florida I just wanted to point out a couple things obviously Commissioner Moore I know you feel very passionately about this issue and I respect your opinion there but I would say a couple of things I have a couple of projects that are in mid process for MPD's but are not approved now that are in the urban service area one of which is a substantial modification to an MP UD that's existed for a long time that's very large and I want the ability on a small portion of it to have potential multifamily on there it's a 2000 unit development we may have 200-300 multifamily units in one area I don't think it's fair that we get caught up and and have to pay additional fee increases and in a larger sense are two other issues one I was on this mobility feed committee we didn't know this was an issue we considered the stuff that the board asked us to look at very carefully we both looked at the micro issues about you know the propriety of getting any given rates but we also consider the overall fee revenue and expenditures to some degree and this is a major deal to take on without having the giving the mobility feed committee a chance to even consider the issue and then lastly just on a macro issue I just want the board to understand you have numerous policies and the comp plan in the future land-use element they're encouraging additional density in the urban service area and you actually have a percentage of your future growth that's supposed to go in the urban service area and then you adopted a muhtaram code that's all but requiring multifamily if you will if the staff tells you you need to go mutter them so we are at cross-purposes if on one hand you're saying we want essentially we want to tax multifamily to the point where it can't be built but on the other hand you're telling us we have to build it and it's just we're not making a whole lot of sense if we go down this route and I would appreciate the board considering that and the plight that

we're in as we try to navigate the approval process because we're trying to follow the cop plan and we're trying to follow your code what you're telling us for more density and now you're saying that you just want suburban sprawl and the urban service area we go down that route thank you thank you anyone else to speak let's take your name and address Nancy Hayes would 3 4 1 1 Oh a nice place thank you for reminding me I went to several of these meetings found it very interesting I have some suggestions I'd like to see more normal citizens on the committees and it's a very complex subject there's a logging parts to it as far as this I hope you've taken into consideration that 30 years down the road what are the apartment buildings gonna look like thank you thank you no one else mr. tree state your name good afternoon mr. chairman there was a board that schraeder 31 306 Pasco Road it's my pleasure to be here this afternoon if I could at the board would indulge me I'd like to deviate a little bit from the discussion but it obviously pertains to the the topic at hand and Commissioner Starkey and Commissioner Mariano I think you were both on the board when we adopted and passed the award-winning villages of Pasadena Hills plan that plan was welcomed and accepted because of the surcharges that were imposed as part of that plan and the adoption and I don't think it was any kind of an oversight the the plan was approved at that time with the cooperation and the funding resources of the property owners group and unfortunately this time they have sort of fragmented imparted their ways and so there's not a real funding mechanism to update those surcharges I've had some conversations with the assistant county attorney David Goldstein and David tells me that there is funding available in the TIF fund in that geographic region and those resources could be used to help update the surcharges for the and then those feet this was the tip funding could be repaid with the development fees that would be assessed as those projects come before the Pasco County Planning Review staff so I would just simply request that you direct staff to consider using that methodology apparently there's a meeting I believe planned some time for the first part of December where they're going to be meeting with some of the representatives of the property owner group when the original plan was adopted there was some major capital projects specifically the realignment of State Route 52 the interchange improvements to state the us to the overpass Road and to I 75 that are now being funded either by the state or the county and hopefully it's it's it's it's our hope that those because those capital projects are funded from other resources that it will help to reduce the the mobility of search artists in that geographic region making the vo pH more competitive to the surrounding communities that are being developed so I would just simply ask that you direct staff to bring an agenda

item back to this board to be able to consider that I'm sure you're going to be hearing more from that from from some other members of the property not here specifically today but going forward so thank you for your consideration Thank You mr. chairman so I think everything that former Commissioner Schrader said is correct I think there is a funding source passing Hills has its own taxing from a district it's different from the countywide tax increment for transportation it is a valorem revenue I believe that on an interim basis it could be used update the mobility fee surcharge for passing the hills and I believe it could also be repaid from we have a special development review fee that is charged and passing he'll have to pay back to the tip but okay I've also been told that that money is not committed for the overpass interchange there there some of it is but there's committed funds in that tip that could be used for that purpose that's it the only reason staff can't just move forward is right now is there's a disagreement among the property owners about which consultant we're going to use to do the update so they're I think we have the money to do it and we have a way to get it paid back but we were originally proposing using Bill Oliver who's our mobility consultant to do it and some of the property owners didn't want us to use that consoler they wanted to use height and we don't have a contract with height so that's that's a purchasing issue that needs to be worked out at a staff level i but if you're asking me the question can what he's what he wants done can it be done yes we just have to figure out which consultant we're using okay so we need to bring this back to the agenda I am to have further discussion I would assume Lee do well if you're directing staff to retain a consultant let's do this that we have a process to retain consultants well that's what suppose to happen anyways the process correct it is but there's an issue about whether you are existing consultant or go out for an RFP to get one I mean that that's a that's a purchasing issue that staff normally and so versus having that debate now so we why don't we bring that back as an agenda item so we can have public input and further discussion I think we have a meeting scheduled here the next few days we internally yes let us do that first and see where that but the results of that internal discussion which I think it's what's on the property there's absolutely no debate about update their their surcharge needs to be updated right we have money that we think we can do to do it just a matter who who we gonna pay to do it which we can whatever our meeting first and then if we need to bring something back on for some of the board okay let's see if we can resolve that outside then I think I think we do that well height 25:23 permit place and perche florida three four six five five for myself I speak I would support what commissioner Shui are saying about Pasadena I was part of that

hurt and worked with the county at that time and what's being proposed it's only fair to those property owners they did pay a lot to get Pasadena where it is and I think what's being proposed is fair to them so but we're here top with no ability fee mobility fee went through a long process a very good transparent process and I kudos to staff Maria Barbara Barbara who kept us all up to date for people that couldn't attend everything I've sent her an email congratulating her on what a great job she's done there's a lot of great things in that mobility for you that you all have come up with with regard to redevelopment hearing it go backwards and potentially go to Planning Commission to go back to the the Weiser committee is just going backwards lots of unintended consequences when you start talking about mobility the multifamily it hasn't been vetted I'd hate for you to do something that we had unintended consequences that you could even think of because then because that concept hasn't gone through the committee like a lot of the other things went through and were vetted so I'd ask you to support what your Planning Commission recommended and move this forward and let's see the great things that happen as a result of of the things you've already agreed to can you can you change the screen back to the other just go back so do you need a motion I'll need a motion second yep is it back do we take action today no no actually you're not in action in terms of approving all the changes to the regulation however we need to you need some direct we need some direction on mini-storage and some direction on apartments because if you want to change those fees we have to do new fee schedules and that can't be done at the meeting I mean that's something that takes some time to prepare so if you want if you want to increase the Mini Storage you want an increase in apartments that's something we really need to know today to be prepared for a final adoption in December so yeah emotional direction probably is what we need to do that emotional correction mm-hmm maybe we should start with Mini Storage that seemed to be the easier one question for the administrator okay how long would it take you to bring back that change Inlet foot in the land use for many for the Mini Storage bring back what do you mean by bring back well to bring us a change in the land-use development to develop an overlay district for the 56 car car door yeah so an overlay district would take a few months to divide I probably wanted to reach out to the horizontal long table and various stakeholder groups we could put together that ordinance take it through the ordinance development team take it to oh no that's the big black hole I would disagree with that I mean they've done a lot of work over the last 18 months they've done a lot of things through that so I would say even if the the ordinance was ready today you have a three month public notification and

median process between the Planning Commission right and in your agenda process so I mean it's not you have even Terry and David had one ready today to go we we have it be a three month process so you know and I don't even count the time to to do the research build the document right you know between planning in the county attorney's office so think because we have a lot of MPD's on the 54 corridor that have the right to trade off entitlements too many stores and so and some right now and some of those MPD's that's an administrative change and so it's not clear whether what you're proposing would be eliminating their ability to do that that's why this is not a neat and clean issue that you can just say these areas can't have them any more because you have existing MPD's out there that have the ability to do them already and then are you gonna take that away or not that's that's that's the discussion needs to be happy yeah I don't think we need to be taken away I believe we need to go forward and approve these fees and I don't think we need to step out there in front of our community that development and just change all that Ronald said we're sort of on a different different topic now we made well we need directions from you today on is the mobility food and what do you want us to do on the mouth on the mini storage fees and I'll go back to that slide this this is what the Planning Commission recommended just uber clearly has an increase across the board on all Mini Storage in the county and so far we've seen little very little opposition to this if you do this does that slow down that development and those areas I can't tell you when it's going to slow you know at what point the fees will actually act to slow down the development cuz as mr. Stein Center says it's not a zoning change all it is is its increasing the amount they have to pay for the road impactions in it yeah it's it's kind of weird how you're making rural so high that that's not because they were making real so high we were directed to remove the incentive the incentive for rural across-the-board we actually have more incentive going to the rural area than we do into urban and suburban I know that's counterintuitive but there's more incentive money on any use in the rural and so when you remove that incentive for rural it makes their feet go apart the frustration for me is that I am supportive of the density plan that we put into effect when the Commissioner Schrader was here to stop urban sprawl but it's very expensive to provide government services to it so we want to increase density on the 54 corridor but we also want jobs so the the whole issue to me so I mean with that increase density we're gonna need the storage units but they don't have to be 54 friends that is the issue with me but you can't increase density and not provide storage forever just needs to be off the main road I mean that's where we need offices and this is not that's a zonie dilemma that's his owning issue well I'd like

you to expose I think it's just said that I think your planning staff has heard that message and I and I think they will move forward on that yeah but today we need to know what to do with the fees yes my issue you know my concern with this as where does it stop but we've got McDonald's and all these restaurants going on fit for on the front of John figure four they don't pay any more or less than a storage you know would pay where does it stop are we gonna start saying we can't have with all restaurants yeah I just need the whole process that again if we're gonna go back and look at both of these in my opinion these go back to that mobility feed team let them look at I don't think we're in a future doesn't need to be done it needs to be done that by December because we said it does with but we can wait till March at this point we've waited long enough I just think the process needs to be vetted needs to be done correctly and you know Commissioner Moore I might agree with you at the end but I want to really hear what they say and do the study on it and it doesn't need to go back to the Planning Commission I'm not sure but I think the mobility fee the group that you put together they need to look at but I believe both of these again I the market decides we're walking a fine line when we start deciding my opinion so I would say that this one passed unanimously I think the Planning Commission and I went to the mobility fee so I say that's going to this one did not go to this community they want to be mobility the only thing I would caution you about going back to the committee is as Miss ball I just mentioned there was a lot of reductions that the committee recommended particularly for the harbor's area and so if you delay this it's just delaying the ability for the harbor's earlier between two months isn't gonna make or break there's I'm not gonna say it is I'm just telling you there probably are some developers and harbors that are waiting for those reductions to take effect so but it's ultimately up to the board if you if you really they know that we disbanded the committee because we thought their work was done but could we read yes that could be done I just think it's the right thing to do to include them in this process again I respect the Planning Commission's decision and quite frankly I would be okay with going forward with the storage facilities but I just again I think this was something we kind of brought up at the end when we were going through the studies and it really needs to be Bennett again it kind of goes like mr. hobby said it kind of goes against everything we've talked about for the four years I've been here which is you know density and just like Starkie development we're wanted ready to work play live right there in the community this is basically we're saying well we don't want that now that's a board so there is another option which is you could move the ordinance forward with no increases I mean no increases too many storage or apartments and do

our next update won't be for five years but you could over the next year okay just those two fees and we could change just those two fees and yeah yeah I mean even though the next full update won't be till five years from out you could do a interim review of those just those two beans that's what I would like to see just so we again we're being transparent it's everybody that needs to be involved involved again and I'm not saying no to either one but I just think needs to go through the process mr. chairman yes that might be the thing to move it without the changes and then at the same time we look at the land-use changes from both to what could be worked out then you look at those at the same time and know through rather than slow down this process yeah Mr no I would don't consider that and we just thought a couple things too I think what you could possibly hear during the next hearing is frustration among some people on that far along that 5456 corridor that do do business there that do have a high frustration with the amount of multifamily are going along that 5456 corridor and back to a commissioner Starck you mentioned earlier taking away some of those Lane uses where the kid B office or employment opportunities there and you just thought that were constantly sticking up multi I mean I encourage anybody to take a drive along there in the next few days and look at how many apartment complexes are going up right right before you get to the overpass 5625 overpass I mean it is turning into apartment city that's what it is I mean the land mass around there's probably size of several Hills the city of sefar Anil's or Port Richey and it's all apartments they're huge complexes how much more do you need right there I mean so that's taking away that front is that you talk about commissioners whether it be multi or storage or multifamily it's going away because you have apartment complex of apartment complex or apartment complex so I mean I'm sure you I'm sure you'll hear from some people in the next at the next step here people that work in the business community they're tired of it I hear it all the time plus hear from residents but - so but some of the some of those folks along there or not I Drive it every day so I see it and again commissioner if we go through the process they might that mobility feed folks might come back and say you're right we looked at it we studied it we're oversaturated but I know the uli report talked about it that was done talks about the need for that I mean we're doing well again I go back I'm not saying you know I've changed my tune a little bit from during the Mobility feet workshop of I said hey if you already have your entitlements I'm fine with that I get it I get it it's moving forward with any additional there's only again don't forget this is a this is a incentive your eccentricity you're saying it's innovates them this is an incentive so you're saying it's okay to incentivize them family along that area that's what

you're doing you're not raising the fee in essence you're just not incentivizing them anymore there's a big difference it's a big difference so you're saying when you incentive by something you said you want more huh that's what incentive is it encourages more of something right so this multi-family also townhomes for zoning purposes I believe the answer is yes but it but it does have a different fee and the utility fee schedule so wouldn't so the only once you tie my yard this is limited the proposal was limited to apartments it would not include condos it would not include townhomes it would not include age restricted multifamily does not include affordable or low income it isn't CS this is market rate apartments that's we were asked to look at okay so but to Commission Marianas point we could bring this forward as part of a larger zoning change because they're both changes to the land of L Mikoto I think you could combine that effort of looking at land use zoning for those two uses and then as part of that also look at the mobility fees for those two uses so that could be done and as part of that effort at a later date if that's what the board want us to do okay so the proposal is to bring this back when they represent the so it won't be the mobility fee part that will slow it down it'll be the zoning you know it'll say the zoning part we just did one with those 15 problem that one area I think it plummeted about seven months forget it back again but they can start both room getting ready at this key but keep them at the same time it's only two things were looking at seven months all right is about right six or seven months would be the best-case scenario it factors the time to be the research and the time to move it through the is stakeholder groups and bodies ahead of the LPA the horizontal on table the ODT stakeholder groups and then but how many muscles do you need to do I mean levels do you need a the typical amendment LDC a land development process is to develop the ordinances in-house with the audience development team and take it to the horizontal round table do a little back and forth if needed and then coat to the LPA with those amendments and schedule the public hearing process with the board process per second the the reason we go to all those groups is so that they get buy-in on the change otherwise they're gonna be crowding your Commission chambers saying this never went to up so I am so we do that for every mini how many though that's what was asked I mean well horizontal roundtable is generally meaning of the development community but there's one and Planning Commission we have to go to because they're your local planning agency they have to recommend on any implant of all mikoto change its consistency for the competent but the group see something they sound like it or no the team is just staff it's just stuff all day all it is is staff that is drafting the ordinance is what it is so I'm not sure

there's any more you can cut out of the process and I just think it's important again to realize them leaving here today that the board or portion of the board is willing to incentivize multi-family in those areas again incentivize it mr. chairman to encourage more it's my own but it's the way you're changing it though is you're adding a cost to us you're addi incentivizing it's a little bit different you're taking a mistake we've already given thinking we're gonna get certainty that they were told not on a Mac no and that's again that's why said you already have the entitlements yeah the intelligence you have any attentiveness your fee doesn't increase but what about like the ones that's working on a PUD you get ones are coming forward I'm in their chairman just saying that on the radar motion I just I've got a leader and you have a consent agenda that's still waiting on some other items so what I'm hearing is the majority of the board wants us to defer both of these increases and bring it back whenever we do the zoning land-use changes for those two uses yes you'll be able to put together the Mobility feed team again to look at those two things I think it's two commissioners Morris point I'm not sure I want to create a recreate the committee just to look at 2 p.m. cuz then that's another step I got to do so ok but that's not going to be the stuff it takes a while it's gonna be by the way you just got promoted so you need to make sure happens these go make it happen quite there I think you guys not gonna take six months put the committee back together and discuss this I think thank you probably if you wanted to go to the mobility for you guys you're committing in we can do that I just think it's worth having them look at these two things and it's up the board I don't I haven't spoken to the folks they're on the board but I think there's two of them were here today but they seem to be okay with it okay well we can do that well we need a timeline they don't like the timeline no I didn't agree to it so I mean do you think six months you got six months can you get it done in six months or six months okay yeah just to the to zoning issues yes the Mini Storage is is a little different because I've been really impact the definition the underline definition of what an urban service area is if we're looking at redoing zoning along 54 for multifamily you're actually unwinding a lot of what you've put into your urban service area so those are really two separate issues one the the Mini Storage is probably relatively straightforward that we can work through the the high density and I'm not gonna calm okay I'm caught I density in the urban service here because that's what you've said you wanted it in your comp plan if you want to unwind that and say okay we don't want high density in our urban service area that's a significantly different type of work than just going back and dealing with Mini Storage your I need a lot of stuff okay so the one thing that you have to take

into account is that there's the zoning code rewrite that's taking place and I think that's an important element here to consider because when you talk about multifamily and zoning multifamily isn't just in an r4 zoning district it's also in some things like c2 as conditional uses you're gonna have to look at if you're looking at 54 56 or you have to look at the gambit with the wide range of zoning districts that include the multifamily so it is a little difficult to parse and pull apart because you're gonna have to make some decisions whether or not some of these land uses belong in permitted uses versus conditional uses versus special exceptions etc so I think the mini storage issue from Elena's perspective is relatively and I say relatively I use that term loosely straightforward the the high-density discussion which is what we're talking about when we talk about multifamily is probably a lot more intertwined with not just zoning but the comp plan the urban service area everything else you've set out over the last several years to say this is where we want high-density growth so there's a lot more that has to go into how do we how do we do kind of the goalie of commission Wharf getting it off of the 54 frontage there's a lot more we have to look at with that than we would with Mini Storage now that we we can look at it and see what that would would take but there's a lot more that goes into that than just what the making swore to be so those would need to be on two separate timelines I think part of the challenge in our counties the lack of east-west roads that and the lack of being able to go too deep off of 5456 puts a lot on the on the road frontage that you would normally see buried in in other counties more in the in you know when you have a grid system you could put it behind somewhere and so we we have those those challenges because of the way that what the the parks are the spoke with properties it puts everything pretty visible on to Rosa that's a good point um and usually what you want to try to do is put your density or high density land uses to neighbor your high intensity land uses such as your commercial or your office developments to create that buffer between those high intensity uses and your low density residential so you well your what you'd like to ideally try to create as a situation where there's a grid in place that supports the missing middle housing between your high intensity corridors and you're going ten City dwelling areas right we don't have that kind of lip makeup right now County and the whole point of that of course is that sorry the whole point of that of course is to stack as much type of as meant as many land uses as you can on the existing infrastructure that you have in place roads water mains sanitary sewers even the private infrastructure and power lines and what have you so that you're getting the most bang for your buck you're getting the most land use for the least amount of investment so this being

Commissioner I don't say yeah I think both commissioners have great points about not wanting to see apartments not wanting to see storage units on 54 the part of the high density part of it that the whole Commission was trying to get to from years ago was we do expect the densities got to go that we don't want to scroll around but at the same time on those frontages it should have better properties then than the two so I think in the land use when we study the whole thing steady diffuse we can actually reassess what we really want to see out there this is a good way to go take a look at it to get there David what and I understand that we're gonna bring this entire Adam back so the mobility fee what I'm suggesting what I'm hearing majority the board wants to do is move the mobility for you forward for adoption with all the changes the committee recommended on December 11th we would postpone any fee increases for mini-storage or apartments until some later effort that's combined with some land use zoning effort so they spend more time with a study in those are you writing the Mini Storage an apartment issue okay all right that's what I'm hearing the majority the board want to do I think it would be important for us to see you know acceptable planning I don't say planning plans it's you know what percentage of of our population should be single-family multifamily apartments you know what what is the norm and so are we out of whack are we unusual I don't think you can answer that today there's no way you can answer that thing but there must be some kind of industry standards from what I'm hearing there are you requesting a kind of fiscal impact analysis of the land uses not fiscal I just want to know what what the normal fire ratios are hold anything up just send me that information you can get that information to her let's stop this out on that point and work on you have your direction David so let's go let's go with that and then let's go to the next time p6 publication for p6 Tampa Bay Times August 18th 2018 [Music] pull the microphone a little bit closer please thank you can't hear you yeah the item before you as you can see did you repeat your name for the record I mean Ed's Odeon with long-range planning thank you yeah before you again is PDV 1915 59 it's a comprehensive plan text amendment which that import of which is removing the DRC from the Comprehensive Plan and replacing it with the Planning Commission where applicable and if I may I'll read the ordinance now it's an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan providing four amendments for removing the reference of the development review committed to policy flew to point one point seven standards for review of rezoning requests rural neighborhoods policy flew two point three point three standards for review of rezoning request little character areas in rural neighborhood protection areas for the protection of existing rural neighborhoods and policy flew

excuse me policy PSF four point three point two input on comprehensive plan amendments then replacing the reference of the development of view committee and substituting the Planning Commission to policy flew 7.1.1 three Starkey ranch maximum levels of development two and policy IDI one point two point two target business incentive programs providing for repealer severability and effective date this is a County initiated comprehensive plan text amendment it is pursuant to the 2008 urban land institute recommendation to this board to redefine and direct the role of the development review committee and also if you recall in July 2018 this year this board did vote to eliminate the DRC from the land development code and this is to conform the l DS of the Comprehensive Plan with that recommendation I'll be delighted to answer any questions you may have mr. Starkey the only was replacing the development review committee in that particular provision with the Planning Commission in fact Commissioner there are elements of the Comprehensive Plan that specifically reference the DRC and as we find those we're having to go back and replace those of the Plan Commission it's that's effectively what that's doing just in DRC the plank just changing the recommendation is for approval and adoption of the ordinance by roll call vote and be delighted to answer any questions anyone may have okay this is in equations this is a public hearing anyone to speak to this item d6 seeing no one puts more splasher got a commission second in a second all those in favor say aye roll call roll call votes District two Commissioner Moore district three Commissioner Starkey I District four commissioner Wells District five commissioner mariano district one chairman oakley motion passed okay the others call these contain these are all containers yeah you may want to do do you have to know okay so you may want to do swearing-in and and the procedures first and then move into your continuances just that we have okay all right there are two rezoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition and the applicant will be considered the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will we be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the

regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn to the record these are quasi judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria for rezoning found within the board's land development and madam Clerk sending one went to testify this afternoon you could stand raise your right hand thank you okay do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth so help you God thank you very much Madame clerk if you have proof of publication from 7:00 on down five seven eight nine and ten okay for p7 Tampa Bay Times September 14th 2018 for p8 Tampa Bay Times September 28 2018 P 9 Tampa Bay Times November 2nd 2018 P 10 Tampa Bay Times September 14th 2018 okay P 7 has continued to January 22nd 2018 yield to the yield to the planning director and he'll go through the the public hearing items were never being continued all right Thank You mr. chairman I might add that further petitioners request item P 12 which is coming on the consent agenda would like to continue that to the December 11 so so why don't you do the ones that are currently scheduled for continuance and then we'll get to p12 okay so item p7 is the zoning amendment called Hagman and PUD master plan new development by the Royal Edward had been revocable trust and Kelly Shaw vinyl D Hagman and Robert G Hagman co-trustees it's a rezoning request from an AR one air cultural residential zoning district in MPU D master plan unit development to allow 130 single-family detached units on approximately forty six point seven seven acres the property is located in central Pasco on the north side of Wisteria loop rocks 21,000 feet west of US Highway 441 the item has continued requesting continuance to January 22 2019 BCC meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey item pH take them one at a time so to continue tenser second and motion a second to continue to January 22nd 2019 all those in favor say aye aye aye all opposed like sign motion pass item p8 there's a conditional use amendment and the name of Angelo's aggregates limited class one mine and class three landfill to amend to remove time and replace with volume located north of Enterprise Road west of Alton Road east of duck Lake Canal Road the item is requested for a continuance to December 11 2018 CCC meeting at 1:30 p.m. second an emotional second all in favor say aye item P 9 is a conditional use request in the name of Carol a Roth the operation of a power glide launch and landing field in an AC agricultural district that juice is in Central Pasco County at the southeast corner of the intersection

of Mackenzie Road and Timbo vote the item is requested to be continued to the January 8 2019 PCC meeting at 1:30 p.m. and a second all those in favor say aye I like sun's motion pass item p10 is a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of C pal 1809 Eggman it is a future land-use change from res three residential feed while units per gross acre to PD plan development on approximately forty six point eight one acre is located on Mysterio beer approximately 550 feet west of Land O Lakes Boulevard potato Jo 22nd 2008 - second animation second all those in favor say aye all right thank you motion passed and then item p12 is a zoning amendment to be put on the continuance Swindon only limited so as far as we were it was p10 do you want me to go through the consent items for publication let's just do p12 for right now since since he's changing he's pulling it off a consent and and asking it to be continued okay so p12 was advertising the Tampa Bay Times November 2nd 2018 so be 12 again is a zoning amendment shrine family limited partnership it's a change in zoning from AC agricultural district to po1 professional office north-central Pasco County the continuance is requested until December 11 2018 mr. chairman mr. chairman given that this was advertised as an approval and you have a speaker signed up for it can miss Hazelwood do you wish to waive your comments today for the hearing in December or you get one shot either today or or on the 11th a motion in a second all those in favor say aye hi motion passed now we'll go to be 11 so now that can now the rest of the consent agenda that you that you've got you've got the proof of publication format yep okay P 11 Tampa Bay Times August 3rd 2018 along with affidavit of certified mailings and site postings P 13 Tampa Bay Times October 12th sorry 2001 2018 with affidavit of certified mailings and site postings P 14 Tampa Bay Times November 2nd 2018 P 15 16 17 and 18 November 2nd 2018 P 19 Tampa Bay Times October 5th 2018 P 20 Tampa Bay Times October 19th 2018 p-21 Tampa Bay Times November 2nd 2018 well I see one more consent zoning consent I don't mean to stop there oh that's sorry that's P 11 p23 it's not concerned yeah but you went through tour last Poirot so we go back P level so litem p11 is the zoning amendment this one is related to item p3 that you heard earlier for the comprehensive plan amendment Gulf Breeze Manor this is his own amendment factory direct marine and recreational vehicle and PUD master planning the development by Patriot Bank a rezoning request from C to general commercial and mf1 medium density multifamily zoning districts between M PUD Master thing new development zoning district to allow fifty thousand square feet of commercial development approximately seven point seven two acres and a variation in the land development code section 905 point two point three point five Temodar landscaping

the resolution was sending the development order of the Grove at Wesley Chapel DRI number 253 resolution Oh 5-1 56 as subsequently amended and restated and providing for an effective date it comes to you with a recommendation for approval anyone here to speak against p21 seeing no one they were a lane all consent and it plays with the board on all consent items from break it says okay motion um second on all concerns all those in favor say I was like sign motion passed P 22 has already been taken care of P 23 drove proof of publication P 23 Tampa Bay Times November 1st and November 8 2018 the real property and planning team has received a petition to vacate a platted alleyway filed by William and Kitson and Melissa D Kitson the subject vacation area contains 0.13 acres more or less and is located in Wesley Chapel the petitioners own the adjacent parcels to the north and south and the alleyway is undeveloped and vacating the alleyway would not affect surrounding access to the surrounding parcels and there have been no objections to the petition and team recommends approval has everyone here to speak to you P 23 seeing no one second all right I got a motion and the second all those in favor say aye aye aye motion passed I think they've decided to with Kathy you've decided to withdraw see 78 for today's agenda for today yeah 78 withdrawn okay well go now - Oh business commissioner back in June I brought up a situation where we had staff we're trying to take care of a sea wall that had collapsed in and Hudson and it's gotten worse lady was just asking me about what's going on with again she emailed everybody something just a little while ago with the latest pictures same kind of see what's going on out there talking with our staff because the ordinance the way it's written there's nothing more than can be done and it actually closes the file so let's just see the pictures where's this at Henson this isn't Hudson this some tissue the first one just shows that's wrote it back a little bit further the next picture I think they just showed the other picture it shows helmetless all the concrete blocks in there see wall collapse they put the concrete blocks in the only thing we could do because of the code the way it's written is actually the pull those blocks out I want to recommend and I do have the Hernando County ordinance that we have staff take an immediate look at this don't look at a document because what it says in Hernando County is if you have the seawall in the neighborhood and one collapse is in force the people to fix it if they don't fix it as a fine you can reconstruct it for the lien the property get it rebuilt yeah this is something that we need to go do we don't have the other thing in the past we don't have anything like it med fact right now the way that sits right now is legal and there's nothing they can do about it which doesn't make any sense and I could text me back

earlier today saying there's nothing more we can do the case is closed but if that goes it's already affecting the neighbors already we need to go back and look at this ordinance very quickly I mean if we can bring it back into the maybe not the next meeting but the next couple of meetings coming back I think of somebody to address okay so I'll hand it to mr. Spence Nader so that was something happen in June next thing everybody remembers in boatyard drive we spent the time and money without staffs to go through we had full lots around up one property and divided up we helped develop the property and I told you back in July that we were having an issue with how high at the seawall could be built so one of them was that say that three foot higher than the base level those only pictures I'm gonna show you okay so the base levels that three foot higher than what the ground was and our staff did not want the person to build a seawall up to the highest love let me see what was there happen there it happened on Beverly Drive as well now I'm gonna talk about the Tempe Regional Planning Council in just a moment but I'm gonna say we need to go take a look at how we want to build you see walls how high because if you want to look at the latest data that's out there if we're gonna get a 6-foot increase in sea wall our sea level rise thanks five six foot by twenty by the year 2100 if that's the number and we're only allowing people not even to match the highest level that's out they were in serious trouble now I'm going to open up to the Tempe Regional Council when we had a presentation on that Regional Planning Council resolution I want the boy to know I talked about it at the meeting while I was there and as I go as I went through it I wasn't negative to the resolution I just wanted to get some significant effect in there which would actually show that we're going to do something that would be effective now I'm gonna read this to you real quick it's just from Sean Sullivan their executive director whether they can assure you you might have been on there when they hired this gem he's a very smart man and I ask you about this and when the report reporter from the Tampa Bay Times interviewed me on it I says don't just take my word for it I know those meetings that tape you can go get the verbage from there you can go talk to the executive director or other members we find out what I said at the meeting to bring it back forward and I'm just gonna read you it's actually online I can be Milotic Miller you listen to the audio clip this is Commissioner Mario please find the audio clip of your statement from the August 13th Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council meeting where the topic of resiliency was discussed your statements at this meeting certainly reflect your support for his agency in storm surge in rising floods in Pasco County your input into resiliency discussion is valued much yesmy to creating a more resilient TV Bay has never been in doubt by the council staff we have communicated with

your staff as requested on the topic of resiliency and we're happy to continue this communication thank you for your commitment to regionalism if you years of support for the Regional Planning Council dishes including resiliency now I'll tell you when I meet my comments what I asked the executive director to meet with it was a growth management person knowing we had these issues about how the height of the seawall should be and how it didn't make sense for our staff to say well build them lower than higher and then have another staff go I says you know part of the discussion was FEMA NFIP and everybody should be on the same page and as the Regional Planning Council I think you should be alive and you could start with my board because I know we need help our own staff as far as field what we need to go do to make us more resilient before we've been talking resiliency just to build the sea walls what they should be built in doing so I asked both of them to go meet when they were gonna meet it was gonna be a change to the resolution about how it was gonna be worded to put something in there we're gonna actually do something with that type of thing because the resolution the weights drafted doesn't really address it is generalities but it doesn't mean anything's gonna happen and I just didn't want to pass the resolution coming forward I expected them to to me and was it was Terry and Sean and just they didn't meet it didn't come back whether resolutions and you know when we have a transition with my staff person where the riskless was getting pushed on it just not didn't quite happen as a matter of fact if you remember the neuroscience senate and open bayonet point hospital and it opened up that was supposed to be done back in July but all this he was done in July so September we're gonna have a meeting that didn't happen till last month so I want to say that the interviewer from the Tampa Bay Times the article ok completely did not do their research to find out exactly what was said was going on I wasn't pushing this thing back I just want to make it as good as it possibly could be rather do something not read it so I apologize to the board to be put in Pasco County in a bad light if I not being part of that resolution but it doesn't mean we can't join it but it does mean we can actually make this thing better in an in deal with it I think you've heard me deal with this sea water issues it I'm not saying that nothing's going to happen and we don't need to protect ourselves but I'm gonna tell you the way that article is done was terrible and I want to tell you the opinion letter to the 10th Bay Times never called me to interview me and I don't know if anyone didn't either in the background work so I want you to know as I sit in every committee I do stress what I think is important if I thought there's any issues that we're going on and let you know but yeah we missed the timing deadline that's all that happened and it shouldn't have

anywhere near that the other way it went but I will tell you it's something we can address and bring it back and hopefully Terry if Terry will vouch that he's willing to meet with Sean as well it's not a big issue it's just a matter of debt getting this right and just just for the record back in 2010 the southeast Florida Regional Climate Change compact was formed much in the same thing with climate change etc okay was highly resounded mentioned in the study that self they have this documents out there but this is something that can be done should be done and we can work together but I think we can start providing a lot of information if my staff feels that we shouldn't raise these walls up to a certain level there's being done locally right now then we need to actually address all that anyway so Terry going to talk to that yes Terry Petros with planning development just to confirm it Commissioner Mariana we are in dialogue with mr. Sullivan he did provide us with a revised memorandum of understanding with regard to the TDR resolution that they that they were that they approved on October 8th or signed on October 8th he provided that to us about a week before the Thanksgiving break during which time I was in training so I'm going to be responding to mr. Sullivan this week regarding that and again we're gonna member understand so good you know where we're at and Terry thank you very much and I think again it happened it happened the way it happened is just unfortunate but there's no where I'm trying to deflect anything trying to make this County as good as it possibly can be especially on the coast but in Terry when you do talk about as well as sea wall height we're gonna need to go take I think a look at the sea wall Wooden's near the sea wall odin's but the well the seal of would is that if we put more than 500 square feet of concrete right now over sea wall it actually makes it stable okay and the more concrete you put around it makes that even more stain right now we have you do a second permit when you're going over five hundred square feet so trying to mention a big canal home if you're gonna go more than that to go build it up and you could make it stronger we're not restricting that we're also making to take another thing which I think should get looked at is our fill fill permit that we put in years ago when people are filling in on the lower areas and flooding out the neighbors it's not the case in the water if someone wants to build their area pyre we should let them go up higher not put them to another castle with another see see well permit to go through four fill ordinance and if somebody says that FEMA doesn't want us to go high and one of our own staff people actually said that FEMA doesn't care as long as you don't affect the base flood elevation so think of how high that is that's what the heck they want the water flow back when it's going to flow back they're not worried about what that little square feet of property is so Tara if you can find out how you can work that verbage

in as an action I didn't with that member understanding I think the planning expertise that you'll have that we can give the region pantry Regional Planning Council will actually help the whole region and the only issue theirs as they work on this that you should drain out your own water so you just have to build that and you shouldn't drain your lot on to your neighbors Lots prayer slain you're quiet you're absolutely correct I'm sorry to bring it up but that is one of the points to that's very cute and I talked operation wanna see that happen as well but absolutely you should be like all your rainwater and drain it out and even if you get to put a little concrete when you put on the edge you got a picture toward the water anyway and if you can control all your regular structures that take that water and directly drain it out that's better for the Gulf anyway so yeah you're absolutely right okay can I just have two more things just well I just want to say this hey everybody could talk about events I got to talk about it up it with that issue I'm gonna go with that up at Sunwest Park the Classical Academy is got a a 5k run and extra runs up there it's going to be the first week in December let's say first or second week in December and then the beach charity event with care is going to come up December 15th and 16th I thought that was the first weekend in December its chair beach chair they had they moved into the 15/16 they did yeah I want to bring something up that he wants to bring out huh well I'll just wait to be dong with okay I got about well as I think was mentioned about eight hours ago all for bond propositions passed and so we are meeting and working through a plan of action to execute those in a timely manner I think you will see a resolution on your agenda next meeting on the 11th to start the validation process the county attorney forthwith the bond counsel parallel that we're working with the various departments and facilities to make sure we have an executable plan to get these things done at a timely manner so we meet the intent of the voters across the board so I want to let you know we're working that will probably bring you something to look at or send you out a report kind of what that looks like here in the next four to six weeks back to your favorite topic I so we need to complete the litigation assessment meeting that we started today on Diane they're all Cobra neck versus Pasco County and Bonnie Venki case number five one - 2016 - CA - 3 4 8 4 - WS Florida sixth Judicial Circuit my proposal was to follow up immediately after you've got a special meeting set for December 4th and as soon as that land-use matter is over we can recess to a closed session to finish up that that matter if that meets with the approval of the board okay and I desire advice of the Board of County Commissioners concerning pepper contracting services a Florida corporation versus Pasco County Florida a political subdivision in the state of

Florida Pasco County Circuit Court sixth Judicial Circuit Civil Division case number five one - 2016 - CA - three two five four WS and pepper contracting services a FARC corporation versus Pasco County Florida a political subdivision in state of Florida Pasco County Circuit Court sixth Judicial Circuit civil division case number five 1 2016 - CA - three one four eight - yes to discuss settlement negotiations and strategy related to Lewisham expenses and for that reason I request a private attorney client meeting to be scheduled for December 11th F for approximately 45 minutes and it's up to the board whether they want to do it before the meeting at lunch or after the meeting I know Commissioner Moore said he had I found liked okay so we'll set internal 11th yep we'll set it for noon on the 11th okay okay and that's all that I have for you today thank you are you do you have something don't have the movie yeah that's all okay you can no I just we got the dredging report I don't know if any of you looked at some of those costs but I thought it was ridiculous and I want to know if we're gonna talk about that because I want to re look at how they looked at some of the channels for example the South channel the one I live on a golf harbours as far as I know the only issue is a short you know 20 meter the 20 yard area on the way out of of the channels but they costed the whole channel with you know sixteen million dollars so I I'm not sure what happened there but I'd like to further we need to go into that report at something and I haven't seen that report I know it came out oh yeah I got an email okay I don't think people look at that because I think you've read right on the money it was expected because very very little work to be done in golf harbors Hudson Channel well we'll find out what happened and we'll go after house even charge us to go look at that thank you I just want I just want us to look at that dredging report and tweak it all right we're all good so thank you again for your confidence and supporters of German and now that work hard to do so all of staff Dan owing all your staff now all the people in your team's work with I appreciate everything to do and they've done for the two years up in here I know they're gonna get better every day so Don's assured me his whole team's gonna be the best so I appreciate each and every one of them and look forward to working with them this year and there's a lot going on there's a lot more gonna go those referendums we passed I mean pretty amazing what's going to happen here in Pasco County and all the good things there's coming about so we got I wanna caution us too because the exterior homestead did not pass so I want us to be very careful with the monies we have force in the future because that allowed 12 million dollars to be there that we thought might not be

there but we want to be real careful and proven how we spend money or or actually give back so for this for this year it's coming here pretty 19 420 this one here 20 but we're trying to say that yeah you're joining budget so being working on you so I think it's very very much so we have to pay attention to those monies and it's our citizens money and we need to be very careful how we use that and if we do not need it we need to be giving back so thank you for everything so with that journey [Music] you