10.12.18 Pasco BOCC Meeting - Part 2

[Music] good afternoon everyone I would like to call back the order of Pasco County Board of County Commissioners meeting of October 23rd 2018 I would like to write on to everyone present to please silent their electronic devices it's time now for resolutions madam clerk will you please read the first resolution so mr. chairman we have okay I need a motion I guess I'll make a motion to hear the Emergencies we have former ce resolutions move to was that a second there's four there's four yes I was laughing at the four have a motion to approve four welcome resolutions for the second all those in favor say aye okay madam clerk proceed with the first one a resolution for Alice Delgado if you could come forward get up there lady [Laughter] let's just be grateful Thank You commissioner well mr. chairman real quick and unfortunately chairman wells has fallen ill and he really really wanted to be here so he feels bad so he offers his thanks to you but he didn't want to be here today he really did but he's not doing too hot right now so it's better that he is this this he sponsor this resolution for you to see oh no thank you resolution number 1919 whereas Alice Delgado is a woman who wears many hats and under most of those hats she is busy selflessly helping members of the community and whereas she helps local families as a guardian ad litem as a board member for healthy families of Pasco County and a board member of the Coalition for the homeless she has been very involved as a volunteer with community service community service council a former member of a holiday Rotary Club and she MCS for several nonprofit organizations events and whereas alice is and always has been a strong leader for local women as a former president of business business and professional women of Colusa and as a member of the Pasco County Commission on the status of women and whereas Alice has a master's in education she is a graduate of leadership ASCO and as a former nurse her entire career has been about helping others and whereas most recently Alice has been given been giving back to our local community in her role as president CEO of the United Way of Pasco County where as a United Way of Pasco County's vision is to advance the common good of all residents of Pasco County the United Way of Pasco County achieves this by creating opportunities for people to have a better life by addressing the underlying causes of present challenges that will ultimately bring about long lasting changes and whereas Alice Delgado began achieving this vision with the you know United Way of Pasco County as the vice president of community impact on October 23rd 2016 due to her hard work and dedication to the residents of Pasco County Ellis was named president CEO of United Way of Pasco County within a month of November 14th 2000 on November 14th 2016 a role in which she impacted

the lives of those she served and whereas under her leadership United Way has established itself as a well known nonprofit and community leader by experiencing growth and fundraising established a defined Community Impact plan building strategic partnerships and focusing on providing grants to organizations which demonstrate measurable impact and whereas the United Way board of directors and staff are saddened by Alice's departure yet they are thankful for her leadership and take pride in their work accomplished together once retired Alice will be greatly missed by her co-workers colleagues and the community she has served now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby recognizes Alice Delgado for her years of dedicated service to the community and congratulate her on her retirement Dunnan resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board and you can tell mr. chairman today yes I say so much more so I've known Alice for quite some time now and we also said on the homeless advisory board together or Council I should say together and just whenever you walk in a room you just bring a smile to people's faces because all the good you do and I you can see that from all the people that are here for you today a lot of people sittings or even people standing back there but we are yeah yeah [Music] so they were all yes they were all hitting out in our in our offices today so but we you'll be obviously dearly missed by not only this commission and this and this staff but by the community too but we know there's great things ahead for you and you'll continue to do great things so with for that with that we thank you I am only as great as the people I'm surrounded by the people I get to partner and work with so thank you you can be gone for a little while but we don't want your bags I'll be back okay so let me ask a question does that mean it's going to be an increase in funding for United Way [Laughter] [Music] budget cycles done for the year I'm sorry I'm sorry mr. chairman what did you say to discuss it will work that way I'll be happy to step out of retirement for that but thank you very much mr. Mariana Thank You Alice has been a pleasure to serve you serve with you in the community you've always been a great leader great compassion whatever whatever endeavor you've been looking at or whatever cause you were going for so we were greatly missed but I wish you all the best thank you well I mean I think that's just temporary that we're gonna be seeing you step aside for a little bit and as I've gotten to know you better and it seems like you just became the head of United Way how long has it been two years you've done so much in that time and

it's just been a pleasure working with you and I look forward to continuing to work with you so fantastic here about a couple weeks ago I got to give a young lady a car and be present while they do this terrific thank for the young lady to help her a lot that's great thank you want to hand up yeah yes that's exactly right I think I just want to emphasize that Commissioner Wells Israeli or chairman Wells is really disappointed he couldn't be here he has enjoyed serving with you on United Way board and all of the wonderful things you've done so I know she probably talked to all of us to say please make sure Ellis knows how much she's appreciated and that he'll see you before you actually retire thank you I hope he feels better if he's well chemically apologize coming in again keep her team come up too and maybe we can greet Alice and then we can come back ups and there's a big team up yeah thank you you guys yeah and her family's here too so [Music]

and that's to get up [Laughter] [Music]

Kelly [Music] [Applause] [Music] our madam clerk and next resolution is anyone here representing dr. Musa nuru and the Regional Medical Center of bayonet point I saw Kurt while we could have the board meeting here that's good hey great resolution number 19 24 whereas in the United States every 40 seconds an unexpected victim suffers from a stroke while every four minutes someone dies from one and whereas raising the community medical standards for treatment of acute stroke to optimal levels significantly decreases morbidity and mortality and whereas the major efforts of dr. Roe Moussa nuru while serving as president of the American Heart Association Florida affiliate were instrumental in passing the Florida stroke act by the Florida Legislature with the help of Pasco legislators in 2004 and whereas the Florida Stroke Act created the nation's first statewide emergency stroke system establishing Primary Stroke Center's and it requires emergency medical systems providers to transport suspected stroke patients to the nearest hospital with a certified stroke center rather than just to the nearest hospital and whereas dr. Roe Moussa new room not only was instrumental in establishing the nationally accredited Heart Institute at regional medical center Baena point but also encouraged establishing the first and only comprehensive Stroke Center in Pasco County licensed by the agency for health care administration and whereas the state of the art comprehensive Stroke Center part of the newly expanded neuroscience Center at Regional Medical Center vena point provides patients with all day and all night availability of immediate access to the full spectrum of the latest technologies in the detection detection treatment and rehabilitation of strokes including life-saving acute neuro interventions and whereas every passing moment after the onset of stroke destroys part of the brain and the emergency intervention interventional treatment of acute strokes decreases not only death but also disastrous long-term disability benefiting not only individuals but also the community at large now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby wishes to extend its gratitude and recognition to dr. Raul Moussa nuru and the Regional Medical Center Baena point for their continued efforts and serving the community providing nationally recognized state-of-the-art medical care and improving the quality of life within our community done unresolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board second all those in favor say aye all right you know seen it was just a couple months ago we were at the groundbreaking for the neuroscience center and what what a great day that was and to go back to the legislation

crafted many years ago that you were so instrumental in I just thought worthy of doing this resolution dr. muin over four years you've been here what made you select Pasco County is a great story itself we're just so delighted that you're here you've made Pasco a much better place saving lives and even the lives that are saved just by the timing of this type of thing improving those lives that you did save as well just a testament to humanity itself so again we're grateful to you your whole team for the great work you've done for this county you've made it a much better place I haven't heard that story but would you like to say a few words doctor thank you on behalf of Bayonet Point thank you so much for recognizing it's certainly an honor and a privilege to work with dr. Madera he has done so much for the community and not just for the community but for Florida as a whole as a state so as you say saving lives and it's just a privilege to work for citing dr. Moo sooner we'll come on thank you thank you all very much oh [Applause] it's all good now I want to get that story someday [Music]

next resolution Thank You the next resolution we have is by title only I believe is Pamela peony here okay resolution number 1917 a resolution by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida recognizing pamela peony for her outstanding achievements in twenty years of dedicated service to the Pasco County Schools and citizens done in a resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board favor say aye aye if a resolution recognizing National Adoption Awareness Month is anyone here and okay great come forward please it's always a joyous day in the courthouse when it's National Adoption Day definitely resolution number 19 23 whereas many children throughout the country are living in substitute care and need loving nurturing and permanent adoptive families to help them achieve their full potential whereas adoption profoundly enriches the lives of children their adoptive parents families in their communities and whereas the average wait time for a child in foster care to be adopted is nearly three years and whereas more than 23,000 children aged out of the foster care system every year with no adoptive family or permanent home and whereas National Adoption Day observed on November 17th 2018 provides an opportunity for a collective national effort to raise awareness of the more than 117 thousand children in foster care waiting to find permanent loving families and whereas approximately two hundred twenty three children in Pasco County are currently waiting to be matched with adoptive families both the families wanting to adopt these children and the many families who have already adopted children deserve and require agency and community support in the days and years ahead and whereas on Friday November 2nd 2018 in celebration of National Adoption Month and day Pasco County unites Family Court at the West Pasco judicial center will open its doors to finalize adoptions of local children and join organizations to celebrate all adoptions and whereas this annual one-day event has helped thousands of children realize the dream of adoption by encouraging policymakers practitioners and advocates to finalize adoptions and celebrate adoptive families now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby declares a month of November as National Adoption Month and recognizes the local community agencies for their involvement with the paschal adoption events throughout the years and for promoting adoption is a positive way to grow families and raise public awareness of foster children waiting adoptions and in so doing urges all citizens to join in a national effort to raise awareness about the importance of adoption done in resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board second all those in favor say aye

aye and I think this is under me and this is plan society so I don't have it really Michelle's not here today but I'd love for you to say some words to the board while we oh was it under me you okay why don't you talk to the board a little bit then we'll come down and so great a is always a very exciting month for us the month of November it just gives us an opportunity to celebrate with all of our wonderful children and families we work with we were actually scheduled to finalize 20 children on National Adoption Day this year and so far since July 1st we finalized 50 children adopting here in Pasco County that's wonderful that is wrong that's wonderful right board let's all go down and we have your name and agency you know my name is Pamela Matisse and I work with Eckerd connects excellent thank you a lot always let's see those pictures a lot of work that's a great my husband [Applause] next resolution is for national home care month recognizing hph home health and hospice is anyone here representing hph ok come forward please resolution number 1918 whereas home care services provide high quality and compassionate health care services to more than 5 million Americans annually especially in times of community or personal health care crisis and whereas 90% of Americans want to age in place and home care is the preferred method of health care delivery for disabled elderly and chronically ill individuals eager to live independently in their own homes as long as they possibly can and whereas homecare in the United States is a growing alternative to hospitalization or other institution based forms of health care for acute and chronic illnesses providing care to millions of Americans each year and whereas 2 million everyday heroes including homecare nurses therapists and aides traveled seven point six billion miles in 2016 to deliver care and worked tirelessly to provide professional support to millions of Americans in need of quality home health care services and whereas these dedicated dedicated home care professionals and volunteers form a support network that continues to play a vital role in health care delivery for our nation's disabled infirm and aging population and whereas home care services throughout through hph home health and hph hospice allow families to stay together and provide for greater health dignity and calm in our community and whereas hph hospice and affiliate of chapters health has been providing home health and hospice services to residents of Pasco County Florida since 1986 and whereas hph home health and hph hospice the National Association for home care and hospice and thousands of home care agencies across the United States have declared the month of November 2018 as a national home care month and encourage the support and participation of all citizens and learning more about the home care and hospice concepts of care for the elderly disabled and infirm now

therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby declares November 2018 as National Home Care Month in Pasco County Florida and recognizes hph home health and hph Hospice for their contributions to our community through their home care services done in resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board for approval ii have a motion a second all those in favor say aye well good afternoon how are you so this was under chairman Wells but unfortunately he's ill today so I'm gonna take over it was kind of fitting that I do because I was I like to say in the home care business for a long time as you know and had my own my own agency until probably bout 2011 when I sold that company so I know the benefit that you provide for the for the community for the citizens and especially on the hospice side you're obviously making many people's I'd hate to use the word last days but some people are you know are moving on and you're comforting them and providing them that just that end-of-life care that is so very important especially what you do also do and the support mechanisms you provide for the family too so you know in providing lots of jobs to for a lot of our nurses and caregivers including CNAs in home health aides in the community you know you just it's I don't a lot of people don't realize the importance of home health care and you know they're we help we talk about our hospitals and our ALS and our and our our sniffs on a regular basis but you know you're giving the P a lot of these people the ability to in their homes and being they come from of their own home right a lot of people obviously prefer that over other means and if they have the ability to do that you're providing that for them so so we thank for that we know how important it is and especially again I'll reiterate the hospice side you have to be a very very special person to work in hospice and a very very special person and in you are so thank you for that but if you'd like to say a few words we welcome that thank you and I think on behalf of HP H home health and hospice we would like to just simply say we are absolutely humbled and honored to serve the community and thank you for all the support over the number of years thank you thank you identify your names please for the record I'm Jane Witkowski the director for HP H home health I'm Melissa Fay the representative from HP hom absolute thank you I'll give you a round of applause we'll come down [Applause] ladies I'm gonna jump in the middle of you you get right here there we go and then we'll hold this together [Music] I heard you spell so haunted up high and she a madam clerk next resolution Thank You the next resolution recognizes Community Planning Month is there anyone here representing Community Planning month

please come forward we appreciate all you do resolution number 1921 whereas changes constant and affects all cities towns suburbs counties boroughs townships rural areas and other places and whereas community planning and plans can help manage this this change in a way that provides better choices for how people work live and play the goal of planning is to maximize the health safety and economic well-being for all residents and whereas community planning provides an opportunity for all residents to be meaningfully involved in making choices that determine the future of their community and whereas the full benefits of planning requires public officials and citizens who understand support and demand excellence in planning and plan implementation and whereas a month of October is designated as national community planning month throughout the United States of America and its territories and whereas the American Planning Association and its professional Institute the American Institute of Certified planners endorsed national community planning month as an opportunity to highlight the contributions sound planning and plan implementation make to the quality of our communities and environment and whereas a celebration of national community planning month gives us the opportunity to publicly recognize the participation and dedication of the members of hiding Commission and other citizen planners who have contributed their time and expertise to the improvement of Pasco County and whereas we recognize the many valuable contributions made by professional community and regional planners of Pasco County and extend our heartfelt thanks for the continued commitment to the public service by these professionals now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby recognizes the month of October as Community Planning Month in Pasco County done and resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board and a motion second all those in favor say aye but I see some planners missing I won't tell rest Commission kind of how this came about because this is planning month October and Denise and I were talking after our last meeting in Dade City was our plan commissioner was being a little bashful I think he didn't want to be recognized so but we appreciate everything you do and never never feel bad about the work you're doing here in Pasco you're doing some great work and that target's moving everyday so you know how important good planning is and and we appreciate the work you do so I just like to say I think thank the team is also doing a phenomenal job whether it be from zonings or just long term planning and the different things that we look at and go bradley appreciate what you're doing yes and i I want to remind you that you all have the education and planning we don't so you need to educate us on when it comes time

to vote and we need to know why we need to vote this way or that way I feel it's incumbent upon you to help teach us why and how to make some of these good decisions good planning makes it better for us sorry I was trying to chase down Peter left and I always try to was trying to grab him on the phone I saw him take off so um but that's okay but thank you all for everything you do we know without you obviously things when I move along in this county especially when it comes to all the great things when it comes to economic development in this in this county so I know a lot of people in the audience appreciate you also appreciate everything you do so we look forward to more great things to come here in Pasco County don't we and I thank Terry I believe there are some important things that they need to tell us Thank You mr. chairman thank you to the Board of County Commissioners as well for this recognition with me today of course is the Planning Department of Pasco County as well as a number of our planning partners members of Ong the County Attorney's Office even Development Services just want to highlight the the PD managers while keen sir via Ernie Monaco Denise Fernandez and John Villanova would do a tremendous job with their teams they've all got some really great teams and great people working with them also we had Peter Hanzel who was representing the Planning Commission in so recognizing I would like to introduce mr. Brad Tippin was the senior planner in current planning with PVD to present a recent award that s what County received in September of 2018 as you're aware we've recently brought to you a couple of other awards that we've won through connected city for specifically for best planning practice and coming up with some unique ideas in some way ways to actually achieve some of the goals that haven't been tried before we're lucky enough now that we have actually been recognized by the state APA as well we've won the award of merit for best practices for the connected city comprehensive planning process and land development code writing that we did that goes to all of our private partners all these past and present planners that have all been a part of this process yourselves for clearing the road and and letting us actually move forward in a very unique way something that was very different from things we had done before so we we appreciate that and we're gonna keep doing those kinds of projects for you and we'll Commissioner Starkey will certainly come and let you know what we think you guys should do but this is just another another award to show that the planners are doing great work okay [Applause] [Music]

there's lots of top people in this even standing back here I guess Oakley's gonna stay down there the rest of us are uh Ronnie all right back to work thank you next resolution recognizes national philanthropy day is anyone here representing national philanthropy excellent please come forward resolution number 1915 whereas fillin thought philanthropic organizations promote the welfare of others through many forms of donations and whereas philanthropy is a uniquely American tradition and our American nonprofit sector is a model for countries around the world whereas President Ronald Reagan signed a proclamation recognizing November 15th as national philanthropy day in 1986 and whereas a history of American philanthropy is filled with the names of the earliest Americans and their efforts spawned universities free public libraries homes and for widows and orphans and volunteer fire departments to name a few and whereas in 2017 Americans contributed more than four hundred ten billion dollars to over 1.5 million Charities registered with the International Internal Revenue Service and whereas 63 million Americans volunteer about 8 billion hours annually of their time talent and effort to improve people's lives and whereas America's nonprofit sector now accounts for over 10 percent of the American workforce and whereas today the nonprofit sector affects nearly every citizen in one way or another from museums concert school-sponsored day trips and other groups that enrich our youth through social service agencies that provide food clothing housing and training for those less fortunate now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida that said board hereby proclaims November 15th as national philanthropy day in Pasco County and urges all citizens to recognize the tradition of philanthropy as it continues to improve and enhance the lives of all by promoting the common good done and resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board ii got a motion a second all those in favor say aye alright thank you good afternoon oh you know me as Donny Anderson excuse me CEO of the Coalition for the homeless of Pasco County but I also have the privilege of serving as president of our association of Fundraising Professionals here in Pasco and Hernando we go by the name of danger Coast I'd like to thank you for the recognition several of our board members are here with me and I'd also like to thank you for the community service that you each provide and for your philanthropy in the community you set a great example for us and we really appreciate it as a not-for-profit community the support that we receive from you consistently on all the issues so we're just very grateful and we'd like you to know that we'll be celebrating that day locally here on the

13th Tuesday the 13th it's a luncheon at the Spartan Manor and each of you are invited will recognize local philanthropist as well as organizations that are doing some tremendous work here in the county again Tuesday November 13th well I think they all should speak it saying representing what or what organization are you representing with AFP but I also work with metropolitan ministries AFP but I'm Lisa Richardson Pascoe Hernando State College Foundation Jana McDonald I'm with the Pasco Education Foundation and I'm currently president-elect for the Association of Fundraising Professionals wonderful thank you so much for what you do [Applause] [Music] [Laughter] thank you so much and I'll see you on the seven and we'll get to be [Music] final resolution is for the Florida native plant month is anyone here representing native plants please come forward we want all the members to come up here bring them all with you some information may receive a file thank all those in favor say aye aye okay resolution number 1916 whereas the mission of the Florida native plants societies the preservation conservation and restoration of the native plants and native plant communities of Florida and whereas Florida Native Plant Society began in the summer of 1980 in Winter Park Florida by a group of scientists educators and conservationists concerned about the loss of Florida's native plants and the introduction of non-native species over taking natural areas and whereas the Florida Native Plant Society now consists of 38 chapters and 4,200 members from all walks of life who volunteer their time knowledge and skills in public workshops and land management reviews and raise money for conservation and research grants landscape awards restoration projects and teaching Floridians about the benefits of native plants and whereas a Nature Coast chapter of the Florida Native Plant Society has over 140 members who participate in activities that benefit the citizens and environment of Pasco County and whereas Pasco County has an incredible wealth of natural areas to showcase Florida's native plants and native plant communities now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Pasco County Florida had said board hereby declares a month of October as Florida native plant month in Pasco County and encourages a community to show their support and join in on the celebration done in resolved in regular session with the quorum present and voting this 23rd day of October 2018 signed by the board move to approve second got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye and this one is really special to me they all know the Starkey family's been a longtime environmentally conscious family and also I get it on the other side because that's my mom standing up there I am really honored to be the one sponsoring this and I'd love you to love

for you all to say some words to the board the president of the Nature Coast chapter and yes we are very happy that you have sponsored that thank you very much commissioner Starkey and thank you all commissioners for supporting native plants in the county of Pasco I'd saw the Planning Commission here I saw all these wonderful people and people are very important in order to make people happy you have to have a pleasant environment and our native plants bring in the birds and the bees and you can sit in your backyard or on your porch and enjoy enjoy nature and we don't need to lose that in Pasco we can reconcile our native plants and nature with development and that's what we would like to do if we can be of service in any way and we are doing it the we have a demonstration garden at the newly named Heritage Park in Land O'Lakes where we have planted native plants we have a kiosk with information at the Werner Boise State Park and we continue to work and promote our our vision and our mission which is preserving conserving and restoring native plants and native plant communities of Florida thank you thank you do the either one of you want to speak well you know you give me an idea here and I think you know we have a lot of buildings and a lot of facilities around the county and it I think it would be very smart if we made sure that we had native plants at our buildings and identified them as native plants the other benefits of native plants are they take a lot less water and they don't have the insect problem that in fungus and whatever problems come with plants that aren't aren't local so I'd love to see us get on some kind of plan where we also use native plants so little thing on that I know there is I don't know if it's an ordinance or law or whatever that says that certain number of native plants have to be put in every development but forethought and choosing the plants are important because a live oak tree on the side of the road is not going to do the trick so ask us anything you want when it comes to planning well you should meet with our staff they should get together with you and you can all work together and our planners are sitting over there all right let's go down and take a photo with our Native Plant Society [Laughter] [Music] [Applause] [Music] now we will proceed with the public hearing agenda starting with p1 ordinances madam clerk do we have proof of Adam p1 we do Tampa Bay time September 26 2018 good afternoon commissioners Denise Hernandez Planning and Development the first item item p1 is PDD 1900 7 this is the first reading on this item so I will read it by tile an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County land development code providing for amendments to section 406 point 1 signs providing for applicability repealer severability inclusion into the land

development code and effect and an effective date as you may recall the Board of County Commissioners directed Planning and Development Department to amend the the dwell time for digital science for regional attracters and that to all time was amended from 60 seconds to 15 seconds this went before the local planning agency on October 11 and local planning agency found the proposed ordinance consistent with a comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the Board of County Commissioners again this is just the first reading on this item this is set for adoption on November 27th at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City I'm here for any questions shall you have any questions can you remind me who sits on the LPA now local planning agency the folks that sit on the local planning agency now are the chairman is Chuck gray the vice chairman is Kevin Rothman the Planning Commission is the help is the local planning agency yes I apologize not the DRC anymore right I knew it as the Planning Commission but I didn't know what the help but they there would be where there had as the local planning agency so I was reading your notes here and it says that someone was complaining because the sixty second minimum interval of change between each interval message or the dwell time was not enough time for the drivers to read the messages so therefore we're going from 60 seconds to 15 seconds so now the drivers can watch the sign change change change is that a safe idea well so in this case the dry the first driver will see one sign and then the following driver will see a different one it's not I don't believe in this case they're gonna see multiple messages it's just that the the 60 seconds if they have a loop of five signs for example or four signs that means that five six seven drivers gonna pass and they're just gonna see it there's only gonna be one sign shown so each driver are still gonna just see one sign yes at that at that rate of speed they're only gonna see one so what does it matter if we change it from sixty because the the sign is not looping sufficiently enough to show other the the point is they have a lot of different they have a lot of different events at this locate you know regional attractors by nature would have a lot of different events so what will happen is that for 60 seconds there's gonna be one static and they may they may be looping five different signs but there's only going to be one available for one minute human can I help with on what I was going to help you with this one the thought was there's a better chance next time they drive by they're gonna see that they're gonna see the other correct right right they're turning or as they're making a different movement onto the property you know I've done a lot of research on signs I'm part of scenic Florida and I changing signs like that or I'm just not a fan of them I think they're dangerous for the public and everything I've read says says they they they take your eye off the road and you're trying to see what's coming next

so I'm not a big fan of it but I know I'm the lone duck here well I do want to mention that the the code does not allow any type of message sequencing or any type of animation right no no not whatsoever okay and there's no sequencing so like the following message would not have anything to do with the first message so it's not saying are you hungry why don't you eat some burgers you know it's not sequencing through them not going through the message well what you're gonna find you're gonna see you'll see one sign when you come by and then an afternoon if you come by another you may see a totally different sign when you come by and they have four or five events during a week or two then they want to make sure they advertise know some of the fare yeah from the ferry right so is there no approval today it says the public hearings your public your the comment do we have anyone signed up for have no one signed up for is there anyone here in audience didn't sign up they would like to speak to this item yep not so this is set for adoption on November 27th 1:30 in Dade City all right okay all right next item VP - okay we do have proof Tampa Bay Times September 26 2008 een okay commissioners Denise Hernandez again planning and development this is land development code amendment 34 we've had 33 amendments to the land development code since the restated land development code in 2012 this year we're actually bringing forward two sets of minor fixes or glitches glitch amendments through I am going to read it by title so bear with me there's 45 different sections and subsections including the the actual appendix say that are being changed or modified so and I'll just go over a few highlights on that so this is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amend the amending the Pasco County Land Development Code section 303 point 6 applications submitted on acceptance section 303 point 7 application review section 304 point to public notice section 305 neighborhood meeting section 402 point to Sonia Minh an MPD master plan unit development district section 403 point 1 preliminary development plan residential section for three points to preliminary development plan non-residential section 403 point 3 site plan section 404 point to land excavation operating permits section 404 point three mining section 404 point four construction demolition debris disposal facilities section 404 point six yard trash disposal facilities section 406 point six model centers repealing section in its entirety ariza and reserving section section 503 AC agricultural district section 523 po1 professional office district section 524 po2 professional office district section 525 c1 commercial neighborhood commercial district section 526 c2 general commercial district section 527 c3 commercial light manufacturing district section 528i 1 light industrial park district section 529 i2 general industrial park district section 530 supplemental regulations section 604

Northeast Pasco rule protection overlay district section 700 subdivision and planning standards section 802 tree preservation and replacement section 905 point 2 landscaping and buffering section 9 o 7.1 on street parking Appendix A definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer providing for severability inclusion into the land development code and effective dates so these this set of glich amendments or minor fixes were brought to the be horizontal round table and the land development code interested party parties meeting on June 20th and July 18th and also on September 19th on October 11th the local planning agency found the amendments consistent with the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan and recommended approval to the board I'm gonna go over some highlights because again there's 45 different sections subsections and appendix a definitions that are being modified there's a lot of scriveners errors in here that were work that we've worked on there are a lot of unintended consequences from former land development code amendments one of the big things that we're doing here is one of your tier two priorities was that you asked us to look at ways to eliminate bottle clubs and that's being done in this amendment land development code amendment 34 so that fulfills that tier 2 board priority for that something else that we're doing in this amendment to the land development code is we're creating a section that basically allows for non non improvement plots so for example I don't know if you recall in Commissioner Mariano you may recall boatyard Drive where that under the regular code they would have had to have gone through an engineer to do the planning to do the preliminary site at the preliminary development plan rather so this section now with the non improvement Platts would allow a division up to ten to create up to a total of ten Lots so as long as you don't need any infrastructure it could be submitted by a professional survey or other licensed professional it doesn't have to be an actual engineer which is they still have to go through the planning process but it doesn't have that additional cost associated with it and that would assist a situation like boatyard Drive mr. Figg had even if you recall I'm here for any questions you may have again this is also the first reading on the on the ordinance and this is actually set for adoption December 11th at 1:30 in Dade City I don't have anyone signed up for a public hearing on this item but is there anyone here that has not signed that would like to speak I've had discussions I think with you and Joaquin and some of the other staff about problems with the landscape code okay and the crepe myrtles and that we have people who put crepe myrtles in and then keep them cut all year long like they're trimming them and in effect it means they don't have the trees that they're required so I'd like to add while we're doing this I think it's appropriate time to amend our

landscaping code that crepe myrtles not be counted as the landscaping trees the trees that are that are fulfill the landscape requirement is that in nine oh five point two yes okay as you can you can only amend what you've advertised it makes it a lot easier for our County staff to have to go around and fight everyone who's improperly trimming their crape myrtles it's a big job it might also be an 8 it's somewhere in 800 it's an 802 okay okay all right question if we do this amendment that doesn't make the people that have them enough to take them out all right we move on to p3 we do have proof Tampa Bay Times August 31st 2018 good afternoon Amy hilar with planning and development height mp3 is the adoption hearing for PDD 18-1 397 a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Shady hills car lot I will now read the ordinance into record an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan future land use map map 2-15 and sheet 5 providing for a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment from res 1 residential 1 dwelling unit per gross per gross acre to calm commercial on 0.66 acres more or less of real property located on the east side of shady Hills Road approximately 553 feet south of bosley Drive providing for severability and an effective date the subject site is located on in the North Market area on the east side of shady Hills Road approximately 553 feet south of Bosley Drive the small scale comprehensive plan amendment proposes a future land-use change from res 1 residential one dwelling unit per gross acre to calm commercial on point six six acres to allow for the sale of used automobiles within AC 2 general commercial district in accordance with policy flew one point six point one commercial development the inset shows the existing future land use and this inset shows we proposed future land use the surrounding zoning character is characterized by commercial with surrounding uses being towing tire shops auto repair and a post office the comprehensive plan amendment is consistent with policy flew one point six point one F which enables commercial infill development of five acres or less within areas not designated as com the subject site is also established as a seat use district prior to the adoption of the Comprehensive Plan and is not cannot considered a conflict zone because of this policy however the proposed land use to allow for automobile sales within a c2 district shall be permitted only if the property is designated as com pursuant to section 526 point two point eight point three of the land development code therefore since the site is currently existing as a car lot and is consistent with the surrounding uses within the area staff recommends the Board of County Commissioners find the comprehensive plan amendment consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and recommend approval of the proposed amendment I'm happy to answer any questions if you have any mr. Arky so on this gentleman

will have to comply with our ordinance that covers auto sales and boat sales with the landscaping the setbacks the lighting and all those things that are required with that ordinance do as far as I'm concerned I think because of it being point 66 acres that they don't they're do not have to abide by that setback from where does it say they get to be exempt from our ordinary Victoria knows pizzas with planning development so based on staff review there are certain size car lot car dealerships that would apply to the ordinance that you're referring to in this particular case because the size of the lot itself it's the requirements for the large buffers and the landscaping does not do not apply to the auto dealership in this case okay so we're at comprehensive plan here were not at actual site development but AC to a car lot in situ would have to have the same buffer that that commissioner Sharkey is referring to regardless of the size of a lot I do believe they can come in for an alternative standard we've I've seen that on smaller loss where we can't we had them put in a vinyl fence that was opaque and then we they had to buffer it with landscaping but they do have to comply at I don't know I'm dealing with these I've never seen it'll say anywhere where they're exempt we'll follow up with current planning to make sure that the appropriate buffer yards are applied I'm not saying that they're entirely exempt from that ordinance it's just the application may be different but we can follow up with chrome planning to ensure that the buffer yards are accurate on that site exam what we're approving today no your all your plan of proving today is a is the change of the future land-use to calm the the issue that that needs to be looked at is will they be able to do a dealership after that after they've gone through this or a used-car lot will they be able to do it on point six six acres depending on the shape it'll a lot and we raised this issue very early on in the process as well so we'll follow through with current plan emotion well wait a minute do we have any money here to speak to this item I don't believe we do I don't have em I signed an applicant it's apt in here would you like to speak name an address for the record my name is James Johnson my physical address is 1 5 8 2 4 piece Boulevard Spring Hill 3 4 6 more time this property has been a car lot since the early 80s and it's always mad at Carla so there's already 6 foot high chain-link fence all around gates cross fenced in the center with the office and such so they may be exempt from the ordinates depending on [Laughter] you you need to take public comment and then if you've got if that's there was no one else for public comment so he's a applicant so he was again so if you're if you've said everything you need to say to the board that's that's fine and and then they can take they can ask for public comment and then they can you go to emotion so unless you've got questions for the applicant ID and where

he's got something to say to you I think he's anyone else to speak to this Adam see no one more people you got a motion in a second all those in favor say aye that was is that a roll call I don't know yes that is a roll call ok so if you don't mind I'm District two Commissioner Moore district 3 Commissioner Starkey yeah ok yeah district 4 chairman Wells district 5 Commissioner Mariano I district 1 vice-chairman Commissioner Oakley I motion passes okay thank you okay we move on to p4 that we have proof we do have proof Tampa Bay Times August 24th 2018 good afternoon planning and development Denise Denise her name is planning and development says PDD 1970 357 the name of James a Winkleman and Adrianna Briggs this item is actually being withdrawn by the applicants so there's no further action required on this item okay mr. chairman this would probably be a good time for the clerk to swear in and for me to do the rezoning procedures I can go ahead and do the rezoning procedures first okay there are two rezoning agendas regular in consent staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staffer Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staffer Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are quasi judicial public hearings the law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria for rezoning found within the board's land development code okay madam clerk would you say if you plan to speak to any of these items if you could stand and raise your right hand to get sworn in okay thank you do you swear or affirm the testimony the testimony you are about to give us a truth so help you God okay thank you very much we do have proof for pe5 Tampa Bay Times September 28th 2018 good afternoon commissioners Denise Hernandez Planning and Development p5 is PDD 19 not PDD 19 CEO 1 and it is Patricia MacLeod and others and this is a conditional use for an amusement park in the AC district the

applicant has requested a continuance of February 5th 2019 BCC meeting at 1:30 in Dade City to continue time certain p6 we do have proof Tampa Bay Times September 14 2018 p6 SPD 1900 89 and it's a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment CPA L 1809 and half in the name of Hagman the applicant has requested a continuance to December 11 2018 BCC meeting at 1:30 in date city to continue time certain emotional second motion past 7 we do our proof Tampa Bay Times August 18th 2018 item p7 is PDD 19 - 159 and it's a comprehensive plan text amendment CP al 1811 and this is a comprehensive plan to eliminate the development review committee references in the in the comprehensive plan and this item staff is requesting a continuance of November 27 2018 BCC meeting at 1:30 in Dade City to continue time certain thank you got a motion a second continue all those papers say aye aye motion passed you know if it's okay with you I'll go through all the rezoning publications p 8 through P 16 p8 Tampa Bay Times September 14 2018 with affidavit of certified mailings p 9 Tampa Bay Times August 10th 2018 with affidavit certify of certified mailings and site postings P 10 Tampa Bay Times September 28th 2018 P 11 Tampa Bay Times September 28th 2018 with affidavit of certified mailings and site postings and p12 p13 P 14 P 15 and P 16 all were advertised on September 28 2018 item p 8 is PDD 1873 45 and it's a zoning amendment in the name of u-haul Odessa and PUD it's for a mmpu d request it's a rezoning request from I to industrial general industrial park district to an MP UD master plan unit development district to allow a hundred and ten thousand square feet of self storage facility and a maximum of three thousand square feet of retail on approximately nine point three five acres this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with condition with conditions from Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission on eight its is there anybody here that is in opposition to P 8 that wants to speak otherwise leave it on consent okay pH is consent item p 9 SPD d 1970 303 it's in the name of South Branch ranch crossings and PUD and CJ investment company so rezoning from an AC agricultural district to an MP UD master plan unit development district to allow two hundred twenty five thousand square feet of retail in three hundred twenty thousand square feet of office on approximately twenty eight point four acres and this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions from Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission is there anybody in the audience who wishes to speak to this to to oppose this item speak in opposition to the item whether to come see sieving seeing no one leave it on consent item p10 is PDD 1973 20 and it's a zoning amendment Morgan Road Park of Commerce LLC it's a from an r2 low density residential district and see to general commercial district with a specific use to a c2

general commercial district and this comes through with a recommendation of approval from Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission is there anyone here to speak to piece against p10 seeing no one move it to consent leave it on for item p11 is PDD 1973 54 it's a zoning amendment in the name of Ben Jacque ujin it's a rezoning from a c1 general commercial neighborhood commercial district rather to a c2 general commercial district and this comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission is anyone here to speak against P 11 seeing no one leave it on consent item p12 is PDD 1973 55 this is a zoning amendment in the name names of David a and Phyllis Carroll and others and it's a rezoning from an AR agricultural residential and c1 neighborhood commercial districts - when - a c2 general commercial district comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission is there anyone here to speak against p12 seeing no one leave it on consent item P 13 as PDD 19-7 356 it's a zoning amendment in the name of planned pethood Wesley Chapel LLC it's a change from AC agricultural and c1 neighborhood neighborhood commercial to a c2 general commercial district comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission anyone here to speak to p13 I'm against he's nursing saying no one leaving on consent item P 14 is PDD 19 - CU o - its conditional use in the name of pure and tsukai and others is for multiple family dwelling units in a c2 general commercial district this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission I'm here to speak against P 14 seeing no one leave it open say item P 15 we will I can read it into record but there's an added condition on that item is that is that okay or should I remove remove it from consent in order to add the condition you can add the condition and if the board that's that's fine okay so I thank you item P 15 as p DD 19 - c uo 4 and the name of hudson storage LLC it's for multiple family dwelling units in a c2 general commercial district the added condition and the applicant is here to state whether she is in agreement with it is to add a condition that states multiple family dwelling units shall be age restricted in accordance with section 1302 point 1 point d of the land development code and this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions from Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission and of course with this new added condition is anyone here to speak against B 15 is that she's the half of gotta pull it off again soon okay well 15 off consent you'll get an opportunity in a few minutes okay now at the end of your your consent agenda cuz

the other ones regular low sever Tameka said I was second a motion to approve the remaining consent items in a second all those who ever say aye aye motion passed and will come back to be 15 yes let me just queue up thank you excellent so stated item P 15 is a conditional use for multiple family dwelling units in a situ district the parcel is located in Northwest Pasco County at the southwest corner of the intersection of I apologize at the north at the southeast corner of the intersection of Sea Ranch Drive and Del Mar Drive and extends easterly until us 19 the conditional use that's being requested today is for currently the parcel is Zone C to general commercial district the applicant is requesting a conditional use for multiple family dwelling units and as stated in the added condition the multiple family dwelling units will be age restricted in accordance with the land development code 1302 point one point D the parcels located in the West Market area and it's in an urban service area here's a location of the parcel surrounding future land uses the side axis this is the conceptual site plan for the hundred and twenty units on the parcel conceptual only and this item went to the Planning Commission it comes to you with a recommendation of approval with that added condition from the Planning and Development Department staff the Planning Commission move to approve the item as well and I'm here with any questions I believe the applicant is here as well those are anyone here to speak to be pitching African speak first good afternoon Barbara Wilhite 2523 permit place in port to Florida three four six five five four the applicant we are here to answer any questions there was no public comment at the Planning Commission so I'd like to just defer and then be able to respond to any concerns and we are an agreement with the added condition which will only allow for those to be senior apartments at this location the recommended and met with the applicant yesterday afternoon and we tend to talk about and I talked about this condition that is being added and there was an ex parte forum submitted into the record earlier today okay to acknowledge that right okay so okay so anyone here to speak against us I don't it's this is anybody wants to speak on this item it's their opportunity to be heard good before right yeah please state your name and address for the record I live at 68 twelve curlew Lane and why me and you have been sworn sir or you have been sworn in by the clerk when when she asked you to be sworn in I don't think so okay if you want to do that we can do that right now have the other two okay if you raise your right hand do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth so help you God yes I do great thank you questions I have concerning just development is the fact that we have not been notified of any any upgrades to the area there is a pumping station a lift

station about approximately 200 feet from where this proposed site is going to be there's been enough you're looking at adding I believe the paperwork I've seen set a hundred and eight units okay you're basically doubling the capacity on that lift station I haven't seen any plans as far as access to this is the access going to be from 19 is it going to be from Delmar any type of barriers there's really been very little information put out to the residence you know and how is the infrastructure being addressed so yes he asked the questions so this little nose finish for statement and its staff began when you tell me fundamental question okay thank you 16:13 my name is Debra Ann garrison I would live on Corolla Lane our thing was more or less the same thing the dumping station water-wise aureate right now there are two to uh ponds up there that are taking water from nineteen now where are they transferring that water and what is from our development out over the across the street of Delmar there's actually a big ditch for retaining water that comes off of nineteen now you're adding more parking lot area more building area that this water has to go around that's an issue for all of us and all those little roadways of where's this water going are we gonna be flooded out even more I'm sure the applicant can answer your questions and staff officer okay you don't have anything say okay [Laughter] well hide again for the applicant we are at the rezoning stage and that is why they don't have answers to their questions there's no development plans that have been submitted for this property the request is to add the ability to have multifamily in this case senior apartment use to a parcel it's already approved for the full range of c2 uses but rest assured when the develop plans come forward we'll have to address the things of access buffers water sewer drainage it's just at this stage we're not at that stage yet so I'm right okay move to approve second and emotion approve and with second all those in favor say aye mr. doesn't the noted condition ed the following item P 16 is he didn't PDD 19 cuo 5 and this is also a conditional use for multiple family dwellings in a c2 general commercial district they're proposing approximately 144 multiple family multiple family apartment complex on the front which with 144 units the parcel has a future land use designation of retail office residential ror it's within the West Market area and the urban service area and the at the site is composed of 12.2 acres it's located on the southwest corner of the intersection of State Road 50 to a nature trail and it extends boss westerly to LA Madera Boulevard in the Northwest Market area sorry in the West Market area not north this is the access to the site it's being shown off of Lam Adara and nature trail there's also an additional condition that on this on the site that the applicant has agreed to and with the it's an addition additional condition from the applicant it was not

proposed to the Planning Commission this does come to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions but we're proposing to add this additional condition which is access to nature trail shall be limited to emergency access only which shall be gated unless otherwise required by the county of pro at the time of preliminary site plan approval I know that there are several folks that have signed up to speak on this item so we'll we'll hear their questions and provide answers if as we get the questions okay mr. chairman one question for staff Denise what was on the site before it was cleared out years ago residential treatment and care facility which consisted of a it was like a retirement home and it appears to have been demolished according to our building permits that I've been able to research in 2007 that's what was on there before okay and just for the record I didn't meet with the applicant yesterday and we did talk about the access not being allowed on nature trail just going off to the other side except for the emergency and there is an ex parte forum to that effect as well with the case office well done Bob all right Barbara Wilhite 2523 permit place and in Part C Florida three four six five five four the applicant and yes I've been sworn we have added now two conditions one is an enhanced buffer requirement that we added at Planning Commission to increase the buffer requirement along the south side although the south side the majority of it other than one residential lot is already multifamily we also have now you know listening to the residents of Bear Creek it's the end talking to folks outside of this meeting it seems like their major concern is additional traffic on nature trail this property fronts on Nature Trail State Route 52 and la Madeira so the condition that we've worked out with the access management staff and your your zoning staff is to restrict the access to any access to nature trail to just be emergency gated access only your emergency services department has the code to that it doesn't become we always get that question well that actually become something of an access just because but no the answer is not it's gated so we've added that condition unless of course the staff requires something else where the code requires something else the it's residential residential multifamily is consistent and compatible with single-family to the south is already multifamily to the to the West is multifamily c2 to the east to c2 multifamily but to the southeast is the Bear Creek subdivision again we're at zoning level I think you might hear comments that are more site plan would be glad to discuss those when a site plan comes forward but it's the same the same proposal here to add multifamily uses it is approved for the full range of commercial uses it's an RoR land use a pretty intense and dense land use to begin with so it's consistent the request is consistent with the plan also consistent with the intensity of the

commercial that's there today a fast-food restaurant could go in with no particular but no zoning approvals a shopping center can go in the multifamily use will have less impervious surface less parking so the use is actually less intense than it would be for the full range of commercial uses that are approved today and I'll be back for any questions or follow-up question so the major concerns you've heard from the residents through any meetings was access access and offering buffering wildlife and then well we'll let them speak for themselves bad okay and then all people always seem to have concern about multifamily uses and crime and all those things but I think we have those challenges no matter what the uses so the name here says RV assisted living so it's possible this may be an assisted living site or it might be something else so that property is held in the name of ARV assisted living it's just the deed is in that name so when the staff brings forward an application they use the however the deeds and the name of but assisted living is an approved see to use so it's under the range of situ uses today the ownership is is the prior the deed is in the prior ALS ownership still is what is why that's coming up is that corporation that's the name yeah the name they titled that property and was a RVs just a living because the reason I bring that up is because if it's an assistant if it does if it is an assisted living facility that's very little traffic wouldn't be here today and right now that's true that's true and so I hate to restrict the relative to multifamily to see to your the c2 uses are much more intensely a much more traffic generator all the fast food restaurant would have a lot more traffic than multifamily so traffic generation this is not a use that we're adding that will increase transportation impact but access management will be reviewed at time a site plan and and staff reviews that carefully well and and I appreciate you willing to accommodate the a concern about more traffic but I would sometimes we do things to accommodate that make it not a good plan and my planners would tell you we have a lot of you know spite stops and we we've made some decisions that aren't good for for traffic circulation so I wonder if we might consider that if it is an assisted living facility we've definitely let them have access to nature because allowed under c2 so it's not covered by those conditional use so this conditional use would apply to a multi-family apartment project that would have more traffic right assisted living that the condition that staff read in would not apply because that's already to see to use okay okay yeah just for a little background - as far as the access management no on the east side is where nature trail is where Bear Creek subdivision is this parcel comes between that align Madera were inches into timber Oaks into timber Oaks there's a bunch of apartment buildings complexes going down there that have also restricted the excess

with a can't go across but they can still this will actually give them at LAN Madeira is there's a light there there's also a little shopping center that's there too which would be more applicable I think on sting Road 52 that kind of a right turn in and a right turn out which gives them good access as well I just think any time though we're able to whether it be assisted living facility apartment complex or a retail establishment keep that traffic off residents or roads it's a good thing yeah that's my opinion though I mean to last week I understand that people impede on a residential development I think that's a good thing 52 is a major road that's where people's ingress and egress should be not through a residential neighborhood and and I would tell you that the plan I think the planners would say that the more options you have the better dispersed the traffic is the less traffic jams you have so I don't know the area so I'm not gonna sleep - okay mr. chairman if I may ms well he did make a comment about that there was an enhanced buffer approved by the Planning Commission there was some conversation about an enhanced buffer but the Planning Commission did not motion to amend the conditions to add the enhanced buffer so I just wanted to clarify that okay for the record right so what we need to add that so we do have seven people signed add those and I'll read in the order that you signed in we have if you want to line up I'll read the first three Danny Halterman David Myer and Timothy oh I'm sorry that's P 17 hold on I'm sorry back to P 16 I'm sorry here's next issue but so you know your order all right sorry about that Carrie Joseph's Andy Mullins garvik Connors you three could line up we do have seven all together please state your name and address and also that you've been sworn Thank You commissioners my name is sandy Mullins and I live at eight six one one Gandy Lane in Bear Creek okay okay how's this yummy okay my name is sandy Mullins and I'd like to just you it's always good to be able to see what you're talking about so I want to miss Mullins if you can speak into the microphone and I need your name and address surely not you've been sandy Mullins mu ll I&S and were you sworn earlier yes I was excellent thank you and address my address is eight six one one Gandy Lane support okay Ritchie okay um I sent all of you with the exception of MS O'Neal to documents in the email did you all get them on Friday I emailed them to you is that a no it's gonna state your statement thinking answer questions yeah okay we could save a lot of time the printers okay um here we go the property that we're talking about is the main entrance to into our home housing development we were built around a bird sanctuary in the 1980s and there are 640 horse midsize homes and we're settled a community so being settled we care very much about new plans that come into

effect now from 2000 from 1998 into 2007 there was an assisted living facility it was a wonderful place and everybody got along there was single storey buildings I know that the applicant says that there's no no buildings and no plans on on hand now but that's not necessarily so she just she's representing the landowner they want to sell the land and in order to sell the land they have to get the zoning changed and the developer is a man by the name of Jim dial with new visions community and he has a partner over in Tampa I've spoken with him we've had email communication with him and he wants to build somewhere between 120 and a hundred and forty four five five three-story buildings with a pool a rental office and a cub house it's going to be low income and I don't want to I have no problem with low income but if you put 444 multiple story buildings in our entrance you will totally destroy our character of our neighborhood we're called Bear Creek we are on nature trail our streets are called barefoot Paul Huntsman and those things oh that can't be my time you got one more minute that's what we went to the County Commission to the Planning Commission and we got three minutes you've got to get here okay I'll take it really fast and um and I hate that this is what our how our government works maybe that's what's wrong with people today the thing is is that we don't want those buildings coming in we would like them to build 50 or 60 single-story buildings we have them we have peacocks that walk down our street we have Osprey we have the most wonderful animals and bird sanctuary you've ever seen I talked with Lakeland the office of the Florida Wildlife we are gonna lose our songbirds the other birds will start looking for other sanctuary we will have an increased incidence of what they call bird strike and that's birds flying against the buildings and yes there are other apartments but the one that Hudson Ridge is located oh come on let me just finish this thank you okay [Laughter] it's located between shopping strips there are no homes okay we're a real residential area but you know that because you guys I read in the paper you want to spend more money fixing up West Pasco because we were the ones that started Pasco County and you need to look at us after East East Pasco there's been development along 52 several new businesses have opened so we want a business and the traffic will be if you have a hundred and forty four low income apartments with two parking spots each you know that I would rent there and I would have a roommate or two we'd have at least two cars and you're going to cut through we have we have nature trailers like cut through over to schraeder it's a big accident area mr. chair thank you okay I'm sorry what I sent you ma'am your time's up I'm sorry the next person on the list is what we have Kerry Joseph and Garrett Connors it's Kerry Joseph here that's okay go ahead come on come on up Kerry your name and address and then a few bins one yes

okay my name is Kerry Joseph featherbed 85 21 honeybee Lane sorry little nervous as far as this have you been sworn I have okay thank you as far as well this HUD housing going in and stuff and 144 apartments per that square but I think you should not compact it so much and maybe bring it down to a hundred and as far as a wall I definitely would push through a cement wall at least eight foot high and not a chain-link fence if we have pigs in there or tear it down later on for them to destroy it and then we just need trees shrubbery and native plants its mr. key oh go and as far as she's talking about going on to nature's our way it's to property classifications so I think we should have the wall and then just the firetruck should have the code for at that gate and you keep it locked at all times because people can hang out out of round the wall and we're already finding drug needles and stuff and we just need more lights and something better something in plan for better for our development if it's going to go through okay okay thank you thank you very much next please name and just the record please no just keep going sorry he can hear through all the whole building Cathy sweet don't let my name fool you I live at 85 26 honeybee Lane I inherited the home when my uncle had it built in 1981 he's been passed away for seven years he'd be very upset over this the site upon which the proposed used is located has suitable drainage that's all we're asking access ingress and egress on-site parking loading areas refuge collection and adequate utilities available to service the site again we need lighting when you come into Bear Creek dumpsters and service areas or sources of irritation particularly if they contain food waste the best solution is to require that they be located internally within the building or at least be set back from the adjacent property line and screened roof dumpster enclosures should be required for the present for the prep for the for the residents I'm sorry president for the residents it's currently unknown if there is suitable water drainage because we really don't have a lot of sewer drainage and Bear Creek I mean if you ever go in there you'll see that ourselves we have that issue water drainage able to adequately reduce or main maintain the same flow that is currently shared from under from now underdeveloped property the site upon which the conditional use is to be located has or will have screaming and buffering sufficient to prevent interference with the enjoyment of surrounding properties Bear Creek residents request a decorative four-foot 12-foot masonary fencing wall for nature trail across from the back of the proposed complex a separation is required under land development code because there are two different zoning classes fabric-covered fencing is unacceptable we've referred the commission to the fencing that was

required of the developers in Trinity o providing an interior wall of fire rated masonary twelve foot tall with no openings may seem like an intrusion but considered that many rear yard setbacks are poorly maintained areas used for waste stations service and unsightly long term storage a masonry wall provides privacy and a proper property edge along which the adjacent resident can't landscape in a variety of ways again we talk about the landscaping we asked you for also parking and service areas are enclosed and the new development has fewer site constraints so again we asked for you know trees shrubbery lighting so that it's lit up more Pasco County you know to that area it's a shame that some of those buildings have not been taken down it's a shame that no one has literally asked that these people that own these properties that are vacant and have been vacant for years do not take it down the Blue Dolphin building was demolished what's wrong with the rest of the people that own these buildings why can't they take property down and make it look good thank you again your time I really appreciate thank you for your calmness the remaining people for p16 include Garrett Connors mr. Connors and I'm just so the rest can line up Marilyn Fitzgerald kelly green and David Mane's and anyone else who wants to speak on p16 Garrett Connors will want 409 opossum trail as Port Richey I'm yielding my time to Sandy candle you can't yield your time I cannot you were using foreign position to the this reborn in yes I was yes okay I am an opposition to this project just due to the fact that this is a high density development that they're looking to put in which is not consistent with the area of Bear Creek which is all single-family homes all right there is a rumor and I'm just going to say a rumor that this is to be HUD housing okay which again is not consistent with private families so okay I think that it's the duty of the Commission of your commissioners to assured that you know the quality of life does not diminish I mean your own website says that you're here to enhance our quality of life not diminish it okay and I just don't think this type of density housing is appropriate for this area I thank you for your time I thank you okay we have Marilyn Fitzgerald kelly green and David Maine's or any of them here okay good come on up Kelly thank you hi i'm kelly green 8 7 0 8 wolfed intro have you been sworn I have you have but positive yes yes ok thank you I'm having a panic attack um now they already addressed my concern it was the traffic I do agree with the traffic flow there it will increase by 180 cars there's a cut through there's only one way I'm sorry two ways into our development in so that's it they will definitely take little road to Schrader Road to Nietzsche trail to get in but they've already worked on that I did want to just for you know entering that it will not be a assisted living facility again

I wish it were what we have a problem with this how many apartments they plan to put in it's a new vision communities I believe they are they suggested between 120 to 144 so it's that density that we had a problem with because again that does take away from our wildlife we're very concerned right now in our community you our safety is a priority we our kids do play in the streets our elderly do walk every night our me I walk every night but so where we are worried about that traffic so we do ask that you do not I don't know how to work this basically yes another single-level business that would be great but we do oppose the multi levels thanks guys we have Marilyn Fitzgerald and David Maine signed up okay thank you you're correct Donald I'm sorry Thank You Donald that's right Dave is my brother okay all right and yes I have been sworn in if the county commissioners elected from Italy and usage remains can you give us your address please once I won one six three five nature trail in Bear Creek excellent thank you okay if the county commissioners elect for a minute land-use change despite our requests and protestations the residents of Bear Creek asked that the commissioners impose conditions on the applicant which adequately address the issues of noise traffic fire evacuation safety crime loss of property value loss of birds and other wildlife and the quality of life presently enjoyed by the homeowners of Bear Creek we would ask that they create a tenant law enforcement registry where every ten must register with local law enforcement that they can cross-reference registered of occupants with incarceration records for misdemeanors felonies sex offenders and parolees this this registry will keep our neighborhood safe and crime free by giving the Sheriff's Department the information they need to enforce the zero tolerance policies of federally funded housing authorities I've lived in Bear Creek for better than 20 years and it has I've watched as seemingly a lot of the problems in Pasco County have been pushed west a little road most notably low-income housing and the homeless problem this is resulted in a spike in crime and drug use as well as a depreciation and property values for us homeowners there I am disabled but I every morning I have to set my alarm at five o'clock because my wife is afraid to walk from our front door to the driveway to her car to be able to go to work that's due to the spike in crime and the homeless issue and everything that continuously seems to be pushed west of little Road we've become the rug that all the problems of Pasco are swept under and this is just going to exacerbate that situation thank you thank you anyone else who wants to speak to this item please come forward form a line and go ahead and remember to say your name address and if you Vince won yes I've been sworn my address is eight five one five honeybee Lane right off a nature trail my name is Jeanette Schmidt I've lived

there for 23 years I've watched the traffic comes from a little road onto 50 to numerous speeding through there accidents on nature's trail nobody wants to take possibility they're always hit and run and now you want to put no offense a hug housing up on our corner we've already been distraught from all the problems that County officials have dumped on us we had Amanda Murphy come out and I believe Jack Mariana was supposed to be there for our meeting who didn't show up amber came out she didn't know a darn thing about our neighborhood you tried to get us to pay for our own roads even though the county roads and she said no there are roads private roads well if there are roads private roads we want a fence put up on both ends you're also infringing on the senior citizens that are in timber Oaks which of course is one of my mom and her neighbors and nobody in that area even knew about what was going on and now you're going to take all the traffic that already comes from Brown development and brown acres and comes through Ponderosa out through la Madeira and now you're going to put more apartments up there and drag more people through their subdivision wrecking their privacy and peace also I highly disagree I prefer a business to be put there at least we have something besides housing you're taking down the mall to put in apartments you took down the flea market we have nothing nothing I have an empty gas station on one corner and and insisted living on the other and now you're going to just destroy our privacy and our peace and our housing that was built for people working people in this county thank you thank you Dale Thompson I live on Hood you to drive in timber oak subdivision I guess I'm I just want to say that first of all I forgot about this meeting and I was literally dragged out of the car as I was pulling in I am very disappointed with the people of timber Oaks because there's like five of us here and everybody's been complaining and complaining and complaining ever since they found out about this my problem right now is I don't mind speaking for against anything but we don't even know for sure one minute we're hearing that it's low-income housing the next minute we're hearing that it will be with children then we're hearing that it's going to be an adult then we're hearing assisted living I don't really feel I have the right to even comment until I know for sure what I'm commenting on but Jack you know Dale Thompson here Facebook if there's one thing I complain about is the traffic and how unsafe it is on Ponderosa and you're talking if you talk of low-income housing with children we're talking about way more school buses and everything else going through there we're still worrying about what's gonna happen with the golf course that we gave up I hope we don't have to have low-income housing and I may wind up in one someday but I still wouldn't want it to be there to mess up bear creek and timber Oaks we saw the beach that was going up we

thought oh my gosh this side of Pasco is finally going to get fixed up everything's gonna be nice it's not all gonna go out by Wesley Chapel now I'm getting a little concerned because it seems like everything might be going back downhill thank you the course has been asked quite a few times and I have a feeling it's going to come up again we get to the microphone I got you the HUD housing keeps being brought up I have not heard that in any presentations or my staff so can somebody from before more people ask the same question it's not an audience question it's a staff question so can you hear me refer that Commissioner more whether or not sort of housing it is is not really before you it this is I know it's not some more but multifamily project and I understand but it's a land use decision that's what you have to that's what you have to consider and I can appreciate that but I but I want to know [Applause] do not clap here that's inappropriate here in the Commission and mr. chairman yes this is a conditional use as well so we have more flexibility with this determination than most of those zonings we do get it was not presented to us as HUD housing it was just simply a conditional use for multiple family dwelling units in a c2 district perhaps the applicant may be able to answer that question because some of the ones we've approved recently that came before us with the approvals I think it's appropriate to inform the applicant before before Moke more peepers well right we can't answer the question I can't answer the question our application is for multifamily a conditional use for multifamily there is a contract on the property for one potential use of that contract closes and that contract purchaser does not propose HUD housing okay ma'am you can't tell from the audience next gentleman okay yeah we've already exhausted the list so anybody else who wants to state your name address and then if you've been sworn I've necessary noise right Ian do you do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth so help you God I do thank you okay human add recipes it's a louisvil rellis I live in 888 twelve honeycomb drive you spelled that last name please yes are you a Elias thank you I'm not gonna rehash what every what's already been stated quite eloquently and I I appreciate that all I wanted to make a statement told I was although I wasn't planning on saying it is as a resident there I am concerned with any influx of trash think that any potential apartment place irrespective of what type it is is gonna bring to the community my original concern was and it hopefully was it'll get clarified was if it is a low-income HUD type housing with all due respect I tend to see that a lot of that will bring a lot of decrease in property value so my only major concern besides crime rising and traffic is the potential for any one of our air creeks or any community close by that the potential of loss of revenue from your

homes is my major concern and that's I just wanted to go on the record saying that Thank You next please state your name and address for the record and their pupils my name is Patricia Morrow I live in timber Oaks at 82 15 I have been sworn in okay thank you I didn't know about this meeting until just recently my board doesn't know anything about this project that supposedly mentions la Madera over here and I'd like to know what la madeira has to do with the coming and going of the traffic in the supposedly income housing that they're putting up anybody have an answer staff we into that question which answer that okay I just wanted to state that there's a condition on record that access that the access to the property is going to be from lumidee or the access will be from La Madera and potentially State Route 52 the restrict the restriction on the access is from nature trail limited to emergency access only however all these things will be looked at at the time of site plan access management analysis accessing the property that will all be looked at at the time of the preliminary site plan preliminary development plan for the property which is not before you today okay I'd like to know why it's not before us today if it's mentioned over here and my development knows absolutely nothing about it because this is a conditional use hearing ma'am okay Enzo and that's and so you're not at site plan that's why it's not before you today okay when will it be before us it so that's an administrative approval so the board has is a public hearing on a conditional use that's what's before them today that's not the site plan the site plan will that later be approved administrative Levi planning staff if it if it meets the code that's the way the planning process works and how do I find out about all of this because where I live nobody knows anything about it but they're talking about bringing traffic into my development we're retirement development in there we don't need that kind of traffic coming through there we have a light there if you're gonna put this housing up there and you have no light to your access where you're gonna put this housing does that mean everybody's coming through my development to come to the light to get out on to 50 - mr. chairman you can't put it as a light there it's only a couple of feet away mr. chairman she's making a lot of great points let me ask a question to the county attorney I know when we have these developments that are coming in generally speaking will of public hearings that neighborhood associations clearly Bear Creek is one and timber Oaks coming out for the first time because I hadn't heard any from timber Oaks either because we don't know anything about and I want to address that right now for you these are associations that when we have a meeting they show up I'm wondering is it part of our protocol we actually do have neighborhood meetings when we're having something like this come forward you'd have to ask the Planning Director

what the current policy is I'm trying to I'm trying to get your question answered okay okay a little bit to get there but just hang on if you would Victoria's piece was playing and development my defer to Denise so so generally and I can walk up [Applause] generally unconditional uses unless they're in certain types of areas like the rural areas a neighborhood meeting is not required however the this could this can actually be condition that the applicant hold a neighborhood meeting before the preliminary site plan is submitted for the for the for the item but under the land development code regularly just a conditional use for multifamily would not require a neighborhood meeting but when they do the same plan with them a neighborhood meeting be provided at that time that we can require that yes and that's when they'd be notified and everybody well there will be neighborhood notice 30 days prior to the the or 30 days from the time that the preliminary development plan is approved however a condition can be added to this conditional use that the applicant hold the neighborhood meeting or the applicant can actually come up and tell you that she will hold a neighborhood meeting so Bear Creek and timber Oaks they will be part of the group that would be notified when this we can specifically request and the person who just spoke she can also give me her specific address and we could put her on the list for a notification we've done that before all right okay I think and also to clarify the notice requirements in the code you do have to notice the Association itself for the notice requirements of the code require a 500-foot from the project boundary okay okay if this if this was to take a move forward today and it goes back before we have a public meeting with the residents does it come back before the Commission again no I'm not comfortable with that you know so site plans are administrator I apologize that their administrative Lea privileged or more thank you so we put two is unconditional use all the time right just like there's conditions now so there was conditions offered of no access on what road again it was nature trail limited to emergency access only and it's going to be gate okay so now we're we're hearing about la meridian Madeira thank you yeah like Madeira Beach Madeira okay yeah yeah well la m'dear okay phonetically it sounds sounds right in la Madeira what other we had another concern about answering the question of the potential for HUD housing too so there's a two possible conditions what is HUD housing like what and what way or you what do you mean by that I don't mean anything that's the question that was asked you know I would assume that they're talking about Section eight housing under it do they build section 8 housing anymore like that and I'm not sure you know what that means anymore either so rules have changed with those organizations but

there's a question there's are questions that were asked so that's why I brought it up it was too little too much going on here so let me just continue so those are conditions that could be imposed the conditional use I think there's still a lot of questions to answer I would move for continued until this can be answered there's brought back and forth yes I'm not comfortable with this whole procedure not coming back to you people and as far as this nice lady over here mister she doesn't know what low income is or HUD housing is I don't know what you're doing up there I do know what it is I don't think it's what you think it is it's not it's not the housing is not done like it was in the past I said on a national committee that deals with this kind of housing so I do know what well that if you can deal with this kind of housing you can understand what we're upset about you can't put that kind of housing in a community like this my in my place where I live is senior citizen we're used to a quiet place to live so whenever there was a motion main to continue this until some of these things can be looked at ahead of a second over here second I wonder what the public public comment finish yeah right I think you need to finish your your public comment and then and then you can obtain you can continue did you do that I want my development to be notified my board of directors knows nothing about this nothing about anybody coming through la Madeira with all that traffic I don't know where you're gonna put all this traffic I don't know where the sewer just gonna go because it's costing me $100 more my taxes because we took the golf course out so we wouldn't have flooding you're gonna have flooding what's so nice that's why why I'm gonna have let me just help you a little bit that's what we brought that concern up and somebody else did and that's why we're asking for a continuance so that can be looked into okay that's okay thank you thank you but we need the votes to have a continuance so nobody else to speak see if there's any is there anybody else that that hasn't spoken that wishes speed then you can close public comment oh we got one coming forward no no restate your name and address and if you've been sworn Daleks and Zeus I live at one one five three four or Fox Run I wasn't sworn in okay do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give us a truth so help you God yes thank you first of all I wanted to know that I didn't even know anything about this until a few nights ago when I went on next door and Sandy Mullins had posted a thread I've been living in Bear Creek for about ten years my husband and I bought it in Oh four and we used it as an investment property until we'd moved to Florida and we moved into the home from what I understand from what sandy has said Jim's Isle of NuVision community told sandy Mullins that he plans to develop a low income HUD housing using two million of his own money an approximately eight million of federal and state money for HUD housing he plans on selling the tax credits to a

bank or an insurance company if you change the land use today it's too late for the residents of Bear Creek to do anything that's it thank you so much thank you anyone else wish to speak okay well close public comment mr. chairman I'm gonna move to continue to the next meeting in New Port Richey you you've already got that motion the motion motion on the side that's fun so I mean the most of the things I wanted to get looked at of this or the other things that were brought out the llama la Madeira and the possible HUD housing so those questions could be answered in part before the continuance happens I want to make sure we do have a meeting with the Bear Creek residents and the timbre of residents let's get as well mr. chairman are you also interested in exploring the buffer wall or not because if so staff need to craft that condition that doesn't have a buffer wall in there well there's no concealer there were no condition and they're currently about enhanced buffer in our wall or anything but we're suggesting conditions about 12 foot walls to wall in a community last time I checked multifamily was a compatible use and Co exists all over the nation with single family the whole affordability aspect of it you need a range of housing you have teachers law enforcement your own employees all that being said so before we start walling in those people I mean who those people are I have heard that you want a continuance we can agree to a continuance till November 27th and date city but mind you that we don't have a development plan this may never develop as multifamily it very well could develop as commercial and in Labadee area is a signalized intersection nature trail is not that's why you're conditioned relative to emergency access on nature trail is that's why that was considered so we're okay with continuing it but we're going to be having a conversation about what I just said should you have multifamily near single-family to the south of this is multifamily MF to the height requirement for c2 you can have 60 feet in height MF to which this is conditioned to is 45 feet in height the traffic is much much less for a multi-family versus a c2 use so we're okay with continuing it so that more information can get out but in the end of the day we can't discuss a development plan that talks about that talks about dumpsters and and fire code and drainage and all those things that the people want to hear about we can't have that discussion we don't have a development plan so the what we've done in the past I think it's absolutely correct the neighborhoods are concerned and want to hear about what is going on is you condition it because this is a zoning level use issue right now you condition it so just like we did on us 19 alternate 19 us 19 we the same issue people are concerned we conditioned it that before we can submit a plumber a plan we have to have a neighborhood meeting and we can have the condition

that it includes both Bear Creek and timber Oaks and you put it on and so that we actually can come to them with a plan because I've had meetings at the rezoning level lots of neighborhood meetings and I go there and we get yelled at because we don't have a plan and then they say we're just representing things we're not giving the information we're trying to hide things but we don't have a plan to show them and go over the things that they're most interested in we've increased our buffer the required buffer to the south is a type a buffer we've agreed to type B buffer requirements which I can run through those what they are there's a it's a 80 percent opacity requirement you have to achieve six feet an installation you can do it by fencing you can do it by berm and landscaping there's different ways to meet that eighty percent opacity you wrote your code to address compatibility and buffering so again we're happy we need to continue we can't continue a past November 27th if you if you'd like more time we can continue it to the next meeting but beyond that you only have one meeting in November and it's in date City so I'm sure if we haven't we have indeed City these people are going to be able make it you want if these people if we have a meeting of date City these people are going to make it there and there should be that burden it should be over here Commissioner they just had a full public hearing I've heard their concerns and from what the current concerns I'm hearing and when we talked about this the concerns are all about Bear Creek how to protect that hadn't heard anything from anybody from timber Oaks and I guess because they hadn't heard about so as we talked they have affordable housing on to the side it's all access there there's a shopping mall the other side there's a light there I figured that'd be okay but clearly hearing from the timber hoaxers that does change it I will tell you the inconsistency from what we're told about how this gentleman doesn't plan to Howard Housing hearing from the last speaker talked about how there was a HUD housing proposal where he's going to get financing tax credit for that is exactly what neither people neither groups want to say so I mean it's changed everything there's HUD housing yes is there going to be an application for tax credits but that's not HUD housing that's affordable housing so the result is the same as far as they're thinking I understand that they don't want affordable housing and I get that loud and clear that apparently those people can't live by them so I get it but but again but again I have affordable housing near my neighborhood week you've had a full public hearing the applicant deserves some kind of consideration here we're agreeing to a continuance so that we can I guess talk with your staff about the nuances of HUD housing versus low income versus affordable and see if there's any condition that can be had I'm not even sure that's quite legal to discriminate against a certain type of housing but

I'm glad to continue it for a month and we do that it's just not fair to the applicant when we meet the requirements we're compatible we're not we are not developing something we there's C 2's approved today you could have a racetrack you could have a fast-food restaurant you could have all of those things that have more intensity it's at some point it's not fair but I'm willing to do a continuance but you've had a full public hearing and so you've have all of the issues it's just like we did with the public hearing I'm clearly seeing resistance from both neighborhoods loud and clear if you came with that other densities whether the gas station or the commercial they don't seem to have a problem with that well they couldn't they couldn't have to be here and they wouldn't even be here in front of us and you just be going through that process to another committee but it's going to go through us we're here to see if it's going to be a personally affecting their neighborhoods and if they're here in the voices that they're saying and the concerns are saying I think it's valid and I think it's valid that we the way we set up our board meetings is we do have the meeting over here not over in Dade City when's the next when's the next meeting over here commissioners you set your meeting schedule it's just not fair to the applicant you set your meeting schedule you have no meetings in December you have no meetings over here until January so please be quiet an audience staff have a suggestion I think the issues before the board I mean that you do not have a meeting in New Port Richey until January you have one meeting in December and it's a date City one meeting November at some date city I am okay with November okay it gives them extra time they're going above and beyond really oh yeah so that's okay that's key promotion as it is and in continuing November who made the motion made he made the omission that motion was on the floor okay so it's motion so we have two meetings in a row and they said it's a secret it's the first meeting of the month oh and um one meeting as soon as the last one of the year and then the first earlier I say you're saying yeah yeah I've asked to fix that in the past by the way I'm gonna do all the December meetings in date City right no no we used to do all the December meetings here and now the November meetings there so why is the December meeting cuz you only scheduled one meeting in both places or in one meeting for November one meeting for December me ask you can we we still have a couple months December can't we change that December meeting to hear there's plenty of time for public notice I make a suggestion well he also have in the past special meetings right which might be easier than trying to adjust the entire board calendar just because of this one but why why are they but we I you know I'm what am I eight year here always the November meetings have been in New Port Richey I mean I'm sorry the November meetings

have been in Dade City and December meetings have been in New Port Richey which I've never really understood it might have to do with the swearing in it does so so if we swear you guys in in November why can't that December meeting be over here what's precluding that besides a public notice I honestly do not know what applications have been noticed for December the board approved the public hearing calendar at LED we messed up so I mean that I do suspect there probably are some land use hearings that are already noticed for December yeah so that's why I said maybe you should just have a special meeting for this one zoning in New Port Richey if you want to have it here yeah you can do that okay can we look at a calendar and can we do that in toward the end of November do we have a workshop and what about December 4th workshop maybe that's showing up as a new port richey right 4th one sec one sec we can make we make that work great 1:30 okay one so the most public hearing know what do we do with it what let me get what what can we do with the 10:00 a.m. and then first thing in the morning can we do a public hearing it again everyone what's the workshop on do we have other people coming in for the workshop that's not we're still working on the information for the workshop so we can have this Adam where we can have this item first thing at 10 o'clock in the morning yes okay and then that way if we ended up not needing the workshop then you only have this one meeting at 10:00 a.m. time sir second all right I have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye your staff to re notice so that people will get notice of that date as well 10:00 a.m. okay December 4th new port richey Newport Richie Rich all right you can't talk you can't count from the audience so we do have proof of p17 Tampa Bay Times September 21st 2018 good afternoon ends the Caldwell public works this is a country club estate P vast number three to six one on July 10 the board directors to proceed with this as a board initiated project there are sixteen streets within this project they are count maintained and paved the total estimated project costs is one point six five million dollars the maximum calls for a ru is $4,600 the discounted amount is three hundred and twenty seven thousand two hundred dollars and the maximum cost per gru after the discount is three thousand seven hundred dollars this is the location map u.s. 19 is off to the left and you have Dipper Ola and Country Club clothes drive I'm just a couple of photographs show what the condition is like college a college Hill and Duke drives conjugal up drive social and Princeton Drive and thus our court any comment any questions our Chairman yes we've been working in this neighborhood for a long time and one of the things I want to make sure we do is get the drainage right before we actually did the paving I had the

discussion last time as moving it forward about doing board initiated and when I saw the numbers come back for the full depth reclamation I thought it was a good number I mean a big number and I asked you guys did you really think it needed the full depth reclamation now some of the low parts of the roads I think is very critical to do it that way do you need to do every single Road full depth reclamation and the reason I'm asking this question in Commissioner Stark I was heading down in the holiday area and I got a call the other day from one of the past Civic Association president gulf race he asked me to go look at a couple of different things that one of them was driving the roads when I looked at the roads down there I looked at the one road that we had actually done and we had Reece repaved it with the chip seal and whatever however we did it we just redid the road the other roads that I looked at and drove around there were like 30 years old some of them had cracks about you know maybe a inch to a half inch wide but the base seemed to be pretty good and we approved one full depth reclamation which I wanted Brantford and of Brantford has reached out to him as yet to go through an apparent you want to talk to that that's fine but I don't want to make the mistake of overdoing this road these roads unless I really absolutely need to do full depth reclamation and one of the comment she had made was he didn't think the base was really good enough or strong enough right so before we do that I want to make sure that you're going to be 100% certain that this does need to be the full depth reclamation we had gone back through Brantford and I went through and we drove the roads and we came to the conclusion yes that we need to do full depth reclamation we can do less work but in terms of longevity of the road you're compromising that so we have looked at that and yet also access to look at reducing the cost and the intersection of the parola and 19 that is can be funded through a county safety funds because there's an improvement at that intersection so that money is not included in them on their would be assessed by the you know for the project the residents would not be paying that portion has already been factored in subtracted it's gonna be lowered down further no it's a it's already done so right okay you can tell that roads pretty bad shape these roads are in terrible shape no question about it and there needs to be done yeah okay okay thank you so public hearing and you have seven people signed up the order is Danny Halterman David Myer Timothy Costello or maybe crusty oh thank you Tracy Kelly okay thank you and then there's more after that thank you okay please state your name address and if you've been sworn I'm Danny Holden I live it said I'm on one three Country Club Drive Hudson three four three five three four six six seven and I have been sworn in

it doesn't matter that this is not one of the quasi quasi judicial hearings you don't need to be sworn for this okay basically we tried to get this done years ago and we were told no we had to get it done because it wasn't a county road and then that was years ago because I've been there since 91 now counties come through I don't have the money for that I've got health issues my wife has health issues we have a lot of other poor people in there who have health issues we all have money it's just not there we have retirees we have and then on top of that what are you gonna do about the speeders we got people doing 60 70 80 miles an hour in there now I've seen I've had motorcycles go down through there if they weren't doing 80 weren't doing dime I've had cars go down through there 60 70 mile an hour and they do this at a regular basis but not enough so the cops can catch him at it and you straighten out the roads they just go get faster I've had people in the back there's a friends of mine who complained because they're out there and in one of your pictures you picked you right there you look at the road you'll see that the bike tire marks on it somebody's been spinning somebody's been racing on you put a new road in there you put these new roads down there we're just going to have a bunch more hot rods we've already had people killed my next-door neighbor who was hit by a car on Country Club Drive you don't have sidewalks 30 mile an hour there's what they got it posted at but to come down through there at 60 70 and 80 we just and we can't afford it a lot of people in there just don't have the money I'm gonna be I'm uh disabled that I'm getting daddy we're getting by you know I braised my grandkid I had to raise my own kids then I had to raise my grandkids and that's why I'm in the hole I can't I haven't got any money and it frankly if you can't slow the traffic down one way you have to slow him down somehow I mean we had we've had people killed in there because of reckless straighten out the roads we're gonna have more of it and we'll have more deaths after after we have all the public comment we will have Brantford explain how the income grants work for Road reconstruction so hang on one second because that two or three hundred dollars every month no that's not every month and that's okay it's a it's an annual annual it's an annual fee thank you David he pretty much said exactly what I'll state your name David Myer and your address 7110 Country Club Drive that's okay you don't need to and he pretty much said what I was gonna say but as far as you know being retired and everything else I mean we asked for the speed limit to be dropped down from 30 to 25 or a little lower we got screwed we asked for speed bumps we got screwed so you know and then y'all throw this four thousand dollar bill on us just because you're gonna pave the road don't work you know you didn't want to work with us

and we can't what can work with y'all as far as the four thousand dollars I'm I'm retired meat cutter and money only goes so far my health isn't real good either so y'all make the decision but I'm gonna tell you it's not a good one if y'all pass this thing cuz we do need some kind of assistance next my name is Tracy Galliano gee al IOT oh the girls here who've been waiting very patiently to be heard today very good we had an address again what's your address they're good in public let's just say that and this is part of our lesson today her address again seven one zero nine Country Club Drive okay my husband has lived there all of his life since the house was built in 1972 it's a good over for him as mom so back in the day the community was wonderful there I've seen pictures even when I moved in with him it was great then the community has since gone downhill there's a lot of homeless in the area a lot of abandoned houses in there on our street in that community there we joke and least call it skid row between 52 and our our complex they're rated Country Club Drive because all the homeless line up there and the two homeless communities in between us I don't take my girls down the road anymore because of all the needles on the road we can't go riding the bikes so a few years back we asked for speed bumps to be put in because you've heard issues with the speeders and everything I'm nervous I'm sorry this pewter is go in there and they told us no they put some a speeding machine up and told us they weren't going fast enough to justify speed bumps well I can tell you otherwise so they see the speed machine they slow down they don't you know go fast when the speed machine is there but when the speed machine is there they fly so on Country Club Drive is where we live the road is not that bad the main drive it really does not need on there are some side roads that are bad and where they do find the flooding areas mainly in the intersections right there but the main road is not that bad and does not need on it is fine in front of my house which is near Moore the entrance until the turn is where they call the Speedway where they race that's the main road there it does not rename done it is a four thousand four hundred and thirty three dollars out of our for the next ten years so that's not small cash you may say it's a couple hundred dollars a year or whatever three hundred whatever they wrote it out to be three hundred seventy two dollars we don't qualify for low-income help so we can't ask for that as some people can and another thing most of those houses I would say 70 percent of those houses are renters in that community as well so then you're going to have to get all those runners to the people who own those houses to pay that as well thank you very much thank you state your name and address my name is Timothy Castillo my address is one to nine or six spring haven't you I apologize I'm a nervous speaker all right I am against a proposed project

involving the public roadway as a Country Club estates it is being forced upon us homeowners we were given no say in the matter in addition there's a very real threat that we could lose our homes if we do not pay this lien the letter from the Public Works Department states quote failure to pay any final assessment could result in loss of the property in the assessment I have driven these roads for three years so I have school buses delivery drivers Realtors and a bevy of other people what portion of the proposed 1.6 million dollar project are they being assessed as chief project manager Ainsley Caldwell informed us during the public workshop last month we cannot even seek aid from grants or other programs simply because the Board of Commissioners initiated this project as of 2017 the published salary for a Pasco County Commissioner it's eighty eight thousand seven hundred ninety five dollars a year my neighbors and I make substantially less than that since our situations differ so much I would like to share a bit about myself in hopes of humanizing the people that you are proposing to assess this lien upon I am 35 years old single and live alone and the youngest of three children and proud military family I began working in high school work through college and graduated magna laude at the age of 23 I had a good loving partner and comfortable life just before my 24th birthday I began having severe health issues and was subsequently diagnosed with a psychological disorder that changed in my life I lost my job my partner left me and I moved in with my mother because I needed constant care at the time according to my doctor's I would probably never work again and the best possibility was that I would live in a group home for the rest of my life which was not expected to be very long eleven years later and I know I'm in a home I worked part time for two years and I'm very well managed her medication therapy I have accomplished what I was told I would not and I am recovering for catastrophic situation I'm sorry my home is as important in my recovery as medication and therapy it is the physical realization of my success and motivates me to keep pushing towards the full functional recovery I live off of income from Social Security disability which totals less than $13,000 a year this lien represents a threat that I may have in a way of resolving one that may even result in my house being taken from me I asked the board if you were disabled if you lived alone and you supported yourself on $13,000 a year how would you feel if you received a letter demanding money you didn't have for public infrastructure work that you did not request and threatening to take your property if you didn't pay it why don't we have a say thank you for your comments there are many people who have signed up James Fritz Jake Simon and Mary Lou Simon I'm all for the paving I don't want to see anybody have any financial hardships of it but when we pull fight yelling buckets into potholes and the rain comes they float away and you knock the front

end out of your car so that's not a way to fix a pothole I've been in a neighborhood for 25 years the neighborhood was great we're coming back up with the help of Pasco County with their code we're getting back in shape or we shouldn't be like I said I don't want to see any hardship to anybody who can't afford it but I think the project really needs to go forward sir I do need your name and address for the record names for it 7400 University Drive thank you sir thank you mr. Simon yes my name is Jake Simon and I hate to say it but it's 128 10 Vassar Court there you go faster anyway I believe we need us done I know it's a lot of money I've been handicapped now for what about two and a half years three years but we've been there 30 years and nothing has ever been done that rogue just such a you're better and better it feels like when you go down r1 main thing that we use it's like going on a Mickey Mouse right cars your cars bouncing everything else it needs done I know it's a lot of money but when you figured how much it is per year it's not all that bad but the one question I do have and like somebody brought up runners why in the heck can't people that don't have the homestead thing paid less and have them runners that I have are making money off their property pay more for their taxes or more for this that's all I've got Marylou Simon I'm Mary Lou Simon 1 2 8 10 Vassar court and I want to thank you all for the time that you have dedicated yourself on this road project it will benefit many and I just wanted you to know that I call today to get one Road in that area it had four big potholes so in like my husband said we've lived there actually has been 34 years since we've lived there and there's been nothing and that's been done so I would appreciate it if you would approve it thank you thank you that's everybody who's been who has signed up in advance anyone else who wants to speak if you could go ahead and come forward state your name and address and then make a line behind this lady thank you my name's Susan delage I lived six four two four Yvette Drive I owned homes in Country Club States which I do run out the gentleman had addressed that there is some flooding issues in there I'm concerned about the drainage I also went through the vast program which is the disabled veterans I do it at a lower rate I do pay the taxes and insurance on it I am willing to give up one year's rent on all of these homes because if you took the 4,600 my taxes and insurance that's what these veterans are paying so I will be out the income for the year on I own 11 rental homes I do a background check income verification and they're screened through the vas program it is a much-needed thing I do want the people in the community to know that I do screen everyone that goes in there but in order to get this done I am giving up the income for the year for the veterans yeah thank you thank you I'm gonna need a cast Ryota from Castro

to Chevrolet at one two nine three zero US Highway 19 and we have two small parcels that but Country Club Estates drive your address per me named rank I'm not sure if this is the right time to talk about it but the whole project and these people have concerns that are well-established Walmart has bought two houses that they're tearing down and putting a drive-thru from their Northside and it's going to be going to this do Polo Drive where a light is going to be and nobody's talking about that so you're talking about a lot of traffic coming through this neighborhood you're assessing Castro to Chevrolet at two lots and we don't have access to that road but I'm gonna want it because I'm paying the assessment to use it so you need to ream a beer II think this whole project and how it's affecting people there are a lot of people here that can't afford this the woman with the children it talked about the needles is correct we pick needles out of our grass where they throw them over the fence every week we all know about the homeless problem we all know about everything but I would like to see you spend more money on our side of the county like you do in Wesley Chapel for sports fields and giving tax abatements and things to companies to come in and put in big businesses and hotels and things where it actually increases our standard of living other than giving Walmart a pass-through thank you very much Thank You [Laughter] commissioners tom castillo de castro to chevrolet 1 to 9 3o US highway 19 and again i understand the the conflict that the board's gonna have to face because you have residents that cannot afford this road repair I realized the roads back there need repaired but it's also about affordability but back to kind of reiterate Anita's comment I really believe what's driving this is Walmart having a pass through because beacon woods when Walmart came in years ago wouldn't allow that traffic to come through beacon woods so now Walmart has bought property that's good been given a right away and it's on the map if the planners want to put the map up that the commissioners will see that the Walmart will have that northern access to go into the private community into this residence that's gonna is a public road it's a County Road that the residents are going to pay for now if this is passed and Walmart's customers are going to utilize it so they don't have to go through beacon woods thank you very much go ahead and come forward anyone else who wants to speak about p17 please come forward and get in line thank you 1 to 703 Capitol Drive in Hudson our streets are deplorable our streets flood I have blown up the engine on my car that's how bad our streets are the potholes are like sinkholes I don't know if there's a more affordable way for people to do this as well as for the pass-through to Walmart presently if you want to leave my development to go to Walmart you have to make a right go across all

years old there's also another set of guidelines there's also the eligibility of houses based on the years they were built and the cutoff is 1994 and there's also the value if it exceeds the cutoff 94 they had to be built before 94 after 94 if it's a mobile home it's not only eligible if it is owned sorry its regular homes yes just reading the rules just read the rules all right let me start from the beginning because you get a better picture I was just doing some snippets and type of home is eligible for the program including condos and townhomes very mobile and manufactured homes only the tax on the property is eligible mobile homes are only eligible if the land is owned and was built on after 1994 facing value of the mobile home so go on and the value cannot exceed one hundred and sixty thousand dollars as per the county property appraisers your property must not have 75% of Death Valley to it you know you you gotta bard money more exceeding 75% of it you can't have at that you know second mortgage or whatever the case may be okay but if you don't have a second mortgage and your home was built before 1994 you're okay right but in 99 that's correct is this a mobile home community oh no no so some of these residents I would think would qualify for this that's correct until they do their individual application the Community Development we don't run that program but we provide the flyer in all the letters we sent out okay I'm on the Walmart access I we I think I might have been on the school board and on the LPA when you guys were discussing that because I remember the Walmart and the access points being discussed a long time ago I don't know why would have been here otherwise what what's the story around those Walmart accent actually here's the story with the Walmart access many years ago when beacon woods public hearing was held with with the County Commission they wanted they didn't want Walmart to have access with light going into Walmart so the beacon was resident supposed to take a right to command right to come out that in with the traffic on vehicles drive there was another condition on the other end of it over to Polo where the people from Country Club estates could come back and forth there was a condition that prevented that opening from happening when Walmart bought the property they bought the two Lots when they bought the two lot suit or the houses down that was going to be their access with all these conditions that were coming out they hadn't ended up not connecting partly from that condition was back from a long time ago that they couldn't do that connection Walmart did not want to even allow that Country Club the state's action because they didn't want to have the cross try from Country Club estates running through their development out to be could strive to get out there only that we're now going to allow through this new plan with a rotary at Beacon woods Drive where people can come in and out of bika was drive to get in there and a light now gonna be paid for by FDOT at de pollo in

us 9 teen with those things happening it freed up for that connection for two polar to happen as well at the pole at the start of it part of the project as mentioned earlier part of its going to be paid for with the safety improvement with the light at 19 so that's kind of like where that's all happened it hasn't been from Walmart generating it back it's been more with you know my dealing with residents in beacon woods where they have to go out 19 come back over and see in Country Club the state's people where they got to go out take the u-turn come back and then they got to go back out and then go right and right to get back in it didn't make sense to have all our residents going on us 19 the most dangerous highway to go back and forth so now and now we're getting that and that's part of this here so so let me be clear so these homes that are built before 1994 they do qualify for this ship program okay the homes and they're all they're all very long so they do do qualify and what does that actually give them is that debt relief free making these payments basically what happened is that at the end of the assessment that the paving project the final assessment is done and then the resident would apply and provide whatever documentation and to determine how much you know towards the repayment of the assessment will be made and about what a single-family would be I think there's a limit 24 grand the most of those available to you is $15,000 $15,000 max yeah and the assessment is three thousand seven months so they don't have to pay it if they fall into that program it's really a loan over an extended period is 0% alone is what it is no one's gonna lose interest rate no one's gonna lose their home as this goes on they're on the ad valorem tax rolls and then get paid well that's the way you assess them but under the ship program what does the ship program do to keep them from losing their home how does it work it pays the assessments on the interim but they still have to pay back the assessment sometime later sometime later so like the Castaway if they sell though I mean to things sometime later yes he sells a home or he passes away exactly and if the roads in better shape to hold is in better shape okay I'm gonna increase the value yes so being then I have done everything I can looking at staff working as far as I can to find out if we really need to do these roads and if you do if you do change your mind out there will be welcome welcome Lee received but being that we're doing full depth reclamation I want to stretch this term out as we done with a previous one to the 15-year term and also bring the interest rate down to the three and a quarter as we've done that the previous one that was done full depth well the motion to approve I'll second that I'm not sure how the monthly what number would come out so you're saying 15 years 15 years repayment period and what interest rates

at 3.25 we were born to five again we're taking less money out of it we're taking money out of the kitty to pay of other roads and you just adopted a rate resolution to apply the prime rate to P Bass Pro 5.25 to design point two five percent but because this was done before the new rate we were still at the old rate I have a constituent who's upset because their forty first on the list I mean then there's just not money to fund these road projects it's a problem but I see that there are you know some heart-wrenching stories here so I'm willing to do this but I I think I think it's bad policy but here we are okay nope sorry no questions from the audience we can't I mean these roads are falling apart they're gonna have car repairs gonna have health issues it's gonna be problems with these roads like you can see it from the photo we've got to fix the roads yeah so we have a motion in a second yeah we have motion a second other discussion here none I all those in favor aye opposed motion passes Jim and I would say that I had not known there was a speed table study that was being done so after we get these roads done both bring that back up let me find out what the analysis was first and the floor floor you bring that back up well we get traffic cops find out what the analysis showed cuz there's a process they have to go through or traffic calming let's find out what that showed and see why that was some Mirman that it wasn't appropriate again I got there's a note we're gonna look into it yeah okay that that concludes public hearing now we're done with record miscellaneous business so go to Oh business commissioner more thank you let me give you a pala just give me one second I got a full slip it up so I'll have my computer here it's not working it's like I use my phone it what's that that's gonna pull up item up effort hang in there okay ready yeah I don't have a lot today so just one thing to invite any bye to that wants to come we're gonna have the 2018 economic development summit very similar to what we had last year it's going to be on Friday November 2nd at Pasco Hernando State College at the Porter campus and Wesley Chapel one of our big focuses is also going to be on tourism in Pasco County myself Dan miles will be in the afternoon number of other people in the morning I'm trying to figure out of Thomas will be there Gordy Zimmerman Richard Blaylock from rad sports at CCO from shadow Brook and we'll have somebody there from a tip of a Sports Commission so it'll be a great last time it was packed it was full of think they I think they were sold out so we're looking forward to another great event again that is going to be Friday the second it starts at 11:00 a.m. and it ends at 2:00 p.m. I can't I'm not in charge of that notice I'm just I'm just a panelist so you can talk to the North Tampa Chamber of Commerce if you like but you're all invited you think I don't know what it cost though so you have to talk to them about it

I think that's all I have thank you we'll see in our next meeting in in the November commissioners talking hey so I'm passing out to you itself tonight there was a bee pack meeting and it's they're talking about pedestrian crashes and I mean passing out to you the crash heatmap on us 19 and if you see where the arrow is that is it's just a little north of me I'm lying it's just a little north of marine Parkway you can see where Gulf harbour sticks out that is where marine Parkway is just a little north of that so I would say to you if we're building a pedestrian overpass to reduce pedestrian crashes we should put it where the red spots are and not where the green spots are so I did ask I did speak to Mario over in New Port Richey and I asked him to email me their trails map and actually they they did email me a map and they do they do have a plan so that was good to see and they are looking at building a trail that will one day connect to Marine Parkway so and that pedesta that overpass will be part of that trail network which eventually is going to be very good thing I just think we're shooting ourselves in the foot to ask for a bridge before we have a trail it's not done in the state normally you have a trail and you then you have users and you connect the two so again I would say we're putting a cart in front of the horse to ask for that funding we didn't get anything funded last year and so I would from our priorities except for the transportation separate transportation did we get any of our other projects funded yes okay we did very well last year in transportation we did we hit it out of the park and transportation beautification along USI Tina there has been funny yeah the d-o-t stuff the d-o-t stuff came through so i I just it's so important that we fix 19 and I think the beautification project and the project at Port Richey that will enhance that by you to me are really really important projects that we should really really focus on so I just throw that out out to you that we can't stand behind this being for pedestrians and it's a and it's a trail it's a it's a bridge that doesn't connect anything so moving on I passed out to you pictures I took driving down the street last weekend holiday that are showing you residents who are just throwing their garbage outside their house and it's gonna take me a second but I'm gonna show you what I received so many of these over the weekend so many emails from my residents out there I'm gonna try and I just have to remember their names but one is Paula I'm gonna read to you what's gonna take me a second let me let me give you over to Commissioner Mariana when I'll pull out those emails but I do have not then come back to me hey I don't want to keep you waiting while I look for them Thank You mr. chairman in for as I told you I was gonna reach out to New Port Richey in Port Richey about the Marine Park Way and the underpass as well it is the it is a top priority project for new port richey they're putting in six hundred thousand

dollars towards the project so they're gonna go fight for it as it is important to them as far as the underpass goes I did talk to the mayor port richey and they've never gone to Tallahassee to lobby but they've never made a list up of what the priorities are but they will make a list up for us that we can go bring up there to show them that it's important to them too so it's a good thing a couple of hire Ralph and provost salary yeah and we in subcontract hours so we can so having said that I want to I want to say Brantford dan biles Mike karela did a phenomenal job in getting a project done on quiz drive which is on an Old Post Road in Port Richey where there's a big lake that comes across from Ridge Road just below average road into the city of leads into a canal there was silt on both things when the storm was coming in we reached out and we got approval from DEP within just a few within like an hour or two to go dig it out and get the water flowing they did a partial clearing out of it and I want to commend Dan for stepping up and making sure it got done but there's gonna be more to be done in in in the effects of trying to get a permit for the storm that was coming in they also gave us another permit for a maintenance dredge on it as well so we can actually clear that out and I think at the next meeting hopefully we'll have some information together we can talk about it and find out what the cost would be and try to work at part maybe a partnership with the city to share in the cost to get that cleaned out now because I think in the coming years having that clear that will definitely affect not only water quality but the storm water situation that goes on in leisure lane mr. Bryles has been great working with me working with code enforcement trying to go clear out that area I do want to see us go out there we've got a couple of issues they just went on they took four truckloads of trash away what's happening is people are hanging out in the back canal which has been grown in etc which needs to be cleaned out and there's a lot of Brazilian peppers and vegetation that's there that they hang on under I think we need to go in there make the effort go clean the whole thing out and give that place a chance I will tell you this other groups with affordable housing looking to try to come in and work with habitat to take over that those properties and work with them in building up those properties in the fast pace I think the cleaner the property looks the more advantageous it'll be Forest to make that all happen and rather than taking a long time to get it done so if mr. bowels can move put a plan together to do all that and bring before the board I think it'd be good if the blue thinks it's worthwhile okay alright and as we talk about events coming up on its Sun West Park oh by the way I'll give you a little sneak preview but I was shown earlier today they get ready for a parking pass at Sunwest our annual fast so I know annual and will air an annual parking pass we talked

about have one for the $30 or $50 whatever it may be probably lower for Pasco residents but they're gonna hopefully bring that for but they're they're getting close now there are a couple events coming up which may be good Classical Academy is running one the first week it's a 5k run they've actually closing down arabica Road at one point that going through all the permitting for that and then cares is running the beach charity event the weekend right after that that's why they paint the show's yeah yes you did thank you very much I think it's the seventh and eighth or so the second week in December remember though the cemeteries it was like a second second weekend in December but both of those should be good and I guess the beach sand is gonna be open before that time so hopefully we'll get in time as well so everything should look good so that's all I have thank you all right are you ready I am ready okay so I'm gonna leave awesome names and addresses in here but I just want you guys to get a little feel for the challenges that we have in part of my district cuz I don't have this over towards Wesley Chapel but I definitely have this in the 19 area dear Miss Starkey we are very discouraged here myself and two other residents that are next to this property are truly at wit's end I asked for help two weeks ago and you did send code enforcement out I even got cited that is fine now I know more of the law now and did what I needed to do but the certain place in holiday is still out of control please we call code again the household garbage is overflowing out of the house I have pictures but can app cannot upload them on my computer they have a child with them who was total care and two other children mr. Knight has trapped several rats and the other neighbor has found one on his lawn dead we will be overrun by the time they get to they go to court December can the Health Department do something I contacted children's services hoping a visit from them would give them a push but the people that live there do not let anyone into the house you can see this you can see this from the road the smell is awful the bus picks up the disabled child at 6:30 a.m. and then they leave with the other two by 8:00 a.m. they come back at 3:30 to get them off the bus and then they leave and return after dark we believe they are avoiding not only code but the landlord who is a slumlord we believe this place should be condemned code has been here several times this landlord is only looking for buts not good tenants we pay taxes this just is not fair for us fair to us who comply with the rules we would also like to address what what that it seems squatters have more rights than we do and we pay taxes mrs. so-and-so died last February and the person living in there with no water or electric has all kinds of junk in front of of the her trailer this was called in also it seems his mother is waiting for the place to go up for taxes now the neighborhood has to look well I'm not sure what she was

writing here something like something until then please help us I've got like three of these and I can I can share with you a whole Facebook post of people in that area who are having a really really hard time dealing with the way they're staying their conditions are in that area I went to the Wawa on 19 because I read that they had taken out all their tables outside of the Wawa because the vagrants were staying there all the time and I drove around looking at the area in the mediate area before I turned in to the Wawa and I noticed that a lot of the home vagrants I don't know what you want to call them were in the GUP the gas station north of the Wawa they were sitting on the curbs underneath the shade on both sides of the door and I can tell you I drove around and spent 20 minutes or so in that area not one car pulled into that gas station because who's going to pull into a gas station that has that to greet you when you open your door to pump your car I have I have constituents who are getting accosted walking out of Aldi walking into Walgreens it is out of control it's as bad as I've ever seen it on 19 and holiday that gas station is now up for auction a quick sale I'm sure his I'm sure he hasn't sold gas in a long time and I just say that the rental registry will really help us really help us hold slumlord landlords accountable require garbage pickup it's it's one little piece of a tool that we need in that area I'm working with the sheriff on more ideas I talked to him about giving him that mile stretch empty fire station for a substation but he said it's more it's too expensive but really the your can your constituents in the holiday area are pleading for more help pleading for more help so and I want to remind you about the lectures on the lawn November 2nd and on October 30th will have the ribbon-cutting for the stark egapp trail so I hope you all could be there yes I'd like to ask your consideration a walk on item it's a remember it's a assignment of a lease that we have on Clinton Avenue to the state of Florida department transportation welcome second I've got a motion a second all in favor say aye back in 2014 the board approved the lease we with a property owner there and what we're doing now is assigning that to the state so that they can start the Clinton Avenue extension work on this property mr. chairman given that this is a an emergency walk on and it is a proposition you need to ask for public comment though I don't see that there okay is anyone here to speak to this Adam well I didn't get to hear exactly what it was okay I'm gonna vote yes thank you no it's in it's buried in the red folder it's in the red folder under all those resolutions good afternoon Tim Bauer's real property and planning facilities management department is an assignment of a lease to the Florida Department of Transportation this assignment will allow them all of our rights and interest in the property and it'll allow them to do a demolition of a dwelling that is on the premises in the

existing right-of-way and it'll save the county the cost of demo and thanks I saw that but I didn't know what it was I've got a motion and a second all in favor say aye aye all right motion passed we do anything else that's all I have Thank You mr. chairman members the board I need to ask for your indulgence to do a litigation assessment meeting in Diane Coburn Nick at al versus Pasco County case number five one - 2016 - 3484 to discuss settlement strategies or litigation expenditures I would propose your next board meeting of 11 27 and the time is at your discretion thirty minutes probably okay I'm fine with doing it at your lunch at your noon break a motion for that no no will will formally announce it at the 1127 meeting and will arrange for a court reporter to be there at noon okay all right that's all I've got thank you I have I have three items actually they're all happy items too last Friday was a sixth annual veteran stand down and we had Veterans Court 37 veterans were presented their outstanding cases a hundred and fifty seven cases were heard in over 82 thousand dollars in fees were waived 21 veterans were able to get their valid licenses that day and over $2,000 was provided by sponsors to help them with reinstatement so we're really excited about that that's the sixth annual veterans stand down we do it once a year and it was very well attended a lot of agencies participated and we're really excited that those veterans can get back on the road yeah thanks the second one is the clerk's for cure car show was this past Saturday and I really have to commend Revis John's he's a maintenance technician three and facilities and Eric he did a great job it was his idea to have a car show we had 67 cars we had Marvelous Marvin with hits 106 out there all day emceeing and live on the radio we I just want to tell you the Best in Show award was given to doc Holliday's car it was the first time that it was out of the garage since his death in last November it's a 1932 Ford convertible coupe driven by captain Davis of the Sheriff's Office so it was really a very meaningful event and we hope that you will indulge us to continue that tradition Napa wants to continue in the future it was really great event thank you and then the third one for many years the clerk's office hasn't been able to return money to you we do have money to give back to you this year just like senator Fasano but not quite as much as our tax collector gave us we have four hundred and sixty-five thousand three hundred and eighty $1.24 that we will get to you prior to October 30th but I am requesting that you spend $25,000 or that you give $25,000 to each domestic violence center here in Pasco they work so hard and I'm asking if you could give $25,000 to pace and to the volunteer way it's only a hundred thousand dollars of the four hundred sixty-five thousand and when you look at it you still get three hundred sixty-five thousand dollars and three and three hundred and eighty $1.24 to spend however you want legally and

and then you get to help for agencies in our county so that's my request thank you thank you sorry I forgot something I know third is the term one more but Paula reminded me of something so do we need a motion on that request or we'd have to I mean once we receive the funds we'd have to bring the budget amendment to the board anyway I can do that and so that would be done at that time okay and so I have another budget amendment request and you heard the library folks speak today how they went with the school district to look at a facility in Hillsborough County the Carrollwood Cultural Center and you know that in that there is a library that is being built that is the first one of its kind a Colo co-located library with the school district and the county and I have been working with our staff and the school board staff as we go through iterations of the project and I will tell you first the school district has been fantastic work fantastic to work with and they have found a to add more amenities to the project they they are they have pulled the library a little closer to the school and they are putting some of their square footage back into the library and their funds over and above the 12 million that we have allotted for it and it'll help us to get an outdoor area that that the community can use for outdoor events which would allow alcohol to if we wanted it to and near the theater but where we are short is on the makerspaces and we you know their plan right now is to maybe have a makerspace that you roll the equipment in and then you got to take all the equipment out and bring in all your other equipment and that is just not practical so in talking with the school district who's in charge of building it and getting the architect they set Raigad thought we needed one more million dollars to be able to build three maker spaces at what will be the Cultural Center and what I think will be the new model for these kind of buildings in the county I hope we get one over on the east side and I'm Ray's already looking at sites where the county and the school district can share again so today we got a little surprise from Mike Fasano because I had a plan to go ask for money from him in a different way so we got an extra million dollars today and that fits what school district said we need to get the maker spaces in the building so I would love to see you approve that to go help make this building you know the premier building and a in the beginning of a model that we should replicate throughout the county because maker spaces make the place they really do yeah well that's that's what I thought we needed to but Raigad said he thought we could the architect could build those three spaces with one and if we need more I have an idea but right now I'm just asking for one and we got an extra one this morning above and beyond like we do other requests we'll put it under consideration they need to know pretty quick because the architect is gonna be designing it so you want maker spaces in your centers that would

be something that mr. miles might have to bring back to well I mean you know right now the funds that the tax collector returns and other constitutional returns rolls to the bottom line and goes into fund balance and our reserves you've already committed some of that money to other things this year based on his original estimates Mike my only concern with this we don't know what's gonna happen on November 6 with respect to homestead and some other stuff and so that is my only hesitation is that right now that additional money that both he's returned and you know pallas returned and we may get from the other constitutional would roll into fund balance to be our reserve account if you will and we are still pretty short on general fund reserves right now so you know that's my only concern I would say let's see what happens when November 6 weren't through that and then maybe after November 6 we could we could adjust something and I had asked you to get me a number and I don't think I saw it but every year at the end of the year they sweep funds from all the different accounts and they go into different fund balances and I know you said there's only certain accounts that go into the general fund balance but I'm just looking this is our opportunity and the we won't be able to add it once we're done and this is this is the opportunity so I agree we have to look at it once it goes through we have this voting in and in the reason I have an answering request is we saw how pending invoices that are out there that we've not finished closing at the end of the year so we actually don't know that number yet because of the pending invoices and payments that still need to be made for goods and services that were delivered before the the first of October that usually takes us through the end of November ish to get that number so in that rut that we make an assumption of what that number is and that's what you set your fund balance at and that reserves that we hold in the budget so I mean that's there's already an assumption built into the budget for that all right I'm just let you know we have this issue and I found a way I think we found a way this morning that we might be able to fix it chair recognizes Cathy Pierson thank you Cathy Pierson assistant county administrator public services I just want to add commissioner Starkey I had the privilege ago in the Tampa last week and we learned a lot about the the theater and right now in our plans we have by the 203 seating capacity they down in Tampa urged us you really need 250 that's what's going to bring the revenue in so there's a potential of more revenue coming in if we build it larger and that's why we're looking at 250 seats that's what attracts most of the bands and things are a community theater that would want to come to our community so with that it is leaving less space for our makerspace so that is why one of the big things that we were looking at is possibly expanding the 250 seating and that will bring some additional revenue

and in the future and remember once we have a plan we can take that plan save all that money in architecture costs and put it somewhere else on the east side of the county one day because I think you should have these cultural centers - ok mr. chairman I could just bring up one item I think I brought it up before but with just parking pass yeah one item Sunwest was gonna be called sun west beach when the park was opened up they couldn't get the domain name to be called some of our species want to call it Sun West Park I think we need to go to the name if I need to make a motion to start calling it Sun West Beach I think it'll be much better for a marketing Road could be something we think about and you're bringing it back to back but again maybe get with staff and tourism and stuff is here you guys can let them work with the owners yes get some side isn't stuff to change I think I'd be good at one side there's only one I don't know that let's just some other Markham utility all right I know I have one item the fact that in San Antonio and st. Joe Road area st. Joe area and Pasco County we are constantly having bicyclists come in that area and ride on the shoulder of roads that do not have paths for bicycles and I'm constantly getting calls into my office about how unsafe it is and just over the weekend I said they had an event it was 40 or 50 bikes I drove up on I mean I met them and they're not in a single line on the edge of road and the roads not marked there are three across and take up the road I mean and then they're the first ones that complain if somebody gets hit by a car they can't go on the edge because the edge is all messed up well I know and it's got potholes on the edge of some of these roads in the countryside in a rural area we're not gonna fix those roads in for a while but somehow we need to be addressing if they should not be allowed on his roads and let's put them over all these trails that we spent all the money on that are safe and and force them to ride where they're safe instead of here all the time well it's county commissioners fault or if it's some government into the city or whatever because they allowed us happen they get hit by car and there has been some work done out there before you were Commissioner and you should get with work me over they've they've identified the rap routes the biking community cycling community who comes from all over the state but not in the city this is happening right so we have we have cycling routes and we we hired an engineering company to go out there and do route safety studies we've we've had so many bike ped people since that's that study was done probably the guy that's here now doesn't even know we did that but they identified low-hanging fruit that would be inexpensive for them to go out and make make it a little safer for everybody and when Hernando County got d-o-t safety money to widen I think at Spring Lake Road to put shoulders on there and

it stops at the county line that and someone needs to be the Advocate out in those hills to actually go and get there's federal money there's DoD money that will bring in money to build shoulders on those roads on those routes that were identified and make it safe for two-way traffic and the cyclists so there's been a lot of work done but I gave it a big push and I can have the bike bike you can you should come talk to the bike ped committee sometime because they have all been involved in that but we you can't where were they're supposed to ride two abreast not very much no no no it's to understand you can't get two on that on that strip of land they've got there is money available and while we have mr. Simpson we should try and get some money up there to widen those shoulders miss trail down the list for next year huh are you aware of that study a EECOM I believe AECOM okay that would be found I can get that I know how to address some of that so it's really an issue out there right for Mariana would it help like you just mentioned marking the road would it help mark ignored at least they're going to stay on one side of the road instead of on both sides of the road no you got traffic on both sides mics are supposed to ride with traffic when they're on the road yeah frankly some of those roads you can't even fit two trucks going side by side never mind a tractor in a truck but my rule I am talking about all right that's all I have and you buddy got anything else [Music] you [Music]