Pasco BOCC Meeting, 09.04.2018 - Afternoon Session (1 of 2)

[Music] every one I would like to call back to order the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners meeting for September 4th 2018 if you could please make sure your cell phones are silenced I would appreciate it we would appreciate it have any resolutions correct okay so we won't move on proceed to the public hearing at Jane agenda starting with item P one ordinances madam clerk do we have proof [Music] Tampa Bay Times July 27th 2018 good afternoon commissioners Denise Hernandez Planning and Development today this is the adoption of an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending a Pasco County land development code amending section 402 point 5 a temporary uses to provide for mobile food operations amending appendix a definitions providing for applicability repealer severability inclusion into the land development code and an effective date this ordinance was presented to you on August 21st for first reading it also was found by the local planning agency to be consistent with a comprehensive plan and they recommend that approval to the board I also ask you to if you if you would like to also take up item r1 which is an a resolution establishing a fee schedule for this same purpose which is a 100 dollar annual registration fee for mobile food operations and I'm here with any questions you may have thank you sir so we can I talked earlier so just for the record we're charging 100 for the permits which is lower than the surrounding counties is that correct yes I have some information here so what have we've been able to acquire city of Tampa has an annual permit fee of one hundred sixty two dollars st. Petersburg has an annual fee of one hundred and seventy dollars Sarasota County has an annual fee of forty dollars and then there's some smaller cities that do charge less such as a city safety harbor which is 65 and the city of Leesburg which is 15 cities Commission if I think this was a great idea of County it's okay this is a public hearing I do not have anyone signed up for p1 if you'd like to speak to p1 please come forward under discussion I just know we have it on 90 days but I would like us to consider increasing that so that it becomes available on weekends 12 months other through 12 months no more than 90 days in one calendar year so explain sure if 90 days is for food trucks and then there's a provision for temporary roadside stands and that's a little bit longer that's 180 days if I'm not mistaken then there's also the possibility of doing a mobile an actual food court which is a permanent operation and that would require can going through site plan process well I would just like to amend it and so say 90 days to say 104 it's not permanent like a restaurant that's in a permanent so you're gonna get all they can all you have to do is they're gone for two days you can come back no it's a 90 days cumulative not 93 years in fact what

you're talking about the okay yeah so I would make I would like to amend the motion to increase it to 104 these as amended district 1 Commissioner Oakland okay that's the clerk cool so I interpret that as mr. Starkey has made a motion to amend the ordinance that's before you and she's gotten a second so you need to vote on that first and then the ordinance as a whole so out on the ordinance adopted with our proposed amendment district 1 Commissioner Oakley uh district 2 a Commissioner more District three commissioners aye district five commissioner mariano district 4 chairman was and so motion to adopt the ordinance as a whole so move district 1 commissioner oakley i district 2 commissioner more i district 3 commissioner starkey i district 5 commissioner Mariano but district 4 chairman was okay I had a p2 madam clerk we do have proof Tampa Bay Times August 24th 2018 good afternoon sir good afternoon mr. chairman Adam Thomas director tourism the Office of Tourism Development for Pasco County before we get to the public hearing to amend the chapter 102 for the past the Pasco County code of ordinance by amending section 102 to 190 I'd like to show her the board's request the the visitor profile study and economic impact study from the past six months from January 2018 except to date to June 2018 and just give the board and the our a little bit of update of of how we've been doing over the past six months this is all new data new research that that the Office of Tourism Development and The Tourist Development Council has not had in years past and these numbers really show a great light of what we're doing not only for the visitor industry but also the economic community for for Pasco County you can see we're over four hundred and fifty thousand visitors in a six month period that generated over four hundred eighty thousand room nights for for Pasco County spending close to two hundred and thirty five million dollars jobs sustained by tourism our tourism industry was close to 3600 income sustained by tourism is over eighty three million in taxes sustained by tourism generated close to twenty three million dollars in sales tax work for the destination fifteen million dollars in the state and federal and you can see where the local local taxes has has generated as well over over a six-month period hotel occupancy rate is up to almost three percent reaching almost seventy five percent that's great for new product development that's coming online when hotels are really looking at our destination they look first at the star report that shows where our occupancy trend is at and where it's going to be going over the course of the next 18 months and right now we're steadily hovering right around that seventy five seventy eight percent range so back to the ordinance amendment this is a public hearing too for an ordinance amending chapter 102 of the Pasco County code of ordinance by amending section 102 to 192 amend the updated tourist development council plan

for Pasco County providing for applicability repealed server ability inclusion into code and effective date our request is to adopt the 2019 to 2021 three-year strategic tourism development plan and over the course of the next three years we're going to be focusing on four key goals for the tourism industry that creates a more focus in a more strategic direction it relates to destination marketing sales and service destination development destination advocacy and community stakeholder relations and destination resorts and management performance and before you today are it's just seven key goals are what we're going to be focusing on as it relates to our expenditures of the tourism development tax per the state statue of one twenty five zero one zero four and with that I ask or oh I open up the public comment so thank you Adam in the you and your team have been doing a great job and thank honored to chair the tourism development council now and I tell you next week we're going to the governors members conference conference in Orlando so I'll do a lot of great things no matter that Tim so I mean this is the first time this has ever happened this first time we've ever seen Don Thornton at this nature and I think you're also gonna see some great numbers in the next 12 months or some I just like to call them guest events but there's projections out there that even make this look small compared we're using yeah right yes sir so good things going on but Adams team has done a great job I just want I just hope everybody supports his efforts and we can move on Commissioner Briana you know look at the report going through it I didn't see anything about the Sun West I didn't say I start pictures of the beach it didn't even look like our Beach we've done we talked about the destination marketing and for all the other counties they don't ever ties Pasco the only take place at cetera I did see anything about tree hoppers in there either so I hope you're gonna take a closer look at all that what we're gonna do it into a probe everything especially with what's going on with red tide down below we've got a great opportunity in Greenup mist oh yeah they're in there too the comic Commissioner that's our next step in our next presentation to the board is our 2019 communications plan which that's gonna be in it this is just our strategic plan of where we're gonna be focusing for the next three years no great job we've come a long way yes sir lucky to have you and your team sir okay this is a public hearing I do not have anyone signed up to speak on p2 if you'd like to speak on this item please come forward district one Commissioner Oakley district 2 Commissioner Moore district 3 Commissioner Starkey I destroyed 5 Commissioner Mariano my district 4 chairman was I just wanted to say I think I don't know Keith is here but we're working on some kind of ceremony to commemorate the beginning of construction of the Starkey gap and then

we planned next year when it's done of course this is the largest segment of the coast to coast trail that's being constructed it'll make it'll close the biggest biggest length and we want to have a huge event inviting all the counties along the coast to coast trail for those in the audience here it will it starts in st. Pete and it's a bike trail that will go through our County and go all the way over to Titus film I know the state plans to market it internationally so just hope your Tourism Board gets involved in that engaged in that and we'll have a big celebration yeah thank you okay thank you Thank You mr. chairman okay next we will proceed to the procedures for rezoning mr. Stein's matter please review the procedures for zone there are two rezoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the Board Board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff for Planning Commission is recommending denial or if there is opposition of the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be proved by a single motion as those if you wish to speak to any petition please give you a name and address and whether or not you've been sworn the record these are quasi-judicial public hearings the law in Florida is the near public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria or rezoning found within okay so if you plan to speak today if you could stand so I can swear you in stand and raise your right hand if you plan to speak this afternoon okay thank you do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're that the testimony you are about to give is the truth so help you God great thank you very much when you do come to the podium please state your name and address for the record thank you so much okay we'll start with p3 do we have proof we do have proof thank you Tampa Bay Times June 22nd 2018 good afternoon commissioners Denise Fernandes I'm p3 is conditional use 18 - 27 PDD 18 - see you 27 so the name of Patricia Weber Fesmire North American towers earth come services for a conditional use 495 foot above ground level monopole wireless communication facility in an AC district the applicant has requested a continuance of December

that I could have downsize my parcel to a different classification or have deep restrictions limiting through the amount of development that's what I will do as soon as possible my estimated portion no the paving is 45 thousand dollars if I choose your payment plan along with my taxes my payment would be 846 dollars a month for ten more years is that my time you still blood and with the insurances and living expenses I may have to sell the property that my parents wanted me and my family to live to continue to live on with no wishes ever to develop that just be family I thought eighth Avenue was a county road it thought that it had been built and maintained better than the pestle II wouldn't especially wouldn't have to be repaved I didn't know that repaving him would be different than maintained and told that but if you don't maintain it very well I mean other than just patching the holes with a little bit of basketball that probably would have been last one that's my speech I have a surgery I'd like to see the flood zone Commissioner hopefully in his situation Ansley maybe you can answer this if he puts on her restrictions where he can't divide it into those units yes then his amount will be reduced yes commissioner I just need supports and documentation and then I come back to the board and provide that and take care of that for him if that's what he wished that's the problem with some of us getting our see there's a too harsh on certain people and that needs to be done because he's not planning on developing that okay okay okay mr. chairman polished more I look at that - how many agree with mr. Oakley so but we're warning this to vote on this today but how can we mr. size you need you may need to jump in here how can we vote on this today until this is taken care of do we be able to go back so soon so if at the time of the assessment one of two things can happen if the ax time of the final assessment he's done everything that he needs to do he wouldn't be assessed for that okay for that map amount of money staff normally comes back with an adjustment now what happens is that p vash then has to pick up that chair because you can't redistribute it amongst the other residents unless you start the primary retronym right I understand that if he has you know with with him having these additional er years but which in reality he can't develop on its I agree about the person it's not fair you can't develop the land they're flooded out properties you know part of me I said there are two residences yeah you have to er me use this is 200 K resources ten they're gonna how many whatever kids you gonna get him away he mentioned Tim it was just ten they was just ten acres I mean dr jesus when he hit was how many I got you I get my talking once almost quick how many your use Oh twenty-eight oh yeah yes yes yes okay that's financial you can work with him and you take care of that every good and this isn't the first time we've seen this I know you fans he's done a good

job work there's this is probably third one I've seen we had this kind of issue I thought we brought it back so now we approved it we go back and look we have printed things they were able to fix it and then we just absorbed it cost because what's gonna happen is everybody else it's here maybe that's in favor we'll see in a minute there got to pay more as well but this is just happening on point history when we did that be vaginal okay thank you sir yep thank you all right hello my name is Leon Wilson I own property at 37 734 eighth Avenue I'm not opposed as a paving which mr. Oakley knows we came to the workshop mr. Steeves in either which of the matter is just up here it's just how it was being presented and I don't I'm against it based on the fact that it would have been nice if the people like myself or Gary or the rest of us would have been able to at least devote on a petition like 20th Street because they brought up 20th Street that's how it was being compared to well twentieth Street the people got to vote where they wanted or not but we don't get to vote we have to ask you can we present look at our side of it and I'm gonna prefer you know to be able to vote on a petition whether it goes through or not in the way I'd like to have it I would sure like to see it's not put up here about the board and you do it for us because then we have no our only time is three minutes here in a workshop for an hour and I brought up some items at the workshop Ainsley has worked with me numerous phone calls mine was assessed originally at 21,000 in one letter than 29,000 his second letter I have four units on the property all of them are in the same what bloodstone but then we went back as mine was they are and they went back to 3.25 just a few days ago I've got it relieved back down to $5,000 but the biggest problem applies is one of the things workshop was a drainage and we have a drainage of the ladies upper basin and we have a culvert problem under that road we were assured at the workshop it's going to be taken care of but the ad in the Tribune we just ran said no drainage improvements so that's a ditch clean so the Commission ought to look at what they're going to do about that Kolbert and no minor dents or no headwalls it's seven foot deep right against the edge of the road and it would sure be nice if somebody whether it be Ainsley or whoever would look at that because that hasn't been addressed either I appreciate the time thank you sir as well you're going also to look at that cover we talked about that at workshop in terms of drainage improvements re and in terms of drainage improvements there's no drainage improvement but whatever existing drainage and our stop or the engineer would go up before we actually do the paving and for example collapse collapse call culverts or you know blocked drains ditches swales those things will be done before the actual thinking is done thank you that's very important okay so we've had this happen numerous times where

people down zone to avoid paying so many ER use and it seems to me we should take the time to really work through those before it's brought before that final amount is is out because then we're in a fixed stuck position so I'd really like I'd like to see you work with people who have multiple especially if it's an piece of AG land and they only have two houses on it and we're gonna head them with 45 er use no one's gonna keep it that way so let's get those prices right before you bring it to us that way to County you know and the rest of the taxpayers aren't eating the cost and we have a little more realistic spread of of how that fees being shared and and so if you downs up if you choose to downs own your property you can always up though knit later and then what will happen what will happen is if you if you up zone it then you pay the fee that you didn't pay before correct that's my understanding yes so the the landowner is protected and the public's protected I think that's a lot better to have that done ahead of time before the price is locked in there's a little more work on your site ahead of time is there a way we can do that prior to supreme watch we have privet than the number yards well I'm just sticking straight off the top of my head we'd have to declare to all the property owners you know you have the option of down zoning then one or two or ten our ever many will decide that they want a Down zone they were that the go through the process provide us with the information and we recalculate everything before we bring it bring it back to the board for a final the challenge here is when we send the initial letter out we give the maximum assessment so as I'd like to know if we need to look at that process okay I think that approval process we're going to look at in the near future is the B mass system the way it works and that's part of what we're looking at County Administrative Dan boughs and all of us have been talking about that issue and it's going 10 before pretty soon I think so that's a good thing okay all right thank you thank you okay I do not have anyone else signed up if you'd like to speak on the side oh please come forward motion carries thank you p9 we do have proof Tampa Bay Times August 17 2018 afternoon Bob Corey Pascoe County budget director the item before you is a hearing for the purposes of the federal tax equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act otherwise known as tephra and its required by section 147 F of the Internal Revenue Code 1986 as amended regarding the possible issuance by the Capitol Trust agency of one or more series of its senior living revenue bonds in aggregated principle amount not to exceed 275 million dollars as a way of background the American evil corporation which is a non-profit approach the capital trusts agency to borrow two hundred seventy five million dollars to purchase seventeen Senior Living facilities in eight different states one of which is the brookdale senior living facility in New Port

Richey although this is there's a transaction between two private companies in order to issue tax-exempt bonds two things must happen per the IRS code first is that the Commission must agree to the transaction and secondly there must be an opportunity for a public hearing to give the public the opportunity to weigh in on the transaction as the Commission is aware but for the purposes of the folks at home and the folks in the audience none of this money involved in this transaction is County running there are no costs involved to the county as part of this deal and there is no obligation legal or otherwise on the part of the county should the applicant default on this moment with that mr. mayor mr. chair that's all I have if there are no questions from the board I'd like to have been someone here okay this is a public hearing I do not have anyone signed up for p9 if you'd like to speak on p9 please come forward p10 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times August 17th and August 24th 2018 good afternoon Heather wolf real property planning the real property planning team has received a petition to vacate Hillcrest Preserve plat phases 1 & 2 submitted by mmm LJ Holdings LLC the subject vacation area contains six hundred and thirty eight point two eight six acres more or less and it is located on the north side at State Road 54 to the east of Bellamy Brothers Boulevard and west of old path day 452 sorry I beg pardon fifty two the rights of way that were previously conveyed to Pasco County and the Florida Department of Transportation along State Route 52 and Bellamy Brothers Boulevard together with a southern portion of grapevine Parkway will not be vacated there are no objections to this petition and the team recommends approval this is a public hearing I do not have anyone signed up for P ten if you'd like to speak on P ten please come forward say no approval favor all right motion carries P 11 metal four we do have advertisement in the Tampa Bay Times June 1st 2018 good afternoon Tammy Snyder I bring for you the Estates at Fort King employee D currently zoned r3 proposes rezoning request from an art three medium density residential zoning district district to an MPEG master plan unit development to allow 145 single-family detached units on approximately 50 acres the minimum lot sizes proposed or 40 feet wide for the interior Lots 50 feet wide for corner Lots there's the master plan if you let that mic up just a little bit thank you there you go what's this one make sure everyone can hear presently the subject site contains a barn and pasture land and the surroundings Oneidas zoning districts existing land uses and future land uses future land uses red six all the way around the zoning districts are a are all the way around with some are three to the north and the uses are residences and farmland and Fort King Road the proposed development is located in the East Market area the site is approximately 50 acres

contains approximately two and a half acres of category three wetlands they have a developable acreage of approximately forty seven and a quarter which under the existing future land use category could allow up to six dwelling units per developable acre and that would be a potential 284 units the applicant is just proposing three dwelling units per acre for a total of 145 dwelling units the project is exempt from timing of phasing because it's currently approved for 100 single-family units under the rezoning petition 6262 in April of 2005 they're just proposing an additional 45 single-family detached units which would add less than 50 peak hour trips the proposed request is consistent with the land development code and the Comprehensive Plan PPV recommends approval of the rezoning request with conditions okay thank you any questions for with the applicant please come for good afternoon Barbara Wilhite 2523 permit place and forward to Florida three four six five five four the applicant staff that's going through I think shows you what the land use density is for this property it's a potential of the two hundred eighty four units red six land use our proposed density is about half of that two point nine three there's our three zoning to the north which is about five point eight units per acre which allows five units per acre there's our to the east four point six units per acre and the zoning to the north of the north parcel off two parcels up which is 12 units per acre if you look at the area where this is there's a hospital to the north there's school high school to the north there's a reason why your complaint has it at red six and it's a reason why you see the we have rent r3 and r2 in the area this is the water and sewer will be provided by Dade City our traffic engineer can present if you have any questions on rebuttal to discuss the transportation facilities that are in place and the capacity again this is if there's a reason why your complaint says red six because that's because its facilities are there and that's where you want to put your density you're at three units per acre what your complan says is the minimum amount to have water and sewer your comp plan prioritizes the investment in water and sewer and says in those areas we want to see a density of at least three units per acre and so it's not a surprise that the very bottom of that density just like when we talked about the golf course conversion we're right there the three because we've minimized the density we won't still have a feasible project this property was zoned in 2005 with an r3 zoning on it from medium density residential district I was here in 2005 when this this project came before and as you will hear from the neighbors there was a drainage concern a drainage concerned then 2005 and adrene is concerned now what's different between 2005 and 2008 een is that in 2005 the board really struggled and they were getting tired of struggling with zoning issues and

drainages only drainage so he's a maximum amount of density it's not what you can actually develop what you actually develop is determined by applying the land development code and complying with the land allotment code so what the board initiated shortly after and actually in connection with this project was a drainage basin a special concern ordinance it was adopted this this project was approved in the zoning was approved in April of 2005 in the summer of 2005 is when you adopted your drainage basin a special concern ordinance the board heard these neighbors concerns and and put stricter requirements so as we come forward now in the year 2018 this project has to comply with those standards not only they have to comply with standards but there was actually a study the tank-like study was done James based and special concerns study so the modeling and all of those types of things that the engineer can explain much more better than me has there's already been a study that sets those things so a lot has happened neighbors can't see it because this property is not developed but when this property is developed at three times the requirements do other development projects that don't have drains based on special concerns they'll see it and the engineer will we'll go through and explain actually briefly I mean if you want more information if you always provide it kind of explain how you know twenty nine percent of the projects going to be ponds and drainage the transportation we do have a transportation engineer here can if that becomes an issue and with that I'm going to let you public comment scuse me and make available let me actually may have my drainage engineer come up real quick and just kind of explain drainage to you before you hear public comment cuz I think it'll be helpful good afternoon Commission my name is Jeremy couch with Tampa civil I'm at one seven 937 hunting for a circle sweet one two and Lutz bless you and you have been sworn I have been sworn thing thank you as Miss will had stated the neighbors concerns that we know right now are primarily centered around drainage so I just kind of want to give the board a simple explanation as to what our plan is to deal with drainage and then I can answer more specifically if you have specific questions about it so I'm gonna put stuff on the ELMO I have some exhibits so so the first thing I'm going to show you is the FEMA map for this area I'm sure that the board has seen FEMA maps plenty of times you'll see we are it's referred to in the code as tank Lake the Swift mud study calls it duck Lake so when I say those two we're going to talk about them interchangeably if you look to the top right of the screen the blue hatched area that is tank Lake that flood zone extends far to the east we are on the outside of it and the majority of our property is not within it this is an area of the county that has a lot of slope to it the next map I'm going to show you is this is a contour aerial map and

essentially our site is if you look in the middle of the page there's a little circle to the right-hand side that's the low portion of our site and what happens right now is there's a large hill the water runs down off of the hill through our site into that low area in conjunction with that the flood zone that you saw that's on the other side of Fort King backs up into our site so the neighbors you know they're concerned but I prefer it is you're gonna dump more water on us that's that's the biggest concern we're higher than them you know their fear is we're gonna dump more water on as Miss Wilhite stated Pasco County has a special section of the code called basins of special concern a typical development we deal with a 25 year storm which is about an eight inch rainfall over one day what your code does and it's it's one of the most restrictive if not the most restrictive that I've seen in the entire temp of my metro is it makes us analyze a 24 inch deep storm over ten days so that's back-to-back rains that they're really hammered and what we have to do is we have to ensure that we're not going to put any new volume downstream so essentially regular development captures the water slows it down and slow releases this particular project we're gonna catch it keep it and it's never going to go downstream so I'm going to kind of show you a conceptual development plan just so that I can talk about how we're going to do that and of course this is going to be reviewed by your engineers this is also going to be reviewed by the swift mud so essentially there's almost a hundred acres that comes down off the hill that's very steep it rushes quick it goes through our property and goes to the top right and there it co mingles with the water from tank Lake and backs up those four what we're going to do is we're going to catch the water upstream so anything that's coming in to us along with water from our development we're going to pipe it and we're gonna put it up in area two that area is going to be about ten foot deep it's going to be a dry retention area and we're gonna keep it there we're not gonna let it go downstream that's the simple concept of what we're doing in addition to that in area one area one if you see the black circles today that's about where the water sits the heavy black circles we're going to dig out around that so we're going to reduce the water that's going there considerably and then we're going to give more area for the water to flood into so we're going to reduce the water and give it a new area to sit that's the concept of what we're gonna do here it's not that complicated in doing that we are just a small part of the overall tank lake though 150 acre project is not going to fix the flooding that happens downstream but we are going to do our little part and our little part is to put in infrastructure trap the water and keep the volume we're not going to slow-release we're just gonna hold it as Miss Will had stated about 30 percent twenty-nine percent right now of

our project is dedicated to drainage areas catching water holding water storing water typical development is usually somewhere between 12 and 18 percent you know so so we have a ton of drainage we're high on the hill we're gonna catch the water up on the hill and keep it up there that's the concept we're gonna go through regulatory review and we're gonna meet your code and I'm here if you have any specific technical questions thank you sir so listen to your statements are you are you saying that it would be better than what it is today in my opinion yes and I'm not here by myself today I also have two professional engineers from my company Ryan Hyman and Paul Phillips yeah this is what okay so their thought is better than possibly will be better than we believe works we believe under the code obviously it says it can't kill you can't divorce yes sir so what we did is we actually took the swift mud study beyond you know the common-sense approach that I just laid out for you we took the sweet mutt study and we put our new ponds in and we put our new impervious and our roads in and what we do show is a granite we're just a small tiny crumb of a giant piece of pie but we do show a reduction in our little area so we are making it better yes sir okay thanks mr. chairman and I and I did meet with the applicant a bit ago matter of fact while in that were the applicant never called mr. Cochin we did talk about the drainage a bit and the basin a special concern is a very good thing that the Commission did many years ago to try to help we talked a little bit about trying to tweak it a little bit more did you guys get to do any of those changes yes sir we actually did so if you look on the southeast corner we were going to put our Park in that area and actually so talk with the developer we're actually going to turn that into more storage more retention and we gave up Lots in the southwest corner initially before we had a cul-de-sac and some more Lots over there we actually eliminated that so we're going to move our Park back there and give more drainage on the east side of the property where it needs it so we're gonna remove the area that drains there and they give it more storage so what they had to do with the baseless pressure to thread that even go a little bit past that now and just maximize a little bit so thank you Thank You mr. chair for most 7:00 to 11:00 I was with governing board was with mine when we did this study and I was chairman swiftly 10:00 and 11:00 and we the tank like this water from this area will not move across that road it has to rise to go across it you're going to catch it I appreciate that I think you're thinking of that district of a special concern across the road there water deals with a with the tank leg issue and I figured out back in between Oh 7-eleven that if we set a culvert there on the railroad track bed at a certain height it would keep Hickory Hills property from flooding on that lower side yes sir and

it would naturally flow out of there reach out to the evidence properties family and I come up set some meetings to have with them again about that same issue they have always during emergency times allowed the county to go in and pump water over that riverbed to relieve those those houses sometimes the reason when you're pumping it gets behind and it's people flood so if that covert could be said at a certain level that water would just naturally flow out and go out to the green swamps like it should yes sir thank you for watching get it on on preparing that yes sir any other questions thank you well this is a public hearing we do have seven people signed up to speak so we have Laurie Larkin Jeff Richie Jackie German German Jimmy Oh Jeremy okay and then Barry you know it says the state's up 1412 524 Greenock but doesn't have a name so that person and then Jay Chamberlin angel angel oh okay so if you just come forward and Eddie Schultz and Darcy Martin or Doug Doug Martin me you guys keep ahead and line up that'd be great you don't have to line up in order just go ahead and come forward and your name and address for the record and if you miss Warren please Lori Larkin one two three two three four King Road I have been sworn in I have a vigilant to the property in question for development known as the estate of Fort King Ranch I have heard many times during the different meetings that I have attended the word the comprehensive plan allows for just because something is allowed does not mean it has to be done or should be done just because this land can be developed does not mean that it should well I cannot Forge the land owner for his desire to develop his land as it is his right a responsible of landowners should take a look around the surrounding properties and consider the neighbors in the surrounding area there is currently one home on at least three or more acres is proposed to increase the homes allowed on this property from 100 245 that is three homes per acre the type of development proposed does not fit in with this area the homes he will be building as post will be 20 feet from my property line with the current set ups a setback from our property line including our driveway of 300 feet would be ideal the average heights of a single-story home is 15 feet with each additional story 10 feet our home is 15 feet high based on the proposed 35 but at home height it is realistic to expect that these homes could be three-story homes and taller than my home the height of these homes needs to be restricted to 15 feet as it stands now with the proposed development I will not be able to look out of any window in my home or sit on my front porch or my back porch and not see a house that the landowner has developed think about that not one window or porch how would you feel if this was being developed around your home the traffic that this development will add to the already congested working room will be a nightmare I

cannot imagine adding at least 290 vehicles to an already crowded Road if you allow 145 homes according to the site plan the entrance to the development will be just south of the curve on both King Road this curve is a dangerous area and it would be more so with additional traffic how any of us who live close to this development be able to safely pull out of our driveways the turn lanes the developer keeps mentioning are not going to solve this problem you the commissioner the commissioners are to represent and look out for the citizens concerns not just the developers the attorney representing the landowner does not live here the landowner himself does not live here the engineers do not live here they call elsewhere home they get to develop the property with little regard to those who actually call this town home the people speaking to you now are you have to deal with the issues than they are going to leave behind unless you decide otherwise restrict them to their original 100 homes with the conditions on setbacks and home heights thank you thank you how you doing Jeff Richie 12 509 green Oak Lane Hickory Hills I have been sworn in it's not just the flooding that's an issue with this neighborhood it's the traffic you know there's no sidewalks to the high schools to the middle school you know you have goalies or coverts on both sides of the road mr. Oakley you live on for King you know put that neighborhood next to yours you know at the wrong time of the day it's hard enough to get out of our neighborhood they're not looking at stop signs they're not looking at signals you have the hospital right there you have people that don't even stop as it is for somebody trying to get into the hospital in your emergency vehicle for that matter you know you have kids that are walking along the side in the the culverts Gideon tomb from school because buses are strict time if they play sports and their parents are still in school they're walking there and now we want to add another forty five homes on top at the hundred that's a lot of traffic and at the end of the day it could be a lot of lives if we don't look at it thank you thank you sir good afternoon my name is Jackie Germaine I've been sworn and I live in Hickory Hills and I live in tank Lake Basin there was flooding in 1987 there was flooding in 2003 there was flooding in 2004 and in 2015 we had plants the issue here doesn't isn't just that we flood there are other issues that go along with the flooding on Green Oak Lane the entrance to our streets floods we actually are encircled by the water the only way in and the only way out is by a high-profile deal if you don't have a vehicle that has tires about this big and about this time you're not going to get in now in 2004 we had people wearing waders with children on their shoulders wading out of greener plane to get to their car so that they could go to work I oppose the increase in this the density of this development because although there are a lot of models that

have been done computer models that show that this water is going to be held back on their property and it's going to go with the natural flow and it's going to drain down and Clinton into a pond I don't believe that much of nature really pays attention to all of these models and when those when they breach those ponds with the water that we're already hold and I appreciate mr. Oakley that you meant the ovens property owners and working with them and this tonight they're other but there is no there's no guarantee that Evans will give us the right away to lower the culverts on the railroad bed and to construct an outflow ditch they have resisted in the past perhaps sir you can convince them this time but when those ponds overflow and they only have one way to go and that's down into tank lane basin what are you gonna do for us beasts besides bringing paws and that's always after the fact and people have lost homes I know I'm over my time oh you're fine but I I just want you to look at the overall picture and something that we've been told from time to time having to do with this is that when we want that railroad bed open they tell us we can't flood faithful down strength but when we're being flooded there isn't anybody that comes to us and advocates for us and I really wish you would be our advocates good afternoon my name is Mary McLeod one two five to fall renew clean deeds in Florida I have been a victim twice at flooding yes it's work sorry thank you twice I have been flooded you have heard it all and it is true I just want to say I want to place my trust faith in you with this project that we won't be flooded we know we heard it before they did not want to do with the color but because they covet what impact downstream I haven't done my homework I do not know who owns downstream or what it is but I think it's time that we look at the land and see what we have this area is was a leak mr. Oakley you can tell that right there places that we have built the shed under windows so I would like to place my trust in you but you will keep us safe and dry thank you thank you hi my name is Jan Chamberlin I live at one two four five one four King Road I'm up here because I'm gonna plead for calming it down I'm gonna plead for common sense here if as anybody here we've been to the psychic do you know what we're talking about anybody exactly and that's right and that's the that's the whole lack of common sense that I've seen go through this thing we all showed up for the Planning and Development meeting and we might as well been talking to dead fish up there they stood there and just roll their eyes and this in that and nobody listened to what we had to say that was insulting at the least now my biggest problem here is there are new houses going up around this development that all have five acres or more maybe three acres I don't understand why you're going to take something like that and smack down put it in the middle of an existing

neighborhood I understand the man has a right to build his property but the problem is you didn't take into effect and neither did planning and zoning that people already own five to ten acres there it's an established neighborhood this is where we move to get away from that I mean that's it just doesn't make any sense we've got a hospital right down the road we've got a high school right down the road and they want to go and take that one road that we all live on that we all use and shut it down because you're gonna have to shut that road down at least till one lane restriction while they build this and build that there you can't do that that's not common sense and the one thing that nobody's brought up no you're the one thing because we are all on the well water here and I know that when there was a new house going in right next to that property my well got funky for a while this is residential of building like that with all this to breathe going into that wetlands that could be where we pulled our water from that's not fair to all of these people that are here that are so against us I'm not I'm just asking for common sense somebody take a look at this and say this is not common sense because you're gonna hear from a lot of us here today I can tell by the line behind me and a couple of ones who haven't signed in yet we're just asking for common sense okay thank you hi my name is Betty Jean Perez and my husband Edward Perez we live at 1 2 4 3 1 14 Road our property is adjacent to this property on the other side under the north immediately north and there is a fence there's our road and there's our property and when it rains in that that uh pond gets full it has no place else to go other than above ground ok they said they're going to go ahead and they're going to put they're gonna put make that bigger and it's gonna be like seven acres there to hold the water and they're gonna have another section where they're gonna have two acres and it's gonna be ten feet down and all that after that fills up where is it going I can tell you where it goes it seeps through the sand and it comes into my property I've got a picture we we did yesterday's of the waters already seeking going through and it's it's a shame that pond cannot hold all that what they're gonna do I can guarantee you it's not gonna hold when that water comes down off those hills it comes down like a river I'll rush you rushing rivers and it literally can destroy it's destroyed our Roseville we've had to build up our Road and everything when there's an easement it's our it's our property we pay taxes were just our driveway for all of us to get it and we pay taxes on it you can see where the lake see the water there on his already overgrown it's all the way up to a fence line mending the fence it broke through and that's what you got it's already a mush area and it gets any higher than that we've had our land in 2005 I believe it

was moving at that big rainstorm to done climate 2006 it flooded half of our property the road was completely underwater because it had no place else to go this is what it looked like yesterday and this is just regular summer winds we can deal with that but if they put houses and there's cement there that water doesn't have time to absorb this is gonna just keep going and going we know that they have already approved for 100 home 145 forget it what they mean is more storage and they're talking about a five foot burn from my pencil right there over minimum four do t usually ten feet so that you can allow then the for the one beyond that but they need to build it up right at that fence line to keep the water on their side and can't contain it they're not doing this they're not you're gonna have to remove dirt anyway to make it bigger they need to make a firm that's higher than that elevation right here and when the corner I bought relatives can we take a little more code where two people [Laughter] it's it's just machine what's going on down there and no everybody keeps saying oh it's gonna be common sense they're gonna put in more drainage things and all common sense is you don't put 145 houses crammed you don't poke your husband with that pen it's just it's gonna continue going down it has no place to purge and the water needs to perk and when it's like that it's not gonna perk up and sit there and keep going up just to put a nice point on through the drainage engineer a guy he did a good job and a good presentation I mean it really looked great but that the calculation that they make is when everything it was really low and basically dry you get 24 inches after all this water has come in a hair pink it's gonna be on our property thank you very much thank you thank you my name is Eddie Schultz I loaded 1 2 5 104 King Road my property is on the east side of working directly across from subject property there's a lot of things been said today you know I would have said to him but I've been in the real estate business for 48 years I've during that period of time I felt number of subdivisions largest ones our units I can tell you the very first thing that we do my engineer and I we have a piece of ground one of the first things we try to figure out where the water's going and we're trying to figure out how fast that rotary is going to go there I do believe the fact that the engineers have done a good job trying to come up with a solution for handling both of those types of situations a chant the one thing though that I would say to you is what the last couple said to you I think you'll receive some pictures yesterday about lakes there are pieces of ground that had a lot of water on their particular pond was I would say probably 50% higher or bigger than it was just a week ago two weeks ago we got six and a half inches of rain the one that you saw across the street that one is probably at least 75 to 100 percent bigger over a one-week period so there

is a real concern about the ability for the water to actually be absorbed and if we have those standing we have a stand water there the problem is let's say he's got a to and after the reception area it's got a foot of water in it now sudden his calculations have to basically take care of - an a feet of water he Canada there's already a foot sitting in there now you know if you go Mike I went by Clinton the other day when I went over to see the young engineer there was a foot and a half to two foot of water in the Clinton dryer tension pond so it doesn't take much to be able to put that in there the question is how fast and be absorbed and when one of my neighbors asked me to say something today I'm pronouncing something in 2004 he's right behind me in 2004 he couldn't get out of his house for six months because of the fact that the water just stayed there he had to face if you go back through a neighbor behind him in order to get in and out there was no emergency services allowed back in there he said the fact that he told him they said if I get hard to take what has he said well we can't help you you know he had no yeah he had no bathroom facilities because unfortunately the septic things that we have there are basically now flooded so there's other things other than just the technical side of the engineer I know that again from my own personal experience and the one thing that I would like to say is y'all had an agreement in fact the UV studied a lot you had an agreement to basically fix the tank link situation the question is whether or not you're going to move forward and being able to do this once and for all let's you know we've got two two piles up here how long those bath tubs like tank link is I'd want to have my Hall down just like I would my bathtub down towards the bottom we can't wait for the water to get way up here before it starts going out over the top of this anyway I appreciate it very much thank you thank you sir good afternoon my name is Cheryl Musgrove and my mom is also here but she has mines dania gravis I don't know if you know what it is but she's she's sitting in the back her name is Martha damron I am speaking for her even though I live in Hickory Hills her name is Martha damron her address is 1 2 2 3 1 14 Road in Dade City her property is where the curve of Fort King is right in front of Hickory Hills and I believe the traffic will funnel down into right where her draw at the beginning of her property so it will affect her and she's 75 years old this year sorry I didn't bring my glasses so I'm working on it she's lived there since 1987 I was actually in high school and I was sworn by the way she moved there in 1987 with my dad who's now passed she as a widow lives by herself she has standing water and her property now and there's been no big flood there's been no big storm there's been regular rain and regular thunderstorms that happen all the time

there's a negative impact on the water drainage for the people when you put that much concrete it's got the water's gonna stop or it's gonna go around you know water goes wherever it goes there's no stopping it when it wants to go somewhere something no one has mentioned with all these retention ponds is stagnant water stinky water mosquitoes disease all that's going to happen we don't have that now because the water can actually see when you take a lot of water in one area and dig straight down the water can't their saturation issues they're not going to pump it off and try to get it into the rest of the land at all they're going to literally let it sit in one spot when it's full up and more rain comes what's gonna happen it's only got so much space to go and it sounds like a lot but when it sits there and sits there and sits there and then more rain comes but we have two or three storms in a row or a couple hurricanes because we're getting in a hurricane season what are you gonna do going from a hundred to one hundred forty-five homes is a lot it's gonna impact traffic you've got the arbors less than a mile away there's a hover a hundred homes there they try to have more we stopped it there's the date city bus garage for Pasco County there's the football games with the high school there's graduation there's car collaboration there's Hickory Hills there's over 150 homes in there that's right there at the other way it bottlenecks right there across where my mom lives and where Hickory Hills is 150 homes you want to live in Hickory Hills it used to be the Javita but not anymore now we're gonna have crazy parking the overflow water is going to go where it's going to go and it's going to go down to Green Oak Lane that hasn't been fixed flooding plans are nice but if they don't work real people's lives and older homes are at risk of flood damage and loss the surrounding properties are all over three acres and have one house except for the arbors this area is in the rural farming community and one last thing the number of homes approved is already too many but they are approved but this panel can stop any increase so everyone can try to survive all the effects of this panel's decision thank you [Applause] my name is Kathleen shrimp my address is one two four five seven for king road and I have been sworn I also share the access road that Betty and Jeanne that Betty Jean and Eddie talked about I live just north of that property and as you can see we've got a picture on the on the overhead that picture is what it looked like in 2005 across the bottom edge of the property you're talking about developing I realize that that water didn't all come from the property you're developing that's overflow from tank Lake can you please put the next one on that's the view going down our road going north going west and as you can see the the portion on the right-hand side there that's my neighbor's field that was completely flooded and the next picture

that's our side of the road we you know our road was enveloped it was flooded we had no access to public services or emergency services I understand that the engineers were very kind to have us to a meeting a few weeks ago where they explained their drainage problems and what they wanted to do to mitigate it I understand they're not responsible for the entire flooding issue in this area however I'm not confident that what they're doing isn't going to at least exacerbate the problem we have coming from both directions they'll be covering the hillside with concrete and roads and the drainage ponds and mitigations that they have in place may help they probably will help but what I would like to propose is that you don't approve this until you actually have the state look at and Swift mud and look to see if they're mitigations are really going to help because I really think there's a problem here and you're gonna make it worse so in addition to that I agree with all the comments about the traffic that's a very it's getting more and more dangerous to get out and try to turn either way on for king road oh you're gonna have at minimum have to add stoplights there so um that's that's it for me thank you for your time thank you good afternoon Nancy hayswood three four one one Oh a nice place I have not been sworn okay can you raise your right hand do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give us the truth so help you God I did thank you 2004 I was in Hickory Hills I saw the devastation it did to the citizens there that's one reason we're in Venice one of the reasons I became interested in government being a base and a special concern there's still problems they are not fixing the basement of special concern completely until that is done please don't put your citizens at risk it's you're there to protect them please help them in this case and make sure that they're flooding problems are completely taken care of that there's no risk whatsoever of this ever happening again thank you thank you raise your right hand do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth so help you God yes okay thank you I'm Tim berry I will live at 12 501 for King Road we owned the property since 98 I've motocross track at the top of the hill and since this has been an ongoing issue now we're seeing this thing rise again I feel like they're gonna do a good job at stopping that water what I see is really tank legs the problem because I washed it not being able to get to my property to come through Judy streets a couple offense to get back home with my house the water came under four came across the presents property and then to the pond with their showing under math ones and their property the only thing I think is that well if they trap everything there that's fine but when tank Lake backs up will Perez appropriate everybody else is gonna sell for Hickory Hills probably the most if they're already floating more so I kind

of see Hickory Hills is being really the the bad area and something you guys need to look into because I think they're doing a good job at keeping their water and the property but they're actually gonna fly that green hills more and I've been here since 2000 so I've seen it all along with the neighbors we got well into over tens of thousands of dollars in that road building up that's now this high I said he said Eddie's only that high so Hickory Hills that definitely issue in my opinion add to the roads I have kids I'd love for them to be able to walk to school to the high school if we are going to go in this direction I think it's very important to start giving the community you know the sidewalks and the safety that you know that that all the other growing towns out as well thank you thank you would anyone else like to speak please come line up ass up behind this young lady hi I have not been sworn in oh great you're like does anybody else need to be sworn in that hasn't been sworn in if you could stand thank you and raise your right hand do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth so help you God yes I did okay and the rest of you need just hear yes or no okay whoever's going to speak on the side interviews lineup it lays up my name is Sheila Tomlinson I live at one to six four nine green Oak Lane in Dade City and I moved into my home in 2004 and was totally unaware of the flooding issues that they were happening within two months we had our hurricanes come in I was the mother of twin daughters that everyday I had walked with my children on my shoulders and with and waist-deep water so we'd go to school and work every day for over a month that was because we didn't have access in and out of even just our street the water came up in our backyard and since then I done the investigation along with my neighbors and finding out there is a solution we've been discussing this for years and years and years and we all know the solution but we've asked that no more homes be built until it's taken care of we're now looking at going from like an increase of 50% more homes is what mr. Bober is looking for to increase to go from a hundred to a hundred and forty five that's a lot of roof that's a lot of cement that's a lot of driveways that's a lot of sidewalk that's a lot of property cement pavement and the aesthetics I understand that we're in a rural area but it's already been zoned a hundred god bless them let him go ahead and build his hundred homes but we had asked that our situation be taken care of before more homes were being built in that we already know that it is a special interest Basin there was approval done between swiftlet and Pascoe County for six hundred three thousand dollars that was never we don't know where the money went and if it was ever fixed I found documents that show that they were going to move it from where Mr Evans property is the culvert to not fix them there but go downstream near Wilson Road we don't

know if that's ever been taken care of I have some of those documents with me now and we would just like this situation resolved as all our neighbors say we've only been having regular summer rain it's already up in my backyard I'm on two acres and it's getting to the point where it's half of my neighbors behind me can't even get out of their homes so just want the consideration and have the problem fixed thank you thank you hi everyone good afternoon my name is Doug Martin I've been sworn in I believe this date City one two four five three four King Road please cast my appearance as dissenting the proposal to rezone this acreage from our three medium density residential district to in PUD master Planned Unit development I'm a couple of ideas I live on 25 acres just to the north near Eddie Perez and when I moved in everybody just told me about the flooding in this neighborhood and how they had to have a four-wheel drive vehicle to get up our road and people actually had to use little boats to get to the east side of Fort King for King right now is just a two-lane highway there's no sidewalks or anything although it's near the high school and I can understand this place is ready to be developed within the Northwest Passage a rural plan that's meant to preserve the rural lifestyle large farms and ranches that were surrounded by we understand they could be claimed by high-density subdivisions we understand growth is good but I'm saying please don't change the zoning if it's already gonna be a hundred let's with that thank you for your time thank you sir good afternoon I'm safe my name is Sara Santa Corona and I live on twelve five 2614 Road I had a teenage spell that I'm sorry could you spell that Araceli they are a c e Li okay karana C ou R oh and a thank you I live in 12 five 2614 Road and I have 10 acres and out of those ten acres seven acres are already flood and in 2004 we had a way out and I think you really need to think about when you approve in this you know plants because it's gonna hurt us I mean I can tell you my seven acres so you can do every tension pond and we can fix some of the problem so just think about it I mean we put in our trust on you loop and I see that he's looking at me go see my property okay but I'm really concerned because like they say they have health issues I have health issues and we need had a way out we had to go and back a neighbor to let us get out through their properties because I mean we were fraud we were not able to go to work for a couple days we I think we were flood in our property for about six months or more I get most of the water that comes from tank lake so just going visit me and I can show you what I'm talking about because I know some of y'all don't don't even know what's living in uh in that area okay thank you thank you my name is steve bourie my address is 12 4:01 for King Road my property directly abuts on the north side of their property excuse me could you repeat your last name our e is thank you I don't I

agree with everyone and everyone's talking about the water and I've heard all that my issue is more of the 40-foot boundaries on the property and the property at 145 Lots become a low-income becoming rundown I don't think they'll be able to get the money that they want to get for the for the property excuse me and that's my concern I haven't anyone's issues with that but around us it's all bigger Lots it's all acreage and I just see that in the middle becoming a problem with 40 foot Lots that's my issue I haven't heard anything else about that so thank you thank you sir okay is that anybody else like to speak in asylum okay seeing no one the applicant would like to come back for mr. Jim just push it a staff first it's gonna take the question on our agenda item it says on April 26 2005 the board approved a rezoning from a our zoning district to our three and they had requested initially our floor with a camp of 100 dwelling units correct later on our agenda on item E it says that because less than 50 additional peak hour trips are generated that they're exempt from any timing and phasing analysis correct I don't know why if we made an approval based upon a hundred units and the board was comfortable with that that that gets an automatic bump up for 45% well who's who's the person above you to ask well Essen cool did the you put the microphone up please thanks Essen Khalil I believe is the one that did the staff responsible for the determination we need we need something to answer yes thank you thank you will poon current planning like he had mentioned earlier the requirements in the code does it exceed the the trip required it's less than 100 peak trips and in this case it was 50 peak treat that was there for its success at Krakow I'm sure the traffic consultant can expand further on that just uh analysis Barbara Wilhite so yes under the code we weren't required to do any traffic analysis but I attended the Planning Commission and heard the traffic concerns we had a meeting with the neighbors primarily focused on drainage and going through the details of the drainage what we heard about traffic so we had mr. razor do an analysis and do counts and go out there so I'd like for him to present what he did good afternoon Michael racer for the record one nine zero four six Bruce B nouns Boulevard number 308 Tampa Florida and they have been sworn the president of Razer transportation consulting registered professional engineer with twenty plus years of experience with a specialization in traffic and I have been before this board several occasions I'd like to start by indicating that many times traffic complaints are subjective in nature based on perception so what we have done to address the community comments received at the meeting were to perform a quantitative traffic analysis that's based on traffic counts comparing the results to the quantitative measures

in the land development code the capacity of Fort King Road is approximately eleven hundred and twenty vehicles per hour based on FDOT criteria for that type of Road the existing traffic volume out there today during peak hours is about 650 that puts it at a level surface C which is maybe near your standards with this project in place that number would go from about 650 up to 720 which is still level service C that's an increase from about sixty percent of its available capacity to using about sixty five percent of its available capacity so in either case with or without this development meeting the that comp plans level service criteria and no degradation level service associated with a development project in addition we looked at the ability for this project at 145 units to access Fort King Road as we understand that there were issues from the community with being able to get out on to Fort King Road and at a hundred and forty-five units we identified that the egress level of service is also at sea with a delay that's about ten percent of what your code would allow so in doing this traffic analysis again based on concerns we heard at the neighborhood meeting we identified that this project would fall within all the parameters required by the land development code if we were subject to a traffic study the specific question mr. Mariano in regard to the timing and phasing study for a discretionary proven such as an MPD the determination of a need for a traffic study is based on the increase in trip so at one hundred units the trip generation was let's say it was about was about 100 it's about one to one so about 100 peak hour trips at 145 it's about 145 peak hour trips mmm-hmm the determination for the need for a traffic study at a discretionary approval level is 50 so this discretionary approvals would result in 45 additional peak hour trips there for below the 50 that would require that the formal traffic study but what we've done is very similar to the information that would be gathered for that and I'll be here for any questions if you have them and we're going to traffic thank you are we gonna have them do rebuttal then take our comments or do you want us to make comments that then you come back okay cuz I answer myself so I hope that that answers the traffic question and we went above and beyond the code and engaging mr. razor so that he could review the actual situation given the concerns of the neighbors you also heard about miss Larkin talked about 35 feet that's the maximum height the property is currently zoned r3 and the maximum height is 35 feet so there's no change proposed there the I also heard are concerned about setbacks the r3 current zoning today's setback is 15 feet our proposed minimum setback is 10 feet I've talked to the engineer and will match what the proposed zoning has today which is 15 feet so we will we will be obligate ourselves as a change here to our plan to 15 foot min and setback to suppose the 10 that we have proposed

right now so it'll match the existing zoning there is a comment quite a few comments about sidewalks our project will not all will have internal sidewalks but we're also do the sidewalk on Fort King Road along our frontage so we will pre providing for sidewalks the county will have to pick up and do off of our project but we are doing our part and we're meeting the requirements again if I know you here you know keep it at the same density that that is around it but the reason why your comp plan focuses forward is because to provide the infrastructure you hear those flooding there's no sidewalks there's all these issues that is why your comp plan requires and says this is where we're going to have done so that we can provide a project that has exceeds the drainage requirements that has sidewalks that has infrastructure has streetlights and all those things that your code now requires so the other comment we've heard it's a rural area and you heard the Northeast Pasco plan cited it is not a rural area it's a it's an area that you have designated for four red six land use six units per acre the ski if there's anything else that I tried to make notes I think I hid all the items that we mentioned to you if you have any questions I'm available project engineer to be able to come back up and talk about drainage again or any other items you might have the other thing I would add was is that not only will we match the setbacks in the zoning today but we put in a minimum lot size of 40 by 100 the client is proposing to 50-foot Lots the reason why we put 40 in there is because when we would do rezoning with a larger minimott size and then the market would change then we were back amending and having addressed a free review but we're fine with making up 50-foot Lots fifty by a hundred with 15-foot setbacks they won't be agreeable to a condition to do that we also have to comply with the drains Basin special concern ordnance there's not a specific condition written in our and our conditions of approval would be happy if that's added just to reinforce when the plan reviewers or reviewing that they know that it's a drainage basin special concern we can add that condition as well just on that point Barbara real quick so you would add that to the in beauty yes so that stipulation would be in the impede a that that and then when the reviewers are doing this I community to in the site plan they're reviewing it they can make sure along with Swift light because they'll be involved to know that the drainage would be better it's the same or better than it is today right that's correct I think it's a good idea to put in as a condition or they look for this routing right that makes me a lot okay so your so here well you're really knowing that in the MPD that's a thank you and they will not be low-income houses they'll be in the to mid to hundreds - hi - hundreds well mr. chairman that was so my concern was the 40-foot lots but

50 foot I'm much more comfortable with and I think as the area as landowners come in with development eats each landowner will do their little part to help fix the flooding there but I am a little curious it's not doesn't affect your nope doesn't affect your project but I am curious about that Swift mud project if there was something there and it didn't get done but I guess that's a topic for another day but that I appreciate you going to the 53 and we're done next what you're referring to is the fact that in tank Lake we don't have that ability to across that river bed without the permission of the Evans family and I am working back with them again and there they've said there would listen so I'm gonna meet with them and try to be that worked out and explain to them why does it help them in 100-year floodplain it helps nobody in 100-year floodplain because all of date city's flooded yeah and 100-year floodplain but if that water can move as it comes into that area before it floods those homes Hickory Hills that is a great thing to solve a lot of those issues are having and it needs to be done it really needs to be - needed to be done ever since I was chairman Swift but back in 2010-11 so I realize that I've worked on it I understand it and I appreciated this development taking care of more than the waters you know as much water as they can coming down the hill and keep that for a little across area and the road for King wrote it is Rainey's right there development officer and maybe someone take a look at those seven acres there were disgusting is anybody I mean I do have some questions for staff about that I know the end lady brought up the $600,000 and about maybe like this with my project we can talk about that but it is important that we see something throughout there too right that sounds you know it's obviously been an issue for a long time just because that was offered but in the impunity added that stipulation that reference elisee not a suitable to that correct what we talked about earlier so you could add that to your motion yeah point two in and the 15th flex if a 15% I did foot loss which is the market today out there yeah it's not what it does it but they're going to play three staff they're gonna go through Swift but yet on this project all those issues will be looked at again another one is she was just speaking by numbers of bases a special exam right so w my god okay so you're so I've got this straight ending 19.1 for nineteen one which is the which says 40-foot to 50-foot your you're amending the section on setbacks [Music] to fifteen feet and you're adding the standard condition on a base in a special concern I'm twisting okay all in favor aye any opposed motion carries thank you p12 we do have proof of publication for EP 12 Tampa Bay Times August 15 2018 right - hey why everybody's walking now we're gonna take a five-minute recess

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