Board of County Commissioners · Afternoon Session
5.19.26 Pasco County Board of County Commissioner Meeting (Afternoon Session)
Tue, May 19, 2026
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0:29Yes. Dragging the rip around. Ma'am, you'll be able to go once. can't go till 11.
1:35Oh no, I got to negotiate with Newport Richie on Friday.
1:40The morning probably go afternoon.
1:42Yeah. Welcome back. Don't forget
2:12at your leisure. Let's do
2:30it. Good afternoon.
2:50We're going to continue the board meeting.
2:53Item P33.
2:55I think we're commissioner items.
2:57Oh, no.
2:58No, we do that. We do that after we do.
2:59Oh, after. Okay.
3:00Yep.
3:01So, P33,
3:03item P33 was published at the Tampa Bay Times on May 6, 2026. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. Item P33 is PD260031. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan. Uh providing for a coverage of plan amendment to the future land use map 3-15 and sheet 10 from res 1 to PD plan development on approximately 7.83 acres. Uh the request here is to continue the item to a date uncertain.
3:38Move to continue. Second.
3:41All in favor say I. I.
3:44Item P34. Approve.
3:47Yes, Mr. Chair. Item P34 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on May 6, 2026.
3:54Is that you? Sorry.
3:56He'll be back.
3:59Hi, Amy Frell, budget director with Paso County's Office of Management and Budget. P34 is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners repealing ordinance number 2547 that estab established a municipal service taxing unit for law enforcement in the unincorporated area of Pasco County, Florida, providing for the repealer. I won't read the rest. So, long story short, um we've been doing some work since November when the ordinance got established to figure out the specific mechanisms of the MSTU and there was some um milcap issues and limitations with city participation. And so now we're back with you in conjunction with the sheriff's office to repeal that ordinance. Um and so we are recommending that we wave the introduction of the ordinance, hold a public hearing, accept public comment, adopt the ordinance repealing ordinance number 2547 um and by roll call vote authorize the chair to execute the one original ordinance provided and direct board records to file a copy of the ordinance with the department of the state. Any questions?
5:02Any questions for staff?
5:05Okay.
5:05I I do chair Mr. Wman. Thank you, sir.
5:12It's a difficult one because we're going to have to do something. The current formula that we use today of 40% when you look at the budget pro projections getting closer to 2030 in my opinion are not sustainable. The volume of money that will be going here will be hitting will be bumping into $20 million a year increases for the department. No department in government sees increases like that and it's going to further handcuff our ability to do the other works that we're tasked with. So, I just think it's important that everybody keep an open mind and we still work together to find a funding solution to fund uh the sheriff's office. And uh but I don't think long term that the 40% model is sustainable. So I just share that that way I'm hopeful that everybody's brainstorming and that way we figure out how to keep, you know, our sheriff's deputies safe and funded and they have all the tools they need and we can recruit deputies and all, but we have to find a different formula to use that works for everything that we're obligated to pay for.
6:25I agree. I think this is just probably an opportune time to try to put this together with everything else going with legislature as well. Um changes coming up in the sheriff's office. May give us some alternatives that will help us a little bit.
6:36Sure.
6:37Appreciate you.
6:38Um Chase, could you could you um talk to this please?
6:46Thank you very much. Uh Chase Daniels, Under Sheriff Community Outreach, Pasco Sheriff's Office. Uh thank you very much, Commissioner. Uh as Amy noted, we have been working very closely with her and her team on this. We appreciate the board's discussion on this. It was certainly something that the sheriff the sheriff's office was fully in support of, but um understanding from talking to county administration in the cities that at this point the the path forward does does not look possible due to some of those millage caps and things like that. Um but we are certainly committed to this. We're committed to to finding a a better funding stream that that works for everyone. Um you know, keeps keeps our folks safe, keeps our budget uh growing as our community grows. Um but also allows you guys the flexibility to to do what you need. But but we're fully in support of uh some funding mechanism, but we also are are supportive and understand the uh the repeal of this today.
7:29Okay. All right. So, this is a public hearing. Is anyone here from the public to speak to this item?
7:35See, no one in the public. Anyone online?
7:37No one's online. And I I don't have a signup sheet, but I don't think anyone signed up.
7:41Okay. To the board.
7:42Move to approve.
7:44Second.
7:45There's a roll call.
7:46District one, Commissioner Oakley.
7:47Hi.
7:48District two, Commissioner Weightman.
7:49Hi.
7:49District three, Commissioner Starky.
7:51Hi. District four, Commissioner Joerger.
7:53I,
7:53District 5, Chairman Mariano,
7:55I 50. Item P35.
8:01Item P35 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on March 4th, 2026. The item was continued from the April 21st, 2026 BCC meeting to today.
8:12Item P35 is PD260446. Excuse me. Uh, it's an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners, amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, amending section 530.5, parking or storing of recreational vehicles, renaming section 530.5 parking or storing of recreational land vehicles and recreational watercraft. Amending section 101 docks and seaw walls section 101.4 visibility appendex A definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for replicability repealer providing for severability inclusion to the land development code and an effective date. Uh this comes with a rec with a request by the planning development economic growth department to continue the item to the July 14 uh 2026 board of county commissioners meeting in date city at 1:30 p.m.
8:58Okay. And I'd say I' like I recommend Terry that uh you get with the team and have have your meeting with each commissioner and review what's going on here because I think there's a lot of new stuff in there that we didn't talk about, didn't see, and I think needs to be addressed.
9:13Any other thoughts, comments? Well, I have asked um for staff to have a meeting with the industry that this is going to affect.
9:20I agree 100%.
9:22Both industries.
9:26Okay. Any further discussion? All right. So, this was advertised. Do I post both public comment or just offer it?
9:33I would. It's a legislative item. I would take any public comment that
9:38you might have on this item.
9:39Did anyone here want to speak to item P35? Okay. Okay. Is there anyone online to talk to P35?
9:46No one is online.
9:47Okay. So, it's to the board.
9:49Move to continue. Said no action. Right.
9:52Second.
9:52No, this this is a continuence.
9:54It's going to make action. So, it's different from us. So,
9:57it's a roll call for the continuence.
9:58No.
9:59Okay. So, you have a motion to continue. I have a second.
10:02Second.
10:03I second it.
10:04Okay. Sorry.
10:04Continuence to a time certain. Just
10:06And we are continuing to time certain. All in favor say I. I.
10:10I. Any opposed?
10:11Motion passes. Thank you. Item P36.
10:16Item P36 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on March 4th, 2026. The item was continued from the May 5th, 2026 BCC meeting to today.
10:29Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, members of the commission. Uh we are here to talk about land development code amendments to update the mobility fee schedules and uh to make other text amendments to simplify the code and streamline its implic it its application. The ordinance is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development Code section 1302.2 2 mobility fees to increase the mobility fees for various uses beyond the phasein limitations in section 1631801 paragraph 6 of Florida statutes to make other amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer providing for severability inclusion in the land development code and an effective date. As a very brief reminder, mobility fees pay for new transportation facilities. They are part of the four-legged stool that we use to pay for our roadway and transportation infrastructure. We also use gas taxes, penny sales taxes, and tax increment funds. A portion of our property taxes go toward constructing transportation facilities. The proposed fees in the fee schedule will cover approximately 25% of our just south of $7 billion cost of needed transportation facilities to support growth anticipated to occur in Pasco County. As a reminder, the proposed uh fees do exceed the statutory thresholds, but the state allows for that to occur subject to compliance with the four items on the slide in front of you. We need a recent study to justify the extraordinary ex uh circumstances for this increase. We have that. We need to have conducted two public workshops soliciting input on the proposed fee increases. We have done that. We need to implement the fee increases in at least two equal annual increments. The table does that. And lastly, we need the fees to be adopted by unanimous vote of the commission as a whole. So all five of you need to be present and supportive of the proposed fee increases in order for this ordinance to be adopted today. There are three outstanding questions that have come up in the discussion in the prior presentations. The first question is regarding the minimum lot size for a single family home in the rural areas to be granted a decreased uh a reduced fee to be able to pay instead of the rural lot fee they would pay the suburban lot fee. So first point I want to make is that our existing ordinance has the discount in place for any single family homes on a 5 acre lot or larger. Second point is this conversation only pertains to development within the rural area. The suburban areas already pay the reduced fees. So we're not talking about development within the purple areas. We're just focusing on area C on the map, the rural areas in the mobility fee ordinance. The board discussion previously was should we reduce the lot size minimum from 5 acres to 2 and a half acres to make additional homes eligible for the reduced mobility fee rate with if they are two and a half acres or more. We didn't get a final decision on this. So,
13:49I want you to understand the ordinance as proposed retains the 5 acre minimum and if there's a desire to change that then we would need the board to um ensure that that is a part of your motion adopting this ordinance.
14:01Mr. Chair,
14:02Mr. Shar,
14:03um do you want to open discussion when the commissioner wants to discuss a bullet point or do you want to wait till the presentation?
14:10Let's go through it because we we've gone through it before and then we should be able to get right back to it and hit one point by by the other. Yeah, let's let's go through and then we'll hit them.
14:20I only have two more slides.
14:22Okay.
14:22Yeah. Uh so this is item number one. The second item is a proposal to fully incentivize the construction of new golf courses within Pasco County. Current mobility fee structure says golf courses should pay based on the traffic impacts that they introduce onto our roadway system, the transportation impacts. And there was a discussion at the at the uh prior meeting regarding fully discounting new golf course construction and incentivizing the mobility fees that they would have paid. So we would essentially be zeroing out the fees to be paid by golf courses if the board is supportive of that request. The third item was a conversation of regarding fully incentivizing a an ice hockey complex with the complex being defined as an a project that has four or more ice hockey rinks within the project itself. The concept behind that was that these types of facilities at four or more ice hockey rinks are large enough to conduct a regional tournament and they function as an economic attractor and an economic development engine for Pasco County. and therefore it may be desirable of the board to incentivize these to 100%. The conversation also said that standalone ice hockey rink would continue to pay the standard rate according to its trans transportation impacts. So we have three outstanding questions. rural lot size, five acres or two and a half acres, fully incentivize golf courses, and fully incentivize this new land use called an ice hockey complex with four or more rinks. And at that, I'm asking the board to accept public comment and then either adopt as presented or adopt as you desire to modify in your discussion.
16:07Okay. So, we're going to we're going to have the board discussion before we go to public comment. So, if you will, let's go back to the 2 and 1 half acre 5acre slide, sir.
16:13Please. Okay. Commissioner Starky.
16:16Um, as I stated before, I'm probably not in
16:21That's not me.
16:22What was that?
16:23Um, probably not in favor of this. Um, I don't want to incentivize development at smaller lots in the rural area. Um, and as I said before, it costs more to deliver services in the rural area. So, um, I'm not in favor of this one. And as the the county attorney said, just because you have a 5 acre or 2 and a half acre lot doesn't mean you're getting executive housing on it. And as we all want big nice houses, I think they can pay the mobility fees. We have a 75% deficit in funding the roads that we need. And while I don't think there's going to be that many of these, I just don't feel it's fiscally prudent to chip away at even 25%. So, I'm I'm not for this one.
17:16Let me just give you a thought. as far as going from the five to two and a half and I don't think there's be a tremendous amount of it either but if I can get a project coming forward with that not only they got to pay they'll pay the smaller fee up front but if you get more of those two and a half acre lots that are out there the demographics it brings is huge the taxes they pay huge which is also part of the mobility fee that's being fun
17:38how are you qualifying the demographic
17:40well anyone who has a big house usually got more money
17:43you pay a bigger
17:44they have two and a half acres and they slap a trailer on there. So, um, what about maybe, you know, a compromise just came to my mind. If we left some wiggle room because let's say we got an equestrian community that came in and had bigger lots, two and a half acre lots like Arista is one acre and you can have a horse if you have one acre in Arista. Um what if we have a development that comes in that is something that we desire that's two and a half acres with you know a certain qualifications
18:16then we can
18:17plug that in but I'm not for it and you need five votes you're not for it
18:23I'm not for it for anything goes and we're sub and the sub suburban people are subsidizing that so
18:29so you bring a good point Dave is there a way we can make that work.
18:35I think you can if it's an MPD. There's a way to make that work. Yes. The answer is yes. If it's an MPD, I think you can make that work.
18:43So, how can we incorporate it into the language to
18:45But I I don't think you would change it in the ordinance. You would be doing that through the MPD conditions.
18:54So, do we need to change?
18:55You would be leaving the ordinance at 5 acres.
18:57Yeah. Just as it currently stands, you would be addressing any special discounts for that MPU in through the MPU conditions.
19:06So I don't need to add anything in this mobility fee ordinance at all. We can just do that.
19:11You would you would be addressing the discounts for that particular MPD through its MPU conditions. But there's a way to do it. We've done it before.
19:19Okay.
19:21Okay. Next.
19:22All right. Next bullet. Unless
19:24I mean it's got to be unanimous so there's not a long debate and we've got the we've got the out and and again I don't think anyone would do it with the trailer but if that takes care of the argument and we have the flexibility it's stated here that we do have the flexibility we can move from there I think.
19:38Okay next slide.
19:42Not that there's anything wrong with the trailer. I just don't want to I just don't want to subsidize it and put more burden on other people for traffic. Okay. Um, I'm trying very hard to get my husband to do one of those container homes that I would like to help build, but he has no interest. Um, okay. Hockey rink. There's been great discussion about a four-rank hockey rink coming into the Trinity area and it and it's talked about going at Mitchell and Little and if I don't have impact, if I don't have mobility fees, I cannot build Mitchell Boulevard. And if I can't build Mitch to Boulevard, then the traffic's going to fail for a hockey rink. So, I'm not okay with that one. Um, I think there's other ways to get help for a hockey rink, but to to not help build the road network when it's going to cause a lot of traffic is a problem. So, that I guess that depends on the location. Is that another we can be flexible too when it comes forward? I know we did it before in Wesley Chapel with the hockey rink. It was orig million dollars worth of fees. We brought those fees down. I was just trying to simplify it. So,
20:56well, if it's part of an economic development project, the the county can always find ways to buy down the fees for a particular project and you've done that before
21:06then we did it at Ven Heist.
21:08Yes. So, if it's a if it's a particular project that you feel is an economic development project, you can there's ways to do that.
21:14Okay. All right. I mean, I'd rather do it up front, but it's got to be problem.
21:18It could be a problem. I mean, it could not even be able to get off the ground because doesn't have the the roads fail.
21:25And you'd be okay if it was even a full subsidy. If it was in the right location,
21:30say that again.
21:30You'd be okay if it was even a full subsidy if it was in the right location.
21:34Um I I think it just has it has to be negotiated. I would not do it like this. If it's Yeah. If it's an area where there's no traffic issue, I don't know 301 and is that for hills or I don't know your area well somewhere else but if it's in Trinity and I and it's going to affect my traffic on little and 54 and I because we were planning on using that money to help build mental boulevard and so if we can't have that road we can't have any development down there so I think it would hurt us.
22:08All right. If we got the flexibility we can move on.
22:10Yeah. Next.
22:12I think that's it.
22:13The last one was the golf course question.
22:15Oh, I I I don't I uh Is this public or private or does it matter?
22:20To me, right now, you've got golf courses have closed down pre-COVID and there's such demand for golf course right now. Prices are going through the roof. We've shut down a few of them over the years from storm water, etc. I think anytime you're building a golf course, and it could be a public golf course, could be a private, you're going to cut down trips. It's going to save and it's going to help the overall econom.
22:38I'm okay with the golf course. Okay, that's good.
22:42Would that be associated with residential or independent or doesn't it matter?
22:47It doesn't matter.
22:48Okay,
22:49I'll just leave it open. Okay. All right. So, those are the three key points. We're okay with that. All right. Time for public comment. Anyone here from the public like to speak to this item? Okay. Anyone online?
23:01No one's online.
23:02Okay. All right. It's to the board.
23:04Move approval with the uh amended changes.
23:08Okay. So to be clear, the only change that Nick has to make is zeroing out golf course. Correct?
23:13Yeah.
23:14That's what I heard.
23:15Okay.
23:17I have a motion. Got a second. Roll call vote.
23:19District one. Commissioner Oakley.
23:21I.
23:21District two. Commissioner Waitman.
23:23I.
23:23District three. Commissioner Starky.
23:25I.
23:25District four. Commissioner Joerger.
23:27I.
23:27District five. Chairman Mariano.
23:29I.
23:30Motion passes 5. Thank you very much.
23:33All right. Now we'll start with our public hearings. Um Mr. County Attorney read the rules of consent agenda. Be happy to. There are two reasoning agendas, regular and consent. Each staff the staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If the staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for for presentation, the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the resoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi judicial public hearings. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found in the board's land development code for reasonzoning.
25:04Okay.
25:05Madam cler
25:07sorry
25:08I do. If you are here to speak on any of the uh matters that are left on the agenda, if you could please stand if you're able to and raise your right hands. Okay. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth. So help you God.
25:28Thank you.
25:30Okay. First item is a P37. Item P37 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on April 1st, 2026 and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.
25:44Item P37 is PD267596. This is a zoning amendment to the name of Denton Avenue MPUD, Denton Avenue Project LLC. It's a resoning request from AC Agricultural District to an MPU master plan unit development district. The request is to continue the item to the June 16, 2026 port of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. or assume thereafter is say may be heard in Newporti. Okay, we have a motion move to continue
26:12second.
26:13All in favor say I.
26:14I. Any opposed?
26:16Motion passes. P38
26:18item approve.
26:19Yes, sir. Item P38 was published in Tampa Bay Times on May 6, 2026 and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.
26:27Uh item P38 is PD267721. This is a zoning amendment to the name of Little Road MPD master plan unit development by Nanine. It's a reszoning petition from er Estate Residential District to MPD master plan unit development. This is this comes to you with a request to continue the item to a date uncertain.
26:47Okay. Do a motion to continue?
26:50Move to move to continue.
26:52Second. All in favor say I.
26:53I.
26:54And Terry, earlier today there was some documents submitted that wanted to be put into the record. I don't know if you got those yet.
27:00On these items or
27:02on for this?
27:03There is in public comment this morning. Several people spoke about this project.
27:08Ah, okay.
27:09You have to get them from board records.
27:10We'll do.
27:14All right. And now we'll go to P39. Item P39 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on April 1st, 2026 and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P39 is PD 267892. This is a zoning amendment uh in the name of Lando Lakes 5241 Sandridge Commercial LLC and SR52 Williams LLC. It's a resounding request from MPD master plan unit development to MPUD master plan unit development district to allow for an option to develop 122 platted town homes and associated infrastructure on approximately 76.72 acres of located in west central Pasco County on the south side of state road 52. Uh this comes to you with a recommendation from the board from the planning development economic growth department to approve the proposed substantial modification to the MPD subject to the attached conditions of approval. And there's a presentation if so desired. It's on consent. So, we're going to see if there's any opposition. Is there any opposition to item P39?
28:13Anyone online?
28:15No one's online.
28:16Okay, we'll leave that on consent. Now, we'll go to item P40.
28:20Item P40 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on April 1st, 2026 and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.
28:28Item P40 is PTE26 CU7. This is a conditional use request in the name of Tahesian multif family Shri Ram Investment Incorporated. It's a conditional use for multif family dwellings in a C2 general commercial district in southwest Casco County on the west side of US Highway 19 at the intersection of US Highway 19 and Tahesian Gardens Circle containing approximately 3.04 acres. Uh this comes with a recommendation from the planning development economic growth department to approve the conditional use request with conditions as set forth in the recommended conditions section uh in of the agenda memo. Uh important to note is that there were three late exparte forms that were received. These were given to the clerk and also one new conditional uh condition of approval was included since the publication of the agenda which I can go ahead and uh read to the uh to the board. This condition says the applicants any owners and their successors entitled will not apply for or accept the following funding for any portion of an adaptive reuse development of the property. One CDBG community development block grant. two, CDBGDR, community development block grant, disaster recovery, three, ship, state housing initiative partnership, and four, home investment partnership grant. And there's a presentation if so desired.
29:50Um, I'm going to pull it because there's something else I want to discuss as well, but I appreciate those conditions. Um, so I'm going to pull that from P40 from consent. So, if I could have a motion for the other consent agenda item. Move.
30:05Second.
30:05All in favor say I. Hi.
30:07Hi.
30:08Uh, so Terry, if you want, we can go run in the presentation now.
30:12Sure. We can have staff.
30:25Good afternoon. Amy Till with Planning, Development, and Economic Growth. Item P40 is a conditional use request in the name of Tahesian Multif Family Shine Ram Investment Inc. It's a conditional use request in a C2 general commercial district zoning. Uh it does have a future land use of RO to allow for multif family dwellings in a C2 district. Uh they are going to propose a conversion of an existing motel in accordance with the LDC section 526.303. It is located on the west side of US N or US Highway 19 at the intersection of US Highway 19 and Tahesian Garden Circle. Here is the uh county map identifying where it's located in the Antloope East District of the West Market area and the urban service area. Here's your context map to see where it's located on US19. Here's an aerial version that zooms in and you can see that it is the existing hotel. The future land use is currently RO retail uh residential office retail retail office residential excuse me tongue tied uh zoning is C2. So the project overview the subject site consists of a 148 room defunct motel on approximately 3.04 acres. The motel rooms will be converted into apartments. uh LDC section 52630 multif family dwellings uh subject site is permitted there uh through the conditional use uh request for either an affordable housing as defined by section 420.00004 Florida statutes or vertically integrated mixed use or located within the west market area subject site is located within the west market area. The number of units shall not exceed the maximum dwelling allowed pursuant to the RO flu and in no case shall the number exceed 96 units. Additionally, the subject site is on an active bus route. One stop approximately 500 ft north and another stop approximately 600 ft south. US Highway 19 was identified as a conceptual trail corridor from alternate 19 north to Sunray Drive. There are currently no plans to design the construction of the concept trail conceptual trail and there's an existing 5-ft sidewalk on the west side of US Highway 19. Uh alternative standards needed for the requirements of the LDC section 907 9007 for parking and 905.1 for neighborhood parks will be provided if necessary. Um and it the proposal aligns with the West Market area's vision and mission and the harbor's redevelopment infill plan. Here are the policies. The pro proposed resoning is consistent with the site plan showing the existing hotel and the parking and conversion areas and the recommendation to approve the conditional use request with conditions that set as set forth in the recommended condition section. And I can answer any questions you guys may have.
33:43Okay, I'm going to go into the cons. I I had a few concerns with it. The biggest one was putting in a lot of CDBG money, ship money, um to go subsidize a project. Um I thought it'd be better not to have it have a regular hotel coming in there because hotels are very desirable. These aren't as. However, being that they're willing to give up on those, uh there's one thing that didn't get mentioned and I want to think of if there's anything else out there that could be subsidized that would cost us tax revenue from this thing coming in. Um, live local comes to mind.
34:18Um, has that provision been thought of with the applicant as far as a funding source that does not happen?
34:25There's another condition where they wave that.
34:27They did wave that.
34:28That's already in the condition.
34:29It's already in there. Okay. All right. Um,
34:31I have a comment,
34:33Commissioner Jagger. So, I'm really excited about this project. Um when I uh spoke to the applicant, um for those of you that that don't know, um there'll be a set amount, a fixed amount on these units. So it' be great for uh low-income families, single moms, and the price includes the rent, the electric, the water. They'll have a playground, a pool, uh you know, just a place where they can really uh use it as a stepping stone to get on their feet. Um, I think it's a great use for the property and um, I look forward to hopefully getting this over the finish line.
35:16Mr. Mr. Shy,
35:18um, I I also am in support of this. I've met numerous times with the applicant and um, um, this has been an eyesore in the community for a long time and and the reason it's defunct is because they had so many code violations there and it was really a drug hotel. Um, I think this will serve the community well. Um, and in in talking with the applicant, you know, we have a workforce training program pretty much across the street and we talked about the possibility of having some of those furnished um, spots in there um, available for people coming in for training that that can't afford
35:56to stay in a hotel, a regular hotel. Um, also, um, I mentioned to him if we get our our voucher problem, um, fixed, uh, he's looking into the ability of taking some of our folks that are on the waiting list for the vouchers and and putting them there as well. So, could really really help our uh, issues in the county. And um it's a little tight there in the front for the landscaping that I would like as my efforts to beautify Holiday continue. Um but I think we've got some solutions that will will help. Um I don't want us I don't want you to say we don't want a trail there. Um, I always want to have a way a a multi-use trail coming down 19, an alternate 19 so people can get to work or the grocery store by bike. Um, but in this instance, there's absolutely no room to do anything there. So, it may have to be across the street or something else, but um, let's not nyx the idea of having a multi-use trail going down further south down 19.
37:07Okay. M
37:11just like to agree with this project. It's going to take something that's been an isore and sitting still not funding in the county uh to be something very good and uh be good for the citizens here to move into Pasco and a project like this very nice project.
37:29Okay, Commissioner Waitman proves we don't need the Live Local Act in Pasco County. I'll leave it at that.
37:39So, I' I'd like to be able to offer these folks something. I'm I'm I'm very pleased that they've taken away these subsidies. That makes it much more palatable to me. Um I asked them about working with like Amkills. I asked them working with other groups out there. Um yesterday I visit with Metropolitan Ministries and in meeting with them. Uh they've got people that are looking for that transition. I don't want to give the direct subsidy to this group, but I don't mind looking at trying to help Metmin because they do have subsidy programs that you can work with to get them in there and that could help as well. Uh I'd also like to say that if we can, let's go look at giving a um part of our uh tree mitigation fund that whatever landscaping they do, we subsidize that for them. That's something that doesn't hurt the taxpayer. money sitting there and if it gets as lush as can be and I mean that can go internal to the property around the pool area too so they can dress it up.
38:32Yeah.
38:32I think it'll only help and I think it's a good use of funds.
38:35It's it's not a not not for profit but it is doing u low-inccome housing. So
38:43I yeah I don't remember whether low income or affordable housing is part of
38:49David do you remember is that is affordable housing part of the landscape dream aviation
38:56incentives let's say that it's if possible
39:02oh I got David
39:08David Engel planning and economic development director good afternoon so The commercial landscape grant program,
39:15yes,
39:16allows commercially positioned zoned properties, which this is on the 19 Carter to be eligible. So, we can extend some grant money to them.
39:24Okay,
39:25good idea.
39:25And we will we'll follow through with that, sir.
39:27All right. Thank you.
39:28All right. So, with that, I'm comfortable with it, too.
39:30Great.
39:31Um, so there's a time for Did the applicant want to talk? Five. Looks pretty good, huh? Uh, all right. Uh, is there anyone from the audience would like to speak to this item?
39:45Is there anybody online?
39:46Someone raised my
39:58Hi, my name is Margaret O'Brien and I'm on the um, Tahesian Gardens Condominium Association. I'm their president and we are very much for this. if you could just tell me if you've been sworn or not.
40:09Oh, I wasn't. Sorry.
40:10Okay.
40:13Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you, God.
40:17Yes, I do.
40:18Thank you. You proceed.
40:19Okay. Sorry. Um, as you said, that hotel has been an eyesore to Tahesian Gardens condominiums for several years and um has caused problems in our community, which is gated, but it they don't care, you know, uh, drugs, homelessness, everything. I think this is a wonderful way to clean up that area and still be able to have it affordable for people that can't afford to go out and buy a house right away or whatever. But Tesian Gardens, they came, they spoke to us at a board meeting and we are all for it. I don't want it to stay as that hotel.
41:11Okay.
41:11Thank you.
41:12Thank you. Can you I've asked my staff to come out and get your info because I want to be sure sure you're sending someone to our Harbor South Leadership Council meeting.
41:22Oh, okay.
41:23All right.
41:24Thanks.
41:24Okay. Anyone else from the audience would like to speak? Okay. Anybody online?
41:32No one's online.
41:33All right. Do you have a motion?
41:34Move to approve. Second.
41:36And that's for the anticipation they can use the tree mitigation funds for money as well.
41:41Yep.
41:41Okay. All right. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed. Okay. Unanimous. All right. Item P41.
41:49Item P41 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on April 1st, 2026 and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.
41:58Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Item P41 is PD260414. This is a comprehensive plan amendment in the name of CPA 2305 Mitchell US41 providing for a transmitt of a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 5 changing from res one residential one dwelling unit per gross acre residential res 3 residential three dwelling units per gross acre IIL industrial light conervation lands and of office to PD plan development on approximately 1,219 acres of real property located on the west side of US Highway 41 and a text amendment to subarian policy flu 7.15 Mitchell US41 and a map amendment to the future land use map 2-9 amending sub area map 2-915. This comes with a recommendation to authorize transmitt of the proposed coverage plan amendment to the department of commerce and other reviewing agencies and we can do a presentation if so desired. um presentation.
43:00I don't need one.
43:01No.
43:02Okay.
43:02I've worked it and worked it and worked it.
43:05Well, I love this project.
43:06All right. So, we'll skip the presentation. I I do want to say that um when I first heard about it, looked at it, you know, met with their attorney, um looked real good. Then when I read the agenda item, especially toward the back with the MPU conditions, etc., I was a little concerned about it. Being that this is just a transmitt, we're going to get to hear it again. in full. Um I've as I've asked to meet with them again with our staff to go forward to a little bit dive into a little bit more, but I I'm going to be comfortable with seeing this take the next step because coming back to us that's when we get into the details everything else that's in there. So having said that I don't think we need a presentation. Is anyone from the audience here to speak to item P41? Seeing no one in the audience. Do we see anyone online?
43:52No one's online.
43:53Okay. Okay. To the board. to approve.
43:56Second.
43:57All in favor say I.
43:59I.
44:00Okay. Passes 5.
44:04Okay.
44:05We have our bike ride scheduled.
44:08Now we'll go to committee reports and Commissioner Jagger.
44:11Okay. Well, one of the reasons I wanted to wait till after lunch was because I knew we'd have a bigger crowd. And well, I want to share um every month I'm going to do something for public safety and their numbers. So, last week was National Police Week. Hey guys, wait, don't leave. You have to hear how awesome our public safety team is. Oh, yeah. It'll take one second. All right. The sheriff's office responded to more than 6,800 calls for service. They also conducted more than a thousand traffic stops and conducted more than 300 welfare checks. And for our fire rescue, they had 8,875 calls and 283 motor vehicle car accidents, 27 structure fires, and 137 calls for special ops. So, I just want to do that every month so everybody realizes how hard our public safety team works day in and day out to keep us safe. So, thank you. You guys can go now. All right. So, here are some of my commissioner items. I've got to had the privilege of reading to two preschools. So, you guys know that that is my favorite thing. So, next slide. Uh, we had a for the our senior center, we had a big drop off to re to uh restock their senior store and our pilot program is going great over there. By the way,
45:33did someone donate that?
45:35Yes.
45:36Very nice.
45:36All right. Next one. This is our um pantry popup at Winter Paradise. We uh fed fed 86 families and that was Grace's food pantry. And this community is so thankful. There's a lot of um children, young children and families living in in this park and they are so thankful while we were there. So, all right, next one. So, while we were out of town, our staff went to the Habitat for Humanity. So, they volunteered and they had a great time. I heard Paula can really paint, so might have to put her to work. All right. And that's all I have. And then, of course, I was in Arkansas with the group for about six days. So,
46:17and she's got the scars to prove it.
46:19Yes.
46:21We um I probably shouldn't be saying this, but we they had this bike first bikable and walkable building that went like this
46:28in the world.
46:29In the world. And I was on a scooter that I've never ridden in my life. So, um yeah, I ran into the wall. But um
46:38tight turns,
46:38very tight turns. So um but lots of great takeaways from the uh from the trip. So
46:45excited to show you guys pictures that video there
46:48cuz uh Wait. Okay, we're going to show this one video.
46:51Okay, go ahead. I'm done.
46:52Because it's only 214.
46:54Um can you pick the one with her and her boo boo and her boo boo?
46:58Oh, don't do that.
47:00No, that's not it. That's the uh Walmart. That's like calling a guy out for scoping himself on a hunt.
47:06Video.
47:07No, that's not it either. That's
47:08You can't do that.
47:09Is that all you got? The other videos.
47:12I'll I'll send it while
47:13you Good job.
47:15No worries. You can find it about 3:00. That'll be fine.
47:20All right. County administrator Mike, just one quick thing. I know the board was was speaking earlier about the MO item. So, Tri County roundt uh you approved this uh this is coming up on June 5th. that is a Friday. It'll be at the Sky Center down at the Tampa International Airport. Again, the agenda does include discussions of the regional MO. So, that will be a topic of discussion with with all board members present. Uh as well as conversations surrounding the Florida legislature, uh any updates there, as well as future meeting dates, how we want to have these things, as well as any issues of regional importance that commissioners want to bring up for for future discussion. But I wanted to put that back on your radar, make sure that you know that we are still doing these. Um, and no is still the hot topic that we'll we'll be covering.
48:04Mike, one of the things I want to make sure we talked at the last TMA meeting was I brought up at the MO about working with HART, which was on a slideshow, uh, to try to get a bus rapid a bus transit down to the airport, possibly to the port. And, uh, we're supposed to set up meetings and meetings didn't get set up. I still haven't had the meeting set up yet, even after the meeting.
48:28So, uh, I want to make sure that's an agenda item that's listed because both the port authority and the airport authority said they would be happy to meet with us. Yeah.
48:38To talk about it to try to make it happen because that dead area in the Florida Turnpike north of um, south of Ridge Road where the the old toll booths are is a lot of acres that could be used much more effectively than what they're thinking about. and uh they both seem supportive to it and frankly if we do get to where the rays come down there they're going to want to have that especially
48:58so that could be a have a lot of uses so I want to make sure that is on the agenda listed so we can have that conversation
49:04well so typically we we formulate that agenda by consensus but you can be free to bring it up and I I'll discuss it with
49:11I want more than that
49:12and I think I want more than that meeting
49:14and I'm sure they will be but again they were supportive to have the meeting so if it's on the agenda I guarantee you we're probably going to get that meeting as as opposed to not. So, I want to make sure it's in print that we're going to talk about it. Okay. Mr. Starky.
49:27Um I had I had when I found I've already had plans to be out of town when that date came through, but I plan to um get up and I will be participating through the whole thing virtually. Last time I had another meeting and then I had to jump on. Um but I will be participating virtually. I want to make sure the other commissioners are planning on going. Can I hear who's going? Who's got it on their calendars?
49:52I'm out of town.
49:53Uh, I think so. Why?
49:55Are you going to participate virtually?
49:57No.
49:58It's fifth, right? June 5th.
50:03I'm sorry. There. So, June 5th. Yeah, June 5th is the plan on being there.
50:09I plan I plan to be there. I just want to make sure my agenda is going to be there. We're We're discussing it now.
50:13Okay. All right. So, we have four or five. That's a good showing.
50:16I think so. Yeah. question.
50:20Um, Commissioner Wer, so should we bring up the the DOT thing depending on how Hillsboro and City of Tampa do this week, depending on your answers or your conversation with with the DOT secretary?
50:39Yeah, let's play it by ear.
50:42It's important.
50:43It's important though. I agree.
50:46That's it. Okay. Anything else, Mr. Cabella?
50:51Okay. County attorney,
50:52I don't have anything for you today. Mad
50:54clerk,
50:55I don't either.
50:56Well, um,
50:57can I ask if I could question Starky?
50:59Um, on at the TMA, they now say if you're not there, you can't vote, but I think you can discuss. And we don't vote at this,
51:09but if you're if you're online, can you discuss? Can you
51:14Of course, I think we can.
51:15Just want to be sure. provided the technology is there for two-way two-way communication. I I don't I don't see why we we wouldn't be able to handle that.
51:22Okay.
51:22Yeah.
51:23Okay. Gina, you got a couple slides for me?
51:27So, that was our uh tourism banquet was great. Um the speaker was awesome. Connor was awesome. Did a great job. What a great story from
51:37was
51:37struggles, success, struggles and bouncing back and what what a fine young man.
51:42Olympic BMX writer, right?
51:44Yeah. Champion. champion. Olympian.
51:46Yeah. Olympian Olympian BMX. Uh I don't all know that Keith Wy
51:52was a competitive BMX guy.
51:55I didn't know that.
51:56Yeah.
51:56Okay. Uh next slide. So I I was down at Metropolitan Ministries. Had a great tour. Um and it was really cool seeing what they've done down there and how it actually operates. And it's something I think we should look to even try to model. And I'm going to say, I know we there's a lot of DR things and I've got a ton of suggestions in there, too. But I'll tell you, the the campus down there, they had it from infants at one year old all the way to like four. And they'd have a room in there, the kids were playing, doing whatever, learning as they were going along. Let's face it, the the better they learn, the earlier they are, the better off it is. Um, up at Hudson, they've got a hope program that's up there that they're affiliated with, and I'm going to go tour with them. Um because from what they're doing up there, I think there's a possibility to put one of these buildings, that creative learning center in there. Maybe it needs to be bigger, whatever it may be. But I think it'd be a great addition uh to help in this county between the daycare opportunity that's there and the quality of learning for the kids. I think it's a lot it's a good discussion to have coming up. But anyway, they they're doing a great job down there. It was nice to see and nice to get the tour. Next slide. That's just pictures of the resource center that's up in Hudson. Okay. And uh oh, do you have my SL uh so this slide here? So I want to say it was like about four weeks probably like three months ago maybe that I met with our staff Panos and uh Panos here. There he is. All right. So I met with Panis and Patricia and we talked about the Zimmerman project. It's a project been in the county no list for about I'll say probably 20 something years probably minutes 25 and we could never get the road funded safe route to schools is now going to take ranch road
53:42all the way up Zimmerman to 52 and allow people at Gulf Highlands Elementary to go to school safely
53:49one of the problems with this was with this road was going to be designed it was going really close to the roadway out there back on the other side is a Portuguese American club and I tell you these guys were great. They hosted us when we did the F2A for Aqua Utilities years ago. What a beautiful building. They've done great renovations in there. Matter of fact, it may become a a future site for voting coming up as we found out. Um, but I told them we just needed to take part of their backland, which they weren't using. It is fenced. Um, there's some trees that could be landscape, which they actually like the idea, Commissioner Starky. So, we're going to try to work with that on them. But, we need just a sliver of land that's there. the value with the 15% included from the property appraiser site came to about $3,500 in less than two weeks. They called the meeting and over 40 people showed up. We did a presentation. They called the meeting to order within 10 minutes from calling the meeting to order. We had everybody and I think they got another picture in there. Go back to the previous picture.
54:46Where where is this?
54:47This is this is in the port in Gulf Highlands off Zimmerman which is north of Ranch Road.
54:52Zimmerman what? Zimmerman. Zimmerman. Um, it's about a quarter mile, half a mile north of uh, Ranch Road.
55:03I'm on Zimmerman, but I don't I don't see it.
55:05So, it's the club is to the back part of it.
55:08Zimmerman and Ranch.
55:10It's north of It's north. It's on Zimmerman, just north of Ranch.
55:15Okay.
55:16And where the road comes up, it bends real hard and the sidewalk was going out to the edge really close. I thought it was dangerous. There's the club right there. Now, by actually coming in there, we can move that road off to the side. They were very acceptable to it. And uh like I did a few years ago with Tim Bro trying to get everybody's thumbs up for the golf course renovation we're going to do, you know, all the all the drainage. Everybody in the room put a thumbs up for uh approval of the project. So, Panos, you and Patricia were phenomenal. Thank you for listening. Thanks for going out there. What you did was great to set the whole conversation up and made it real easy. So, thank you. Okay. And is that it? Okay. And that's all I've got. Anything else? Okay. We're ajourned. Thank you.
55:59Um Panos,
56:02was it you that's working on where?
56:12It's not bad. have two remember