8.11.26 Pasco County Board of County Commissioner Meeting (Morning Session)

Let us pray. Most gracious eternal father, we are thankful to be here this morning to conduct our civic business. Give us wisdom, compassion, and uh help us to make Pasco a better place to live and work. And father, this morning we are especially mindful of uh weight the Weightman family. Just wrap compassion and comfort around them at this difficult time. We ask that you'll be with our first responders, our law enforcement, school teachers, doctors, and nurses of this community. And also our little uh blessing boots, our comfort dog. May he bring smiles to many, many people that need that. Thank you for our work today. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Madam clerk, please call the role.

District one, Commissioner Oakley,

here.

District two, Commissioner Weightman.

District three, Commissioner Starky here.

District four, Commissioner Joerger here. District 5 Chairman Mariano

here and please excuse Commissioner Weman. Now is the time for public comment. Citizens given an opportunity to comment on any current and future agenda item coming before the board or any other business under the board's purview. Today's public comment will be handled as follows. First, we will take public comment for those who are here in person. Then we will take public comment for those who are pre-registered for an online link and currently on Q. We request that you address the board. comments are not directed that the comments are not directed personally at a commissioner or team member but rather directed at the issues. This provides mutual respect between board members and the public. After stating your name and address for the clerk, a three-minute timer will be activated. A green light will be shown in the podium. After 2 minutes, a yellow light will indicate you have 1 minute left. When your time is up, a red light will be displayed. Three beeps will sound and you should close your comments. Online participants will be disconnected automatically when their time is up. Madame Clerk, do we have anyone signed up for public comment?

I have um I think five people signed up for public comment. I will call you in order of of the way you sign.

Before we get to public comment, I'd just like to make a statement. Um we are going to be continuing the item on Orange Lake Trail, Orange Trail. So, if you do want to speak to that, you can wait, but we will not be discussing that item today.

Thank you. Um Thomas uh SM followed by Amy Baird followed by Adam Brusselback. Mr. SM Thomas. Thank you. And Mr. Myers, before you start your comments, if you could state your name and address for the record second. All in favor say I. I. I.

I. Morning.

Oh, sir, could you put We can't hear you. Can you your microphone?

Sorry.

Perfect. Thank you.

My name is Tom SM. Um I live at 10315 Armadillo Court, Newport Richie, Florida 34654. I was here in May and I'm back here again to discuss the changes needed for ordinance 5316 created in 21 which allows commercial vehicles to be parked and stored in an ER residential subdivision. For the past two years, my neighbor has been running a [clears throat] semi restoration repair shop out of a 40 by 80 3200 square foot building that he put up in 2023 along the property line. The shop is open 7 days a week.

It's not

from about 11:00 in the morning till 10:30 at night. We've been dealing with Pasco County code enforcement compliance with this entire time and mostly recent with Pasco County assistant administrator. My deed until late December of 21 coincides with zoning of er residential lot. This unsolicited ordinance has changed the zoning and the county commissioner has known about this for over two years that it lacks police ability and code compliance without concise definition of commercial vehicles in the different zones. You have allowed the subdivision to become a noisy area and our property has become unrecognizable from the deeds. My once beautiful country home is gone. I'm asking you to please rewrite this ordinance so we can safeguard the property and neighbors who live next to these commercial vehicles who are allowed to park and store in an enclosed building. so we can restore the way the ER residential lots are supposed to be. On August 4th, 26, 2026, I have sent out a detailed letter that detailed letter that has happened over the two two years showing that code enforcement, code compliance cannot police this ordinance. and I pray that you can rewrite this ordinance so we can have our peaceful home back. I have provided a copy of the letter and photos attached to it. My neighbor has now planted bamboo all along the whole property line two foot from my fence to hide his operation. Now I'm going to have to deal with bamboo encroaching on my property. He will continue to run this semi- restoration and repair business and there's nothing that's going to stop him. He has been doing this for over two years.

Go ahead and finish up.

Okay. Uh he's been pl he's um where was I? He was So now you're you're going to have that bamboo growing up over there so he can hide his operation. Um This should not be allowed. One semi or a semi with a 60-foot trailer shouldn't be allowed in an ER residential lot. It is too large, noisy, and it goes it goes against Pasco County defined under reszoning for the ER lot.

It also let me stop you past the three minutes, but let me just say this. I appreciate you driving all the way out here to this. Uh, sorry you have to do this. But the picture that I see up here that's even the most damning is this one right here that shows a picture of a bunch of semis that are in there. At least four. Shows tires along there. And then on this looks like a Facebook post. It says, "Busy day in the shop today. Had my son and driver busting blank while I was chasing down parts. Love when I can leave him a job and it's done by the time I get back. Thanks for the help, blank." So, I know we've used this for, you know, elect electronic meeting for different things with with the county as far as trying to process things. Um, this here tells you that this man is running a shop.

So, I don't know what we need to shut this thing down, but this clearly is selfinccriminating by having this post that's out there, pictures of his own inside shop that's there. I want to see the county attorney and Mr. Allen, um, David, you can work with him right now, but you need to see this picture. This this alone should be enough to to get something done. Thank you. [clears throat]

Thank you. Um Amy Beard, [clears throat]

good morning. Uh Amy Baird. I live at 8118 Pla Road, Newport Richie, uh 34653.

And I am here today to speak about the flock type cameras that are being placed around the county. Just to be clear about the uh what we're talking about here, I have lived in Pasco County for 30 years. I have worked here as a local business owner for more [clears throat] than 20 years, as has my husband. He's been here even longer as a business owner. I have kids and grandkids who live here in Pasco County. I am here to speak about the Axon cameras. I believe that is the brand um of surveillance cameras that are being placed around the county. Um and I am absolutely here to tell you that we did not sign up for this. The people of Pasco County have had no say in this happening to us. There's been no public discourse regarding the placement of this surveillance network. I am here to tell you also that the ways this can go wrong far outweigh any benefit to uh to the police uh gaining information. There are too many risks. This is definitely not just license plate tracking. It is people tracking. The data that is being collected would absolutely require a warrant and the Supreme Court ruling last Friday proves it. [clears throat] Your job as my county commissioner is to protect me and remove the surveillance network cameras from any location in Pasco County that they are currently installed and to not allow any future ones to be placed. This is a whole network of surveillance that is already documented as being abused by law enforcement. In particular, there have been officers arrested for stalking people. There is an integration of this surveillance networks which is a true concern. Data is being stored in the cloud and the chances of our data being hacked by unintended parties is real. And there are no controls in place to protect our data. And I might remind you, your data as well. You as well are being tracked as you move around Pasco County currently. Please do your job to protect the citizens of Pasco County. Please, this is serious stuff. Um, and protect us from the mass surveillance immediately. This is critical. Thank you.

Thank you.

Appreciate your time.

Thank you. We have Adam Brusselback followed by Elaine Lance followed by Anthony uh Sakant Santanis. Sorry, I'm sure I slaughtered that last name, but you can correct me.

Hello, my name is Adam Russell. I live at 3636 Hunting Creek Loop in Newport Richie. I'm a software engineer and a small business owner. I'm asking you not to approve more license plate cameras and I don't think the ones that are already up should be there. One camera reading one plate tells you nothing about a wider pattern of life. Neither does a hundred separate readings sitting in a hund separate places. But put them together in a database and the pattern be appears that nobody intentionally collected and nobody approved. which neighborhood a car sleeps in, where it goes on weekday mornings, where which church, which doctor, which meetings, and who else's car was parked there. That p [laughter] that pattern isn't a single record. It comes out of assembling them. And once the system exists, assembling them takes a few seconds. There's a reason the Fourth Amendment exists. Before it officers could search whoever they felt like without naming a person or giving a reason first. So the rule became that the reason comes first and it must be about someone specific. A camera network runs that backwards. It collects on everybody and the reason gets attached later if one ever comes up. The excuse for it is that a private company holds the data instead of the county. That doesn't change what's on it or who searches it. You'll be told that the courts have approved this. Read the rulings rather than what the companies say about them. Massachusetts case that gets quoted held that with enough cameras in enough places, this becomes a search that needs a warrant. It let the program stand because it was four cameras on two bridges. The vendors quote that outcome and leave out the reasoning. But actually what's actually being bought here is the database. The cameras just feed it with Action. The integration is the product plate readers, body cameras, in-car video, drones, and a mapping platform wired into the state and national databases. All of which from all of it comes from the same vendor under one contract. Every piece added makes the pattern sharper. None of it comes back to this board for a vote. It shows up as a feature. So don't approve these and take down the ones that are already up. Thank you.

Thank you, Elaine Law, followed by Anthony Sakin, followed by Nancy Hazelwood.

Yes. Yes. like he said. Uh oh, Ela LZ, uh 5827 Tennessee 34652. Uh yes, I'm against the cameras as well. Uh when I worked for the county, we were a nonprofit organization as all counties should be, government, and we were also not allowed to pray or put stuff on our desk unless other people with different religious beliefs were also allowed to put stuff on their desks, including Satan worshippers, Islamics, Jewish people, Quaker people, people of different faiths. So, I'm really appalled that you're sitting here praying in a government building because if anybody remembers history, there's supposed to be a separation of church and state. When you say the pledge of allegiance, uh, justice for all, that means all. So, anyway, uh, about the cameras, over 50 police officers, like she said, were caught using data from the data to harass women from past relationships, but only 25 were charged. And are they going to be disciplined? I don't think so. Uh, they're not disciplined for killing people, so I doubt they're going to be disciplined for this. I also know that Texas used the cameras to hunt down a woman who had an abortion, and that was her only crime. And this is ridiculous because we all know that there's more going on in Texas than one woman having an abortion. And I'm just have to say that I'm tired of women being harassed, hunted down, prosecuted, policed, and killed. Women are also being arrested for having miscarriage and judged for their life choices. So, if you have all these cameras, you can track where they're going. Uh they're going to the doctor, they're going to the store, what's going on. I know that a lot of government agencies want to start policing our bodies more than they already are, and I'm against that. Um I don't want to live in a Nazi Germany kind of police state. And I don't know if any of you are profiting from these cameras, but if you are, that's not good either. Thank you.

All right, Anthony Sickines and followed by Nancy Hazelwood.

Good morning, Commission. Anthony Sikes, 13147 Summerfield Way, Dade City. Um, I'm here today actually to talk about I want I want to ask the board to end Pasco County's participation in the sheriff's automated license plate reader network by terminating interlocal agreement CAO25-00003. I obtained the agreement from the clerk and its [clears throat] terms make the path forward very clear. It was approved December 10th 24 as part of the consent agenda and it passed without separate discussion. I don't raise that to accuse anyone of hiding anything, but a policy with implications with this significance for the privacy of Pasco residents deserves direct public discussion. More importantly, the agreement gives this board a clear offramp. So, if [clears throat] you refer to the agreement, section 2.5 requires the sheriff to obtain additional county rideway permit use or use permits for additional systems and locations. And it expressly says that the county may within its sole discretion withhold approval. So the county can stop expansion of this network right now. Section 3.2 allows the county to terminate the agreement without cause with 90 days written notice. Section 2.11 says upon termination the sheriff must remove the systems and restore county roads where they were installed. So this board does not need to prove any misconduct. It doesn't need to establish a breach of contract or wait for a higher court to determine the constitutional limits of this technology. That's not a debate for here. The question, this is a question of county property and county policy. There's a meaningful difference between a deputy observing a plate during police work and an automated network that records vehicles at camera locations and makes those observations searchable afterwards. I recognize this technology can be useful to law enforcement. I mean, we can all agree on that. But usefulness alone should not determine how much surveillance infrastructure government builds. I'm asking this board to take three actions today. I'm asking you first, stop approving additional ALPR rightway use permits under section 2.5 of the agreement today. Second, begin the termination process of CAO2-00003 and provide the sheriff with the 90-day notice authorized by section 3.2. Third, upon termination, enforce section 2.11 and require these systems to be removed from county rights of way. We can support law enforcement without turning every available surveillance technology into permanent government infrastructure. The county wrote an offramp into this agreement and I'm asking the commission to use it. Thank you.

And Nancy Hazelwood. Good morning, commissioners. It's good to see you again. Nancy Hayeswood, 34110. A nice place. So, this is kind of off the wall compared to what everybody else is speaking about, but I was going over a new ordinance and ran into conditional uses in egg lands. That's section 503. And the purpose says to preserve the rural and open character of various lands within the county. These lands are a lands sites of vital natural water resources functions area with highly productive natural plants and animal communities areas with valuable topography and surf subsurface features all of which are necessary to sustain and enhance the quality of life in the county. So then 503.3 conditional uses the things that can be allowed in a lands parachute jumps amusement parks automobile racetracks medical waste disposal construction and demolition debris dumps sanitary landfell yard trash disposal mining and reclamations sludge septage and other waste disposals wastewater treatment plants auction houses, flea market, drive-in fleet theaters to name a few. So, back to the purpose of the egg district. I would say conditional uses in our cold will destroy our egg lands. All over Florida, egglands have become what people [clears throat] want to preserve and cherish and are essential for our counties. If you look back to the 2050 meeting for public for the public across the county for the 2050 plan, open spaces came out number one and two as what your citizens want to save. It's not just me that wants to save these open spaces. It's your whole county and your citizens. We want to save the woods, wetlands, forests, and pastures. So, of course, it would be devastating in the northeast rural area plan, which is my favorite place in Pasco County. And um it has the Brooksville Ridge, which is a high recharge area, and the Green Swamp in it. So, [clears throat] I'm hoping that the county and I think it's time that you all took a step back and looked at additional uses in your a lands. Please be thoughtful about this before we don't have any left. Thank you.

Thank you,

Mr. Chair. That's that's all that I have signed up. I don't know if you

There's anyone else in the audience who didn't speak that would like to address the board

under public comment.

We're going to close public comment here. We have someone online.

Yes, we have Brian Michaels online. You're being elevated.

Can you Can you make sure he knows that the orange belt was moved, but he can speak if he wants.

Mr. Michael, you probably have heard that um the orange belt item has moved. It's not on today's meeting. My understanding is if you speak today you're you can but um you would not be able to speak again in the future meeting on the item.

Oh no he

Okay. So you could speak on both at both meetings.

Cahil is he elevated?

Okay. Mr. Michaels you're um you're muted. If you unmute you should be able to speak and we should be able to hear you.

Yes. Uh good morning. Um I'd like to reserve my right to speak once the item is put on the agenda if that's our if that's uh possible.

So Mr. Michaels, I misspoke. You have the right to speak now and again in the future when it is before the board. What is what is your pleasure?

Um I'll go ahead and speak now. Um so I'm a bicycle pedestrian advocate for Pasco County. Um, [clears throat] Pasco has the opportunity to uh to pose something that will last for decades, which is the Orange Belt Trail, which 37 milei trail throughout uh Pasco County. Um, we recently or I recently reviewed the alignments for the uh Orange Belt Trail and would would recommend that the board of county commissioners approve the staff recommendations for the the new alignments. Okay.

Okay.

All right. Thank you very much.

All right. Thank you.

Is there anyone else on uh virtually?

Okay. Uh Mr. Canon, you are being elevated. Hold on just one moment. Okay. You should be able to speak if you could just take yourself off of mute, state your name and address for the record, and then begin your comments. Uh, so my name is Jeff Cannon. My address is 9130 Magnolia Street and I just wanted to speak regarding the flock camera situation. Um, I don't know if the county commissioners realize uh when they signed the interlocal agreement um and the sheriff signed uh continuing agreements with the flock safety, there's actually a clause in there that allows flock safety to use Pasco County's data even after the contracts terminated. And the wording basically states that they're allowed to use it for training purposes or to um create better services for those that they provide service to. So the issue there is that basically opens Flock to use Pasco County's data that it's collected indefinitely, perpetually, worldwide, and even after that contract uh is terminated. Why would anybody in their right mind enter into a contract that has clauses in it that lock you into something forever? Now, I know that the sheriff's office defense to this to this part of the the contract is that's so they can share it in office with other agencies. The issue is that's not what the contract says. So I would encourage the board to terminate the interlocal agreement and if we move forward we need to explore what these cameras are really doing and what the contracts really say and I yield my time.

Thank you. Thank you. Um anyone else for public comment virtually?

I don't believe the other two who had previously signed up are on. Is that correct?

Okay. So, Steve Churchbara, you are being elevated. Hold on just a moment. Okay, you should be able to speak if you want to take yourself off of mute and then state your name and address for the record and then begin your comments. Mr. Churchbara. You're still on mute. Mr. Church Vara,

last call.

Oh, here we go.

Here we go.

Looks like you're off of mute. Can you please um state your name and address for the record?

[clears throat]

So, Mr. Churchfire, we are not hearing you and your box is not lighting up when you're if you're talking. Mr. Churchfire, we are not hearing you. All right, we have to move on.

Okay. And then is Mr. Kaden on the virtually or is he not on?

Okay, so that's it, Mr. Chair. No one else.

All right. Thank you. Uh, in light of this U constitutional question on the fourth amendment, I think it's worthy of having a quick conversation with the board. Uh, frankly, I think we've got a ton of emails, not as many as data centers, but um, I think all of us have vis visited to go visit our block camera operation with the sheriff's office. And I want to say this, our sheriff's office team, uh, has done this very respectfully, very responsibly. But bottom line comes into this shared information, uh, the fact of 90 days. I'm I'm uncomfortable going on for another day. I want to see how the board feels if we want to write a letter to the sheriff asking to stop these things now or what what's the what's the pleasure of the board at this moment

to stop what?

To stop these flock cameras from being used in this county.

No, I I I had a a meeting with the sheriff's office yesterday and I'm confident that we are protecting our public's uh identity and they keep the data for 30 days. If you want, you can have Chase come up and

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Can Chase come up? All right, let's have just Chase do a presentation. Chase, come on up, please.

Gina, is that tea up?

As everybody knows, Sunshine L prevents us from talking with each other about any of these items coming before the board. So, um, but in a situation like this, I think it's important enough and Chase, thank you for the work with all of us to show us what you guys are doing. And again, I've got full confidence you've done it right, other than some other counties that haven't, but what you've done has been great. And I think your people are well-intentioned. So I have no negative feelings toward the operation, but the citizens complaints is what concerns me the most. So if you would go and discuss it.

Yes, sir. Absolutely. Uh Chase Daniels, under sheriff community outreach operations, Pasco Sheriff's Office. And uh thank thank you Connor for for pulling up the uh the presentation. Um so this is a presentation that uh that that the members of the of the board have have seen. Um before I begin, I would like to just uh kind of respond to some of the public comment that that we heard today. Um to begin first regarding the Fourth Amendment uh issue. So there was a a ruling in January from the fourth federal district that held that these cameras as long as they are in public rightways uh that there is no expectation of privacy in those public rightways. Um so so to begin first I I want to make it clear to to the board and to the public that all of our cameras are put in public rightways. Uh that is why we have the interlocal agreement. That is why we pull the permits. Um in full disclosure, there are in fact more cameras in Pasco County uh that are owned by entities not the sheriff's office than the sheriff's office. We have approximately 60 cameras. Uh there are approximately 170 in in Pasco County. The other 110 are owned by commercial establishments. They're owned by gas stations. They're owned by HOAs, CDDs. Um so just to be clear on that, not every camera that you see uh belongs to the sheriff's office. Uh and then I would also like to uh to address the public comment. You I certainly understand the the concerns that were raised regarding what happens in other counties. Um and as you'll see, we we have policies and procedures in place that protect Pasco County from from that happening. Um, while I cannot speak to what may happen in Texas or what may happen in another county in Florida, we have had no violations. Uh, in fact, it is a a state law violation to commit an act that that violates this just as with any of the other sensitive data that we have available to us. Uh, and then finally, you know, regress uh addressing Mr. Cannon's concerns again before I get in the presentation. Um, I had the pleasure of speaking to Mr. Cannon on on Friday as well. I certainly appreciate his his passion and his knowledge and his uh experience in this field. um you know we we are aware of that uh provision in in the contract and as this board will see uh that is part of the data sharing agreement that helps us with other law enforcement agencies. Um so there's a success story that I'll talk about uh where a where a young juvenile was found in South Carolina in in approximately 12 hours. That data allows us to share with other agencies

a juvenile that had been kidnapped.

Yes. Yes, ma'am. Uh we we suspect it was possibly being human trafficked. Um thank you very much. Uh, and so that allows us to share that information with other agencies instead of us having to pick up the phone and call every jurisdiction along the way where she was possibly going. It allows that information. Um, and again, that is all governed by our policies. State law allows us to maintain the the data for up to two years. Uh, a county to our south, uh, again, I don't want to speak to other counties um, policies and procedures, but a county to the south of us uh, maintains the data for 180 days. We maintain the data for 30 days and then it is purged from the system. So to address Mr. Canon's concerns regarding in perpetuity and things like that. Our data is purged for 30 days. What?

Let me let me stop you for a second. Yes, sir. So, you say it's purged from our system. What he's talking about is Flock has the data. They're not purging the system. They're keeping the data and they're selling the data.

The it is purged from the from the flock system as well. That that is that that's part of our archer. They they follow our policies. So, whenever we say it's purged for 30 days. So, the in perpetuity. So for instance, if we switch vendors, which we are in the process of doing, uh what what happens with that in perpetuity at the after the end of the contract that Mr. Canon is referring to is for the duration of that 30 days. So if we do a license plate read on the last day of our contract, that data will be held for 30 days by Flock that allows us to search that for 30 days even though our contract has ended with with Flock. Um but it is not maintained by Flock after the 30 days. Uh every agency has different uh standards and procedures and like I said the the minimum in Florida is two years and it's purged by flock. We purge ours after after 30 days. Sure.

And also, Chase, can can you just inform the public how many years we've been using these? And also, you know, if you go to Lowe's, you go to Home Depot, pretty I mean, everywhere that these these cameras are privately owned by other by other people, which you stated, but it really most of them are owned by other people.

Yes. Yes, ma'am. And and then I'll get into the to the presentation if it pleases the board. Um, but but yes, ma'am. Uh so there are approximately 110 cameras in the county not owned by the sheriff's office. As I said, we we own approximately 60. Um so we have had these in the public rightway since the uh interlocal agreement was passed on I believe it was December 10th, 2024. Um prior to that, we did have access to two cameras whenever CDDs or HOAs voluntarily shared that information with us. Uh it's not something we reach out and ask for. Uh or if a if a Lowe's for instance had perhaps a robbery or a burglary and they shared uh their flock data with us. We we did have access to it before then. Um where this really all began was was roughly 2014 with a company named Vigilant and it was used by by tow companies. So they would use license plate readers on tow trucks to know uh perhaps a uh car that they needed to repo or something like that was was driving along. So we did have access to that data uh again on a company willing to share the data with us or a CDD or an HOA willing to share the data with us. Um, for our purposes, we we've had these in the public rightway since December 10th, 2024, that interlocal agreement. Um, and with that, Connor, if you don't mind flipping to the to the next one or the first slide, I guess.

This is a presentation, please. Quiet. Thank you.

Uh, so, so, first of all, I think it it'd be important to address what automated license plate reader is. Uh, and so what you'll see there on the right side, uh, is actually one of our sheriff's office vehicles. Uh for the purposes of this presentation, uh all all the vehicles you're going to see except for for one uh are sheriff's office vehicles. I do have a real life example, uh but we we blacked out the the pertinent information uh in that. Um but so what a what a license plate reader is is it is a still image of the vehicle. So it's a snapshot of single point in time and it's the same view that that any deputy or any citizen uh in the public rideway could could lawfully see. Um and and as I mentioned earlier, they're installed uh with permission. they're placed in the public rightway uh either under permit through the Florida Department of Transportation if it's a state road or with our agreement with with Pasco County um if it is a a county road. Um so the one thing I do want to point out in the in the actual capture um as as you will see uh it is a very narrowly tail tailored picture. Um so you know for instance you know there appears to be a car traveling the other way. Um but with the positioning of of the camera we are not able to to capture any details on that camera. A and also there are no details about who is driving that car. So for instance you cannot see into the the passenger seat or the driver's seat but instead it largely captures the back of that vehicle and uh and its license plate. Um next slide please. Uh so this is what a search looks like. Um and again so this is specific to Pasco County. Uh I just want to be clear that I cannot speak to to other counties or other states. Um but this is what a search looks like for the Pasco Sheriff's Office. Uh so we search by a plate and so what that requires is f first of all not every deputy or every member of the Pasco Sheriff's Office has access to our license plate reader. We require them to go through a training and then an annual refresher training and the their access is reviewed based on on their position. So if someone who is uh certified transfers to another position, we review that new position to see if they still need access and if they don't, we restrict the access. Um you know, at this point we have approximately 400 people uh largely uh detectives and some of our patrol that has access to this out of our 1300 members. Um and then whenever uh whenever you do search, like I said, it is a a read, not a not a recorded video feed. So each result is a still image and that comes with the camera location and and the time stamp. Uh we then also require that the that it be tied to a case and logged. So what that means is every time someone runs a license plate reader scan, it is required to be tied to either a case number or an active call number. We know who made the search and they are also required to type in a robust narrative regarding why they are doing the search. Our policies do not allow it just to say something like

search or bolo. and said it requires a witness told me that the suspect left this location driving a vehicle with license plate ABC123. We we require that level of detail and and that again protects the public but also helps with our investigations because certainly the the court process can take a a a lengthy time sometimes. And so the last thing that we would want is uh one of our deputies to be on on a stand in a criminal case and 5 years later be asked why they they ran a scan and all they had to to go off of was bolo. Instead, we we want that robust narrative to again provide the public accountability and transparency on why that search was run in the first place. Then also to make sure that that we are helping those criminal prosecutions so that those details are are remembered and refreshed by the deputy. And then as I as I mentioned earlier, um our LPR cameras are set to only keep 30 days of of records. That window is is short by our design. Like I said, state law gives us up to two years. Um some counties uh in in this area keep it for 180 days. We we choose by by choice to keep it for for 30 days. Next slide, please. And again, uh I I'll I'll fly through this because this is something we talked about earlier, but this is what they what the actual uh what they actually capture. So again, as you can see in these two pictures, very narrow views on on the camera. Uh there appears to be a car there in that far right lane ahead of the the vehicle. Um but as you can see, we we don't see any any details on that. Um next slide, please. And so then I do think it's important to also make sure that that the board and the public understand what license plate reader cameras do not do. Um so there is no facial recognition. Uh it cannot identify a person by their by their face and there is no ability to to search for images of people. There is no audio. I I know that is something that that we've heard. Um there are some cameras uh that that do collect audio. So it's something that that you guys um may have heard called Shot Spotter. For instance, like the Jacksonville Police Department, I believe the Tampa Police Department um have Shot Spotter. What that does is it listens for sounds of gunshots and then it can trigger law enforcement. They just picked up a sound of gunshots. Uh that is not something we have. We have no intention to to to have that. So our cameras record no audio. Uh and they also record no no video. As I mentioned, they're still shot in a in a point of time. Um so they actually offer uh in some instances less information than a than a standard DOT traffic camera. Um they also have no biometric or ID data. It collects vehicle data only. Uh it's a completely separate database to see who run or or who uh a vehicle is registered to. That's maintained by the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. These these LPR cameras do not tie tie into that. All we know is this license plate went through this intersection at this time. Um again, no no tracking of of people. Uh so they cannot tell tell one person from from

another. And as I showed in the in those sample uh shots, uh they do not even see people at all um because they are not showing anyone who's even driving the the vehicle. And then uh to Commissioner Mariano's concern, again, just to just reiterate, no data sold or shared outside of law enforcement. And that is also pursuant to Florida law. Um so again, the the clause in in the contract that talks about sharing in perpetuity and all that also has a clause that talks about it being governed by applicable law. Uh we've confirmed with with Flock that that is the applicable law is is the Florida state statute that limits this to law enforcement use only. No no no commercial use. Um next slide please.

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uh and and then again I'll I'll brief this because we we've talked a lot about this. Um but again uh 30 days everything has to have an authorized purpose which is tied to a case number or a call number. We have restricted and trained access so only those approved trained users can access the system. Every search is logged with that valid reason. We own the data and then we also uh conduct an audit of our searches to make sure that there is nothing out of the ordinary. For instance, uh we even go so far if if a detective is traditionally assigned to an 8 to 5 shift and they are doing a license plate read at 2 a.m. We know that we have a conversation with the detective say, "Hey, why were you running a search at 2 a.m.? What has happened every time so far?" That detective has been able to to show us and it's been confirmed by their by their time sheets, by their supervisors, by the people on scene that they were called out uh maybe on an investigation. They were working during the 8 to 5 shift and there was a development. they got called out because we we are a 24/7 agency. Um but so we even go so far as to look for searches that are outside of of someone's normal normal time window. Um but to date, you know, again, I'm aware of of concerns and violations that may have occurred in in other agencies. Um but we have had no no violations in the in the Pasco Sheriff's Office. Next slide, please. And then as I mentioned, the these are also governed by by Florida law. Uh so the two Florida statutes that govern these are 316.00 00 or 0777 and 778. Uh the Florida Department of Law Enforcement has also published statewide guidelines. Again, that that limits uh you know, whenever it comes down to that provision that that Mr. Cannon spoke about. The applicable law uh limits this to law enforcement purpose only, no commercial use. Um again, vehicle data, not identities. Again, it is it is the license plate. Uh confidential and case limited. I think this is something that's important to to address um because I I do know um you know one one of the commissioners had a question whenever we were doing uh the demonstrations for for you all regarding public records. So Florida state statute exempts these searches from from public record. So if some company or or entity was interested in the data wanted to do a public record search for all of our license plate scans, they would not be able to to obtain that information. Again, it's confidential exempt under Florida Statute 119. Uh the only exemption to that is for a vehicle that you can prove you're the registered owner of. So if you are ever uh concerned about um you know why your vehicle may have been run or if your vehicle had been run by the Pasco Sheriff's Office, if you can prove you're the registered owner of the vehicle, uh Florida law does give an exemption that that your vehicle becomes public record only to you. Uh and again we we think that's another example of accountability and transparency uh put in place by the Florida legislature so

that they can so that someone can make sure that their license plate is not being run um inappropriate inappropriately. Uh and then uh I I know there will be a discussion uh later today regarding um school zone speed cameras. Uh but so just so uh the board is aware so these cameras are different than those cameras. Uh these cameras uh do not issue any citation. It's an investigative tool. Uh, and in flat floor and in fact, Florida law does not allow us to to use these cameras um for enforcement action, which is why there's a separate statute dealing with uh school zone speed cameras, which I believe you you'll be discussing later today. Um, next slide, please.

Um, and then I do want to address again before you get to the next topic, can you can you give them an example of the severity of cases when you use these plate readers?

Yes. Yes, ma'am. Absolutely. if I can get through this real quick, then I'll get to success stories if that if that's okay with you.

Just so they know like it's it's just for the harshest of crimes.

Yes, ma'am. Thank you very much. Um so, so we do have uh there are three vendors. Uh unfortunately, the these vendors do do not communicate. Um so that that is why you will see that we have uh you know agreements with with Flock Safety, Axon, and Motorola. Again, that that is so these are entities that all of the different counties around us use, some of the businesses around us use. Um so we do have agreements just to to have a uh a full view of of you know what what type of data we we have access to. Um next slide. Uh ne next slide. We've talked about that this is just the the interlocal agreements and the rightaways. Um so to to Commissioner Jagger's point I'd like to talk about about a few examples. Um and so to be clear uh for for the board uh so our policy and again this is this is specific to the Pasco Sheriff's Office. I cannot speak to to to to other counties. Um,

so uh so I I would certainly like to like to point out that uh that our our policy again specific to Pasco um we only allow these searches to be for any felony offense, any offense involving the use attempted use or threatened use of violence against a person without regard to the degree of the offense. any act of domestic violence, stalking or cyberstalking, violation of injunction for protection, a no contact order, or a court order condition of pre-trial release or community supervision, any sexual offense, any offension which a child is the victim, including luring or enticing a child, leaving the scene of a crash, driving under the influence. Uh but again, to to that point, uh we cannot use the camera read as proof of that. So that that basically comes in if someone calls in to FHP or us says, "Hey, I I there's a car swerving all over the road. this is her license plate. That is so a deputy can help locate that vehicle, but then the deputy still has to witness the offense. So if the deputy finds a vehicle and the vehicle is driving at a normal speed, not acting impaired, there is no traffic stop based on on the data alone. Um unlawful discharge of a firearm and improper exhibition of a firearm or other dangerous weapon, cruelty to animals, theft, trespass, uh and any attempt solicitation or conspiracy to commit an offense listed in this section. Um, and I do want to speak specifically to to the trespass as well. Um, you know, thank thanks to our our partnership with with Pasco County, that is something that that we do have uh some of these cameras at county parks, for instance, to to attempt to uh in trespassing on on boat ramps and things like that after hours. Um, but but with those those limited things, I do want to talk about just a couple of um success stories that that come with this. So, this is is a case from uh about two weeks ago. Uh so we received a call from a uh nearby law enforcement agency that they were conducting a murder for hire investigation. Uh a a man was attempting to uh contract with another person to kill that man's wife and uh they had the suspect's vehicle and license plate. Um, so a and through uh partnership with Flock Safety, they had uh conducted a license plate read that showed that the individual, as you see there, was on the Sun Coast Parkway at Highway 54 and had moved into Pasco Sheriff's Office jurisdiction. Uh so we were able to intercept that vehicle and as he was pulling into uh a parking lot suspecting me to hit man, he met a sheriff's deputy instead and was taken into custody. Uh and so he was arrested for uh conspiracy in an attempt to uh you know for for murder for hire. That was that was two weeks ago. License this is the the one um real example. As you see we did black out the the license plate um so it's not visible but uh the these type of real world scenarios uh and again one within just just a couple of weeks. Um next slide. Uh so again some more cases um you know the the case that I spoke about earlier in South Carolina where we had a endangered juvenile that had gotten into

a vehicle. Um, we suspect that that she was going to become a victim of human trafficking. The individual, the male individual she was with actually took her to a location near Columbia, South Carolina. As you can imagine, um, that type of investigation can take days, weeks, months. um you know and and who knows how successful we would have been in in finding her. But thanks to the the camera reads and a witness who provided us the license plate of the vehicle that she was seen getting into um we were able in about 12 hours to to locate that vehicle and local law enforcement in South Carolina uh were able to recover her safely and and arrest the individual. And that goes back to the to the data sharing as I said to allow us to uh share that with a law enforcement a all the way up to South Carolina. Um you know there there are also numerous um you know uh missing juveniles we found. Um and in fact missing persons is is our primary use of of this as you see there on the right. Uh a single LPR hit led unit straight to a missing danger adult who was located and and uh recovered safely. That happens a lot with with silver alerts. When the individual may be driving away in a vehicle they own and a loved one or someone that cares for them gives a license plate. we can really pinpoint where where they are, what intersections they they've gone through, and that allows us to then um re respond to that again within that that very narrow parameter of of what we're allowed to search. Um, next slide. And so again, the these are just some some other uh real life uh examples. Um, so we had a wanted suspect who uh was wanted for domestic burglary. Um, we had a strangulation suspect. We had a a re a repeat retail theft suspect. Next slide, please. um a key individual that was involved in a homicide. Um stolen vehicle alerts. Next slide. And you know, again, there are uh numerous cases um you know, that that go into the the benefits of these. Um in fact, we we had a case with a a stolen vehicle. Um it was being towed by by a tow truck. Uh so the the LPR had a had a hit that showed that that license plate was was active. Whenever the investigating deputy pulled it up, it noticed that the

All right,

Chase, you got a bunch of stuff here, but we got a bunch of agenda.

Absolutely. Yeah. So, so

if anybody wants to see this, this part of the public record, so you can look at it, so that'd be fine. But and and again, I don't have any problem with the way you guys have actually done it.

Problem I comes with like emails that I got earlier. Um, and it also it says this. It says, "I believe the widespread warrantless collection and retention of this information raises serious fourth amendment concerns. The Fourth Amendment protects Americans against unreasonable searches. You've used the word search in this whole presentation probably 20 times. Nobody here, I don't think, in the public wants to be watched by the government over and over again. Well, the work you do with the information is great. However, when you've got a private company that can take this information, especially from what seems to be going on from a report I got from Gain SEC, which I've actually got Todd Bailey from it, looking at to see all these um issues that are going on with it to go check with the data as far as what's being stolen, even from Flock, never mind what Flock's using it for or selling it for. The basic thing is you you use the word unauthorized search. None of the people driving along that didn't give you authorization to me are unauthorized search. Um the compilation of all the data is where the problem is. Not just you're reading a plate sounds great, but it's the data collection and what goes on is where the big problem is. And that's where I think you're getting to where we're stepping over where people don't want all that data put on them which could be used against them and they're not even being served. I mean, we have, you know, Miranda [clears throat] loves to go to go check people out. So, you're going to you're you're under, you know, arrest for whatever, but you're doing searches without any of that information. If the private group wants to go out, like Lowe's wants to have a camera out, if I want to have a Ring camera, which I do, I I'm protecting myself. That's good. But for us to go put in the public right away to collect this data, which could be used who knows how many other ways in a negative way, never mind all the good ways, but the negative ways, to me, goes against the American liberty that we have. So, I'm going to say to the board, whatever you want to do is fine. We can't do this today. But I'm going to tell you, I object to these. I want to see them pulled and and can't be done today anyway. But I think depending on what happens, we'll see what the public wants to say about it. But again, I I got strong uh concerns to it and I do want to see them pulled and I want the contract ended. We do have the interlocal. We can do it, but it's up to the board.

Commissioner Jagger. So, Chase, just to clarify, you said you had to have a case number, correct?

Correct. Or or or an act of call. Yes, ma'am.

So, you're not just searching random people. You're you are you you have to have a case number. You have to be a criminal.

And it has to fall within one of those 14 uh authorized uses.

So, we're not just searching people that are driving to Publix.

Correct.

And the question is is not that they're doing it.

I'm going to call. We got a lot of RS and we got to get them done this morning. This is not on the agenda today. I recommend we bring it back for discussion.

I think we should. Thank you.

I agree with that.

Thank you very much. Yep. I agree with it, too. But again, like data [clears throat] centers, rather than something explode, I want to get the conversation out there. So, Chase, thank you. And again, I don't have a problem with what your team does, but the other issues. Okay. So, consent agenda. We have a few

resolutions.

Resolution. I'm sorry. Resolutions.

Now, now.

All right. We'll go to resolution number one. If you're here um for the celebrating the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States of America, please step up to the podium. [clears throat] Morning.

Good morning. I will go ahead and read the resolution first by the board of county commissioners. Resolution number CA26-5169. Getting feedback. A resolution by the board of county commissioners. I'm going to go ahead and read it even though I hear a little bit of feedback. A resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, celebrating the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States of America. Whereas on July 4th, 2026, our nation commemorated the semiquincentennial anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. And whereas the journey towards this historic milestone is an opportunity to reflect on our nation's past, honor the contributions of all Americans, and look ahead to the future generations who will carry forward the ideals of democracy and individual liberty that makes the United States a unique nation in the world's community. and RAZ. The state of Florida through the Department of State's Division of Historical Resources protects, preserves, and shares our revolutionary war heritage through our museums, conservation labs, collection facilities, archae archaeology programs, master site file, and historical marker. Are the mics off? Okay. uh and historical marker program. Anraz Florida Florida became a US territory in 1821 and was admitted to the Union on March 3rd 1845 as the 27th state and a national society diaughters of the American Revolution is a a non-political women's service organization established in 1890 whose members are linearly descended from patriots of the American Revolution and whereas through the president general's 's leadership. All daughters are spending the next three years illuminating our legacy by celebrating our nation's rich history and diversity, promoting belonging through membership and dedicated service to God, home, and country, and by completing projects in unique local and impactful ways. Andraz from the two from the 250th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party in 2023 until the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Paris in 2033. Daughters are celebrating our nation's rich history and diversity of experience by honoring all men and women who achieved American independence. These patriots believing in the no noble cause of liberty fought valiantly to establish a new nation. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby celebrates the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States of America, done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 11th day of August, 2026.

Move approval.

Second.

All in favor say I.

I.

Well, welcome ladies. Thank you very much for coming forward.

Thank you.

Please. I would just like to say thank you to Pasco County and the Pasco County employees that were very much involved in the two years worth of planning that uh allowed us this celebration that we had on July 4th. Uh East Pasco County Celebrates was the name of our committee. We were recognized in the 119th Congressional Record of the United States Congress for the celebrations that we had here. As it was not just one city and one town, it was a conglomerate of East Pasco County residents, churches, seven schools, students, bands, and the public. We had between six and 700 members of the public that attended. Pesco County provided our fireworks for us out at Earth Park. We so much appreciate that. Everyone had a wonderful time and we thank you very much for recognizing America's 250th birthday and the celebration we had for it. We're proud to be Americans. Everyone's proud of our government and the way our government process works. It allows each and every person here today to be here today to speak to your representatives and have your voice listened to. This is what America is all about. And the Daughters of the American Revolution are here to ensure that we continue to educate the public on [cough] our founding, our government processes, and we hope everyone uh continues to support the American way of life. Thank you. Well, thank you very much. We greatly appreciate you coming forward today. Did you want to speak as well?

Could you I'm sorry. Before we move on, could you state your name and address for the record and very well said?

Oh, thank you. My name is Marie Wonderlick. I live at 9735 Wallist Drive in Dade City, Florida and I am the regent of the Pasco County Daughters of the American Revolution chapter.

Thank you.

Thank you for your great work. Um, I think remembering the history of this country is so important to celebrate it even better. So, thank you very much for coming forward.

I will plug in one bit of advertisement, please. On November the 14th of this year, we will be having our annual US flag retirement. We have collected over 1,000 US flags that are no longer able to fly from East Pasco County residents.

So, the public is invited. It's open to the public. SNS Ranch off River Road November the 14th between 10 and 11. Please come out.

All right. Thank you. I want you to know I won my favorite patriotic tigers for you today.

Should we get on and take a picture?

Yeah. Take his first photo. How do you feel? Can you first start out?

Great. You almost stood in the wrong spot, but

there's not there's no wrong spot.

We are We have got to get done before 11 12.

Do RS2. Okay.

All right. If you are here from Beduko Foods Incorporated, if you could please step up to the podium.

All right, Bill, you're on.

All right. Or we could move this to another

board members. Do you want to move it to another meeting? Yeah.

Want to move it to another meeting?

Obviously, it wasn't coordinated or something.

Another meeting. Are they not here today?

Nope.

All right. I say let's move it.

Let's move it.

We'll continue. We'll bring it back to the next meeting. Back over.

Yeah. Okay.

Move it to another meeting.

Okay. Next meeting. Present.

Very good.

Okay. Now we'll go to the consent agenda. Uh we have a few items for pull. Okay. First one is C25. Pull and discuss. C31 pull and discuss. C46 pull and discuss. C50 pull and discuss. C-55 pull and discuss.

C-55 or C-54?

505.

See See I got I got another one too.

I have I'll get to that.

Okay.

C46 pull and revise and then C-54 pull and revise.

Gotcha.

Are there any other items to be pulled?

Move approval of all items left on the agenda. Second concern.

All in favor say I.

I. I.

Okay. We'll go to item number C25. Commissioner Oakley.

Okay. Uh reason I pulled this was the fact that with all the floods and all we've had over the last, you know, this last couple years or so, um we had a lot of water in the Zephr Hills area. And this project here is actually one of the first projects we're going to start to relieve the water going south out of Zephr Hills. And it will because of this new ditch and all they're going to put there, it'll move quicker out than it than it would before. And this area has always been far back as when I was with Swift Mud. Uh we looked at that area many times and had it cleaned out because it seems to gather a lot of trash and all and slow down the water leaving Zephr Hills. So we're help and that's the start start of uh helping relieve the flood waters from inside Zephri Hills in their local area.

Well remember Commissioner when you're first running for office you were not only on your side take a look at you were watching our side very closely with the flooding. So this is an exciting project to come forward. Um I know you worked hard and I think you've known

all all our board members were actually over there supporting you. Um when the governor came in we had all the flooding going on out there. But yeah,

between that and the four project, uh, I think we're moving in the right direction. So, it is it is a great item.

So, this is a start. It's not a not a fix for everything, but it is a start to the program. So, yeah. Do

I have a motion for approval?

Move approval.

Second.

All in favor say I.

I. Any opposed? Okay. Commissioner Starky C31.

Um, so I wanted to bring this to your attention. I never heard of this. the employment opportunity compliance service. It's not a lot of money, but to me, this is like another like Davis Bacon. So, could someone please explain why we have to do this? And is this another federal issue I need to be bringing up at FAC and Nico? Who's going to talk? Who's going to take it?

What? CEO.

Oh, he's just walking by.

Well,

well, he's up for it now.

All right. Is it an engineer?

He's a good walking around.

I will I will speak briefly to it. Just um you know, the the the equal opportunity compliance is just again this is part of a lap project. And so that's local agency programming. So that is uh those are dollars that flow down from the federal government into the state government and then they're dispersed for various projects. So as such, we follow federal requirements. This is just an example of of additional dollars that we have to expend to ensure that uh there's there's compliance with various aspects of federal rules and that that could be a number a number of things to include uh wages and making sure that all those things are are intact. So, you know, I mean, you can look at it as $55,000 or 5% of the total project cost that is having to go to ensure compliance with rules that,

you know, I mean,

we're already do we're doing it

that we're we're we're bidding and doing a lot of things. So, it's just it's it's really an added cost. So, we'd like Ralph or our federal lobbyists if board members, I'd like them to give us a one pager on this and see if I need to elevate this as another way that we can trim money from the required cost of our contracts and save our taxpayers money.

And and Ralph and I with our lobbyists were in the Department of Labor was it talking about this exact issue. So, this is one we can bring back to them to say not only are we doing it, but we even had to spend money to the tune of doing it, not even internally doing it, just to make sure we're doing it right. And um yeah, definitely I'm glad you pulled it. It is something that's definitely a waste of money. We could follow rules and that's all we got to do is tell us to follow the rules.

I'll take that as direction to pull a white paper back for the board and then we can get to you right to the people lobbyist.

Yes, sir.

Awesome.

Thank you.

We have a motion for approval.

Yeah. Uh move to approve.

Second.

Sadly.

All in favor say I.

I. Any opposed?

Okay. All right. Item C46.

This item here, I pulled it just for a reason that um I don't know if we got enough capacity with Newport Richie. Um there were three items put through that had to get looked at. One got recommended. We had a committee look at it. Uh they did recommend it, but I'm not comfortable with moving forward with it. It'll be up [clears throat] to the board. And again, they they probably couldn't research the my concerns that I had.

So I I'll bring Adalfo up real quick from utilities. He can speak at least to the concerns over capacity at the Newport Richie wastewater plant.

Morning, commissioners. Adalfo Gonzalez, utilities engineering and contract management director. Commissioner, based on the daily the daily monitoring reports we received from the city of Newport Richie's wastewater plant. They're currently at about 61% of the permitted capacity. So they have capacity to treat up to 7 and a half million gallons per day of waste water at that facility. Uh we are an equal partner in the use of that facility. Right now about half of the flow they're treating comes from uh Pastor County customers and half from the city customers portal which is around four and a half MGD out of the 7 and a half MGD that have permitted capacity at that site. So as far as we know the plant has no uh stressors that are affecting their operational abilities to treat waste water coming into the plant.

Okay. Um let me ask Mary a question. Thank you mayor. If this and this has to be done today, which is why we're bringing it forward, otherwise you would have continued it. But if this turns out there is no problem, uh, we're fine. If there is a problem that we find out, we look at is this something we can then put a thing to revoke our support.

Morning. Good morning, commissioners. Mary the Young Community Development. This is just the approval for them to apply for the 9% tax credit from the state. Yeah.

Um the project still needs to come through all the planning, all the permitting and everything through the county. This is just a financing structure.

Okay. All right. So, with that, I'm okay if we do move it forward. So, I'll take a motion.

I also approval

I also have a um revise on the C certification that was submitted was the incorrect one and I have submitted the correct certification.

Okay. So,

move approval.

Second.

All in favor say I.

I.

Thank you.

Uh item C50. I just pulled this just for the one reason of if this property tax amendment goes through, we're paying I think it's either 60% of the cost, they're going to pay 40% of the cost. It is our kids, but if this thing goes through, this puts this agreement type in jeopardy. The people have been aware of it that if we do have an off-ramp, uh it is there that if this property goes through, we may not be able to complete the project or put more fees in place to make it happen. So, with that, I'm okay with approval. Move approval.

Second.

All in favor say I.

I.

Okay. In C55, Commissioner Way was going to pull this. It's just a positive thing. Um,

finally. Finally.

So,

sure. Ask Nina Elen from Go Pasco.

Okay.

Good morning, commissioners. the Pasco director. So, I'm happy to see that this is finally make it to the agenda and it's going to be approved. This will provide, you know, additional mobility options for our um residents in the area of Hudson and Shady Hills. So, we're very excited.

That's going to be a great great item. Great great to see it come forward. Hopefully, it's going to lead to more and more innovation. So,

yes. Thank you.

Great. Thank you.

If the board wants, we do have a representative from that company here if you want to hear from them.

Um, you want to say a couple words? Yeah,

sure she does.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Um Claudia Miro, vice president at Freeb. We are super excited. Um have had many conversations about this last couple of years. So we're very excited to come um bring our microtransit program here to Pasco County. So thank you very much and to the great staff, Nina, James Flity, everybody's been great with us. Thank you.

Awesome. Okay. Right there. Have

approval.

Second.

All in favor say I.

I.

Okay. And item C54.

Oh, no. You got 46. C46. Sorry. 46. Well,

46. Did 46.

And I have a question on that one.

I think 46 is a duplicate.

Yeah, we just did 46. Yeah,

I know it's on here twice, but we did it already.

Okay.

All right. So, C-54. Um, this is just a feel-good thing, etc. with a with great improvement for the pull and revis.

Good morning. Uh, Tim Moody with the better future program. I report to Chuck Lane who has accomplished.

Okay. And the basic motion for this pull and revise is you're taking the term from what would have been a 20-year contract to keep it affordable housing has now been agreed uh to go to a 100red-year contract uh to keep it affordable housing. And I want to put a special thank to uh the Vincent House is such an awesome organization. Uh David Lambert from with Lagui Electric Company, the best electric company in the planet uh wants to see this go as well. So when this came up in conversation yesterday, you guys had your conversation. He agreed to go with the hundred years. That just shows you the commitment to the affordable housing which this program is all designed about. So again, I want to thank Mr. David Lambert for doing just a phenomenal job and keeping to the mission. This phenomenal phenomenal project.

I do have a question. Um so uh and I love the project too. Um so this is to complete the last segment of it. Is that correct? This may be a Kathy or or David question more than you cuz cuz Tim is our consultant for for the public. Tim's our consultant for our CDBGDR money. He's not necessarily involved with Vincent House, right? Yeah. Because I did the math and this takes us to 9,215,000 from the county. I didn't I I've got four or five years of CDBGR money or CDBG money and then this is CDBGDR money that's gone to Vincent House. So, does this complete?

This completes this project. Yes.

Okay. Awesome. And so, there's 30 no 24 in this one and 15 in the prior.

Yes, there are 39 units total for the housing, but I don't think 9 and a half million. I think that was total for the building, too.

Okay. One of them went to um the Vincent Academy Adventure Coast.

Yes, that's the housing. That's the housing.

Okay. Million and a half. All right. All right. So, was there any other funding that went to this project?

Sure, there's federal funding that came into this project that Congress Congressman Bill Arachus got us. Also, there was over a million some dollars in private donations that came to this project as well. So, multiple donations

around the county to to make this project go. So,

Okay. Well, I'm in support. I just wanted to check on the members if we're done.

Move approval.

It's complete. Thank you.

Yeah.

Have a motion to second. All in favor say I.

I. Again, a fantastic project. Okay, now we're going to go to time certain 11 o'clock. Natasha Sherwood, CEO of MK Skills.

Natasha Sherwood, 3511 Catin Bloom.

Hey Mike, stay for a second.

Oh, okay.

3511 Cat and Bloom, Les, Florida 33558, CEO of AM Skills. Um, newly appointed. I'm just here to introduce myself. I've got a chance to meet both of you. Excited to see what we can do with the building and with the individuals and how much more training we can advance. Um we are uh already moving and meeting just yesterday with new bu new new business coming in offering them opportunities of apprenticeship. We're reaching out. We are actively involved in two pay for performance grants from the department of labor that will bringing money in for infrastructure buildout as well as um ship building and defense industry manufacturing. So, we'll be looking forward to bringing that in as well. And advancing additional um trainings in forklift training, electrical, which we just did our first boot camp with electrical training, two hires from that as of yesterday. I know Katherine will be excited about that one. [laughter] And in additional um HVAC, plumbing, and um a ship building defense manufacturing. Other questions?

Natasha, what I really need you to do today, and I'm sorry if you're being bashful and shy, but I need you to talk about who you are and where you've come from and how you got here. one of my hardest things. My um I am a fifth generation Flian and a great great grandfather great great great great-grandfather homesteaded pasil prior to that I have been in but prior to working with Amskills I have been a K through2 principal at a private school I have worked in education from everywhere Busch Gardens Moffett cancer center but most recently with the independent electrical contractors in Florida west coast I started in 2019 and took our program from a red um owing money to we now had $800,000 in the bank in a million dollar building we had 200 apprentices and now have 700 100 apprentices across the state of Florida. Started two new chapters in Tallahassee and Jacksonville. Contracts with the Pineellis Technical College, Pascal County School System, Pulk County School System, Hillsburg Community College across the state, as well as sitting on the state apprentichip advisory council, the state CTE council, and I sit as president of Florida Apprentichip Association across the state. I also work with the Florida Commerce and the Career Source Florida grant for pay for performance from the Department of Labor. In addition, sit with um jobs for the future which is a national department intermediary. Manhattan strategy groups which is the admin intermediary for the um multi-state manufacturing just announced yesterday. In addition also travel across the country working on workforce development most recently and the reason this doesn't scare me is in front of Congress with a fiveminute time limit for the department of higher education workforce development.

Yes. So we we have hired the best person in the state of Florida to uh take AMP skills to the next level. So, I'm really excited to have you here.

Super excited.

Um, [clears throat] does anyone else have any questions or

I'd just like to say that's quite a resume you just ripped right off. [laughter] Uh, so this is kind of like back to when we got a superstar like Bill Cronin to come in to to have these

Yeah.

CEOs pick you. U looks like did a did a great job. This is exciting times.

And I mean Natasha is a national expert on on workforce training and apprenticeships. Um, recognized in Washington. um good friend of our new uh

commissioner of education

commissioner of education Henry Mack and um I just am really excited to be working with Natasha uh going forward. So she's got a real passion for this. I can tell you that to work with you real soon.

Absolutely. If there's anything feel free to reach out. We're ready to add some more training over there and get it full and loud.

All right.

Thanks, guys.

And we have another speaker.

Um I wanted you to uh hear a wonderful story. I've texted Danny Burgess, Senator Burgess. He's all about homeschooling. So, I said, Danny, if you're free, turn on the TV. It's so that you can hear um this program that we have at Ampskills. So, introduce yourself.

Hello, my name is Dina Fox and I'm the founder and director of Class Source. We are in our 23rd year of a nonprofit serving the home education families in the Bay Area. We've worked with thousands of families and thankfully the step up for students scholarship and FTC UA FEP UFTC PEP program became a new um method of meeting educational law in the state of Florida. This is the fourth year of the program. The program has allowed me to partner with vocational training experts. My first one and only one at the moment is Amskills because they are excellent and we're in our third year of that program. In the two years that we've had graduates from our program, our students have outperformed the public schools by 400%. The average

Can you say that one more time?

In the first two years of our program, our graduates have outperformed the public schools by 400%. The average 9 through 12 vocational student in the state of Florida gets one manufacturing certification. Our students in four semestered earn six. The reason this works is that we've cut the red tape and parents are at the helm. The students take it because they want to and they are motivated. our students received, two of our students um chose to apply for every Bright Future scholarship and for the first time manufacturing students that are homeschooled have achieved the Cape Bright Future Scholarship.

This is in the state of Florida.

Florida.

They're the first two.

They're the first two ever that the industry knows of. I did not realize what a big deal this is because I'm very busy helping parents homeschool and setting up classes for my program. But I was honored to go to the Bama dinner and apparently they were very excited about it because boy do I have a stack of business cards to call someday. But because I am the principal, I don't have time right now. Um, I wanted to tell you that home education is going nowhere. It is thriving and we have results. Not only did our students achieve that Cape Scholarship, they achieved the academic scholarship as well. but they're choosing to go into vocational fields because it is the future. I would love for you to come by Class Source at any time and see what we are doing there. The manufacturing portion happens at the MSKills facility in Holiday on Fridays, but our classes are in person Tuesdays and Thursdays all day and we have everything from soup to nuts going on. This year we also launched our dual enrollment partnership with Palm Beach Atlantic University and home education students will get to take dual enrollment classes in person with professors at our program. We are very excited. This scholarship has given us the means to enter the vocational field because vocational education is not cheap and home education families are not willing to put their children into a system to get that vocational training that they are protecting their children from. I would encourage you to really look closely at what you can do to support home education families in being the future workforce that you're looking for. Our students have become interns for Pasco County Utilities. We now have our first employee of Pasco County Utilities and we also have um several of our students employed in area manufacturing companies that they get the opportunity to meet because of a skills. We want to expand this program beyond manufacturing into electrical and HVAC and every other realm that we can give them hands for because the home education family is looking for the old way of being an apprentice. And Amskills has figured that out beautifully. Thank you so much for letting me talk to you guys today. And Burgess, hi. Jason says [laughter] hello too. Hope you're watching. I do happen to serve on the board for the home education foundation which is the lobbyist for home education in the state of Florida and get to work with Tallahassee regularly and it's a pleasure to get to talk to my local people because I know this is a this is where really matters and touches our lives. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you very much Commissioner Starky. Thanks for bringing these two ladies forward and make this a time to make sure

you didn't know about this. Did you?

No, I didn't know. And I tell you what, I I want to get with Bill Cone and David Angel and everyone else to try to push AMP skills to go more of this training because exactly what we got a big project we're working on too. So delighted to be my pleasure.

Thank you.

Appreciate you. You know, I was I was listening um I watched a real I think it was on X and I don't remember who the gentleman was, but he was uh discussing that he had just had a conversation with the CEO of Ford Motor Company. And Ford currently has 5,000 open auto mechanic jobs across the country.

500,000.

Oh, 500,000. Yes. Paying show that video.

One $120,000 a year for a technician and they cannot find the people.

Mhm.

And they are very very worried. very worried. Oh yeah. So

the whole country needs programs like

so excited you brought him forward. It's awesome.

Okay, so we still got a bunch of things to do, but Bill Cronin,

Pasco EDC quarterly update. Bill, try to go quick if you can. We got two more things try to get behind me before.

Put my best auctioneer voice for you today. [laughter] And uh uh thank you again. I'm pleased to be presenting our third quarter results forou uh in agreement with the board of county commissioners. I do have copies uh of the presentation. Thank you.

Second.

All in favor say I.

I.

And let me just first say what a pleasure to hear about the talent that we've got coming into the area as well as uh the focus on workforce. When we go out to recruit companies and have companies move here, talent is still the major driver. I mean, land is is is great. Buildings are just buildings anywhere in the United States, but it's the people. and uh the partnerships that we've shown here continue to actually bring us those results. Um as I go forward here, starting out with our presentation, I was asked to just put little executive summary at the beginning of where we're at with our wins. Uh so far this year, we've had 12 wins. Uh that's companies that have chose to move here or expand here that are here to create jobs or new capital investment. Speaking of which, 127 million of new capital investment that we didn't have before uh just in the first nine months of this year, 275 new jobs and 694 jobs retained. So that means the companies that we're working with here uh on competitive projects that might have moved when they start looking at real estate in other places. So that's uh taking care of the people who brought us here is probably the most important thing we do. Um, as far as new square footage, over 141,000 uh new buildings in the area and um I'm sorry, 331 total um square footage new 141 of existing. So, they're actually using some of those existing spec buildings and flex buildings that uh that you all saw saw built in the past. Average wages uh most of them are above our county average. Some are as high as $130,000. Um, some really good wages, but a good mix and making sure that we've got the right jobs for everyone. So, real quick in terms of uh our three mission focus areas, start, move, and grow your your business here in Pasco County. Uh, the start piece of course is reference our uh startup community with smart start and our entrepreneurship programs. uh we hosted an event for uh microloan um donors. So, so far we've had over 2.6 million dollars of microloans that we've issued out to local small businesses that can't uh get a loan from a bank. Uh that all came out of about 1.6 million in funding. That means we have over a million dollars that has been uh recirculated or revolving now on the street. So, the program is working and growing. Uh we've had a total of 650 uh I'm sorry 732 businesses uh attended our workshops from SmartStart and uh so far we've had at least 24 events that we've represented uh and got the word out of what's available for our local businesses through the Smart Start program and through the incubators. 20 companies launched uh in Q3. 12 from West Pasco, uh 15 from the Grove, and 27 from East Pasco here in this side of the county. Uh just a reminder, the 12 that we're talking about in West Pasco, that's co-located with our friends at AMSKills that we just heard from. Uh we've had 54 companies to date uh that launched this year out of the Smart Start program. As far as recruitment goes, I touched on some of the larger

projects there. Uh, but we've had 48 meetings and presentations uh to different entities that are part of that site selection process and had 18, I'm sorry, nine uh in-person meetings with those uh decision makers in other areas. So, for example, uh we just had some of our staff up in Minnesota. Uh called on some companies there at six target industries that are interested in moving to to Florida. And then uh promoting the domestic uh market going through the United States, there's still a lot of people that want to move to Florida. So we actually get out and attend those shows with our partners like Bio International which we co-arketed with Moffett and Spiros about our life sciences projects. So uh three new leads in this quarter but 17 new projects. Uh that's pretty strong to have that many projects convert um into projects. of those different submissions that we've had for RFPs, we've had five uh that include our ready sites just this last quarter, 16 to date uh for the year and over 28 RFPs altogether that we've responded for people looking for sites for their business. move on to the retention piece of it. And this is really a a good uh indicator of the health of our business community because this is uh the existing business that we have that we're helping to grow. And that's again where we spend most of our time is with existing business. Not getting uh new business here, but helping the ones that have already come here to help them to grow. uh we've had uh 44 meetings with companies that had challenges and that's helping them to grow to help remove obstacles. I'll have another slide to talk about some of those things that they experience and how we help them. Um also 50 different referrals to apprenticeship programs and workforce development partners like AMSkills. So when somebody asks about talent uh we work together with our partners either in a joint presentation or referral and then uh we've had 79 participants of existing businesses here with local uh business retention expansion resources including a workshop we did with the sheriff uh not too long ago webinar. uh of that we've had uh company visits 44 year to date and addressed 71 different issues yearto date and you see the different categories of what they're looking at in terms of challenges that most of our businesses uh are calling about. Um right now technical assistance is by far uh the biggest thing that challenge that they've had had out there. um still getting some on the permitting, licensing where we work together with the county staff to help shepherd them through that process. And now the of course the county has a new program uh with that small business uh reach reach program that's going to help them with permitting and uh and getting through the process. And then also uh workforce again tends to be one of our biggest challenges is people want to make sure they're getting the right people when they're making that investment. So as we grow uh there's more and more people here and we have to help get those

people to the right employers. That's what's going to make them succeed. And then overall for our business development, uh we've got 75 projects out there right now. And in the that pipeline from this year, we've had 149. Um in that most of them are still coming internationally. And uh and some of those are big, some of those are small, but that means we're getting the word out. uh domestic recruitment little uh about three quarters of that total and then local business is about a third of that. Of the wins that I I showed you before, uh we've had seven that were local expansions, we've had two foreign direct investment uh wins this year so far and three domestic recruitment. If you look at the uh the number of leads that we've got coming in, the leads uh compared to projects still pretty strong. Um, and again, back when I first got here, we were working about 35 projects at any given time. So, uh, the bandwidth is has increased, but so has the quality in our product. And I think one of the coolest things you're going to see coming up in the next uh year or so is a lot of those projects that came say 10 years ago, those incentive deals are all starting to um u uh sunset, meaning that you're going to start to see the full tax benefit of all of those companies that are coming in. And if you didn't know, those those projects that we bring in that you all vote incentives on, as time progresses, the value that they bring to the community goes up over time. And at 10 years, it gets really high because they're paying full taxes at that point. Whereas, uh, for example, housing, we get the initially get some money on impact fees and things like that. But the cost of service, we start to see a decrease. So, it's a direct inverse relationship between what we're doing on those commercial deals and what we're doing on residential. So, I've got an intern um from London that's with us through the summer uh master's degree candidate and he has done a study that I'm going to bring back to you guys at a future workshop uh to show that relationship and to show where some of these are starting to really kick in right now from the work that you all did uh back 10 years ago. And then marketing, still telling our story, um, letting other people tell our stories. 5.4 million to date this year and earned media. And that's where other people talk about us, not not just us. And then where are they coming from? Uh, a lot of them now from Florida are looking at Pasco. Uh, I saw the chamber recently, uh, the Florida chamber quoted Pasco as as one of the the best and fastest growing communities in the state. And that's getting a lot of attention from our counterparts around the state. They want to know what we're doing up here. And then private sector, 92 total investors. Uh we've had four new investors this quarter. Adams and Ree, uh Bandis Construction Company, Barbvis Kramer, and Frederick Watkins out of Tampa. We've got uh about 524,000 as of the end of third quarter in private donations and about 100,000 in

event revenue that's also from our private side. So, um we're looking forward to uh this next hopefully next meeting uh talking to you about the a longer term contract with the Pasco EDC. Uh but also want to get on your calendars October 1st our 38th annual awards to celebrate our local communities uh businesses and the legacy uh award for our leadership award which will be for Mr. Michael Sierra. So I will stop there and see if you all have any questions. How

do any questions?

No. Good job.

All right, Bill. Thank you very much. Greatly appreciate it.

Thank you. In the interest of time, there's a item item R58. I'd like to go to that item before we hit the uh other R61 item. I think it's this is something that I read the agenda item and I was afraid of it. Um it turns out that this is a a product that I looked at months ago and I thought it was a great project. So, I want the people to come up and speak to it. Morning everybody. My name is Jeffrey and I'm the traffic operations manager for

Speak up a little bit please.

Yes, sometimes that speak to the mic. Yeah.

How's that?

Yeah.

Okay. Um morning everybody. My name is Jeffrey Monolian. I'm the Pasco County traffic operations manager. Um we're going to have a discussion today about the school zone speed cameras and um the Intella Road school zone safety system pilot program. How do I go to the next slide? This you got it. All right. The first part is the school zone speed cameras. Um some of the enabling legislative rules. this came up with House Bill 657 um which authorized counties and municipalities to begin this program and um enact an ordinance at their discretion to use the speed detection systems which are similar to the red light running cameras um for any violations of drivers going over 10 miles per hour over the school zone speed limit. Um, some of the other legislative rules are the Florida state statutes uh 1896,95 [snorts] and 94 which basically allow for enforcement of speed limits in school zones uh establishment of school zones and to establish school zone uh school crossing guard recruitment and retention programs. Next slide. Um so some of the school zone detection systems in surrounding counties and municipalities um Hillsboro County they have the ordinance adopted and their program is active. Manatee County um they had their program established in I believe it was 2023 and then it was discontinued in 2025. Um Penllis I was not able to find any activity for Penllis County. Citrus County is working on their ordinance. Hernando, the board voted no for the program. Uh Sumpter County, same as Hillsboro and Pole County as well, they have adopted the ordinance and their program is active. Um Newport Richie, last time I spoke with them, they were working on going through procurement and installing their cameras. Um and Date City, again, last time I spoke with them, they were working on establishing their ordinance. Next slide please. So the major steps and timeline for getting this uh program established and installed. Um the ordinance adoption would be our next step after this meeting. Um we would work through getting the ordinance in and then we would have to have interlocal agreements with the city of Newport Richie Effer Hills and with the Pasco County Sheriff's Office. Um after that would be our community awareness plan. Uh getting all the information out to all of the constituents in Pasco County so that they know what uh this includes. Then procurement and installation. Um

if I could stop you. I wanted to do this because I thought it was going to be real quick, but I got I got a little concern as far as this goes with the with the cameras. Um it says while collecting non-personally identified information. What does that mean?

Non-personally identifiable information. No, no face. They can't identify you specifically.

But you're taking a pictures of plates.

All right. I thought it was a different type of warning system.

So that's different. That is the Intella Road system and um they're here to speak about that. I'm speaking specifically about the um schools on campus.

All right. I'd like to I'd like to hear about that as again we just talked about with

Are we voting on this today? Wait, can we he finish his presentation?

I can run through it with faster if you

Yeah, I think he's only got a couple more slides once you get to your data. And then really what we want direction from the board is is uh do you want staff to proceed and bring back an ordinance on this?

Correct.

Go ahead.

Continue.

All right. Next slide.

Uh interlocal agreements. So for Newport Richie and Zephr Hills, we need to establish an interlocal agreement to borrow their special magistrate to act as the local hearing officer, uh the interlocal agreement with Pasco County Sheriff's Office is for them to hire road traffic infraction enforcement officer to issue the citations and it will be a hired position at no profit to the sheriff's office. Next slide. Resource requirements. Um, we have properly established school zones throughout uh, Pasco County with all the requirements set by FDOT. The vendor will install the cameras and maintain the cameras and then the personnel will be taken care of by interlocal agreement. Next slide, please. Revenue management citations. Um, they are $100 per infraction. The revenue is divided as shown. $20 to the Florida Department of Revenue, $60 to the county or municipality, $3 to law enforcement and criminal justice, $12 to county school district, and $5 to school crossing guard retention and recruitment program. Um, any additional costs that would be a part of the program would come out of the $60 that come to Pasco County. So, that would be the money to the special magistrates and to the sheriff's office. Next slide, please. So, the location data, when we started working on the draft ordinance, when this came up, um there was, I believe, 30 or 31 school zones that were identified by the sheriff's office and the school board for um they typically had issues. So, we went through and gathered data on the posted speed limit, 85th percentile speed, active school zone speed, um, arrival and dismissal times, and then the average speeds that people were driving during those times to determine if there was an identifiable issue that would pose a concern to the students. Um, I don't know if you guys want to go through each one individually, but from what I'm seeing, you've got five out of six that are all in looks like district two. That commissioner is not here today,

correct? Okay. Go ahead.

That's it.

Luka,

you want to go ahead and bring up Intella Intella Systems and then work can have additional discussion?

Absolutely.

All right. So, I'll introduce them. This is the Intella Road School Zone Safety System pilot program. um they're going to go through the specifics of the program and what their product does and then get um your guys' input on it.

I think it's still morning. Good morning everybody. Appreciate the commission and and everybody's time here today. Uh my name is Sean P. I'm managing director of Intelli Road. Uh we are a wholly owned subsidiary of Kira Solutions which is based in Lakeland, not too far from here. and uh we are here to present a alternative solution around school zone safety. We've obviously heard all the concerns about your constituents around public safety the uh how the data is being used uh different versions of PII and tracking and other aspects and we take a different approach to this. Uh formerly prior to joining cure solutions in Intelli Road, I worked at the US Department of Transportation, we say all the time uh as public servants or former public servants uh we don't want to do what we used to complain about. Uh we listen to the constituents and hear and come up with innovative technologies to either complement or serve as alternatives to what's in the marketplace today. Um so very quickly I want to uh just talk about how our solution works and how it's different. Yes, this is a camerabased detection system. However, uh what we are not doing is we are not storing any video. We're not collecting video. We're not collecting license plates. We're not collecting facial recognition. There's absolutely none of that. There's no PII, no tracking um involved in our system. And let me be very clear that the county owns all of the data uh that is collected. What we are collecting is we're using the detection pole there. Uh you see the two cameras on top that point in each direction. Uh what that does is it does a real-time monitoring of traffic. So it creates a unique identifier. That way everything is kept anonymously. So we just know there is a vehicle traveling in this direction at this speed. uh we know how long it takes uh to identify the signs and how long it takes for that vehicle at their rate of speed and direction to make a safe stop prior to uh being in the intersection uh or in the crosswalk where kids and parents and others are crossing. Um so with that in mind, we're able to uh in real time detect the traffic. We also have the other camera in the middle that is looking at the crosswalk itself. Again, no PII, no collection of of any personal identifiable information. Um, and all we are doing is when an individual is in the crosswalk, it will automatically trigger the beacons that you see. Uh, we have seen studies across the state of Florida that there is upwards of an 80% non-compliance rate of pushing the button before you cross an intersection. If you don't push the button, it's just a static sign. All the other data that goes behind it doesn't doesn't help. So what we're doing is using uh this passive detection system to automatically trigger those those warning lights only when a pedestrian is present. Um then uh well we can we can move to the uh the benefits uh for the county. Uh again this is a alternative uh type of solution uh to whether it be speed cameras, whether it be the flock

style cameras that's that's been discussed. Um this is first and foremost to improve safety uh bring awareness to drivers and to the pedestrians because the one piece uh that I didn't mention on the previous slide is the ability that if we know a vehicle cannot make a safe stop, we can issue audio alerts into the crosswalk uh directly to the pedestrians to let them know that there's an unsafe condition. Uh we do work very closely with FDOT. We're also in direct communications with federal highways and working with them to ensure all of this is MUTCD compliant and does meet federal specs and regulations about what types of messages can be said because there are obviously a lot of concerns. You don't want to tell somebody to to give them a direction and it ends up causing an accident. So we do adhere to that. Please

and if you have a deaf student or then obviously there's no way to communicate with them,

right? Um so we do have multiple ways. Uh for the first pilot it would be the beacons and the audio alert. Uh we do have additional uh items that we can do uh within our system to whether it is uh send geoence uh location based messaging directly to cell phones. Uh with existing apps, nobody wants to download another app. We got a million of them on our phones. Um but the school safety apps we can integrate into those directly and send push notifications only within that crosswalk or say five meters on each side to let folks know. Um we also have the ability that we'll be rolling out in the future for also incar messaging directly to those vehicles uh through CarPlay uh with partnerships uh not only with the county the state but also through things like Google Maps, Apple Maps and other aspects. So, uh, the crossing guards as well. This is not to replace any crossing guards. They are vital to the community. Um, and they're quite frankly I've spoken to several of them around the state. Uh, and we've deployed this in Pulk County and, uh, speaking with them there. Uh, the kids love them. They were in favor of our technology as well. And we're looking at the alternatives. What would be most effective to communicate with you? We're talking about maybe wristbands that vibrate, other aspects to be able to give them a notification, advanced warning as well of unsafe conditions. They described areas to us where they would stick the arm out to the side before they would walk because they were nervous about traffic and other aspects. So

the only the only thing I would say having teenagers, they're not they would probably say, "I'm not wearing that bracelet."

No, no, no. That's just the crossing guard. Okay.

Just the crossing guard so that we can communicate directly to them as well to give them those notes.

Yeah. It's like our school where I live our school zone there is no crossing guard

right.

Yeah. So

and so the first step is the beacons and the warning lights as well as the uh audio alerts. Uh second phase as we because we're we're very big on the the pilot to deployment aspect. Use the evidence base show the benefits to the county and to the the constituents that you serve before ramping this up. Um we will look at other types of technologies. We already have inbuilt uh cure solutions does a lot of transportation technology. We manage traffic management centers around the state as well as we've provided connected vehicle solutions to many tolling agencies. FDOT as well manage that connected infrastructure. So we have deep knowledge in that space and already inbuilt systems. For us it's like layman's terms it's like a light switch. Which which one over there do you want to turn on based on the features that you want? That way it's customized for each roadway and and each users in that area as well.

Commissioner Oakland.

Yeah.

I came here today with reservations about this project because it seemed like in counties near us, our neighboring counties were saying their people all upset getting tickets this and that. And then I think about it further and I said, "Well, the reason they're upset is they're speeding in the school zone."

Yeah.

So the only way it's not safe without them. So the only way you can correct that is start doing something like this but bring them aware that they need to.

So I want to draw a stark comparison though because our system yes we are not collecting no PII. Yeah.

You're not issuing tickets. This is a separate

those counties are getting tickets. So correct.

I understand that but

and we've seen

we still need to u make sure it's safe in the school zones.

Absolutely.

I couldn't agree more.

Mer.

Yeah. Um I know we have another representative for the other for Red Speed. Um could we give him a couple minutes to talk about his the product?

Okay.

All right. just so we can hear both

because I I will say um one of one of the things that concerns me is if people are not getting a real warning like a citation then what makes them slow down? You know what I'm saying? And the other thing is one thing that one thing that I like from the the other program is that whatever money the county collects, I would love it to use it for sidewalks to fill in all the gaps of the county and see if the school board would put their money that they collect. And I'm only saying and I have Chase here too. I my thought on these these cameras if we went that direction would be however many an hour before school an hour after school never on the weekends never when school's in session truly just targeting when kids are crossing. So if I could have a representative from Red Speed come up just

I want to ask I want a couple more questions before we

Okay, that's fine.

All right. So, the thing that I liked about this program and and red light cameras, people get hooked on the revenue one way or the other, whether it be sidewalks, this, that, the other thing. And you're not going to control the state. The state still wants a cut of their money, too. So, I don't know if they got to get that away from them. Um, but I I I just find that if you want to really make it safe, putting out better notification for people is a better is a better way to go. I've driven down and even just down and put Richie Midp lock in front of that. Not many people like u one of the side roads. Anyway, it's it's like you're driving up to it. Is it is it warning? Is it safe? Is it not? You can drive little road straighter, which you don't really show a problem on it, but it's a 45 mph road. Goes down to 20. And if you're driving along six lane, if you're on the outside lane, you don't see the stuff on the side. Does it need to get looked at? Yes. What they'll do is they're going to look at every single area, isolate them, and if they wanted to take the six areas, they can go put detection. And if we found that after they put their data in or their their machinery in to go kind of warn people to slow them down so they have better notification and clearly when a school zone is going on that you could actually then take another step to go take further because the data they'll show you is like how many speed is going etc etc continually but also warning and and affecting and I think getting a better result without going through all this data collection that what I just saw earlier today with these flot cameras. Same type of thing. And again, with the cities, um, you know, they love the red light cameras, they're going to love this, too. I just don't want to see it proliferate. I think this is a much better solution.

So, thoughts on after we hear from Redspeed, thoughts on both.

Okay.

As a warning system and then if people are speeding, I don't know. I just feel I feel very strongly about kids safety

and um

if no one's enforcing it I you know I'd be for both but I would like to hear from Red Speed as well.

Absolutely. If I could just make one more point on on this as well and I agree with you the kids safety is is primary focus here. Um one thing that we are doing like with with PK County they do have speed cameras throughout PK County. Uh this isn't a one or the other type of solution. uh we we can put it in areas where we complement the existing speed.

Yeah, that's what I was saying. Both.

Yeah. Or it can be an al alternative for other counties who have removed those types of ordinance. So totally

they want to be very very clear on that.

Y thank you.

Yes ma'am.

And red speed you have about two minutes so talk quick then it's lunch time.

Good morning uh chair commission. I can be well under two minutes. I appreciate the opportunity to speak and I do want to echo the other gentleman. Ours is complimentary to that. I think they'd work great together. I'm not familiar with it till today, but we'll be willing to explore it. [sighs] We uh Redspeed is the uh largest provider of automated school zone cameras. Uh we serve about 70% of the market in Florida and a case study directly south of you is Hillsboro County where we've been for a couple years now. and speeding is down 95% in school zones since we've been there with a very low repeat violator rate that it is modifying behavior and I do want to concur with Commissioner Joerger and I mentioned most of the folks that some method of enforcement or stick and carrot work well together to modify behavior and I think our solution is proving that. So, and also ours comes at no taxpayer expense. And I totally concurred, no government should do this for the money, but if you don't have to invest money uh to achieve these results, I believe that's kind of a best of both worlds scenario. And to stay within my two minutes, and there may be questions, I hope there are. Uh I was here for your discussion on the ALPR vendor. Uh we don't sell any data. uh we had to sign an affidavit for the city of Tampa, one of our customers, that we would concur with everything you stated today. We're very willing to do that here as well because we don't believe in that either.

Two minutes.

Great. Thank you.

I just want to hear from both.

And as far as data goes, um tell me what goes on like how do you get the information? Where does that go? And could that ever be hacked, taken out?

Well, good good question. Thank you. As far as could it be hacked, I guess anything. There's no superlude in the world. We've been in business since 1994 and have not been hacked once. So believe we have excellent places. We meet a number of standards through inlets and sieges which are federal agencies that have incredible high data security standards in order to get DHSMV makes us run incredibly tight audits on that. So the only thing we're capturing is the license plate. The rear of the vehicle, the license plate is captured if it's going 11 miles over or greater. during the school day in front of a school. So there are egregious violations. I think everyone would agree with that. Two humans in the United States send that data to either DHSMV securely within Florida or to inlets, which is a a national warehouse of data that I know Pasco County subscribes to for out of state drivers and the seven biggest provinces of Canada. The registered owner information comes back. It is vetted. It is then sent to the Pasco County, assuming you became a customer of ours. It is sent to Pasco County for a deputy or a traffic infraction enforcement officer to have a final up or down. We have no perview in that. Is this a violation we're citing? If they say yes, it is printed, mailed, uh once it's either paid or adjudicated, it's destroyed. Well, you know, I I had one red light ticket camera in my uh history and it was like a quarter of a second. Find it very offensive. Um and and and I could go track the timing down, but by the time you track the timing down, spend the money to go do that, you you've wasted the money you did, it's not going to affect your points. They say if you pay it up quick and you're done. Um, so even with them having their own people to go look at these things, it could be a one-off thing of all of a sudden you're going from 30, from 45 to 15 and all of a sudden, bam, you got a ticket and you could be just off slowing down to the safe area. Uh, I'll say this, I like the other system that doesn't give the tickets that puts a safety out there. It collects data it can go. I'm I'm comfortable moving those forward right away if we put those in place and we still find more problems. If you want to bring it back and go look at the ticket situation because I know these things are hard to get rid of and I don't trust the process, um, so be it. But the the other presentation is much more comfortable to me. Commissioner Starky,

I'm going to echo everything that Commiss Commissioner Jagger Joerger said. I I think it's the ticket that's going to change the behavior and if I would not be for them anywhere else in the county. Um but I am 100% for them in school zones and my understanding is once they start giving the tickets the speeding starts dropping drastically. So um and as far as Mid Pock I I've called [clears throat] I've called the school district on that one because there is no school at Mid Pock.

I didn't mean Mid Pock. I

Well, Mid Pock still has the flashing lights and they don't have a school there anymore.

Yeah. It's it's the one that goes from uh uh

Marlo

Massav South

Marlo

Massav to Main Street. That that one on that road there.

I don't know one on Massachusetts.

It's below Massav.

I think it might be the fire station. I can't think of the road.

Okay.

And I I just would like to call Chase up. you have like one minute, but I would appreciate you just to chime in on this and some of the things we

Let me let me ask a question first just to address something first before bringing Chase if you would come on up.

What do you find the success rate is as far as safety goes after you've installed your systems?

Um, so we have just deployed the first system in Pulk County. Um, and so that is actually going live today uh with the new start of the school year. And so we are working on those case studies with the numbers. Uh the data that we have seen in the labs, the test facilities and the other studies that have been done around the state. Uh our focus is al is primarily around the crosswalk itself and getting vehicles to stop because of the non-compliance at the crosswalk. Um and so the difference in the speeding is yes we are reducing the average speed in that area uh because vehicles are coming to a stop at the crosswalk. Um but the speeding being addressed by the red light or by the speed cameras are uh a different method. Uh we're focused on the actual to and from of the kids from the school uh specifically around the crosswalk itself. Uh so what we're tracking yes the vehic number of vehicles the vehicle average speed uh but then we're also looking at the uh compliance rate for stopping because state law is the stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk and increasing that compliance significantly. We've seen a a very large number uh in our data labs as well from that aspect.

Can we hear from Chase and then take a break for lunch?

Sounds good.

Okay. Good uh good now afternoon. Uh Chase Daniels, Pasco Sheriff's Office. Uh thank thank you, Commissioner. Uh so we and the school district have been in uh numerous meetings regarding this uh proposal. We stand fully uh ready to support and enforce this program. Depending on which direction the board goes, if it's the tickets, we we stand ready to provide the uh ticket enforcement officer, provided it's revenue neutral for for us, which we understand it it would be. Um we we can attest certainly speeding in school zones is a significant problem. Unfortunately, we do not have the capabilities to be in every school district in in this county um twice a day, every every single day. So, something like this would certainly be be helpful if it's the the desire of the board.

Okay. Thank you.

Quick question.

With the six zones that seem to be trouble zones, would it be trouble for you to go look at those six zones in the mornings?

Uh so, we we do that. Uh so what we do is especially around the start of the school year uh we provide uh community engagement deputies or or other deputies that that uh aren't necessarily responding to immediate calls for service and we ask them to put a special focus on those school zones around the start of the year and we work with our school crossing guards to kind of identify u those areas where they're seeing the the primary speedings.

Can you I know we're collecting data looks like from all these intersections. Is that data ongoing collections? If it is, can we get a comparison when the deputies are out there compared to not?

We we would defer to them on that.

All right. So, I think this this is a a conversation worthwhile, but it's I think I need more information. So, we'll cancel for lunch now and we'll talk about all afterward. Okay. Break for lunch. Back at 1:30.