6.17.25 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting

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believe it at all. Where's Where's Where's that table right there? I know. Pull the G. Let's go. Yep. Let's go. Um, does anyone know where our county administrator is? We can do it without him. I don't think he counts on the vote. That's right. We can go. We can go. Let's go. I'll just call him and then I'll go for it. Good afternoon and welcome to the afternoon session of the board of uh nope Terry board of county commissioners meeting. Um we did not please silence your cell phones if you have not done so. We did not finish um this morning and the consultants that are on that deal have some issues. So, we're going to pull that up first real quick. So, um this is going to be whatever it was R 53. R 53. Come on up. Consuel. Thank you. Good afternoon everybody. My name is Consuel Sanchez. Sorry. I'm the tourism deputy director for Pasco County and today I'm going to be presenting the award of the beat for the invitation to negotiate for the Wild Grass Ranch Sports Campus of Pasco County and future expansion. I'm going to start with a little bit of background information for some of of our newest commissioners. So the Wild Grass Ranch Sports Campus is the result of over 20 years of county efforts in order to build a multi-purpose event facility. I included as part of the presentation some of the milestones that the county achieved. But I'm going to start in 2017 when the county approved the agreement with Ratsports, the former operator, and increase the county's tourist development tax from 2% to 4% in order to be able to cover for the bond for this facility. In 2020, we had the grand opening for phase one, which is the indoor facility, 98,000 square feet of indoor space. Unfortunately, the relationship didn't work as expected with the former operator. So, in 2023, we went over mediation. In 2024, we release a new ITN, which is the invitation to negotiate for a new operator of this facility and for potential investors to develop the available land. This is the facility I'm presenting today. So we have 98,000 square feet of indoor space. We have eight basketball courts or 16 volleyball courts is become a national and international venue for a sports event. We recently opened five additional multi-purpose fields. The investment has been mainly from the tourist development tax. So you can see that originally we put $11 million for the bond, $15 million for phase one. Phase two, which is the additional five multi-purpose fields, we got a bond for $10.5 million. And we got additional expenses for $1.3 million uh in order to cover a shortfall from the original construction. The public investment total $37 million. And we also got private investment through a hotel on site. That total $19 million. So the

full project is over $56 million. The invitation to negotiate. So we work for almost one year with purchasing putting all the pieces together also with the county attorney's office trying to find out the best way to present this uh procurement process because we had failed already with the former operator. So we came up with the structure of the invitation to negotiate which allows proponents to basically present proposals. We tell them the basic information and what we would like to achieve but they let us know how to get there. So project A was to seek for proposers for the management, operations and maintenance of our current amenities which basically were phase one and two including the indoor facility, the two lawn fields and the five multi-purpose fields. Project B is to seek for proposer to invest and develop the available land which is phase three. And project C would give the option to any vendors to actually propose A and B in just one proposal. So the county started the process. They released on June 14 last year the documents for the ITN. Um we received four proposals but three of them seemed to be unresponsive. Only a sport facilities companies was found to be responsive. So sport facilities companies was founded in 2003. I've been in this industry for 10 years already attending national and international events and I get to see them everywhere I go. They have great presence over 2500 members across the country. They managed 90 venues all of them esports tourism facilities. They have great experience and they submitted proposals for project A meaning maintenance, operations and management of the um current amenities and project C which is a mix of project A with potential investment. I'm going to be presenting the key terms of this agreement. So, we negotiated a 10-year agreement with the option to autorenew for up to four five additional terms. The initial financial commitment from the county is $500,000 because that's going to be used in order to obsess offset any shortfalls. management fee, and this is where it gets to start really interesting, is going to be $18,000 a month. However, the county doesn't need to pay for that fee. What we're going to achieve with this agreement is that SFC is going to take on the financial responsibility for the venue. Meaning that they are going to be managing an operation operational account where they're going to be responsible for all the revenue as well for the expenses and they're going to pay themselves out of that account. the facility floor resurfacing reimbursement. That is something that we have to do regardless of who has control over the venue because this venue was open in 2020 and we have been very successful hosting national and regional events plus some local programming. So the floor needs to be resurfaced. That's an additional expense of $250,000 that we're building into this agreement. With that we will be able to reimburse SFC for that expense.

We are planning to start operations with SFC taking over the facilities management operations in maintenance maintenance on August 1. That's the way that we are going to try and work it out. However, if the agreement is approved today, we're going to start a transition with parks and recreation and the destination management organization. The staff that is working on site at the wiregrass is going to transition into SFC. Just the main staff as part of the agreement, we included an exhibit that includes the people who will be moved under SFC. This is something really huge for the county. Right now, we don't have any kind of capital reserve funding for this facility. Through negotiations, SFC agreed to allocate 5% of gross revenue, not net, which is huge for us because within the next five years, we're going to be able to build almost $1 million in capital reserves for this facility. Infrastructure investment Sport facilities company is proposing to convert the two lawn fields into artificial torf which is going to provide us the opportunity to bring additional events because right now those two fields are not at tournament level therefore we cannot use them for tournaments room night generation. So we learn from our mistakes. This time we actually have in the contract some language that requires SFC to generate at least 30,000 room nights in Pasco County hotels annually. Annually. Yes, ma'am. Then the feasibility study. This is something really important because the county doesn't have that right now for the development of the additional land. So they're going to have six months in order to run the due diligence and come up with the feasibility studies for the available land that we have at the sports campus. Takeover date, as I mentioned before, is going to be August 1st, 2025. Our investment is a one-time payment of $500,000 which is going to be used for SFC in order to cover potential operational expenses such as payroll, utilities, maintenance, and any other expense that they need to go through during this transition. and the $250,000 that I mentioned before that are needed in order to be able to resurface the floors of the gyms. The funding source is tourist development tax. So, we're not affecting the general fund. the return on investment. You can clearly see that uh SFC is going to invest immediately between two to3 million into the artic artificial to for the two loan fields. But more importantly, we're going to have the capital reserves contribution which is the 5%. Let's think for a moment. Even if we remove the $2 million for the investment, we're going to be able to recover what we're investing today in less than five years because SFC is taking over all the expenses for this facility. The recommended board action today is to approve the agreement with SFC for the

management, operations, and maintenance of the Wildgrass Ranching Sports Campus. Any questions? Commissioner Mar, thank you. U, one of the things we talked about is parking out there. Parking is an issue now, never mind if it gets even busier. Why isn't this part of the proposal and why isn't it included in there as far as dealing with that issue? Yes, sir. It was part of the proposal actually. So again, I'm going to go back to the projects. Project A, project B. Project B open the option for any vendors and I understand that purchasing sent that proposal or debate to over 7800 vendors across the country. We only got one proposal that included parking and SFC proposal. So it is there. However, the county didn't provide any kind of feasibility studies. They're running that study within six months in order to be able to move forward with this investment includes additional parking and also includes five additional multi-purpose fields. Okay. So, how many years ago did we do red sports? We had red sports on contract what, five years or so. Oh, it was three years. Three years. Okay. And then we had to pay them off. How much do we have to pay for that? $3 million. Is that all paid off yet or we still paying that off? We're still paying that. Okay. So, we're going to finish in 27. So, I'm going to remind the board we made the decision and I thought it was rushed. Uh people were worried about not doing things quick enough. When we rushed that decision, we put ourselves in a bad spot. We couldn't guarantee the roommates. We couldn't put ourselves in a a good firm position what we're going to do with it. And because of that, we were locked in the contract and we end up buying them out. And we're still paying that debt. You saw all the money. I didn't see that accounted in for the money we're paying. I don't want to see us jump into something else. Right now, the facility is fantastic. And I want to tell you, our parks team is doing a phenomenal job since they took it over. Room nights are up. Consuel, you did a phenomenal job with it. Thank you. I mean, what you did to bring those people in just like you said you would working with Keith, the team, phenomenal. So, we know the thing's running good. It's not costing us a lot of money to go. I I will tell you the the park is still a big issue, though. when you have any event down there and if we're not going to deal with the biggest issue we have in that park, I don't think we need two artificial fields. Number one, and if you have an artificial surface field that's low and you need artificial turface, if you don't do that properly, which is raising the field up, you're going to get an unusable field there as well and have other issues. So, I mean, if we need to rebuild the field, let's rebuild the field. But if you're going to have five fields of grass and two artificial, you're not going to have any extra tournaments there anyway. uh just because I know I do my due diligence after we met last time. That was a great point, Commissioner. So, my

team actually reach out to several outdoor event organizers, including football, lacrosse, kickball, and soccer. And we actually run a little survey to see if they were be willing to actually come and play and mix um tours. So, they were completely fine with that. One of them out of nine that we received responses said that they would prefer all of them natural grass. But all of them were actually willing and actually very accepting of the fact that we would have two different kind of um turf, the natural and the artificial. Yeah. I mean, as far as my I'm concerned, if anybody's had their kids play in artificial turf, it gets hot in Florida like you can't believe. And I mean, I got people in the audience that are nodding their head right now. I know who's that plays soccer. I've coached my I don't coach my kids. I was with my kids and the temperatures were unbearable. Um I know they had a great complex complex up in Altimont Springs that does very well. It's all artificial turf. They use multipurpose things, but again if you're going to have five of one surface and then two of another. If you the fields aren't built right, let's go build them right. But again, back to the parking, back to the agreement. Um how many rooms this year have you generated? 21,000. 21,000 for the whole previous year. Yes. Fiscal year. How how how far are you now? How how you how are you tracking this year? Oh, I think that we're right now in track to achieve the same number. Uh I don't think it's going to be higher because we always are going to have a slow season which is basically summertime all the way through November. So we already lock a bunch of events before. So, we're targeting the same amount of room nights this year. Um, when it comes to the use of the outdoor fields, we have been a little bit slow because we have a lack of multiple amenities that have been preventing us from bringing additional events. So, we have the concession stand, but it's just a shell. We don't have any equipment, which is also part of the agreement. SFC is gonna actually move forward purchasing all the equipment that we need in order to be able to bring these tournaments in town. So, if I'm going to try to go hire someone to do this whole project and these guys won't invest their money in, I'm not sure they're going to put their money in and not expect to get it back if in fact somebody else comes in because they didn't want the park garage and now we're going to entangle another contract that could cost me another $3 million or more because of the investments they're going to put in. So, Commissioner, we address that. The county is making a huge investment, $500,000 upfront in order to move forward with this agreement. So if you review the ITN, the $2 million or $3 million investment for the artificial torf, it was not part of the original proposal. That's something that they offer in order to show good faith and their long-term commitment to keep this

facility state-of-the-art for tournament. So based on the agreement, there is nothing in the agreement that requires the county to pay back SFC if we terminate the agreement. Meaning that if that is the case and we end up terminating the agreement, which is something that I want to clarify also because we didn't have this in the past with Ratsports, we can terminate the agreement by convenience any time as long as we provide a 12 month written notice also. They can do the same. So that means that we are not in any obligation in order to pay back that investment and this is good because it's an additional motivation for SFC in order to keep the relationship going with Pasco County. I don't think they want to forfeit $2 million. I'm going to say we were pretty well assured too with RAD sports that we wouldn't have to worry about if we're going to end the contract and the contract and that did not turn out to be the case. So I don't trust that statement. But my my thinking is this. if I've got to go do a agreement on and they they know that we do a feasibility agreement. That's part of the reason they don't want to sign with the with with the parking garage because no feasibility has been done. I think what's wisest for the board to do is to go do the feasibility study. Put a pause on this if you want. Do the feasibility study and then let's go negotiate from there. But until that feasibility is done, I think if you go put all that money into it, if they go put all that money into it, our money too, and then this doesn't work, then what do we got? You got another disaster. I just have a comment. So remind us how many other organizations they have throughout the country. 90 venues that they're managing throughout the country, right? Yes ma'am. And sir, to your comment, this is what I'm thinking. I think that if we go back, we will need to start over from a scratch because we don't have the feasibility study. just the procurement process to go over to get the consultant to run the feasibility studies going to take about six months. They have six months right now in order to run those feasibility studies at no cost for the county. Um I have a question but let me ask if you have any questions. I don't have a question without statements but you can go ahead. Um on the parking on the parking issue. Um so are you saying we're going to do a phys feasibility study to look at a parking garage? Yes, ma'am. Actually, that was part of the proposal that SFC submitted includes a parking garage because they understand the need. So I don't really know how far away this is from the parking garages that JD Porter is going to build that we're helping with. David's over there, but I think this is somewhat near. So, not sure. But that parking garage, I mean, we should make it a paying parking garage, right? So, people pay to park and then we That's going to be how they're going to recover the investment. Yes, ma'am. 100%. Um, yeah, I I have faith in this

company. N 90 venues um across the country. I This is in their backyard because they're a local company. I I feel pretty good about this deal personally. I I just can I add to just what you're saying is that also I think easily we'll get to the 30,000 nights due to them marketing their product and this is something that I appreciate commissioners Mariano faith in me because I know that you trust me but unfortunately and even with all the relationships that I have been building over the last 10 years nationally and internationally I don't have the outreach that these guys have just because They can move or rotate all kind of tournaments around because they have that leverage. I don't have it. Yeah. Commissioner Oakley. No, I do. Sure. Okay. Uh, Commissioner Mariana. No, I'm just I'm just glad to finally see this this project coming back into compliance. It's been a long time coming. U, parking is an issue, something that we've explored extensively. what are we 28 23 to $28,000 per per lot right when we go vertical. Um, my understanding is as as the program evolves and get gets back on track and with other stakeholders within the overall footprint of Wiregrass, um, I I I feel we've had some very positive conversations about uh a a parking garage somewhere someway. Uh, Legacy is not not very far away. Um, they're going to be complimentary to each other. So, uh, for the county to to get this off its books, Keith, your your team, Kathy, your team's done a great job in the interim running the facility and and keeping things stabilized. But it'll be good good to have private operator back in operating it and and then again saving what the tourist development tax, 18 grand a month, getting that off your off your bankroll. Uh, I'm sure that'll add some relief to you guys and and then, you know, start growing that fund again. So, I'm supportive of this of this project or this uh this proposal here today and we move on to the next chapter of the sports campus. Rich. Yeah. And I and I'll say I have nothing but good things to say about the company as well. No animosity whatsoever. I think they do a great job etc. The problem I have with the deal back to it again is the biggest issue we have out there is parking. We're not addressing the parking and if the RFP process wasn't done the way it should have been to be done so be it. they in RAD in in uh this company also says that the feasibility study needs to be done. I think I'd be I'd be happy continuing until that feasibility is done and then negotiate that and look at as one shot because if you're going to tell me that someone's going to go spend 1.4 million for two artificial turf fields which don't gel with the rest of it, there's an issue there because I know they're going to want to get their money back. So that means either they're not going to improve the fields or they're going to improve the fields. You know, do you think if anybody thinks they're going to

put up 1.4 4 million to do these fields and not expect to get the money back if they don't get the contract renewed and extended out. I I think I think you're going to have an issue with it. I mean, just like with Rad Sports, I also want to mention, sir, that if you look at the history of these guys, they have really good reputation for long-term partnerships. So, I truly don't think that they would be investing two or three million dollars if that were the case. But more importantly, I go with what the agreement says. One, two, we already went through the experience with Ratports that left us a lot of good knowledge and we actually applied all that knowledge dos and don'ts into this agreement. We didn't enro this agreement whatsoever. Commissioner Wayman knows that that we took our time. We hire external outside consult and we hire the person who leads a sports tourism facilities in the country as our consultant in order to be able with us reviewing not only the ITM terms but also all the terms of the agreement. So it's not something that we're coming up with. We have worked very diligently towards this agreement countless hours. Not to mention that we gathered different departments from the county. We had insight from OM. We had insight from facilities. We had insight from parks and recreation who has done an amazing job operating the facility also from the DMO and our assistant county administrator. So, it's something that we didn't rush whatsoever. We took our time. We learn from our past mistakes and we put everything together counting with professional counsel that make sure to cover the county's back. Well, I'll say this with the council with the purchasing part. If parking is such an issue and it's still going to be an issue and you didn't address it and not you, but if it wasn't done the RFP process, then we haven't done it the proper way or the best way possible. Now, you're gonna have to do another contract and and renegotiate again. I think we should do it all up front. I just have one comment. Yep. So to maybe solve your turf issue, we could just make two travel ball baseball fields because that would bring in a ton of money. Just saying we're lacking in travel ball fields. So the chair to to the parking garage. Look, hindsight being 2020 on this when this facil when the county designed this facility, I think the county, knowing what we know now, I think the facility is too small. We un we we built it too small and the county probably should have looked longer term in building a better parking design. And all this was done obviously before prices went through the roof. To put the onus on any potential operator to solve the parking problem when the county designed the facility initially, the parking and the and the facility space. I don't know if there'd be any biders if it was going to be a full requirement right out of the gate just knowing how expensive parking garages are. And then we're asking a private provider to come

in and solve many problems for us. But then the parking problem, which has a huge financial price tag, a huge price tag on to get it done. You know, it it um I just think there has to be a balance there. And I'm confident that time time and if the if the if the relationship works out uh in the way that we're seemingly hopeful it will then system and and the markets and the success of that building I think would lead to a better opportunity for for for parking. But I think we need the fields before the parking. I think we can figure out parking ride shares drop offs in the meantime. People are kind of accustomed to the parking headache there. I'm not accepting that, but it is the nature of the situation today. Um, but I think we need to move forward and and and and bring a crew in to to keep building the brand and as it's building, keep leaning on them in partnership with the county to figure out the parking problem because it's no secret parking's a challenge. But we need the field trees done first, I think, for the parking and then, you know, work towards parking as as soon as possible. I I today I think if we could go back in and redesign that facility, I think it would be designed probably pretty different, right? So, um I'll leave it at that. Go ahead. Kathy Pearson, assistant county administrator of public services. So, couple of comments from myself. I was one of the leery ones going into this um in the beginning to be honest with you. But as we have dug and studied and learned and gathered all that information, I am very for this elite company to be taking it over. We cannot compare this company to Rad Sports. It's totally different. This is their business. This is their expertise. But I really want to publicly thanks Keith Wy and the team at the Wy Grass complex for the months that they took over this, the years that they took over this, the work and the heart, sweat, and tears that they did to keep this facility alive. And to this lady next to me, you won't find a more tenacious, ferocious lady that knows how to negotiate, knows how to get things done. So I just want to publicly thank um you can swallow and Keith and the committee. We really learned a lot through this process and I am confident we will solve this parking issue. We did do the right RFP. We did A, we did B, we did C. Thank you to Carrie for all of that. We've had no bids on it. So, I mean, that's how it is. That's how it is. But I'm sure we will get to that, Jack. I'm sure we will. Well, you you say you we did it right, but again, we don't have we've got one bidder. How many times you throw a contract? You have only one bidder. So, it's a very tough thing to bid on anyway. And maybe they just look at maybe I can't do maybe I can't do more notes. Look, if they've done a great job at 21,000 units a year and now we're going to go to 30,000 units a year as far as like hotel nights and you don't have the parking to get any more fields out there, it's going to be a mess going on and maybe people walked away from it. But even this

company, and by the way, I heard all the great things about Rad Sports when they were coming in too, how awesome they were. Everybody backed them up from the chamber, porters, the world, everybody loved Rad Sports and look what we ended up with. What I'm what I'm saying is if they this company coming in even says you need to do a feasibility study and you haven't done that, you can tell me you think you did a good job as far as getting the ARP setup, but there's a flaw in they even exposed it. So don't tell me it's a perfect setup because if you get one bidder, then something's wrong and they even say you need a phys feasibility study. How many did we have download? So I understand and Carrie I don't know if you're here but this was sent to over 7800 vendors across the country and again commissioner we splited so we were not making mandatory for any vendors to submit just one bit for the operations or the investment they had the option to submit for project B which was only development and investment for the available land. So, I'll say just one more thing to this. If you had if we had done it with the RFP where it had to be park and had to be addressed and you had the feasibility study that ahead of time like this company suggests we do, maybe you would have got more biders. But because it was incomplete, people looked at it and says maybe I don't want to mess with that. Sir, I have to clarify something. The original draft ITN, we were making it mandatory to include a proposal for the parking garage. However, we got comments back from the county attorney's office saying that that was very restrictive. So, they asked us to make it optional, which even with being optional, SFC submitted that as part of the proposal. Commissioner Oakley, are we are we working on a parking garage for this facility? Now, they're going to start working. They have six months in order to run the feasibility studies which is going to include the parking garage and five additional multi-purpose fields. Okay. And that's the new management company we're asking to go into contract with. Yes. Um yes, sir. They're going to do it. And this is the good thing about the deal. Even if things wouldn't work out to move forward with the parking garage, we have saved the county not only dollars running the feasibility study, but also time because if we start from scratch again, we're going to have to start with the procurement process to try and get a consultant to run those feasibility studies. They're ready already and they have six months to get those studies done. Okay. Um, on the parking, is there a empty land around it that um we can shuttle people there in the meantime? She's my assistant. Actually, I'm her assistant, too. Keith Wy, director of parks, recreation, natural resource. There is an 18 acre parcel that is due north of the existing facility. uh that is what we call the undeveloped parcel of land. So we can accommodate we could get a golf cart and shuttle people and so um I don't want to get too you know go off on a tangent but

um you know the the facility was under construction when we were doing the athletic uh field ads and so now that that is completed there we can use the undeveloped parcels right now as overflow but it is a it's a bit of a walk but in the last year that was unavailable so I think the parking complaints were elevated because of the construction that was occurring on site not to say that we don't need parking I, you know, I definitely know that we do. Um, but yeah, there's there's that 18 acres. Well, that's a good problem. If we need parking, that means we're being successful, right? People want to be there. Yes. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Any additional questions? Does the applicant want to speak or Eric, did you want to speak? Yes. Eric Sullivan, uh, founding partner of Sports Facilities Companies. Uh I just want to share we are really excited about this opportunity. We've been working uh diligently with Consuelo and with Keith and with the team to understand everything that's working, things that have the opportunity to be improved upon. Parking certainly has been one of the challenges. Um it does us no good to not have convenient and adequate parking. So I do believe what Keith shared recently with construction of the outdoor fields that displaced some of what was the overflow parking pre previously in place. Uh we have full intention of solving the parking solution as part of what was phase uh excuse me part C of the ITN. We have proposals from multiple uh parking garage developers, the builders of these things. Uh two out of the three are local here in the Tampa Bay region and it's going to be the number one priority we address uh assuming we get the opportunity to coming out of today. Excellent. Okay. Um this it's not a public hearing kind of item. It's a to the board. I'm going to go back to the motion. the motion. We have multiple um motions today, but the main one is to approve the award of the bid number ITN G524113 to Wild Grass Ranch SFM, which is the name of the company for the management, operations, and maintenance and for the potential of the future expansion of the available land for 700 $75,000. I'm sorry my English, you know. You better 750. Yeah. Um All right. We're going to delegate to the county administrator. Are these independent votes? Motions of votes? No. You can you can combine these into one one. This one, two, and three would be the staff's recommended motion for the board to thank. All right. I'll move to approve. Second. Um, one, two, and three together. Okay. All in favor? I. All opposed? N. Okay. So, that motion passed. Thank you. All right. Congratulations. Whoops. Okay. Now, we will move on to our public hearing. And we have quite a few continuences here. So P-54. Okay, sorry about that. P-54 was

advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on April 30th, 2025. McDonald's planning development economic growth department. Uh item P54 is PD250013. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan um known as the Arola town home project. This is recommended to be a continuence to the August 19, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting in Newport Richie at 1:30 p.m. Move to continue time. Second. All in favor? I see. Is this roll call Jeff? Uh, continuences. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Okay. P55. All right. P55 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times February 5th, 2025. Item P-55 is PDE250054. This is an ordinance amending the Paso County Comprehensive Plan uh for a project known as the Little Road PD located at Little Road and Jasmine Boulevard. Uh this item is being recommended for a continuence to the August 19, 2025 Port County Commissioners meeting in Newport Rich at 1:30 p.m. Move to continue time certain. Second. All in favor? I I All right. P56. P-56 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March 5th, 2025. Item P-56 is actually the companion to item P60 on the agenda. This item is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners uh amending the Pasco County Land Development Code uh amending section 1001 docks and seaw walls. Uh however, this item is the adoption hearing that we are requesting continuence to the August 19, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting. So, so because of the continuences of the this item, the two hearings ended up on the same agenda. So, 56 you can't take action on. It needs to be continued because the first hearing is shown as number 60 on the but you think that'll be confusing to people that they see that it's being continued and maybe wanted to speak to this. that shows they're here number 60 is the is the item that is the action item on your agenda. So move to continue time certain on P56. Second. Second. All in favor? I I So we have individuals signed up for P-56. We can ask them if they want to speak when we get to P60. It's advertised as continuance. We continue. They can wait and talk about the next item hang on a second. P60 is your first reading of that ordinance. We have people signed up to speak to P-56. Then I would suggest that they speak to P60 then. Yeah. And since it was advertised as a continuous That's right. Okay. P57. Thank you. Uh P57 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times June 4th, 2025. Item P-57 is PD250124. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County ordinance number 21-18 expanding the boundaries of the Conerton East Community Development District pursuant to chapter 190 Florida statutes providing for miscellaneous provisions providing for an effective date. This comes to you with the recommendation to adopt the ordinance by roll call vote.

Um Terry, can you uh put the map up please? Because I want to discuss what I was texting there. And um yeah, I have a couple questions on Conor. Well, Madam Chair, I don't know if it's has it in my district, but that Conor, I believe, would be in district two. That's correct. District two. Okay. So, we'll need to address that as well. Maybe maybe in the in the motion. Um, so well, what I asked you about was where where is the orange belt trail shown on this map? The It it I hope that comes after the call your Parkway extension through this project. Right, Mike? This is a map of the CDD boundaries. I know, but we're expanding it right over here along Aaron Cutoff. Is is that hatched area the expansion? Yes. Isn't that a long Aaron Cutoff? That's on the That would be on the east side of Aaron Cutoff. Okay. So where is the orange belt trail along Aaron? The orange belt trail is coming up Aaron Cutoff. So what I'm asking is where is it on this map. So I know that we've protected that that very important piece of land. I don't know if it's on the east side or the west side. It is I mean I I don't know. I was going to Brandford. Do you have Panos running from engineering services? I know they're doing a feasibility study for it. members of the board contest assistant county engineer as you approved earlier uh there is a route study going it's going to be for collier parkway extension that uh stud is going to consider the location what's that got to do with this one caller parkway extension is going to follow alignment either over the air cutoff or parallel to cutoff and it's going to be a multi-lane uh roadway which is going to have also the available right of way for the orange belt trail. So, at this time, we don't know which side is going to go, but it's going to be on most likely on the extension of Kier Parkway. Well, how does that work when we're going through the park there? The trail goes through Cypress Creek. I just I don't know that area real well. So, I mean, the route goes through from Aaron Cutoff through the park and up to Central Pasco Employment, right? That's one of the alignments. Yes. You're talking about the Wellfield the Yes. Yes. That's one of the alignments right now. I've never seen the other alignment. So I Right now there is a PD&E study going on for the Orange Belt Trail which they're going to come the consultant and the study team is going to come in front of you to present the alignments and the alternatives for your approval of the recommended alignment. That's not happened yet. So that's probably is going to be happening within the next four to five months. So the the rout study which we will be doing will adopt whatever recommendation is from the PDN study. Um, can you show me where Call Your Park is on that? Because I Yeah, I think Madam Chair, if if you guys show the chair where the the Carer Parkway extension, the rideway is on the

walls. Section 101.1 intent and purpose. Section 101.4 visibility. Section 101.5 maximum projection and location of docks and seaw walls creating section 101.6 boat lift canopies appendix A definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency providing for applicability repealer providing for severability inclusion into land development code in an effective date. Revised Xparty documents were submitted to the clerk's office as well as a late exarty communication that was received was also sent to the clerk's office. Um Mandela Hill, principal planner with planning services will be presenting this item. Good afternoon, commissioners. Amanda, Planning, Development, and Economic Growth. Planning, Development, and Economic Growth was instructed to bring forward this item for consideration. The purpose of this presentation is to provide details on the intent, history, and proposed changes to section 1001 of the land development code. The intent of the ordinance update is to read text changes to the Pasco County Land Development Code, which were invalidated by the circuit court for Pasco County Civil Division in 2023. It is also to provide standards on boat can be. I'm going to provide a brief history of the ordinance. So back in 2012, section 1001 docks and seaw walls was created that was based off of the adoption of the restated land development code and that moved that previous dock ordinance into that land development code. In 2017, there was a board workshop to discuss among other items whether or not to continue to prohibit roofs over docks. The direction provided by the board at that time was to move forward with an ordinance allowing roofs and other similar coverings over docks on privatelyowned lakes. Fast forward to 2019, ordinance 19-12 was adopted by the board allowing roofs and other similar coverings over docks on privately owned lakes. In 2021, there was a board discussion that resulted in the decision to abandon the previous direction that the board wished to proceed with an amendment to the land development code to allow covers over docks. And then 2023, that previous invalidation that I mentioned um of ordinance 19-12 by the circuit court, and that was through a motion for partial summary judgement, and covers are currently prohibited everywhere, including on privately owned lakes. So now I'm going to walk you through the proposed changes and additions to the section of the code. So first section 1001.1 intent and purpose. An additional purpose is added to provide standards for reasonable protection of vessels from the elements. Section 101.3 permit required. This section was included after the 320 LPA for internal consistency. An additional description is added to the type of property for which owner authorization is required prior to obtaining a permit to construct or

substantially improve a structure regulated by the section. Section 101.4 visibility. Additional clarification on the prohibitions of buildings or structures on waterfront property is provided. Section 101.5 maximum projection and location of docks and seaw walls. The name of section 101.5 is changed from navigability and protection of water courses to maximum projection and location of docks and seaw walls. The previous prohibition of obstructions in the section is removed. Additional guidance on the maximum projection is added and the retroactive applicability of the subsection is updated to provide revised guidance for proposed additions to this section of the code. uh section 101.6 boat lift canopies is being proposed to be added and this provides standards for the canopy dimensions and placement. There are also proposed changes and additions to appendix A definitions of the LDC. Specifically, there is a proposed update to the definition for mean high water line and two new definitions are being proposed to be added. boatlift canopy and ordinary high water line. This is the first public hearing of the proposed land development code amendment. Staff research supports that the proposed amendment is consistent with the comprehensive plan and staff recommends that the board of county commissioners wave the requirements of the evening hearing pursue into section 125.665B1 of Florida statutes. I'm here for any questions that you may have. Yes. Yes. Why do you want to have a hearing after 5 o'lock? Oh, no. That's why you wave. Okay. Um, so this is a public hearing and we can we have multiple people signed up. Does anyone here want to I'll listen to the public at this point. Okay. Let's hear the public and then we'll talk among us. All right. So, um, first we had Jay Pasqua was signed up for P-56. Do you want to speak to this item? Okay. Please come to the podium. State your name and address for the record and then you have three minutes. J Pasqua 12801 Second Island Hudson. I'd like to first thank uh, Chairwoman Starky and all the commissioners for allowing me to speak here today. I'd like to also first thank Jack Mariano for everything that he's done for our communities. I live in Leisure Beach and I have relatives who live in Signal Cove. There have been many, many boat covers that have protecting our vessels over many years. There is nothing that I've seen in any record that would indicate that a cover has made damage or has done anything to any homes in our areas. As you very well may know, the way prices increase, whether it's on cars or anything else, I've personally spent $125,000 on a boat. And I can truly te tell you that it is very important for us, just as you would

protect your car or anything else, that we protect our vessels. Reason being is there's a lot of reasons. Number one, the resale value, which creates more tax dollars. And not only that, voting is part of our community in our area. I remember when we passed the amendment that allowed it over the lakes and was a little disappointed that we weren't able to get what we needed. We're not asking for boat houses. We're not asking for cuts in our seaw walls, but we're asking for a way to protect our vessels in our community. There are many lifts that are there now. There are many covers that are there now. There are objects that are made out of wood that have been there for hundreds of years, if not since I can remember from back in the 70s. So, I do ask that you consider taking the measure into some serious consideration. Number one, don't limit colors. I'm hearing that you're only allowing three colors. Red, I I don't I don't know what they are. I have a print out, but I think other colors should be put into place. I'm all for regulation for safety. There's no doubt about it. But if you think of the fact that if you own a $150,000 Bucati or if you own another car, you're either going to put it in a garage or you're going to cover it. So when hardworking people are out there, and not all of us are millionaires, and we buy a boat, we're looking to just protect our investment. My grandchildren are enjoying the time. A lot of neighbors come over to our homes. We have elderly people that come. And not that it has anything to do with it, but if you work hard and you go to retire and you buy a boat and it's something that's all you do, I'm just asking that you take into consideration that you allow us to cover those boats and cover those vessels to protect it. Now, we understand that there's a lot that's been going on with controversy of companies and so forth. And I'm not here to complain, but I'm here to let you know that I now have a boat there that has a $2,000 cover on it that's black and it hangs over the side of the boat and it looks like a big blob. And the reason for that is is because I can't have a canopy over my boat. So, I would ask you to please take into consideration, Madam Chairman and Chairwoman, and all you the board of county commissioners to take that into consideration. And I thank you for your time. Can I can I ask you a question? Yes, ma'am. Um, how much uh seaw wall do you have on your canal here? I'm looking at your picture. The seaw walls in our area range in widths. My personal seaw wall is 60 feet wide. That So, are you on the corner of that culde-sac? I I'm actually in the middle of the street. If you're looking for my address, it's 12801. I'm directly in the middle. 12801. Yes, ma'am. Okay. I did the wrong Yes, ma'am. 801. So, a lot of the properties do vary depending on if you go down to the culde-sacs, they're 100 ft long. They're they are bigger. Some are smaller and the ones in the corners are very difficult to navigate. And I do understand that there has to

be, like I said, there has to be rules and regulations. I do understand that. But putting a cover over my boat would save a lot of aggravation in rotting interior and and and the fiberglass cracks and it fades out. And the other point that I made before was is that when you sell it, you get more money for it. If you get more money for it, you get more tax dollars out of it. So, being that we're on the water, I would just ask that you take that into consideration. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. All right. The next individual signed up is Nicholas Mudri. And then behind Mr. Mudrey, it'll be Wendy Juul. Good afternoon, commissioners. My name is Nicholas Mudrey. I live at 5415 Jill Beth Drive, Newport Richie, Florida. I live on a canal. Uh I like to caveat off the previous speaker. Uh Pasco County is one of the few places in Florida that doesn't allow boat covers. If you look at the Florida D and if you commissioners I brought plenty move to receive file second if you like all favor Shannon Shannon will come get it. This gives you an idea of a cover over a boat a boat. U it's an investment. Uh just like if you have an expensive car we'd like to go and have some cover over the elements. If you go to other counties, especially up and down the from Santa Rosa County to Monroe County, Pesco County is the only county that I know of that has a prohibition over the covers of our boat lifts. And I just question how many people who have the wherewithal to live on the water and to pay the higher taxes avoid the county because of this prohibition. I ask that you approve item P60 for the benefit of the residents. Any questions? Don't feel engaged. Thank you. Okay, so Wendy Juul and then behind her, Craig Rogers will be next. Hello, my name is Wendy Juel. I live at 6906 Harbor Drive in Hudson, 34667. And I'll be brief because it's actually in my view, it's actually very simple. Uh the boat canopies provide vital protection from environmental damage to our investments. With rising prices on everything, we should be allowed to do what we can to provide that protection. Just as the other two gentlemen stated, if you had a nice car, you're going to put it in a garage or you're going to cover it or you're going to do something. Um, the covers also provide practical benefits, um, such as shade in extreme heat and sun, which is especially valuable for individuals with health concerns and the elderly. A lot of time can be spent prepping for a day on the water and cleaning the boat when you get back. Um, and it isn't pleasant spending that time in the blazing sun and I think it causes safety concerns. Um they're non-permanent structures. They can be removed during hazardous weather. Um and I for one I do that and that ensures flexibility and safety. Uh we we're not where I am at we don't have

an HOA. Um and that's one reason why many in my area um settled there. um these these canopies are attractive unlike some of the properties surrounding there. So nor are real threats addressed in our canals and surrounding waters. And I know it really doesn't have anything to do with it, but when you compare what we're talking about today with derelict and abandoned boats, crumbling seaw walls, and boats that don't follow the navigational laws, um I would prefer that those issues be addressed than what we're talking about here today. The visibility issue, I can't I don't see it. I can tell you that my home faces south. Um, the home next to me on the west side, uh, has a boat with no canopy and I can't see any further down the canal than than if there was if there were a canopy. Uh, the home on my east um has a canopy and it doesn't doesn't really affect my my view at all. So, um that's it. I I ask that you approve um these for the communities here in I have a question for you because I see you have a a a canopy on your dock on your I didn't know that they weren't even allowed. Yeah. Um did you take it off during all the hurricanes? Absolutely did. Madam Chair, we generally don't engage in public comment. We take the three minutes and we go in an ordinance. You do. We do. Yeah. It's public comment in the morning and I I see all the bird droppings on the top of yours and your neighbors. So, how do you clean that off? Two ways. I have a I have a power washer. I get a ladder out there and I'll wash it off. Um and if you looked at it today with the rains that we've had, it's all gone. And by the way, that they go up on my roof of my home, too. So, that's not a pleasant look from the back. You have a one story or a two story? I can't I have a twotory. Yeah. So, so you see the roof of you, so you're seeing all the canopy and the bird droppings from your second floor. Yes, I can. Yes, I can. Um, how hard is it? How hard was it? Are you able to take that off yourself, that canopy, or do you have to hire someone to take No, no, no. I I get a little ladder and I get my power washer and I wash No. How do you take it off? Oh, how do you take it off? Oh, I hire someone to take the it off. We have taken up We have Are you looking at it? You know, I have two, right? Yes. One one is far much further in and it covers an outdoor kitchen. The one that covers the boat, we can't take off ourselves. It's just a little too dangerous. So, we hire somebody a couple days ahead to come and take it off and then they come back and and put it on after the storm. The one over the kitchen we have taken off ourselves because it's And um at what wind level do you decide to take that off? We watch for the storms when anything comes up. usually 3 days prior. So, how many times have you taken that off? Three. And how how long have you had that? Four. Four years. And you've taken it off

three times? Actually, twice. We've taken off the kitchen one once and we've taken off the boat cover twice. And do you mind saying how much it cost to have it taken off and put back on? 350 to take it off. $350. Yeah. I mean, it's it's the right thing to do. It's, you know, I've never seen I believe the other gentleman stated as well, never seen it them come off and do damage. Here's the problem. It's not so much. If you had to buy a new one, it's going to cost you a couple thousand, right? You can leave it on with as many bunggees. The bunggees are, I think, 12 to 16, something like that, inches all the way around. And that thing isn't going anywhere, but it will rip off some. It might put a rip in it. It might We don't dare leave our boat on it because it does have a cage that goes over. Um, and we have a T-top on our boat. So, if the boat were to hit the T-top, it could damage the boat. Yeah. So, we take ours off, we take our boat off. Um, those that have biminies probably don't have the same same issues that we do. Um, but we take them off mainly because you should. It's the right thing to do. If you didn't, it's not going to hurt anybody. It's probably it's not going to damage anything. You're just going to have to buy a new cover. Um, the house to your west, is that a permanent roof on the dock? What is that? That was grandfathered in before permanent permanent structures weren't allowed as far as I know. I don't know about that one. Someone needs to go check that one out. Oh, don't. Tony will kill me. I'm sorry. But that's You're not allowed to build a permanent roof on No, that was done back in We can tell by Google Earth. So, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much. It looks like you have a beautiful house. Thank you. Uh Craig Rogers is next signed up. How y'all doing today? Um just to clarify, Rogers, can you just give your name and address for the record quick? I'm sorry. Yeah, it's Craig Rogers, 13738 San Juan Avenue in Hudson Beach. Okay. Thank you. Um, just to clarify, we're discussing new boat covers to be done and existing boat covers also. I'll ask county attorney that existing boat covers have not been legal under current ordinance. Okay. I guess my big question is I've had mine for and I'm just going to guess about seven years. Um, did these companies have occupational license or contracting licenses in Pasco County? I am unaware. You're not aware or you don't know. You don't know or they're not legal. They're not legal. So, yes, they don't have a permit. That's the unpermanented structure that you have there. Okay. So, they were working without any kind of license in Pasco County. Okay. Well, we don't I don't know what kind of license. They may have a they may have a a a business tax receipt from the from the tax collector's office. That's not that's not lenture. Okay. I They may have a

489 license for some other reason, but we don't but they're not pulling building permits for these structures. Okay. But they Yeah. No, should be. I mean, there should be should be all unpermaned, right? We'll have to deal with that one. Okay. All right. No problem. Um, well, when code enforcement comes around, and they come around in our neighborhood quite often, I know they have to see these structures going up. You coming in your neighborhood by boat? Absolutely. 110%. I live on the water. I've not I've never seen one. Okay. Um, you can definitely see them from the street. I can see my neighbors from the other canal from in my front driveway. What I'm saying is I guess if these weren't allowed for years and we have got these and we're you know supposed to be getting them, why didn't someone tell us prior to this? Why said you were who said you were supposed to be getting them? No, when we got these when I got mine seven years ago. How come someone didn't say you can't have these? That's a good question. You should have asked the guy who was installing it if it was legal or not. Okay. All right. So, it's totally on the actual residents. The county has taken no respon. So, the county is saying they've never seen these boat lift covers. They just appeared one day. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just saying that, you know, you're asking me um for us. So, I guess what I'm asking you is you were aware of these boat covers being in installed, correct? I I had no knowledge you had one installed in the Did you have any knowledge that anyone in Pasco County had a boat cover installed? This is this is a a a hearing on this ordinance. Okay. Grilling the county commission doesn't get you anywhere. Okay. I don't mean to be drilling the county commission. Voted. Madam Chair. So we generally do and I've never seen it. You can say we do with different nuances. But when we have citizens coming up to speak, they get three minutes to talk. They go through it. They make their comments and then we talk about what they said later on. That's how we've been doing it. This this back and forth is up and brand new. This this Yeah. This integrity. just go um go ahead finish your question. I'm sorry. I I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything like that. It's just that, you know, all of a sudden this came up. We've had him for years. I want I want to answer any more question. You know, we've we haven't had an issue with him or anything. I just, you know, I just don't understand how this just creeped up on us all of a sudden is the way it kind of seems to me. So, so we are moving forward to get these permitted and everything. Does this mean that everyone that has one has to take them down and start over from scratch? Why is this time been reset? Okay. I feel like So, are we saying we're going to take these down and then start

over from scratch? You This is your time to speak. We're not answering. This is not a This is not a session for you to get your questions answered. Okay. All right, I understand. Thank you. Appreciate your Sorry. Okay, so that is the last person signed up in the audience. Although I believe a Mr. Brent Lee is online. Mr. Lee and Barb Barber is here to speak as well. You want to wait for him? Okay. Mr. Mr. Lee, are you there? I'm here. Okay. So, give your name and address for the record and then you have your three minutes. Okay. My name is Brent Lee. My wife and I own 7326 Hatterith Drive in Hudson. And uh thanks for uh giving us the opportunity to address these issues. Uh in keeping with what's just been decided that it's not a question and answer session, I'll just go ahead and say what I'm saying. the uh the way I see this and many other people uh this really only concerns the boating community and those that are property owners on the water. Uh so I I'm I'm wondering why it's got to be a concern for every um there's the three items I want to discuss is there I understand that there are two lifts per property allowed if you have sufficient seaw wall to to hold them. Um I believe that you're limiting it to one canopy. So I feel like there should be the same number of canopies permitted that are uh possible with the lifts. Um the canopies must be 3 ft inside of setbacks. Uh that uh is going to pose a problem to try to cover the entire boat. Uh specifically the bow is what I'm thinking of. And the third item is the three colors allowed, blue, green, and beige, which is what I understand. Um, I understand the aesthetic appeal of earth colors. However, I'm thinking that dark colors attract heat, which trying to to eliminate is direct sun and heat on our investments. uh white, silver, light gray. These are colors that are known to reflect the heat of the sun and affect the purpose of having a boat canopy. Uh so I and I I'm just wondering, you know, why the the color uh you know, I can't see anyone who can afford to live on the water and afford to have a boat and a boat lift and a cover. I'm not sure that they're going to have uhricolored purple uh tops. I'm thinking they're going to kind of maintain the u value of their property by use choosing a color that work. But I think white, silver, light gray should be three additional colors at least that should be handy. Um the uh since only the boating community is really concerned with this and we are the ones that that want to see uh our community uh aesthetics maintained. Uh I'm not sure uh how I would word this with you. I don't know if if uh I would like to see a motion made for a referendum on these canopy um ordinances restricted to only people who actually have property on the water, the canals or what have you. Um so I'm not um you know other than that uh I don't see you know I mean I think they should be

permitted. I think should be controlled uh for everyone's benefit, most particularly those that are actually on the water. How much time do I have left? Thank you. Thank you. The red light. I don't know why it wasn't cut off the red. Yeah, you're done. Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you. All right. And then we had one other individual, but did Mr. Pratt show up or is he still he's not online? Okay. So, we do not have anyone else signed up. If you want to take Barbara comments from the public. Yeah, we'll take comments from the public. Good afternoon, commissioners. Barbara Willilhight, 5020 Oyster Cove. That is my home. It's been my home for several years. My home was built in 1984. I have not owned it since 1984. Um, so obviously I'm one of these affected people because I live on the water. I did want to say in the staff's presentation that there was something kind of missing what I want to point out to you which is ordinance um 1912 was rejected by the court over a procedural matter not a substantive matter. So when I talked to David Goldstein just to clear up do you need do you have to do this because of the litigation? Do you have to change what you did in 2019 or what the board did in 2019 because of litigation the answer was no. you want to readopt 2019, you could read what you did in 2019 or what the board did in 2019. Is that the one that allowed um covers on lakes? That's correct. Yeah. So, I just want to make sure that that's that you're not driven by you have to do something or you have to make a change. The the third, excuse me, the second speaker recognized and acknowledged that this has been a prohibition. These have always been pro prohibited in in uh this county. And I think that's a good thing as opposed to being a negative thing. This is about views and and I stand here not really to say I. Your other speakers all said I. It was about I. I spent 25 $125,000 on my boat. I wasn't able to achieve what I needed in 2019. I work hard to buy a boat. My house has been there since 1984. Everybody's had boats in our community. We have 1,800 homes. Everybody's had boats. It's nothing new to work hard to buy a boat. You cover your boat. You buy a boat cover. You cover it. You hire a company to wash your boat weekly and cover it for you if you can't. Nothing is changed. Please don't change. the quite a few of your speakers and I I read all the commentary that you received by email as well um already have these boat canopies. So, they're coming here because they've already violated your ordinance and they're coming here asking you to change it. But, but what I'm asking you is to not change and not behalf of I it's on behalf of our our community, our county has never allowed these covers. They change views. Now, your speaker can say And your speaker number four, I don't

want to call out people. Your speaker number three, number three says, "I don't see the visibility issue because I don't have one. I can't see. I don't have a view anyhow." Well, there's a whole bunch of people that do have views like myself. And it'll change the view all the way down my canal. The way I way my canal sits is it's in it sits east west. So, it is a sunset view canal. So, all the way down that canal, there's boats after boats after boats after boats. And if you change the ordinance for the eyes, people that want it for their own personal benefit, you're changing that view all the way down that canal for something that's been that way from my home since 1984. You're changing a view. I'm asking you, as in 2019, the board weighed this out and said, "We don't need to do that. People can cover their boats. We recognize that lakes were different. The viewsheds for lakes were different. larger lots, the setbacks are very different from then the canals and you and that distinction was made and that was not overturned that distinction. Your county attorney said it was appropriate distinction. So I want to honor your time. Sorry. So I s I see my time up but thank you for giving me the time to speak on my personal behalf. Thank you. Thank you Barbara. Um so I I want to speak to this too. Um, I I am a boat owner and I I live on the water and um we've lived there, we've had that house I think about 10 years. Uh, and I've grown up around boats and I'd never had a boat cover over a boat. My boat was made to be out. Boats are made to be outside. I I have a wonderful view. I'm on the open canal. I would just it would really affect the value of my my viewshed if my views of the island and the lighthouse and Eagle Point Park and all that was taken away because of boat covers to my right and to my left. It would seriously affect my view and and my neighbors that that view goes away. Um, it's when my when my the boat next to me when he even when he puts the covers on just his windows around his boat, it it takes away um part of Bailey's bluff. So I what would happen on the boat cover would be huge. Um I it doesn't affect people on large lots and it maybe it doesn't affect people who don't care about their views down their canals. Maybe they're not scenic, but I know our community, it's a beautiful community and we love our water views. There's a reason why the side fences for for 15t back can only be 4t high and they have to be see-through because everyone's view has those long views have great value and the county ordinances say you cannot block it. And so the the fences are four feet high and they cannot be solid. Um and I I heard that gentleman say that the other counties don't have uh we're the only county that has this. That is not true. My family lives on the water in Miami. No boat covers allowed. Broward, there's no boat covers. It's all over the place.

There's no boat covers. And I want to remind you what happened in Charlotte County during Hurricane Ian. That um boat cover became a um the the metal of it became a missile and it went into a neighbor's boat went through the hull and sank it. And you know what? uh the person who had that boat cover didn't have to pay for the guy who lost his boat because they considered that an act of God. Just like in in Gulf Harbors during a uh two years ago when we had wasn't even a hurricane, just these winds come through, took off someone's um back porch, the roof over their back porch, went on a one of my neighbors house, did all kinds of damage to his roof. They had to pay for it themselves. the the other guy was not responsible uh to have to pay for to fix all actually that that hurt a bunch of people's houses. So, I don't see any reason to change what we've had since the beginning of time. I'm I am all for boat covers on lakes. I don't think it takes their view away. Um but um I I don't see any reason why we should be be doing this to our communities. Madam Chairman, before you get into general discussion and can I get you to call for any other public comment and then close public comment? Is there any other public comment? Sorry, I didn't see anyone else want to come up. Okay, here. Do you have anyone else online? There's no one else signed up. I live next to Wendy to spoke on Just give your name and address. I'm sorry. Florence Carter, 6912 Harbor Drive. Okay. And you can pull the microphone down to you so you don't have to stand on your tippy toes. All right. Just go that low. At the end of it bends. Yeah. Can you hear me? There you go. Okay. You may proceed. She has a boat cover. I have a boat cover. And her cover doesn't block anything. It's not like it's like this. It's like more straight across. So there's there's no view that's blocking her boat itself blocks way more than the boat cover. That's all I wanted to say and I just hope you guys make the right decision when the time comes. Jack, as you're done, I'm going to make a motion. Thank you. We had somebody in the back row raising their hand. If you want to speak, is there anyone else who wants to speak to this one? Then come to the podium. Yeah. Come on up. Yeah. Line up. If there's anybody else after this gentleman, I had uh you know, I had people from G Harbors coming, but I think they were confused by this continuence because there Gul Harbor's they don't want this. So, excuse me. Hi, my name is Daryl Whitlock. I live You can pull it up. There you go. We accommodate tall people. Oh, we don't. My name is Daryl Whitlock. Uh, actually I live in Sun Branch Civic Association. Actually, the president. And what's your address? Uh, I live on Veronica 13515. Veronica 135. And actually, I was in front of you the board probably I'd say about was it two,

three years ago, I think it was, Jack. And we we talked about this issue and it was uh really hot back then and it still is. It seems like it actually died down since that happened. I've my neighborhood I've probably talked to hundreds of people, hundreds of people in Hudson Beach and I found a couple people that say no, but the couple people say no, they don't want them, there's like 15 to 20 to that one that want them. And I think really we should have the right to protect our boat and our our investments. Uh my boat cover, I had it on through the last two hurricanes and it did not tear. Jack came to my house and seen it. if they're strapped down right. I've went through I've taken mine off before during the hurricanes, folded them up, put them back on, and I had people I seen that they had left theirs on and there was no issues with them. Didn't stretch out. Later on, they had come in, they put new bungees back on them. If they're maintained right, our storms that we get over here in Hudson don't really exceed over 100 mph. Inland, I lived in Orlando for 32 years. I've seen Charlie go through over 120 mph. take roofs off. I've never seen a storm over here like that. When Milton came in, we didn't get hardly nothing by me. Inland, it destroyed it. It tore down trees, blocked roadways. Inland, they got more wind, more hurricane hurricane damage. Tornadoes drop. We do not have the tornadoes that drop on the on the coastal areas. We should have the right to protect what we've got there. There's people, my neighbor just spent $300,000 on a boat. That's more than some people are paying for houses right now. I mean, it's we we could have a car out front. We could put a a carport over it, no problem, and protect it out there in front. What is the difference in the back? They're saying that it's blocking views. My my canopy is probably I would say probably about 10 foot off the ground. So, you can look through it to see it. Now, I got 70 foot of property. Technically, I got about a 60ft boat out there. You know, don't don't you think that 60 ft bolt will block your view more than my canopy would? That's what it comes down to. We've got investments that all we want to do is protect what we've got. And it is a voting community. I'm sorry. It's what it is. But I guess that's about it. I think my time is about 32 seconds. But I do want to thank the commissioners for what you're doing. You are doing uh very good, very well for us in general, and I want to thank you for that. Thank you very much for your time on this. Thanks. Okay. Is there anyone else uh that wants to speak in public comment? Nope. No. Sorry. Okay. All right. We've closed public comment. Madam Chair. Yeah. So this issue here when this was going through I I cautioned as far as like trying to separate the lakes to the canals. Um, I

know my area had voiced their concerns from from years before how they wanted to protect their boats. Um, the gentleman who just spoke, Daryl Whitlock, right beside him was a house that got destroyed. Walls came down, windows are out, the whole house destroyed, his boat covers right in place. Few others across the way, all in place. So, if built properly, they they can with storm the storm, withstand the storms. I I firmly believe the boats, as as if you've heard in testimony, that they block the view more than the cover does anyway. And that's why we're doing the silver cover. We're not talking talking big canopies like was down in Gulf Harbors. Uh and I think Gulf Harbors has a deed restriction in place that would keep you from being able to do it. Well, that's not what I've heard, but anyway. Um as far as this, I'm going to move that we move this thing forward. Uh I'm okay if we add the colors of white, silver, and light gray as well. We're not voting on you today just to move it forward. But I mean I want to make that mention so we can look at it next week. So yeah, so if we can get consensus on changing the color that's really all or you can make a motion to amend the ordinance to change to add those colors if you wish. But so is there a second? second. We're moving it forward. We're not moving on. This is just This is just changing the colors in the in the or I thought we're adding We're adding adding those three colors. Adding I'll second that. We're pushing. Okay. Um All right. All in favor? I Okay. Okay. That's it. There's still another motion that needs to be made. Um in terms of recommending that the board wave the requirements for the evening hearing. So moved. This is recommending waving. The motion would be that the board of county commissioners wave the requirements for section 125.665B1 Florida statutes that at least one public hearing be held after 5:00 p.m. on a weekday and in and instead provide both required public hearings be held at 1:30 or as soon thereafter as same may be heard. So I'll take a second. Second. All in favor? I thank you. Okay. And your next public hearing on this matter will be August. August 19th is what I have. August 19th. August 19th. Thank you. Hit them long, hit them straight, all that kind of stuff. All right. P61. P61. P61 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times, May 28th, 2025. Good afternoon, commissioners. Paula Braaldo, support services. This is an assessment resolution of the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, authorizing and adopting an amendment an amended non-adalorum special assessment within the county limits for the purpose of benefiting assessed properties through enhanced Medicaid payments for local services. Finding and deter and determining that certain real properties

specially benefited by the assessment. Collecting the assessment against the real property. Establishing a public hearing to consider imposition of the proposed assessment and the method of collection. authorizing and directing the publication of notices in connection therewith, providing for certain other authorizations and delegations of authority as necessary, and providing an effective date. Okay. So, we have individuals signed up. We do have representatives here also from our local hospital systems, right? Does anyone want any further presentation than that? No, I'm ready to move the item forward for time. All right, then I will call the public comment. So, the first individual signed up is Rachel Rexford and then behind Miss Rexford will be Jonathan Fischer. This is really if you're against this. No, no, this is this is a public hearing on this. I mean, you can speak if you want to. Rachel with our uh with Atlanta Healthcare Ventures. She's in support of this and so are the local representatives as You are welcome to address us if you'd like, but I don't think you're going to have a problem. So then Jonathan Fischer is with Advent Health, so is also Yeah, they're they're here to speak in favor of this item. Okay. And I see some others here, too. All right. Those are the only two I had signed up, though. Okay. Well, um, and there's no one else here wishes to speak against this or for this. Anyone online? No, ma'am. Okay. I would take a motion approval. Second. All in favor? I. All right. You don't have to sit through anymore. Okay. So, P62 was advertised on Tampa Bay Times May 21 and May 28, 2025. Okay. This is continuence. Good afternoon, Joanne Ravita, Real Property Division. Madam Chairman. Yes. No. Oh. I want to do that too, but I I need to go back to the last I need to go back to the last item. Okay. Um Well, everyone just left. So, what I don't think. It's just for the record. So, go ahead. Okay. So, I just wanted to um say I have a conflict. So, I could not vote on that. Oh, because I'm at the board of North Bay and I did not vote on that for P61. For P61. Yes. Well, I'm on the board technically of All Children's Hospital. Is that on there? Well, North Bay was present. So, well, the question is, did does your print does the board you're on the actual hospital board in both cases? Um, yeah, but technically I haven't had my orientation yet. So technically I'm not sure how that works technically, but I am on the board of all children's, not the board of trustees. I'm on the board, governing board. The foundation boards don't. No. Yeah, I'm not on the foundation board. I'm on the hospital board. So the question is, do do you have do do either of does this create a special private gain or loss to the boards that you're serving on? I have no idea. Was all health foundation board members

down here? The intention of of the resolution? I don't think so. to allow the hospitals to to recover. Go ahead, Paula. Thank you. Um, so the directed hospital payment program is a federal program that basically allows states to direct uh Medicaid funds uh to hospitals to improve access and quality of care. And so in Florida, this is funded primarily through local hospital assessments. And so that's the purpose of this. Those funds are then pulled together and matched with federal dollars uh so that then we can redistribute those to the local hospitals boosting those Medicaid uh payment levels closer to commercial insurance rates. You don't have an all children's in here here yet. Yeah. Well, that would mean you're the only one who could vote on this item if if there's a conflict. This is a interesting legal I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't violating anything. I mean I I don't think that there's any enrichment that goes on with this. This is just participating in a program and allowing hospitals to to recover the full cost of Medicaid expenses. My my advice for you is that you let your actions stand. Um I will contact the Commission on Ethics. We can reconsider it at the next meeting if there's truly an issue. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for bringing that up. I would not have thought of that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why I said yes. I'm really just like was here so okay. So you can do this one then we'll do the reszoning procedure. voted for it and that no conflict was declared. You didn't say anything which in this state is a vote in favor. Got it. Oh, interesting. Learning a lot today. All right. Good afternoon. Joanne Ravida, Real Property Division. The Real Property team has received a petition to vacate a platted access easement filed by Arlington Dale Mabry LLC. The purpose of the vacation is to allow for the development of the property. The access easement has been relocated via an amended agreement recorded in 2025. There were no objections to this petition and the team recommends approval. Madam Chair, yes. Did we go through procedures? No. It's not a resoning. This is a reszoning. So I let them go ahead. Oh, okay. That's on you. All right. Yeah, we'll pick it up after this item. All right. Okay. I Does anyone have any questions? Okay. Anyone in the public wishes to address this one? Seeing no one, I'll take a motion. Approve. Second. All in favor? I Okay. Now, now you want to do the resoning swearing. There are two two reasonzoning agendas. Regular and consent. Staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and

there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation. The opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative. And the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff or planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the resoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi judicial public hearings. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code. Madam clerk, would you like to swear the public? Yes, please. So, if anyone is going to speak to any of the items, please stand and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God. Thank you. All right. So P63. Yep. P63 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times February 5th, 2025. Mcarios PTOs, planning, development, economic growth department. Item P63 is PTE 257721. This is a zoning amendment in the name of Little Road MPUD master planning and development by Nan Tin. This is uh recommended for a continuence to the August 19, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Port Richie. Um this is a continuence. Does anyone here wish to speak against us? You don't need Oh, we don't have to because it's continuence. Thank you. Next one. Need a vote. Have a vote. Need a second. Need a vote. Not a consent. Second. All in favor? I. We're down to three. Next one. which is the same thing. Okay. P64 is advertised in Tampa Bay Times, April 30, 2025. Item P64 is PD257749. This is a zoning amendment to the name of Pesco Mine MPUD master plan unit development by K&M Pasco 130 Holdings LLC. This is requested for a continuence to the July 15, 2025 Porter County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in date city. All right, I'll take a motion. I move continuence. Lisa, you got a second. Okay, second. Sorry. She's not used to You're the only one that can do it. Got you. All in favor? I And we're looking at a zoning. That's okay. P65 was advertised in Tampa Bay Times March 5th, 2025. Item P65 is PD 257811. This is a zoning amendment in the name of SR52 Elite JDP Elite Development LLC.

Uh, this is a request to continue the item to a date uncertain. Move to continue a date uncertain. Second. All in favor? I. What do you think about that? Huh? You jumped on it. You could do it again here in just a second. P66 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March 19th, 2025. Item P66 is PD250144. This is a development agreement in the name of Riverstone, formerly known as Rener MPUD, by KB Homes Tampa LLC. This is requested for a continuence to the July 15, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Date City. Wait, July. Oh, okay. Move to continue till July 15th. July. All in favor? I. Okay. P67 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March 19th, 2025. Item P67 is PD257838. This is a substantial modification to the Riverstone or formerly known as Rener MPUD by KB Homes Tampa LLC. This is also recommended for a continuence to the July 15, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Dayton City. Okay. Move to continue July 15th. Second. All in favor? I I Okay. P68 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on May 7th, 2025 and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P68 is PD250158. This is a development agreement in the name of project at VOP LLC to design permit to construct a portion of Wart or Elum Road in exchange for transportation development fee credits in the villages of Pasadena Hills. This comes to you with a recommendation to approve the development agreement from uh the planning development economic growth department as well as the planning commission and the BOP planning and policy committee. Yeah, I just I have as and I love the trails. I love the trails, but these road sections are just so big. Um, I just I thought we were going to look at these and maybe do some road diets. We don't need 10-ft utility easements on each side. I thought we had said we could live with five, first of all. Um, and the 8 foot landscape areas, I would I would chop that down to I mean, you can put an oak tree in six foot, right? Um, I just I don't know if anyone else wants to speak to this, but I just feel these road sections. Does anybody have to speak against this? Huh? Is anyone here to speak against it? I just wonder no one inside. There's no one call for public comment is I think commissioner's point. Yeah. Does anyone else want to discuss these crazy road sections we have? Okay. You want to build them developers? I'm trying to put more land into the property owners to the lots. All right. We'll keep it on consent. If no one's here to speak to us, you need to call for call for public. Is that Is there anyone online that wants to speak to this? There is no one online. Is there anyone in the audience? Yeah. And we asked we already asked if there

anyone here to speak against it. No one spoke. Well, I I kind of called out specifically to the road, but Jess um is there. Move approve. Uh it's on consent. Do we have any others on consent? No. No. Okay. I'll take a second. All right. All in favor? I. All right. P69. All right. P69 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times April 30, 2025 and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P69 is PD257868. This is a zoning amendment to the name of Casting LLC, Little Roadzoning, change in zoning from a P2 professional office district to a C1 neighborhood commercial district in west central Pasco County, northeast corner of the intersection of Little Road and Jasmine Boulevard on approximately 3.03 3 acres and Amy Tull, assistant director planning services will make presentation. Good afternoon. Amy Tol with planning and development. So today before you is a zoning a uklitian zoning amendment. The request is to change from PO2 professional office district to C1 uh neighborhood commercial district. The existing future land use is currently calm flu. Uh the calm flu was recently adopted on December 7th uh 10th 2024. The purpose of this is to change the zoning district from P2 to C1 neighborhood commercial district. Um and it is located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Little Road and Jasmine Boulevard. So as you can see this is the subject site location. It is within the embassy district of the West Market area and urban concentration area. Here's a context map just to highlight some of the uh uses in proximity. We do have the school of Christian Academy to the north. It is at the intersection of Jasmine Boulevard and Little Road. Here's just a zoomed in aerial version. The future land use is currently calm. The subject site is surrounded by res one and res six. Uh current zoning is P2. There is a state residential to the north and east. Existing P2 to the south and C1 to the west. So a little uh project overview. So the subject site is as previously stated 3.03 acres. Access from the property is from Little Road, a county maintained arterial roadway. Um, and Jasmine Boulevard, a county maintained collector roadway. There is a conceptually trans uh conceptually planned trail, excuse me, some kind uh segment under the name of Little Road Trail located on the west side of Little Road. Um, there is no priority in the capital improvement for this segment. And uh the applicant has volunteered a deed restriction to restrict uh three uses being a um uh excuse me uh self storage or not self storage facility. I just had this uh sorry gas station car wash and self storage facility. Um this was all part of the action that occurred in December uh to align with the sub area policy that was implemented on the calm flu. And with that, we recommend approval of the requested resoning amendment from

the planning commission and planning development and economic growth. Be happy to answer any questions you might have. What did you say was behind that parcel? Um behind north, south, east, west, north is currently a state residential. That is um a project that is currently under review. You actually just approved a continuence the little road PD and MPUD that was a mixeduse project that's has some storm water mitigation they have to figure out. So this resoning is for that project. Uh no this resoning is south of that. It abuts it. Yeah. Okay. So this is just for C2 C1 excuse me neighborhood commercial with restricted uses. Why are the parcels looking kind of wonky there? What's the green line to the left? P2 uh to which P2 to the west to the west. Okay. I see little road. Is that just your lines are not lined up or Yeah, those are just the parcels. How the parcels are actually delineated. So that's our parcel lines. It look like that's a rightway cor. Yeah, I think that the commissioner is asking about it. It does appear as Yeah. So this is the parcel static. Who owns the parcel to the left of that pink parcel? Can you go back to that one? Yeah. Are those lines right? It looks like this map is simply showing how the zoning districts are flowing through, if you will, the right of way parcels as well. Okay. All right. Um, I don't need a presentation, but do any other board members want more of a presentation? No. Than this from the applicant. You have someone signed up. Okay. It looks like the applicant wants to speak. And then do we have other people sign up? You have. Good afternoon. Cindy Terrapany. I'm the authorized representative for the applicant. I don't need to speak much as I'm happy to be here with you guys. I don't need to speak. Um if there are anyone who's going to speak in opposition, I would like to have some time for rebuttal if that's Sure. So, I don't I think we have someone signed up. So, I don't know if they're for against, but if you want to wait, you can always come back. Yeah. All right. Is there anyone here to speak to this issue before uh Alan Rose is signed up? So, Alan, you can be first. And is there anyone else here besides Allan that wants to speak to this? Raise your hand. No. Move receive and file. Second. All in favor? I. Mr. Rose, if you'll just give your name and address for the record. Yes. Alan Rose, one221 Hilltop Drive, Newport Richie. This has been a continuing thing. We've been working at this for a long time and things keep being brought forward. So, I thought I'd bring you the full picture. Within one block radius of this parcel, there are 30 homesteads, all one acre or more. Many of them are equestrian or farms. This does not is not consistent with the neighborhood. I give you 20. They're all listed there. Oyola

Heights, Golden Acres. I can go the other side of the block and give you another 20. All with one acre or more. These are a state residential neighborhood. It's a beautiful neighborhood. There is no commercial. You can then take and go from Jasmine from Lake View due west three miles. You will not find a commercial parcel. You will not find a commercial parcel for three miles. You can then take from Grove Street on Little Road Gro Street northbound four miles. The only place you're going to find a commercial is where 52 intersects Little. There are this commercial. They represent that there's all kinds of commercial around. not in this location. This is our neighborhood. It is a residential neighborhood and we've lost everything else. But I want to keep as long as it keeps coming up, I'm going to keep bringing it forward to you. This is not consistent with the neighborhood. And when I'm up here speaking to you, I am speaking representing approximately 200 residents that have all signed my petitions. You've seen the petitions come your way. I make sure you see it. The community does not want to see commercial development here. That's enough for me today. It's up. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to this? Isn't this zoned office already? I mean, this is It has commercial zoning today. Yes, it has zoning. No, sorry, Ellen. These people who have just moved up. Was there someone else who wanted to speak? Do you want to speak to this item? Okay. All right. Then you need to get up and and speak to them if that's what you want to do. And when you come to the podium, just give your name and address for the record and then you have three minutes. Judy Armstrong, 10325 Lake View Drive. Okay. It's just that just like Alan said, it is all residential around there. It's right next to residential. It's residential across the street. I mean, how do you get around trying to say it's commercial? And our our deed work shows that it's supposed to stay that way, you know, so why do you think you should change it? And if it was your subdivision, you wouldn't like it. So, please don't do it to ours. We didn't we, you know, we shouldn't have to be coming in here and guarding our neighborhood from people who are encroaching on it in a in an dishonest manner. It seems like it is residential. I mean, it's really residential. It's a it's a bird sanctuary for crying out loud. And so, you want to bring more people in to run over more of our sandill cranes and and all the other animals and all the turtles and all those things that cross the road that you have to get out for and move to protect them. Um, something's wrong. It just shouldn't happen. So, thank you, Jeff. Thank you. Did she need to be sworn in? Good afternoon. Cindy Terrapany, Tarp Terrapany Planning Strategies, 128 East Tarpon Avenue, Tarpon Springs. I am the authorized representative for the

Castang LLC who is the property owner, not the applicant, also the applicant, but the property owner. And the Castangs bought this property about a year and a half ago. It had um three uh dilapidated homes that were being used as a homeless camp. They demolished the homes. They uh worked with the uh your sheriff's department to move the homeless off the property. They've cleaned up the property substantially and they come to you with this plan amendment which you approved unanimously in December last year with the sub area uh special area plan policies that we restrict the uses. We have done those restrictions through a deed restriction which is before you today and we are committed to that. that deed restriction states that these these are the prohibited uses. We cannot have a car wash, a gas station or self storage or any of the live local uh requirements. So I that in in previous hearings those were the main objections both by uh this commission by the planning commission and by the folks who spoke. We've only had a couple of people speak throughout this hearing, Mr. Rose being one of them. One quick comment about the deed restrictions. Mr. Rose keeps talking about the deed restrictions and you all are well aware that's a private matter between the property owners. But furthermore, my client uh requested a title commitment um from his title company from a national company and that those de restrictions did not pull up in that title policy. So we don't believe that this property is subject to them. Back to the land use issues. Um this property is at a signalized intersection of two major roads. Jasmine Boulevard is an arterial. Little road as you all know is a collector. I just um just a couple of comments that the planning commission made when they also recommended it unanimously. They recognized that when Little Road was put in, the area was changed. Mr. Grace said that he further said that no one's building homes on Little Road and it was recognized that it really can't go back to residential. It does have a commercial plan category today. So, the only really uses that we could put on it would be commercial uses. We're committed to the C1 and we requested C1 with the deed restrictions that are before you today. Um I just respectfully request your approval. Um happy to answer any questions that you might have. Um my question is for staff chair. Okay. Is are ga is a gas station allowed here? No ma'am. It's prohibited. That's one of the the four there's four prohibited uses. gas station, car wash, self surge, and live local. And that's in the deed restriction that's uh on the agenda today. Well, I always think the chair should go last. I want to see what comments my fellow board members have here. Lisa, do you have any question? Yes, for staff. For our our staff. Yeah, mine could be for either. Yes. So, stay stay nearby. So, again, this this parcel is not part of the Golden Acres community. Correct. Correct.

It's No, it's not. Well, first of all, the the it is a replat of a part of Golden Acres as a legal description. Yes. Um it is not part of the Golden Acres Residential Community. As I mentioned, my client requested a title commitment and that National Title Company did not pull those deed restrictions up as a restriction on the property. So, we don't believe that the deed restrictions that Mr. Rose continues to talk about apply to our property. even if they did, which we don't believe they do, that as you all know very well is a private matter between us and the other property owners. So the short answer your question, Mr. Whiteitman, is no. We do not believe it is part of Golden Acres except that it was a replat of a plat named Golden Acres, but it's not part of the residential community. Amy, I agree with that. So through our due diligence um we actually did review the plat that was submitted as part of the legal description for this property and it does not fall within the Golden Acres that they are subject to. Golden Acres residential. Correct. And those are two and Golden Acres Residential is a separate correct. The plat that was um previously identified uh through the uh budding residence that plat does not show these parcels as part of that plat. Okay. Um, my question is there just seems to be contradictory. Look, I I appreciate the advocacy by the the residents for the both projects here. This is clearly a a major roadway. Now, I mean, you to hold to to hold properties hostage is just not whether by the county or people who don't own them. That's just that's just a tough a tough way to to do things. Um if this is not if you're saying you have customers saying that it is part of it and you're saying it's not. I think I think I think there needs to be maybe there's just an impass between what we know is fact and what the residents believe they know is fact um on the project to the the north of it. Right. Yeah. To the north of it then the south and then depending on I don't know what's going to go on the the southeast corner of of of Jasmine and uh little there. I think there was a house there that was demolished at some point in time. But today it stands is there are commercial uses. There's commercial zoning on these three parcels. Correct. P2. So office. So the intensity the way I understood it is the intensity of uses is is virtually the same. Correct madam chair. Yes. If this helps. So on December 10th of 24, you changed the future land use designation of these parcels to commercial and now we're switching up to commercial as a future land use. And now you're making the zoning consistent with what you did in December. Correct. And the zoning and at that public hearing um the action was to at to control the zoning district to C1. So, it's more of a neighborhood scale, lower intensity than your C2 district would allow. So, now

we're in a position of if it's anything other than that, we'd be in trouble for the down down zoning. You Well, you shouldn't have changed the future. I'm just I'm using I'm saying in general in general conversation that now it's it's gained a step up now. It's kind of locked in. Correct. Yeah. It's it's a calm flu now. So any zoning action would be required to be consistent with that commercial future land use. Are you able to tell us what the use is potentially going to be on this site? Medical office or something. I wish I would. Um commissioner um my client has does not have anything under contract at this point to sell it to. Um so we we just do not know what the potential uses would be. Medical office is one. Professional office would be allowed. Um, general retail would be allowed in the C1, but again, those four uses that are in the D restriction would never be allowed. Car wash, uh, self storage and gas station and live local. So, somebody explain to me, Amy, is back on your your side of things, what the why is there why the disconnect between what we're being being told by professional staff and then what the residents are believing that it is part of the Golden Acres Pla? Sure. Um, we have continued conversations with them since the comp plan amendment was being proposed and that's when staff did their due diligence to confirm where the subject site is located. Um, so we pulled the property appraiser cards, ran the legal descriptions and the plats that were associated to those. and the plat that was subject to the golden acres phase of the residential community, that plat specifically does not identify these parcels as part of that plat and the legal description does not support that as well. Do we have a a picture outline of what's in the Golden Acres plat and what's not? We if you give us a minute, we could find it. I could pull it up. Yeah. and and I asked for this because there are multiple parcels along Little Road that I think are going to add conflict between residents and what this the decisions this board has to make. So for future knowledge on our CVS right there. She's going to scan it in. So, she actually has the plat that is currently um being discussed from the residents and then the replat as well. So, you'll see that it's not I just I I guess I'm just looking for comfort in a clear legal ease on the record from you all to us about what is Golden Acres Plat and then what is neighboring to the Golden Acres is in plat, you know. Um, I have a question for you. U actually, it might be for for the applicant. I just depending on what happens to the north, I want to make sure there's some kind of connectivity that's in our roles, right? Yes. So, um, actually this has been a proactive approach with the county in both applicants with the Little Road project

that you're reviewing today, the resoning and the Little Road PDMPD. Um, there is connectivity between both the commercial area um and actual connectivity pedestrian and vehicular to ensure that we kind of planned both projects as if they were one. So, there's supposed to be more of a unified connection between the two that are occurring between the conditions of approval because there's there's an opportunity here with the size of this property and and the property to the north to make some entertainment area for the community. Um something special rather than just a strip mall that is vanilla blah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, and is that is the trail I mean we have reservation for I know we don't have the money but we have the reservation for a multi-use trail along this side. Correct. A little and that's all set forth in that MPD of the budding to the north or at least proposed to be. So I I personally think um that it's not part of the residential part of the community and that if if if we do it right it could be an asset to the community. What what what what we're trying to what I'm trying to do, I want to make sure Mr. Rose and everybody he's representing and we know there's a whole bunch of people that everybody has is singing from the same script of music. That way there's no disconnect. Everybody's looking at the same documents. We're basing the decisions off the documents that we see. They're looking out for the community and they know the history of the documents. based in our decisions on it. Everybody has the same information. All right. I saw those when I had my meeting. They showed me the documents, but it's been that's been a while. I'm looking for a a refresher. It's been a couple. All right. So, they're doing some research here. So, the to answer the commissioner's question, this is Golden Acres unit one, which you're seeing. Now, keep in mind that Little Road didn't extend this far north. So when this woods was platted, I believe 1978. So here's Golden Acres. Our property is to like just off that plat just a little bit. So and the only reason I've highlighted the yellow is I just highlighted the streets just to give my you know just to orient myself. It's a little again like a little tricky to say because Little Road does not exist as far north when this was platted. Now if you go to the second page, this is the property that is the reasonzoning case. It's all of this property, all four lots. It's a replplat of part of the original Golden Acres, but again, it's not in this original plat that had the deed restrictions. And again, my client has a title company um who has issued a title policy that states that does not include those deed restrictions as one of the ex as one of the requirements. So, we do not believe we're subject to that. I would also say that after the December meeting um with the at the plan amendment before you all in December in 2024 we my client I spoke to Mr. arose after the meeting. I

committed to him that I would call him and email him when with when our uh public hearing was scheduled for the resoning. He seemed fine with the deed restrictions as we again we talked about it that at y'all's hearing in December. He seemed fine with it. So, I was kind of mystified when he showed up because I did send him a letter and I did tell him about the hearing before any notice went out. And also, Mr. Rose is not with anywhere near the notice area. He's about a mile and a half away on Hilltop which is the next road east of this site. next road that the next north south road east of of Little Road. So, while I appreciate his um activity and his and his advocacy, um I I'm not really I don't quite understand how he would be affected. Um we are going to be it's not there's a there's a a a neighboring parcel that's up for review and a whole bunch of people came out. Yes, sir. I watched the and Mr. Rogers, he advocates for different things on our coast and everything else. So I think he has a little bit of credibility on what what he represents in the community he represents. So Amy, you say you believe you believe that there's not the deed restrictions on there. It's black and white issue for me. Are there the golden acres deed restrictions, residential deed restrictions on these parcels or not? It's a it's yes or no. I don't want to believe. We believe it's either they were there or they're not. the title company pay for title policy issued to my client says they are not they are not and they are the as far as I'm concerned they're much more of an expert than I would be that's a title company they do the research as you all know um we have that title policy if you want me to enter it in record I would it does not list the deed restrictions that Mr. Rose and these folks are are discussing does not list that as an exception to the title policy. Okay. I think because this keeps coming up, chair, should we add that title policy into the record because we keep having these this is such an old project from decades and decades ago. Can attorney should we add that type of level of detail into the record for these as these older communities evolve? M madam chairman I commissioner I whether or not there are deed restrictions is really irrelevant to your zoning decision and as I said before I think when you when you made the change in December you set the zoning that this parcel was going going to be having in the future if if there if there are deed restrictions and that then it's a civil action between the property owners but there's been nothing shown and I you know I trust planning departments yeah I I just don't want this board to make a decision that leads to civil action and people having to get in lawsuits for things over decision that we made like unintentional consequences I guess is what I'm saying that's that's what I want to well the civil action would likely be between the property this

property owner and this board. All right. Um I have a question. U I notice well first of all I don't know what a replplat is. Um so I don't know the significance of that one. Two um I see replat is when you when you plat over something that has already been platted once. What year did that happen? What does that mean? Why why did they do that? Did they divide it into four lots or I don't know why why would someone do that? Just curious. modern theory, not having gone back and looked at the 70s, this says the portion of a track three, which then means that they were carving up lots from a tract, which is a larger section. All right. And so, see, I notice on the right that that long narrow strip, which is that a rideway, an easement? Uh, what is that? Um, it is not a rideway. I believe it's it's an easement. I think if I'm reading it, I think it's 30 foot drainage ement. Uh yes, it reads 30 foot drainage utility and private ingress and egress easement. So it's access. Whose whose district is this? Mine. In ingress and private ingress and egress. Okay. So then I noticed that um the lot to the north also had that road um that that that project had a road also that he is vacating an easement or whatever you want to call it. So to me these parcels were separated potentially by a road. Why you're saying and that one was actually So that one is perpendicular to what was on the image, right? So these are kind of like parted off access. So I feel even stronger in your position. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Because the project to the north was essentially like a flag lot and so that had a potential access which I believe that applicant has an agreement to try to dedicate to that community. Chair, I I'd like all kinds of illegal stuff going on these lots today. Yeah. I don't know. I I'd like to make obviously we don't know what the future is of this project in the lot in the section to the north of it. I'd like well they're two different owners because whatever decision needs to be made they need to be consistent and complimentary of each other. Um agree with that. I would just put out there as well um as a reminder. So in December when we did execute the comp plan amendment with the sub area policy, the sub area policy restricted the zoning district to C1. So that's the option for the zoning matter here. If there would be a change um then you would have to come back. I'm not I'm not so sure of the what the what the what the fate of the project is to the north of it. Correct. And I I'd like to have a better understanding of where that's going to land before before this because depending on what happens to it, they I think they need to be complimentary and complimentary neighborhood. So, I don't know. My my my instinct right now is until we get an update on what happens to the north of it is to continue this. I I think we need to see a bigger picture plan for for what's going on here. I'll support that too, Mr. Jagger.

Yeah. With all due respect, we've been in this process more than a year and a half, totally separate owners. We are, as I understand from um from Amy that there is going to be a requirement that the property to the north because it is an MPD be required to stub out. We will accept that stub out and that connection through our property. They might want to come down and get to the light, but this is our own case. We're standing on our own two feet. Would respectfully request that we get approved today and then whatever connection needs to be made, we're uklidian project. We don't h you don't have any ability to impose that on us, but we're agreeing to do it. We will accept their road coming through. We obviously we want to coordinate with them where it goes, but they they need to stand on their own and we need to stand on our own and we've like I said, we've been in this process over a year and a half. My client cannot move forward. He can't get any users for the property. He's standing still paying a mortgage and now I'm dependent on some other case. No, August. No, I appreciate your advocacy, but uh these are definitely two complimentary parcels of what's going on here. And um I haven't had an update from from staff or anybody on what's going on to the north and what's this. I mean, look, things are moving in. We're talking about views view sheds earlier. You heard a debate over over the views of boat shed covers and areas we represent. We got people who are upset because they're losing views of their pasture. Life is changing in Pasco and these infill projects are on major roadways are going to have an impact and change life on people a little bit. So the decisions as we come in and do the these infill projects come through. We got one shot at making sure the decision is the best decision we make for the neighborhood and for the betterment of our county. So a few more weeks I think is appropriate because I'd like to get an update from staff on what's going on to the project to the north of it. So, I' I'd like to continue this um for another couple weeks until I get an update from whoever needs to come come see us. And Mr. Rose, if you and your folks want to call our office, that way we can understand better from your part of the world. You know, Mr. They they they have zoning approval already. They have future land use. Future land use. Okay. We're allowed to continue. This is your district. You think someone can build a house on that corner? I I mean, does this match our future land use map? Yes. So, the reasonzoning would match it. Correct. Then I'm okay with it. And again, there's a sub area policy attached to the comp plan, so the future land use, which means they're limited to C1 with restricted uses only. take a motion. Okay. Um I I'll move to approve. Second. All in favor? I I opposed. I Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. We'll commissioner items. Did we finish everything else in the morning? I

believe you did. Okay, Commissioner Oakley, I have nothing but you have nothing but a 10day trip to South Dakota. Oh, how nice. You could have gone to my NAO uh conference that I couldn't make. I went and saw Mount Rushmore. Very beautiful. If you get an opportunity to go, that's place to go. Shoot, I would they uh they did a dinner. They had a special dinner at the uh Mount Rushmore inside it for the Niko conf my Niko board of directors meeting. Oh, really? Yeah. If I'd known you going, I would have hooked you up. Nice facility. Yeah, it's cool. Did you see the Badlands? Yeah. Yes. Very interesting, right? Yeah. It's small though. Brew anything there. So, it's just amazing that it's kind of mindboggling what the Badlands look like. Yeah. And it makes you I wonder how it happened. I still have my wrapped my brain around it. You know who lives right near there is Christy Sims, our former county attorney. She lives in the town just north of that town at the Badlands. Yeah. Commissioner Weightman. Uh nothing pressing. Just um just a little particular reminder on seeing where we are with our tree ordinance. uh coming up and um whenever it's appropriate to discuss the changes to the live local act. We had some wins in session where we could opt out but also essentially any any zonings in in play now. So I'll I'll ask David Engel to speak to the tree ordinance but regarding the legislative piece we will high level since we're making you know the afternoon sessions that we Yeah. We're going to have a regular item at the July meeting. Okay. Then we'll I'll wait on that. Yes, sir. Good afternoon. David Engel, planning and economic development director. The uh tree preservation and mitigation ordinance is in two parts. The board will see in the next couple of meetings, if not the next meeting, a uh tree mitigation ordinance where we're increasing the fees and broadening the use of funds so we can get that money out on the street for canopy trees. The second component is street uh tree preservation. Last week the planning commission held a workshop to discuss tree preservation. Uh we have a draft um ordinance all ready to go. We got their input. We're going to bring it back to the PC and uh most likely you're going to see that in front of you in September. Very good. Thank you. That's all I have. Chair. Thank you, Commissioner Jagger. All right. So, we went to this is located at Signal Cove. Um, and we had a grand opening for Grace's food pantry and Jack was there as well. So, I will speak for Jack. So, this was great. And the community um when I got there, there was a line out the door of people waiting to get in and so I think they're really going to benefit this from this a lot. So, next slide. So, this was the Sunrise of Pasco Hope Breakfast and this gentleman was Gabby Patito's dad. Oh,

boy. Yeah. them his uh wife was supposed to come but she had COVID and boy was that really moving and he was basically saying in a nutshell like you know he's a he was a firefighter in Hillsboro and he said now you know he was like I I wasn't trained to see the signs of of what those red flags look like. So now it's his mission to make sure everybody knows what what these flags are. So it was very very um moving and touching. Um, also, um, is it coming? Nope. Okay. Well, uh, Saturday we are going to be having, um, we're partnering with the Department of Health and we're going to have a health and wellness fair at Moon Lake Park. So, um, that's Saturday at 9:00 a.m. So, if you know anybody that can benefit from that, please send them our way. And, um, update on area of aging. We just had basically um their audit went well. Um with the budget cuts, they had a great impact video. This lady um she was 107 pounds, had breast cancer, really couldn't get to the store or cook her own food, signed up for meals on wheels, and now she's 130 pounds. So just what a what a great story. So, yep. That's And here's um here's our flyer for Saturday. So, if you guys could share it um on your social media if you live on this side, that would be very helpful because we're trying to get as many people to our event as possible. Very nice. That's all I have. Just two quick items. Um first, as a reminder, your budget workshop is this Thursday at 9:00 am here in Newport Richie. So, we'll be discussing all things budget. Uh the other thing is is as of effective today we've rescended the burn ban and so that's being communicated through the appropriate office. That's all. Um are you I don't have anything and I do not have and I'm going to um just so you know I'm going to not do my CNU stuff because we have two commissioners gone and I want to save all that for that. So um going through mine real quick um we'll see what pops up here. Uh attended the sports coast tourism banquet. That's why missed the NO board of directors meeting. Hopefully they don't kick me off, but I just felt I needed to be there as the chair. Um, got to sit next to Tony Dunie. I Were you there? Oh, yeah. You were at my table. Yeah. Yeah. What an amazing man. Uh, just just amazing man. And he learned a lot about Pasco that he didn't know about even though he comes up here to cycle uh frequently. So that was kind of cool that he rides our trails. His kids went to high school here. And his kids went to high school here. Yes. At Land of Lakes, I think, right? Land of Lakes High School. So, um, uh, attended, uh, station 17, ribbon cutting. Lisa, you were also there and so was Commissioner Oakley. Um, it's a a beautiful, beautiful fire station. Um, I did a trade mission to London. Uh, Mayor Caster, uh, the chair of Hillsboro County was there and the chair of Penllis County, the mayor from Clearwater and the mayor from St. Pete and, uh, Tampa Bay Partnership was also

there and there were some other other people. Um, really a great mission. This is just our private dinner that we went to. Um, we met with uh, let's see if you can see it here. So this this table here at the with the long table, those are all um that was put on by the British American Chamber, those are all business business people who are wanting to move their companies to Florida. So really cool opportunity for all of us to, you know, say why they should move to Tampa Bay. We we spoke a little bit about our our individual counties, but we, you know, sent the me the uh mission about coming to Tampa Bay. Um but we also had some private me and Turner was running around everywhere with private meetings. I I did get to meet I don't have the picture here. I should have taken it. Um the uh gentleman who he's not the president, but he's very high up in the company that is putting their um North American headquarters in my district. It's uh called G&H. They're defense contractors. And they bought Opta um which used to be Photonix. So they're over there on Photonix Drive and and they are uh they have five or six locations in the US and this is going to be their North American headquarters and they were very excited to hear about Amskills and um we may have some opportunity to get some more of their company located here in Pasco County. So that was a great meeting. Um and that other picture go back one also. Um we were at the where we're in the one of these this up this upper left one. We were at the embassy and the state department um brought all kinds of business people there who are looking to move uh to their businesses or expand in the Tampa Bay area. So, it was just meeting after meeting after meeting. All right, what's next? Um, oh, my staff attended the Sparrows Town Hall and um, they also went to look at the um, Zephra Hills where they're building the um, container homes. And I look I look forward to getting out there myself. I haven't been there, but um, these are some pictures that they took of the uh, oh of that business. This is one of Vista Lane. You don't know how many years it took us to get this done. I think Wav Vista was one of the worst paved roads in Pasco County. Have you done Green Key ever? Yeah, it's bad. I'm getting calls about Green Key, too. But Buen a Vista was really bad. Um the Papa's family had a has a ranch at the end of this. So, you know, they're driving down there in their nice cars and and uh they they're getting their tires align, their cars aligned like every every week. Um, I literally went door to door making sure people signed up for the PASS and we got it to 100 uh, not 100% but we got it to over 50 and it passed the PAS but um, it took a really long time uh, because they had a big drainage issue that we had to work out with DOT. Looking at that picture, I sure do wish we had put the power lines underneath. Um, that's kind of rough looking. Kind of sad about that one. There's no street trees or anything. So, that's

gonna be a hot that's going to be a hot road. But, uh I know the people are glad that they um they have a lot better. Yeah, it looks a lot better now. Now, they're going to be calling us because they're racing on that road. You know that. You know that's coming. Um so, skip the Buenav Vista. I mean, the CNU stuff. Um I want to tell you there'll be a survey coming out about child care. Pasco County has been looking at um operating our own child care facility. Um we've been in talks with the school district for about two years now and so we're going to be sending out a child care survey and um we hope that you'll help spread it out to all the employees. Um but I I think it's uh as you saw on the on the information from uh the status of women that That's one of the major issues that and affordable housing. And I want to quickly talk about my chicken backyard chicken ordinance. And I'm hoping that we can um bring that back up. Not everyone wants some, but there are some people in the county that would like the opportunity to have their own chickens in their backyard. And you know, my my niece had a a chicken coupe in her backyard in Seminal Heights in Hillsboro County. doesn't bother the neighbors. There's no roosters. You just get to collect your own eggs in the back. Doesn't smell. They make no noise. So, um you'd be surprised at how many of our residents have them already, but they're not legal. So, we started we did this chicken or ordinance a while ago, and then Wilton was in the egg business, I think, and he didn't really want to see it. You know, can't do the egg business. And so, um but now he's not. He sold his egg business. Well, you can't do your egg business. So, I would love for us to be able to bring this um back. There are some areas that I I agree with you. Some areas really need that. I mean, and really the way things are, egg prices going skyh high. It's And it's good for the kids to see where food comes from. I I lived in uh River Crossing and my son at 10 goes, "Mom, I want to be a chicken daddy." And I said, "What?" So, he daddy. So he went and we bought chickens and and I asked the HOA and they said there are no rules whatsoever against having chickens. So he had Yeah. I mean some HOAs might might not allow it and that those rule over I think there's some zoning issues about that. So um well good. I have support for the chicken ordinance. I think I just counted to three. Yes. So let's bring that back and you know we don't want roosters. Limit the number and all that happy stuff. So, David, um, at our next board meeting, we'll do a little presentation on some of the things we learned at the CNU conference. Yes, ma'am. I know. It was fabulous. That's out. It was fabulous. That's That's all I want to say. So, okay. I think I think we're done. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All the constitutional [Music]

Storm water carries these pollutants directly water foul. Storm drains are meant for clean rain charges are illegal. If you suspect an illicit discharge, please contact Pasco County Department of Public Works at 727834-3611. It's a good idea to put together a preparedness kit or go bag for yourself and your family that is ready to grab at a moment's notice. Everything you need for your kit is listed right in the Pasco County disaster guide found on our in the My Pasco app. Many of these items are probably already in your home. Start packing your kit with the basics. Drinking water, foods that your family actually likes to eat. If your family doesn't eat a certain food, they most likely won't want to eat it during a disaster. As for the canned foods you do like, make sure you include a manual can opener. Include a week's supply of medicine for you and your family along with a first aid kit and hygiene items like toothbrushes, diapers, and extra clothing. Write down important phone numbers. You'll want to gather your important paperwork like medical records, and insurance documents. Be sure to keep all that paperwork in a sealed plastic bag so they won't get wet. Remember, when the power goes out, there's a possibility that it won't come back on for a while. So, toss a book and some games into your go bag. Whether you shelter in place, go to a shelter, or evacuate, having these items gathered and ready to go at a moment's notice will help you reduce your stress when dealing with a disaster. Hey, Tampa Bay, let's come together to conserve water. When it rains or rain is in the forecast, skip a week of watering and save up to 2500 gallons of water. Once a week watering restrictions are in effect. Know your day Tampa Bay. Go to mywaterday.org. [Music] Have you met TED? Pasco County's Transportation Engineering Department or TED is responsible for building and operating a safe, connected, and efficient transportation system for everyone. We ensure public funds go to the best transportation projects. Hi, I am Ted. We build new roads, turn lanes, bike lanes, and sidewalks. I am Ted. We install traffic signals and ensure they operate properly. I am Ted. We make sure that property lines for new development are accurate. I am Ted. We build pathways and make crosswalks safer. I am Ted. Ted works to provide a great transportation system for all of Pasco County. If you have a question, concern, or request for our transportation team, just visit our website and search TED. [Music] The average shelter return to owner rate for cats is less than 2%. That means if you bring a community cat to our shelter, it's not likely they'll end up being returned to their caregivers. Cats

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