5.6.25 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting

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Heat. Heat. There you go. Hello. That was for those three right there. Okay, we are back in session for our afternoon. If you have not done so, please mute your phones. We're going to do a little something a little bit different today because we had quite an unusual morning. We're going to continue with public comment. So, if anyone was here this morning and didn't get to have your public comment on um this is not on items that are up for this afternoon. This is to continue the public comment that we had this morning. So, does anyone here want to address the board that didn't get to get their moment this morning? Wow, this is a a pleasant surprise. I've got a very very important thing to be at and I thought I'd have to be waiting. Jim Mariner, uh 30409 Elim Road, West Chapel, Florida. And uh I don't think I have to be sworn, do I? Okay. All right. Public comment. All right. Uh well uh first of all uh that all that business this morning with the one one way in one way out with the development coming uh I agree completely with those folks and and my point has been for years is that we've got to look at the overall picture. So it was designed that way. It was approved that way. you how many steps did it go through where everybody said, "Oh, this is a good idea." And then now they're looking at putting the the uh entrance and exit on Elim. That's part of the cascading effect that every decision that y'all make uh affects people. So, okay, great. Now there's 126 people coming out on Elim and increasing the traffic there. Um I I do live on Elim. The speeding is terrible, the driving is terrible. Um and it's just more and more and more. Uh one of my questions uh is with the traffic studies and and the like. And I I actually came here to speak on two uh of the issues on Pasco Road uh development. Uh one is which I I saw the traffic study was done in uh August of 203. what's happened in the past year and a half. I mean, the the the the patterns have changed, the number of people that have lived here have changed. So, some of the stuff that we're we're dealing with and we're looking at that as an individual uh uh an individual number based upon that snapshot in time. But what's happening is six, seven, eight different developments are doing the same thing looking at the same number. they're not kind of going into the pot and it's not like you have, you know, a capacity of 500 cars. So, right now we're at 400. This development adds five and they go, "Oh, it's only 405." And then the other development adds 50. Oh, it's 4 and 55. It's not adding and and being added in. So when you're making decisions like this, like reszoning the uh the agricultural uh portion of uh Old Pastor Road, which I think Mr. Waitman and the board, and I think you spoke out about it before, there was a previous um uh item or development that had tried to go in and and you said it's

incompatible. It may have been on the on the east side of of old Pasco, but in general, I don't remember, 106 town homes on that property, that equestrian property. Um, it just there's it's a perfect area to step down it. So just let's please keep in mind that everything that you do affects other things and your time is up. Um I I think I do think though that we do add all the different developments. They all get into the mix when we're looking at traffic. They don't. Huh? They don't. Well, there's there's the transportation expert sitting over there. So we'll ask him when he comes up. Okay. Um who's next? I have Dr. Kirk Phillips. Do you have something you want to be distributed? Okay. Um, I'll take a motion. I move or second. All in favor? I. Madam Chairman, council, good morning or afternoon. I'm here for nothing more than to give you awareness of what we've been doing. Just your name and address for the record. Oh, I'm Dr. Kirk Phillips, also known as Captain Kirk, 2031 Waterview Drive, Holiday, Florida. I'm here with the Pasco Coastal Improvement Council, a nonprofit citizen organization. All morning. Yes, ma'am. I think I might have got confused with another group. I just wanted to give you an awareness briefing. It's very simple. It's an executive summary of 60 years of research and analysis of the 24 miles of Pasco County's coastal regions and what has happened. It's specifically focused on the past 17 years when technology advanced where we can better understand the implications of what's happened to our waterways and our flows. I'm not here about the manatees, the fish, the grass and all that, the scallops. I'm here on infrastructure resiliency, flooding, insurance costs, and tax implications of this. Mr. Paul Bbeby handles the other side of it. The bottom line is you can see the front picture. All eight water basins of Pascal County are impaired both with silk and chemicals. Zero slip permits have been applied with the EPA to take any corrective actions. The recent flooding and events that everyone keeps saying is once in a lifetime and all that stuff is really because what's happened over time by no intentional fault. We created a delta similar to New Orleans. So now when we have weather events, the water can't escape. It's basically, if you think about it, we're trying to fix the drain. We're trying to fix some of the sewer pipes, but we're not focused on the big plant that has to process it all. That big plant is clogged up. That in turn is creating worse conditions for our roads, our flooding, etc. when these storms come in. The events aren't getting worse. It's we're not maintaining and improving as the county grows and expands. So, I want you to look at this. I was at the meeting last week. Uh me and Jerry was actually sitting behind you. Jerry's

with uh Congress Congressman Bill Rack's office. We're both retired Air Force. And I heard about Anlo Island and I wrote a note. That was me. Yes, I was trying not to mention names, Madam Chairman, but I I wrote a note and hand it to him and I said, "We're already talking to the federal agency about that." That would be a federal and twocounty approach. But when you look at Gulf Harbor, there's a cause and effect. When we do something, you have to take that silt and debris and move it somewhere that fixes the long shore drift, which has been disrupted. And that's the ultimate goal of what we're trying to repair from Crystal River to Tarpon Springs. correct the long shore drift and then mother nature will naturally repair herself a lot. If we do both harbors like we mentioned it will naturally shift silk back out to Anklo Island and we don't have to rebuild Ankllo Island. This is all evidence-based. All we're doing as a group is stepping back and looking at it and trying to work with the cities and officials and say we're here to advise you free of charge. Anything we can do, we're here to help you. And Paul, I want us to pay attention to this. I really, really do. Dr. Go ahead. So next week in DC, I actually had the National Geospatial Agency run the models to show me the silt shifts over the past 17 years to validate all this. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. M. Thank you. And I I mean, is here to talk to me? I don't see Dr. B, but this is public comment. So, um, but I know that I want to talk to you about doing something about this. Okay. And I bet Commissioner Young does, too. So, okay. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Jen Carowak. Thank you. Pastor Jen Carowak, 15925 Green Glenn Lane, Spring Hill, Florida. When I first uh came to speak at a at a board meeting, I brought forth Galatians 6 beginning at 8. For he who sws to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption. But he who sws to the spirit will of the spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good. For in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith and those here today. And so I just want to share with you and I've I've got some photos that I brought. Um I've attended these meetings attempting to work through, you know, being respectful of and appreciating the pledge of allegiance. That that should remind each of us that we are one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all people. The justice not necessarily being to accommodate the wants of everyone within the business of Pasco. We certainly couldn't do that. I would have a whole lot, but what is just for all parties. I began attending to advocate for the families and residents of Shady Hills. And I am advocating today and implore you to address the perception that there is a lack of fairness and

equality, justice to the people of all the people of Pasco County. And I stand before you today continuing to advocate for those unanswered questions to receive answers and most importantly for the safety of Pasco County residents. On April 1st, 2025, between 5 and 6:00 p.m., I witnessed at the corner of Green Glenn and Shady Hills Road, there was a young man in the road and he had been hit. And this was a chain reaction as the result of one accident at Softwin and Krella Drive and Shady Hills Road. And it continued down until there was a young man that was hit and unfortunately he passed away. Beyond that, as they were not able to get in, there was issues with getting public safety in. Um, you know, not that the folks in public safety don't want to do their job, but obviously they do. They wouldn't do what they do. And unfortunately, there were within 45 minutes four accidents. And as we continue to build in Shady Hills, especially town home developments, one going behind Cruz Lake and another application that I understand was recently submit submitted off of Old Shady Hills Road. I ask that with with great concern that you certainly would make Shady Hills Road the widening, not just a sidewalk. And I appreciate the sidewalks. Um, we need crosswalks if we're only going to have a sidewalk. There are four schools, the first one being there in 1974. And yet, the only improvement to the road, they're very minimal. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Sorry, these pictures are horrible. I have Edgar Perez, Michael Pre. Good afternoon. Michael Purak, 9152 Kenton Road, Wesley Chufflele 33545 in the great state of Florida. First off, I want to let you guys know I appreciate all of you. I do. And your team, your your directors out here. I really, really do. I know it's hard to see sometimes, but I appreciate all of you. And I appreciate all the work they're doing for you. There's one thing. I'm probably known as the park guide, you guys know, but um Eper CDD, I did want to point out that they have no park space in their entire CDD. And um I'm going to move on to a bigger issue beyond the parks here because in November of 23, you guys voted for uh resoning for an MPUD. It's called Kenton MPUD. 800 residences on 148 acres. And you were bamboozled. And I'm going to say that straight up. We have the emails. They're here all the way back from 2021. where planning directed. Let me let me back a step. Uh madam, when I came and met with you, the planning division was there also and I brought up an MPU where the planning division told the developer, you have to increase density. And we were told unanimously that would never happen with this planning division. So from 2021, this email right here from the developer to the planning division, wow, you blindsided us. We didn't know that the increased density was going to be requested in this location. That's

because it falls in the community hub. It's only supposed to be medium density. There's not supposed to be any high density in this area. Okay. Twice. And I'm going to flip because I only have a minute 27 left. I apologize. Twice the developers engineers was trying to clarify with the planning division that you want high density. You're going too fast for me. I know. I'm sorry. You only gave me three minutes. Just email that to me. Yes, ma'am. I will. community hub. We're only supposed to have medium density and intensity for residentials. There's not supposed to be any apartments in this hub. Here's the purpose and intent. Why is that important? Because even though part of your planning division up here to the planning commission under oath said the comp plan is aspirational, here's your actual land development code. All CCMPud development applications shall be consistent with the intent and policies of the connected city comprehensive plan. We've got a little problem here. I looked up the word aspirational in both the land development code and the comp plan. It doesn't exist. There is no aspirational in either of them. Here's the list of highdensity apartments that have been put into the connected city in the three zones that were not intended to have high density. It was supposed to be medium density. There's been times in the past, and I very much appreciate Director Engel. do, but he's been handed some some wildfires to try to put out and fix. This morning was a perfect example, and this is another one. We need I have three requests from you in 5 seconds. The first one is I need you to please go back. The site is not approved by the planning division. I need you to go back to the developer, give them back what they originally asked for, which was single family residentials, which meets the comp plan in the land development code for this district. The second thing is it is in the land development code in the master plan that the connected city will have an advisory board that will be made up with residents of the connected city. It is time we do that so that there is another layer of protection for you because a lot of these things coming through could be absorbed and brought to your attention and your staff to create motion and fixes without it having to be here and without like the group earlier having to get attorneys involved in lawsuits. These things are unacceptable. They're unacceptable. Um can you your time is up but can you send me your site plan? I mean your um presentation. Send it to all the commissioners. Yes, ma'am. Thank you all for your time. I appreciate you very much. Thank you, Jennifer McCarthy. I do not see her approaching. Tanya Riddlesworth, she had to leave. Thank you. Bri, she's not approaching. Francis Silva. Okay. Not approaching. Andrew um Aieri approaching Dr. Iman. Okay, thank you. Sarah Gonzalez. Okay, she

is. Um someone make a motion please to receive and file. Yes, I actually these legal documents. Someone make a motion. I did motion and we got a second. All in favor? I thank you. Thank you very much. Um this is for the main for each start with those pictures. All right. Thank you. Um so name Sarah Gonzalez, 1667 Albright Road. I'm here to enter more evidence in code enforcement complaint filed by Tom. Petition 32525. First call in 1017 inoperable vehicle no violation. 111717 dumpster 12417 commercial vehicle first responded to truck on call. 2018 rented a parking for tow truck monthly cost 5 miles away. 22 21218 inoperable no violation RVs recreational vehicles 314 N op vehicles same ones no violation 72418 commercial vehicle family in town 3 days it's a RV 9919 commercial vehicle first responder on call no truck there when code got there this morning 700 a.m. Tom in front of our house in PJs taking pictures. Called Pasco Sheriff's file false report of violence against husband. Code showed up heard deputy tell the Tom to leave homeowners alone. It is in the code report on 12920. Commercial vehicle first responder on call. Tom called job harassing Pasco Towing. 21020. Husband went to courthouse file petition versus Tom Boglanum. Stalking. No choice for harassment. No, no court appearance. He went back later in the day. Discuss decision was allegations do not meet criteria for stalking. No choice for harassment. 22020 commercial vehicle closed COVID first responder 2020 to 2021. Preferred to start paper trail by code enforcement. 11:1421 emailed Mariano's office about Tom shot down referred private civil matter. 123 N23 inop vehicles RVs no violations. 2223 inop vehicles. Same vehicles from January. No obligate. No, no violation. 623 24 in vehicles. RVs. Same thing from 2023. Same ones. 421 of 25. Same thing. Another report. Same vehicles. No violation. At this point, if you would look at the police report that you all have in front of you, we need to have someone in code enforcement or commission to tell Tom to leave us alone. This has harassment has caused financial burden, stress, anxiety, depression with most being nonviolation. Tom's wasting taxpayers money for the 30 plus code enforcement to do their job. And Jack, I and I have spoken on this behalf uh before in briefly in civic association meeting. He handed me his card and said, "Call him to never get an answer. Refer to code 530-5 C.5 for RVs." This is an exa a continuous harassment. We are constantly in code. Please refer to the pictures that I handed you, the first set of pictures, if you wouldn't mind showing to him. I've got six seconds left. I would like you to flip through those pictures. These were taken this last report. And if you look at the property, Patrick came in my house the other day from the Phillips. He came out. I asked yesterday actually. Matter of fact, I asked him if Okay. And your time is up.

My time's up. I'm sorry. Either way, those pictures, if you look to them, they were taking. We moved our stuff on 12. Ma'am, your time's up. I know. I just want to make sure. Did you say your name and address for the record? Yeah. Sarah Gonzalez 16677 Albbright. Thank you. 16670. 16677 Allbright Road. It's also in the email I emailed last night because I have a copy of everything. Did you guys get the pack? You want to pass it down that way? Then then this pack goes to the clerk. Okay. Thank you. Next. Yeah, that's all I have that's signed up. Um, is there no one on WebEx? No one's on WebEx from this morning either. No one else audience. Okay. If there's anyone else here who would like to address the board, please come on up and line up. Come on up. Hi. Um, Daffany says, "I just wanted to come before you." Ma'am, we need your addresses. 16230 Cranland Drive. Um, I just wanted to come before you today to let you know how much I've been let down by the county. My perception that every email, phone call has either been ignored or not cared about. I trusted Pasco County officials thinking you were helping me out when you already had no intention of helping me through this hostile taking of my property by a developer. I've been told by commissioners and others that staff messed up, but you all didn't fix it. You let them continue to violate my rights as well as my property. Um, I beg that you speak with me to undo the mistakes that Pasco County staff made allowing developer to take my land. Um, you know, they have an emergency exit by Mary G. Their address is 14934 Shady Hills Road. Um, they said that they were houses to buy. Now it's rent. It's going to be section 8 going right through my property. I can't sell my house. I'm not worried about flooding. I've I've been contacted by David Engel. I'm not worried about flooding. My home's trashed. I have cracks in my roof. I have mold and I have a I haven't mowed my yard. I mowed once last year. I I haven't mowed this year. I don't care about it. It's not a house or it's not a home. It's a house. we are screwed. We can't sell. We can't do anything. And it's totally illegal. That is not They cannot take that for a uh their Ingress Egress main exit. That is a Ingress Egress for utilities. I pay taxes on it. What was the address again? 16230 Ka Drive. How How you spelling that? C R E L A C Krilla Crea Crea Drive. Okay. Crea Drive. Okay. And it was zoned to be 10 homes on 19 something acres back in 2001. And this developer just came in and keeps changing stuff. There's names changed, things marked out, and no no signatures next to it. Gills. It's the Gills family that sold it. So, I'm just I'm just like I can't even sell my house. I've I've been up and been in front of everybody. Jack's been nice enough to

come out and check it out, but I mean though I've it's been over a year and I've sat here and wasted my time because I thought the county was going to help me, you know, and nobody it's just running out the clock to where they landlocked themselves. I've got them flying down the road. I'm working 24/7 365 Thanksgiving. So, sorry, your time's up. Um, I don't know what we can do on that one. I think we staff's met with her. Staff messed up bad. Yeah. Well, um, Carbala, I don't know if you want to talk to me about it. You were going to talk to me, but you put me away. But it wouldn't be it wouldn't be right now. So, okay. Maybe he can reach out. I don't I don't know what the answer is on that one. Jack, that's your district. I've had David Allen out there. JP Murphy out there. They've not done anything. Okay. Well, we can't solve it from here right now, but Mr. Allen, you're going to meet with her or are you going to tell us what the issue is? She has been advised that this is a private matter. It's a civil matter. Okay. It's a civil matter. Is that what you're going to tell us? Uh well, Chair, uh David Allen, assistant county administrator of development services. We've reached out several times to have a meeting um with with the resident and we still have an open invitation that that we would go out and meet with her. Oh, you have not met with her? But that was about flood, not about Okay. Well, he doesn't do flood. He does development. Um Okay. Is there You want to come on up? So, y'all know my name and address. I'm not going to say it, right? Nope. You got a kid. Nancy Hazlewood 34110110. A nice place. Um, y'all have a lot of heavy things in front of you. Uh, and I know that in your wisdom you'll come to the right answers. I I just want to remind you of the Northeast Royal area plan is still there. And the history behind it was that we heard that 40,000 units were going to be approved in between Dade City and Zephr Hills. We started going nuts in the northeast rural area and the county in their wisdom said, "We'll give you the northeast rural area plan in exchange and it can be rural." So, we've been fighting to keep it rural ever since. And I I'm hoping that maybe we can do some things to help keep it rural. I've got an idea or two or three. One of the things is pvious surfaces. I understand there are about four different areas out there to do it. And one of them is the the grass with the rocks or not the rocks, but the blocks in between it. And then there's apparently one that's plastic and another one that's asphalt. But I think the northeast area is going to be your saving grace for water if you don't overdevelop it or put huge amounts of development in. You've got it's the high recharge area, the Brooksville Ridge and the Green Swamp right there. So the pvious surface I would recommend this shell. The other one is for maybe walkways and parking lots for it. And I

was thinking also since you've come up with tiny homes, let's switch it from doing huge homes on small lots to large lots with small homes. But again, lowering the density and saving your natural resources to help out the rest of the county. Thank y'all. Thank you. Okay, I think that's it. I have no one else signed up. And we have no one online. No one's online. Okay, we'll close public comment and we'll go to our 1:30 meeting. And the first one up is P38. Item P38 was published in the Tampa Times on April 16th, 2025. I think my mic was off. Well, do we do that? I was like, why can't I hear myself? All right. Item P38 was published in the Tampa Times on April 16th, 2025. Thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners, chairman. So, P38 was pulled. We're going to pull up further discussion. Does he have to say? Yes. And this is an ordinance, so it's not pulled. It's It's your presentation. Oh, yes, sir. What do we What do I think I should give your name in the department? I'm sorry. Jerry Williams, public infrastructure, fisc fiscal business administration department. Thank you. Okay. PIPA 2550253, an ordinance by the board of county commissioners, Pasco County, Florida, dissolving the Fox Ridge Municipal Service Benefit as of December 31st, 2025, and providing for an effective date and applicability. Does everyone need a full presentation? Absolutely. Okay. Um I'm sad that they're doing this personally, Madam Chair. Yeah. So, I'm going to say I I don't want to see this go, but I'll I'll listen to the projection. There's a lot of storm water stuff still to be done out there. Uh you've got money in it. I think we should be looking to try a way to fund it. Let's go study this thing and bring it back to us to study what are the storm water projects left to do, what's the cost going to be, and then how can we go look at getting funding for it. Well, I heard they have a whole bunch of money in that state. They do. Why don't they put their power lines underground? I think they want I don't think they want to stop flooding first, but either way, let's let's hear a presentation, but All right. So, you and I are kind of alike. So, my apologies, commissioners. So, on uh November 13, 2024, so the advisory board met. They discussed the possibility of um stormwater improvement projects and also the possibility of dissolving this. So after further discussion they came to the determination that they did not want to pursue the additional uh swimwater projects. They wanted to dissolve and receive refunds for the available fund balance. So the um where is this? I'm sorry ma'am. Would you like me to show I'm talking to myself. I just want to find out where it is. I I don't know where Foxid is. We got a lot of foxes in the county. What's the chapel? It's on the south side of 54 near Okay. This is the old Pasco Heights Road and

Bridge District, which is why which is why the MSBU was created in the first place was to because the Pasco Heights Road and Bridge District was defunct and the county had to step in and take it over. All right. But I'll hear the presentation like Commissioner Mariano asked and then we'll jump into it. So the MSVU consists of 11.51 road miles, 610 ERUS, and 755 acres. And this is a uh a map depicting the boundaries of the MSPU. And what we uh what we'd like to do is uh recommend accept public comment and adopt the uh proposed ordinance. Commissioner. Yeah. So I I was I was asking staff for I need I need more information. I want to see the project etc. I think they're reacting to an advisory board. Now keep in mind this thing has been in place for many many years. How many years? I think uh it was approved in 200 I think was 14. Okay. So with all that said they've been collecting money trying to do these projects. They have I think this advisor was the desire to end it. But all those people that wanted this since 2014, they were here in this in this very office very uh commission and just saying how they wanted to get this stuff fixed. We had projects together. We had a team going out there. I was out there when they're digging the trenches, cleaning some stuff up that needed to be maintained. There's solutions out there to get this fixed. There's like a classic infill that they're, you know, they've been they've assessed themselves. You know, we've put the MSB in place. It is a great project to finish, but we need to finish it. We can't end it now. And all those people that have contributed over the years to put this money in to get this done should have the project. So, what So, what is it? There's There is a storm water There's a storm water plan. If you talk to the plan, that'd be great. Maybe Jason could. Uh, good afternoon. Um, commissioners, Jason Ml, public works director. Uh, yeah. So, we we've been working with this community since 2014. Um there there's a couple different items that they'd like to get done in the community. Some of it storm water conveyance, some of it was um paving of the roads. So, they had they had charged themselves to make some decisions with where they wanted to go. Um when we gave them an estimate on approximately what it would cost for the stormwater plan, it was a lot more than they had collected. So they decided at that point that but that doesn't mean they don't have responsibilities for their ponds and where's that money going to come from just cuz they dissolve their little HOA or whatever doesn't mean the rest of the taxpayers are going to pick it up. So I would be 100% against getting rid of this if that's the way that community is going to be able to fund their storm water cleanups. So, as a as an option, um if if it's okay with the board, public works could take the lead in meeting with the

community again, um and assessing our plan and what we could possibly do with storm water. Maybe there's some options for some funding um that we could we could provide and then take a look at what else could be done. Now, remember, we do have an MSTU, right, to do the road paving. So, they don't have to they don't have to put it towards the roads, but they can put it towards fixing their storm water ponds. Yep. Exactly. I think we should put a plan over the place, but let's let's full let's see the full presentation of what's to be done, what can be done. Uh then maybe even put it contingent upon when you get the storm water done, we'll then put the uh road project into the network. Um well, Madam Chair, yes. Can I So you got to go back and I'm not disagreeing with with either of the commissioners, but the historical framework of this was This land was cut up and subdivided and all its infrastructure was supposed to be put in by the Pasco Heights Road and Bridge District. It was not a county responsibility, right? That was not done. They didn't maintain their roads. When the road and bridge district disappeared, state told us we had to take it over as the local government of jurisdiction. County attorney's recommendation at that time was to create this MSBU and at least get them up to a level playing field with the rest of the county network. Once we get them there, it would make sense to dissolve them and put them into the into the stormwater utility. I mean, they are in the stormwater utility, but have storm water maintained and the roads maintained based as everybody else has. But to my knowledge, they haven't been brought up to any kind of a level of standard for the county. They've just been collecting money out there. And then that's why I didn't want to see this thing get dissolved, knowing the passion of the people from 10 years ago, how much they want to get this done. Yeah. And we kept it going. I mean, there's regular pond maintenance that subdivisions have to do that cost money. And how else how else are they going to collect the money to do that pond? They have ponds. How how much is in the fund right now? It's it's over a million because just just a little over a million. So, can't they start pond by pond cleaning it up? Just to just to clarify, there is more than just pond maintenance out there. A lot of the conveyance has been overgrown. Well, they got to start fixing it. We can increase the MSPU so it gets fixed. Well, Madam Chair, I I'll caution you a little bit with with the response you may get back because this is abing to a meadow point community. They're saying that when Medo committed, it actually made it worse for them. So, I think it's we just need to take step by step and let the liberal study look at it. And I and I I frankly think that we should be looking to the state uh as for matching funds with the million dollars we got, maybe another million. Now, it shortens the gap up. Maybe makes it

affordable and maybe they say, you know what, this is worth doing. But I think we need to really take a little close look at this rather than dissolve it. Let's go look at it. Go back to the people. Go back and study it. Get the state rep involved. Get the state senator involved and find out what we can do. Because as you know, Senator Burgess even says, we want to see these things done. Let's let him look at it. Maybe he can step in and help us as well because I mean with the million dollars and knowing these people wanted this for 10 years ago, I I think it's worth taking a bigger step rather than just dissolving this thing. Where you going to get the other matching file? That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm talking about the state. You get you get representative ma ask the state for it. You could storm water. They do that all the time. Yeah. Why not try? All right. Well, u there may be residents here who want to speak. Um is there anyone here that wants to speak on this issue? Madam Chair, I have no one signed up and no one on this item. Okay, then I'll take a motion. Move to move to continue 90 days. What's the mechanism to make make them spend the money? Because ultimately they're looking for tax relief, right? That's why they're doing it so they don't have to keep paying more into the tax fund. It's pretty simple. No, if they get rid of If they get rid of their MSPU, then they all get refunded, then they're only paying the MSTU for the rope. So, they're looking at tax relief. They're looking to try to not have to pay more tax. That's probably the thought behind this, which is a fair thought. I don't blame it. Oh, I don't doubt it. But if there's a million bucks sitting in there and it's just compounding and it still be What's the mechanism to to make to spend this money? Can the county say spin it or they have to say spin it or what's what's the rules of this is your MSBU it would public works would be the one doing the projects. So then my question is why hasn't been public works been going into the fund and getting some level of work done over the last 10 years 10 plus 10 years. I think Jason can probably speak to that. There's just been a number of um I guess I'll just use chicken and the egg sort of conversations. They relate to roads. They're going to want to get rid of it because they're not seeing any action until they get flooded. Then they What happened? These folks have been living. They know what they're living. They know where they're living. They understand their community and the lay of the land literally. So, but Commissioner, if I could, Commissioner Wman, keep this in mind. We were here with the public hearings in this and they were all complained about the flooding, the flooding, the flooding. The reason the MSP was created is to solve those things. Now, they haven't maybe haven't done the assessment high enough for it yet. But again, waiting for the projects to be

brought. I think now is the perfect time to go look at everything. These people put themselves in the position of we had to solve it. This was the solution. We just haven't executed yet. We need to execute it before we dissolve And you've not been here when we've solved it this way, but this is how this got solved for your golf course community and they're flooding. Timber Timber Oaks. Exactly. MSBU. I understand. My question is why hasn't the county taken the funds and put the funds to work now when it's triple the cost today than what it was over the course of time? Yes, sir. So my my understanding but I would just defer to uh to Jason. So the the requirement to get them in a better situation in terms of storm water runoff was going to be happen in several phases. So I believe a single phase has occurred but additional phases would have had to happen and those additional phases would have caused an increase in their assessment. So they made the determination based upon estimated costs to pause. So, I use the analogy, how many traffic accidents need to happen before they get help, before they get a red light. That's the same. Well, they they've adopted the MSPU adopts a payo model. So, they until they have the funds to do the next phase of the project, nothing happens. Well, then then we're going in the wrong direction. Sorry. So, if we can't do anything with it, either give it back to them. No. Or we need to get to work because it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. the funds aren't going to keep up with the volume of work it needs at I say let's find a way to help them get it done I'm with you yeah because they're going to get flooded I'll do and again I I I think I think we all need to go back and look at historically what happened how this all happened look at the minutes maybe get them produced for us send us the link so we can listen to the testimony was done way back when historically I think it will be very helpful and then I I would like to give staff time to go out and study it put a financial plan together bring it back to us let's go look at it and then we can make a full good a very good decision uh to what's the best thing to do. But we don't have enough information that yet and I certainly don't want to close this thing out now. So I'm going to move to continue. Do you think is 90 days enough or need longer? 90 days is fair. All right. So let me continue this 90 days. August the August 5th. Um your next date the Dade City meeting in the 90day region would be August 5th at 1:30 or soon thereafter. second. Um, and under discussion, I heard you, so based on what Commissioner Whiteman said, you had MSPU and MSTU. Well, yeah, the MSTU is countywide. Wait, wait, is the local pay? Oh, the local one. Okay. So, the paving there's, right? So, they don't have to worry about paving anymore. We just want to focus on the storm water, correct? Maintenance and whatever it is that needs to happen. So, all in favor? I I All right. Good. Thank you. P39.

[Applause] Item P39. Hold on. Let me looking for my application. Here it is. Item P39 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on March 19th, 2025 and affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, item P39 is PD250174. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 14 from res 3 residential three dwelling units per gross acre to res six residential six dwelling units per gross acre on approximately 18.36 acres of real property located at the northeast corner of old Pasco Road and Hadlock Drive and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repealerability and effective ive date. This comes to you with the recommendation uh from the local planning agency and the planning development economic growth department to approve approve the proposed comprehensive plan amendment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote and there's a presentation if so desired. Okay. Um board members, do you want to see a presentation? I would like one. Okay, let's let's roll. We'll have Amy Tol, principal planner. Good afternoon, Amy Tol with planning, development, and economic growth. So today before you is the comprehensive plan amendment uh for old Pasco Road. It is a smallcale plan amendment. This is the adoption hearing. The applicant is proposing an amendment from res 3 residential three dwelling units per gross acre to uh res 6 uh residential six dwelling unit per gross acre to allow for 106 platted town homes on approximately 18.36 acres. Here's the property that's located in the South Market area and urban service area. the subject site being located off of Old Pasco Road. Here's just a context smack to give you some uh perspective of what's in proximity of the area. Uh you do have planned developments that are within a mile radius. It is also a budding rural area 4 and there's two schools in proximity to the subject site. Uh this is the transportation network map. The applicant has agreed for off-site improvements. Um in this map, you'll notice the red area uh old Pasco Road, a segment from excuse me from Old Mill Road to uh Sedgeway Boulevard. Uh they will be uh uh designing, permitting, and constructing the four-lane roadway on that segment. It is an off-site improvement. um that will be set forth in the conditions of approval in the companion MPUD. Uh the segment that's brown to the south is on the existing county CIP. Here's your existing residential three future land use and your proposed RES 6 future land use. Res six. The proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan

policies. And with that, we would recommend the proposed comprehensive plan amendment uh be approved and adopt by roll call vote. And I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have on the comp plan. Madam Chair, yeah, the um improvements for the road going up to the road um that's done as an off-site improvement. Is there credits for that or are they just doing it? I believe it will be subject to mobility fee credits. Applicant can answer. Barbara Wilhight 6327 Graham Boulevard, Newport Rich 34652. This is a 106 unit um project, town home project. Probably the first time I stood before you all and had a client that would take on a project of this magnitude. We are expanding to your ultimate section which is a four-lane section with multi-use paths. Um you already have all the right way except for an easement that needs to come for a pond from the school board. Um, but your rightway is all just sitting there waiting for this project. Because there's only 106 town homes, it's a combination when the DA comes to you, um, because there's a requirement for a DA, it's going to be a combination of credits and then the county will be putting up money to, uh, pay for the difference. So, how much are we expected to pay? I do not have an estimate. Maybe your county engineer does. Is this coming before the project's built or after the project's built? The road. Yes. It's going to come online around the same time. We do not We have not done the DA yet. Like I said, it's a pretty impressive improvement that we're taking on um this small project to improve your road. It'll be our road. Yes. Your road. County road. Can you go to Google Earth in front of those schools for me? Cypress Creek High, Milan High. Um, these are all front-loaded. Yes, they are. Yeah. not my favorite. And I've let a lot of the folks that come in front of me know that I'm kind of like putting a little stake in the ground in in in in the Trinity Odessa area, at least in the 56 54 area, that I'm not going to vote for any front-loaded town homes. I mean, unless unless you're if you're doing a development and that and there's no way to get to the back on the edge or or some part of it, but I just I just can't take them anymore in in that area. If y'all want them in your districts, but I just don't think they the school they're showing Cypress Creek. Well, what I want to show you here is really a frustration to me that um and I appreciate that they're working on the multi-use, but the school district is not even put in their sidewalk. And I just think we got to make sure that when the schools are building their complexes, the sidewalks need to be built along with them. So, I have a great conversation with the new superintendent and um you know, we all are in agreement at future schools.

We need to make sure that we're taking care of these vital pedestrian resources. Well, when are they coming in and fixing this one? Because that road's getting busy. We didn't discuss existing and I think this would be taken care of with this project plans on taking care of that issue. Correct. You're building the school's sidewalk. We are building a fourlane your ultimate section of Old Pasco Road from the school which is Sedway all past this project to Old Mill. And your four-lane cross-section includes the continuation of the sidewalks and multi-use path. I think it might even be a multi-use path on both sides. Well, you're being nice of the school district because I pretty sure David can tell me if I'm wrong or not that they're responsible for the infrastructure on their property and that includes the sidewalk. I don't think there's any disagreement at this point with this administration. They, you know, we have a they get on us about the two-mile thing, the kids walking and us making it safe for their kids, but they need to make their campuses safe so that when we get the sidewalk to their property that once they get on the property, they can get into their school safely. I mean, or or across it. So, we would all concur on that, too. But we're trying to help help solve the problems that exist. I can tell you that the project at Oldm Mill and Old Pasco has a sidewalk improvement that they agreed to offsite down to the schools on the west side. The county engineer had some foresight when he wrote that condition with us on that project and it basically says if somebody else comes along to construct the road, there's a cash out a couple hundred,000 I'm as I recall. So there will be money coming from that project towards this project. So, it's a, you know, it's just a cute, we're trying to put together projects and have them do what they can do and as well as the county to get some of these roads done for you. Commissioner, I think it's it's just a it's a good it's a good way to get these infrastructure projects done in in in parallel here with development. So, you're you're only messing with things one time. So, I think it's pretty good approach. You can go back to your pres madam chair. Just as we go a little further, if you look at where that picture is right now, look down right below. There's a road going up and down. They're not connecting cuz the neighborhood didn't want them to connect. What? Where? Where are you speaking? Uh Cadlock. Would that be Cadlock Commissioner? Yeah. Yes. So, they didn't want to connect there. But just like we just saw earlier earlier today at Eper, there's going to be something probably coming from there or coming from the back. Where's Hadlock? I don't know where that is. We too far. Yeah, we can. It's back up there. Right there. Yeah, that road that goes east west right to there. That's goes back to the baseball. It does. Okay. Yeah. It's a dirt road if I remember. Right. So

down the road there may be some connections, but right now if you don't set up where they could access Headlock Road from one of those spots or we actually did that work. You did that. Okay. We did that work, Mr. Yes. So, we spotted that issue as well and we worked with your county engineer and we have to accommodate all the any of the traffic from anybody that develops around us, whether it's to our north or to our east, we have to bring them through ours. We had to do an extra improvement of where our road intersects with Old Pasco, our entrance. We had to do a larger entrance to accommodate that traffic. We had to put public access easements over our roads that can't be private. So, that so we did that work as well. we work did the work that work as well for you because in your PD&E padlock was the intersection in that PD&E so we had to make this the intersection because that's a private road dirt road um there's no ability to improve that road because a bunch of people have interested but we did do that work as well so that's that um road that's that access you have on the east part of your development the east the north and then we have a I see it to the north and then we have a improved access way, you know, onto Old Pasco um to accommodate that future traffic coming through our project because Hadlock is you can't use Hadlock because it's private and it's dirt. So, we did that work as well. We we've been working on this room for a bit. All right. So, your East West Road that's going to go to connect Old Pasco was going to be able suffice to things behind it. That's correct. Okay. That's correct, Commissioner. And we and the people who moved there I got can't complain that oh that road's continuing. I didn't know it was going to continue. And then whoever's getting to that property on the east side of them Yeah. They're going to come right down that road. So there will be like stubouts in place to show something's going to connect. That's correct. We have to do a stub out to our east and a stub out to our north and as well as put public access easements over our road. Okay. So that uh So, that's taken care of as well. Okay. I I did have a question. I forgot. Do you guys have any questions? Oh, I know what it was because I see your traffic engineers is there. Um question. Um and and uh so this road getting widened, it's going to be able to handle this traffic. Fine. Yes. Steve Henry, links associates. Yes, we did the traffic analysis for the project and yes, it will be able to handle the traffic. Okay. Question on what happened this morning because I know you were here. Um when when you do traffic analysis, do you not look at future developments that are coming in or do you only look at what's there for the moment? No, we we we do it a couple different ways. So one when we started we we have a methodology. So we we'll look at one what is the historical growth in the area. So we in in this

case we pulled counts historical counts on Old Pasco Road on 52 and on 54. And so we look at the growth in the area uh and and look at what that growth rate is. And if that growth rate is less than 2% we'll use the minimum that your code requires of a 2% growth. If it's higher than that we use that. So we try to use a historical in some instances and like on Hudson where there there wasn't much traffic. So even if we used a 2% growth, it wouldn't estimate what was really going to be there. We'll use actual traffic studies that have been done in the area and add that traffic to it. So it's a combination. It depends on the area and we look at, you know, what if that growth rate really is is giving us what that future volume will be. And again on this one also what we do is we have a minimum of a six-year buildout. Even though this project may build out in two years or three years, in our traffic study, we use a six-year buildout to again to grow the traffic up even more than than what we might see at the actual buildout of the project. So, it's it's not one way to do it. We look at kind of look at the area and come up with what the best mechanism is to estimate what that future growth might be. Interesting. Commissioner Joerger, do you have a rendering of what like where the stubouts are are going to be like what that'll look like? I think I seen your MPD item, correct? Because I mean, I'll be honest, the only my concern is, you know, we'll take, you know, Rangeland right now. Like the developer didn't tell tell the future residents that, you know, there was going to be a road there and now Oh, I don't think that's true. And I know the developer. Oh, okay. Well, that's what I was told. Anyway, I just want to make sure that like the the people buying in there, we can we can add a condition if you make it part of your motion that that disclosure happens and I can add that to our condition. You're a small scale amendment in motion assuming that you approve the comp plan amendment. Thank you. Yes, I get all wrapped up in my MPD stuff. So, okay. I just want to make sure you know moving forward when we look at these projects that we're thinking ahead. Commissioner Mariano, did what he say match with what you were thinking? Because you said something different. Let let me help you a little further. He doesn't know what's coming behind him. He doesn't know if there's four or five other developments and those I don't think are calculated in if they're not approved. Correct. Correct. That's why we use a growth rate. That's why we look at historical growth. But you're using 2% for historical growth. Well, no. What we do is we we we pull the the counts. The DOT has counts on every roadway. We pull the historical counts. In this case again it was Pasco Road 5254. We look at that if that growth that historical growth rate is less than 2% we use 2%. If it's more than 2% we're seeing an area growing faster we use that growth rate. So that's just the in your code it says you use the historical growth rate or 2% at a minimum. So that's what we

use. And again, in some areas where because the existing traffic is so low, we may then use the actual traffic studies because the traffic is low and it's not going to estimate what that future growth is. Do you look at Bieber numbers or no? Uh we do not we we just look at at the historical growth in the area is what we typically use. Okay, that was my question. Thank you. Um so so Madam Chair, excuse me one second. Go ahead. Yeah. So, so as you as you're you're hearing, they're not calculating those other things coming behind it, which is important to realize that they don't factor that in. Well, no, I think that's we we do that. That is what the growth rate is supposed to do. The growth rate and what we do is we take the the the growth the existing traffic. So, we'll go out and do existing counts and then we grow it up to% 2% or or whatever that growth rate may the historical growth rate in the area may be. It may be 3% but but the growth but in that area there may not be any development. And then you've got a, you know, 1,00 unit thing coming in down the street, but at 2% you're not going to catch it. Well, but but when they come in in the future, then they will have to do a traffic study to evaluate what their impact. So, you're right. If there's a large project that happens to come in just down the street and it's a thousand units, you're correct. We we may not capture that in our analysis, but when they come in to do their analysis, they will capture our traffic plus that growth. Okay. So it's so so it is it's a cumulative right effect. We can't you know we don't have a crystal ball to figure out who because lots of times developments may get approved but they never they don't happen. Many many do and that's why historically and just you know years and years ago we would have to include every project that ever got built or got and the problem was many of those and you we can go back and look at some of these now that still haven't built. Yeah. So that's when the county came up with the growth rate to look at historical to try to come up with a better estimation of what the the future traffic may be for these projects as opposed to adding in every approved project that there is. Well, it would be interesting to know considering our fast growth rate if that formula is the right formula for us today. Just curious. 554. Um okay. So, oh, and actually to be honest with you, we've we just I'm you speak of 54. We we've just completed some a series of new counts out there. And in fact, we're seeing a decrease in traffic in the last 5 years on 54. Believe it or not, there's actually been a decrease in traffic. And part of that is Rangeland's gone in. Ridge Road has gone in. And so, we did counts before Rangeland and before Ridge. And now we're seeing an actual decrease in traffic on 54 because of now not to say that that's not going to come back. But we are seeing based on historical volumes that we have done, we've done counts over the last 20 years on on 54 and and the last series because of those

roads opening up, we have seen a decrease in traffic. I I was actually driving on it the other day in the afternoon and it was I was like the only car on there and I I was just shocked. So that's shocking early afternoon on a weekday. But when we're we're doing new traffic on 54, we still add that growth rate to it. Even though we see a decrease, we we're still adding that growth rate to All right. Well, let me uh see if there's anyone that wants to speak to this project in the public against this project. Okay, we have one. Is there anyone else who wants to speak? No, I'm not against. Anybody can speak. Well, do I get a You are allowed to speak. Don't listen. Go on up. Um, of consent again. Sarah Gonzalez, 16677 Albbright Road, Spring Hill. Um, to feed on what they're talking about over here on Old Tasco and such, this is not working in Shady Hills Road. How do we know it's going to work with it out here is my question. So, to feed on the same thing, we're experiencing the growth in our area. How do if it's not working in our area, how's it going to work out here? Well, they're getting a they're getting a fourlane road. Okay, we got to figure that out for Shady Hills one day, right? Which is just crazy because our growth is almost as bad as theirs. So, that's where I wanted to feed on with the this over here, Shady Hills is getting a lot of growth, too. And how can we know even though they're getting a lot of growth and you're saying that, how do we know it's going to actually go that way? Because Shady Hills didn't go that way. And I don't really need my whole three minutes, but just thought I would like you guys on that because over there we've got four schools, four schools down Shady Hills. One of them has been since Shady Hills was paved, unpaved roads, and they have done nothing to improve that road. There is still people parking on the side of that road, miles down by Shady Hills Elementary. That's they just added development by Cruz Lake and Mary, Dr. Mary G. Ellis, but yet our roads are not improved. So, how do we know this over here will also follow through when we were told the same thing, you know, so just to throw that in in the same aspect. We're all Pasco County, correct? Thank you for your time. Thanks. Is there anyone else that wants to speak to this? See? Oh, one more. Nancy Hayeswood 34110. A nice place. Um historic growth rate. When's that? 1950. I maybe you need a future growth rate to bounce off of instead of a historic growth rate. Um then I I was listening to this and you've got 18 acres and you want to put 106 units on it. That's an awful lot. That's going from three per acre to six per acre. You're doubling it. This is a chance to start slowing down what's going on out here with your infrastructure and your natural resources. Maybe this is the place to start. Thank y'all. Thank you. Um I think that's the end of public comment.

Come on up, Barbara. And if I haven't said it in the record, I have no one on WebEx for this item. Barbara will hide again for the applicant. Have a site plan. This road is ahead. Old Pasco road is ahead. You had a a route study somewhere along the line. You acquired a whole bunch of rightway which was surprising when we looked at it for you for the county um as to what was going on and had our engineers take a look at what your rightway is, what you needed for this road improvement. Like I say, the only thing you're missing is um some property from the school board. but definitely ahead and that's why this project was able to come in and do this improvement for you. Density actually helps you do road improvements. Um, and this project is it shows that because that's the way we're getting this project done. So, and it is town homes. It's a single family attached versus detached. Um, three versus six. So, just wanted to add those perspectives. Thank you. Okay. Um, move approval. Second with the condition to be added that they're going to the condition to be added will be in 46. Okay. Second. Okay. Um all in favor roll call vote. A roll call vote. Right. Ordinance. Thank you. District one. Commissioner Oakley. I. District two. Commissioner Weman. I. District four. Commissioner Joerger. Here. I here. Say here. District five. Commissioner Mariano. I. District three. Chairman Starky. I. a self effect. Okay. Um, next one. P40. Item P40 was published in the Tampa Times on April 23rd, 2025. Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the board. Keith Wy, director of parks, recreation, natural resources department. Back in March uh 11th of this year, the BCC gave the parks department direction to bring back the existing MST ordinance uh amended to be an all-inclusive ordinance. That's what you have today in front of you. I do have a quick uh recap history lesson and then just an overview of what the actual amended ordinance covers. So the modification basically covers again it's the intent was to be all inclusive. So, it's all operations, all programs, all functions, all routine, all capital maintenance, non- capital improvements, equipment, and salaries. So, that was the assignment back in March. That's what this ordinance would be able to do if approved today. And just a quick uh history lesson, current parks department budget is $22 million. Um, back in FY22, we had a million dollars dedicated for what we call non- capital improvement projects. That's everything underneath $50,000. our existing need that I did not include in this presentation which I did include some pictures because I think that's impactful but uh the just the existing facilities in the ground today the need for capital maintenance is approximately $8 million per year future stuff which I'll talk about later which is those are new capital projects coming online that um anticipated on& and M need is around $5 million and just to clarify starting in FY26 why I think

this is so important I think this is my third presentation by the way so I could probably just do this with my eyes closed. But um as a reminder that I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't clearly um articulate that starting in FY26, there is no reoccurring or defined capital maintenance funding for the parks department. The GO bond, the general obligation money is pretty much either spent or already encumbered. And that's why um you know, we've been so diligent in pursuing this uh this a solution to this issue. So this is just an overview real quick of everything that we currently have in the inventory. Most of you know this so I won't bore you with it. The most important piece is back in 2016 the parks master plan did not contemplate the capital maintenance or the on andm needs. It was both mostly focused on deferred maintenance and the new uh new capital growth needs which we addressed through the park uh impact fee increase several years ago. So what are some things that can um that can be actually funded through capital maintenance? So these are all your parks and maintenance uh renovations, buildings, fields, boat ramps, playgrounds. Uh I made actually a short list while I was waiting just to kind of not give a little more detail on this. So we have an aging lighting inventory at all of our parks 30 plus years. Anticipated approximate cost to replace that to LED. Total infrastructure 16 to $20 million. Now that's the entire inventory. That's over time. We have three major facilities um on the east side of Pasco County. San Pasco, San Antonio, Burks that are in major major need of dugout, back stop fencing, field renovations. These facilities, you know, take a long, you know, they take a beating and they need the money to actually to be recouped. We have 136 plus athletic fields that require residing grass does athletic turf does need to be replaced. It's not artificial. Obviously, it has a life expectancy of about probably 8 to nine years with our use, probably less than that. So, a residing effort needs to actually be budgeted for, which is anywhere between$1 and $120,000 per field. We have two artificial turf fields. um that are pretty much ending their life. That's at Wesley Chapel District Park. That's about anywhere between a million and a half to $2 million to replace those. Um in addition to all that fun stuff, we have increases just like everyone else in the organization, increases to utilities, goods, and services that have slowly over the years has been eating into our operations. So, you know, if we can't pay the utility bill, then we turn around and take it from some other program which is reducing level of service. This is more pretty much a recap just for anyone that hasn't seen this presentation before. And then something I'll get to in a minute after these pictures is we have about $110 million of new park projects that are coming online that um that will you know this maintenance piece will also need to be addressed. So that's that's pretty

important. Uh these are just some pictures some of the field conditions. Again I saw Mitchell I drove by Mitchell. I saw all the dirt. There's no grass. So that yeah, that back stop's about to about to come down. Um what's happening with a lot of our outdoor courts is after a while settling slabs kind of break. You got to go in and do the entire redo which is you would think would be not you know not too expensive but it's like a half a million dollars. So if that if that backs stop goes down, you're not playing softball. I mean you can't play it there. Correct. So again, not to Oh my goodness. Yeah. not to speed that up, but um this is I think what I feel like the message I want to get across and again the purpose for today is to just you know review the amended ordinance but these are the projects that we know are basically coming online. You have about 102 to depending on what happens with connected cities. I don't, you know, just put that as a question mark. You have 102 plus million dollars worth of projects on and m need of 5 to $8 million. So the need's real. Uh I know that I'm not the only department. Parks is not the only department suffering this, but um I know that we hear from the citizens a lot. I know you hear from the citizens a lot on our level of service and we take it in my on my team very seriously. So, we're just we're trying to kind of figure this this out. At this point, I'd like to bring up the director OMD to talk about the finances. She is much smarter than me when it comes to that. So, all right. Hi, Amy Frell, budget director with Pasco Countyy's Office of Management and Budget. So, the scenarios that we're going to present to you today are going to look awfully familiar to what we presented in March because they are in fact the same. Um, but we just wanted to give a refresh, a reminder. It is too soon in the budget process for us to have any updated refined numbers. Just a reminder, we get preliminary taxable assessed value from the property appraiser June 1st. So, we're not quite there yet. Um, so we wanted to just keep running with the same taxable assessed value scenarios that we have already shown you. So, there'll be a little less confusion than trying to predict what we think might happen in a month. So, we have three different scenarios for you. One is if we just fund capital maintenance. The second one is just current parks operating budget. And then the third one is if it were a combination of those two. And then the middle column shows you what the program revenue would be. And then that final column shows you um five-year aggregate growth based off of how just that fund would grow assuming we didn't change the millage rate that we adopted and then just some growth projections on taxable assessed value. And so it's important to remember that currently the only thing that's being funded for parks is that middle row um scenario for operations that capital maintenance piece would be an increase in that level of funding. So if we were to keep a net neutral methodology for our taxpayers moving

forward, we would have to find if the board desired to um commit $8 million, we would have to find somewhere else to offset that money. Maybe if I could check. So on the slide it says cities contribute to the MSTU. Could you explain that? So if the cities were to say yes, we want to be taxed as part of this MSTU. This is um how that the numbers would shake out assuming current year taxable assessed value. The next slide shows you if the cities did not raise their hand and say um yes, we want to be taxed as well. What would that look like to generate the same amount of revenue? Uh what would that look like? Uh the last time we met, um Commissioner Mariano, you did ask us to come back with a fee schedule until we've got So there's two main things that made it kind of challenging for us to be able to bring that back now in May. The first thing is we don't really know what those taxable assessed values are going to shake out to be next month. And then the second main contributing factor is what level of funding does the board want to put towards this MSTU? Meaning what is that millage rate? Because those two numbers would tell us how much the cities would have contributed and then how much would we try to make up and absorb through some kind of fee schedule and assessment. So in short, it would have been a shot in the dark and probably not helpful. Do do any of the cities have soccer fields, baseball complexes, softball complexes? Yeah, Commissioner, I think we talked about this briefly last time. So, it's hit or miss. This the scale, the number that they have is is not sufficient to address the need countywide. Yes. Well, I know, but like I don't think I mean Atlanta uh I don't think Newport Richie has a recreational complex. So, like Date City has, you know, several fields. Uh, City of Zephr Hills has several, and I mean several, you know, a handful. Yeah. Not not not like a regional park. Absolutely. They don't fund their own recreational. Not not to that scale. Correct. Commissioner Marian. Yeah. One of the things I was concerned about with the cities and and the contributions of what happens if that we're going to do all the contribution for 91% of the population covering all the fields. I don't think it's right. I think they should contribute. But one comforting thing I got from let's say the Port Richie in uh Newport Richie their CRAAS if we reduce the millillage down and we're using uh this MSTU instead they're not getting revenue they would have got that they could go dump CRA and it comes into this. So that was a I was trying to think of that Mike as we were talking the other day. I couldn't remember what that argument was. It just came to me a little while ago. But that's the that's the one piece where I got even if the cities don't contribute in um it's going to still help us in a way where not as much is going to go to the CRA. Okay. Okay. So, what do you need from us today? All right. Well, so um next steps in our timeline.

So at our upcoming budget workshop, that's when we'll start to talk about millage rate um and get some kind of idea of where you all sit, where that's concerned. We will have preliminary taxable assess values and then we can roll um we can roll this MSTU through the regular trim process, but today it's approval of the updated ordinance that Keith has presented. Okay. Um, do we need to take public comment? We do. Um, does anyone have any more questions for Keith? Okay, we're going to take public comment on this this one. Anyone wish to speak? Madam Chair, we do not have I There we go. I don't have anyone signed up, but someone go right ahead. Michael, the parks guy. Yeah, the parks guy. This is not why I was here. I promise. I had no idea this was coming up. Uh, Michael Ftoak, 9152 Kent Road, Wesley Chapel, 33545 in the great state of Florida. Um, I just want to say, um, I have coached at Wesley Chapel District Park for many years now. Flag football, baseball, softball. Um, my children now play travel and the reason is the Wesley Chapel District Park cannot fulfill near its capacity of what it draws. The West Chapel Athletic Association has an amazing amazing group of volunteers and such great talent and they want to pour into those boys and girls. And I will tell you there is no reason why Wesley Chapel District Park and Pasco County doesn't have a national little league world series champion at this point. We have so much talent here. Let me tell you how much talent we have in the Wesley Chapel area right now. Just from that park, we have nine baseball only travel teams that have left merely in 9U, 10U, and 11U because there's not enough park space to be able to really push these players to the next level. You have that much talent. You have so much talent here. A good portion of the players come from Hillsboro County because they want to come here and play for these coaches in this program. They come from Loots. They come from Land of Lakes. You've got great coaches. a tremendous amount of talent. I love it when we go to the softball tournaments, the travel tournaments at Starky Ranch. That complex is fantastic. I mean, absolutely fantastic. If you had something like that here in the Wesley Chapel area, you would actually have national championship athletic programs here because you have such a pool of coaches, talent, and player. As Commissioner Weightman said in the workshop, your average age in this county is getting younger and younger and younger and younger and they all have kids and they come here because of a beautiful Pasco County, a healthier environment, things like our sports, our parks, our wreck, getting the kids off of technology and out there actually doing this. And Wesley Chapel, we have one full-size softball field. We have one full-size baseball field, three medium-sized baseball fields. There's so many players and so much talent. There's no choice but they spin off and go out to Burks Park and create more and more travel teams. We cannot

pour enough money in this county into the parks and wreck program, especially in Central County. It is probably the biggest Wesley Chapel issue at hand right now is having a place for our youth. pay attention to this process as we go through our budget and still in this time. We need we need your voices. Yes, ma'am. Can I just piggy back on um so River Ridge plays Wesley Chapel Wednesday or Thursday Wednesday and Thursday night best two out of three and either Riveridge or Wesley Chapel will be going to states for baseball. So that's super exciting. Yeah, absolutely. You have three of the best baseball programs in West Central Florida right here. Oh, we have the same with soccer as well. Well, it is and not enough not enough. Absolutely. Yeah. But and this is a shout out honestly for for all of the coaching and the staff in the area. Wesley Chapel High, Wiregrass Ranch, and Cypress Creek. You have amazing baseball and softball there. You should be very, very proud of it. It all comes out of the Wesley Chaps. We need to fund our maintenance. So, absolutely. I voted for the MSTU, but we didn't we didn't get it. We got Well, we we have an MSTU, but it's zero funded, right? We have zero funds for me. Let's fix that. Yeah. 41. So, Madam Chair, I have no one signed up for WebEx on this item and I did not have anyone signed up. Okay. Come on up. Okay. Because that is your your right. Yeah. See, is 134110. A nice place. I'm sorry to bother you so much, but you're talking my talk today. Um, I want to say that Mike is absolutely right that we need that, but I don't want you to forget the Elamp program. We also need to make sure that that stays healthy, too. We have bicyclist and um those type of lowkey things and hiking that also needs to be supported. So, I'm all over this also. Please give it a thumbs up. All right. Um Mike, um there's no one else. Mike, you want to say something? Yeah, actually if you could put Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me let me go, Madam Chair. Let me go. Oh, I'm sorry. Perfect segue. So, under my committee reports, I was going to talk about Gunnar Hogan from Hudson. His parents are at this game. That's his first. Oh, how fun. He's from Hudson. from Hudson. Gunnar uh was on a triple aoublea team that won the state championship. We gave him a resolution. The team then went on to win the national championship as well from right that that was just sentiment. My wife got that that last night. That was yesterday I think yesterday's game or something where there's a Pasco County resident playing professional baseball right now. just got called up to play. That was his first game. First inning, nine pitches and they're going to strike out already. Oh, that's awesome. So that's So that's how important. And you think about all the traveling teams. These guys traveled everywhere. Yeah. I mean, they had they had some great stories just like we've seen before.

Take a motion. Move to continue. Second. All in favor? I I All right. Next one. 45. I Item P44. Item P44 was published in Tampa Bay Times on March 19th, 2025. Item P44 is the companion to the uh development agreement continuence for Riverstone or Rener MPUD. Uh, this one is a substantial modification to the MPU, but we're requesting the continuence of the May 20, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. at Newport Richie. Um, and this one, you know, I'm really keeping an eye on this if someone's here because this one has the multi-use path that's supposed to be going across Mr. Gad's house, right? And that is very important to the people in this county that that multi-use path is built. So I'm not I am not going to let that slide. Huh? Move to continue time. Yeah. Need a second. Second. All in favor? I I. Madam Chairman, the reasonzoning procedures. There are two reasonzoning agendas, regular consent. Staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners. If staff for planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation. The opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the resoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during meeting. Otherwise, all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi judicial public hearings. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of anos application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found in the board's land development code for reasonzonings. Madam clerk, would you like to square the public in? I certainly would. If you are here to speak in the remainder of the items, could you please stand and raise your right hands? Okay. Uh, do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God. Thank you. You may be seated. Item P45. Yeah. Item P45 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on April 16th, 2025 and affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P45 is PD250183. This is a development of regional impact amendment. DRRI

amendment in the name of Beacon Woods DRRI MPUD development of regional impact master plan unit development by HCA Health Services of Florida Incorporated. It's a modification to the DRRI development order and map H of the master plan to remove some western parcels from this DRRi MPUD and include them in the new HCA bayonet point MPUD to be used for hospital medical office uses and to update the DRI expiration date per previous request. Uh this follows uh MPU and comprehensive plan actions that happened at the last port of county commissioners meeting in Newport Richie. The recommendation comes to you to approve the DRRi amendment request subject to the attached resolutions and and the attachments uh found therein. Um I I see Mr. Jav's here and I know we had discussions on this um and county administrator I forgot to send you those videos of the parking but I need to speak to Mr. Clark about the parking so I guess I need to pull this off the concern and I think the other one's coming off the consent so we have no consent. Okay, consent is over. Okay, I'm going to Who do I send this video to? That room or that room? Um is it Tony over there? No. Can Tony's here? Yeah. Okay. Tony, I gotta find your Let's see here. Um, no, the next one. So, that's an email. Tony. Tony, what's your last name again? Okay. So, TST, there it is. Okay. I'm sending you this video. Hopefully, it's not too big. Madam Chair, that was listed in in my book is district one, but that's district five if I'm Yes. And this is where my doctor's office that I just went to and I've talked to Mr. Clark about this. Um and my issue with this and I'm I'm going to vote for it, but I I need you to come up, Clark. Um is that I don't think they've resolved the parking issue. And I I don't know if anyone else goes up there, but my husband and I go up. I don't know if you remember when I got vertigo. I have to go up there and get checked. And there's they're parking. I showed it to you. I hope he gets it. They're parking on the grass. They're parking on They go up over the curbs. They're parking in the street. So maybe over by the hospital there's parking, but over by the medical Okay, watch my video here. It's a picture. Oh, it's a picture. Okay. Just picture that everywhere. Um I think the video the videos may be um too big. So I don't I don't know how to resolve this. Madam Chair, if I might, Clark Hobby Hobby and Hobby PA 109 Broad Street, Camp Florida have been sworn. Uh I I have seen the pictures and I understand we have a parking issue and I've been in contact with the CEO of the hospital about fixing it. We have a an internal compliance issue at the hospital with some of the people that do parking there and with the staff. But my understanding from uh speaking with Sally, who's the CEO, is they're trying as we speak to change it. They have plenty they have

about 300 more spots on the campus than the code requires. So, what's happening is their own staff and guests are parking in places that they're not permitted to park. And what from what I'm seeing there, I'm guessing they're not even permitted to park there by the code. So, we may have a bit of a code compliance issue as well, but that they're aware of it and they're trying to fix it. But, as you all are undoubtedly aware, the the agenda item that we're talking about today really has nothing to do with parking. All we're doing is getting the property out of the DRRi that it was previously in before you all approved the MPU a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. But I know we talked and um I think they need some kind of sticker system on the car for the employees and then if they're parking where the customers are supposed to be. But but something needs to get resolved or we just can't add any more to that hospital. No, I I understand and and commissioner, I mean I I know you well enough that if we don't get it resolved at some point, imagine somebody from code enforcement may start, you know, paying a visit to the site. Yeah. Don't make a lot of Well, we don't I don't know who tickets is that the sheriff's office or the code the tickets when they're up on the graph up on the curb. I think it's a basic code enforcement issue is best I know. But yes, Madam Chair, yeah, I'm a frequent flyer there. U I've been there many, many times with my family in the past couple years. Uh got a great with Sally Seymour. She's a fantastic co. She was down at Trinity. She's been up here for a couple years now. does a phenomenal job. She's aware of the problem. They've got about 450 interns. They got a bunch of employees. The brand new building they just put out front, which is absolutely phenomenal. Has plenty of parking right there. Yeah. When when it's difficult if you're actually over there and you got to go go through the emergency room if it's late at night or coming out. Uh but there's a big central part of that area that's empty for parking, right? Where they're not parking. So, she's got places to put her employees. She's working on it. It's going to take a little bit of time. And then you get other people that just go out there. But even if you're in the back, if you valet, the valet take your car and you have to even park it yourself. They'll go because it's still even crowded to get to where you'd have to go. So that valley is going to be a key component. But she is working on it. I have full faith in them. And it's got nothing to do with what we're doing with this part of it. But they are working on it. And she's a great CEO. She the right thing will happen. You don't want to go to your doctor's appointment and spend 45 minutes trying to find a spot. And if you don't have four-wheel drive, you're out of luck. You're going to have to Uber there. But if you valet, if you valet there from the front, you have no problem. They'll take your car. They don't even charge you. It's a volunteer valet that comes in there. So for those

who can't find a spot right away, you can valet it. They'll take care of it. And you walk to your dog. Sally did say to to suggest that to you, Commissioner, when you're there, but it that that still doesn't resolve people parking in places where they shouldn't. And Sally's aware of it though, and they're working on it. But she's working on it. Okay. Um this is a public hearing. Does anyone want to want to speak against this item that was on consent? Madam Chair, I have no one signed up and no one on web expert. All right, I'll take a motion. Move approval. Second. All in favor? I. All right. P46. Item P46 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on March 19th, 2025 and affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. I think the only reason that this came off a consent was to add an additional condition. Um, I would propose uh we've got some standard language that we that we use in some of the MPUDs. A disclosure statement shall be included in all sales contracts or other disclosure materials for residential sales within the MPU regarding the east west road and it will be that it will be interconnected to the parcel to the east. Is there a north south one too? The one to the south is an emergency access. We can Oh, the one to Well, eventually it may not be if they develop that road, right? Yeah. So, it's got to be Well, we have it's emergency access to Hadlock only. Um, but that language is fine, Mr. Kenn. I think you you could put potentially could connect. Well, so we had a neighborhood meeting and the gentleman that lives to the south that owns half of that road was very happy that it was emergency access only. I actually had to we had to send him the language. That road is that road is a private road owned by a whole bunch of people. The chances of that actually ever being anything, I guess, unless they're all bought out, which I guess could occur, but um I don't know what you guys want to do. So I mean it's important to him but but the concern I think is 50 years is if if it if it if you open it or if it gets open for them not for to not to go down headlock but but if they come in it's the impact to your project that the commissioner was concerned about the interconnection to our emergency access. Well, if if it was opened to the people to the south to use the public road, that would impact your town homes, right? But it's not because we have a condition that says it can only be emergency access. I don't want that condition for now. You can't change that. Yes, we can. If you want us to write a condition that says because we've written him before, it goes against what the gentleman was told, but it's up to you all. Not now, but he was he owns half of that road. I mean, it's easement over half of his property. How about it? He wants it changed. It can be changed cuz one day this property I'm okay with. We'll probably get developed. Yeah, we have conditions that say and I and it's I can think of the

one family uh trail I think it was that has a condition that says if it's ever proved a standard condition then we then it has to be an access and not just emergency access. There is that language that exists if that's how you want that to read and we can make those changes to the documents. Well, we're really we're really only talking about a disclosure statement. So you want to say interconnected to the parcel to the east and may at some point in the future be interconnected to the south. But I have to come back for a substantial amendment to make to change that from emergency access. I mean if it's if there's a condition that says it's emergency access only coming back for two public hearings to change that. So um and they've probably been telling people that's emergency only. I can tell you that he reviewed our language. the the customer on the street has an agreement. I think we need to stand by it to change it without that customer knowing. I think it'd be wrong at this point. Well, I think this I was trying to make it where the customer is in the driver's seat. If when if and when his property gets developed, he he may very well want that. Well, guess what? We actually have this language. Oh, thank you, Christie. It's condition 23. And then that comes to Mr. County Attorney. is going to add his language, but it does say condition 23, the last sentence, notwithstanding, if when the property to the south of the MPD boundary is redeveloped, the emergency access may be converted to a functional access for if approved by the county. Perfect. So, perfect. Look at that. Well done, Chris. That's what we need in all of these. That's got to be the standard emergency. Okay. Okay. Public comment. Anyone want to speak uh against this item that was on the consent agenda? Madam Chair, I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for this item. Move approval with the access conditions stated by the county attorney. Second. All in favor? I I Okay, thank you much. We finished We finished all the Rs this morning, right? We do not have We have R37. R37. Oh, Adam's been hanging around all day. waiting for his and we were going to make Mike Morris uh stay and write report on tourism activity in the legislature. He's listening to us on Zoom. Oh, is this what it is? I was excited about the MST talk with uh with parks. Oops. Give me a Yeah, not a problem. Yeah. Adam Thomas, tourism director, Florida sports coast for Pasco County. uh as they're getting the uh the presentation uh pulled up. This is just aformational presentation only. This is um all your 2024 fiscal year data uh from the visitor economy and what we've been doing over the past year and the results of of that. So uh over the past year, the Florida Sports Coast uh team has seen remarkable growth. We hosted major youth amateur sporting events, conducted engagement, social media tours, and offered ex exceptional venues

for small market conference, enhancing our profile and boosting the economy. Our achievements are an attribute to the valued support of community and industry partners across Pasco County. Together, we have transformed our destination into a hub of activity and opportunity. I like to celebrate these accomplishments and look forward to continuing the success and collaboration of spirit that makes this all possible through this board and the course development council. So, I'm going to I'm going to move really quickly today. Um I but I I do want to stop on this slide real fast because this is our new tourism lexicon. This is how we're talking to people. This is our 30 secondond elevator pitch. This is how we're communicating to people. This is what I use um at every conference and trade show that um that uh that I get the privilege of speaking um at. So in in summary, we're just a 30-minute drive from Tampa International Airport. T Florida Sports Coast is a place that welcomes a unique mix of waterfront towns, rural attractions, and natural environments. From thrilling activities like ziplining and skydiving to more peaceful pursuits like scalloping, diving, and hot air balloon rides, Florida Sports Coast invites you to play the game your way. So, it's a call to action, right? That call to action is to play the game your way. So, we're launching a new marketing campaign called discover what moves you. And there you can discover what moves you with the experiences that we have to offer when we're telling our story to the uh to the consumer marketplace. So, in 2024, no short of winning some awards, we uh we won two marketing awards, one telly award and one communicator award for the golf is your playground video. So, this is a video that we used last year into this year. It's an evergreen video that really highlights the all the many activities that you can do on our coastline from scalloping to fishing to boating to uh uh paddle boarding, canoeing, anything that you could do on the coastline, zipline, not zip line, I'm sorry, uh wakeboarding, um anything that you can do on the coast. And we won two awards for that. Uh we won a state award for the um uh sports events uh the Tampa Bay Christmas Invitational and the 2024 Florida's best sports events for small market. This this is a an award that we won from the Florida Sports Foundation. It's a state award. Um this I'd like to recognize Canuelo Sanchez for her outstanding achievements in being awarded for the 2024 Florida Professional Professional of the Year for Sports Tourism. She was also the persons of the year for compete diver diversity for sports ETA and she was also the 2024 uh persons of the year for the women's and international trade for the Tampa Bay market. So she brought home the trifecta of awards for Pasco County for 2024. But I also like to recognize Kayla Glazebrook as being one of the finalists for the 2024 Florida Florida's emerging leaders of Florida sports tourism. Wow.

So, we talk a lot about about trade shows and really telling our community story again, really showcasing what we do to the world and what we have to the world. And this is just a couple of the uh the shows that that we went to over the past year. Uh ITB is the largest travel and trade show in the world that gives us the opportunity to showcase our destination on the international stage in particularly to our German market uh visitors. Florida Huddle is another premier trade show that our tour operators and wholesalers from around the globe showcase the vast offerings of the Sun Sunshine State. And that's what we're doing there. We're partnering with these tour operators to really get to uh get the consumer marketplace to know who we are, what we are, and where we are. IPW, this is a leading inbound travel show connecting US travel exhibitors with travel buyers and media uh media trade that promotes their project from products from around the world. And last but not least, um, last month, Commissioner, our chairman Starky and I and and and Consuelo Sanchez had the opportunity to go to Spain and and attend the sports and events Europe, a B2B focused workshop focused group on sports travel and meetings. FAM tours, this is a big part of uh our initiative in our sales and our PR strategies. Um, these are the four big fam tours that we normally do on an annual basis. We have a German operator fam tour that we brought in seven tour operators from the central European market. So Germany um Germany uh Switzerland and Austria scalloping famour we brought in um about six influencers travel influencers from around the country um that are freelance writers also writing for publications like Garden and Gun um Southern Living. these types of publications we just can't afford to buy into because they're anywhere from 30 to $45,000 a pop. Um, and we just don't have the funding to do that. So, we invite these freelancers in to actually tell our community story and tell our activities while they're in market. Our domestic trade fam tour, this was a co-op opportunity highlighting um all there is in the Tampa Bay area from Florida Sports Coast to uh to Tampa uh up to to Crystal River and it was all everything outdoor emerging uh experiences. So international sports tourism is a is a big is a big initiative of ours. And when we went to Spain, uh we met with these six groups that are coming to Saddlebrook uh this month on May 16th for the um the Express Conference International. These are all uh qualified sports events owners that are looking for for Florida. Currently, they're not in the United States, and we want to be the first destination they come to for for uh for for their their clients. again. So exciting that that that means something great. Yes. What is the world breaking? Break dancing. What is it? Break dancing. Break. Wait. And did you see the other one on there? Jump rope. Yes. Wait, there's another one. What's the one? It's calis jump. What's

the one that was Is it calisthenics or It's calisthenics? Yes. Yes, ma'am. It's calisthenics. So, it's jump. It's jumping jacks. It's burpees. It's these. That's different. We We go after unconventional tourism. So, if underwater basket weaving was a was a sport, we would we would go after it. So, these are just some of the uh the conferences that were or the the the events that we're bringing into uh into Saddlebrook into Wesley Chapel into Pasco County over the next uh couple weeks to to really showcase not only Saddlebrook but the entire county of what we have to offer. Marketing campaigns. These are um one funday video co-ops that we did with Visit Florida. We highlighted Dade City, Zephr Hills, Wesley Chapel, and Newport Richie highlighting what you can do there on one fun day. So there's lodging, there's attractions, there's eeries, there's entertainment involved. So all these things make up Wesley Chapel, Newport Richie, Dade City, and Zephr Hills. And you can find them. These are also evergreen videos that live not only on on our YouTube channel, but also on Visit Florida's YouTube channel as well. Our marketing campaigns, Expedia marketing campaigns. Our marketing campaigns are getting a little bit more sophisticated, right? When we're going out to market, we know who we're going to attract, who we're going to target. It's targeting the right person on the right on the right media to get the right return on investment, which we're going to talk about in in just a second. But you can see the impressions that we're generating, the clicks, and the hotel revenue, the hotel room nights, which we weren't tracking before on our marketing campaigns. We are now tracking through our our partners with Adara with um with epsilon with um uh don't ask with Zardico down to St. Germaine and Adara. So I just want to go back here for a second. This is a this is a Hopper. This is an international marketing campaign with Hopper. This is an online travel agency that we are that we are partnering with um to to actually redeemed bookings in hotel rooms. So even though it's only a 204 roomtail room night uh generation that's only for a couple weeks since the since the campaign had had launched. And here's where the rubber meets the road on marketing campaigns on a return on ad spend. So you can see for the month the the the first or the second quarter of the year are our campaign with Expedia and our campaign with Adop uh with Adara. So every dollar that we spend in January gives us a return on ad spend of $1744 back in market. It's the same with February, March, and the total $16.91 back on uh the the revenue that's generated. And the revenue that's generated is also the revenue, the hotel revenue that's generated through these through these uh campaigns on the bookings. I just talked about how we measured. So here's some of the creative that that uh that we kind of push out. So this is Newport Richie obviously that gets broken down into our our brand new newsletter. So we we started this

newsletter back up um and reinstated it uh a few months ago uh as soon as uh we went out subscribers have grown have grown from under 500 to over a thousand. So these are opt-in subscribers that are going to our website looking at the opt-in newsletter or or uh requesting a visitor's guide. These are qualified people that are trying to find out more about our destination so they can come back or or come here for the first time. Our social media is is going gang busters. I just want to highlight real fast uh our Instagram feed. Um about 18 months ago, we were we were less than uh 9,000 followers on our on our Instagram. And I'm happy to uh to announce right now we're over 14,500 followers on our Instagram and counting. This is largely in part to our giveaways, our seasonal attractions, and uh um uh our our marketing efforts from from our marketing team. So, here's just um some some big uh tournaments that that we held at Wire Grass Ranch Sports Campus. We had the Florida Senior Games. We had the US Wheelchair Rugby National Championship that just took place last week. Uh we had the North American Chinese Basketball Association Championship. This was a 4-year project. They were supposed to come in uh uh right when p the pandemic hit, right when COVID hit, they ended up cancing and came back last year in 2024. And this opens a a greater bigger door for the Asian market. So now we get a chance to talk to the Asian Federation for other sports and other um um um other uh um teams to come into into Pasco County. You see those ladies playing basketball? Here are some of our venues that we kind of just highlight. Just move it along real quick. And we were asked to to show what the sports campus is because this is your biggest investment from a board's perspective. This is your greatest asset from a tourism perspective. What uh what the sports campus generated in 2024. So we went from nine events in 2023 to 68 events in 2024. We went from 11,000 room nights in 2023 to to close to 22,000 room nights in 2024. Thank goodness we made that switch. You made that switch. It was it was a it was a a well-needed switch because now we're seeing the return on our investment of of that facility. And with our Mr. Jagger didn't go through that, but we uh switched the management over there. Oh, I need the county took it over. Oh, yes, ma'am. And so all of Pasco County sports events, we hosted over 122 events gen generating close to 36,000 room nights for 2024 generating an economic impact over $36 million and 3,135 teams not individuals these are teams that came to Pasco County last year. Here is an overview of the sports highlights again. North Chinese basketball championship, the Christmas Bay Tampa Bay Christmas Invitational. Um, this the Tampa Bay Christmas Invitational is something to to really watch. I mean, you're talking about 3,200 uh room nights that are coming in for for a week long period, creating over $3 million of economic impact, but these are all division one, division 2,

high school, college ready high school girls that are coming from across the country at the last week of December. So, great time of the year. Uh, and it's just really a good event to to come and watch. So, the impact of Pasco County tourism for for for uh for 2024, you can see that we just we we welcomed a little over 1.4 million visitors into into Pasco County, generating uh close to close to about 10 and a half thousand jobs. Uh that supported a little over 300 million in in total wages and salaries. And the sales tax and taxes that were supported here in at local taxes supported through tourism related initiatives are over $78 million. So our direct spending that happened in 2024 was over 750 700 675,000 I'm sorry million dollars in market and you can see where the categories of spend on accommodations, restaurant, grocery, shopping, entertainment, transportation and other categories as well where where they're spending their money in market. Our occupancy a little flat year-over-year. Uh our rate is is stabilized. Anything above 100 right now is great for us. Um, when I first came on board back in in 2017, our ADR was $87 over the course of the year. Average daily rate. Average daily rate. Yes, ma'am. And that is our revenue per available room. So, every room that we're we're generating, we're generating about $70.40 per room per day. Economic impact. Again, going back five years, and you can see the uh the trend line of of where we're at today. I can tell you right now, we're outpacing all of this for 2025. So, we're we're looking to have another historic year in terms of visitors, room nights, uh direct spend, and economic impact. With that, Madam Chair, um do you recall the name of the new tennis coach that has now joined Zephr Hills? Uh it's um one of the Serena or Venus's coach. So, it's Moratloo. Yeah, it's it's the it's a Moratagloo Academy at Sarah Vanderberg tennis facility. So, they just did a whole rebranding. Um, don't ask me what Moratagloo's first name is. I can barely pronounce his last name. Yeah. Um, but this is uh going to be a game changer for us in Zephr Hills because they're now going to be bringing uh tennis athletes from around the world to Zephr Hills for training. Yeah, it's a big deal. It's bigger than IMG Tennis Academy. When I told my tennis friends um the the name, they couldn't believe it. you know that they they're down in Hillsboro and Penelis and Great stuff. Great stuff. Any questions for Adam? Commissioner Mariano? Yeah, Adam, I had to ask you a couple of questions this morning. I thought we were going to see some of some data presentations, too. But so we sent that slide that you requested over to Colleen. I don't know if Tony, did you get the slide from Colleen? No. All right. While you're checking that, Tony, put those other slides up there. Yeah. And then Tony, I sent you a picture. I sent you two, but I want the the one picture that doesn't say Wikipedia.

I've talked before about pictures like Bora Bora for my daughter stayed in those. So, uh, Keith loves this. Uh, I I love it. Adam loves it, too. Um, but try to imagine the second lake at Sunwest where you take and you put in those if you go back to that pre cabins in the water. you want to talk about like trying to get attention to Pasco County, you put those things out there. I don't I don't know anyone else like it. Um that's lovely right there. There's a co-vari and there's like so there's the there's you can make them overnight accommodations. I think you you generate tremendous amount of money. There's enough space around where even you can put some uh container home type things right along the canal that's right there. That could be a structure that's in the lake as well to kind of highlight stuff. You could even put that actually in the other part of Sunwest as well. Now, I want you to think if you're at Sunwest with this, the second bathroom we built, there's a little cove area. So, picture you're looking at the little cove area. Try to imagine a concrete structure stage area which you probably put a cover over, etc. I want to get some professional look at it. And you kind of divi develop an amphitheater. There's a there's a natural amphitheater right there right now. Now, you take that around. There's already there's already a walkway like you see right there with outlets to go through. you could make this such a concert venue. And I tell you, I just came from the country of Thunder down at at the uh Raymond James. And it wasn't the Raymond James stadium like I thought it was going to be. It was out in a field and that field was not well sorted in a sense of it was dry. Dust was flying like everywhere, but people sat out there and waited and waited for the music to play. Toward the end of the night, it got good. The great thing is about this park is if you go back to that those slides again, please. I want to highlight where the peninsula is. There's an awesome little place that actually the guy who's run the shrimp and crab festival for 10 years, Drew. He says, "I'd love to have a pavilion out along that peninsula area, which could be great for weddings." It's the uh and just other smaller events. That one. Go right. Yeah. So, go right there. So, this So, there's the co Let's kind of look at the cove area there. So, if you look at the concrete area with the rocks around it, then you look at the other side. It's kind of like mirrors the peninsula part. You can actually set yourself up to be on one side of it there on the other side looking out all over the nature on the far side of the lake. Gorgeous setting. Christina and Keith and I were out there looking at it. And it wouldn't take a lot of money to do do that. It wouldn't take a a ton of money to do this here. Though musically, you want to make sure you get it right. And and I've got a couple people professionals. They want to come take a look at it. I've actually got a wedding planner in St. Augustine that wants to come down and take a look

at it for us. Um there's there's a guy that lives in Starky Ranch who does music for a lot of the If you could hook him up, we'd love to bring him up and get his He'll be at Locash on the Sunday night of Memorial Weekend at our at our market. He does the sound every year. Okay. So I mean the things we can do out there for tourism. Um and Adam, so that slide that was with the calculations one, correct? All right. So the calculations then I I don't I don't see it, but it did get sent out. it. Yes, sir. I'm I'm Yeah. Okay. So, pull up the slide. So, when I was on TDC and and Commissioner Stark, you probably go through it now. So, take a look at the uh this this is the data from the tourist zones. So, look at look at Northwest Pasco, $33,000. Go down below at the southwest, $346,000. Yep. Go to the southwest quadrant, you're at 304,000. And northeast passer, where Nancy wants to keep it quiet, uh is at 25,000. Try to imagine if we put that facility up there for the weddings, for the concerts, for the yurts, that would just drive, I think, international attention. Here's my challenge for you, Commissioner Mariana. Go ahead. Um, and because I mentioned this to a few other people is, you know, my son is in real estate development and they actually received some packages from Pasco County that are of groups that are out shopping some big projects um up in their Greenwich, Connecticut office. But what turns them away is the condition of the US 19. Um, and the dilapidation and and the just it's a mess. And so I think if we want to invest money up there, we have to clean up US 19. It's it it it's third world. I I'm going to I'm going to tell you, Starky, I've been saying for a long long time, and you've seen me get ordinances passed about the the pan handling going on what goes on that drives the economy down. We don't have good hotels up there. We're going to take it when we're looking at converting. Got a lot of code violations up there. Well, I'll tell you the your bigger problem comes where the demographics go. When US 19 and everything came along it, you built a lot of two-bedroom, two baths, the GM retirees, the Chrysler retirees, Ford retirees, all come down. They built these two-bedroom things. And when did you have to move in after that? We've got to we've got to promote what we have in our coast and the assets we've got first. That will elevate your demographics up. It's just that you got to get the money people to invest in it and when they when they they shoot I even had some folks in from big money wanting to do workforce housing and they won't go north of 54. Okay. They won't go north of won't go north of Trouble Creek. So think back to when we had NDP lacrosse playing up at the West Chapel District Park. Where were all the hotel nights down south in Tampa? We got very little benefit. When Gordon built his hockey place up there, it elevated the game. When we built our sports ranch, elevated the game. Now you get more

hotels than we've ever had before. You have to have the attractors coming in here. I'm telling you, as this place is now and and staff and this board, I want to thank you all. What we have done up at Sunwest right now, that second trail around that lake, the trail around it, you've got an asset. There's nothing else like it in the world. If we get that uh canal dredge with Sunwest with boats coming in and you can put 3/4 of a mile of boat docks all the way down where people can come to a beach, dock your thing, have a good time, stay overnight in the thing, go to a wakeboard park, which Germans love that stuff. That's where we got the idea from. I mean, this thing here could elevate the whole region on the Northwest and that $33,000 number. If that gets up to a reasonable number, you will make things. But you got to put the attractors in. We're that close right now to get these things in. And we're not talking about big money to make it happen. Right now, we put the big investments in. The rest of it's going to be easy. But the attraction of those things I I think is going to blow tourism up on the west side. And that will lead to your better things as well. But you got to have hotels. I can't have hotels that I can't have hotels that dilapitated where I got homeless people, drug addict people living in there going through taking up space. I got to get the good stuff in there. But I got to have a reason why they're going to come in. They're looking for the stuff and this is like part of it coming out. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? No, I'm just thrilled I'm thrilled. Oh. Oh, yeah. We're on We're not on you. We're on him. That's funny. Okay. Um, uh, I had a picture to show. Um, no, not that one. No, I said not the wicked. That one. So, so when we were um in Spain, the number one attraction in the area was this hike called the Kamanito del Rey. They did it in the rain. I was too terrified to go do it in the rain, so I canled my ticket that day and I went on another day. But that is the hike there. That is a trail that is um hammered into the side of that gorge. And um yeah, I did never I never did look over the edge to tell you the truth. Um, and I I I you have to hike down for like an hour to get to the drop off, the start of that. You have to wear a a hard hat. There's other pictures, but um I I asked if I get scared, can I can I quit? There's There you're looking at some of the pictures. Yeah. Um you know, I'd be like, "No way." Um well, if you look at that architecture, look, it says the most dangerous path in the world. But that was before they hammered the new one in. And and you can see most of these people are like hugging the rock. And that would be me um on the edge. Um but they don't tell you that when you get to this suspension bridge um that's like two and a half hours into the hike. And so if you chickenen out, you have to turn around, go back all by yourself all through that. So I I made it through. I did hold the guy's hand walking across that bridge. But um this is the number one tourist attachment in

that in in that area. 1500 people a day are doing this hike. They did not plan on that. We could do that around the second lake in Sunwest, right? Yeah. So, that's the Kamanito do. Okay. Any more questions for Adam? Thank you, Madam Chair. Okay. Great job. Gosh, I just so glad that hopefully you get to keep your money. Uh hopefully the legislature doesn't mess that up, right? Okay. Um I think we're done with all of that and we're on to Commissioner Oakley. Okay. a few items. I think I have some pictures. So, I guess I should start with I'm afraid of heights. My hands were sweaty looking. This is one where Alex actually go out and visit with this. I was not able to go myself. U watch. This is a drone. Oh, is that the drone dock? That's the drone. And they have a uh I believe they have the video working on this. Very cool. Is this in Land of Lakes? That's it. Mini Pock. Oh, this is the one in Mini Pock. Okay, that's getting a holiday, folks. Okay, I guess that was it. Then we had a meeting down at the Rotary down in Zephr Hills. We met down in the library there in Jeffrey Hills and talked to the non Rotary for Zephr Hills and uh had very good conversation. had quite a few uh probably half a dozen or more. Billy Poe and some of the city officials were there. Steve Spenn was there with us. So, we talked about a lot of different things around Zephry Hills that affected both county and Zephr Hills. So, uh next we have what we had here. Oh, this is where yesterday I went out to um Cypress Creek Junior High School. And when we left that from here yesterday, we left here, they said there was a 100 kids signed up for me to speak to. When we got there, he said, "Oh, there's 180 kids coming to Houston." um I don't think it was that exciting, but those kids were something else. They they were very exciting and strange enough, don't mention Trump in the room because I did and they went nuts. They were so happy and cheerful. You just can't I just never saw that reaction from 12 and 13 year old kids. Wow. In there. So, but it it was a very nice event. explain to them about the commissioners and and just the um way we do things in the county and what it takes to vote that we only hire two people and and our actual employment number is 3912 people that work for the county which Mr. Gabala takes care of all of those except for two. So, uh, but, uh, a lot of good things we talked about with th those kids and they thoroughly enjoyed being there. So, we talked to him from 1:30 to about 2:30 or quarter 3 and um, it was just kind of non-stop when we went in there, but very good day. So, all right, that's all I have. Commissioner Whitney, thank you. We um, no updates for committee reports. has been quiet on those. But we had a last Thursday a very a very nice national day of prayer here at the historic

courthouse and want to thank all the the staff up to set up chairs and and help PA systems and and uh make it make the event the success that uh it is it is every year and uh just a nice time. And then I had to put a picture of Chuck up here for you, Commissioner Stark. Oh, there you go. Is that your name? For for maybe for maybe next year the speaker. Can we afford him? Are you going to treat us treat us? He's probably cheaper than TBO maybe. And um it so yeah. Where does he live? I mean if we do this website a couple He's still doing speaking engagements at 80 something years old. I mean he's he's still literally out there pushing down the moon. Um kicking it down. Yeah. So, and uh also with uh the hospital um Advent Health uh Meadow Points ER opened up at 54 and Me Point Boulevard. So, since it's hospital week, congratulations to Advent on another another emergency station. So, that's all I have. Commissioner Joerger. Okay. Can I have my Yes, ma'am. Okay. Almost there. All right. Oh, Adam left. I don't think you saw Chuck. Okay, so um Paula and Pam went to the Tunnel of Towers where they had a home dedication to Sergeant Hannon. And I don't know if you guys have ever been out to the Dog Good Village, but it's absolutely amazing. It's a great ceremony. It's It's very moving. Okay, next slide. This was our national day of prayer at the Newport Richie Government Center. It was great. They had music and um I was really moved by it. Okay, next slide. This was a ribbon cutting for Grace's food pantry. That was yesterday. So, this I believe is their 11th pantry that they start. So, they help feed um senior citizens. So, and this was in a um senior living home and um Kathy, I had gotten with you to see if their their rents are going up. Um they started at like 640 and now some of them are at $1,000 a month. So, Kathy's looking in to see if um we can help fill the gap for them. So, Jack was with me um on that and I believe that's all I have. Very good. I love that that group. They're they do wonderful stuff. Yeah. Commissioner Mariana. All right. Um, and again, I was actually those might show a picture of tunnel towers. I was to the dedication. It was amazing. The the turnout just was incredible. The whole street was like 12 houses down full. Uh, the presentations were great. Um, great people just uh very appreciative to what's going on. What that that development in just outside of Land Lakes is just such a great thing. The testimony for our veterans and Tunnel to Towers is just a first class organization that did it well. Um, so I want to just talk briefly. Oh, there's a All right, we'll go to the pictures. Uh, that's the Tri County workshop we had. If you would go back. Uh, so the tri county workshop. I tell you, I think the people should know that all the county commissioners from Hillsboro, Pasco, and Penelis all get together quarterly or I would say bannually or quarterly now almost quarterly. At least I would say probably two or three times a year for

sure. And I tell you the meetings we have, the conversations I think everyone will agree that it's great dialogue. gets great input. You kind of get it where you're not getting like two people that sit on the commission with you. You're getting all five commissions. You get a much broader perspective. And I think that helps get get better discussions to find out where we need to go, especially as we talk about NPOS's and merging and and how to best serve the region with all the great things we do. So, I'm gl I want to thank you, Mike, for working with the other two administrators who are great as well to to bring us all together so we can have those conversations. Definitely definitely helps the region. Yeah, I think we all we all agreed the administrators agreed that uh this this particular workshop was round table was was very very good. We were able to start getting into some meteor issues and discuss things of regional importance because I think US 41 and 54 I I got have to tip my hat to you there commissioner start so so but but we just we had real time discussion on legislative issues and so I thought that um it it really it really hit the mark and I was glad it was here in Pasco County too. Yes. Yeah, I think it I think it worked out great. I don't know what's going on with the sound system there, but other than that, I think they love their Florida sports coast and they got a little bump with the Starky Seltzer. We should thank Adam for all I mean, we gave him a nice little bag of stuff. Commissioner Oakley went home with a whole six-pack at the end. Seven. Actually got seven, but I'm But I'm down to five now. I I I was happy to just get my stocky selzer in love. I was good with that. I did go home with two of those. I traded I traded your take the next picture. And steps to recovery did their groundbreaking. Okay. So, as you know, I went to DC trying to get them an extension. We talked about doing CDBGR money for them. The complexities I'll tell you after talking with them yesterday, talking to the engineers, talking to the contractor who started that's only started three weeks ago, this whole lot is cleared. I know. I know. But it's got D. We're going to put more more in. All right. So, the drainage is is all set up right now. As much as I wanted to add the third floor, they would have to like start and with the construction already done, it's too late for that. But there's land right back to where that picture is to the back side that they're actually working with the people there. We might be able to help them if they can go get the land, maybe work on getting the land and building something right next to it so they can still help with the services right there and take care of more veterans. They're going to take care of 32 now, but I I'm sure we can at least double that number coming up. So, it's a little bit different plan from what I talked about, but uh I still think helping is great. Um Marilyn is right in

the middle there with the Bay shirt. She's the one who started this whole thing years ago as she was retiring. Uh she's up to seven homes and now with this new complex all very excited. They get volunteers from Timber Greens. They do a great job for her and uh everybody in the community is really really behind it excited about what's going to happen out there. And you see Marcy grabbed the shovel there. Kathy's right there too. And Paula was probably taking the picture at one point. But it was a great groundbreaking. Very very very encouraging that know we're going to help our veterans with this project. And that opioid money we put in. Yeah. Put them over the top to make the project happen. Otherwise, and we'll get some from the t the trust fund. Yes. So, it was a great thing for this commission to make that happen and it's going to help that area quite a bit and all our veterans. Uh, is that it for pictures? Okay. All right. So, I want to just go back to we saw today um at Eper Elon Bro administrative decisions. Uh, okay. Eli, sorry. It's okay. There's an echo there though. Uh so I I think it's important we and I know we talked about doing this a few months back. Kella Drive was an example where a decision was made and it was changed by staff. Uh we got a lot of uh grief right now in Beacon Woods East where they got a development coming in where they're supposed to go on a road, staff changed it and now we're dealing repercussion after repercussion that keeps on coming. Matter of fact, David, maybe you get the language for me, but they've maybe taken this one road they're supposed to go in straight in for development. Short little run that they decided to go on, and now they're going Who's they? The developer. Okay. So, now they're going on two side roads in a neighborhood with their dump trucks waiting to go in. Thought we fixed that. Well, this is a new one. I mean, same same developer just in the other side of the road. Instead of being the long way through Coral Gluc was like a two-mile jaunt from from Little Road or 5A road Hudson F coming in now they're going a short road off of uh Hudson F. They're supposed to go right in and they're going into the neighborhoods now. No. So we got to go get get some new truck signs out there so they can't go there. But it's it's brutal what's going on. Do we need to start identifying the the construction these ways? generally shut them down or something back in like I think it was 06 or 01 whatever it might have been. We put conditions into it was a different construction road administratively it was changed and these people are suffering for it. So I want to make sure that we're going through this and we get this thing done fast because I don't want to see any more changes done because when you have public hearings and you get the all that public input things are done. when you get, you know, planners, etc. in a room, they don't know all that went on. They don't get to hear it from the people and what was agreed to at that time. Those

changes that were put in are important and need to stay there unless you really republic have another set of public hearings. And I I do I want to get it back into where the public have more control, we've got more control, so we don't have to deal with these issues that we can put our hands up and say there's nothing I can do. So, I want to make sure we get that back as quick as we can. And David, is there something we can do about that? I want to talk about that now. So the two side roads that they go on, what development is this? This is at Beacon Woods East at Aquac. So right now they're on the main road supposed to be Aquara. They're using the two side roads for the dump trucks. What kind of a no truck sign or whatever I could put up there where they can't go on those road? Yeah. Um so David Allen, assistant county administrator development services again. Um the the the project is just a little bit north off of um Hudson Avenue. Um uh the the actual development is Beacon Park and there's a small little section of Aua Clair that connects Hudson Avenue to the proposed project site. That's the main road that that the developers been using to access the site in and out. um the the construction traffic there really started picking up when they they switched from an alternate location that they were using further to the north that was actually a little bit more dangerous because they had to go through a lot a lot more of a residential area to get to the site. Um right now what what the challenge is is some of the things that the developer is doing is is using the side streets um to turn trucks around and those types of things as opposed to bringing them on site. And so what I'd like to do is at least initially reach out to the developer to see what we could do to just limit access to just in and out of the site um without having to disrupt um the community. Part of the other challenge too also for the board's benefit is that um some of the other challenges we've been having particularly with the developers, they've been queuing up their trucks and just parking waiting to get on the site. And as a result of that, they've been blocking folks from being able to get in and out. And we've been coordinating with the Pasco Sheriff's Office to ticket those um drivers whenever that that that situation occurs. Typically in the early morning um usually by midm morning that situation kind of clears out. But that's what I would propose to do before we look at just kind of closing off the road um from the construction traffic because I think we would have to make uh provide some additional language to allow for other types of construction to be able to go in and out because so for example, if someone were to have a road a roof done within the neighborhood, they would have to have the trucks be able to go in to make deliveries of roof materials and those types of things. So, that's what I propose that we do is reach out to the developer to see what we could do to to get an update of their

schedule and and really limit their their Who is the developer? Um, it's Southern um Investment Properties. I believe they're out of Jacksonville. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate Yeah, we got to watch that. All right. So, and and actually David, while you're right there, so I got this email from Denise Sanderson about doing a code sweep in Gulf Side Estates. I look at the area. This is an area that it happens to be right off 19. It's on the uh west side. And as you first like on 191, it's pretty high. It goes to an area lot deeper right now. Um I'm understand we're not doing we weren't doing sweeps and I see we're doing sweeps. I want to say this as far as in my district. If we're going to do a sweep, I want to know about it ahead of time. We've done them before over in certain areas where we're trying to work on different things. So, whatever. But I don't know how you guys feel, but I think if I'm going to do a sweep in my district, I want to know. I can't get what I want to get done. And as Commissioner Stark, you just mentioned earlier, you know, I got to work on the the their how the look of 19. I got pan handlers out there. I've got ordinances in place that work very well in Lee County. I don't want these the thing of like worried about a lawsuit coming up. If I've got a safety ordinance that works, I want to implement it. I want to keep it implemented. I don't want people out there just panling. I want people to know that they can't just give money to those people either. It is a blight. The biggest blight is going on up there. Uh I want to go work on the areas that we know and there's plenty of them in my district up and down the area. We've got homeless camps. We brought on a deputy from the sheriff's office, a corporal to come in to work with our team to go do that. That's what I want my focus to be in my district. I don't want this sweep on some neighborhood that's poor, recovering from a flood, whatever. She can take my sweeps. I don't care. Let every commissioner do what what they want for the district, but I want to treat my district with the focus I want. And frankly, with the code budget that we've got, I want my people to focus on what I think needs to be done as my commissioner. cuz I'm going to tell you the blight that she just mentioned and the up and down is something I got to deal with and I hear about all the time. That's my problem. It's not whether you going to take this neighborhood that nobody else is going to see and they're like I said, they were probably hit with the storm pretty heavy, so they've got some RVs out there. Guess what? That's what's going to happen. No, I know you've touched on kind of several several issues there, Commissioner Mariano. First and foremost, yes, I wholeheartedly agree and I'll talk to our um code code department head to make sure that all of the commissioners are notified whenever we do a sweep in within the district because I think it's appropriate that you have that advanced notice regarding that. Um, in regards to um, the focus within the districts, I

believe um, Denise Anderson has been meeting with each of you to get a sense of what that looks like. And that's part of that um, is to get your feedback to understand what you're looking for within your district so that we can focus on those specific items as well as kind of the broader county perspective um, in terms of what should the code department be focusing on on a broader perspective. And you know, some of the feedback that we've already heard is just really kind of focusing on the the main corridors and the main areas where we have um a lot of visibility with the public. So, north south corridors of 4119 um east west corridors of 54 52 um to really have those as the kind of the focal points of the code enforcement because that's kind of our gateway into our county and those are the areas that we want to focus on as well. So, the way I understood this discussion was supposed to go, what's important to you? what do you want to see in your district? So my answer was I want to deal with the homeless, the homeless and pan family and then after that more homeless and panley. That's my focus. Okay, that's what I want to take a look at. That's what we got to go deal with at least for my area. And I'm I'm not and I think every commissioner should be able to say here's what I want to see happen. And if that means they're going to change their district, so be it the way you have it all lined up. Yeah. But I'm going to tell you, I see pan handlers everywhere now. They're more prevalent now because they know they're not being picked up. They know not be being pressured and they're middle of rightways or in safety. Dangerous issues can't pick them. But you can get them out of the right and again if they're in the right but we don't have a panhandling ordinance. You have a safety rightaway ordinance but that's but I think that's being challenged. You have to listen to him for one county to be challenged at 67. Lee County is not challenging what they're the ones we copied. I don't want to worry about the fear of being challenged. I want to go deal with what we have. Enforce the laws we put in place for the reason we put in place. And that's a board decision. But the version of the ordinance that was challenged in St. John's, I believe, is the Lee County ordinance. They copied it, too. So, you have that same exposure of litigation. We can defend that litigation, but you got, you know, we may we may have resources tied up in in doing that defense. It's a business decision for the for the board about whether or not they want to continue continue on that path. Um, but if but if we keep calling it a pan handling ordinance, we will more likely lose that litigation. I have trouble with the pan handling, but I want to enforce it through the the right of right of uh the safety right away ordinance. So, I may use that term for what the problem is, but it's the it's the ordinance of the safety that I'm looking at. So, if I may add,

Commissioner Mariano Forward, you have been heard. That's why David and Denise wanted to sit with you individually discuss what what are the top issues that you see in your district because our county is diverse. We have more codes and issues than we do necessarily code enforcement officers or resources to enforce everything. And I've I've had various conversations with various board members on on this topic. We've also looked at things that are of general county concern, right? Look at it like it's it's a room in a house, right? There's there's common areas maybe where we we want to see things straightened up and then there's areas in in the rooms of the house that that need to be cleaned up. It's kind of the kind of the analogy that we can use on that. Um, and so we're we're looking at that data. We're trying to allocate our resources appropriately. You've you've been heard on that. You know, we're also taking some steps. I've had some conversations with Commissioner Weightman and others on on how do we look at homelessness, right? That is part of our strategic plan. And uh I think we're having some ideas that we're we're vetting here over the next over the next couple of months that hopefully may address pan handlers, may address the homeless issues that you're seeing so prevalent in your district and that are cropping up in other districts as well. So I I I just want to assure you that you have been heard um and that we will be bringing things back to you and hopefully we'll we'll find that um they they suit the needs of our citizens and you and your districts and your constituents. And and one thing about as far as the appearance of 19 as well, Commissioner Starky, one of the things I like that staff's doing right now is they're working on the tree mitigation ordinance, we can actually allow these people and and I want to make sure we set this thing up that we set it up where it's not just a reimburseable thing or they can like put a bill and get paid right away. But I want to make sure that we can help those business up and down 19 without having to meet the full code, but if they want to dress it up with make good landscaping out there, but we're doing that now. If you drive I I know. I know. That's what I'm saying. They're doing a good job. people complying now in my district and and I tell you and we've got the money to make it apply and that can help that corridor as well as other corridors too. I say redevelopment too making those those storefronts look nicer. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing I want to touch on code is that um I did a ride along with Denise. It was like an hour and a half and we came up with a a a plan. So, it was very it was very helpful and she was amazing to work with and I'm really excited to um see the outcome of that. So, a lot of moving parts to it. It's going to be a huge job, but um we're going to do it. I I am curious if you don't mind me jumping in on your on your issue there. Um is how um that neighborhood was selected. Um we you know, I drive my district all the time

and when I see something a neighborhood going down, um it, you know, it gets noticed in my office, but we also get a lot of calls and and so it's just more efficient for them since they're reactive, not proactive, that if there's an area that has a lot of issues, um they can go in and do the sweep and then they don't have to just look at the house to the left and to the right, but they can, um uh take care of a larger area. So I find them very coste effective and you know they go in with warnings, they don't go in with citations. Um so um it it really uh helps some of the neighborhoods if you don't we have found you know because I have holiday um if you don't go in periodically and remind folks of what the rules are things could go downhill really quickly and so I am very grateful that we do the sweeps and um and so I just I know my my constitu constituents, they think we're not doing enough. I hear it all the time. We don't care about holiday. You're not in here enough. Um, so, and I'll talk a little bit about that in my commissioner items, but you're But again, so you listen to your constituents, you listen to yours, you guys listen to yours. I'm listening to mine. I'm telling you what I'm hearing, and it's been going on for a long time. There's ways to improve it. That's why we've done what we've done. But again, if we're going to focus I mean, we've improved a lot of neighborhoods, but I want to focus on what the biggest problems are first. I'll worry about other things later. But I think it's a hard problem to fix. Sadly, I don't There's going to be a lot of, you know, a lot of opportunities coming up with CBGDR money to try to help these people. Steps recovery is helping people. So, opioid money is helping people. But at the same time, let the commissioner of the district decide where they going to put the resource. Agreed. It takes a lot of energy to go do those sweeps. And that's just one neighborhood. I still got 300 other ones. Well, they they got it done in a day or two. They get a lot done in a day or two. Go. I work. Okay. I think as as Mr. Cabala said, we'll we'll continue to work with you and again, homelessness is is strategic plan priority and and we'll continue to and Denise had a lot of great ideas about that, too. I'm so super impressed with her so far. So, I think she'll be great. Thank you very much. You're doing a phenomenal job. Absolutely phenomenal. Thank you. And actually, Denise brought a great item, an idea to how to deal with something with BCS. So, I thought her idea was very good. It has to do with who's in charge of what. Okay. Um, so you are you done? I'm done. Yeah. Okay. Mr. So, reading the room. I don't know. I I would I was originally planning to have Ralph come up and just give a quick recap of where we are. If board's interested in that. If not, um, I can certainly pass. So, I'll defer to the board. I just know we're getting late. What's going on?

Yeah, I do too. I've had two conversations with our lobbyist, but if others haven't. I think it's good to hear a little bit anyway. Okay. Well, okay. Come on up, Ralph real quick. I have three minutes. The high level, we know live local passed unanimously, but we think the opt out is still in. That's the most important thing. And that'll be decided within the tax package. Do I have that right? Okay. Good afternoon, Ralph Lair, our government affairs officer. So, moving ahead, um the legislature did not finish, but on uh Friday night, they extended, so they'll go back in next week. Uh they've extended till midnight or 11:59 on June 6. We'll take up appropriations issues, uh the implementation bill and taxation bill, as well as a rural communities bill. Um so what you need to know going forward where we stand the um taxation bill uh that the house passed out um contains the following uh problematic issues that we'll have to uh hope go away. Uh tourism development tax. Uh the bill provides um revenues to be used uh in counties for any public purpose rather than being limited to current authorized uses for TDT. Um it would also do away with the tourism development councils. It would dissolve them as of December 31st, 2025 with the Avalor tax uh and which are the property taxes. Um, the bill removes current law requirements uh pertaining to the opt out uh portion of affordable housing that uh passed last year in the tax bill. Um, it also uh unless otherwise uh exempted, all property in Florida is subject to avalorum tax. Um, the bill the bill modifies exemptions for charitable use of property tax for affordable housing. uh in this. So those are problematic issues that what we're being told will not probably end up in the final tax bill, but we do not know. That's part of the negotiation uh going forward. Again, this was the House proposal uh not the Senate proposal. Um as far as the budget's concerned, where do we stand there with our four ask? Uh the East Pasco emergency shelter, we asked $20 million. It's currently in the Senate side for 500,000. We're hope to get that back up a little bit more. House does not have anything at this time. Uh Trinity Boulevard, the ask was for uh 2.5. Uh Senate has 2.5. House has 1.25. Um the Curly Road safe routes to schools, the ask was for 1.5, Senate has 1.5, House has 750. So we still have to work on that one. uh the Sepine neighborhood. Uh currently the ask was for 5,823 526. Currently the House nor the Senate has anything in there. Hopefully we can get something in uh with the sprinkle pot at the end. Um we've been working on the uh appropriations chairs regarding that. And then there's two other issues that uh could come to Pasco County that are in the pro uh uh in the appropriations uh currently. uh fire station number four. They asked was for

$7 million. Uh Senate H uh doesn't have anything in there, but the House has $100,000 currently on that. And then there was a connector roadway uh to a regional research area. The ask was for $9 million. Senate has $9 million in there. Uh House has zero. So that's where we are going into uh I'm listening to the beeps. I got to eat. I think that's what they call the hook. So that's where we are going into the special or the extended session. What did you say about the road? So the uh they had an ask in there for $9 million. This was the connector roadway over by Moffett. Okay. Um Senate has it in there. $9 million. House does not. Um so that's where we are going into what they'll be addressing. Okay. Uh during the extension next week. And then I put out an email on Monday um shows you all the bills that passed that will impact the county. There's about 20 that we we'll have to deal with um including live local, a platting bill, land use bill. And I read David's um summation of the issues we have. You did a really good job. Yeah, that's awesome. um on the live local. Since this is a public meeting, I can say what I just told a a group that was in my office, right? Yep. Yeah. Uh you're an engineer working on a live local, no appointments with me. You're a lawyer working on live local. No appointments with me. You're a land you're clearing land. No, no appointments with me. You're not going to get any appointments with me if you're going on a live local project. That's that was my that's how I'm approaching things. You can tell them whatever you want. I enjoy welcoming them into the office and giving them the what for right there at the dinner table. And then that that's my approach. I watch them squirm. Okay. Which one are you guys next? Okay. County attorney. Um this is late in the day to do this, but I'll just mention it and then we can revisit it at another meeting. Um, I'm becoming con increasingly concerned, as you heard at public comment today, um, with the powers that CDDs think they can wield after if you've established them. And um we're not through no fault of of the teams that we're not we have not thought about what happens when the CDD when a developer comes in and does segments their property into multiple CDDs what the relationship between those CDDs are. While it is true that they're public roads, if they've used tax-free financing, um, if they're CDD2 roads, they're not CDD1 roads. And there is some argument that they think they can privatize the roads from the other residents. And when planning approves the projects, they don't look at it that way. They look at a holistic network of local roads serving

all of the subdivisions. So, um it may and unfortunately this is another one of those things with the where the legislature has said you have the authority to establish them, but you can't make any conditions on it. It's what the state charter says. Um so you've got the choice of either not establishing a CDD or um we may think about beefing up the land development code to deal with these issues that seem to be bubbling up that are CDD only issues. Can we put conditions on the CDD? No. That's what I just said. the legislaturator's basically has said the state charter is because back in the 90s when this started, we would throw in conditions on CDDs usually about whether or not they were going to use portable water or or other things like that. Um, you can enter into an interlocal agreement with a CDD once they're established, which might be behoove us because the developer is in control of them then. But what is happening is once the developer is no longer in charge of the CDD and they have elections, they're elected officials and they want to be they think they come to the same level as you all do. Okay. Well, you heard you heard it from here. All right. Anything else? That's it. All right. Thank you. Hi and thank you. I have two items. Okay. One, during the budget workshop um on the 26th of March, I believe my inspector general Christine Kano, she reported out about we're watching Senate Bill 7:30 which um would increase the audit authority of my office and I just wanted to give you an update on that. So on the 3rd of this month, the Senate has and I'll I'm going to read indefinitely postponed and withdrew it from consideration. Oh, nice. So that is that would have had a pretty tremendous impact budget. Um the other item I wanted to mention is um Operation Standown. It's an annual veterans event. It was held over the weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, April 25th, 26th, 27th. And on that Friday, uh, we hold veterans court and that is my office, the courts, the sheriff, state attorney, public defender all come together to put it on. And it was a very successful event. We um processed 61 cases there, waved $16,300. Um, well, nearly that. And we cleared 42 driver's licenses. And Mike Pisano's office, tax collector's office was there. So, they go went from the courtroom um the makeshift courtroom to my my office, my makeshift office to the tax collector's makeshift office, and they left with their driver's license. The legal one that'll get them into Yeah. Well, I mean, they leave with an actual driver's license. Yes. With got to have that star on it. So, it was just a a great community event, very successful, and I just wanted to to let everyone know about that. We have such great constitutionals. Okay. Uh, now me, I'm going to try and rip through this real quickly. Um, um, I wasn't at the tunnels to towers, but my staff was because

Congressman Billis asked me to attend his senior town hall. I did take some pictures, but uh, it was in Newport Richie and very well attended. The sheriff was there. Um, a lot of different agencies were there and a lot of our staff. So, um, very well attended. Um, I participated in the Mitchell um, H High School Capstone presentations. Um, very interesting to hear our seniors with their ideas and, uh, we we've got some great kids heading off to college. Um, attended the Pasco Corrections Quarterly recognition ceremony at Starky Library with our county administrator. He didn't mention that, but that was a very nice ceremony. Um, finally got to tour hope services. I think that's in Commissioner Weightman's district. If you haven't been there, they've got an amazing program going on. This room right here, um, this lady works for this, I think it's for the state. And these are this is all different kinds of um things that help people with special needs that they can come in and check out and then uh if if it works for them, I think they can get them provided to them. here. All All I actually have a few of these things um in my house um that help you open cans and it's for people of all ages. So, I love that thing for the back up there on the upper right. I put it right here on this chair. Yeah. Um, and they have a they have a little um uh they have they teach skills to people with with autism and others and that's a little uh depart like a grocery store setup where they learn how to check out um food and then they go work for Publix. So, it's very very cool outfit there on uh I think it's Cornerstone um on 41. Um, I also attended the third annual women uplifting women event. There were some people in from here in this room that were there. Sold out people trying to get tickets and they couldn't get any. Um, it was a great event. I just I'm so proud of where that group has now come to. Um, the speaker um Effie Santos from Mattie's Movement was amazing. She spoke at our AMSkills um dinner. She her daughter Maddie um was killed in a car crash at 19 and her daughter cared a lot about her fellow um citizens, her fellow students and kids and very much about um foster kids and so they have a wonderful foster program. But um I just I thought it was outstanding. You did a great job. Thank you. You did a great job as our MC. I want that picture. Yeah. Can you send that to me? So, um, great event. We need a bigger space for next year. We just we we can almost double that, I think. Awesome. It was awesome, right? So, thank you all for coming. Um, I uh hosted an early insight night uh for um John Hopkins All Children's. It was a little embarrassing. We had 40 people RSVP and 12 people showed up. But um this is Alicia who is the CEO of John Hopkins. um they brought a whole busload of their top executives up to the to to Pasco uh for the night and um gave us a a wonderful um talk about what's coming. So, we're very we're so very fortunate to be getting this hospital in in Pasco County and I'm they'll be looking to

stage a lot more events especially coming over to your guys side so maybe you can work with them and they they need people to know what's coming and get out into the community. they have to fund raise quite a bit to make this hospital happen and um so I hope you'll get involved. Um I attended the Rangeland Boulevard exit workshop extension workshop and um it was very well attended. There was a line out the door to sign in. Um and uh I did give some of my comments to staff. I want Tina Russo and I we we do want to look at how the Sun Coast Trail is being handled at the at the Sun Coast and Rangeland ex um where they meet. Um I Tony I sent you a picture of Starky Ranch where the roads are now rangeland um um Commissioner Joerger that that road rangeand has been there since the 70s. It's been planned and for all commissioners to know that that was that was contemplated. Yeah. you remember when John Gallagher was county administrator and actually it was our family who um in in laying out Starky Ranch wanted two roads and and and frankly I think if I were doing Beexley or uh Angeline I would have done what we did and that is not put one big road going through their development of Angeline which is Sunlake Boulevard. It's going to be a big road. Um, we pushed for two two roads. So, we have Lake Planch Drive going east west and we have Rangeland going east west. And I think we would have tried to make the two be more equal. Um, but the developer kind of made rangeand a little superior to Lake Blanch, but they really slowed it down with the traffic circles. And, uh, the road needs to happen. We can't have only one east west road in Trinity Odessa. We already saw what happened when the the um the oil spilled on 54 and that shut the road down. Um but we have to be very mindful that communities on both sides commissioner uh in Beexley and in Starky those are walkable bikable communities and they don't they don't want to lose that. So safety is going to be of utmost importance. Um, but I I do think the roads can coexist with the neighborhood very well. Um, let's see. Uh, we then there was the Tri County workshop. Um, thank you all who attended. We had really great attendance from the other counties. The most we've ever had, I think, as we're missing just a couple. Um, Lala from Penllis and um, um, the chair Kennega. Yeah, he was just returning from Europe. His son's in school in England. though. Um then uh afterwards comm the two county administrators, so all three administrators went to Amskills and um a commissioner from Panelis County. And so I thought that went really really well and uh thank you all for for taking that time. Um on Sunday we have hosted the annual community cleanup in Beacon Square and um it rained in the morning so we thought we weren't going to get a great turnout but um I got there at noon and the trucks were just pouring in. I actually had a hoarder who was um the wife of a hoarder and they were doing a good job of of

getting that stuff cleared out. Apparently they got hit pretty hard in the hurricane and ever since then the husband was just out collecting stuff. You know, people deal with things in different ways. So, um I drove through the neighborhood. There were a lot of people who should have been participating that weren't. U but I I don't know the numbers. I did not maybe I got the numbers, but I didn't get the numbers to to to see uh how much they got. But look, you can see that pile of mattresses. They were laying in someone's yard. all those mattresses. So, you know, in my neighborhoods, this is why I like sweeps. I I I don't want those to be out there in people's front yard. So, um let's see. Um oh, and yesterday, um the county administrator and Kathy Pearson and I attended and Oh, yeah. Uh and Eric, we went through the I can't see you, Eric, so I didn't know you were even here. We we went and toured maps. I don't if you have not toured that. It's the Museum of Archaeology and Paleontology. And what's the S? I don't remember what the S is. Science. Science. We have a freaking gem. It's at Wendrin. He's got a 5,000 square foot space when he needs 50,000 cuz they have artifacts from all over the world. They have thousands of kids coming up there and going through. They have summer camps. They've got mummies and they um African mass and just it's just like the U. It's like the Museum of History, natural history up there. Um so we're going to put our heads together and figure out what we can do. I hope to help him stay here in Pasco County. We're very lucky to have that possible opportunity here. So, thank you very much. And tomorrow night, uh, 6 o'clock, David, is the second Grand Boulevard. What do you call it? It's a sharet over. Okay. So, we have a at 6:00 we have a Grand Boulevard Cherret stakeholder engagement. Um, number two, um, it's similar to what we did in uh at Gun Highway in 54. We want to reimagine the Elers community and bring it back to what it was back when uh the train came through there and there was a train stop there, the Elers Spur and um it's got the bones for a great little community and um and so we're help doing a planning exercise to help help put the bones put the rules back in place that let it grow and become something wonderful again. So I think that's it. Okay, we are done. Thanks everybody. [Music]