4.7.26 Pasco County Board of County Commissioner Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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I'm going to call back to the meeting of April 7th, 2026. Quiet, please. We're going to proceed with the public hearing starting with ordinances. Item P43. When was it? Clickable announcement was noticed.

P43. We have proof of publication in the business observer March 6th, March 13th, March 20th, and March 27th, 2026.

Amy,

good afternoon. Amy Tol with planning, development, and economic growth. Item P43 is an ordinance amending the Pasco count or ordinance, excuse me, an ordinance amending Pasco County Ordinance number 22-40, contracting and expanding the boundaries of Palmetto Ridge Community Development District, pursuant to chapter 190, Florida statutes, providing for miscellaneous provisions, providing for an effective date. This comes with you comes to you with a recommendation to accept public comment and adopt by roll call vote.

Okay. From the commission have any questions or staff?

Anyone here from the public to speak to P43?

We have no one signed up.

No one online.

All right. Anyone from the audience want to speak to P43? Okay. We'll close public comment to the board.

Approve. Second.

All in favor say roll call vote.

Roll call. District one, Commissioner Oakley.

Hi.

District two, Commissioner Wakeman, not on the DES at this time. District three, Commissioner Stark.

Hi.

District four, Commissioner Joerger.

Hi.

District five, Chairman Mariano.

Hi.

Item P44, we approve.

P44, we have approved for publication in the business observer March 6th, 13th, 20th, and 27th, 2026. Item P44 is an ordinance establishing Palmetto Ridge 2 community development district pursuant to chapter 190 Florida statutes, providing for authority and power of the district, providing for powers and duties of the district, providing for the board of supervisors of the district, providing for the district budget, providing for functions of the district, providing for miscellaneous provisions, providing for an effective date. This comes before you with a recommendation to accept public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote.

Does anyone have questions for the first?

We'll go to public comment. Anyone online?

None online nor signed up in advance.

Anybody in the audience want to speak to item P44 to the board?

Approve.

Second.

Roll call.

District one. Commissioner Oakley.

I.

District two commissioner Wakeman excused. District three, Commissioner Starky.

I.

District four, Commissioner Jagger.

Hi.

District five, Chairman Mariano.

Hi.

And we're going to skip over items P45 and P4 P46 will be heard with the companion items. Um, we'll go to item P47. Do we have proof?

P 47. We have proof of publication of this item in the January 21st, 2026 edition of the Tampa Bay Times for the March 10th, 2026 for county commissioners meeting where it was continued to today. Item P47 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 13 from IL industrial light to calm commercial on approximately 1.51 acres of real property located on the southeast corner of the intersection of State Road 52 and Bellamy Brothers Boulevard and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for severability and an effective date. This comes before you with a recommendation to accept public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote.

Anyone have questions for staff? No. Okay. Um, anyone signed up for this item?

No one signed up. No online.

Okay. Would anyone from the audience like to speak to item P47? Move a couple. Have a motion.

Second.

Have a second.

Roll call. District one, Commissioner Oakley.

Hi.

District two, Commissioner Wakeman, excused. District three, Commissioner Starkley.

I.

District 4, Commissioner Jagger.

Hi.

District five, Chairman Mariana.

Hi.

Item P48, we approve.

P48. We approve the publication of this item in the March 15, 2026 edition of the Tampa Bay Times. Item P48 is an ordinance amending Pasco County ordinance number 24-0808 expanding the boundaries of VA's Way Community Development District pursuant to chapter 190 Florida statutes providing for miscellaneous provisions providing for an effective date. This comes before you with the recommendation to accept public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call.

Anyone have any questions for staff? Anyone signed up for this item? No one signed up. No one online.

Anyone in the audience like to speak to item P48? See no move approval.

Second roll call.

District one commissioner Oakley.

Hi.

District two. Commissioner uh Wakeman excused.

District three, Commissioner Starky.

I.

District four, Commissioner Jagger.

Hi.

District five, Chairman Mariano.

Hi.

Now move for public hearings. County attorney will read the procedures. be happy to, Mr. Chairman. There are two reasonzoning agendas, regular and consent. Staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for the for presentation. The opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the reasonzoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi judicial public hearings. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code for reasonzonings. Thank you, Mr. clerk, would you like to swear in the public?

Thank you, sir. If anyone is anticipating giving testimony in any of these matters, if you would please rise at this time. Again, even if you don't think so, but might, please rise. Raise your right hand. Do you and each of you swear or affirm the testimony you will give in these matters is the truth. So, help you God. If you will, when you approach the podium, please uh give your name and address and confirm that you were sworn. Thank you.

Today we have two public hearing items on the agenda that have that are contining. We'll start with P49.

P49. We have proof of publication uh in the February 18th, 2026 edition of the Temp Times supplemented by a cert certificate of certified mailings and site postings.

P49 is a conditional use request in the name of Villa De Estee. It's a conditional use request uh for a short-term rental in an MF1 multiple family medium density district located in southeast Pasco County approximately 160 ft east of the intersection of Saddle Brook Way and Villa Deaste Court. This comes before you with the recommendation to continue the request to a date uncertain.

They have a motion to continue P49.

So move second. All

in favor say I. I. I

P50. We have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter at this time and uh in the Tampa Bay Times, January 21st, 2026, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings of site postings. That notice or that publication was for the meeting of March 10th, 2026, where it was continued to today. Item P50 is a zoning amendment in the name of SAV Property Holdings LLC, New Horizon's MPD master plan unit development district. It's a resoning request from an R2 lowdensity residential district to an MPD master planned unit development district to allow for the development of 31 single family detached units and associated infrastructure located in central Pasco County a budding south of Wells Road approximately 675 ft west of Wells Road and Boyette Road uh containing approximately 10.40 acres. This item comes before you with a continuence request to May 5th, 2026 at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City.

Motion to continue item P50.

So move.

Second.

All in favor say I.

I. Concentrum P-51.

P-51. Approve publication of the hearing of this item in the Tampa Bay Times, February 18th, 2026, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site posters. P51 is a zoning amendment in the name of Curly and 54 commercial MPU uh Kimberly and Hogue Avis Moradian Hy. I'm sorry if I'm if I'm killing that. Uh Moradian. It's a resoning request from an AR agricultural residential district to MPD master plan unit development district to allow for the development of 58,250 square ft of commercial retail or office and associated infrastructure on approximately 4.94 acres located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Curly Road and County Road 54 in South Central Pasco County. This item comes before you with a recommendation to approve with conditions.

Is anyone here in to speak in opposition of item P51? See no one consent. 52. P52. We have proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times, February 18, 2026, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P-52 is a zoning amendment in the name of Ronald W. Ripple and Donald W. Ripple, uh, Ripple project. Change. It's a change in zoning from an AC agricultural district to an AR5 agricultural residential district located in northeast Pasco County approximately 2,200 ft south of Blandon Road and west of Packing House Road containing approximately 12.72 acres. This item comes before you with a recommendation to approve.

Is there anyone in the audience in opposition to item 252? No one.

No one online. We did have one person signed up. Um,

is Caitlyn going to speak in opposition to the

right?

Are you going to be in opposition?

That would be 56.

4556. And it says elite 52.

Okay. All right.

All right. So you're not So you're not not in opposition P52. All right. Leave that on consent.

Item P53. P53. We have proof of publication February 18th, 2026 edition of the temp time supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P53 is a zoning amendment in the name of RZ7896 Drift 11939 LLC. It's a change in zoning from an AR agricultural residential district and a C2 general commercial district to a C2 general commercial district located in central Pasco County south at the southwest corner of the intersection of Cemetery Road and Water Road containing approximately 5.59 acres. This before you with the recommendation to approve.

Okay. Is there anyone in the audience or line to speak in opposition to item P53?

Seeing no one, we'll leave it on consent. They have a motion.

So move all items on consent.

Second.

Second. All in favor say I.

Any opposed?

Okay. So, now we're going to go back to your items P 45 and 56. P45, we have proof of publication temp times December 17th, 2025 supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P45 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan providing for a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map 2-15 and sheet 12 from AG agricultural and AGR agricultural rural to PD plan development on approximately 156 acres of real property located north of State Road 52, approximately60 miles east of the intersection of State Road 52 and US Highway 41. and a text amendment creating sub area policy flu 7.1.81 Elite 52P PD and a map amendment to the future land use map 2-9 adding sub area map 2-981 elite 52 PD and providing for additional text amendments is necessary for internal consistency providing for repealer subability and an effective date and staff is available for the presentation. Please present.

Sure. Good afternoon. Hi, Miss Planning Development Economic Growth and I will be presenting Elite 52 project. We'll start with the project overview. The applicant is proposing a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use classification from AG agricultural and AGR agricultural rural to PD planned development. and the intent is to allow for the development of a mixeduse project on approximately 156 acres. The proposed development includes one 175,000 square feet of commercial and retail, 120 room hotel, and 108 single family homes. The subject site is located on the north side of State Road 52 and east of US Highway 41. There is a sub area polic policy flu 7.1.81 elite state road 52PD um which is created to establish maximum development potential on the site as well as other provisions that are implemented through the MPU conditions of approval. And speaking of MPUD, there is a companion reszoning petition in the name of RZ7811 Elite State Road 52 MPUD to reszone to MPUD and that will be presented to you right after my presentation.

Uh do you want to take do any questions for the P45 at this point?

Okay, thank you. So this is a map showing the subject site general location. It is located in the north market area and portion of the site as you can see on this map is located within the rural transition area. This is a an aerial showing the exact location of the subject subject site. As I mentioned before, it is north of State Road 52 and east of US 41 with direct frontage along State Road 52. And this slide provides the surrounding contacts of the subject subject site. Immediately west of the subject site, as you can see, is Pilot Country Airport. And further west along US 41 are approved and existing residential developments, including Tel Vera, which consists of 884 single family detach units. To the southwest and south along State Road 52, there are several approved mixed-use developments including Sand Ridge, Tibbitz land at Gowers and Longleaf Grove, which collectively include uh residential units as well as commercial and office entitlements. To the east is the rural transition area. And as you can see to the the northern portions of and eastern portions of the subject site um are located within this um rural transition area and the applicant has agreed to a conservation easement to protect the sensitive lands which include category one wetlands. Overall, the proposed mixeduse development is consistent with the evolving development pattern um that's in this area. Next, we have the transportation network that that's serving the subject site. As brief previously mentioned, the subject site is has frontage along State Road 52 and it is located just east of US 41. State Road 52 is currently improved with um 12 foot multi-use path from US 41 to the Sun Coast. An additional 12oot multi-use path is currently in the design phase along the north side of State Road 52 which directly which is directly adjacent to the subject site. This is the concept plan and I'm not going to go into well the concept plan shows the overall layout of the development. I'm not going to go into too much details about this since Mr. William Vermillion will give more details when he does his presentation. This is a map showing the existing future land use classification as AG and AGR on the subject site. AG is to the north res three There you go. Thank you. Rest three is to the south. Connor New Town is to the south and AGR is to the east. This is another future land use map showing the proposed future land use as PD. And this is a snippet of the proposed sub area policy establishing the maximum development potential of 175,000 square feet of retail, office, and commercial, 120 room hotel, and 108 single family detached. The policy also specifies that non-residential entitlements may not be converted to residential uses and that certain commercial uses are prohibited to ensure compatibility with the surrounding neighborhoods. Final

I I'll have a question. So they're donating the right that we need for State Road 52.

Sorry. Say that again, sir.

They're donating the rightway we need for State Road 52.

Correct.

Yes. Um the conservation land is pretty much where the rural protected areas is.

Correct. Separate transition area. Yes.

That's all down the side.

Any other questions?

Okay.

Um we we do have a stub out right to the property to the east.

I think so.

Oh, I get those all mixed up even after all these years.

Okay. So, now's the time for public comment then. So, does anyone want to speak to item P45 or P56?

We have signed up in advance. Uh, Cheryl Gibble,

I'm applicant presentation.

Would would you like to hear the MPD presentation and then applicant then public comment? So, you hear both of them.

Sure.

That would give all the information you might need.

Okay. So you'll have to open the resoning.

That would be 56.

We've sworn.

Good afternoon. William for million planning development economic growth PD 267811 the comprehensive master plan unit development.

Let the clerk give

proof of publication.

Proof of publication.

That's my fault. I appreciate We approved publication of the hearing of this matter in the December 17th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times supplemented by an affidavit of certified millings and site postings. William Vermillion planning development economic growth companion resoning to master plan unit development. This is a resoning request from AR agricultural residential and AC agricultural district to master plan unit development to allow for the maximum development of 8 single family detached units, 175,000 square feet of commercial retail, 120 hotel rooms on approximately a 156.2 total acres. This is in central Pasco County located approximately 6 milesi east of the intersection of State Road 52 and US 41. The original uh proposal when it went to planning commission originally contemplated 300 platted town homes and over the past few months the applicant has worked with the residents and planning development economic growth to uh to cut that number down to 108 single family detach units instead of the previous contemplated 300 platted town homes. um to be a little bit more compatible with the surrounding land uses and the concerns of the the neighbors at the airport. Here's the location map, the site aerial, the future land use map, and the current zoning. This is the MPD master plan along the southern portion of the subject site. You can see the non-residentidential portions along State Road 52. And as you move northward, you hit the residential portion with the single family detached units as well as the access. Um to the to the east, like was the the aforementioned question, there is a connection to that eastern property. And it highlighted there in orange is the rideway dedication for State Road 52, which is based upon F.60% 60% design plans which were previously spoken to when talking about the alternative transportation network in the area. That 12oot multi-use path is a part of those 60% design plans. And you can see that the orange there isn't exactly uniform in terms of its width from center line. That's because it's actually based on a plan set and the wide rightway width varies between 25 ft and 64 feet along the subject site. Wonderful. This context map on the MPD side, um, it aims to show the relation to the airport ordinance that's adopted and the various layers within the airport ordinance as it pertains to the allowable uses in the area. You can see highlighted there in green, you have the approach surface and the RPZ highlighted there in that black and white checkered. The subject site does not is not encumbered by either the RPZ or the approach area. However, it is within airport influence area which is a large um ellipse around the air around the airport as well as the airport zone here. Uh pursuant to land development code 605, this speaks to the allowable

uses within both the airport influence area and the airport zone. A quick summary of these tables here. The proposed uses within this MPD, the single family detach as well as the commercial retail and the hotel are all allowable pursuant to 605 within both the airport influence area and the airport zone. The only thing worth mentioning is that specifically hotel is demarcated with an AR which um means that they're going to have additional review at site plan for the hotel to make sure that it's in conformance with the surrounding airport. This is the binding conceptual plan. And you'll see here that now with the 108 uh platted single family detached, the the pink there is the larger lots which abut the uh the existing residential neighborhood along the airport um offering larger lots behind the existing residential uses with the smaller lots being shielded by those larger lots. And the what's shown on the plan is the enhanced landscape buffer. Typically, this project would require a type A buffer, which is only 10 ft in width and has shade trees uh one per every 30 feet. In this case, this is a 15 foot wide buffer with the shade trees being 12 feet apart and they must be 12 feet tall at least at planting and with the specific species which is the southern red cedar. the species is already picked out for the residents as well as those evergreen shrubs and the 8 foot tall wall of fence. And if I if I go back one slide, you can see that that enhanced buffer is essentially splitting those purple lots from the existing residential for that enhanced buffer. There are two variations uh from the land development code with this application. The first being from 901 6D11 street design and dedication requirements. The applicant is not proposing an interconnect to the north or to the west. To the west is the existing airport community and to the north is the category 1 wetlands and from land development code 8056 restrictions on postdevelopment wetlands and up upland buffers. This is for parcels under single ownership like the commercial, retail and hotel to maintain their their common space. This comes to you with a recommendation both from the planning commission and the planning and development economic growth department. I'm available for any questions. Okay. Any questions for staff?

Exports were submitted to the clerk's office on this record as well.

Good afternoon. Barbara Wilheight 6327 Graham Boulevard for the applicant. A couple things to note from the discussions. Yes, Chairman Mariano, we are having a statement 52 dedication at no cost. My client could have requested rightaway credits against the rightway portion of mobility fee. Um, but they agreed to convey that at no cost to the county. Yes, portion of the property is in the world transitional area. That is the property where our wetlands are located. Our wetlands are going into a conservation easement. Um, so there'll be no development on those wetlands within the world transitional area. I would not that we out with a density of 300 town homes consistent with what is on the west side of um Pilot Country. There are apartments adjacent to the homes on the west side. There's 40 foot lots. So, we originally came in with a town home project at 5.5 uh dwelling units per net acre. After hearing comments about the project, my client decided to change his project to single family detached homes. That is a density of two um 2 units per developable acre. So we went from 5.5 to two. I would note that the land use to our west is res three. Three units per developable acre is the land use designation. So consistency there. We I think staff did a great job going over our enhanced enhanced buffer. We came in with an enhanced buffer to begin with because we knew of the adjacency with the the existing homes on our west and planning commission said, "Hey, we'd like you to beef that up." And we picked a particular species of tree, the southern red cedar, because the cedars tend to be not just the trunk and then the leafy part of the tree all the way from ground all the way up. They're pretty consistent. We're going to plant those at 12 feet high. Um so those will grow to be a nice buffer and they'll start out as a very nice buffer. Instead of 30 feet on center, they're 12 feet on center. Um with that, we'll like to hear from the questions that might be from the um residents and we'll be back. We have our team available if you have any question. Any questions to the applicant department? Just real quick, this project before you and you were talking about the changes you made. This project came to us about two or three years ago.

This project never got to the board agenda.

Saw it on your agenda because we had it noticed. But when we noticed it, then we had um the community, the Pilot Country community um wanted to talk to the client, Spencer Brass. Um he had meetings with them and then he decided to change his project from town homes to single family homes. But yes, you've seen it before. You just never got to hear it until now. He slowed down and and worked on it some more.

Yeah, I recollect seeing hearing about it, but never to this point. So, thank you.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Okay. Thank you. And time for public comment.

Yes. First signed up.

Hello, my name is Caitlyn Bule. My address is 11 1934 Driver Lane and I have been sworn. So, as I said, my name is Caitlyn Bule. Uh, my husband and I live in pilot country. I'm a flight nurse and a private pilot. My husband is a commercial pilot. I wanted to say thank you to you all for all the work you have done so far to preserve the airport as a Pasco County resource. I understand that this parcel of land won't remain a perfectly good cow pasture forever, and I'm not opposed to having neighbors back there, but there are a few points I would like to bring up. The developments of similar density cited in this proposal on the west side of the airport um are separated from the airport by basically a forest. Um these lots on the east side are right up against my property line. They are 0.165 acres compared to the 1acre lots in Pilot Country and the 5 to 10 acre lots at Pasco Trails on the other side. Uh I am going to have four or five neighbors just on my section of the fence line. The density of the lots combined with the height of the buildings is going to remove any privacy I have in my own backyard. I have asked before that they limit the houses bordering pilot country to one story, but that is apparently an unreasonable request. The attorney last time stated that the houses could be up to three stories with a current height limit of 35 ft, but that she was willing to change the wording to two stories. I request that the wording is changed to two stories before the project is approved. Secondly, the project documentation states that the barrier will be an 8 foot wall or opaque fence. Um, I request that this be specified as a wall. A fence would be blown over on an annual basis and children or pets may find themselves with with sudden access to an active taxi way. This is a predictable safety issue that could be easily avoided. Lastly, I would like to say that the layout of this development illustrates my point that the density will have a negative impact on privacy and property values. The person behind this project has spared his own property from the impact. Uh the project team have said they didn't know where he lived when they designed it. However, this person's name and address are in the list of households notified by mail of the reasonzoning. I do not begrudge the owner of the property anything. I think that most people given the opportunity would do the same. I would ask, however, that this board helps his neighbors in whatever ways are possible to preserve their privacy and their property values. Thank you for listening.

Excuse me. Sure.

Can um I get your address, please?

Yeah. 111 934 Driver Lane.

109.

Sorry. 119 34.

One 934.

Thank you.

Okay. Is there anything I can clarify before?

No, just just field.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you, Mark Bud. Mark

11748 driver lane down the street from Kaitlin. I agree with everything Kaitlyn said.

Can you talk into the microphone?

I agree with everything Caitlyn said. I have the same concerns. I'm not opposed to a development there, but still I think that uh even when it was originally proposed with the the uh 300 plus was just ridiculous, you know, so no way that was going to get through. So they finally reduced it to something a little bit better, but it's still not the density is still high. And uh and I have the concerns about the height looking at I'm I'm right on the border there, too. Actually, I live just south of one of the Mark Twallen that's one of the guys pushing this development. He has the park behind him, so he doesn't have to worry about a wall of threetory uh structures behind him. And I was just told last time I was here that I don't own the view. never intended on owning the view, but I sure don't want this monstrosity behind my house and my privacy violated, my property values go down. So, something reasonable has to be done there. The other thing I want to point out is uh around the airport, everybody thinks that oh, you know, long as you're not coming in on the approach path or the departure path that you're safe. I'm going to bring your attention to a accident that happened down in Boca Raton last year about this time. Good friend of mine actually very experienced pilot, military guy, advanced arobatic guy, airline guy, probably one of the 1% guys that that really knows his stuff. Very experienced flyer. Took off from Boca Raton. Had an issue right after takeoff. part over on the rudder. Could barely keep the thing in the sky. Circle the airport for 17 minutes trying to keep it under control. Was uh he had a very narrow airspeed window that he had to stay within. So he was when if you if you look around that airport, our airport, several miles around his radius, you can look it up on the net. Unfortunately, he ended up losing control, but he was trying to get back to the airport. It was amazing that he didn't hit something on the ground other than another vehicle. Three three people perished there. So, the idea that everything is safe around the airport except for the that entryway and the exit way, you know, you're just fooling yourselves, you know. So, there is that risk. We all understand that risk there. When these other people come in and they sign a little thing saying, "Oh, you can't go after anybody on the airport." They don't know what they're getting into. Even though that risk is very minute, it's still there. Okay? So, they need to understand that. And so, the wording that they need to be looking at needs to let them really know what that risk is. And you guys ought to know what that risk is, too, because I don't think you do. Commissioner, if you wanted to get his address.

Um, yeah. What was your address?

111748 Driver Lane.

1174

8

8174. Thank you.

Anyone else here to speak to this item? To the applicant? Barbara will hide again for the applicant. And yes, we will agree on the record um that the homes will be no more than two stories. I noticed that in my notes when I was getting ready for today that we did talk about that at planning commission. I usually don't miss things coming into the board. Um but yes, two stories are fine. the with I'll say on the record again with regard to the owner of a portion of this property and where the park's located. I'm stating on the record under oath. No idea that the owner had property adjacent to this project and the park was located where it was located as a result of planning and design, not as a result of us being told where to put something. On the west side comparison of the projects on the west, I represented both of those projects. on the west side there are four adjacent homes to retail and apartments and the only thing separating them are parking spaces. So um the notice that we we have to put forth are the notices that are in your airport ordinance that you all adopted and we have to follow. So with that um we would ask for your support of the project.

Any questions for the applicant?

Okay to the board. Move approval. That'll be for P45.

Yes,

we got two items there.

So P45, that'll be the

Should we do them separate or we do them together?

No, you got to do them separately. P5 is roll call.

We have motion. Second

me.

Okay. Uh, District one, Commissioner Oakland.

I.

District two, Commissioner Wakeman

is absent. District three, Commissioner Starky. Hi.

District four, commissioner Jagger.

Hi.

District five. Chairman Mariano.

Commissioner W is excused.

Yes.

Okay. Motion passes. And now item P56. And let's note that there was a change and maybe he'll address the twotory limitation. So they made comments of going down to a twotory limitation.

Yes.

On P56.

Yeah. She put that on record. Yes. Correct.

Okay. Which condition are you amending to do that?

Let us find that one moment. Please. Those dimensional standards are on the face of the MPD plan. So, we'll be amending the MPD plan to include the twotory height limitation on the residential homes. Um, I do have a question

or that the um the airplane hangers, what is the setback from the property line for those? I didn't measure the hangers, but I can say the closest home to to our homes is 130 ft. The average is about 160 ft distance between what the homes will be.

Yeah, it just seems like the hangers are right there in the new people's backyard. So, I mean, hopefully they're I guess our I think it's has to be at least 15 feet for the property line of building. I don't know. I'm just wondering that I see I'm looking at the addresses, especially this last gentleman who spoke 748 the hanger will block his view of any houses back there. So um

plus our buffer and then we have our setback is 15 ft on top of our 15t buffer and then setbacks that they have.

Yeah.

Okay. We'll close the discussion back to the board. Item P 56 at this point.

Um

no. Um I I do there I I have a couple of thoughts and looking at the you know if you zoomed out and looked at the picture I see larger lots to the right kind of larger lots in pilot country. So when I spoke with Barbara this last time I I thought you know for me if I have wished we had some larger lots in here. I don't think it could be to the size of Pilot Country or the other or the other one, but these people have given up a lot of land to for conservation over there. And um and I wouldn't say that at this far along in the process. That's not fair. But just something that I think about that I I'd like to see some of the larger lots around here because um to me that's kind of the development pattern except what we did over there by 41. But I'm going to vote for this. Um I also mentioned that I don't know why it's the new guys responsibility to buffer from the house that's there. Um, you don't you don't own your view. You don't own the property behind you, but we put this requirement on the new guy to block the view of an existing house. It's to me, we do that all the time. I just have always been a little bit uncomfortable. If you don't want to see your neighbor, you can plant a tree in your yard. Uh, but but I I'll be voting for

and I think they part of the reason for the buffer is to accommodate for the lot sizes. But we don't typically buffer residential to res.

No, it was I think goodwill on the before we do it.

So that's an extra step that we're having.

I think back

I just have a comment that um when this first was a town home project, I I wasn't a fan of this project and I think you guys worked really hard and uh got it right this time. So thank you to staff, thank you to uh Barbara and her client as well.

M I think that buffering you see that they're being required to do is because it is an airport and of the setbacks from that very important.

Um I did listen to the planning commission meeting on this and I did hear them say that trees were taken out probably without a permit in the top part of this and I think it's part of the applicants is it still it's part of the applicant's responsibility to mitigate for those trees that were taken out without permission. Is that right?

Barbara will again for the record a prior owner or alleged owner um did a lot of things to this property prior to my client and there's actually two client owners of this property in total. Um they're ultimately responsible because they own the property. So the ordinance relative to trees and when you take trees out um when you go to develop will all apply to them. They my clients did not do those things to the property, but they are responsible for the property, responsible to comply with your ordinance and your new tree ordinance.

So nothing happens to anyone for all the trees that were taken out.

No, it's your tree ordinance has a clawback in it.

A clawback. Okay, that's what I thought. I just told me a conversation. Thank you.

Okay, so item P56 to the board.

Approval.

Second.

Any further discussion? All in favor say I.

I. Any opposed?

Motion passes 40.

Okay. Now we're going to go to the second set item P 40 P46 and then P54.

P58 is the companion.

P58. Sorry. Yeah.

P46. We have proof of publication for the March 10th, 2026 Board of County Commissioners meeting. That publication appeared in the November 26, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times and was supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. It was continued to today.

Good afternoon. Amy Tol, Planning, Development, and Economic Growth. Item P46 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan, providing for a comprehensive plan text amendment to sub area policy clue 7.1.63 North Pasco Resort, and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for a repealer, severability, and an effective date. Uh staff is available for a presentation on this item.

Please present Hi, Miss Elli plan development economic growth. Okay, so the applicant is proposing a comprehensive landex amendment to sub area policy flu 7.1.63 North Pasco RV Resort. And the purpose of this amendment is to change the name of the PD to North Pasco Resort. We're dropping the RV to reduce the RV spaces from 550 to 350 and to allow for the development of a 250 uh four-story resort hotel. The subject site is approximately 131.68 acres in size and it is located along I75 um east of Lake Iola Road and south of Lansen Road. There's a companion substantial modification um reszoning the petition to the existing North Pasco Resort MPV. This is a map showing the general location of the subject site. It is located in the north market area within the east the northeast Pasco rural area. This is a zoomed in aerial of the location of the subject site. Like I mentioned, it is located along I75 interstate east of Lakeyola and south of Bllandon Road. This is a map showing the existing future land use classification as PD on the subject site and it is surrounded by AGR future land use classification um all around. This slide outlines the proposed amendment to the existence of area policy. So the change include reduction of the RV spaces from 550 to 350 and addition of a 250 room fourstory uh resort hotel. The proposed development will remain under one single ownership with no condominium platting and no subdivision into three or more parcels. The policy um or the sub area policy amendment continues to prohibit permanent residency and limit and limits the length of stay to maintain um a transient stay. It also restricts the uses near Muji Lake to passive recreation to preserve the environmental sensit sensitivity of that area. And finally,

the amendment include a minimum setback of 274 feet from the hotel room or from the hotel um resort from Iola Lake Iola um road right ofway. Overall, these changes are intended to balance a reduced RV component with a more tradition traditional resort lodging option while of course maintaining compatibility with the surrounding agricultural land uses. Next, we have the uh binding concept plan showing the overall layout of the development. And again, I'll save the details for William Vermillion, who will be working you through um the details of uh of this concepts plan during his MPU presentation. There you go. The proposed sex amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies. And with that, planning, development, economic growth recommends the board to accept public comment, adopt the proposed comprehensive plan text amendment, and ordinance by roll vote.

Any questions for staff at this point?

Okay. So now the reasoning of 5858, we have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter in the November 26th, 2025 edition of the St. Times supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. That advertisement was for the meeting of January 6th, 2026 where it was continued to March 10th, 2026 where it was continued to today.

Good afternoon. William Million Planning Development Economic Growth the companion master plan unit development to the aforementioned comprehensive plan. This is PDE 267883, the substantial amendment to the North Pasco RV Resort. This this amendment does does a couple different things. The the first is to reduce the RV spaces from the previously approved 550 to a total of 350 RV spaces. to allow a hotel as an allowable use for 250 rooms and to amend the name from North Pasco RV Resort to North Pasco Resort Impunity. This is located in the north market area on the east side of Lake Iola Road on the west side of I75. Here is the location map. the current zoning map reflecting NPD and the existing future land use map reflecting PD. Here is the contextual map. There's one MPD within the onem radius of the subject site which is the Evans County Line Road. 80 MPD which was approved last year for for that 100,000 square feet of commercial and 1.5 million square feet of light industrial with the contingent platted town homes and condominiums um that were stipulated for the time limit of 20 years. This is the MPD master plan and this is the binding concept plan um showing all of the RP spaces as well as the entrance into the project. One of the things that changed at planning commission was before I were to zoom in what what looks like a gate house for the entrance um essentially became an uh an optional sheriff's workstation to where the Pasco County Sheriff's in the area could use that workstation there at the uh the guard house which is it's denoted there as C but it's kind of tough to see. This is the Lake Iola corridor buffer. This was a part of the original plan. Nothing's changing on this, but this really highlights the buffer requirement for the scenic highway that is Lake Iola from this uh this resort MPD. You can see the large burm and landscaping there which is a total of believe that's 48 feet if I'm if I'm reading that correctly. And you see that there's a total of 274 feet from the rightway um to the to the actual hotel that's being enabled in the substantial modification. There is also a binding master landscape plan that was previously approved that's remaining unchanged this here. This here um this indicates all the all the approved landscape. Nothing's changed in this. And if we were to go to the the next slide, my my clicker was taken away. This here is showing all the different species.

You've lost your privileges apparently.

And and if you think we can read that, uh

Oh, so neither you nor I can read this. This is me trying to say none of the master landscaping is changing. This is just indicative of how thought out the landscaping is within this this resort style project. This is all the specific types of trees. not only that exterior buffer from Lake Iola, but also internal between the RV um spaces themselves and internal to the project. This here, and there's the actual pictorial um visual there of the internal buffering that happens in between the spaces with its uh prescribed species of tree and shrub. Next slide. This shows some of the transportation improvements to Lake Iola Road in this case as well as the the bike pedestrian facilities that were previously um agreed to in 2022 along there on that that shoulder as you move north to Bayhead. This project does have um all the applicable site access requirements to include the left and right turn lanes in and out of the project which is depicted here on the intersection exhibit. A couple things to note as well in the area as it pertains to the capital improvement program. The intersection of Lake Iola and Blandon just to the north which is on the south side of that Evans 80 project that I mentioned previously uh was scheduled to begin construction um some intersection improvements there in 2026. Um it's in its design phase currently and it includes the realignment of that intersection as well as lanes and stop control measures um that the county went out and started started doing in 2026. Next slide. Both PTE and the planning commission recommend approval of conditions for this project. I'm here for any further questions.

Questions for staff?

Well, let me ask you a question. Um, with the reduction I think is a good thing, but the one concern here is is anything happening with the stage? I know we addressed it a long time ago. Can you talk about the stage where the music's going to be played, how it's going to be protecting around the properties?

Absolutely. That was one of the nice things that the uh that buffer exhibit that showed the rideway cross-section showed. The first thing it showed was the hotel's 275 ft from the rideway. So really, you're talking about the closest neighbor is even further than that on the other side of Lake Iola. We also have all the applicable sounds and decibel regulations in the conditions of approval for this project. Um in in accordance with the Pasco County Sound Ordinance.

Anyone else have questions?

Just real quick,

just one question. Are they going to do anything with U County Road 41 and where Lake hits or are they going to make any improvements in that connection? I know when we talked about it early on, uh, FDOT did not require any improvements there.

Yes, sir. To to my knowledge, the only improvements that are necessitated by the the impacts to Lake Iola Road there where the turn lanes in and out and those intersection improvements as well as what the county's handling to the north.

All right. Thanks.

To the applicant.

Good afternoon again. Barbara Wilhight 6327 Grand Boulevard for the applicant. I've had the pleasure of representing this project from the beginning when it was approved before. Um staff did an amazing job with their presentation. Really doesn't leave much for me to do. But I can read to you the condition that we wrote with regard to the outdoor entertainment area. We wrote a specific condition at MPV condition 30. It's like G 30G. Any outdoor entertainment area shall be limited to resort guests and restaurant bar patrons only. There should be no stage lighting that creates light spill or glare off site. Project will comply with the code of ordinances chapter 66 division 2 regarding no noise ordinance. So it says who, how, and how loud in that condition that we vote. With that got my team here. public comment is and be glad to uh address anything. Thank you.

Any questions there?

Okay,

so this is a public hearing. So anyone want to speak to items P46 or P58?

We have signed up Marie Peters. Marie, just for you and everyone else. So on this item, you're going to be able to speak for three minutes on 46 and then also 58 or you can combine it together.

I'll just combine them together. Okay.

Primarily on the LA the last later one, the earliest one. Um on that ma'am, your name and address

Peters 300020 Johnston Road, Date City, Florida.

And have you been sworn for the reason?

I have been sworn. Yes. Thank you, ma'am.

Um, if you look at that picture in the bottom left corner, all those pines are gone. The hurricane took them out, had to be removed, which puts that house right there. You can see on the left bottom boundary, completely unprotected from the music and the, you know, that's that's something to consider. It's not that somebody's a quarter mile down the road. They're a matter of feet from that property there. Um also the um the other corner opposite those pines, those those trees are being removed for an electrical substation. So there's no more sound barrier for that event center noise coming down uh the road. The other thing I want to point out is I was very concerned to just see that the hotel residents can stay there for a year. That's not temporary housing. That's real close to to permanent. And nothing was said about the interval between the first year, how long do you have to stay out before you can just move into a different unit and and have permanent living there? Um, that's very concerning because it certainly adds to the permanent traffic that we're going to have in addition to everything else. And if you're looking at 600 units and of those 350 units are RVs, they could, you know, when you're coming off the interstate, it's a very short off-ramp. It's a very short jump over County Road 31 to Lake Iola Road. It's already backing up from morning traffic trying to get to work. And these are going to be cars or trucks pulling RVs. Maybe not all of the 350, but a lot. And that's going to back traffic possibly all the way up the interstate and up the off ramp. I don't think that's been looked at. When you think about when there's an event, a certain number of people are going to get in there three or four days early, but on the day of the event or the day before the event, there's going to be a lot of incoming traffic. How are people on Johnson Road going to get out if if it's backed up? That's part of our concern. And then also, I don't know if planning is aware of it, um, just north of This parcel is a severely under size culvert linking the two legs Moody to middle. Just in the last year, the owners of those people on the end of each culvert has opened it up and taken out trees and and brush and everything. And you can stand it on Lake Ayola and you can see both lakes. So whatever they dump in the lake is going over the to the other lake. And if there's a heavy rain year and that lake's already full, uh you're going to have Lake Iola Road going underwater. Nobody's I've not I've been to almost every meeting on this place and nobody has said anything about that little culvert under Lake Iola Road connecting the two lakes which would then prevent us from getting out unless we go all the way down through San to get out.

So with that, I would just uh just wish you'd do some do something about the permanent semi-permanent 250 people who could live in the hotel. I think that's that's not right for our area. No hotel needs to be a mile and a half off the interstate. It's crazy. Thank you very much. Thank you Nancy. Heywood second. All in favor say I.

I.

Nancy Hwood 3411. A nice place. How are y'all today? Um

Nancy, just acknowledge you were sworn.

Yes, sir. So, in the last episode of the RV Far, no one had heard of the entertainment area, but brought it up. Um The paper you just received has what Miss Will Height said, um, notes from the application, and that's what I'm handing out to you. We actually, she and I did actually have a uh talk about this um at the neighborhood meeting and it makes me wonder about what stakeholders tell you sometimes and what they don't about things. Um I think that y'all reserve need to have a lot of respect because y'all deserve it. I know that you all do a lot above and beyond. So, uh, so we'll go on. I'm still asking that the county address the issue of the entertainment area. Does the still northeast protected area and outdoor entertainment will have a direct impact on the area?

That's for six months of the year. I mean, they've got to entertain them for six months. And if you add together the hotel and the RV park and not the rest of the places they can stay and the lodges and everything else, you could have over a thousand people there every day for whatever entertainment they're planning there. And that's what concerns me. It doesn't belong in the northeast area plan. You've got one other big project almost a mile away and that everything else is rural around there. If you want to allow the entertainment, please put it inside or make it unamplified. Either of those conditions would work out and help keep noise. If you're thinking about the noise ordinance for the county, that doesn't work real well in the northeast area. That was addresses cities, it addresses the rest of the county. I would I would certainly like it if you all would finally put together a noise ordinance in the northeast rural area that takes into account that we are rural. So also when Miss Hyatt was going over things, I saw them say that only things allowed would be passive recreation. If you consider this recreation, it's not going to be a passive recreation use if you've got a thousand units of people there and all those units that they're staying in. My consideration for this is it needs a dab of work and I'm hoping y'all will make sure that we don't have noise going outside this area. Thank you,

Kim. Hi, my name is Kim Wit. I've been sworn in. My address is 17030 Palamino Lake Drive. I live off of Johnston Road right down from the RV park. The original plan for the RV did not include the 250 room hotel and then an entertainment area. The amount of water that would be pulled from the aquafer will be 7 79.252 per room. That is about 20,000 gallons if all of them were occupied. Each RV consumes between 50 to 100 gallons per water per day depending on the occupancy. And the p the Pasco County is forcing us to have water restrictions. States modified phase three extreme water shortage. Yet you guys allow the continued large developments, the lagoons, pools, etc. Massive water consumption. And again, I'm limited on what I can do on my property. Thank you.

That's the last person signed up in advance.

I see someone approaching.

You don't see to speak to this. Please come forward.

That's okay.

Your name and address for the record. And were you sworn?

I was not sworn.

Okay. Good. Go ahead. And your name and address?

Brenda Scarboro, 17826 Palamino Lake Drive, Date City. Is there anyone else may speak that it didn't get sworn?

If you were you sworn, sir.

Okay.

Do you swear affirm that the testimony you will give in this matter is the truth? So have you got?

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

Okay. We all came to a meeting in 2020 and reluctantly we had to accept that an RV park was going to be part of our community, but we were told it was good for our community. We were then told that the RV park was now going to be called a North Resort, Pasco Resort and would have 250 hotel rooms and 350 RV spaces as well. How can you assume that a hotel in a rural community on a two-lane road is not to bring chaos to our norththeast rural overlay? At 85% occupancy just in the hotel, that would be 200 cars a day of people staying one night, doubtfully, but possibly two nights. The developer has the right to answer as he has perfect this is our community. But who is going to stay in these rooms? We're 50 miles from Disney World, SeaWorld, and Universal. 27 miles from Bush Gardens. No one is coming just to see our charming and wonderful date city. The people using this hotel will be traveling north or south and want a quick stock stop off at the interstate. The average hotel room, I'm going back to her water usage, is 150 gallons of water per night. Obviously, his goal is to be 100% occupancy. But even at 85% occupancy, that's 212 rooms per night. That's 32,000 gallons per day, 222,000 gallons per week, and 11 million gallons used in one year. How much water can you continue to take from our community and from residents who are dependent on their wells? By using 11 million gallons a year on visitors passing through, not people living there. RVs and people in campers are used to living their limiting their water. Hotel users are not. I travel a lot and I know that I am truly not worried about how long my shower is and how many times I flush the toilet. And when I leave, more water is used to clean and wash linens. RV hookup RVs hook up with a water hose and bring their own linens. It is obvious that the developer of this project has realized that the income produced from just an RV park doesn't match his needs. So, he is wanting to build a hotel to make up the difference and make this now a resort, not a familyfriendly RV park. We ask that you not approve a hotel and stick to the original plan that was approved as an RV park for your residents, not just for a developer. Thank you.

Is there anyone else please can we have this gentleman? Otherwise, we'll post public comment from inside here. Hey, good afternoon. My name is Brent Holder. My address is 17722 Palamino Lake Drive and I have been sworn. You know, I came here today. I wasn't planning on speaking. I just came to listen. And when I was listening, several things were said that really struck me as being on. We we've heard mention numerous times in this discussion about the Northeast Pasco overlay and the the spirit of the Northeast Pasco overlay um can be boiled down into one term and that's rural. Um, and if you think about how this resort in a rural area is compatible, um, the two just don't go together. Uh, you are in a community that has, uh, two-lane roads. Um, two-lane roads in, two-lane roads out. Everything around is two-lane roads. and the amount of people uh the amount of vehicles that this is going to bring to the area um definitely is is not compatible. You know, when this uh when this project started um and and we did not have the hotel in it, um it was I I have not talked to anybody and I've talked to quite a few people, any residents in the area, any neighbors who are for this project. Um it it seems to me there's obviously one group for the project and that would be the owners or the people that are going to benefit and that is not the residents of this area. Um, you know, it's uh it's funny. I I heard uh speaking earlier that um it was mentioned that the fourstory hotel um was going to be they they discussed compatibility with the surrounding rural area. Think about the ludicr statement. a fourstory resort hotel in a rural area. Is that compatible? I don't think it is. Um and we we heard about the buffer area, a buffer for a fourstory resort hotel, trees, a bt, it doesn't work. I implore the the uh commission here to to listen and to back the residents of this area. Thank you very much.

Excuse me. Can I get your address again?

Sir,

can I have your address again?

Sure. 17722 Alamino Lake.

Alino Lake. Thank you.

Okay. Seeing no one else, we're going to close public comment in here. Is there anyone online?

No, sir.

Okay. To the applicant. Commissioners, this is a resort. It was always going to be a resort. It's actually under construction as we speak. Um, we're just making a modification to reduce some RV spaces and add hotel rooms. Same people just staying in different place. Some people like to stay in their RV like myself. And I'm those who, by the way, I have an RV. Um, and all the other who's that I see when I'm at the RV resorts are pretty good who's um, we went through compatibility. We actually had the author of the Northeast Pasco Rural Area come to you when this resort was approved and tell you how it was compatible with the Northeast rural area. The person who wrote it, the um, the staff did make up the statement recurring occupancy. There can be no permanent occupancy in our hotel rooms, in our RV spaces, our yurts, or our airirstreams. We follow, the county follows Florida statutes to determine what's permanent occupancy and what's transient. And it's you can't have in a 12-month period. You cannot have res you cannot have occupancy more than six months. And you have to have this is all state this is all state driven. You have to give the guest register as required by Florida statutes 509.101. 101. The end of this stay, the RV shall be removed um or stored in any on-site storage facility. The um developer of shall maintain those guest registers, RV license plate numbers. I could go on and on and on and it's like almost a page of how that all works. I can tell you every detail about this resort has been looked at and spelled out. There's there's long conditions that has to do with each one of these things. We um traffic was looked at when we we had the resort approved. This project was always going to be resort and there was always going to be music. There was always going to be outdoor music by the pool just like there's going to be currently. Again, all we did was take people were going to come in RVs. We added another way for them to enjoy the resort hotel rooms as opposed to the RV or the resort cottage. Passive recreation that staff mentioned was our limitation that we put on anything down by Moody Lake. You'll see on the binding concept plan how as we get towards the lake, the development drops off and all we can do is passive recreation. There's limitations on kind of you can't have any motorized boats. Whole bunch of limitations in regard to Moody Lake. They're already in the current approval. The the burm and the trees on the Lake Iola scenic quarter buffer are substantial. We were thoughtful and way replaced the hotel. It's 274 feet back um from the Lake Iola right ofway. I think I hit each one of Oh, I would say about the sheriff's substate the sheriff's area. I did meet a nice gentleman at the neighborhood meeting and he said, you know, Mrs. Well, I we

want something that will be relate to our community and I have an idea. Like, okay, you all know me. I love ideas. So, he said, would you would your client go talk to the sheriff's department and see if if you put an area with a bathroom in a dedicated area within your resort, where's the front of your resort? Would they come and potentially stop there and work so we'd have more police presence in our community? I can't make them come, but we're going to build the place that they can come. And that was came from a resident at the neighborhood meeting that came up with that. We followed through and committed to it. Thank you very much.

Question,

Mr. Sty for you.

Um,

yeah,

Mr. Ster. First,

I have um two questions. I'm not sure I ever heard you say on-site storage before. So, where is that and what is that?

Like all RV play RV resorts, there are times when you're not ready to take your RV out and you will store it. There's a storage on site.

Um, yeah.

Can you take that off?

Trailers and like

Yeah. Where is the on-site storage?

The area where we could do on-site storage is in that the corner. Got to go back to the It's down here in the in the bottom corner. People bring golf carts and they need trailers.

Where? So, where And where is that?

In the bottom.

Is there Can she have a pointer?

It's the It goes to a V. Goes to a V. You see the V the bottom there? That's where you would do any storage.

So is that that's like a field where will it look like the one on Decubulus.

We have a we have a buffer on both sides of that. There's a corridor buffer on the west and then the buffer to 75. So it's a buffered area.

So what are those what are those little uh gray buildings there?

I You know, I see pickle ball courts and an open area and trees is what I see.

No, there's like there's bu one, two, three, four, five

right down on I75. And

there's six there's six buildings or something

down in the corner.

Maybe if you use the letters that are closest

active.

It's what?

It's labeled active recreation. No, that's where the pickle ball courts are. I'm talking about right there. What are those?

No.

Something built cuz that

Okay. Um I do I can't What do you think that is? I think they told me

part of our on-site sewage treatment.

Yeah, I was thinking they told me that something on that before. So, are you saying in that field is where you're going to store RVs?

We could where we could. And it's not just RVs. There's also trailers. People bring their golf carts to a place like this and they have no place to put their trailer. Temporarily temporary store. This is not for

No, I you cannot come here and rent this. Not this isn't for the month. This is just for guests and

right but I do have a concern of the aesthetics of that next to Lake Iola. So those can look very ugly. Look at the one on

they're not next to Lake.

So

and it's it's that same buffer that we went over is the same buffer to

Okay. So it's how how big is the buffer?

I I don't I don't recall ever seeing that as

it's currently approved. Nothing new. Um,

so it's just going to be on grass that you're going to store them on grass.

Yes. All the all the storage places and all the RV resorts that I go to, that's how they're stored. Yes. And again, it's not for the public. It's just for guests.

Okay.

Pay for that storage and don't leave your things there. I want I want to be sure that that is screened from the road because I don't think that'll look very nice.

Yes. So, the border buffer is 48 uh feet wide. Quarter tree buffer. Um yeah. Um

okay. My my other question is the hotel stays. We heard someone say you could stay there for a year. No, I just I read that condition.

Yeah, I want to go over that one more time.

Permanent occupancy by state law, permanent occupancy is more than six months.

So, someone can stay in the hotel for six months.

Somebody can stay in any hotel for six months. Yeah, people don't.

Wow, I did not know that.

That's state law. That's the difference between and it's and the state tracks that because it's a different tourist tax. If you're over six months, then you don't pay the tourist tax. So, the state has all these registers. They make sure that nobody's staying. So, everybody that's there is paying the tourist tax. And that's why the state tracks it so carefully.

Um,

you know, I know my brother just finished uh driving for for the last few years. He's been gone seven months of the year in his RV and there were times when I wanted to go visit him, especially when he was in Alaska. Sadly, my work got in the way. But, um, when he was in really cool places and I was going to fly in, there was no place for me to stay because they conveniently didn't provide for any of us to stay in their RV with them. And so I would have to go get a hotel, which means I'd have to go get a car and drive very far away from where he was camping. So it was it was a real problem. I think it's convenient to have a hotel u you know some of these may be snowbirds are come down who come down and they want to have family visit them and now they can stay instead of when I did that with my parents my kids had to camp outside in a tent in Maine um which they love but so um okay well those are my comments

Mr. real quick. I I just want to clear up the hotel for you a little bit. It's an ex extended living hotel. So, a person that's traveling from up north down south and we have it around Dade City, around Luchi, down in Zephr Hills. We have people come here and stay six months out of the year and we know when they leave because our traffic gets better, but when they come down, it's very busy at that time. This extend this hotel is set up for extended living. There's a I don't know what you call it half kitchen or whatever in those rooms to where they can stay and not have to go out to eat or whatever. There's also going to be places to eat in this around that hotel area in that commercial area there. And also there's one or two restaurants, you know, in that. But then they also have a water feature with the a lazy river and things of that nature in in and around that area also.

But uh and they have wells for their water. Um I didn't understand and maybe Barbara can tell me. I don't know what cover they're talking about that would raise the water in one place and another. Is that from Middle Lake

to Moody Lake or Moody Lake and Moody? You have an east and west side of Moody Lake. They said it was under Lake. She said it was under Lake Isle Road, but

it was under what?

My engineer is saying he doesn't know about said Culver.

Is it the cover? Is it covered over near Bayhead Road?

Just north of Bayhead that runs from Middle Lake to uh Moody Lake. Okay. Yeah. Okay, I got you. Yeah. Hang on.

Sure.

Go ahead.

Afternoon everyone. Joe Simino with Engineering 12363 Hampton Park Boulevard, Tampa, Florida 33624. I believe we're talking about a culvert that connects Moody Lake to Middle Lake.

Um it sounds like it's been reamed out. That's usually a good thing that they're cleaning out culverts. Um but either way, it's irrelevant to our project. We were permitted back in October 2024 through both Swift Mud and Pasco for our master stormwater uh master stormwater development. Uh that's already been constructed. We're going to be moving on to a Swift Mud transfer to operation, which basically is a fancy word for project clearance because the storm water is all complete and it was permitted to attenuate or hold back water to the regulated amount that we're discharging into the lake. So, we've met all regulatory criteria for what we're sending downstream, both from a rate and a water quality treatment standpoint, but it's good to hear if they are cleaning out covers downstream,

right? Anything else? Okay. Um, also, this property is in tiers. So, you you find it the tier next down next to Lake is low. Then you got a middle tier and then you got upper tier where each tier have different people on it, but you can see over the next tier going out across the interstate and and the lake down there. I can only imagine how pretty the sights are out of out of that hotel if you're looking because all this property lays on the Brooksville Ridge and uh it's very high rolling hills and beautiful country out there. I can attest. Uh I've I've done many many projects over the years in Pasco and this is probably the it's definitely the only project I have ever done this on and will probably be the only project in Florida I ever do this again. And we actually have to have switchback roadways.

Yeah.

To get a car down the road or to get a car down the hill. So, it's a pretty impressive Yeah. And you'll you'll find that RVs don't travel like they don't all line up and come to the RV park that one day

because if they did you wouldn't be able to get in and out but they actually go in their own timing and move and and it's not a crowd of people that that's coming. If you have a amusement thing going on or some musical or something going there, you'll find local people coming there, not necessarily those RVers will be coming. Th those people will already be there. But um this is very nice project, but you find people all over the north coming to a RV resort and this one here allows for extended living because not everybody has that uh you know recreation vehicle that they travel in. So

Mr. Ser,

um when I look at my map here, Mr. Oakley,

yeah,

I know this was in your family some a family member or something at one point. I don't see belong to my father at one point.

So, was it a citrus?

Citrus when we had citrus there.

Yeah. And um and and now and thank you to the applicant. There's going to be a lot more trees on there than there was before.

Oh, he's going to put more trees there.

And then when I look across the street now, I see where you see in this map an old citrus I guess that was an old citrus farm there. It looks like they have a um agurism um project going. Let me see. I just saw where it was called. It's like a a little farm. Let's see. Here it is. Where'd it go? Uh well, it's a place where you can go. They have a a maze and a sunflower field. Um Dade City Farms. So, I think this will help that small business.

Oh, yeah. And and then that right across from where that hotel's going. So this is across from where the hotel's going to be uh where those orange trees were is Day City Farms. And then just below that is an LLC called Quality Stump Removal. That's what I'm seeing here on the map at the corner of Johnston and Lake Iola. And there's a bunch of commercial cars in there. So, um, seems like that I I I'm I'm in support of the project and I I think it'll be a good addition to the community.

I think this be a very nice it'd be a a plus to the area and and it's a broader range of people coming there than just people around there. They're going people that probably have gone to Zephrios all their life might end up here at times. So, I've got a question. I want to put a map. We heard about the noise and I think it's a reasonable concern and I will say that I've had several times trying to get someone from the sheriff's office out to get a code enforcement on on a noise but it's almost impossible. Some

we still have a noise ordinance in in

Let me finish please.

Yeah. So my concern is that if we do get some loud noise to get someone out there to go check it, protect it. I think the burden should be on the hotel operator here with doing the music. What I did was and I'm subject to letting the staff kind of figure out work with work with the applicant and the neighbors, but my thing is I put a series of blue dots around the map that's out there. And I don't even know if that's the appropriate spot, but I think there should be some type of noise detection for the decibb on our around the area so when the music's playing that they can show what's going on out there.

Yeah, we're not going to agree with that. That's totally unreasonable. I mean, when I was up here with Saddlebrook, nobody asked me for a noise ordinance. Nobody asked me for a noise meter. They're a resort just like this is. And that's just not reasonable to to have somebody that's going to have music and connect with the that that's our new standard is now we're going to have to, you know, have nobody's monitoring. That's a very expensive system to put together.

I have a I want to continue to um Well, you may feel that way, but I want to I'll listen to what staff maybe has to say and maybe the other board members as well. But if they're worried about the concerts, and I know it's difficult to get a sheriff's deputy out there, especially in a rural area like this, we are in the northeast rural area. I don't think it's too Maybe staff can comment to it a little bit because I know we've never asked for it before, but we have had this type of situation before either. So maybe staff.

Well, with all due respect, we did Saddle Brook and there were homes right next door.

Saddlebrook was a resort built in and everything else came around it with saddle working at the home and all that coming in. This is coming in after the fact. These people have been established.

The applicant's not agreeable. So

it's okay. Uh, so maybe staff could talk to us.

Can I can I have a So I I also am an RER and a camper. And normally when they're talking about live music, it's it's by the pool or it's outside a restaurant or something. It would be no different than

uh it's not like a Sims Park where it's a fullon concert.

It's just it's live music. That's all.

And and that's I think there's a difference between having amphitheater where somebody's going to jam out to just live music.

Let me bring it up again back up.

And I' I've camped all over the country.

So, if it's not to be quiet music, what is the music setup going to be exactly?

What exactly is my music going to be?

Yeah. Like, how's it going to be set up? Is it be an amphitheater? Is it going to be just a little stage where you get a one or two band plays out there? Is it going to be seventh band. What's What's going to go on?

I don't have the details of how many people are going to be in our bands. I tried to write it to be clear that it can't be open to the public because I figured that's where events come from. I tried to write it and I purposely wrote it that way so that we're not talking about events. Even though everybody else keeps talking about events, we're not talking about events. So that's why I added that condition. So it is it is what happens at resorts. Music that's played at resorts outside. That's the type of entertainment that we're talking about.

All right, let me let me ask staff a question. I want to find out who's familiar with the ordinance uh enforcement and what how could we what do they think would happen if we did get a complaint from somebody?

Mr. Allen, I don't know. Do we have anyone from code available speak on that? not and I believe we have a is it I don't want to speak off hand there there is a decel rating and there is a time period

10 p.m. to I think

could be 6 or 7 a.m. where you have to keep decibb below a certain level are you suggesting equipment that would monitor that in real time and then report back to amount to like a red light camera I guess for sound

and again I don't know the ities of having it. So having a noise device to go out there go

I mean if we report out we we do have decimal decibel meters where our code compliance officers can measure you know what the sound is at a certain certain point. Thank you David provide some additional clarification Mr. Uh good good afternoon chair and board members. Um our noise um component of the ordinance is sometimes challenging to enforce because we have to have a sustained level of decibel exceedence and that has to be measured at the property line. And so in this particular case it would have to be on the border or the edge of the project itself. And then again, we would have to have a certain duration of time where that noise exceeded would would be above the decibel level before we'd be able to issue a citation. Right. So, if you're going to look at trying to do that along I75, be difficult. I don't know if there's I see maybe one maybe two.

What's that sound from there?

You have you have to silence that phone.

So, again, so when I look at if you're going to go monitor that now, you've got to have someone come in the resort, go on the edge or go on the rightway outside the property to go monitor. I just find it a difficult thing. So, and I don't want it to takes what does it take to actually can is there such thing as an automated decelerator that can be installed?

I don't know personally if there is. Um I I do know though just kind of looking at the layout here with with it being directly adjacent to Interstate 75 is that background noise is corrected to as well. So the the decel readings will have to exceed the noise that you would have typically just with the traffic on the roadway.

Okay. So now from kind of what I did on the map on the other side, you've got one house that's across from close to the entryway.

Another for the further

that's the stump removal company.

Stump grinding.

That's the stump removal company.

So the sun house

that commercial cars house. What about further up

that one where all the citrus trees are? That's the

dates. There's only a few homes right there on Lake Oliver Road near the road near this project. I'm sure that the big trees or the pines and all that got blown down during the storms and all. I'm sure that the owner putting this in would want to put some trees back up for a buffer himself. So, I think that come back. There was actually a tree on that side where the lady was talking about earlier. There was a tree there, a pine tree that I could I could not touch one of my workers hands reaching all the way around it. That was a huge tree. I don't know if it's still there or not, but that was a historical pine tree because it wasn't oak tree. It was a pine tree and it was huge and it was right in that area. I remember that from years ago. But there's not a lot of homes real close on Lake O. There's some clo there, but I bet there's not over seven or eight that would be close close to this property.

Now, there could be because they got vacant land over there, right? So, Mr. I'm going to say to you that hopefully this doesn't become an issue. If it does, we'll need a team to go out there at certain points there to monitor. We do have an in place to

Thank you. Any other questions?

So for items number 146, we'll go first. That'll be the land use. Motion

move approval.

Second.

Roll call vote.

District one. Commissioner Oakley.

I. District two, Commissioner Wakeman. Uh, excused. District three, Commissioner Starky.

Hi.

District four, Commissioner Jerger.

Hi.

District five, Chairman Marion.

I go to item P58. Is it the reasoning?

Move approval. Second.

All in favor say I.

I. Any opposed? Motion passes 40. Go to item P55.

P5 P54 first.

P54. We have proof of publication in the February 18th, 2026 edition of the temp time supplemented by an affl. All right. Amy Tol, planning, development, and economic growth. Item P54 is a development agreement in the name of Kenton DA Connected City GPI Tampa LLC. It's a development agreement for the Kenton MPU to design, permit, and construct roadway improvements in exchange for transportation development fee credits located in central Pasco County. There is a presentation for you uh Good afternoon. William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Got the the clicker back. Barbara was worthy of the clicker for the pointer. So, I guess I can have this back. This is PD260227. This is the Kenton development agreement. Uh a little bit before we get started. The next item is the Arley development agreement followed by the Kinton commercial MPD. While all three are not separate are not represented by the same applicant, they do work in tandem whenever I talk about the roadway infrastructure that's being built within this portion of connected city as it relates from overpass moving north. Here's a location map within the county and the location map within connected city in the community hub along existing uh Kinton Road is a dirt road. This is the segment of road for this particular MPU that's obligated to the Kinton MPD for construction. Um you can see to the south is Elum Road. There's the gap. And then highlighted in red is this applicable se segment of Kinton MPUD which moves north uh to Tendle Road. That little gap that you see between the southernmost tip of the red improvements and Elum Road is the is the following DA that you'll hear. Um the ARway DA is that that missing segment there on this current map.

Little question for you just before you go further. I see Mckendry's not too far away from there. Will that connection that's on that's highlighted in the light color in the top part will that connect to Tindle Road and then make its way to Mckendry or will it do a connection?

Eventually eventually Mckendry and Tindle they intersect uh in the double branch MPD when Mckendry is fully built from its current terminus as it was constructed by John's Hopkins. as it moves north into double branch. That's where you have several east west roads that connect Tendle Road, Mckendry, and Kenton as they both parallel move northward to state road 52.

So in the northernmost part of the map, is there a road existing now that's that's Tindle that goes all the way down and connects out to Mckendry? Now,

uh, currently there is an alignment of Tindle Road. That red is showing the new alignment of Tindle Road. There is existing Tindle Road currently today, but that east west little piece uh that's red, that'll that's the new tindle alignment.

So that's the new tindle alignment. When is that going to be connected to go over or in the interim? Does it connect right now down? Does it move down over and cross?

It it doesn't now. What needs to happen for that piece? That piece was previously um given to the Tall Timbers MPU. Tall Timbers was going to be constructing that next roadway infrastructure. Um, so we need that little development piece in between the bus depot and that

alignment of Tindle to come in for that little last piece.

This is the the modified cross-section for Kenton Road. The important thing here is the the 12 foot multi-use paths being constructed on either side of the road. And as a as a catchall, you you'll hear me say this several times throughout today's meeting. This is one of three different projects that we have as a backs stop for building the missing kittent segment as which connects elim to overpass. So this development agreement, the kittent da the next DA, the arily also has this as well as the following impunity. So we have three different back stops in order to get this last segment of road built um from Elum to overpass. This comes to you with the recommendation of approval from planning commission planning development economic growth. I'm available for any questions.

Okay. Anyone have any questions about this?

I believe Mr. Ro I believe um the new Canton Road is going to help some flooding of the of that road as it was before. There was a lot of flooding and I think that Kenton coming through is going to help with some of that area that comes out of uh King Lake and goes goes to the west.

Right. They're having

some folks there have had some real issues right there with flooding.

Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah.

All right. So, I hear the applicant maybe coming forward because we are going to have both these items before we vote. You want to do this one now,

sir?

We're going to have both items. Do you want to do this one? Finish with 54 as well.

Yeah.

Then we're going to bring back 57 before we vote on this one.

Well, I want to if we can stay in order, that's great for me because they're separate applications

and then we're going to we want both of them heard together. So, if you want to talk about 54, we'll talk about

Yeah, I I got to do them one at a time just because they're they're a little bit different deals. So, Clark Hobby Hobby and Hobby PA 1090 Frush Street, Tampa, Florida have been sworn. Uh this project uh is the northernmost of my two projects um and runs uh for the segment picks up in the apply MPUD where they stop and it goes up to the Tindle segment and uh the credits that we're getting in this development agreement are consistent with the comprehensive plan, the financial plan for connected city and are already called out to be done um and allowed in the MPU that was approved I think about three years ago. So, it's it's we're really the only purpose of this DA is to create the construction requirements that the county has in any DA uh to make sure we do what we need to to do on the construction uh side to get the credits themselves. So, um I'm happy to answer any questions you have. We have met with the neighbors a number of times. Um, we've tried to work through any drainage concerns they may have. And we've also, just so the commission's aware, you may recall when the MPU came through, the way the roadway is designed going north, it's all on our property. And the reason we did that was to a not cut off the neighbors who were using the existing dirt road to the east of us as you get up by King Lake in the lots you can see on the northern part. But then also it created a bigger setback for our neighbors from where our development activity is. And my recollection is that the closest house is like 275 ft away from where the road's going to be built. So it's a good long ways.

Any questions for the applicants? Okay.

I um just what what is the what is the profile of the road? I don't think I have sorry.

Yeah, they can go back. Will can take you through it. And and by the way, on this one, Joe Simino is my engineer on this one. He can go through that with you if you have any technical questions. There you go. But Commissioner, I think I may be able to answer your question. So, this had originally in the uh plans for connected city, it had uh uh bike lanes, you know, on the road next to the road. And so staff asked us starting about a year ago to take those out and to upsize the the multi-use paths on either side. And so we ended up with two 12oot multi-use pass and got rid of the bike lanes.

Okay. And that 22 feet, what is that on either side? I I I never understood why we why we preserve so much.

I don't know. Either gonna have to have

You're gonna have to like staff are showing if we get I don't I don't know if it's clear areas or Joe, do you want to

I know I know it was done before all y'all were here, but the 22 feet between the road and the trail. Um

I couldn't I I don't have it in front of me, so I couldn't tell.

I mean, it's going to be beautiful, but you wouldn't call that necessarily really walkable. So

two lane

I assume that's probably for utilities.

We do have to keep in mind I think you know

I don't think that doesn't mean the trail can't meander

the trail would be best to meander. I I I think I think shade trees you may be also looking at we're you know we're building two initially but allowing for the transition to four and that may be some of the area that you're looking

No there's 11 foot 11T 11T 11 foot

or is that got that

I think I think that's just brass on either side it's just the very very wide corridors

which lends to high speed unless we've got some traffic calming going on and it's you got to run across You got to run across that road quick.

Yeah, understood. Well, if if you all ever decide to change the the cross-section to make them smaller in general throughout connected city, I don't think we have a problem with it, but it it's the general width in the comp plan. And so that's what we're following.

Is this going all the way from Elim to

It's going from Elim that goes all the way up. We'll goend Kendall.

Okay. We're already having issues with utility providers playing nicely in our rights of way. I don't know that we really want to narrow the

Yeah, we may not want to take it any smaller, but that was that area.

That's the width that's in the right there.

There's a 10-ft utility easement besides the 22 foot.

Okay.

On the outsides of the trails. I'm just saying it's it's

we're just playing that the cars were dealt with. in the comp right now.

I've seen roads like this in Texas.

Yeah. Separate complnt.

Okay. All right.

When they did cattle drives down the road.

All right. So, now we'll hear a presentation on 57.

Oh, where are we?

Did we take public?

No, I didn't think so.

Public comment first. All right. So, P54 public comments

and actually the uh if you can put the PowerPoint up that'd be great. It's really for 55. I didn't realize this was in the northern portion of it. Michael uh 9152 Kentland Road. Wanted to speak on 55, but it's going to apply to this. As far as the 22 foot there residents uh were um told that this will be How do we go forward?

Thank you. Uh residents were told that this is going to eventually be the four lanes, the two lanes in each direction and there was space being left there so that it could easily be expanded. This is going to be the main thoroughare between Eper and Marada. There's going to be a significant amount. There we go. All right. So, this is going to be the thoroughare between Epson and Marada between the two lagoons. So, it's going to be more than just the approved developments appreal and then Kenton. Yeah. Okay.

This is actually the tra part of the traffic study from P-57. So, this is the most current traffic study and I wanted to point it out for 55, but it's going to apply to this with the existing projects are already approved peak hours. There's going to be 1355 cars per hour traveling this road. In the PM, there's going to be almost 1,500 cars traveling this road. So, the residents, you can't build this paved road fast enough for safety reasons. However, we we would really like to encourage you to get right on the board or right out of the gates, making this two lanes of travel in each direction because there's going to be a tremendous amount of vehicle flow. There's no busing in here. These new developments, it's not just getting to work. It's going to be getting your kids to school because all the schools were moved out to Curly Road, but it's within the two miles. So, it's too far to take golf carts and alternative transportation to get the kids to school. Everybody's in a vehicle in and out continuously. With this number of cars, if it's a two-lane road, cars are going to stack up quickly at those intersections. The other thing from the resident side is if the existing Kenton Road gets renamed, we'd like to have some input on that if it if it changes from Kenton Road. But as far as the road goes, this there's no objection from the current residents because this is going to make everything a lot safer. We'd love to see four lanes, but other than that, it's all safety concerns and the paths for the current residents and the future residents is going to make a a huge improvement for the safety of the current and the future residents.

Mr. Proer, just for the record, would you acknowledge that you were sworn? I was Yes, sir.

Any public comment to this item?

Anyone online?

No one online.

Okay. All right. Go to the next item.

5757. Right.

We have proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times January 21st, 2026. um supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings for the board of county commissioner meeting of March 10th where it was continued to today. Uh Amy Tol planning development and economic growth P57 is a zoning amendment in the name of Kenton Road commercial MPD Kenton Road commercial LLC. It's a resoning request from AC Agricultural to MPD master plan unit development district to allow for the development of 110,000 square feet of non-residential entitlements and 120 room hotel and associated infrastructure uh located in northeast Pasco County at the northwest corner of the intersection of Kenton Road and Elim Road in the community hub special planning area connected city on approximately 9.43 acres and staff's available for Any questions?

Any questions for staff?

Did you all seems odd that it's a reasonzoning matter and you haven't acted on those two development agreements yet or were you one of those? Yes.

Okay.

We're going to come back to I'm I'm confused, Commissioner. I think Barbara and I are confused. So, we got two DAs that are unrelated to another reasonzoning. What? I don't understand. Why are we not voting on the DAS?

We are going to staff one or have both them presented to us or we both

both of the DAs.

Yeah.

So, just Yeah. My two DAs. Okay. I just I was getting confused. Why are we not? We thought you wanted to hear this other reasonzoning

which doesn't make any sense.

Staff wanted to have 54 and 57, right?

545.

Okay, so 54.

I think that's what got us.

Okay,

that was on

as to P5.

So I got I got I got mixed up. Sorry about that.

55. As to P55, we have proof of publication in this February 18th, 2026 edition of the Tampa Bay Times by an affidavit of certified mailings and site posts. William Vermillion Planning Development Economic Growth. This is the Arly DA in connected city. the location and its approximate location in connected city within the community hub. This is for the roadway segment just south that wasn't highlighted in red uh in between the previous DA's Kenton segment and Elum Road. It's the same exact typical section. This development agreement is just with the Arley DA. The other one was with the Kenton and beauty. Here's the crosssection, same as the previous DA. And again, this is the second of three back stops for the missing segment of Kenton Road in between overpass and Elim. And it also comes to the board with a recommendation of approval from both the planning commission and planning development economic growth department. I'm available for any additional questions.

Any questions for staff on P55? start.

Well, I have a question on Elan. Can I ask?

Sure.

We're gonna we're not going to go back to it. So,

okay. Well, my question's about you.

So, yeah, we'll go back to that next. Is there any question on P55?

Okay. Applicant want to come forward?

Commissioners Clark, KBY. Again, the only thing I would say it's basically the same setup as the previous one. Well, you already actually approved the DA for this one. The only reason we had to come back to you is it had a construction deadline that we couldn't meet and and when we came in there, then we changed the cross-section, but it's the same thing. Continuing the same cross-section down to Elon.

Okay. All right. With that said, any more public comment on P50? Is there any public comment on P55? Michael Ptoic, address of record. I have been sworn. I just want to get on the record here. The volume of traffic that is going to occur with the existing approved developments. And no, the other the one that we started out with. That one will be fun though. Okay, so these were the original uh volume with signalization charts that in the prior meetings I did put in record. And what I what I really really really need you to hear me on this is not only should this be four lanes right out of the gates but with the existing this is background peak for P-57 there is going to be without P-57 almost 1700 vehicles traveling east west across this intersection of Kenton and Elum and there's going to be 1355 projected vehicles. This is in one peak hour. One peak hour. In the afternoon, there we go. There's going to be almost 1,500 vehicles and over 1,700 meaning at this intersection. For safety reasons, there has got to be signalization at this intersection. It's going to go straight through with four directions of travel,

which Which intersection are you referring to?

So,

Kenton and Elam.

Are those traffic circles?

There was a traffic circle.

Where Kenton Road comes down?

The east west road is Elum. There's a bubble there with a whole bunch of blue numbers.

Yeah,

that's the intersection that we're talking about. That is also the intersection south from there where the Kenton extension will get onto Overpass Road. This is an incredible amount of traffic and especially with two lanes of traffic, 1355 vehicles in one hour trying to turn onto Elum Road is going to be beyond dangerous. Please consider making this four lanes and please please get us signalization right out of the gate so we don't get our kids teenage drivers killed trying to get to the high school. That's really it. Thank you.

Anyone else here? Anyone else here to speak to item P55?

Okay. Have staff come up first

and address the traffic concerns. thoughts are on the as to what would either signalize or increase the performance.

Absolutely. So if you if you take that that graphic back up there from the timing and phase comments

an important piece to note when you're looking at volumes east

I'm out of time. Um, as you could I get it back. You look at that that 1,600 number there for the for that peak that peak hour here that that number is drastically going to decrease whenever we talk about the next project which is constructing kinton down to overpass alleviating that east to west segment there that currently shows 1700. Additionally, you know, back of napkin you're looking at a a much larger capacity on that exists as a two-lane then um that 1600 number is showing that it's it's very sufficient for the 1600 number which again is is going to drop whenever we punch down to overpass

so

and two two signals as well

my beef

and the attorney says bring it up after because it doesn't have anything to do with this DA but I I am going to bring it up uh sorry is there's No multi-use trail on Elam as a brand new road. It's got five foot sidewalks on both sides. And I'm just wondering how did that happen? I mean, if if you're wanting to take a bike to work or a golf cart to get around these communities, you got a five- foot sidewalk on both sides on a brand new road. We don't do that here. So, how did that get approved? That's I'm I'm not happy. I saw it when I was driving through there last year and I couldn't believe it.

It's already done.

It's already done. So, we're going to have to go in there and

fix it, which is ridiculous.

Sorry.

Okay. Any other questions for the applicant?

But any anything else on Elam? Any any extension on Elim or whatever? They have to do it right. And there has to be a multi-use trail on one of the sides so people can get around. not in a car.

All right. So, the applicant doesn't have anything to add to that. So, we're going back to item 54. We have a motion.

Mr. Chairman, uh on this particular item, there was an amended do uh document, I believe, presented to board here at the meeting. We just ask that the approval be continued on final review by uh finance in the clerk's office.

54 55

54 I made a motion to approve.

A motion to approve on a second.

Second.

Okay. All in favor say I.

I.

I. Any opposed? Not the changes the clerk made. Recommendations. Now item P55 to the board. A motion.

Move. Approve.

Second.

All in favor say I. I

opposed.

Okay.

Now item P56. P

56.

57 is what you got left. 57.

57. Uh 57. I believe we already announced the publication, but we will again confirm it was Tampa Bay Times January 21st, 2026 supplemented by a certified mailings and site postings for the March 10th, 2026 meeting where it was continued to today.

Good afternoon, William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Before I get started, I I I wanted to state on the record about Elum Road. I was doing a double check. The reason that the sidewalks exist there was the 70AA crosssection and connected city contemplates only two five foot sidewalks and then the the path on the internal. So when the road was built, it used the adopted typical section. However, now that we've amended the LDC when we require the multi-use paths, it is something that the county could upgrade at a future time.

Thank you. This is PTE 267872. This is a reasonzonering request from AC Agricultural to MPUD master plan unit development to allow for the maximum development potential 110,000 square feet of non-residential entitlements and 120 hotel rooms. This is at the northwest corner of the intersection of Kenton and Elum Road. Here's the location map right around those other two DAS just to the south located within the community hub SPA of connected city there at the intersection. Here's an aerial showing the subject site. The current zoning map reflecting agricultural and the future land use in this case being that connected city spa. Here is the master plan for the MPD. You can see here that the the MPD is divided up into three different parcels um three different trapezoids area A, B and C of which each area has its own permitted use and its own building orientation standards. So

the community hub in connected city, one of the things that the community hub strives to do as as both the board and planning staff were working through tall timbers with where should a park go. The community hub also is meant to serve mixeduse areas serving as neighborhood centers. So when staff and the applicant worked on this proposal, it's its criteria here being at the intersection of Elum and the Kenton Vision Road as we build that segment south. It seemed like a prime location for a mixeduse area serving as a neighborhood center. And that's what PD and the applicant tried to accomplish here within these three different areas by having their own development standards and their own permitted uses. to go over a little bit of of what these conditions of approval strive to complete. We used um some neighborhood hubs much like Lexington or Beexley where non-residential uses such as retail and commercial were oriented around centralized third places which is what we did here in area B and area C. these these parcels or these these end users rather in areas B and C here on the master plan I just they're just the master plan. Thank you. So in area B and C which is area C being the furthest away from the intersection that that's where a vertically integrated self- storage facility would be allowed and then as we move towards the intersection and we try to create that mix of uses there along the uh the gathering space between parcels B and C where you you see the C1 neighborhood commercial and the hotel those parcels and their buildings are all are required to be oriented along the social gathering space and to frame this intersection as well as provide pedestrian connections to the existing pedestrian facilities along Elum and also as they build the road on Kenton moving south to overpass. Are we talking about future something future on Elab or you're talking about the five foot sidewalk

in the interim they'd be connecting to the five foot sidewalk until um the county can

do we have the rightway to do a multi-use path there already or do we need to get it from this project because we have to put a multi-use

we we did already get right away we actually got right away from a prey the previous DA that um was just approved item 55 that actually, oddly enough, along this frontage of Elum took care of the rightway dedication. Um, I'd have to see an actual map, but it would to see how much space we had with the 5- foot existing. Um, and the county engineer is here as well that he can talk about the retrofitting.

So, I' I'd like to go into the one variation request here from table 5229R5. This is to Yeah, let me back up from the variation request and talk about the signalization here. This is the missing kitten road segment um that is proposed to be built with two signals. They're both at Elum and then one at Overpass.

Can I ask you a question?

Um why are we not doing traffic circles in this area? Why everywhere else we're doing traffic circles to traffic moving. Is there some reason we're not doing traffic circles here?

In this particular case in connected city, a traffic circle wasn't contemplated. It was contemplated to be signalized.

I Well, I know, but now we're doing traffic signals. So, are we contemplating upgrading? Did I say that right?

Now we're doing traffic.

Yeah. Yeah.

Good afternoon, David Allen. I didn't mention or introduce myself earlier. Sorry about that. uh assistant county administrator development services in these two specific locations. Um we're really sight restricted in terms of being able to do traffic circles just because the footprint of that type of intersection takes up more space and kind of the configuration that we have for both the current and future layout doesn't provide enough room for a traffic circle in those two locations.

Well, I I hope wherever we can we contemplate traffic circles instead of traffic lights which are safer and better to keep traffic.

I will now jump back to the variation request from that table. This is a variation request to reduce the parking ratio for the self- storage facility. The connected city land development code actually requires a higher number of parking spots for self- storage facilities than the regular land development code. So the variation here is to to park the self-s storage facility consistent with the land development code in l of the connected city land development code. Why would we be changing that

to be? So I think that the the connected city LDC vastly overparks self-s storage facilities which don't generally use a a large parking lot and that's shown in the regular land development code which has a different parking ratio. So we're we're just going with the regular land development code in this case.

You'll see you'll get more green.

Yeah. You don't They only park when they have to run in the office and get a new key or something.

Thank you.

With that, that come this comes with a recommendation of approval from both the planning commission and planning development economic growth. I'm here for any questions.

Okay. I just need to know about

Mr. Start.

I just need to know about the land for the multi-use. Make sure that we don't that we have the ability to expand that sidewalk. And if that's a county engineer or someone That's important to the community.

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. Nick Ren, county engineer. Um, the short answer is yes, we have enough space within a 70 foot rideway to construct multi-use pathways or trails. The the obstacle we're going to have to overcome is that we have used the space to construct the typical section adopted in connected city which put six-foot multi-purpose lanes adjacent to the vehicular lanes on the roadway.

And who's going to use those? Nobody.

Well, the board adopted those typical sections and the development community constructed them consistent with the plan for that area. We are working aggressively to change those so that we don't construct additional facilities like this in the future because we recognize your input as well as other members of the community saying that they would rather see that space allocated to the trail. It is rel it's rather expensive to retrofit a constructed corridor to move the space from the area between the curbs to the area outside the curb. So, leaving the six foot lane on the pavement, is there room to expand the sidewalk on the north side?

I we we can certainly explore that.

Well, I'm not going to So, there is room within the 70 foot. What what you what you lose is the space in between the edge of the back of the curb and the front of the sidewalk that you had allocated toward landscaping. So, something's got to give there. There will be a trade-off. If we want a wider pathway, we will have to either move the curb and gutter inward toward the center of the road, very expensive, or give up on green space.

So, um, in connected city, were we not comp I mean, this was this high-tech community where people and people got around on golf carts. So, where's what happened to that concept on Elam Road? So the concept that was put forward and endorsed by the board was to construct what are called six foot multi-purpose lanes within the curb area.

So is that are those for golf carts?

They are for golf carts.

So then the traffic cannot be faster than 35 miles an hour.

So then traffic is supposed to be traveling slower.

So that's what we have on Elam. That's what's planned. So that that's going to be a golf cart lane on Elam.

Yes. with with the caveat that if you drive elim Elum,

you will notice that the golf cart lanes

get merged into the vehicular lanes.

Oh, good. At a very at various locations along

Thank you, Margaret.

Because to minimize the conflict at the crossing streets,

it's it's a design that leaves some things to be designed.

Well, that's that's the plan. So, the golf carts are allowed in the road and we have to keep the traffic

for that area

35 miles an hour, but I still need a multi-u wider sidewalk on on one of the sides.

But we we have the space to build a multi a wider sidewalk on the north side or the south side at the expense of reducing the green area.

Okay, great.

So, you want to reduce the green area?

Yeah. I mean, there's no other choice. You have to keep the kids safe on their bikes and stuff. You can't pass. You cannot pass safely on a flight. Another one. One of you is going to go off the sidewalk.

And then so that's why they make

All right.

Barbara Will height 6327 Grand Boulevard have a PowerPoint and Will got me banned from the clicker. I guess

it was taken from him too. We'll be doing clicker training on this third.

I'm not very good at it. So, I definitely can understand why you guys take it away from a lot of this context. You know, this is like the third time you've heard about this area. I have to say this a lot of information that we usually don't have when we come forward with some of our resonings. The intersection here, Kent Elam, a natural commercial location. We're at the southern edge of the community hub. Um, as you've heard, Kenton Roads 42 foot rightway ultimate four lane. 70 foot um ultimate is two lanes. Obviously, this area is changing. That's why you have all these DAs. I can tell you that my client is is the segment between Elam and overpass the two signals. Reapa is going to do that project with the county. We have a DA a development agreement pending as we speak here. We spent a lot of time placemaking here. We do have the areas keep up with myself here. A, B, and C. Starting closest to the intersection is our area C. Next slide. Um, so for area C, we reserve this for commercial retail uses only. Oh my goodness, look at that. Now I'm gonna mess it up really bad. So we reserve those areas for commercial retail only. We prohibited uses and these are significant uses when you're talking about this location in the community, the southern portion of the community hub. No standalone drivethrus. That's no Wendy's, no McDonald's, no standalone drive.

Awesome.

No, no gas.

No convenience gas.

Is there a misspelling on it?

Say entertainment.

No, no convenience. All the things that the client wanted are in this prohibited list. No, I'm kidding.

Or would have wanted, but we we didn't start there. So, no convenience gas, no car wash, no vehicle sales, no no vehicle garages. That would be no auto zones, no um things we see, right? Tire places and the like. We limited to restaurants, coffee shops, cafe, bars, and entertainment for the first two years. So, those are the only uses that can go in there. Want county wanted to really try to charge this area to be able to have these uses. So, the client agreed to that commitment. Another thing that we talked about at planning commission was really just trying to talk about this social this social gathering area. How does it really become a social gathering area where we added a requirement that now we have to have a property owners association and it'll be maintained and owned by the property owners association so that all the different restaurants and the like can use that area and so can the public come you know hopefully in their golf carts or their bike and they can sit and have a coffee in the morning. We heard about building orientations not only in area C, which is closest to the intersection, but area B, both buildings within those areas orient to a social gathering area. I was asked at planning commission, why don't you have an exhibit? Well, because we don't have our users yet, and I never wanted to show you something that I don't know I'm going to do. So, we spent painstaking time trying to write how we're going to do these things. Social gathering area, again, talked about who maintains that build in area B and C are required to orient to that that area. We even go down to where you can park, where you can have parking, where you can have driving just to make sure again you're framing and making an actual social gathering area.

Down to number B. It's reserved for commercial retail office or hotel use only. Again, depending on which of those users you have, how the parking and driving can happen in relation to the social gathering area, the same commitment in area B that the commercial any commercial retail uses in that area for two years have to be restaurants, coffee shops, cafe, bars, entertainment.

So what happens after two years?

Yeah. What does that mean? After two years, we we flipped back to not doing this confidently, but here's the prohibited list. You can have other you can have other things other than So, you could have a nail shop. You can have anything that's not prohibited. You can have on the commercial retail side.

When does the 2-year clicker start?

Starts from if you approve today. Starts from today. So then we went to area A. Area A. See see why they banned me. We looked at area A. That's the area we're allowed to have the self storage use. No more than three acres. First floor retails required 5,000 square feet. And our facades are required to carry architectural oral landscaping features. interest. So it's going to be how it looks first floor retail the size is restricted so the storage will be above above retail um and that is the presentation start

um when when will this Kenton road be built? I I'm a little

I know the client has already kicked off the design. We have working on our DA with the county. So, as quickly as we can get the DA approved.

So, I'm a little concerned that that it's that two years would start before the roads there. So, is that what is that? It's kind of ambiguous for me. Um and I I feel that maybe we need more time. Is it two years after Kenton Road is open? Um, but you may not even start Kenton Road in two years, like two years. You got to get your permits, all those things, right? And then and then the opportunity will be gone to have something very good that's really good for the neighborhood. So, I don't know. I don't think it should start from today. What What are your all's thoughts? I'm going to say I've got a I think it's a legit concern. So, having it known when it's coming. Um I think we're doing well to kind of work with that storage thing to have the re the retail underneath it to make it work to help the site become more viable,

but I think if you stretched out that time to when the roads built

and put two years in,

you have public comments, so let me talk to my client anytime.

Okay.

Thank you. I mean, I I appreciate sometimes land sits forever. It's not fair to to the developer.

Okay.

I'm thinking of the Saddle Brook property.

All right. So, now

we're going to go to public comment to come forward. You get nine minutes today.

This is why I'm here. And I did ask for extended.

I ate all my Smarties. I'm going to have to eat his Smarties. You want your

I'll give you my chocolate, please.

Park guy reporting for duty. Michael Ptok. Uh, address on record. Yes, I I'm under oath. Do you want this in your neighborhood? And I mean it. This is This We're talking about a five-story hotel and a three-story storage unit in the middle of our residential community hub. This is unacceptable. I am not opposed to growth. I'm not opposed to things being built. This is silliness. This is going to be in the middle of Eper and Apprele and Kenton.

I want to talk about the comp plan for a minute. Yeah, when you go into the comp plan, the LDC connected city, even though staff, uh, director PTOS has repeatedly on record said that the comp plan is aspirational and the term transitional has been used repeatedly. It does not exist in the comp plan. Neither of them. Why is that important? Because in your comp plan it says adherence to the connected city comprehensive plan policies all CC MPUD development application shall be consistent with the intent and policies of the connected city comp plan. That's very important because it states in 5229 the big book that was written for the connected city what the purpose and intent is and there's a legal definition there. The word shall the word shall means mandatory. It is mandatory to follow the purpose and intent. Now, while the greater connected city SBA allows for all use types, although some are prohibited, technically an international airport didn't get prohibited, just for the record. It says each spa zone has a specific character that describes the optimal density, intensity, and predominant uses. This is a map of the greater spa zones. The community hub is orange. South of it is blue. That's the south innovation area. To the north is the green innovation area. To the purple on the left or the west, that's the business district. And the yellow is the urban area. The purpose and intent of the community hub. This is it right here. Straight from the book. I zoomed in a little bit. The intent of this zone is to create a unique centralized education. Schools have been moved out though. Recreation and open space system that's well connected to each of the other zones and serves and complements the city connect the city development as a whole. The community hub zone shall be characterized by a mix of residential, educational, recreational, civic, culture and resort type uses. The lagoons are the resort type uses. If you want to ask where storage units and hotels go, the very same comp plan tells us the north and south innovation zones are for office, medical, hotel, and retail. I can lump self storage units into that definition of what's supposed to be there. That definition does not fit inside of the community hub and nobody can get up here and try to explain that it's a transitional zone because it's bordered on all four sides by residential and the comp plan is not aspirational. We have to follow this storage units are not part of the community hub purpose and intent. Back to the map so you can see it. The orange the community hub is meant to be residential and parks. staff brought up the parks, so I'll jump right in. This is the VP Super Park. It's actually 17 minutes by car to get from the community hub to the park, and it's been whittleled down to three softball fields. So, it's not going to work. That is your 80 acres in the middle of connected city.

The 40 acres right there could, if you wanted to, be turned into this. This fits on 40 acres right there. And I can show you how Penllis is using a park just like this to make money. They bring revenue in. They bring in tourists. And beyond that, it pays for itself. This could be sitting right on your property right now. But let's jump back into this. This is what we're talking about. That does not meet the purpose or intent of the connected city nor the comp plan. Florida statutes 163 says no development may be approved unless it is consistent with the adopted comprehensive plan. Why is it important? Let me give you some court cases. Pado versus Musgrove says it will be consistent. Pinerest versus Chidel. They actually had to demolish an existing apartment complex because it violated the comp plan. Imhof and Walton. This is from 2021 heard by the district court specifically says development orders must comply with the entire comprehensive plan. This does not belong in our residential area and I don't think you would approve this in any of your neighborhoods and your developments. Starky Ranch is a perfect example. No, don't do that.

This would not be put there. This has to be voted no.

Thank you. Anyone else to speak to item P57?

No one else.

I see Nelson Hazelwood coming up.

Nancy Hayeswood 34110. A nice place. I agree with Mike completely. Why have we got a planning department and a comprehensive plan if we don't follow it? Thank you. Barbara will again for the applicant. So there's a table that he didn't show you table CC4-2 development pattern for the spa zones. It talks about predominant uses and yes he he read to you predominant uses and it talks about prohibited uses. What's prohibited? No commercial on that list. Prohibited is industrial. It talks about mixeduse areas which mixeduse areas serving as neighborhood centers. That's what we're we're doing here. This is this is commercial for the area. We made sure we designed it for the area. So it is not against the community hub. We're on the southern edge of the community hub. We're not on the lake. We're not in the middle. We're on the edge. So we have followed the comprehensive plan. We have followed the connected city requirements. Um to answer the question, I did talk to my my plan and so we can change the two years to three years. As soon as they approve our development agreement, they're going to start construction. already started the design process even without the development agreement in place um to try to get it going. I want to show a picture of a storage. I've shown it to you before. It's in Sarasota. So, we're looking at the self innovation zone.

Pardon me.

We're looking at the south innovation zone.

We're community hub zone on the south side of it. South innovation zones to our south. You see common uses, residential mixed uses shall be provided in all zones, but certainly not a zone where you're not commercial. Can we go back to the map that shows exact zoom in? Not a star, but zoom in.

You want to see the different? I want to I want to see the property like an aerial to show where it is exactly

the part of the road that we're looking at part of the agreement was to take it all the way down from Elon Road to

to overpass

to overpass.

Correct. the signalization of both of those. Let's go back to the previous one. The zones up there like a double screen. It's got the different colors on it. It's got like purple and blue and that's it. Yeah, that's what you're looking for. If I just go back to the regular slide that just listed all the Did you want the table, Commissioner?

The other table. Sorry.

The table. Yeah, the table. Would a hotel be considered something that supports a recreational use?

Would a hotel be considered a recreational use?

Would it No, it says mix of uses that support recreational uses. Would a hotel be considered

Oh, absolutely. something

in the storage center. Remember that you have John Hopkins about half mile away.

So the storage qualify as a mix here. neighborhood centers.

Yes. When you remember your storage is is vertical as you want it. You want the retail on the first floor. So it's not like it's taking up land.

That's that's why the county you all wanted to see the retail on the first. So that storage is something you need but it's not taking up property. So if you don't do it here that's why we put the retail on the first floor. Right. Back to after three years, what would then potentially happen to the property?

I think that's an addition to the storage.

No. Yeah. No, it is. I'm just I'm just trying that's another thing that as you brought up.

Area A is going to be storage and retail.

Yeah.

Retail first floor 5500 ft. And then A and B, B can be retail, office or hotel. A excuse me C going ABC um C is just retail. So the reservation which for now for three years says any of the retail in this project other than the first four retail um would be limited to drinking or eating for three years and then after that it can go to other other uses whether it be hair shop, nail shop. Um, so can be restaurants. So can be can be

what could be restaurants from the beginning.

Can always be it can always be restaurants, coffee shops. It's just a reservation saying we're going to go after those uses for three years and after three years couldn't get, you know, we need to develop the property. So that's the that was where we came up with the the limit limiting it to try to uses.

Um, Commissioners, I sent Gina two photos. Can you show the first one and then the second one? This is I've showed you this development before. This is uh Lakewood Ranch kind of outside of Lakewood Ranch. It's on Fruit. It's called Fruitville Commons. Um, those that's multif family on the right side and that's a storage unit uh building there. And can you show the next picture? I'm And I'm sorry, the Google map, the Google car did not go down that road. Is that the second one or the first one? Yes. Show the second one. Um, it's all it's pretty. Yeah. So, that's that's one that's vertically that has vertical mixed use. That's pretty nice looking. And if we can, you know, get something like that, I think that's a lot better. You bring up a good point. So, how could how can we incorporate that?

I I don't know. I have to ask dad into this. So, it looks like

this is a company called Public Storage.

Remember, they have to a We have to put retail 5,500 feet on the first floor.

No. And I get that. That looks good.

Facids. The county gets to approve the facades.

County. Why?

The county gets to approve what our facade looks like by reason of the condition we agreed to

because I think the arms building would be able to start.

Yeah.

Right.

They get to approve the facade. So,

so take a picture of that. Yes, there you go.

There you go.

Staple it to the

barber sign off on it.

Yes.

But I think I mean that does look much better.

Yes, it does. That's why they wrote into the conditions that they wanted to approve our facades.

So the same would go with let's say after three years whatever you're going to put be able to look at do the same.

Yeah. So after three years, we could have different tenants for our retail, but we still have to orient our buildings and restrictions on where parking can be and where drive aisles can be. So we have a social gathering area. It just allows us to have some tenants. It's just not working that we're able to attract all the drinking and eating and we need to be able to have some tenants in there

and and as long as it can it will have keep

Yes.

like something like this. I mean, how do we do we have the control over it? Well, we can add that have to have a common color palette. We can add some architectural standards to make sure that we're consistent amongst all of our buildings.

Like a champions gate, you drive down there and come through some regular retail, but it doesn't look like they're regular retail and it looks good.

See if you're ever in Sarasota, you should pull out and drive through this. very welldesigned place. It has a great furniture store that none of us can afford to shop. It's the best furniture store in Florida.

Right. That's a challenge.

Is that where she shops?

Not me.

If she says that, I know I'm not going there.

I'm just warning you. You're just going to look

add a requirement for common architectural color scheme. We we have some from another project. Um so I can write language that adds that as a requirement of this. So yes, commissioner, I agree with you. I was driving in Chance and Gate Champions Gate and I said this looks great. Why does it look great? Because it's all compliments each other. So, and it has all different uses, but it's very complimentary. Same thing at Prominade. If you go down at Prominade, which isn't too far from here, um at Prominade, which is at Curly and Overpass, it's kind of it's got common architecture, common colors, looks good. You look when you drive into Fox Hollow to the left side there's an industrial building there but they made it to look like it's not that was built into it. It wasn't

I know I I know which one you're talking about.

Oh the commercial the office they used to make hangers in there.

It's no it's not industrial. It is the association uh offices of the like door builders association or something.

They used to I think they used to make something. There's one of the hangers that was down by um um in Penllis County. Yeah, East Lake. Yeah, that hanger one was right there. Great. Yeah.

So, I think if we get the look and go through this, this does provide a great connection for this whole area that we desperately need to have to keep it flow. I mean, the flow's good now, but as things are being built up to the northern part, if we don't have that flow coming down, it's critical. I think having the light overpass is going to be a big it's going to be needed. Uh it's just been a very important missing piece. So I I think that staff in this conversation with the board now has actually enhanced it quite a bit. I think staff and the Barbara, you and your developers have done a good job working with us to try to find a way to get this done. So I'm I'm pretty well satisfied what what I've heard. So I think you guys did a good job bringing it all together. The team's done great. This is the type of thing, you know, we can't just keep on saying we got to wait for the development to get stuff done. We need to get stuff done ahead of time and timeliness like we used to be able to do from years ago until state legislator changed the rules. It's hard. This is a great I think opportunity for success to get the best we can possibly get out of it.

If you wanted to, your motion would include that we include language in the MPV conditions that require architectural materials and color common aritectural materials in the color palette is what we have from another project you haven't seen yet.

Okay. Any other questions for the applicant or staff?

No. I'm grateful that you added the one more year. Thank you very much.

To the board.

Uh move approval.

Second. The noted conditions were just mentioned.

Well, and and the uh and the architectural

and the conditions she just read.

Yeah. Okay, I'm good with that.

And and we do have right away for the multi-use.

Okay.

All right. All in favor say I.

I.

I. Any opposed?

Okay. Motion passes.

58.

You did that.

You did that at the same.

So, we are done with the public hearings. It's not attorney.

Um, and I was informed at the lunch break that I no longer need a litigation assessment meeting. So he's going to end up that time.

Okay. So that's

which when

one that you hadn't.

It's a personal injury case.

Oh, okay.

Anything else for the county attorney's office?

I'm fine. Thank you.

All right. Thank you.

Appreciate you already did your right.

So can we just uh I got some pictures up there. Let me make sure I get Commissioner G here. All right. So, after we got done seeing the Vincent house, I drove home and this is on a little road with the housing authority building. This land is probably seems to be about 4 acres and it looks like that.

And and now I think with what we passed for the tree mitigation, we now have the authority to enable Mike to go landscape that whole thing.

Yes, please.

So, I think we quite a bit to start actually I didn't get the picture I don't think there's actually a playground there that has no shame whatsoever

so I think we can do a lot better and uh someone make a motion to if I need to make a motion

is that little road right behind you

little road yeah

why isn't there a fence

where we see

if it's on public land I don't think I need it but let me let me do some research and if it is I'll bring it back to you

all right so as far as in your authority do you need a from us to go do that or

to my knowledge if it's if we're doing the planting on public lands I've got I've got spend authority

up to a certain level let me do the research for that

and if I have to come back I'll come back

okay and if not

I'm sensing thank you

okay

backyard

and I want to say the uh people from me brothers went around the state

talking about what they have done obviously complimenting us saying how force how much foresight we showed how much we money we have saved by signing up with them eight years ago whatever it was yeah nine years ago

uh we've saved a bunch of money we've now doing something great the product that's out there that fertilizer is unbelievable it's going to be a great seller and I think it's going to be great and the great news is for the whole state and I think the whole nation these guys leading the way to something has been phenomenal so uh they did a great job the presentation. I got to hear it. I actually learned a little bit more that some things I didn't

Where were you when this was going?

It was down in Pelisburg. They did it last week and they invited me down for it and I says I want to come down. So they uh they kind of like did their presentation, talked about the whole project. They invited me up to go speak and I talked about how great the partnership was, we've gone through it and how I recommend it for everybody. So great great work for everybody. Uh next one. just be house. Is that it?

That's good.

Okay. Well, we already said Lisa was there. So, we're all good.

I want to bring something up.

Commissioner Stark,

um I want to bring up a subject to you guys that's been bothering me for a while. And um I don't uh when you're driving around the county, please take notice, especially now when you're driving up Little Road and we have new pork corners. Just like we all got pretty upset about all the trees that went down. I want you to look at the power lines that the developer chose to leave above ground and not put below ground. Um uh notice on Starky Boulevard when you're driving north that the original developers, us um put the power lines underground and then we were able to put oak trees along Stock Boulevard and it's turning into a canopy road. But when you get to the new part that another devel developer did that is um where your daughter is I think looking at going, they chose to keep holes above ground and it looks It's not a pretty road, but when I saw what happened at Newport Corners and Little Road, we have a problem with the organs and most quality developers put those underground in front of their developments, but and most counties require that, but we don't have that in our ordinance. And so, I think we need to fix that ASAP.

And Manatee, do you know what it is? I know that the the subdivisions, but I think it's the same requirement we have. Subdivision roads are required the subdivisions are required to have them underground. The collectors and arterials are

Yeah. With within the residential subdivisions, it is a requirement. They're they're buried there on the collectors. It it becomes a costbenefit analysis that the developers usually weigh.

So, you know, our county is different. We don't have a lot of especially on the on the west side, we don't have a lot of roads that aren't collectors and arterials. So all these new developments, they're coming on collectors arterials and we're we're making them ugly and um you'll never be able to have shade trees along those roads. Um, so I I think that there we need to look at that and craft something as soon as possible that you know I'm not saying the whole development it has to be under but um certainly that entrance area or we just need to look at this and I just challenge you to take a look at what happened to Little Road.

I don't mind taking a look and see what we could do. We're the um we have a development on uh you know we had our blueberry farm on Lake Branch Drive. We didn't pay attention to this sadly in our development agreement with the developer. It was a quality developer but we didn't say those need to be underground. And I can tell you that I am now my husband and I we're going to have to pay for them to go underground in front of our development because we're just not going to have that because we we're keeping the front and we're doing something different up there. Um, but you know, if I could do it and we're just a little guy, these guys can do it and they should be doing it. We should be asking them to do it.

Not distribution lines, but these what do you call them?

Well, I mean, they're they're kind of I mean, they're not

not transmission lines.

They're they're definitely not transmission. Yeah, that that is certainly, but you're talking these 13 36 KVA type lines that are used to feed communities, what you'd want to look at. Starky Boulevard is designated as a scenic road. They should never have been allowed to be above ground. I don't think that's in the definition of scenic road. And so, um, we got to fix that. Um, I'm willing, let's say, tell I am a little cautious to what we do because West Pasco redevelopment offer to put those new rules in. So, depending how it looks, I'm willing to look at it to try to make it better. I can have staff do some research and report back to the board. Would that

And Mike, if you would have staff go and take a look along 5A road um with Luchi did some tree trimming that was down and I've got some trees that are literally like this. There were great canopy, but there's no downs in it anymore.

And if we get a big wind, big storm, we did have a few branches drop down the last storm. You could have this topple over. And if you can put some understory things that won't affect the power lines above now that we have the landscaping thing that I think you make it look a lot better and and probably do something good there.

Okay.

Is that anything else before the board?

Mr. Chairman, uh for the record, uh there was two items withdrawn from the noted item list and so to note two withdrawals N73 and N74. Thank you. All right. Thank you all. We're right here.

Thank you.

Yes. By the way,

nice.

That one was I listened.