1.28.25 Pasco Board of County Commissioners Meeting (Afternoon Session)

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we are going to start with what number are we on p32 please silence your phones if you have not done so p32 was previously published in the October 2nd 2024 addition of the Tampa Bay times for the meeting of December 10th 2024 where it was continue to today good morning good afternoon thank you madam chairman uh pitos Planning Development economic growth item p32 is pte 25005 this is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan to change the future Landing map from res six to residential sixing per gross acre to I industrial Light on about 1.8 Acres on the Southeast corner of the intersection of alderman Lane and Rowan Road uh this is a request for continuance to a date uncertain move to continue second all in favor I I um did I have to see if anyone wanted to speak to it we advertised it as a continuous okay uh p33 is uh was originally published in the August 7th 202 for addition of the Tampa Bay times for a meeting on September 3rd of 2024 uh where it was continued to October 8th where the meeting was cancel due to Hurricane Milton the item appeared on the November 12th 2024 board meeting where it was continued to today item p33 is pte 2500 60 this is an ordinance amending the pasel county comprehensive plan to to change the future land use map from res 3 residential 3 dwelling SP gross are AG agricultural to PD plan development and approximately 100.8 Acres located at the southeast intersection of US 41 in Leland Avenue about 1.1 miles north of State 52 this is known as the Fletcher comprehensive plan Amendment um this is requested the applicant is requested a continuance to the March 25 2025 meeting in new at 1:30 p.m. so um why does it say um South South okay south of 41 and Leland not south of 41 and 52 corre okay that was a little misleading for me okay I'll take a motion for continuance continue second all in favor I oppos thank you p34 p 34 was advertised in the January 1st and January 5 January 1st January 8th and January 15th 2025 editions and the January 22nd 2025 editions of the Tampa Times p34 is pde 2534 this is an ordinance establishing Northridge Community Development District pursuing to chapter 190 Florida Statutes providing for authority and power of the district providing for powers and duties of the district providing for the Board of Supervisors of the district providing for the District budget providing for functions of the district providing for excuse me providing for miscellaneous Provisions providing for an effective date this comes to you with a recommendation to adopt the ordinance by roll call vote okay board members any discussions is there anyone here that wishes to speak to this item we have no one signed up either in person or on online all right roll call vote move for approval okay oh yeah we need that okay roll call vote district one commissioner

Oakley hi District Two commissioner Wagman hi District Four commissioner jger hi District Five commissioner Mariano hi District three chair starky hi okay p 3 P35 35 we have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter in the Tampa Bay Times November 6 2024 supplemented by Affidavit of certified mailings and site postings item P35 is PD 25004 4 6 this is an ordinance amending the Pas County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan Amendment to the Future land use map map 2-15 in sheet 3 from Comm commercial to Res 6 residential six Dell units per gross acre and approximately 2.57 Acres of real property located at the corner at the northwest corner of the intersection of Hudson Avenue and Hicks Road and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency provider for repealer cability and an effective date uh this comes to you with a recommendation to approve the proposed comprehensive plan Amendment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote we have a presentation if so desired okay um any discussion um is there anyone here who wishes to speak to this item no one has signed up in advance move approval second roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner Wagman hi District Four commissioner Yer hi District Five commissioner Mariano hi District three chair starky I P36 P36 we have proof of publication Tampa Bay Times January 1st 8th 15th and 22nd 2025 item P36 is pte 2585 this is an ordinance establishing the two ridges Community Development District pursuing to chapter 190 Florida Statutes providing for authority and power of the district providing for powers and duties of the district providing for the Board of Supervisors of the district providing for the District budget providing for function of the district providing for miscellaneous Provisions providing for an effective date this comes with to you with a recommendation to adopt the ordinance by roll call vote all right um board members any questions is there anyone here to speak to this item we have no one signed up in advance move approval second um roll call vote district one commissioner Oakley I District Two commissioner wakan I District Four commissioner Jager hi District Five commissioner Mariano hi District three chairman starky hi um p37 and so um we will now take up our um zoning rules do you want to share that with the public you want read you want me to read the procedures I'll be happy to there are two two resoning agendas regular and consent staff will present each application to the board of County Commissioners if staff or Planning Commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition the application will be considered by the board without further presentation if staff or Planning Commission has recommended denial or if there is

opposition to the application the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal any individual disagreeing with staff or Planning Commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning May at this time request that the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting otherwise all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote if you wish to speak to any petition please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record these are Quasi judicial public hearings blw in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's Land Development code for resoning Mr clerk would you like to swear the public in yes sir uh anyone who is wishing to speak to any of the items on the zoning agenda if you would please stand again if you intend at any point in the next few moments to speak to any of the items on the res zoning agenda please stand and raise your right hand do you in each of you swear or affirm the testimony you will give in these matters is the truth so help you God thank you please when you come forward give your name and address at the podium and also acknowledge that you have been sworn thank you okay p37 P 37 we have proof of public uh this is going to take glasses we're spending a fortune on this public notice yeah we have proof of publication in the May 1st 2024 Edition for the June 18th 2024 board meeting uh where it was continued to August 21st where it was continued to September 3rd where the meeting to October 8th where the meeting was canceled due to Hurricane Milton the item appeared on the November 12th 2024 board meeting where it was continued to today move or yes item p37 is PD 27739 uh this is a zoning Amendment for the Fletcher Mudd which is the companion uh zoning companion to the comprehensive plan Amendment which was uh just continued this is a recommendation of uh continuance the applicant has requested a uh continuance from the from today's date to March 25 2025 in newort Richie this is a different date than what's listed in the agenda memo okay um so uh we are going to continue this but is there anyone here that wishes to speak to this if they do they can all right because our rules are that if we speak today you cannot speak at the next meetings just to let you know but no one's coming forward do we have anyone on line no ma'am not for this matter okay take a motion move approval second all in favor move to continue to time

certain time certain Yeah March 25th y okay all in favor I I thank you P38 P38 uh this item uh was published in the August 28th 2024 edition of the Tampa Bay Times and continued from the October 22nd 20124 meeting to December 10th where it was continued to today itm P38 is pte 27818 this is a zoning amendment in the name of HCM Hospitality LLC which is a change in zoning from a C2 JN commercial District to an and mf1 multiple family medium density District to an mf1 multiple family medium density City District in West Central Pasco County on the east side of US Highway 19 950 ft south of State Ro 52 this is a requesting continuance to the February 25 2025 board County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m in Newport Richie okay is there again anyone that wish to speak to this today if you do then you can no you this was advertised as you don't you don't have to okay we do have one person online but I believe there are representative of the applicant okay um Mr being continued so to continue time certain second all right I'm assuming that the applicant does not want to speak well they don't have to they don't have to okay I know they don't have to but if they want to do I have to let them no okay you can't speak all in favor I that's a different question all right P39 P39 9 was advertised in the November or posted in the November 6th 2024 edition of the Tampa Bay Times P39 is PD 25784 this is a zoning amendment in the name of Rowan Road LLC de industrial which is a change in zoning from a po2 professional office District to an i1 light Industrial Park District uh at the southeast corner of the intersection of Rowan Road and Alderman Lane uh it contains approximately 1.8 Acres it's not right on the corners it's just north of that corner but it's a request to continue to the March 25 2025 board County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m in Newport and I'm going to guess this is the same thing since we advertised it so um unless the applicant wants to speak we'll take a motion to approve move move continuous second all in favor I I P40 beginning the consent agenda um P40 we have proof of publication in the November 6 2024 edition of the Tampa Bay Times supplemented by affidavit is certified mailings and site postings P40 is PD 27785 this is a zoning amendment in the name of New York Avenue Business Park LLC Diagonal Road Business Park which is a change in zoning from a R2 low density residential district and C2 General commercial District to an i1 light Industrial Park District in with Northwest Pasco County at the southeast corner of the intersection of Diagonal Road in New York Avenue containing approximately 16.84 Acres this comes to you with the recommendation to adopt the zoning Amendment and there is a presentation of so desired chair yes just question sure trust verify live local act provisions on this yes sir

thank you looking for the map um board members any questions on this one and is there anyone in the public who wishes to speak against this item I see no one we'll leave it on consent anyone online uh no one online for that matter p41 p41 proof of publication November 6 2024 addition of the Tampa Tampa Bay Time supplemented by certified U Affidavit of certified mailings and site posting item p41 is pd25 5 7794 this is a zoning amendment in the name of Lake Park mpud Hudson Avenue Land Company this is a resoning request from a C2 General commercial District General commercial zoning district and MPD master plan unit development District to a new mpud master plan unit development District to allow for the development of up to 100 single family detached dwelling units and Associated infrastructure on approximately 57.4 Acres located in Northwest Pasco County directly north of Hudson Avenue and directly west of H Hicks Road it's right on the intersection northwest corner uh this comes here with a recommendation to approve the resoning request with conditions and there's a presentation of so desired um board members would you like to see a presentation it's a consent Adam or not yeah it's consent it's a consent Adam I know but you can still pull it off if you have questions okay okay well is there anyone in the public who wishes to speak to this item okay we'll leave it on cons anyone online no okay we'll leave it on consent and that might be the end of my consent Agenda One More for consent yeah one more 42 oh I C that one p 42 um proof of publication Tampa Bay Times November 6 2024 supplemented by Affidavit of certified mailings and side postings item p42 is PD 27841 this is a zoning Amendment the name of citrico alliance LLC which is a change in zoning from a AC agricultural district and a C2 General commercial District to a AC agricultural district and a C2 General commercial District in West Central Pasco County on the south side of Ridge Road approximately one4 Mile East of little road containing approximately 9.92 Acres this comes you with a recommendation to adopt the zoning Amendment and there's a presentation of so desired anyone want to question this one okay is there anyone in the public who'd like to comment on this um anyone online speak against all right we'll leave it on consent and we will take a motion move consent items approval second all in favor I opposed all right p43 p43 we have proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times January 1st 2025 and January 8th 2025 good afternoon Joanne Rita real property division real property team has received a petition to vacate a portion of a ploted Ingress egress easement a utility easement and the rear lot lines of lots 41 and 42 of shooting star Court by

sunfield homes and ory development the purpose of the vacation is to enable the petitioners to create buildable lots for future residential construction there were no objections to this petition and the team recommends approval okay this is my district this actually no one spoke to me about this one um what is the land behind there it's owned by both developers well that both of those developers same family but what what is it um it's my understanding is that it is just currently vacant land that they were going to develop but they realized that they could not develop it so they wanted to remove the Ingress egress easement so that they could develop the two residential lots in the front well um I'm just wondering is that is that land can you pull up the map yes is that is there any up is there any value to keep access to that land could it become a park or anything like that I'm certain of that I'm hoping that there might be representatives of yeah just curious I'm looking at the map but it's my it's not so hot here my map name and address for the record please Patricia Buck uh ory development sunfield homes 9040 Trion a104 Trinity and I have been sworn in thank you um the land in originally when we pled this in 2002 we retain the tract in the back for future development that's what it shows on the plat I have um a bigger drawing if that helps any um so we still own that part and we also own Parcels or lot uh 41 and 42 originally we tried to do some development plans and they were opposed not only by the HOA but also by the county so at this point on those two lots how can they no not on the Lots on the land in the back and can we see a different view of this so we can get the context of what's around here uh I have something if if I could approach I could give you rece file um's all in favor I it's a drawing that if you look at the pink area can you switch that are you switching that to Google Earth or or Pasco mapper or something yeah probably Pasco mapper is better and I know that is this the land that you approached us to maybe see if we would could get it along the river if yeah yeah he's not here is he so if you if you look at the pink area that's the um track 20 that was the future development tract and what we've done is we've basically split it in half and attached it to lot 41 and lot 42 so our goal is to sell those two platted Lots but right now the easement between the Lots instead of having a a 7 and 1/2t side yard setback you have a 17 1/2 so with a pie lck you've got almost no building pad yeah so because we can't use the back all we're trying to do is make the uh units that are they more buildable oh and it's no longer needed anymore all right so that this doesn't back up to the this is a different place than I was thinking um can you can you zoom out so there's no Upland land no it's also it's all in the flood plane yeah yeah okay all right and the reason why I

showed you the green area um because as you can see each of those green tracks or HOA tracks and the green going between the Lots is the access to the green tracks as platted so this particular easement doesn't have anything to do with the HOA was something that we were required to do during plat in order to have access Ingress egress and utilities for the future development which as I said is no longer happening there was a time when um I know when this used to be our property yes there there was a hope that somewhere this would connect back to starky Boulevard instead of everyone going up you know there's only one one exit although I I do hope to connect Amazon and Anaconda David angle that's the piece I was showing you right there there's a little strip there from uh left over that now I think we might own it now we can do that connection um so I you know there there's no useful land behind there and no reason to not approve this I would entertain a motion you have a question yeah yeah just a question um so the area that's marked pink on I guess those are lots you're not going to build on those two lots no we we are going to build on lot 41 and 42 we still own those right and the pink tract is now basically divided in half half of it goes with 41 and half of it goes with 42 you you can't see that on there right right where the easement is if you continue to draw the line straight where it hits the top of the page that's pretty much where it's at so so the easement is no longer needed okay but I thought you said something about electric and seore and all hookup is that a hookup can that be done with that project for this property here um the water and sewer were built with the original project they're at the front lot line in the utility easement for 41 and 42 there's two Stouts one for each lot yep mhm so you'll connect those for these Lots behind well there is no lot in behind it's just the land behind will go with the lot in the front so um what's been H have people been trespassing back there on your property CU I see what do you think oh yeah I bet I could see those little guys on those motorcycles back there if I look close that well and this will help that once we get the two lots in the front with real houses built there and somebody owns the land land in the back uh you won't have that yeah so basically that part in the pink is not buildable won't build that out I'm not talking about the Lots there's a little bit of high dry but it's going to go with the Lots right yeah so they'll have a right but they won't build back there they can build an Adu back there bu resal back there correct they can put an ad back there yep that's pretty good for those lots too yeah we have some Lots like that in aresa that happen to go way back um just because of the way the layout was so um that looks good okay is there anyone else in the public that want just to speak to

this move approval second second all in favor I oppos okay thank you thank you okay [Applause] p44 we have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter on the January 15th 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay TOS all right p44 been waiting Nick good afternoon Commissioners uh Nick uren County engineer and yes this has been a long time coming um let's see briefly pre a brief presentation on this we we're taking ownership from the state of two corridors State Road 581 also known as Bruce be Downs between 56 and 54 and then all of State Road 54 from Bruce be Downs to us301 the uh map on the screen shows you the limits of the jurisdictional trans transfer and I should say we are taking jurisdiction not ownership I had our County attorney staff correct me on my language previously we are taking accepting jurisdictional responsibility uh want to mention too as part of this agreement what I'm calling do parting gifts there will be three different projects that will be accomplished by the Department of Transportation by fot after the transfer occurs they are going to be resurfacing Bruce be Downs they're going to be resurfacing a portion of uh State Road 54 at the West End and they're going to be resurfacing a portion of State Road 54 at the East End also wanted to mention that they had recently completed earlier this um actually this past calendar year they completed the widening to four lanes of the middle section of 54 so we're getting a facility a set of facilities that are in very good condition as a result of this transfer agreement I do have a question um where are we on the widening of um W Chapel Boulevard oh no that's bo be down never mind but I do have that question but we so Wesley Chapel Boulevard the widening west of I75 is under construction okay it Madam chair yeah this is awesome well I don't know if it's awesome or not cuz the next resurfacing we're going to have to take care of so I'm just we are roads we're trading 56 for all of this but I mean why why would I don't understand why 581 is in the mix 581 goes north south and goes all the way down I know they have this trade thing that happens we did that it's not a mile for mile but what I think what you end up with is the agreement that was established to construct 50 6 as a continuous corridor from Bruce be Downs to 301 was in exchange for the removal of this continuous Corridor which is a combination of two roads so was it was a preset up trade so it it was an established trade in exchange for the construction of 56 maintain Bruce be downs we already maintained Bruce be Downs to I mean south of the County Line south south to the county line is already ours okay yes yeah then that's why but we're getting in good shape okay um so do I need to take public comment on this one yes we have one person signed up Rachel uh Torres okay

come on up Rachel Rachel Torres 9907 Woodstock Lane Port Richie Florida 34668 and I West SW thank you I'm a student at St B Petersburg College pursuing a degree in public policy Administration the proposed transfer abortions of State Road 54 and State Road 581 from the Florida Department of Transportation to our County represents a significant opportunity for local governance and development by assuming responsibility for these roadways we grin greater Independence in planning decision making that directly impacts our infrastructure this means we can make timely decisions without needing State approval allowing us to respond more effectively to the needs of our residents and businesses such control is essential for implementing improvements that enhance traffic flow safety and accessibility these transitions align with the vision for expanding residential communities within the area with direct oversight of these roadways we can better integrate Transportation Planning with residential development ensuring new neighborhoods are well connected and supported by by adequate infrastructure addressing housing shortages is a critical priority and having the ability to Streamlight the development process will enable us to create more housing options efficiently this will provide much needed relief to families seeking homes for to and contribute to the overall growth and vitality of our community having jurisdiction over these roadways allows us to implement traffic flow improvements tailored specifically to our community needs we can prioritize projects that reduce congestion enhance safety and improve overall mobility of our residents effective traffic management will not only make daily commute smoother but also support economic activity by ensuring goods and services can move more freely through the county this proactive approach to traffic planning will contribute to a higher quality of life for our residents and make our community more attract attractive to potential new residents and businesses overall the transfer of these roadways is a pival step towards building a stronger more connected and more liveable County thank you well done thank you very much Madam chair hey Rachel before you go Angel would you stand up here for a second I just want to tell you a little bit about these two right here when when the storms was coming in and uh I was going around the first morning of it and I got stuck doing from like three different things and I got to a fourth place where I had the 97y old veteran and 99-year-old Veteran um the day before angel had said to me he says you know if you need any help let me know so after about probably hour and a half or two of my own just tear tearing out carpet and whatever I called them up they were there with like 15 minutes they stayed with me for the whole day till dark wow back the next day to finish the job off

with these two veterans could live in their house without any any Interruption whatsoever they then helped all through the weeks coming up through the Eagles SE Ranch whatever was needed they were there and I just want to thank you guys publicly for what you did so thank thank you very much good job okay so I'll take is there anyone else take a motion Mo approval second all in favor I iOS okay that and our public hearings for doing good commissioner thank you and we're on to you commissioner got your commissioner items board reports I'm going to take a long time here plenty of time um let's see what I'm going to have here first I've got several things this week um had the opportunity to 2025 emergency service Emergency Services um recognition ceremony they had this week in Newport Richie uh where you it recognizes those that do exceptional in the 9/11 service area um several winners in that but actually actually spoke and I wouldn't go to speak until I guess after but I wasn't very clear when I was supposed to speak but I took the chance to speak first so I actually thanked each and every one of them for the work they do for our citizens and um it it was a great thing that we U we were able to thank them and see what they do in their job it's 911 you never know what call you're going to get but we have exceptional leaders in amongst the group but always because I spoke first I didn't know who won any of the items but the fact of it is I felt the same about each and every one of them doing the best job they can at 911 so but there were a lot of good leaders and potential leaders in the future no matter who takes that next call so job well done I couldn't do that job but they do it very well so I was glad to be able to be there uh also I had a a tour out to M along with the rest of you to to view what was going on at M with the development and update there in land lakes and uh we did that on last Friday so very very good info very good uh feedback on on what what we approved and what we're looking for in the future and you know it's pretty amazing that when you take what do you call that is it pro proton proton yeah therapy yeah that therapy it pinpoints down to the size of a dime which in previous radiation treatments and all for cancer it would do larger areas which when it does that larger area it kills good sales along with the bad sales this this type service will be where it takes care of individual spots that that need to be done and also they're in the future they're going to be uh making U sale production so and I don't know how that works but it's very exciting to think that they could put sales in where some of this happens it would fill in on person's body that had been in terrible cancer issues so very very U very good for the future of of Pasco County of that coming in and along with all that you got all these new H hospitals and

things coming forward Advent putting 124 beds at um Sun Coast and fidget 4 on that South Southwest corner there uh they're they have a nice Clinic been doing a good job there they're at 124 Bed Hospital hospital to that clinic and it will be well needed with all the growth and all the citizens we're bringing into to our County um nothing thing also uh I'll give you an update on our I didn't know if I'd have anything on Tamp Bay water but we were talking yesterday about uh about our water issues and we were taking U water that's permitted like on agmart property out in for the central and for also U production of grass and for all that in the that would move that's basically a farm product but we're taking those Wells and moving that pumping uh approval there over to different areas in Tampa Bay Waters area that we actually are able to pump more water and get more water for for our people because they had an a awell right yeah those were agws and they were moving that like if they had 500,000 gallons of production they would they would close that off there but move it to another area that they could pump out of so I think it was about 7 700,000 or 7 up to about six or 7 million eventually when you add all that up it really Master a lot of water I get tired of hearing it from our citizens in public comment the gentleman that came up I I know he has issues to worry about certain things but the fact of it is we're not out of water we're doing a lot of things at Tampa Bay water to like this to provide more water for our citizens and we have water the only people I know of in the past or short past that ever said anything about um being short of water and Out of Water was Ze city of zepher Hills which is a city of pure water which doesn't make sense they they really made a mistake because they got people thinking they don't have water anymore and it's going all over the county the fact of it is they have we've offered them um Mike and myself and and I think David Allen at time we met with the city of e Hills and offered them pretty much all the water they would need in future so we have water in the future and there's there's Promises of making Dil better we'll get more water out of that eventually if we go to saltwater Wells it'll have to take salt out but they're very deep Wells and provide water cleaner cheaper to use in desal than what we do now so those are those are projects we're looking at in the future and even another Reservoir a reservoir I think is at 15.4 billion gallons as of yesterday I think think they were going to hit the 15.5 B is what it holds but that's pretty close but you we can copy we have the land out there to copy that Reservoir and I think that's one of our better projects we need to be doing for the future of our our County so have they it's really Tri County actually yeah um do we know what's going to happen with the Howard Curran water that's been dumping into the bay yet who's on the you guys are on the they're

both on that yeah any answers from the that one yet no I hadn't heard anything about that well what when's our deadline couple years yeah be a couple years well I'll give you what I gave because I commented on that yeah and uh can add it's it's tough when you're sitting the board with commissioner Oakley he's always jumping in there right away but always always good information we'll get to you then on yours and you can mention that got two or three years years to choose the next projects that will actually add water to our present system right today a lot of people don't realize that that 15.5 billion gallon Reservoir you can pump into it 200 million gallons a day and you use out of it 200 million gallons that's what our Tri County Area is actually using now that it's 200 water system is about 200 million gallons yep a day so so men sure if you want just tie right into what he's saying because so the Howard car plant when I mentioned that and that's like 55 million G day going in they're having trouble with seagrass into the bay uh they're having trouble with seagrass uh was good for a while so it's Advanced wastewater treatment but I said with all this development going on as you see on the map here I says for years we've tried to get you to let us take that reclaim water swing it up to Pasco rehydrate yeah and to me it's even better for them because now Mother Nature does the work the water flows back down the extra water flows that would go out of the rivers would actually help them without having to a thing instead of spending money but I says at least at a minimum you guys should the city of Tampa and Hillsboro should work together to find out if we're going to need more water let's go run a pipe from there to Southern hillsb and put the water right where you need it and you'll put in those developments coming in so they told me they had to struggle with the developers actually bring in in reclaim water I said well I says come work with our staff we'll show you how you to do it because they want it they like it they're having issues with uh well a lot of that that's inside the city of Tampa and all there's a lot of concrete a lot of streets it's hard for them to put pipe in in those areas but they got to have the thought that they bring that reclaim down to these new developments and have them put in that pipe which we do in our our County they're not doing that don't seem to get the idea that they can do that but it's there for them to do I told actually told them and Jack was right behind me speaking but he I was saying basically we kind of echoed him on the fact that send your reclaim water to us CU for oh yeah we'll take it it takes four homes it takes four homes for one home to water with reclaimed water we our parks department doesn't have enough extra reclaimed water so if you don't mind commissioner just while we're tagging in the stair so I patched out the flyer my carb got one as well so one of the things the hillsb county did was they sold the water rights to tempay

water yes so go go to your second page and it shows you that the actual groundwater use was 300 144 gallons per day uh flip to page three and it shows you that the quantity required is 344 they're getting paid for that quantity $1.2 million from Tampa Bay water now when I saw that I had voted against the project from before because I knew they didn't always take our water stuff and I thought we were overpaying for the water last month um um and I says there's there's a problem there but I looking at this I thought a little bit more about it I say you know we had jazz Lakes Palm Terrace Aqua utilities that we bought it we had a couple of bad Wells there and I talked to them about taking it over they said no we don't really need it we don't want it now those are water rights that can be used in tripled to the center part of the the county if we use them but they didn't they didn't take it from us but we're buying it from hillsbor we bought it from like it too was one of the companies and another land owners I says well why aren't we looking at buying from Pasco County too I said we should be benefiting from this I said matter of fact I've got the f2a properties up and down down the coast which we should want to buy anyway that would actually save our citizens a lot of money so when we're done with that um they said they talk about it with us uh and then I talked to the uh gentleman from us water uh who done all the conversions for us and I talked to those guys in the back they go there's actually well credits you can probably get and get reimbursed for lindri system so think about that we get money from Aqua we can get money from lindri that's going to tee us up to go buy a whole bunch more and all these other utilities are well money money they getting $1.2 million but Tampa Bay Waters buying their water rights for 1.2 million but we bought lendri in aqua so what there's still water rights that are in that system oh so we can get so we still pump with those Wells no I don't I don't think we switch those to to Regions but there's benefit because you got the permit the permits the value permits have value permits have value there's the money and I think we should be looking at that and then when we look at like the systems n Florida uh Lando Lakes Heritage Lakes let's go look at all the ones down in 19 and let's go get the value and find out what it is and let's go put a bigger plan together to buy out the rest of the f2a show I would like to do that I'm going to be bringing that up in my discussions we got to wait on me to finish so yeah that's that's what I want to talk about you wanted you want present adding on that good I'm not finished so yeah commissioner star you want a presentations you got them yeah no I'm glad I mean we need to know what's going on so then we also at the end of today yesterday we um we went and met with u the folks over at ACA um to let you know we actually ran into the

CEO uh Mike irvan and we talked to him for a while and actually uh he knows people I know from down in pop County uh it was very good conversation and all a lot of people don't know it I didn't know it till yesterday they pay $48 million in ad B tax to Pasco County yeah cuz they're a for-profit I had this discussion with them yesterday they're for and he also reached out that said he would be willing to team up with us and I let Mike know that to have a meeting with him to team up to help with some projects so I that's financial help it's not that's good and but very good hospital but one thing he wanted me to ask if we could do it is set up where all the commissioners and what staff you want to but to go to Aca and get a tour of their hospital he asked if we would no it's right here oh the the new one HCA little no right there at little and Trinity HCA oh my mom died my mom was there she didn't die there she died at home I've been there yeah right but yeah he's invited us to go all go as a tour and I told him I'd present that today yeah I don't mind going again so if we can set that up with Mike's group and Joanna that'd be great all right I'm done okay very good all right I'll start with my committee report from Spring Coast steering committee so the way the funding Works within the spring Coast steering committee um we have the presentation mik or who's going to kind of go through the this scoring bramford so there's two different kind of pots of money so with with CFI funding and other funding there's there's a little bit of money in the long term hang on Seth are we going to see something up on the screen we Bor I have it oh you have it yeah we just go we can just go we can just yeah I'm sorry okay so anyway so there's until so right now the money in CFI is pretty much on hold right dimin amount because there's 600 million invested in this South Hillsburg County transmission line project that Swift Mud invested in and the pul regional Cooperative where they're looking for their water because their water is is brackish in the center of the county and so the funding is has died down quite a bit so the Cooperative funding initiative funds are cap at about 2 and a half million a year where everybody who's in the southwest florid Water Management District is competing for that 2 and a half million on the project oh so much and then there's an additional uh in their longterm funding plan it also cludes uh about 6 million a year for Springs projects in the Norther region the the what they call the uh the the bmap or the Basin management action plan which is where the septic to sewer projects are happening predominantly largely but that's in Citrus and Hernando right but good news is I send it to link the link to Mike through FTE uh there's a there's a a grants um link for different projects that we can apply for and Mike has that and he can Cascade that to you all um in when he sends it out or if he

wants to if y'all want it so there were a handful of projects submitted uh this year for Springs funding uh and the only two applicants this year were Pasco and Hernando and Pasco has submitted for three projects and Hernando submitted for two our predominant project is the Westley Chapel wastewater treatment plant expansion phase one and this is the highest scoring project that the committee reviewed which ultimately we review and it goes back to the district governing board and then they'll they'll vote on it and we rank number one because this is removing 27,600 out of that system nice and um so that's part of the reason why it ranked really high um and as they went through the funding our score on that project was 105 points which ranked it high and our other two projects ranked four and five of the five projects and they were they ranked medium um but they'll likely not make the cut and that's the air air Pica septic to sewer project that scored 62 that's the lowest points and then the Wiki watchy septic to sewer project was scored 82 um and then Hernando's private package plant connections which is over near the Springs as 89 and um District a Hernando County District a phase one I'm not really sure what that is think it's in residential committee that that scored 94 so depending on what the governing board says which is where our staff comes in because our staff presents there could be a potential for the lower rank Pasco projects but for sure we have District seemly District staff support for the waste water treatment plant how much how much were we asking for on that one so we are asking does who who who out there knows what we're asking here I've got I was going to ask Ado to come for my handy binder so the total project cost is 9 million uh and 7 million requested in fiscal year 26 with a $2 million applicant share only 2 million so it's not a 50/50 not not for these but the interesting piece of this I'll let staff get to it we have more dates review where is it that we we'll get to you on there where is it make that so when do they pick these so the schedule there's there's a schedule so the schedule goes so the steering committee dates um that's for next year's so we just met so the final evaluations for approval are on a on February 19th and then um July 9th uh is the approval of the funding process so that's about halfway through the through the year and I think in here we had a price per ton I think it was about $11 if I correct so our price per ton which makes this is big reason why it's going to score it scor so high so the money's invested it's going to cost us $11 per ton to remove nitrogen which is in my

time with swift M here I don't think I've seen a price at low per ton or remove nitrogen out of out of the system but anyway guy he a lot smarter than me's up here so I'll let you take it away go ahead good afternoon commissioners adul Gonzalez utilities engineering and contract management director now we apply for two grants on behalf of pastel County one was a $9 million Springs Grant which is the one commissioner wait may just finish talking about the other one was a $7 million Grant from Southwest Florida water manager District uh on the and that's for the Wesley Center project which is a 45 million gallon per day expansion of the existing treatment facility the total project cost we think is going to be around $28 million the $9 million covers the design portion in this fiscal year we've spread out that cost over the next four fiscal years okay so we're getting ready for a future massive expansion okay I was wondering where we were getting our matching dollars but it's only for the design and so we don't have to do 50/50 on that so that's good no The Cooperative funding initiative the rules it's it's shovel ready project so that's what helps score but until you know the the expansion is done down in South Hillsboro which is we voted on it yeah when I was on the governing board then till that one's done the P Regional water supply Cooperative in manota river and others the funding will be limited but the good thing is there's ability for us to get started yeah if our team puts together the right projects and submits in the right ways and plus team up talking with Mandy rice um assistant executive director Swift Mud with the D grants portal so for our grants team so we might be able to shake the tree and good get some more money for water infrastructure out of it I think commissioner Mariana wants to comment on the ARA septic yeah I heard about see this um sure but I I heard that with the Lando Lakes one we were ranked very high and then right below it what I thought was the Sea Pines project that it would actually bring both those projects where they should be funded and just with with the governor signature so you're tell me something different Springs go but that's Ara no it's not the same that's the all right so you just you just want arica yeah that's cuz that's in that zone that covers the Bap yeah it's the B map area is and the funding that was set us came down from Tallahassee is pretty much designated yeah right in that zone for that to be in that bull so let me ask step so this one here is this arer does that include Sea Pines or not I don't think so no I think you know that was part of wilting and all them cleaning up Crystal River and all those Springs all along that edge my recollection oh there we go the Newbie commissioner Marana no the the AR DEA Grant request did not include Sea Pines SE Pines was part of a different Grant application package that was um bundled

with the storm water Improvement for the area as well so maybe it's a different thing we're talking okay thank you all right so my next my next I have a couple more items first like thank senator fadoo for inviting us out to his groundbreaking at um thein angelene on the north side of 52 it's going to be a nice facility uh Mr Rea actually I think either sold the land at a discount or gave it gave it to uh tax collector worked out a deal for the site and it'll be a great area to service our folks and always does a great job in serving not just Pasco but other folks who come in need taxpayer Services uh two other pieces I'll save I'll save one because these might get lengthy so on our tax discussion um I didn't find the right place to put it but I told with Amy Mike about this I think it's time that we broach the 40% of new Revenue that goes to the Sheriff's Department every year and I've talked to the Chase and the sheriff about this or chase about it Sheriff I think it's time that we look at as we're looking at mstu or how you want to structure the budget we're really handcuffed with just giving 40% off the off the top there's no secret that I personally I want to give meaning meaningful tax breakes to our taxpayer and I'm sure you all have different opinion what that money can be used for or not be used for but I like to structure it differently and explore uh a law enforcement mstu um um and I think it's time we do that expl for all the constitutionals with the exception of the taxpayer and here's why I think if it it bothers me a bit that the constitutionals they're elected and they have budgets but yet they have no control of their budget and we've seen over the years issues with the clerk office when I came on and back forth the sheriff and what they want needs are I think if a constitutional wants a tax increase then they need to make a business case and say I need more money and why instead of the onus just necessarily being on this board I think everybody who you know this board's a fiduciary right and we're it's our number one job to be a fiduciary to the taxpayer monies that we take from them with no choice of their own I think it's time if we set up an mstu and understand the cost to Mar commission Mar's point of if we if we look at mstu if it's worth doing for the smaller budgets like the property appraiser the tax collector what that mean from municipalities right what we what that make what we may lose if it's even worth doing but I think it's time that that we potentially look at this idea that way those constitutionals I think it gives them more control over their budget and more say so hey I need an increase for this or that or the other and they make a business case to this board or future boards and um so I'd be curious to explore that during this budget cycle what that may look like uh um and get the others other constitutionals to to to see and I think it give them more you know more Hands-On with with with their budgets um and it

just be I think potentially a cleaner accounting um and so I wanted to bring that up for discussion if there was any other thoughts on that well I have some questions but I'll go to my board first um I have made my points about the mstu how I feel about it um I think if you're going to go to a tax increase in any form at all you need to put a lot of information out there we we don't get a lot of information with the sheriff's budget I think penel County gets like a 900 page document going discuss we we get like 12 Pages 15 pages so if you really want to get to it that should what we get into uh I I don't I don't mind the discussion because I keep on seeing emails like we're we've got 60 we're ranked 62 out of 67 counties for the number deputies got well that doesn't looking at the whole budget so if you want to look at everything it opens it up um it's worthy of discussion so um I don't know what that means um with it with taking the whole their whole budget to an mstu um does do businesses pay for mstu is it just residents but it takes out the cities takes out the cities so again I guess I'll learn a lot more when we talk about the parks budget but my my Challenge and my discussions with the sheriff are that I feel um kind of echoing what you're saying commission Mariano that we don't get we don't get to understand their budget like we understand ours and um I would very much like them to participate in the budget process the same way our our County departments do so that we can um you know there's just more transparency I agree 900 Pages versus 12 and I think he's agreeable to that I had a discussion with him and um uh you know if it if it like he thinks it will and most most likely will end up with them getting more money then they're they're willing to take those steps because they feel they're they're underfunded and when you look at the total amount we give them versus other counties it certainly is less so but we just don't have that understanding of where all the money's going and and you know is is everything being run as efficiently as possible and I think it's a good thing to have eyes on to to let the public and and others have eyes on how the money is being spent um that's a responsibility we have to the taxpayers and um that but our constitutionals don't have to peel that back um so uh I don't know what that means to take all of their budget to an to you but again I guess we'll have those discussions when we do some kind of workshop on if we want to take the parks that way um what are the pros and cons is there anyone else I know Hillsboro County I think funds their Parks through mstu multiple mstu does anyone else fund their constitutionals through mstu I don't know but I just it's it's basically the mstu will grow as the county you know as the County grows and the tax Pace grows so it's incremental I also view the mstu as a way to protect the sheriff's budget and all the constitutionals budget you have we saw a

couple years ago my first budget cycle which I'm sure don't start shaking uh that the one I brought my magazine to but remember dinner when when we we made we made the decision to give everybody haircut and it was a drop of a hat the board made a decision with unintendedly it cut the sheriff budget 600k that's how quickly say in the future you prepare for the future right this board makeup is very different and they might potentially have a rub with law enforcement that defund the police officers with mstu I view it as as a stop Gap there's multiple you know public hearing to change it you have to go through multiple public hearing schedules it gives the people who support law enforcement opportunity several times to come and speak to the board versus just the board unilaterally making a cut right with no say necessarily to the public I view mstu differently and use a certain way because it like in the same that same premise goes with Parks it helps protect what that money is used for for in my opinion a true generational funding fix and it slows the role of maybe emotional decision-making because of the process where you really have to be methodical in the decisions that you make because of the structure and so I think for budget as large as the sheriff's office for example I think for the long-term health of the department and for future sheriffs it gives them uh a more more confidence and the ability to project for their budget needs in the future based on growth uh but also you know if they also want to come back to the board and say hey I need a tax increase I need more money it's going to be making a business case for a true tax increase with multiple hearings so then the public gets deceived versus just unilaterally raising it and I think that's a very good exercise that government should go through especially with large ticket items um and so then that's the same again the same premise to the parks or anytime we use it and I think it's important that commissioner Mar points we understand if we lose the municipalities if we go that route what that what that means but we might lose upfront but in the long term just like with the fire mstu that fund is growing very healthfully very quickly and it's funding dshift and everything else the same thing would happen it would compound the fund going going forward and then there wouldn't be this you know potential conflict between the board and constitutionals over their funding it would also give the opportunity for constitutionals like for example if we went up mstu for the supervisor of elections and the property P's office they the need they have the ability to come and say hey roll back my mstu and then they have the ability have Ka lower the taxes because they don't need as much so you know it's just a different way of looking at it for me it's in my excitement over the budget it's it's a restructuring of the budget in a way that really Narrows down what the funds

are for and for me in my opinion it adds more transparency to those dollars um but that's just my take on it and i' I'd really like to see what all that means and what's the best fit for Pasco County and so we need an mstu Workshop sounds like yeah so hopefully I made some sense who knows all what else you got there um another thing so I've been chewing on this for a while the prayer we do in the morning I don't like I think it's I think it's awful and if we're going to have a prayer I think we need a real prayer the clerk made a real nice prayer a couple years ago at um uh the Y MCA prayer breakfast and so I don't know if there's an appetite to change that prayer we have a second Vice chair rotate a chaplain every year like Hillsboro does but I think it's time as I think we all are you know with our belief system that it it's time to not have such a benign paragraph whatever you want to call that um and I'm hopeful that there might be a opportunity to say a real heartfelt prayer every morning for this County and for the work that that we do and the people that work here commissioner Oakley then commissioner Jer I'd like uh Jeff to speak a minut it's been this way we have it now it's been that way for many years and it was because there was issues in having I guess a pastor before to be able to give that prayer the prayer we have now is a good prayer the prayer is not based on any religion that's where I am with it and that's that I think is a reason to leave it like it is yeah I don't mind if you want to change the words and say something different as long as it encompasses all the religions that are represented in our community I'm looking for the most part I'm looking to see a Christian faith Grace prayer and as the other counties do there's a chaplain they say a prayer it's not whatever this is uh in our County and it still be read by the clerk or a board member I can't do that we have we have other religions represented up here here so no I'm I'm not okay with that why would I want to I'm bringing it up for discussion I'm just telling you what I think about it it's just because it's been some been something the way it's been for a long time doesn't mean it's right I think you've seen that with me in in this like I want to see something different I I was thinking that the same thing even as as far as maybe having like um you know a different Pastor or something in the community um at our board meetings so here's the challenge because in my mind we'd have to rotate the different faiths um and then you open it up to some that maybe you don't want to be up here um and I don't know if we can legally say okay we'll have a rabbi we'll have uh what are they called in the Muslim faith I don't even know but in the legislature mom we'll have uh Christian Catholic or whatever Protestant and then we're going to have the saint and worshipper and this and the that and we don't want to open I don't want to open that door the in the state legislature they have a a someone

lead the prayer and it's just a non- denominational prayer that's what we do we do a non-denominational he's saying to do a Christian prayer that prayer that we rais Norm I mean it is it is a Christian prayer and they they they will pick the pastor they will introduce that this person Pastor whoever I think they have rabbis too up there if I'm not mistaken I think there are Jewish members of of the legislature and they they get to be represented to I I I would ask my County attorney here when you open the door how wide do you have to open it at Swift Mud Madam we say a prayer before Swift Mud each board memb says a pledge in the prayer and it's a prayer and I don't want some daggum attorney telling me what we can and can't do this board can make in a decision and make what we want to do he can give his opinion but Hillsboro has a chaplain and we have a that's a better way than what this is um commissioner Maran did you want to speak before the county attorney or you want I would and if you take a look at the state legislature even like in their Opening Ceremonies they'll have like three different uh pastors and not pastors but one person religious folks then they'll all say prayer and you look at look at just what happened in inauguration started off with a rabbi then two other um religious folks were up there I don't see what the problem is and if you're going to set it up others are doing it um I think it would mean more if you did have a person doing it as well and if the president can do it if the state legisl legislature can do it if Port Richie can do it there's no reason we can't do it and I want to see it done as well okay County attorney Madam chairman I mean I the the prayer that you are saying now was developed in 2006 by the prior County attorney um it was designed to comply with federal law and the decisional things that had come out from the from the Supreme Court at that time there have been changes over the years um but you are still governed by the law that is controlling from the 11th circuit and and the bravard county as I have said to this board before Bard County got in trouble for allowing its board members to have religious prayer before the board meetings um what would the current Supreme Court do I have no idea um but the uh and there is nothing that says that you can't have a religious prayer as long as you have as long as you um rotate faiths um you would have to I I have right I have seen no I have seen nothing that says that a local government can have a faith-based chaplain to give all all of its invocations um in fact that seems to squarely go against what the 11th circuit decided in

The Bard County case um you know I Mr County attorney yes sir Madam chair so we're not looking for I don't think a prayer I think it's the problem with what we have is just it's so such a generic thing that it doesn't do much what we're looking for I think is a series of different people that can come up and pray and let them just pray whatever they want to say you you can you can set up such a system that would be that would pass the pass the tests of that have been promulgated so far in federal law the problem with that is it's all deny and in fact some of the what you would consider to be non denominations are also have have to be given an opportunity process would open up and we would obviously have to manage that process and maintain Equity as as that goes so if I may I've had the opportunity to sit on this desk longer than anyone here uh I'll i'llbe it unofficially and filling in but going back to 1977 I've been sitting in these board meetings and uh at different points in time and there was rotation of Commissioner of ministers and pastors and it was a logistical nightmare uh at the time uh of course at the time we the board met almost weekly in most cases four times a month um and uh but uh it Logistics plays a big role in that as the uh as uh attorney Steiner was saying and balancing and it got awkward at points in time and therefore it went in the direction of now I do I disagree that it needs to probably be updated or refreshed no I I agree with you because I'm the guy reading it you know along with u clerk Alvarez Souls but uh the purpose is again is ecumenical um and uh the rotation of pastors and ministers opened a myriad of issues in the past Hillsboro has a board chap just like second Vice chair or whatever and it's just and that person reads or thinks about something and says something that's you know it's human and I like that style and at Swift Mud when we did it we just went down the order of the 13 governing board members hey it's your turn to say the prayer and pledge you want to do it some would say yes some would say no it was a nice way to kick off a meeting it wasn't robotic and cold like this statement why not but it was controlled by the this body by the body it wasn't out in the public which I think is a better probably a better fit to be you know amongst this body and not do we want to have um some new um um prayers or whatever we're calling itay um opening prayer um brought to our attention to vote on to change and update it there's a nice one mik you have the clerks uh I think just for we don't have to decide it today fourth reading this is early conversation okay well I don't have anything I think it's a nice I think it's a nice way to retailor what we have going on with clerk alvare Souls prayer remarks and prayer breakfast okay I'm I'm good to refresh what we say

but I just don't want to open that door to revolving show up here personally um so but I'm I'm so if you have some things just email them to us maybe get three send three to us and if you guys find any that you like or something that said somewhere else that moves you a little more send it to all of us and we can take a vote on it me throw a more de out I think the uh Pastor the pastors have said they would actually coordinate all this for us as well you could put a committee together to I don't I don't want to open that door because we when you open that door it's a wide opening yeah and why do we want to put ourselves and the public to that because we elected office there are there are there are some that would come up here that you don't want to hear what they have to I mean I don't want to um right commissioner Oakley yeah that's I mean I don't know why you want to go that way if you're going to do it that way I'll I'll step in when it's all over yeah same I'm just not going to be part of that um but we can improve what we say for sure you could have a a time of Silence that you say a prayer yourself to yourself yeah and there are places that do it like that but I'd rather I'd rather try the let's get see if we can get a bet some better something a refresh um I think once you say the same thing over and over again too much maybe it's gets it is stale it get stale yeah yeah and that it's been a long time it has zero meaning stale one is made it has no meaning it doesn't even make sense well the words have a lot of meaning if you but they like you say they've been used so long too much yeah that they're kind of vanilla it's lost it's lost yeah I'm glad you brought that up we we could refresh that all right thank you that's all no more no more Jer all right so just a quick update on human trafficking board um they are working on their strategic plan and budgeting um thinking they're going to need a little more money for 2026 to push some TV ads um at Prime Time spots to get the messaging out and also just making sure that they are hitting all the places need be like hotels hospitals any things we're not thinking of um to make sure we're getting our messaging and branding out um so that's that's for the board um this I gave everybody a copy um there's been a recent alterations in the Florida statue regarding Towing vehicles and vessels that may warrant a review of the County's resolution 22-1 188 which among other things establishes maximum towing rates for disabled Vehicles as such I would like to ask my fellow board members to agree to the County Attorney work with staff to review and update the resolution 22188 as necessary to ensure compliance with the statutes and update to establish rates for anary services that are not currently covered under the resolution so basically there's um tow truck people they're picking up um items uh for free and not getting

paid for them so we just want we just want to make sure so I gave everybody the the compensation sheet but if we could uh re at that that would be great um and my commissioner items I'll try and go super quick um the chair asked me to speak at the USF reach program so as a guest speaker and that stands for regen of leadership empowerment for the advancement of Community Health this remarkable 6 to eth month leadership course brings together participants from Hillsboro pellis Pasco County Department of healths along with various Community Partners to strengthen leadership skills and Advance public health during my presentation I spoke about local policymaking and emphasized the critical role of collaboration between public health organizations and Community leaders we discuss the importance of creating in inclusive policies that address the unique needs of each community and how working together can amplify the impact of Public Health efforts so that was very interesting and then the the um the kids presented the students presented um their projects and we gave them feedback it was um very interesting so next slide so um this I love this slide so much um this gentleman down there with the with the fire hat he is a veteran and um he was getting um he basically was working for free just to get Shel so he wasn't able to make any money because the it would be cover his housing so um I hooked him up with um Kathy and the veterans and um he is being uh he was in a hotel for a few months so he was able to save money and now he has his own place so um I partnered with firefighter Charities and this was so cool because we came blazing with sirens on and the neighbors were all peeking out there Windows seeing what's going on and he was blessed with um things for his home so he he was just so moved and um it was just like this beautiful moment that I wish everybody could be there so his name is Dwayne and um he he served in the Navy and um he's on his feet and doing amazing so awesome thank you to firefighter Charities thank you to Kathy yep and um just Pasco proud what's that other fell you help Bob Bob what's his name you helped them in the storm oh they look like brothers no they're not no I was wondering if that was him no I have all my little friends one day I'll give an update on all of them so I still keep in touch with them and see them all and um they're all doing great but this gentleman we um we've kind of been mentoring him we'd have him over like uh twice a month for for dinner and things like that so it's been great having see his life uh come full circle so some people bring in straight pets and she brings straight people I do I love people I'm glad Bread's I like to say I'm glad Brad's in the picture so he knows what's going on sry um Madam chair yes commissioner Mariana commissioner you want to make a motion for this yeah can we make a motion

to would it be to receive and file my um should have the County Attorney look at have the County Attorney look at the ordinance for the toe telling second you can yeah I in favor I took it as as general consensus from the board but motion is fine okay at these changes I apologize you had you had brought the new legislation to me and then we got storms and get back to it no worries mind dro the ball $1800 to tow that big these people are for free hi okay all in favor I okay so the so there was an issue that was raised and I can if we're going to go down this path that the that doesn't isn't covered by the statute um apparently there are several of the towing companies Guardian is one of them that is picking up things at off right of way at our Direction and then they're going to the their yards and being stored for free does that too I think and then they get rid of them um um so the question is how does the board want to deal with that because if Public Works is asking them to tow and it goes to the yard and then they hold it and they dispose of it at their cost right so that but that becomes your general fund liability I'm if it's not their their liability and I I just don't know where the board wants or do we you want us to come back with options on that I would mind some options because I had a situation where we had some people that were doing work for volunteer during the storm over at se Ranch they had the vehicle in the Walmart parking lot the Walmart parking lot manager did not ask them to tow it and they towed it away on them and they hit him for like a bill of a thousand bucks so I don't mind looking a look at everything anyway in case other things come up we'll I'll talk with the administration we'll come back with it with some sort of a proposal to deal with that issue good and also can maybe when we're looking at that the the people that um tow we were talking about rotation yeah where they're just like piranha the second somebody goes in the store it's like they tow their vehicle and um it happened to someone I know and they were like well it's $300 cash so they were trying to you know they're they have all this revenue and they're not even claiming it because they're making people pay cash when really you should have three forms of payment I never pay cash just so they because people don't report that to IRS and they put it in their pocket yeah okay never pay cash at the dry cleaners that's my little tip there we'd like to clarify the record for the direction on that last uh attorney stn the motion that was passed I think we're looking for clarification on that or didn't catch it in the car so the discussion so it would be update the update the ordinance to comply with statute and to um provide uh update the resolution to provide for costs that they potentially

can recover if the county um asks for their services okay thank you okay commissioner Marana okay do you have my pictures so at Tamp Bay Water it was kind of neat we had a little presentation on the water rewards um happy to say the Pas education the education school education board got a uh an award now first time I've seen him do that there was a presentation done with um with the Tampa Bay butterfly foundation and they do work all over the region and uh my thinking was they part of the money they got for the grant is to go spend money on plants that make butterflies come around and I thought it was something where I reached out to her and I said I'd like to reach out with you maybe try to give you some funding uh to help you with our tree mitigation fund where it can actually if those plants fit that maybe we can help um work with you in Pasco County so uh I'm going to give it to the administrator to take a look at it but that's a flyer what they got on there but nice presentation and again Tampe water looked at it they likeed the program so they enhanced it so I think it's a good idea an opportunity coming up I'm going to mention to the school board as well as the uh there was a Marine Academy too that got a sponsorship of money too we've got an academy I think we should be looking for that next year as well but um so I brought up earlier when we talking about the homeless population as far as Brazilian peppers is there a will for the board to actually look at putting it in ordinance I know I think Hernando County did one and maybe we only make it we only enforce it when we're having these homeless issues when we decide to uh well I think we need to start going after um just like the kogan grass you know Hernando County you cannot have Brazilian pepper on your property and we have turned our backs to it and we so therefore it's spreading spreading spreading so so so I I think last so last time we brought this up we get in a whole myria now it's bringing coming back to to me now we get to a whole bunch of other things I want to just isolate in Brazilian peppers and keep it at that so we're already doing kogan grass so I would add it to it and that's good so let's do do kogan grass but just add Brazilian Peppers not get into that whole at are two pages of documents of other things but and then if we can en force it we'll say if you've got homeless people we're going to make you enforce it and or choose choose our strategy from there but maybe have staff bring us back something so I'll make a motion staff brings back something about Brazilian pepper ordinances that we look to implement I would so specifically can I ask clarification here um this is to Outlaw these I mean eradicate within x amount of time so and if they don't it's a code violation and then we want to set a procedure but yeah bring something back along the L okay and so this is

just for eradication it's not to go on to private property and eradicate I'm just trying to no but they're going to have to get rid of it eventually I mean we would treat it like a pool fence or something like that I well we can work the details out but no I don't I don't think that the commissioner is asking the county to go in and remove the Brazilian pepper it would be in areas that could cause a brush fire that it's not being controlled on understood on the property I was second or that allow people to hide behind live behind it I deliberately didn't just what said okay oh anything else that's all I have think oh actually one more thing so motion oh a motion second second all in favor I okay so just today I got a notice from someone who was with the company that took over n Florida where they were charging them wrong and they what Florida n Florida it's it's now another company I think BL utility so in this they found out that they were in violation of the Florida administrative code rules and its tariff so I'd like to probably work with David and um Mike to kind of look at what are the violations may have been going on there's like three of them on here and I want to try to do an awareness to the people out there that this private utility has been trouble for many many years all they do is sewer and no water their rates are like triple what our rates are are very detrimental to the area and we've tried to buy them before bought bam and sold n wouldn't sell to us and I sold to another company that company would try to get to them uh they still wouldn't sell to us so I want to go go to the public and find out what other how they've been treated what they've been going through and if I can get if I see there's more and more violations I want to forward them all to the PSC to create to create a record and file and give these people some leverage would it be more more appropriate for your office to handle that Jack versus just I can but I might need some coaching as far as like things to look at okay thank you that's all I have okay uh County Administrator uh thank you madam chair I guess I just want to first thank the board sincerely uh for the conversation we had around the budget today I thought it was very bold I thought it was very thoughtful um and really the focus on the Strategic plan and and the uh the other elements of the budget uh will go a long way I know Amy and the team took copious notes so I again I thank you for that it was I thought it was very very good and very inspiring again it goes a long way to providing continuous transparency into the process that we've been striving to do uh these past couple years and so I just thank you for that uh Madam chair I have just two items that I would ask for board action on the first is related to the clerk of the court we uh we have an auditing agreement with car Rigs and Ingram CRI you may hear them referred to um and that agreement is dated September

20th 2022 that auditing agreement operates by us signing engagement letters each year with CRI and so every year they need a new engagement letter to be signed so they can go forward and and and perform our audits um in the past uh that was uh delegated um to the County Administrator to to execute that but we only did it for that one year so what I would like for the board to do is request that under this current contract that if you could delegate uh to the County Administrator authority to sign these and all future engagement letters under the agreement with CRI dated September 20th 2022 so we can get these uh get these audits underway and and meet the timelines required you're talking about the comprehensive can right audit yes sir thank you Harold so what we need a motion please take a motion we'll move second I'll in favor I thank you board appreciate that uh the other the other motion is you'll know no that on the consent agenda today item C3 was withdrawn uh that is for the award of the construction for fire station number two I was informed that the reason that was withdrawn is because we didn't have a budget amendment in place given the criticality of getting fire stations online as quick as possible and Alignment I'd prefer to go ahead and make that award once we get that budget uh get the mechanics of the uh of the budget amendment finalized this week and then I can go ahead and sign go ahead and sign that agreement so we can move forward with it otherwise we'll have to wait till the next board meeting Madam chair uh discussion first yeah Mike on that item we we had talked about trying to look at what we're doing as far as what we're putting in our fire stations are there some savings we can make and I don't recall us actually going through that um if there are some savings and I mean I've got contractors that have told me that the way we're set up these specialty things make only specialty contractors can do it drives up the cost Limited supply of people doing it so I wouldn't I would like to as I had said before to take a closer look at how we're spending our money if we can bring this number down to what it cost up for fire stations I think it's something we need to do I I think the fire station would build are awesome but if we can save money especially at this point in time where the go bonds are tapped out I think it's something we need to go take a look at and and I like I said I I've have as asked for this and I've heard I think I've heard support from the board to well to to dig into this try to save money okay yeah I think we've made some efforts there I'll let assist County Administrator Murphy speak to that hey commissioner I just wanted to inform you we did meet uh the the fire leadership sat down with Eric Steam and facilities and the most cost effective thing would be that be doing it at the 26 primary or general right would be the time that you'd go out well we'll we'll have a discussion on that and see where how the

boards what the board's pleasure is to move forward Madam chair yeah just one thing as far as the budget goes I want everyone just remember the chart that uh we we saw earlier today when it comes down to the funding we're at 28 out of 67 for average total property tax millage rates we're at 30th on per capita government property tax levs on per capita taxable value we're at 20 at 42 I think that one we're climbing up quickly hopefully so what I'm just trying to say is I'm tired of of seing responses with the Sheriff's Office saying we're ranked 62 or 61 out of 67 for the number of deputies we got when I look at the way we fund things once he's got his budget it goes on but clearly we're not out of much of a a bad range with what we're doing between collecting or spending so uh I think it is is a good discussion to have so we need to be clear as far as what what's going on transparent okay okay anything more for you nope that's it pass okay um so I'll give my report real quick on the um tourism Council basically I'll just summarize this saying our our numbers are up um it's nice because we went down a little bit for example um our tourist tax collection uh increased um 76% so that's that's a nice little bump um we had our Florida seniors uh that Senior Games return we had the Tampa Bay Christmas Invitational back for the fifth year in a row and I I know I've met with um so Davin sugs who's at um faac his wife is the chair of the Florida Foundation Sports foundation and she loves having events in Pasco County so we're very lucky there have great relationship um and um we had a uh group of renowned travel Riders at the Kumquat Festival in Dade City this year so it will be fun to see those stories um come out on the Kumquat Festival Madam chair on on the senior games uh I finished third out of 24 in my flight get out of here you participated in the in the golf that's tell they ran a great show oh you know huh this is your golf game yeah did you like that golf meeting yesterday yeah yeah that was interesting we may have some fun things to talk about golf in the future we'll see how that moves forward okay so photos um I also attended the Pasco economic forecast lunch in I came in just in time because I was chairing the tourism Development Council but um that was a interesting update and good to see a a soldout room again um so uh as some of you might remember I started a number of years ago the um South Harbor's leadership council meeting which are by HOA coas Civic associations um in the um Western South western part of Pasco County and um they're very well received I you you guys may want to do this in your your areas yours is a little different um but uh I started one for the Trinity Odessa area so we had quite a turnout um so these are all people who represent different HOAs and CDD districts within Trinity and Odessa and um we had a great

presentation um we started off let me think if I can remember who we started off with do um he was here he gave a great update in the area on what's going on on uh with Dot and 54 and 19 and the Sun Coast um and the the uh folks there had great questions on traffic signalization and and brought up safety concerns on certain intersections so they were so happy to have this form to talk to dot then we had um uh traffic Ops and then we had um Nick Anin um talking about all things with engineering and and Roads and and then um we finished with public works and they brought a whole team but it was a just a really really good meeting and I'm really grateful to uh all the staff that came I I got lots of compliments and emails afterwards from the different neighborhoods saying how much they appreciated getting all that information about County um last um no not last next um so I uh am honored to have been honored with being called um being I don't know what the word is i' I've been awarded one of these women of Distinction uh Awards um it was very nice that commissioner Morman and commissioner oh what's her name from um pelis County who's retired now um I'm drawn a blank on her name they both came to this event um because they had in the past been women of Distinction uh so they came to the event uh because I I was there and there will be a lunch in on March 12th and we'll have information if anyone wants to go um but uh it's really nice when Pasco gets recognized because we usually are look are passed over um and this is uh put on by the Girl Scouts of West Central Florida so I want to thank them for honoring honoring me in Pasco County um I attended the Tri County Workshop um I thought I thought it was really good um and I mentioned to you already about the opioid discussion and I thought we really shown uh brightly when they said we're thinking about doing this and we're going to ask about doing that and we said and we have done this so that was that was really good um what what was really great to hear too was the um the Commissioners from hillsbor I was a little worried there on that new one from pelis County for a second uh about our regional efforts on um mass transit you know a Transit solution and I thought it was really positive discussion I don't know if if Jack if you want to add add to it but I thought we really moved the ball forward I think we did the the only problem I had with the whole meeting was having to take a picture standing up next to Seth he's like a foot over for everybody I was talking about he don't let it for you I was whispering sweet nothings in his ear about his wonderful golf game Seth everyone there's in a tie but you oh no no no Josh is not in a tie neither is not yeah you're right you're right okay L Val's notar is all I'm going to take that back Jack's in a tie no ministrators are in a tie commissioner BS isn't in the tie Madam Cher the next one is May 2nd and that will be here in Pasco County so

where are we going to do it we are we are working on that so any input you want to provide you can provide for Jo and we'll I want to look at the old Target building where santand there is yes santandare either in that it could be in that Atrium between the two or in that building somewhere I know it's an empty building but it's a great location for all of them to get to and it and it's big enough so if that guy is willing it's got great um electronic you know setup in there so it's a thought okay any feedback just provide in because we have also invited the Tampa City Council to come to that meeting yeah I have one thing I forgot earlier okay but wait but let us finish this discussion for a second so we we've invited the Tampa City Council and if we put it too far into the county I don't think we'll get them okay so what did you guys talk about the Tampa City count did you administrators talk about that well we think it's um there's a degree of difficulty that will will come with that but um you know we're we're up for the challenge if if the respective boards want that it'll be fun we did say that we wanted it at the meeting who was there you Seth yeah Jack the bigger I heard Mayors at the meeting versus councils but oh what well see the the mayor doesn't control her council members and it's her council member especially one who's keeps trying to derail everything what do you think let's try mayor first all right try mayor the other the other the other the other issue is is what which cities right so we discussed Tampa and St Pete and of course don't forget pelis has about 24 other municipalities just the ones that are were tbarta cities and this is about moving forward with the brt okay I'll take that back and have that discussion with with the other administrators and I was supposed to go speak on that in Hillsboro County tomorrow morning uh on the grant that Hillsboro their their no they call it a TPO received to study the different ways to I guess is to kind of merge our mpos and there was a big announcement coming yesterday but they've canceled it I don't know if they canel it they said because they couldn't get everyone together it might be because the grants down on hold so um maybe you know who knows what where that is so anyway I won't be at that meeting tomorrow you know Madam chair if something that could come out of this meeting that might be good that you just kind of like made me think a little bit the with with President Trump now in office he hates a bureaucratic mess so sitting all those years in the TMA when we finally get CSX to come to the table where they given us to run run the line from Brooksville down through Tampa and now Tampa's taking over the conag site so it can go right to the hard of Tampa and the other site running from molar that would go all the way around uh up to the new bridge I mean maybe this is something we need to do federally coming up because if Trump can say CSX get it together if

you're not using something we're going to take it back let's something might work let's huddle on that one about going to Washington and talk getting getting that discussion going about a big impediment yeah yeah um so one of the topics that we agreed that we would talk about the next time was um how the different counties were going to use their HUD money you know that cu each one of these counties got hundreds of millions of dollars but we'll have to see what happens with that yeah those action plans are due um I think mid to late April so April 15th yeah the timing tax day maybe right we'll we'll we'll have the discussion all right so okay enough on that one unless anyone there was any other discussion that you thought worthy to tell the Commissioners that weren't here didn't we talk about oh yeah Tampa Bay water made a presentation um all right um I donated from some of my leftover um money five Cricut machines to the um the cultural center cuz I um crickets are kind of computerized cutting uh cutting cutting machines you can cut metal paper fabric wood and um and I I got them to do a class and when I went I went to I didn't get to participate in the class I have two crickets and I love it um I when I went to the class the instructor had one and no nobody in the class had one so they were all just watching so it was it's like this isn't what it was meant to be and they said well we don't have any crickets so I donated five four of them are just regular ones and one's a super duper one and and some other equipment there so um so hopefully we'll be seeing more classes there and you know what this there's a lot of women who have businesses on Etsy from their crickets and you know who had one John Gallagher's former s Mary do you remember Mary not Mary and um she worked for shreder did she work for you for a little bit Mary she stared for me that's when I hired uh Marie yeah she came and took Mary because Mary had a business doing great on on Etsy so she retired and went off on her on her business so anyway that was fun to donate that um then last Thursday we had our 11th annual manufacturing dinner in uh amskills 10y year anniversary thank you commissioner Mariano and Mike carala was there some other County people were there um David Engle David Engel was there we had our utilities team which had been recipients of a lot of those graduates yeah and I thought Mitchell the one that went to Germany was going to come up and speak but um it was a soldout room um and I only wish we had had donor cards on the table because that lady who spoke about Maddy's movement uh who lost her daughter in the car accident and now works with foster kids was uh a great speaker and um we we now um work with foster kids at am skill so uh thank you all and more more great things to come from M skills um did the mofet site tour we all T talked about that gave my tour tourism updates um let's see um you mentioned human trafficking and I just wanted you to know at amskills we have started a um a class for trafficed women and uh the

center pieces at the amskills dinner were made by them and when Moffet came and visited us a couple weeks ago and they heard what they were doing they hired them to make centerpieces for an event they're doing so um they come once a week and uh and one of them is actually uh going to has the courage now to go she's attending our next boot camp that starts next week nice so that and that group of women is called created class yes something with trafficking other counties do this is uh they require depending on the vendor and a procurement the vendor to have a human trafficking course no it goes through certain employees and then their employes train their employees that are out and about that's good um and it seems to be pretty successful see Tampa Hillsboro it's a little bit more cumbersome on the you know the person who's procured but I mean it's a proactive ability it's you want to do business with the county we're working on this hey you want to be a vendor here it it might be something worth doing so it's a it's a good point so the timing I actually I I had a meeting with our senior directors last week and we had members of the human trafficking uh group come out and speak and you know I've mandated that all of our employees take that course um or a course or something similar for awareness I'll I'll discuss with with purchasing to see what you know what kind of training that can be extended to vendors again we we we leverage them I look at them as extensions of Staff right and so let me let me let's have the conversation obviously I don't want to get into contracts and that kind of stuff but you know right now is a just as being a person and being on the lookout for that type of stuff um I I think there's Merit to that okay and so I've I've told you all I've asked our staff to um test the Odessa Lakes for contamination I'm very interested to see what that's going to show um Mike and I participated in a no housing discussion and we're going to go for that Grant right it was uh very enlightening and they have some money um for counties that are over 500,000 it's competitive um but we think we fit the bill perfectly um and lastly well two things please Mike don't forget about Swift Mud and uh starky Ranch and The Preserve I need to get answers on those things yep I actually wrote that down today okay and um so there was something there's something floating in the Water behind my house at a at uh Gul Harbor's we think it could be someone's dock or something and who's responsible for that who do we something from the storm I think we it's not a boat it's something that's going to hurt somebody Marine Patrol why is that funny I mean it's dangerous it's a hazard in navigation is that us or Co or we can make a phone call I don't know I we have I have no idea who to call is it still there or did it FL away well it was there Sunday morning but it's been making the rounds in that area where a lot of flats fishing folks go and um I don't know what it

reasons I think is just being us able to hire our local people because we had so many local businesses that get out there and get to work and they worked so hard so strong all the way through to get that done so as far as like getting it done when you get the local heart people that that really care about the community what they did and they did a great job every step of the way clean and and proud of the neighborhoods I mean those guys uh we we we're lucky to have them all and the money stays in Pasco County great thing yes and you know if in in in that regard that Kevin didn't get picked if that does change and the and the um focus goes back to the state level it's really good to have Kevin in Tallahassee so all things happen for a reason and maybe that's going to be a really good Plus for us um reminder about no and our legislative conference in the end of February so I'm hoping that we'll have a good contingency Ralph you're working on our stuff okay and um you know we've got friends in the white house now so maybe we get a little special White House invite and Madam chair it might be good for us to take a look if we can extend our stay a little bit so we're not right in the midst of everything that's going on because that that big Forum that they have is phenomenal for to touch all the federal agencies but I think if we can work to a day or two that we can get some appointments with our electeds or with you know we got balloted up there as well so somehow coordinating with them to make these things happen I think it'll go a long way okay well I can I I was going home that last night but I can stay another day okay um if if we have some you know good good things going on um I'm going to try and get attorney general Bondi to speak to the Republican Club at no um I just have to get that that date but I'm going to try and get it get her to come speak to us awesome okay okay am I allowed to say that up here yeah you can did I take it all back she's elected oh she's appoint [Music]